Trump sons’ wild killing spree causes outrage

[Seshmeister]

http://www.iol.co.za/capetimes/trump-sons-wild-killing-spree-causes-outrage-1.1259664
March 19 2012 at 02:37pm


http://www.iol.co.za/polopoly_fs/ct-tail2-done-23960641-1.1259498!/image/4070957183.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_300/4070957183.jpg
Donald Trump Jr with the tail of a slain elephant while on a hunting safari in Zimbabwe two years ago. He claims to have done 'nothing wrong'.



PHOTOGRAPHS of the sons of US billionaire Donald Trump posing over wild animals after killing them in Zimbabwe have caused a storm of outrage among animal conservation groups and on social networking sites.

The pictures, taken two years ago during a hunting trip in Zimbabwe, show Eric and Donald Trump Jr and tour guides next to carcasses of a leopard, a crocodile, a water buffalo, a civet, a kudu and an array of other animals.

In one of the pictures, Donald Jr holds a severed elephant tail while grasping a knife in his other hand. In another he and his brother are holding up a leopard’s carcass, and in another the brothers pose beside a crocodile suspended from a tree.

The trip was organised by Hunting Legends International, a Pretoria company that specialises in big-game hunting tailored for wealthy clients in Europe, the Middle East and the US.

After the pictures went viral on the internet, thousands chastised the Trump brothers on Twitter and Facebook while animal conservation groups were “outraged” by the pictures. The pictures were also rebuked by People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (Peta).

Donald Trump Jr took to Twitter this weekend to defend

himself against a shoal of complaints from users. He said the hunting was sanctioned by the Zimbabwean government and that it was legal.

“In the area I was in, the wildlife board wanted to decrease the numbers for the benefit of the herd. Like liberal deer limits,” he said in one tweet.

“I don’t apologise to cater to public opinion when I did nothing wrong. To do so would be to sell myself out… There are no legal issues at stake,” he tweeted.

“Second, as for PR I’m a hunter I won’t cower from that because of some losers,” Trump continued.

He said the money would be used to fund nature conservation in Zimbabwe.

Stephen Lamb of Touching the Earth Lightly said he was outraged by the pictures and e-mailed a complaint to Hunting Legends.

“Hunting as an activity was there for a reason. It was there for human life sustenance, for people to eat. People who lived in tune with nature and understood their place in it,” Lamb said.

“In a traditional hunter-gatherer sense it was acceptable, but these days are mostly over.

“In a world where we are trying to save animals from extinction, trophy hunting has no place on this planet.

“Conservation is fundamentally a pro-life philosophy, one that respects all things living, equally. Conservation does not need the blood money of rich people who kill for pleasure.

“What conservation initiatives were funded by this killing, and who endorses them?

“Considering Zimbabwe’s legacy of corruption, these are the questions that must be asked. It’s all too easy to use the ‘it’s for conservation’ line,” Lamb said.

In response to Trump Jr’s statement that hunting was because of an overpopulation of the animals in Zimbabwe, Lamb said other measures such as relocation could be considered, and culling was always a last resort. “If you do have to cull, do it in a way that will show respect to the animals.

“Standing over an animal, smiling, with its tail in your hand is not one of them.”

Hunting Legends International’s Phillip Mostert said the hunt took place in the Matetsi Hunting Area near the Victoria Falls.

He said that it was legal and ethically conducted as prescribed by industry norms and regulations.

[FORD]

I've seen that arrogant little prick on his daddy's dumb TV show. He's just got that look of somebody that even Jesus or Ghandi would want to punch him in the face the moment they saw him.

[sadaist]

I want to blindfold him & drop him in the middle of no where. And then inform him he has 1 hour head start. And the 10 hunters behind me know it's Trump season. Let's hunt down this fucker and see if he appreciates life a little more as his is being cut out of him.

I fucking HATE the killing of animals. I don't even kill spiders or bees. I'll scoop em up & place them outside. When I was doing pool service, every single bug, critter, creature that I saw struggling to live I made sure to carefully rescue & place off in the bushes or grass. Why is one life worth less than any other?

2 reasons to kill something. For food and self defense.

I don't buy the donated the elephant to a local village to eat story for a god damned second. The Trumps could have spent the same amount of money as they paid for their hunting trip to buy rice & grains for that same village & fed a lot more people. Just disgusting.

And the photos of the 2 kids with all the dead animals thinking they are big tough men. MOTHERFUCKERS! I swear man, I haven't wanted to break someones nose & smash it into their smug face so bad ever.

Grotesque.

These fuckers are going to have to answer to these souls when they die. They better come up with a better excuse than a cool photo op.

[sadaist]

Trump Jr’s statement that hunting was because of an overpopulation


If that is the reasoning he better head off to China and get to work on the billion+ there. Fucking weak go-to excuse to justify taking a life. Fucking little spoiled cocksucker. I wanna smash his face in.......due to Trump overpopulation of course.

[Seshmeister]

I don't think anyone who eats meat can object much to people shooting deer but rich kids paying money to shoot a leopard or an elephant is sick shit.

Saying it was for food is obviously complete fucking bullshit.

[Diamondjimi]

I don't think anyone who eats meat can object much to people shooting deer but rich kids paying money to shoot a leopard or an elephant is sick shit.

Saying it was for food is obviously complete fucking bullshit.

Agreed.

[DLR Bridge]

Bill Maher had a good line about this prick. "When you cut off an elephant's tail, you can see the asshole. The asshole is the one with the tail in one hand and machete in the other."

[Seshmeister]

I've been watching a bit of the US Celebrity Apprentice this season because there are a couple of people I quite like on it and I'm really struck by how mediocre Trump is.

He's no great fountain of smart wisdom, he makes the UK guy Alan Sugar seem like a fucking guru and he's a bit laughable although at least self made.

Both of them pretty much failed and then were saved by the massive property boom as far as I can make out.

Trump of course is the guy that inherited $300 million and managed to go bankrupt. That's beyond fucking Brewsters Millions so I'm guessing his sexcrement are going to be even less use.

That family are a great advert for brutal 95% inheritance taxation for the very rich.

[Seshmeister]

Original article is from South Africa btw, hardly a bastion of PETA.

[ZahZoo]

Not sure I get why all the hoopla over a hunt two years ago... not to mention these rich bastard safari hunts go on all the time. They even issue permits to farms/private preserves to literally farm big game specifically for these type of hunts. It's big business and been going on a couple hundreds years now...

