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Seshmeister
01-30-2012, 01:26 PM

Va Beach VH Fan
01-30-2012, 03:38 PM
This one won't get taken down....

JJtheVagPounder
01-30-2012, 03:52 PM
Awesome. Love it. Let me go ahead and speak for he who will not be named: "Secretly I want a Van Halen bukkake show on my chest." We know you do. We know.

hain23x
01-31-2012, 01:02 PM
Really sounds like a true Van Halen boogie

CharleeO
01-31-2012, 01:20 PM
Love the Women and Children feel here...

Jagermeister
01-31-2012, 01:39 PM
That's fuckin kick ass!

Actually has more of a Hot for Teacher vibe I think.

Little Texan
01-31-2012, 08:31 PM
That's fuckin kick ass!

Actually has more of a Hot for Teacher vibe I think.

Exactly what I was thinking. To me, it's like a HFT/It's Showtime hybrid...same kind of song. Blood and Fire was my favorite tune until I heard this.

Momshell
01-31-2012, 09:56 PM
"I've been rich and I've been poor - rich is better, totally better!!"
Love that line.
Awesome song - Dave sounds amazing!

fourthcoming
01-31-2012, 09:59 PM
Sinners Swing 2012.....tune is rippin'....and that's without hearing the solo and the bridge!!!

if6was9
02-01-2012, 12:35 PM
I've heard the brigde and I think it'll be the best track from the album. A true masterpiece.

slowhand
02-02-2012, 09:39 AM
This song reminds me so much of Slam Dunk! off of DLR Band, with the break where Dave talks and everything. It also has a little bit of the vibe from Lose the Dress if it were sped up. I'm hearing a few other songs off that album in there as well. I love it.

Seshmeister
02-02-2012, 01:29 PM
Wow this song is awesome!

The solo brings up a conundrum.

If George Lynch steals Eddies technique and sticks it in the solo of 'Tooth and Nail' and then 25 years later Eddie comes back and uses that solo who is in the right? :D

if6was9
02-04-2012, 09:18 AM
LA LA LA LA LA ??????

Dave is completely crazy. I love him!!!

slimdon
02-04-2012, 10:17 AM
This song slapped me stupid upon first listen all the way thru. I barely shook it off. The heavy weight champs literally delivered the knock out punch with this one. This song in itself exorcised the sammy years from my psychee. God bless you VH!

Big Fat Sammy
02-05-2012, 03:22 AM
"Everyday down here's a rainy day... WE DON'T SAVE UP".

Tell me that ain't on the level of Fair Warning era badassness.

Momshell
02-05-2012, 10:58 AM
Ain't no Brink's truck following no hearse!!

VanHalener
02-06-2012, 09:23 PM
Another random post while I piss off my neighbors...

Holy shit....

Van Halen is so on the money with their Rock & Roll assault.

Damn dude....

diamondclaudio
02-07-2012, 12:03 AM
pLEEZE POST THE FUCKING LYRICS LOL

Terry
02-09-2012, 11:10 PM
the beginning of the tune is heavy as fuck

Eyes of the Night
02-09-2012, 11:48 PM
Best Song on the album *I* think ...

WildTurkey
02-11-2012, 01:13 AM
The main riff in this song made me think back to the jam with Tony Levin & Jam Hammer that Eddie did for a Les Paul tribute back in '88. If you start at about 1:55, that's where it begins roughly. This validates the HFT comparison too, because he went right from HFT into this. Not the same note for note, obviously, but it seems to me that this is the stem cell this riff sprung from...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1VOcZ280vA

if6was9
02-11-2012, 10:29 AM
Best Song on the album *I* think ...

Absolutely. Except for Eddie's interlude, which is so-so.

Golden AWe
02-11-2012, 06:36 PM
A decent song, but not one of my favorites. A bit average CUNTPARED to some of the more creative ones on the disc. Still a decent song.

