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Sarge
02-26-2012, 09:35 PM
I am digging the Block inlays. My only concern is how can I play hard Rock with this bad boy?

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Sarge
02-26-2012, 09:36 PM
I don't mind Jazz/Jag trems. i like them better than Strat trems..

ELVIS
02-26-2012, 10:22 PM
I don't mind Jazz/Jag trems. i like them better than Strat trems..

No way dude...

Sarge
02-26-2012, 10:24 PM
No way dude...
Here is my Crook

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The Trem with the Mastery Bridge works flawless...
I do like Strat Trems.. but if you have the Jazz setup properly it will work really nice!

ashstralia
02-26-2012, 10:27 PM
i nearly bought a jagstang 12 or so years ago... still kicking myself.

ELVIS
02-26-2012, 11:09 PM
That blue paisley finish is really really really awesome...

Nitro Express
02-27-2012, 12:51 AM
I don't mind Jazz/Jag trems. i like them better than Strat trems..

Good for surf music.

Matt White
02-27-2012, 11:24 AM
I'm thinking aboot getting a Jazzmaster type guitar........

I dig the new FENDER hybrid Jags & Jazzmasters....but I have a problem paying that kind of scratch for guitars that were "Student models" when they were originally made...

Or those SONIC YOUTH sig models....Thurston Moore & Cobain bought 'em because you could get Jags & Mustangs & Jazz Masteers dirt cheap back in the day....Moores sig model runs sumthin like $1400! Silly!

I'm looking at knockoff cheap-0 alternatives........

ThrillsNSpills
02-27-2012, 11:58 AM
Funny how we have differences of opinion on everything under the sun but one thing for sure is we all love Fender equipment!

ZahZoo
02-27-2012, 12:19 PM
Speaking of student models... I have a 1964 Fender Duo Sonic I'm preparing to refinish/restore. I'll post some pics soon as I get going with the project...

It's an early 64 model before they introduced the Duo Sonic II which was a non-tremolo spin-off of the Mustang. Mine's a true student model 3/4 size with a 22.5" neck scale. The guy I bought it from in 79 had stripped the original Olympic White finish off and varathained it natural. He also installed this ugly fat brass tune-o-matic bridge system on it and didn't get the scale length correct. I figured out an odd set-up to get the intonation close and gigged with it for about 5 years.

Found an original 64 Duo Sonic bridge on e-bay last week and thought I had it made for about $20... last 2 hours some jackasses bid it up over $75 so I had to bail on that. Probably just go buy a new replacement bridge for the current Squire Vibe series Duo Sonics...

ELVIS
02-27-2012, 12:27 PM
Put a fuckin' Kahler and some nice after market pups on that bad boy and make it something worth playing...

It'll never be worth much not being original paint anyway...

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:elvis:

Matt White
02-27-2012, 01:19 PM
http://www.guitarfetish.com/assets/images/JT100IV_A.jpg

Nitro Express
02-27-2012, 05:22 PM
[QUOTE=Matt White;1622349]I'm thinking aboot getting a Jazzmaster type guitar........

I dig the new FENDER hybrid Jags & Jazzmasters....but I have a problem paying that kind of scratch for guitars that were "Student models" when they were originally made...

Or those SONIC YOUTH sig models....Thurston Moore & Cobain bought 'em because you could get Jags & Mustangs & Jazz Masteers dirt cheap back in the day....Moores sig model runs

sumthin like $1400! Silly! [QUOTE]/


Yup. In the 70's and 80's they were totally dated guitars nobody wanted. I mean come on, they were the guitars the guy on Lawrence Welk played. They went out with Brylcreem and big ugly black birth control glasses. Unless you looked like Elvis Costello, those guitars were about as relevant as a 59 Impalla or Edsel.

Matt White
02-27-2012, 05:27 PM
Yup. In the 70's and 80's they were totally dated guitars nobody wanted. I mean come on, they were the guitars the guy on Lawrence Welk played. They went out with Brylcreem and big ugly black birth control glasses. Unless you looked like Elvis Costello, those guitars were about as relevant as a 59 Impalla or Edsel.

I read that you could get a Jaguar or Mustang for $100.....which might be a bit of an stretch.....but still, they're gouging people on the fact the "famous" people played 'em in the Grunge/Alternative era......

Nitro Express
02-27-2012, 05:45 PM
Nobody wanted those guitars in the early 80's. Nobody wanted the old early 60's Fender amps either then. Everyone wanted Les Pauls and Marshalls. You could have a brown tolex or blonde tolex early 60's amp and a Jazzmaster for under $500 in a pawn shop score easy.

Matt White
02-27-2012, 09:34 PM
I am digging the Block inlays. My only concern is how can I play hard Rock with this bad boy?

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Now to the question Sarge.....

what if you swap the stock pickups for those YJM duncans? Stacked single coils in a Jag? RAD!!!!

ELVIS
02-27-2012, 09:44 PM
I never tried the YJM Duncans...

Got a drawer full of HS3s...

I don't know how the Duncan can be better...

Nitro Express
02-27-2012, 09:52 PM
Sammy got a drawer full of Duncan donuts.

Matt White
02-27-2012, 09:56 PM
I never tried the YJM Duncans...

Got a drawer full of HS3s...

I don't know how the Duncan can be better...

Same here King....

My '68 reissue Strat has the H-3 in the bridge & the YJM in the neck.....that neck pickup is beyond awesome!

ELVIS
02-27-2012, 10:01 PM
I have read that the YMJ is a little brighter than an HS3 and better for the neck position...