[clarathecarrot]

It is always nice to say to not kill, but those people are ...assinine..( who even knows how to spell that word ?)

We should kill the Whales first that Krill is going to be needed to feed humans 50 years from now.

Watch and see... "Whale, with a side of delicious Krill, the other, other, pink meats." It's what's for dinner.

Then the PETA people.. I mean they can't be happy all covered with that living skin and meat all over thier bodies.

Fight The Power.

[clarathecarrot]

Bill Maher had a good line about this prick. "When you cut off an elephant's tail, you can see the asshole. The asshole is the one with the tail in one hand and machete in the other."
This is the guy your parents told you to stay away from and look what happened, just like they said, you been hipmotize by a TV Show.

[Nitro Express]

I love all these Peta people with leather shoes, leather belts, and leather designer hand bags.

I'm all for treating animals decently but they are still animals. I'm not a trophy hunter. I never believed in that. If you kill it use it. Go back to the old native american philosophy. The thing is and the reality is, when you have man encroaching on wild habitats you have to manage these animals. If you just let wild boars reproduce at will you then have an infestation of them and even the most die hard PETA person will yell kill! kill! kill! when they get attacked by boars on their little nature trail.

[Nitro Express]

I wonder if elephant tail soup tastes like ox tail soup? I keep hearing the african elephant is going extinct. They used to sell ivory in Hong Kong when we lived there. The chopsticks at the Royal Hong Kong Jockey Club were always real ivory. Now they have even banned ivory over there now because the trade was wiping out the elephants.

I would like to hunt Ivanka Trump's tail.

[DLR Bridge]

This is the guy your parents told you to stay away from and look what happened, just like they said, you been hipmotize by a TV Show.

I ain't been hipmotized by no TV show! 'Cept maybe the first 5 minutes of the Jon Stewart show.

[Nitro Express]

It's ok though. You always can make more elephants. If you can get it in.

[fourthcoming]

Ivanka Humpalot......she's a piece of aishe

[Nitro Express]

Ivanka Humpalot......she's a piece of aishe

I think her mom got boinked by the pool boy or butler. No way could Donald's loins produce someone as fine as her.

[Nitro Express]

What's ironic is you can kill people in Africa by the thousands and nobody cares that much actually. Some rich kid kills an elephant and people go ape shit.

[clarathecarrot]

I love all these Peta people with leather shoes, leather belts, and leather designer hand bags.

I'm all for treating animals decently but they are still animals. I'm not a trophy hunter. I never believed in that. If you kill it use it. Go back to the old native american philosophy. The thing is and the reality is, when you have man encroaching on wild habitats you have to manage these animals. If you just let wild boars reproduce at will you then have an infestation of them and even the most die hard PETA person will yell kill! kill! kill! when they get attacked by boars on their little nature trail.

Best people, are the condesending ones with the biggest dissorder of..It wasn't the Sharks fault, I don't blame the Rabbid Dog for eating my arm...yeah, right buddy it was all your fault..cunts.

Kill that goddamn dog and hunt that shark down.

Hollywood and many dissturbed people are/ is sick with elevating animals above humans.

I welcome anyone to read my posts in this thread and honor me with a debate on this subject.

I will just state the fact that if you want to live with nature and move to Montana...etc,.. don't be all faggotty when the Bear eats all three of your children...If you don't give your 3 year old a 44 mag for protection.. to go play with the cat in the back yard your a bad parent.

P.S. They all do, they just act in the press like they don't..that is why they are all cunts.

[mohican]

I'm all for treating animals decently but they are still animals. I'm not a trophy hunter. I never believed in that. If you kill it use it. Go back to the old native american philosophy. The thing is and the reality is, when you have man encroaching on wild habitats you have to manage these animals. If you just let wild boars reproduce at will you then have an infestation of them and even the most die hard PETA person will yell kill! kill! kill! when they get attacked by boars on their little nature trail.

Right on. I'm no vegetarian so I will not speak against people who hunt for food. They tend to eat the whole animal or most of it as opposed to us civilized folks who raise large population of animals just so we can eat certain parts, i.e., chicken boneless/skinless chicken breast. The hunters are less wasteful. On the other hand, it's obnoxious to kill an elephant, lion or cheetah. I don't think those animals are overpopulated.

[clarathecarrot]

I ain't been hipmotized by no TV show! 'Cept maybe the first 5 minutes of the Jon Stewart show.
I was generalising about your post ..no harsh.

I can't get into Stewert the only years I didn't watch Talk Soup were the ones he watched his humor is not news and his news is not comedy...just wierd and silly.

I don't watch Colbert either though he is more on line with what the shows should be...plus I miss him as Phil Ken Sebben ...


PEOPLE!!! The Salisbury Steak is PEOPLE...(then he tastes it)..Oh no it isn't.

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcnb1u7jPb1qe8ze9o1_500.gif

Yes folks, Soilent Green is people!

[Nitro Express]

Bears don't eat people. They just kill you and rip you up a bit. I live right where we get bear warnings. We can't put any food out or even have bird seed in bird feeders because it attracts bears.

[FORD]

Bears don't eat people. They just kill you and rip you up a bit. I live right where we get bear warnings. We can't put any food out or even have bird seed in bird feeders because it attracts bears.

For the most part, bears will leave you alone if you leave them alone. Just never get between a bear and his food. Or a mama bear and her cub. In those two situations, the bear considers you a threat, and then you're fucked.

Saw a mama black bear and her cub up in the mountains once. They were a little ways off in the distance, and baby bear was next to mama, so I wasn't worried at all. Frankly, the piles of cougar shit that were on the trail were far more disturbing, because that big kitteh could have been hiding just about anywhere, and I wouldn't have seen him until it was too late.

[clarathecarrot]

Bears don't eat people. They just kill you and rip you up a bit. I live right where we get bear warnings. We can't put any food out or even have bird seed in bird feeders because it attracts bears.


I know that..jeze don't forget I am a brilliant .. man..They just eat the certain parts that get in the way of thier, mouths.

I also know we don't stand a chance against most of the top food chain animals this world has roaming around.

I don't think I would fare well solo cave man against many of them..I also love that debate..."well if he didn't have a gun ..it's not a fair fight"...correct, we learned 100K years ago that it wouldn't be fair to kick a 5 year old male lion in the balls and stand and wait for him to let you do it again.