ODShowtime
02-12-2012, 11:22 AM
In my opinion this is another of the best ones. Only one with with a real de-tuned chunk-a-brown funk goin' on. And then the trippy fade out? There's nothing better than a trippy fade out. God damn I am loving the middle of this album. This really is what we've all been waiting for.

TwoFoolsAMinute
02-16-2012, 01:22 AM
Anyone catch that rothsqueal at :41?

fourthcoming
02-16-2012, 08:43 AM
My favorite tune on the album.....easily could have been on Fair Warning. Ed's riffs during "Love the craft, Love the buck" sound so much like Fair Warning tones.

Zing!
02-16-2012, 08:50 AM
"Everyday down here's a rainy day... WE DON'T SAVE UP".

Tell me that ain't on the level of Fair Warning era badassness.

Yup - I think that every time I hear that line. It almost seems like a lost lyric from Mean Street. No matter what song I pick from ADKOT as my favorite, it will always be tied with 'As Is.' And I love love love the trippy fade-out. Usually not a big fan of them, but when done right, they can give you chills. VH and Shanks nailed this one. Perfect!

Eyes of the Night
02-16-2012, 11:31 PM
What the hell is Al saying? 1234 ???? ...

ODShowtime
02-16-2012, 11:56 PM
I do very much wish that dumb count out in the beginning was cut off. It should just start with the drums.

SNIPER
02-17-2012, 12:10 AM
I do very much wish that dumb count out in the beginning was cut off. It should just start with the drums.

I dunno, I kind of like it. Its got the VH good times party humor to me.

SNIPER
02-17-2012, 12:14 AM
I kind of hear a bit of that Two And A Half Men riff in this tune. This one just might be my most listened to track on the cd. The other day I listened to it about 8 times in a row in the dark with my good headphones..

SNIPER
02-17-2012, 12:18 AM
I think Dave sounds just as good as any 6 pack albums. Sounds like Dave to me. I visited the 1984 CD today and Dave sounds the same to me. That album is so tame compared to ADKOT.

Eyes of the Night
02-17-2012, 12:20 AM
I kind of hear a bit of that Two And A Half Men riff in this tune.

Trippy! I thought nobody would get that ... when I saw that episode I knew that riff was a new song;) ... you would think he'd be tapping but it's all based of the A chord?

As Is is now second to She's the Woman ...

ashstralia
02-17-2012, 12:25 AM
been driving around crankin it like i'm 17 again... awesome days.

78/84 guy
02-17-2012, 09:33 PM
I think this is a a top 10 ten VH song !!! Great playing. Lots going on. I wish more of the other song's took on this kind of direction. HoneyBaby does, and Beats Working also has some cool changes in it.

Zing!
02-17-2012, 09:38 PM
There will be a long standing debate for years to come as to how, exactly, ADKOT stacks up with the 6-pack. But I think we can all agree, can we not, that 'As Is' ranks right up there as one of the greatest =VH= tunes of all time? There simply cannot be any debate about that if you've done your VH homework. The tune simply fucking rocks that much. Am I wrong on this?

So this is love
02-17-2012, 09:49 PM
There will be a long standing debate for years to come as to how, exactly, ADKOT stacks up with the 6-pack. But I think we can all agree, can we not, that 'As Is' ranks right up there as one of the greatest =VH= tunes of all time? There simply cannot be any debate about that if you've done your VH homework. The tune simply fucking rocks that much. Am I wrong on ts?

As for me, my homework are not finished, and to answer your question it also depends which VH tunes for you are the greatest....??? and yes its a great tune.

78/84 guy
02-18-2012, 12:56 AM
There will be a long standing debate for years to come as to how, exactly, ADKOT stacks up with the 6-pack. But I think we can all agree, can we not, that 'As Is' ranks right up there as one of the greatest =VH= tunes of all time? There simply cannot be any debate about that if you've done your VH homework. The tune simply fucking rocks that much. Am I wrong on this?