But an HS3 is good in the neck, especially on a maple neck...

BTW, the old Fender TBX tone control sounds awesome with HS3s...

Nitro Express
02-27-2012, 10:05 PM
I got 68 reissues in my 72 Strat. They get that Hendrix vibe but I was playing by some fluorescent lights and all hell broke lose. The middle pickup isn't counter wound so if I get 60 cycle hum I'm fucked. In other words it's a real Strat.:biggrin:

ELVIS
02-27-2012, 10:09 PM
I have some Fralin Woodstocks in one guitar and I've been planning on putting them on ebay and going with HS3s...

The woodstocks are too plunky or something...

Nitro Express
02-27-2012, 10:19 PM
Woodstocks? Do they make you sound like Santana or Jerry Garcia on acid?

ELVIS
02-27-2012, 10:33 PM
No, Hendrix and they do the job...

I just don't like that plunky tone...

http://www.premierguitar.com/Stream/StreamImage.aspx?Image_ID=31699&type=gear&Image_Type=full


:elvis:

ashstralia
02-28-2012, 05:18 AM
Woodstocks? Do they make you sound like Santana or Jerry Garcia on acid?

or more uniquely, an amazing dissonant mixture of both...

Panamark
02-28-2012, 07:29 AM
"Plunky Tone"

Im trying to imagine that.... Early Chet Atkins ???
Along those lines E ?

Matt White
02-28-2012, 07:52 AM
Here's a video of the Xaviere JT-100.... http://bcove.me/zsumi3iw

debating....debating.......we'll see this Spring.....

*NOTE*

Its in the 2nd half of the video................

sadaist
02-28-2012, 08:53 AM
I am digging the Block inlays. My only concern is how can I play hard Rock with this bad boy?

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Always thought those were weird looking guitars. But guitars were made to be heard, not seen. Play loud enough & no one will care wtf it looks like Sarge.

Or you could always apply to The Revolution & play alongside Prince.


*I am digging the block inlays on the neck too.

ZahZoo
02-28-2012, 10:18 AM
Put a fuckin' Kahler and some nice after market pups on that bad boy and make it something worth playing...

It'll never be worth much not being original paint anyway...

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRZ0FnxgEakOUlHe2V1BbHhZq6Ei7ugu 89kw8t2gkFN3YgHbAKwhstYn4pVHw



:elvis:


I'm torn in too many directions on the bridge replacement... but I'm leaning heavily on staying close to stock. Newer modern bridges are more functional... but just don't look right on an old vintage beast, IMO.

The pickups had been replaced before I bought the guitar. The neck pickup came out of a '62 Strat and has that warm, beer and smoke soaked perfect Blues tone. I may replace the bridge pickup which is a late 70's Dimarrzio Distortion single coil which sounds good dirty but a little harsh clean. Hard part is finding something that blends well between the two... there's something about how the older pickups age and the magnets loose a bit of their juice.

ELVIS
02-28-2012, 11:23 AM
Matt will probably agree that the stacked humbucker "Yngwie" pickups, either the Dimarzio HS3, or possibly even better the new Duncan YMJ, will give you real vintage Fender tone...

The output on these are roughly the same as vintage Strat pickups and have great bell like clarity with zero hum...


:elvis:

Matt White
02-28-2012, 11:42 AM
Matt will probably agree that the stacked humbucker "Yngwie" pickups, either the Dimarzio HS3, or possibly even better the new Duncan YMJ, will give you real vintage Fender tone...

The output on these are roughly the same as vintage Strat pickups and have great bell like clarity with zero hum...

:elvis:

THe Dimarzio HS3 & YJM pickups are brilliant pickups....as The King said...zero "hum" and really "vintage" tone....not "hot" pickups by any standard....

THe new Duncan YJM, I've heard, is a "hotter" version of the Dimarzio pickup....and I haven't played a guitar with one yet to A-B the 2.............

THe YJM in the neck of my Strat is Loud & clear as a bell...I can see why Yngwie solos on that pickup so much....................

jhale667
02-28-2012, 12:02 PM
THe Dimarzio HS3 & YJM pickups are brilliant pickups....as The King said...zero "hum" and really "vintage" tone....not "hot" pickups by any standard....

THe new Duncan YJM, I've heard, is a "hotter" version of the Dimarzio pickup....and I haven't played a guitar with one yet to A-B the 2.............

THe YJM in the neck of my Strat is Loud & clear as a bell...I can see why Yngwie solos on that pickup so much....................


I used an HS-3 for years in neck position of the 1st incarnation of the Charvel mutt, they're very cool, but a little "blah" sounding IMO (unless you're going for the Yngwie neck position solo tone); they don't really cut it for say, SRV tones or way clucky Strat tones. I'm interested to try the YJM, or maybe the Vintage Hot Strat Stack.

Nitro Express
02-28-2012, 12:25 PM
Always thought those were weird looking guitars. But guitars were made to be heard, not seen. Play loud enough & no one will care wtf it looks like Sarge.

Or you could always apply to The Revolution & play alongside Prince.




*I am digging the block inlays on the neck too.
Look at the cars they were making at the time. The guitars reflect the funk. Lot's of chrome and wings.

ELVIS
02-28-2012, 12:50 PM
A TBX tone control restores some of that clunky bright tone to an HS3...

jhale667
02-28-2012, 01:02 PM
A TBX tone control restores some of that clunky bright tone to an HS3...

Interesting, but no tone control on that guitar, and not into the idea of drilling it for one...