For the comment above the... Elephants are needing culling out, you don't just go shoot one..because your some rich son... there a licences to be bought and a long waiting list designed by -PETA like people- who choose wich Big Game gets killed.

[clarathecarrot]

One more for the debate why are these bitches posing naked for PETA with all that nasty skin all over thier meat filled bodies..they look like fucking animals.

Cept for this girl...Roselyn Sanchez....grrrr you are like so much meat.
http://www.popcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/roselyn_sanchez_428332j.jpg

Yeah baby I get your point, Meat is Murder...cause your body kills me.

[DLR Bridge]

I was generalising about your post ..no harsh.

No harsh taken! I don't particularly tune in to Stewart for the comedy anymore. I do think that he (and his team of writers) do a great job of owning whomever deserves owning at the moment. I actually have no time for TV these days so I've been checking out pod casts of Maher on my train commute. I don't agree with everything he says, but his gripes are legitimate and his panel forums are entertaining a usually pretty smaaht.

[fourthcoming]

That's one Dirty Sanchez....

[clarathecarrot]

No harsh taken! I don't particularly tune in to Stewart for the comedy anymore. I do think that he (and his team of writers) do a great job of owning whomever deserves owning at the moment. I actually have no time for TV these days so I've been checking out pod casts of Maher on my train commute. I don't agree with everything he says, but his gripes are legitimate and his panel forums are entertaining a usually pretty smaaht.

cool....

[Nitro Express]

I know that..jeze don't forget I am a brilliant .. man..They just eat the certain parts that get in the way of thier, mouths.

I also know we don't stand a chance against most of the top food chain animals this world has roaming around.

I don't think I would fare well solo cave man against many of them..I also love that debate..."well if he didn't have a gun ..it's not a fair fight"...correct, we learned 100K years ago that it wouldn't be fair to kick a 5 year old male lion in the balls and stand and wait for him to let you do it again.

For the comment above the... Elephants are needing culling out, you don't just go shoot one..because your some rich son... there a licences to be bought and a long waiting list designed by -PETA like people- who choose wich Big Game gets killed.

The people who preach to us about animals and nature know nothing about what they are saying. You hear these people who have never been hunting in their lives say the hunter has the advantage because he has the gun. Ok. There's that herd of elk over there and just go walk over and shoot one. They will sense you coming in and go up the side of that mountain like nothing. You will never keep up. Us humans are clumbsy and slow. A deer can go up the side of a mountain and make it look effortless. You have to get into shooting range first and then you have to get the proper shot. It's not easy. Most people that go out to shoot some game usually come back home with nothing. If you don't know how to properly locate and stalk game, good luck on killing anything.

Hunting animals is a lot like hunting pussy Friday or Saturday night. Most dudes who go out usually get nothing for their effort.

[clarathecarrot]

That's one Dirty Sanchez....

Yeah,.. FILTHY!.


I would like to debate world politics with her.

We, her and I, would never work out together as a couple, tho..

..like all women she would be all pissed off at me for laying around and sleeping all day and getting the water in my bowl all over the floor again...not to mention if I ate the crotches out of her favorite pair of panties.

[clarathecarrot]

The people who preach to us about animals and nature know nothing about what they are saying. You hear these people who have never been hunting in their lives say the hunter has the advantage because he has the gun. Ok. There's that herd of elk over there and just go walk over and shoot one. They will sense you coming in and go up the side of that mountain like nothing. You will never keep up. Us humans are clumbsy and slow. A deer can go up the side of a mountain and make it look effortless. You have to get into shooting range first and then you have to get the proper shot. It's not easy. Most people that go out to shoot some game usually came back home with nothing. If you don't know how to properly locate and stalk game, good luck on killing anything.

The strongest advocates for control and,..sustainability,,( oh god that word, I am so trendy ..ugg) are always the poeple who hunt or work in the harvesting of said animals.

Too bad I can't start a campain of Natural..Free Range and Organic and tie it to the use of animal producs (fur)
by Humans..but

the FDA bought those words and owns the rights to them. Many people don't know that those words are the single largest sales tool to sell Kool-Aid to sheep, ever.

[DLR Bridge]

Yeah,.. FILTHY!.


I would like to debate world politics with her.

We, her and I, would never work out together as a couple, tho..

..like all women she would be all pissed off at me for laying around and sleeping all day and getting the water in my bowl all over the floor again...not to mention if I ate the crotches out of her favorite pair of panties.

She deserves the award for the most erotic scene in a painfully unfunny comedy. Have you ever seen what she did with a banana in the 2002 bomb, Boat Trip? Worth owning on DVD for, if you can find it. The unrated version, that is.

Hey, I like this topic better!

[Nitro Express]

All I ask from Hollywood is to be entertained and it even seems to be failing at that lately. As soon as Hollywood starts to dictate to me about morality, politics, ethics, and how I should live my life it can fuck itself. Shut the fuck up! Memorize your lines! Write your scripts and put a fucking show on for us and then fucking disappear. Please!

[TwoFoolsAMinute]

I am a grad student in Zooarchaeology. I study ancient hunting every day. This debate is very interesting...anthropologically.

[clarathecarrot]

All I ask from Hollywood is to be entertained and it even seems to be failing at that lately. As soon as Hollywood starts to dictate to me about morality, politics, ethics, and how I should live my life it can fuck itself. Shut the fuck up! Memorize your lines! Write your scripts and put a fucking show on for us and then fucking disappear. Please!

Good statement Nitro.

We all know they call the Papparazi to let them know where you are going for lunch today.

If you are going to have a cause your accountant and pr team sais it is time to stand for something..animal rights is the easiest and demands no interest or time by the advocate many actors have worthy causes that aren't so vacant and self evident.

PETA has big money for nude foxes .

Someday I will tell the story of, why some Coyotes are driven to suicide and how PETA doesn't seem to care at all.

edit: ( I first wrote why PETE doesn't seem to care,.. but we all know Petes brother does)..lol

[clarathecarrot]

She deserves the award for the most erotic scene in a painfully unfunny comedy. Have you ever seen what she did with a banana in the 2002 bomb, Boat Trip? Worth owning on DVD for, if you can find it. The unrated version, that is.

Hey, I like this topic better!

Maybe I couldn't sit thru it to get to the sezzy part..?

I found out about her while gogg'n,.. nakkid, raven haired women with bat tattoos..don't ask why. Needless to say as is with my internet searches I found her pics and forgot my name....and wtf I was doing,,..lol.