I said it right above you. Unchained, Mean Streets & Teacher are just to high of a bar to top for me but I have no problem putting this right below them along with HoneyBaby & Chinatown. I only had to hear them once. You And Your Blues is real close also.

Terry
02-20-2012, 09:18 PM
A decent song, but not one of my favorites. A bit average CUNTPARED to some of the more creative ones on the disc. Still a decent song.

Heavy intro, but for some reason I'm not spinning this tune nearly as much as the others on the album.

Romeo Delight
02-20-2012, 09:21 PM
For me, the second half of the song is just about the best thing on this disk.

ELVIS
02-20-2012, 10:37 PM
I think we can all agree, can we not, that 'As Is' ranks right up there as one of the greatest =VH= tunes of all time? There simply cannot be any debate about that if you've done your VH homework. The tune simply fucking rocks that much. Am I wrong on this?

No, I agree with that...

It has all the right ingredients...


:elvis:

ashstralia
02-21-2012, 05:51 AM
a different favourite song every day.
la la la la; la la la laaaa...

ODShowtime
02-21-2012, 07:43 AM
I put this, Chinatown, Honeybaby, and Stay Frosty up there all together at the top of this album. Pretty much all the new songs FUCKIN RULE.

Zing!
02-22-2012, 06:24 PM
No, I agree with that...

It has all the right ingredients...


Figures you'd agree with me when I'm drunker than Billy Joel. Don't even recall typing that about 'As Is', but still true. Now to type something relevant while sober...

Polk High
02-22-2012, 09:52 PM
I love this song, I think it is my favorite on the new album.

Big Fat Sammy
02-24-2012, 03:45 AM
Edward during his "rough years" playing As Is. Glad he remembered it!

Satan
02-24-2012, 05:13 AM
Unholy shit, that is still painful to watch. I remember thinking it would only be a matter of days before Eddie became a permanent resident down here, the first time I saw that footage.

Thank all that is unholy that he came back from that!

fryingdutchman
02-24-2012, 06:00 AM
Unholy shit, that is still painful to watch. I remember thinking it would only be a matter of days before Eddie became a permanent resident down here, the first time I saw that footage.

Thank all that is unholy that he came back from that!

Yeah...definitely a snapshot in time best forgotten.

So glad that he corrected his course...

fryingdutchman
02-24-2012, 06:41 AM
Edward during his "rough years" playing As Is. Glad he remembered it!



Considering that groove turned out to be "As Is", does anybody else see the irony that the first line of that song ended up being "Yesterday I was a bum and broke..."

I'm sure Ed wasn't broke with all of the endorsement money coming in, but he sure had the "bum" part down pat....

DLR Bridge
02-24-2012, 06:44 AM
"and I love you.... That's why I don't have anything new right now." Best line.

ELVIS
02-24-2012, 07:46 AM
Nice pants,,,

sadaist
02-24-2012, 08:32 AM
Edward during his "rough years" playing As Is. Glad he remembered it!




Oh, he remembered it after he sobered.

fryingdutchman
02-24-2012, 09:28 AM
Oh, he remembered it after he sobered.




Damn...I remembered the 2 1/2 Men appearance, but I forgot he played that riff....

Mikk555
02-24-2012, 11:15 AM
Sweet music to my ears..............AS IS as it is supposed to be!

sadaist
02-24-2012, 12:30 PM
Damn...I remembered the 2 1/2 Men appearance, but I forgot he played that riff....


Sure is fun how all of us together can piece together that craziest shit about this band. Someone should make a VAN HALEN EDITION of this....


http://www.ratedorhated.com/ratings/clue-board-game_b.jpg

ELVIS
02-24-2012, 01:15 PM
Unspoiled by progress...

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRHo0TiK5XzM2lgWOebi5i4Dvq0suz_l tTv8oqX89CPxWZQsw3PCrKqgktB

As is is how's I follow through...


:elvis:

ELVIS
02-24-2012, 01:25 PM
http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab41/OmarBrown/evh7.jpg


:elvis:

sadaist
02-24-2012, 01:44 PM
Unspoiled by progress...

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRHo0TiK5XzM2lgWOebi5i4Dvq0suz_l tTv8oqX89CPxWZQsw3PCrKqgktB

As is is how's I follow through...


:elvis:


It's not who you scare the bejeezus out of.........


http://www.shitmydadsends.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Celebrity-lookalike-15.jpg

Big Fat Sammy
02-24-2012, 04:50 PM
"and I love you.... That's why I don't have anything new right now." Best line.

That's some honesty right there. Wondering if this was part of the music he came up with around the time of "Up for Breakfast" but SH had no idea what to do with it. Definitely a fav on this record I must say.

In another one of those clips he says "I'm trying to think, but when I to try to think...It don't work". I wonder why? :lmao: He's come a very long way.

private parts
02-24-2012, 05:15 PM
Sweet music to my ears..............AS IS as it is supposed to be!

I swear its like As Is would have been the 10th song on FW. I get a tingling feeling down my leg...oh shit wait....

fifth element
02-24-2012, 07:40 PM
Unholy shit, that is still painful to watch. I remember thinking it would only be a matter of days before Eddie became a permanent resident down here, the first time I saw that footage.

Thank all that is unholy that he came back from that!

Amen to that! :amen:

lol...

binnie
02-24-2012, 08:06 PM
The more I play the record, the more this one stands out to me - it's certainly not the best written song on the disc in the 'traditional' sense of the word, but it's free-form jam feel really kicks it up a gear....

Zing!
02-24-2012, 08:34 PM
Pretty amazing that out of his skull Ed could even play what he did of that riff 18 sheets to the wind at NAMM. Damn glad he remembered it!

KSTONER
03-13-2012, 11:47 AM
Lately this one and Honeybabysweetiedoll have been battling for me "favorite" slot on the album. Currently As Is has the lead.

Seshmeister
03-13-2012, 11:57 AM
Strange tuning on this, is Ed using a string off a bass for the low E tuning it way down to B or something?

DLR Bridge
03-13-2012, 12:12 PM
Same thing he did for, gulp, Good Enougghhraaalllfff.

78/84 guy
03-17-2012, 12:53 PM
Still my favorite song along with HoneyBaby. The music kicks ass. The whole album is strong really. I thought I would get sick but can't.

VanHalener
04-06-2012, 04:24 PM
This song has been kicking ass at this location off and on allllll day.

I'm telling ya...
Kicking ASS!

chi-town324
04-06-2012, 07:28 PM
u gotta love the hat ED is wearing...worn like a true wino....it is still pretty hard to watch

vandeleur
04-06-2012, 07:34 PM
man rough years dont seem to capture it ...... some of the 2004 live footage i thought he was dead pool material

ODShowtime
04-12-2012, 09:33 PM
Man this one is a classic. Classic Van Halen.

vandeleur
04-27-2012, 12:43 PM
right as is is todays fav tune off the cd ...... but has any one else noted how much dave sounds like a weird charlton heston on the speaing part . ???

DLR Bridge
04-27-2012, 12:59 PM
right as is is todays fav tune off the cd ...... but has any one else noted how much dave sounds like a weird charlton heston on the speaking part . ???

Good call! Especially right around the "...but who reTURNS once aGAIN to squeeze YOU no DOUBT!"

vandeleur
04-27-2012, 01:07 PM
Yeah that's the bit ...

Terry
06-17-2012, 10:14 PM
Have been giving this song particular attention as of late, and must say it is growing on me. Much more than the first few initial listens.

Angel
06-18-2012, 01:22 AM
I freaking love it. Tied with Honeybaby... for my fave off the album.

SNIPER
06-18-2012, 01:30 AM
I freaking love it. Tied with Honeybaby... for my fave off the album.