[moose]

PETA
People eating tasty animals

I hunt every year
I kill
I am man
I am in the top of the food chain
I EAT MEAT motherfuckers
Fuck all you vegan retards
Man has hunted from the get go and that will never change

[clarathecarrot]

I am a grad student in Zooarchaeology. I study ancient hunting every day. This debate is very interesting...anthropologically.

That isn't like that fake real sounding, degree of those jaggoffs on TV who hunt -Big Feets- and say things like, sqwatch patch ( it's where mr big feets lives) ...Cryptozoology..is it..?

j/k

[clarathecarrot]

PETA
People eating tasty animals

I hunt every year
I kill
I am man
I am in the top of the food chain
I EAT MEAT motherfuckers
Fuck all you vegan retards
Man has hunted from the get go and that will never change

A few years back a guy tought me how to hunt Deer and what I was really there for, how to field dress then, seperate the meat from the bone and not ruin the portions...I was very proud of myself learning that. I didn't have to take it to a butcher even though they are better at it .. that is a job of skill that can't be found much anymore.

Respect your local Butcher.

[moose]

A few years back a guy tought me how to hunt Deer and what I was really there for, how to field dress then, seperate the meat from the bone and not ruin the portions...I was very proud of myself learning that. I didn't have to take it to a butcher even though they are better at it ..because that is a job of skill that can't be found much anymore.

Respect your local Butcher.


Incredible experience eh?
I eat everything I shoot
Nothing is left behind
Hunting is one tuff gig
If it was easy like some ignorant people assume there would be
no game anywhere
Bad hunters we r

[clarathecarrot]

I once worked for a dude who was 70 years old at the time, he hunted every season as in all tags, fishing, trout ..deer, elk mountain goat, turkey etc,.. he paid perhaps a tousand dollars or more just for his tags,, ......( all going to conservation of said animals) almost every license, he could call a turkey within rock throwing distance, ( had to couldn't walk well).. with just his vocalizations, real old school hunter...anyway to the point, he gave me what was old (usually less than a year) in his freezer ,..as he replaced it every new season.

I have cooked and eaten some of the best food as you can imagine.

So it was old frozen, it wasn't wasted.

[FORD]

I love all these Peta people with leather shoes, leather belts, and leather designer hand bags.


There's a difference between leather and fur. As long as people eat beef, then you might as well use the skin too. The animals killed for fur are generally not edible, so it's a wasteful practice, and it's not as though anybody is wearing fur because it's the only way they can stay warm in the winter.

The Native Americans took the proper approach with the buffalo. Show a little respect for the animal, kill it when you need to, and use every part of it that you can (hides for clothing and teepees, bones for tools, etc.)

[katina]

=sadaist;1633254]I want to blindfold him & drop him in the middle of no where. And then inform him he has 1 hour head start. And the 10 hunters behind me know it's Trump season. Let's hunt down this fucker and see if he appreciates life a little more as his is being cut out of him.

I fucking HATE the killing of animals. I don't even kill spiders or bees. I'll scoop em up & place them outside. When I was doing pool service, every single bug, critter, creature that I saw struggling to live I made sure to carefully rescue & place off in the bushes or grass. Why is one life worth less than any other?

2 reasons to kill something. For food and self defense.

I don't buy the donated the elephant to a local village to eat story for a god damned second. The Trumps could have spent the same amount of money as they paid for their hunting trip to buy rice & grains for that same village & fed a lot more people. Just disgusting.

And the photos of the 2 kids with all the dead animals thinking they are big tough men. MOTHERFUCKERS! I swear man, I haven't wanted to break someones nose & smash it into their smug face so bad ever.

Grotesque.

These fuckers are going to have to answer to these souls when they die. They better come up with a better excuse than a cool photo op.

I cannot find the words in English, sorry. So I will quote Sadaist because I feel the same.
I have just a few words in spanish to The Trumps: HIJOS DE PUTA Y LA PUTA MADRE QUE LOS PARIÓ.

[moose]

I cannot find the words in English, sorry. So I will quote Sadaist because I feel the same.
I have just a few words in spanish to The Trumps: HIJOS DE PUTA Y LA PUTA MADRE QUE LOS PARIÓ.

As if you Argentinians are any better......if I'm not mistaken between 40-60% of the Argemtinians
Hunt.......
Hunting is in your blood
Get over it!!!
By the way there is no better BBQ than when u experience
a Argentinian one
Fuck they grill a mean piece of meat

[Nitro Express]

There's a difference between leather and fur. As long as people eat beef, then you might as well use the skin too. The animals killed for fur are generally not edible, so it's a wasteful practice, and it's not as though anybody is wearing fur because it's the only way they can stay warm in the winter.

The Native Americans took the proper approach with the buffalo. Show a little respect for the animal, kill it when you need to, and use every part of it that you can (hides for clothing and teepees, bones for tools, etc.)

You also need to kill the animal quickly. If you aren't sure you can't make the shot you don't take it. Also, they have some wonderful bullets that if placed right really do the job. We had a discussion about this very topic. More animals have been wounded with a 7mm Magnum and a high powered scope than a lower powered rifle with lower powered optics. People get too overconfident in the equipment.

Even with a gun it's still stalking an animal and positioning for a shot. The indians had it harder because their weapons had less range and power but it's the same general idea. Then you get through all that and get to where you are ready to take the shot and you get buck fever. It's the desperation to get the shot off that takes over and you mess up there.

Hunting is a real mental game and if you are a person with no patience it's not for you. It's being in the woods for days, usually in freezing awful weather, going up steep mountain sides with heavy equipment and it's all about being in the moment. If you think golfing is a good escape hunting beats that by several fold.

It's kind of like fishing. Most people that say they are hunting mostly hang in camp and drink booze and tell lies. You have the few die hards in camp that take it seriousely. The problem is you have a bunch of drunks back at camp that are suppossed to have the food cooked when you get back after dark and they usually are three sheets to the wind and nothing has been done and there is no booze left for you because they drank it all. What's funny is my dad told me most the lodges when he was a kid also had gambling dens and whore houses. Sure the husband told the wife he would be hunting over the weekend but he never specified what he would be hunting. With less people doing it now, the whore houses and gambling are gone.