Yup, both those are on top of my list even back when we only had the sample clips.

fourthcoming
06-18-2012, 08:39 AM
Not just the best tune on the new album, but one of their best tunes period.

Seshmeister
06-19-2012, 07:50 AM
Straw poll at the weekend of 3 fans here and we all thought this is the best song on the album.

Dave's Bitch
06-19-2012, 08:06 AM
Some heavy ass face melting guitar on this one

ThrillsNSpills
06-19-2012, 12:30 PM
As Is is an instant classic that continues to grow on you.

jhale667
06-19-2012, 01:20 PM
It's one of the best songs they've ever written, IMO.

ELVIS
06-19-2012, 11:38 PM
It's up there with the best, for sure...

Angel
06-20-2012, 12:43 AM
The day the album came out I pulled into a parking spot at the University, music blaring, window unrolled. As Is ended just as I turned the car off. I let a loud "holy fuck!!!" just as a couple of kids walked by. They walked away laughing at the weird old lady rocking out. :D

SNIPER
06-20-2012, 12:50 AM
I drove around town and cranked it for 4 hours. It ranks right up there with the first time I heard FW.

chuckjitsu
06-20-2012, 12:07 PM
Man, what a great tune! When I heard it all the way through for the first time and I heard Ed's pick scrape/slide right before the solo I remember thinking to myself "Uh oh- here we go!!" and I just laughed and shook my head at the awesomeness as Ed smoked through the solo. And the "this part should really confuse things everybody let's stay focused" line is one of my favorite Dave lines on the album.

From what I've read, sounds like Ed had the music for this before the 2004 greatest hits album came out, so thank goodness it wasn't used on that. I don't know how anybody else around here feels about it, but I actually like the music part of Up for Breakfast. The lyrics are garbage, particularly the fruit fetish ones (honeydew my manboobs and cherries on my banana), but i wonder what Dave could've done with that music.

78/84 guy
06-30-2012, 07:41 PM
This song is scary good ! I hope Japan gets to hear it !

ELVIS
06-30-2012, 07:45 PM
They wouldn't get it...

78/84 guy
06-30-2012, 07:52 PM
They wouldn't get it...

True ! I think that's why Dave hasn't sung it here yet. To much going on !

VanHalener
07-01-2012, 03:20 AM
Bullshit!
Don't shortchange the Japanese rockers.
Godzilla is about to return to Japan, and those Motrhafookers are going to show you how the Empire of Japan
Gets
The
Fook
D
O
W
N
J
A
C
K
!

minkahed
07-05-2012, 03:45 PM
"As Is" could possibly the best song on the cd, it's that good.

I sing the shit outta this song at work everyday and I even got the young 20 somethings saying, "As Is" ! LOL

In time, this song will rank amongst the greatest of all Van Hale tunes, trust me, you heard it from me first.

And Dave's scream at the beginning, did he sample that or what ? He hasn't had that scream in nearly 25 years.

Fuckin' classic ...

minkahed
07-05-2012, 03:46 PM
Sorry for the double post.

ELVIS
07-06-2012, 12:16 PM
Too bad you can hardly hear any Bass in this song...

ROTHisGOD
07-06-2012, 04:14 PM
Dave's scream to begin the song is a vicious tease to what used to be....

ELVIS
07-06-2012, 08:01 PM
The future aint what it used to be...


:elvis:

Yount
07-21-2012, 09:55 PM
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah :boom:

Romeo Delight
08-24-2012, 04:31 PM
For me, the second half of the song is just about the best thing on this disk.

Kind of weird to quote yourself, but after listening to this album over and over, I still think the last third or so of this song is the best thing by far. I wish this song would never end.

At0micPunk
08-26-2012, 06:52 PM
I love the whole CD but As Is is my favorite tune by far. It's phenomenal and shows the unfiltered magic of what the sweat bros and DLR have together. The one two punch of As Is and HBSD still blows me away. I expected cool stuff from VH in 2012 but wow.