[Nitro Express]

Now this is hunting. Funny how the game changed from zebra to fowl.
http://youtu.be/QiFUCv9yti4

[moose]

You also need to kill the animal quickly. If you aren't sure you can't make the shot you don't take it. Also, they have some wonderful bullets that if placed right really do the job. We had a discussion about this very topic. More animals have been wounded with a 7mm Magnum and a high powered scope than a lower powered rifle with lower powered optics. People get too overconfident in the equipment.

Even with a gun it's still stalking an animal and positioning for a shot. The indians had it harder because their weapons had less range and power but it's the same general idea. Then you get through all that and get to where you are ready to take the shot and you get buck fever. It's the desperation to get the shot off that takes over and you mess up there.

Hunting is a real mental game and if you are a person with no patience it's not for you. It's being in the woods for days, usually in freezing awful weather, going up steep mountain sides with heavy equipment and it's all about being in the moment. If you think golfing is a good escape hunting beats that by several fold.

It's kind of like fishing. Most people that say they are hunting mostly hang in camp and drink booze and tell lies. You have the few die hards in camp that take it seriousely. The problem is you have a bunch of drunks back at camp that are suppossed to the food cooked when you get back after dark and they usually are three sheets to the wind and nothing has been done and there is no booze left for you because they drank it all. What's funny is my dad told me most the lodges when he was a kid also had gambling dens and whore houses. Sure the husband told the wife he would be hunting over the weekend but he never specified what he would be hunting. With less people doing it now, the whore houses and gambling are gone.

That's y I shoot a Mark V Wetherby in 270 WBY mag
Using 150 grn Nosler Pt's
Every animal I have harvested with that firearm died quickly and all
With ONE shot
I truly respect the animals I hunt and do everything possible
To insure a quick and human kill
And that includes taking the time to
Practice, learn all I can about ballistics etc etc

I am so comfortable with the above firearm that I would face a charging lion
With it......

[moose]

Now this is hunting. Funny how the game changed from zebra to fowl.
http://youtu.be/QiFUCv9yti4

Now I get the "Nitro Express" handle

570 NE
470 NE
600 NE
Shoulder busters for sure
LOL

[clarathecarrot]

That was what I always figured ?..Nitro Express.


Express meaning heavy duty ballistic.

[Nitro Express]

Now I get the "Nitro Express" handle

570 NE
470 NE
600 NE
Shoulder busters for sure
LOL

You figured it out. Most people don't.

You know your stuff. 338 Winchester Magnum with Nosler Partitions for me. That's my main rig. I load it up or down depending on what I'm going for. Even more cool I built the rifle myself using a Mauser 98 action, a Douglas barrel, and a Timney trigger. I do have a muzzle brake on it. I carved the stock out of a nice piece of maple but then dropped it into a walnut stock because the maple one was just too damn heavy.

[sadaist]

PETA
People eating tasty animals

I hunt every year
I kill
I am man
I am in the top of the food chain
I EAT MEAT motherfuckers
Fuck all you vegan retards
Man has hunted from the get go and that will never change


I eat meat. Love a good medium rare steak, bacon, sausage, etc... (now for the hypocrite rant)

But this Trump thing has ZERO to do with being hungry and hunting for food. ZERO!

Just because after he killed animals he decided to toss the carcass to hungry local villagers does not make it that he was hunting for food. That's a bunch of shit to make it seem okay. These Trumps hunted for 2 reasons. Trophies and little dicks. Period.

I think my views are morphing as I get older. I have just experienced seeing too many creatures die. And when you watch something die & you can obviously tell it does not want to die & is fighting to live....it changes your perspective. It has mine at least. I'm not perfect, but I'm striving to be better.



How very complicated it is for something to have life. How simple it is to take that away.

[sadaist]

As far as the meat for our food supply...I actually contacted PETA to see if there were any programs or such that were working on improving the methods that these animals were being raised and ultimately put to death. The conditions are pure torture and the failed ways they are put down at the end are atrocious. I think this is seriously wrong. With as advanced as we are today, there should be a more humane way to put a head of cattle down. There should be a more humane way of allowing them space to move during their short life. Of course PETA just responded chastising me for eating any meat. I think they should work in areas where they can make a difference. $0.02

Humane.....not really very humane since I'm ultimately eating the thing. trust me, I see my own hypocrisy here. But really....just because I am going to eat this cow, does it need to spend a short life of torture & be killed in the most awful and slow ways?

[Nitro Express]

The devil has come to Tsavo. His name is Trump. :biggrin:

[FORD]

As far as the meat for our food supply...I actually contacted PETA to see if there were any programs or such that were working on improving the methods that these animals were being raised and ultimately put to death. The conditions are pure torture and the failed ways they are put down at the end are atrocious. I think this is seriously wrong. With as advanced as we are today, there should be a more humane way to put a head of cattle down. There should be a more humane way of allowing them space to move during their short life. Of course PETA just responded chastising me for eating any meat. I think they should work in areas where they can make a difference. $0.02

Humane.....not really very humane since I'm ultimately eating the thing. trust me, I see my own hypocrisy here. But really....just because I am going to eat this cow, does it need to spend a short life of torture & be killed in the most awful and slow ways?

Any doctor worth his or her degree will tell you that stress and anxiety have an impact on your body. It's the same for any living creature, including the ones we eat. If a cow or a pig or a chicken has to live its life in a stress filled environment, obviously that's going to be reflected in the part of that animal that you eat. And that's not even accounting for the hormones, GMO corn fed to cows that shouldn't even eat ANY corn at all, antibiotics, etc. I think I've mentioned this before, but I worked for a while in a feed mill that made various types of animal feed for a local dairy company. You had to wear a mask at this job, not just because it was a dusty environment, but what some of that dust was, because the fumes from some of this shit would literally make you gag. When I quit that job, I had to throw away an otherwise perfectly good pair of shoes, because the stench of that place just couldn't be cleaned out of them. (And believe me, when you wear Size 15 shoes, as hard to find as they are, you don't throw them away unless you absolutely HAVE to)

[FORD]

The devil has come to Tsavo. His name is Trump. :biggrin:

Now that's just completely unfair......... to the Devil http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d085.gif

[Nitro Express]

Any doctor worth his or her degree will tell you that stress and anxiety have an impact on your body. It's the same for any living creature, including the ones we eat. If a cow or a pig or a chicken has to live its life in a stress filled environment, obviously that's going to be reflected in the part of that animal that you eat. And that's not even accounting for the hormones, GMO corn fed to cows that shouldn't even eat ANY corn at all, antibiotics, etc. I think I've mentioned this before, but I worked for a while in a feed mill that made various types of animal feed for a local dairy company. You had to wear a mask at this job, not just because it was a dusty environment, but what some of that dust was, because the fumes from some of this shit would literally make you gag. When I quit that job, I had to throw away an otherwise perfectly good pair of shoes, because the stench of that place just couldn't be cleaned out of them. (And believe me, when you wear Size 15 shoes, as hard to find as they are, you don't throw them away unless you absolutely HAVE to)

That's why the Japanese spoil the cows that are turned into Kobe beef rotten. They even get massages. It's a good life before you are finally killed.

[Nitro Express]

It's just a matter of time before Monsanto starts killing people with their GMO food and then turns the corpses into Soylent Green. In fact, I think McDonalds is already making their food out of Soylent Green.

[Nitro Express]

[QUOTE=FORD;1633435]Now that's just completely unfair......... to the Devil http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d085.gif[/QUOTE

It's only a matter of time before someone takes a shot at that animal perched on top of Donald's head.

[Nickdfresh]

I don't think anyone who eats meat can object much to people shooting deer but rich kids paying money to shoot a leopard or an elephant is sick shit.

Saying it was for food is obviously complete fucking bullshit.

100%! I don't find anything wrong with legitimate hunting, but killing endangered species is fucking sick. These guys should suffer til the end of their lives for this...

[Nickdfresh]

PETA
People eating tasty animals

I hunt every year
I kill
I am man
I am in the top of the food chain
I EAT MEAT motherfuckers
Fuck all you vegan retards
Man has hunted from the get go and that will never change

You're missing the fucking point, Ted Nugent's "Mini-me."

[moose]

[QUOTE=Nickdfresh;1633455]You're missing the fucking point, Ted Nugent's "Mini-

Naw I ain't missing any point
He can afford an African Safari...let him kill an elephant
So fuckin what.....do you ignorant assholes know
That a whole FUCKIN VILLAGE eats the meat of an elephant!!
No didn't think so
So he paid $50000 to hunt an elephant and then after the kill he feeds an entire
Village.........oh my goodness how incredibly cruel is that

[moose]

And the rest of you are here making fun of him
Gimme a fuckin break
WHAT HAVE YOU ASSHOLES DONE TO FEED A VILLAGE IN AFRICA
FUCK that how about in your own backyard??
The USA......not one of you care about the needy
Just about an animal that PROVIDED FOOD for a village
Hypocrites

[moose]

100%! I don't find anything wrong with legitimate hunting, but killing endangered species is fucking sick. These guys should suffer til the end of their lives for this...

Elephants r NOT endangered
As a matter of fact they have become a nusance hence the culling of said elephants
The problem in Africa is the EXPLODING POPULATION And POACHING
The only BIG GAME animal endangered in Africa is the Black and white rhino
And they auction off a few tags a year to generate money to protect these animals through hunting

[moose]

You're missing the fucking point, Ted Nugent's "Mini-me."

Hehehehehe

[FORD]

I don't like inheritance rich shitbags who contribute nothing to this planet. Trump Jr......Chimpy.....Paris Hilton..... pretty much any of them.

And the "feed a village in Africa" spin is pretty dumb really. If those Africans wanted to eat elephant meat, they could have shot one themselves. At least they could justify doing so for that reason. Not to cut a tail of the thing so he could use the hair to do patch up jobs on Daddy's rug.

[moose]

[QUOTE=Nitro Express;1633426]The devil has come to Tsavo. His name is Trump. :biggrin:[/

All kidding aside thousands of people are killed yearly in Africa by lions and hippos and crocs and leopards
Fuck everything in Africa bites
Lol

[Nitro Express]

I don't like inheritance rich shitbags who contribute nothing to this planet. Trump Jr......Chimpy.....Paris Hilton..... pretty much any of them.

And the "feed a village in Africa" spin is pretty dumb really. If those Africans wanted to eat elephant meat, they could have shot one themselves. At least they could justify doing so for that reason. Not to cut a tail of the thing so he could use the hair to do patch up jobs on Daddy's rug.

[moose]

I don't like inheritance rich shitbags who contribute nothing to this planet. Trump Jr......Chimpy.....Paris Hilton..... pretty much any of them.

And the "feed a village in Africa" spin is pretty dumb really. If those Africans wanted to eat elephant meat, they could have shot one themselves. At least they could justify doing so for that reason. Not to cut a tail of the thing so he could use the hair to do patch up jobs on Daddy's rug.

They don't have the means
Only poachers do and they shoot, take the tusks
or rhino horn and leave the meat to spoil
Trust me these villages have nothin.....

[Nitro Express]

[QUOTE=Nitro Express;1633426]The devil has come to Tsavo. His name is Trump. :biggrin:[/

All kidding aside thousands of people are killed yearly in Africa
With lions and hippos and crocs and leopards
Fuck everything in Africa bites
Lol

I was following a website of a guy who was driving around the world. He had been to Africa before and he spent a whole month in the UK buying supplies and preparing to go. He said Africa is one hell of a place and you just don't drive into it and go, here I am! The more I read about Africa it sounds like a good place to get yourself killed.

[moose]

As far as the meat for our food supply...I actually contacted PETA to see if there were any programs or such that were working on improving the methods that these animals were being raised and ultimately put to death. The conditions are pure torture and the failed ways they are put down at the end are atrocious. I think this is seriously wrong. With as advanced as we are today, there should be a more humane way to put a head of cattle down. There should be a more humane way of allowing them space to move during their short life. Of course PETA just responded chastising me for eating any meat. I think they should work in areas where they can make a difference. $0.02

Humane.....not really very humane since I'm ultimately eating the thing. trust me, I see my own hypocrisy here. But really....just because I am going to eat this cow, does it need to spend a short life of torture & be killed in the most awful and slow ways?

They don't suffer a slow painful death
Most of them are put down very quickly
Yeah I know I've seen the same vids you have but that
is a small percentage of all the abattoirs
Usually found in Hicksville USA or bum fuck canada

[moose]

[QUOTE=moose;1633473]

I was following a website of a guy who was driving around the world. He had been to Africa before and he spent a whole month in the UK buying supplies and preparing to go. He said Africa is one hell of a place and you just don't drive into it and go, here I am! The more I read about Africa it sounds like a good place to get yourself killed.