Romeo Delight
08-26-2012, 09:26 PM
Couldn't agree more

Yount
09-27-2012, 11:53 AM
how i roll

sadaist
09-27-2012, 12:13 PM
I love the whole CD but As Is is my favorite tune by far. It's phenomenal and shows the unfiltered magic of what the sweat bros and DLR have together. The one two punch of As Is and HBSD still blows me away. I expected cool stuff from VH in 2012 but wow.



As Is ...fucking still mindblowing after 11,327 listens. When the first fast guitar comes in and then Dave screams like young Dave......I get goosebumps every time. STILL. Crazy.

Really should have been the 1st single with a better video than tattoo. If the world had been fed As Is with a video in the style of Panama....wow.

ThrillsNSpills
09-27-2012, 12:20 PM
As Is has the galloping Alex drum part, Ed hammering all over the neck and Dave's melody and humor.

It hits on all levels.

if6was9
07-02-2013, 12:17 PM
Oh shit, I've just realised why I liked "As Is" so much.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2CRtdrIMQE

sadaist
07-02-2013, 12:52 PM
Yeah. Sinners Swing is exactly like another AC/DC tune as well. Funny how 2 rock bands can use very similar chords & progrssion in a song yet still sound different & unique to themselves. Just shows how great both VH & AC/DC are. Wow what a great double headliner that would be. Other than Donnington have they ever played together?

chefcraig
07-02-2013, 12:58 PM
Yeah. Sinners Swing is exactly like another AC/DC tune as well. Funny how 2 rock bands can use very similar chords & progrssion in a song yet still sound different & unique to themselves. Just shows how great both VH & AC/DC are.

Yeah, but they both stole the progression and pauses from Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac, on the tune "Oh, Well."

sadaist
07-02-2013, 01:40 PM
Yeah, but they both stole the progression and pauses from Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac, on the tune "Oh, Well."



Most good music is just thievery mixed with innovation. Everything can be traced to something that came before it. As long as a band can make a sound that is unique to them & instantly recognizable as them I'm ok with that. ANY VH song you can tell it's Eddie. Same with Angus. You would have to raise a child without allowing them to hear any music ever if you wanted them to create truly original music. And without ever hearing anything to determine the difference between win & fail the chances of it being anything good are slim as fuck.


And honestly, what makes As Is so good is Dave anywhow. :)

GreenBayLA
07-02-2013, 03:30 PM
What the hell is Al saying? 1234 ???? ...

Listen close (but not too close), it's 1234 Fu(k Sam Hagar! :bigwink:

VHscraps
07-02-2013, 05:27 PM
Yeah, but they both stole the progression and pauses from Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac, on the tune "Oh, Well."

Jeez! I have listened to 'Oh Well' a million times (and the AC/DC tune was never off my turntable back in those days) and I never made the link, but yeah - there's a definite "family resemblance" there.

I would just take this opportunity to say that if anyone is unfamiliar with the original Fleetwood Mac, this (below), Greatest Hits (1971) is a great fucking guitar album - a collection of their UK hits in that late 60s era. While they had global success with the 70s incarnation of the band, in the UK the Peter Green version of the band at its peak in the late 60s was more successful than the Beatles and the Stones ... and everyone else.

Included on this are also 'Green Manalishi' (covered by Judas Priest), 'Black Magic Woman' (covered by Santana), 'Rattlesnake Shake' (Aerosmith claimed it as a big influence, and played it live), 'Albatross' (their huge instrumental hit), 'Need Your Love So Bad' (which made BB King say that Peter Green was the only other guitarist who gave him chills), and 'Man of the World' (you can just hear that as the beginning of Peter Green breaking down - what a fucking song).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26H6uQeI1w0

VHscraps
07-02-2013, 05:39 PM
Actually - that isn't the album it purports to be ...!