I've been invited many times to go to Africa to hunt
All paid for......said no but one day...
Right now i am looking to hunt Elk with my bow
New Mexico, Wyoming....haven't decided yet

[moose]

You figured it out. Most people don't.

You know your stuff. 338 Winchester Magnum with Nosler Partitions for me. That's my main rig. I load it up or down depending on what I'm going for. Even more cool I built the rifle myself using a Mauser 98 action, a Douglas barrel, and a Timney trigger. I do have a muzzle brake on it. I carved the stock out of a nice piece of maple but then dropped it into a walnut stock because the maple one was just too damn heavy.

Nice rig!!
She must cycle real sweet and shoot real flat
You do a lot of long range shooting?

[Nitro Express]

Nice rig!!
She must cycle real sweet and shoot real flat
You do a lot of long range shooting?

Years ago I qualified for Camp Perry. Yeah I put a lot of work into that rifle. I lapped the bolt with compound and then jeweled it and chromed it. Did all that myself too. That's when I lived in Boise, Idaho and was friends with a gunsmith and had access to all his tools. Then the range was right outside. It was a nice setup.

I used to do sihlouette shooting. Now I just pretty much mess around with the cowboy action stuff. I've gotten pretty good at quick draw. I have a 22 pistol I practice with to save on ammo costs and got to where I could hit the box 50 rounds of 22 come in quite regularly shooting from the hip. It's amazingly how accurate it is once you get the feel down. That's fun.

[moose]

Have a custom 257 WBY Backcountry in my safe with a mark V action a fluted barrel and a mcmillan synthetic stock...thing weighs about 4.5lbs, havent decided what to top it of with yet...
I also have a custom Sauer 90 in 300 Weatherby Mag.........HOLY FUCK this thing is a gem...and man does she hold flat and hit hard......

don't do the handgun deal...............too many obstacles here in Canada to own one

[sadaist]

That a whole FUCKIN VILLAGE eats the meat of an elephant!!
No didn't think so
So he paid $50000 to hunt an elephant and then after the kill he feeds an entire



How long will that elephant meat last?

How long would $50,000 worth of beans, grains, rice last?


It wasn't about food. it was about a photo op to put on their mahogany desks in their penthouse offices and be able to brag at cocktail parties.


If I had $50k to blow like this, I'd go and see Elephants, take pictures, maybe get to ride one (in Thailand you can do that), donate to a sanctuary so they can take care of even more elephants.



My trophy photo would look like this.......but with an elephant.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa214/sadaist/giraffe-1.jpg

[sadaist]

Elephants r NOT endangered
As a matter of fact they have become a nuisance hence the culling of said elephants



Chinese people are not endangered, are overpopulated & becoming a nuisance as well.

[moose]

Chinese people are not endangered, are overpopulated & becoming a nuisance as well.

Watch it you might get banned for being a racist
Lol

[moose]

[QUOTE=sadaist;1633492]How long will that elephant meat last?

How long would $50,000 worth of beans, grains, rice last?


It wasn't about food. it was about a photo op to put on their mahogany desks in their penthouse offices and be able to brag at cocktail parties.


If I had $50k to blow like this, I'd go and see Elephants, take pictures, maybe get to ride one (in Thailand you can do that), donate to a sanctuary so they can take care of even more elephants.



My trophy photo would look like this.......but with an elephant.

[IMG]http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa214/

U can say whatever you want but the fact remains that in Africa
a huge part of their diet is MEAT
Sure give em rice and beans and grain.......oh wait the warlords would get their
Grimey hands on this and sell it to the people who can afford it
Which is about 1% of the population
I cannot believe how naive some of you really are
I will ask this question again
How many of you have helped the needy in Africa??
How many have helped the needy in the USA
when you can tell me that you've done the above then and only then will I listen
And I can guarantee that if any of you fuckers had the money
NONE and I mean none of you would go
To Africa
So go and plead your case to fuckin PETA
Give em your money so they can tell you what a wonderfull
Job they r doing lining their own pocket

Nice pic by the way
Animals in a zoo for your enjoyment....how pathetic is that?
When was the last time trekked away from
Your home to actually see some wildlife that wasn't on tv on a computer screen
Or in a zoo????
:-)

[Nitro Express]

Have a custom 257 WBY Backcountry in my safe with a mark V action a fluted barrel and a mcmillan synthetic stock...thing weighs about 4.5lbs, havent decided what to top it of with yet...
I also have a custom Sauer 90 in 300 Weatherby Mag.........HOLY FUCK this thing is a gem...and man does she hold flat and hit hard......

don't do the handgun deal...............too many obstacles here in Canada to own one

I got a Canadian made Enfield. I had a hell of a time finding 303 ammo.

[Nitro Express]

Elephant meat would not last long in a hot climate. In north America hunting season is in the fall so you have the advantage of having cold weather. As soon as your animal is down you have to gut it out. Leaving the guts in spoils the meat because they start to rot and that goes into the meat. If you bust the bladder you have ruined the meat. There are also glands you have to cut off. A lot to know or your deer is going to taste like shit. I can't imagine gutting an elephant out and processing it in the hot African sun. Imagine the flies. It would take a team of people to process it and they would have to have a lot of salt on hand to do it. I think it's bullshit as well.

[Nitro Express]

People are poor for one main reason. The debt driven banking system wants it that way. The world will only get poorer until the nations of the world wake up and stop paying the central banks for the use of money. Governments can issue their own debt free money and as long as there isn't too little or too much and the government accepts the money in payment for taxes you have the problem fixed. Right now our congress borrows money and the central bank charges us interest on that and then they give the money interest free to banks that charge us even more interest on it. So instead of our money going towards bettering our countries, it goes into banks all around the world that create bubbles and depressions so they can buy everything up cheap after the defaults. Eventually the bankers own everything and the rest of us pay almost all we earn to pay the debt. Fix this scam and believe me, there will be less poverty in the world.

Africa has always been a source of minerals, agricultural land, gold, diamond, and oil for oligarchs. No way in hell do they want the locals to control all that wealth.

[sadaist]

Nice pic by the way
Animals in a zoo for your enjoyment....how pathetic is that?
When was the last time trekked away from
Your home to actually see some wildlife that wasn't on tv on a computer screen
Or in a zoo????
:-)


Hey Moose....stop fucking up the reply with quote feature.

Anyways....this sounds like an invitation for me to post more photos. HUZZAH!




*LOL. I love how you try to tear me a new one then end it with the :-) Van Halen baby! Beers on Moose!!!!!!

[FORD]

I will ask this question again
How many of you have helped the needy in Africa??
How many have helped the needy in the USA
when you can tell me that you've done the above then and only then will I listen
And I can guarantee that if any of you fuckers had the money
NONE and I mean none of you would go
To Africa


Bono? Is that you?? Well, maybe it's time to put another Live Aid show together and feed these folks something besides tough stringy elephant meat....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zIW8qDPhos

[sadaist]

Fitting


http://threestooges.net/images/tributes/RabbitFire.jpg

[Nickdfresh]

Naw I ain't missing any point
He can afford an African Safari...let him kill an elephant
So fuckin what.....do you ignorant assholes know
That a whole FUCKIN VILLAGE eats the meat of an elephant!!
No didn't think so
So he paid $50000 to hunt an elephant and then after the kill he feeds an entire
Village.........oh my goodness how incredibly cruel is that

Um, you do realize that African elephant populations have been decimated, do you? And it had nothing to do with the niceties of feeding hungry Africans. It was all about the ivory...

I bet someone made a nice, tidy profit on the ivory tusks...

[Nickdfresh]

And the rest of you are here making fun of him
Gimme a fuckin break
WHAT HAVE YOU ASSHOLES DONE TO FEED A VILLAGE IN AFRICA
FUCK that how about in your own backyard??
The USA......not one of you care about the needy
Just about an animal that PROVIDED FOOD for a village
Hypocrites

Let the Africans kill their own elephants...

[Nickdfresh]

Elephants r NOT endangered
As a matter of fact they have become a nusance hence the culling of said elephants

A bullshit technicality. Elephant poachers nearly eradicated the species by the 1970s reducing populations in Chad from 400,000 to 10,000 according to Wiki. They only rebounded DUE TO STRICT PROHIBITIONS ON HUNTING AND THE IVORY TRADE!!


The problem in Africa is the EXPLODING POPULATION And POACHING
The only BIG GAME animal endangered in Africa is the Black and white rhino
And they auction off a few tags a year to generate money to protect these animals through hunting

There are a lot of problems in Africa. The elephant once suffered much of the same poaching pressures as the rhino does today...

In the end, you're just making excuses for inheriting, rich assholes behaving badly. If they want to feed a fucking African village, there's vast means that their wealth would be more efficient rather than running around getting their cocks hard by shooting elephants...

If they really want to help Africans, THEN HUNT THE ULTIMATE GAME--MAN!!! Go out and shoot one of the evil warlord cunts (http://news.yahoo.com/campaign-against-ugandan-warlord-sweeps-internet-023825011.html) that rape, kidnap children for soldiers, and generally terrorize by wantonly killing whomever stands in their way....but selfish, pampered pussies like the Trump bastard children would never actually go after something that would shoot back....

[Nitro Express]

Um, you do realize that African elephant populations have been decimated, do you? And it had nothing to do with the niceties of feeding hungry Africans. It was all about the ivory...

There was a huge controversy over the ivory trade in Hong Kong in the late 70's. In fact, a friend of my parents was an ivory dealer. He had a shop in Hong Kong that sold works of art made from ivory. Some guy from Saudi Arabia bought a huge replica of a ship made of ivory for $5 million Hong Kong Dollars. It was a luxury item and in high demand but then you had the people saying it was time for the tradition to end because elephants were being killed just for their tusks. They also had these cool ivory balls that were carved with a ball inside a ball inside a ball. He would buy the raw ivory and have Chinese artisans carve it into fabulous things and resell it. If you went to a real high end restaurant the chop sticks were solid ivory.

[Nickdfresh]

Mmmmmm...elephant! It's whats for dinner! Might actually be better than the shitty burger I had at Red Robin for lunch, though...

[Nitro Express]

Typically with animals the younger they are the better they taste. I doubt a big old elephant would taste too good. I bet it's greasy, gamey, stringy and tough. I doubt Trump ate any.

[katina]

moose;1633400]As if you Argentinians are any better......if I'm not mistaken between 40-60% of the Argemtinians
Hunt.......
Hunting is in your blood
Get over it!!!
By the way there is no better BBQ than when u experience
a Argentinian one
Fuck they grill a mean piece of meat

In two of your post you wrote: "And I can guarantee that if any of you Fuckers had the money NONE and I mean none of you would go to Africa". Well, I have been in Africa, I have friends in Africa. One time I was a week at Addo Elephant National Park of South Africa. I followed the steps of the herd, ten metres away, by day and nigths. The Park was created in 1931 to protect the remainig 11 elephants...and other species....do you guess why???
The main point here is about The Trumps, standing over an animal, smiling with an elephant´s tail in the hand, trading 50.000$ for meat to the poor people of Zimbabwe? This is a joke. People as animals deserve respect, alive and dead.
You can realize that English is not my first language, so I wrote to The Trumps:Hijos de Puta y la Puta Madre que los Parió, but I insulted The Trumps, the individuals, not their Country or their inhabitants. You quoted me and wrote: As if you Argentinians are any better...Mr. Moose: you are insulting the whole people of Argentina, and the Country. Do you want insult me?, is fair. You also said 40-60% of argentinians hunt...., hunting is in our blood??? What did you mean??? We are mostly indians living on a tree?? Hunting, with bow an arrow? You insult again. Weapons, guns are prohibited in this Country, nobody has a gun, only in some rural areas, mostly for protection, rarely for hunting related with tourism in controlled places. I don´t know any argentinian hunter. You mention our famous BBQ, "asado" in Spanish, Braai in Afrikaans, just animal meat industry, it´s a product nothing related with hunting. Please back to topic.

[Nickdfresh]

Veal sucks...

[Nitro Express]

Veal is ok. Steak tar tar sucks.

[Nickdfresh]

I fucking love tar tar you fucking infidel!!

[adena dodds]

Why don't you try Kibble or Kibbie it's the Jewish/Syrian verson of steak tar, tar. It's made with lamb instead. All in all I don't eat much red meat let alone completely raw. I'll stick with sushi....cooked eel instead.
Veal is ok. Steak tar tar sucks.

[sadaist]

Um, you do realize that African elephant populations have been decimated, do you? .



Wait. Aren't there 2 main species of elephants? Is the other 1 Asian or Indian? Shit. Different ears or something, not sure.

[Seshmeister]

Elephants r NOT endangered


http://www.iucnredlist.org/apps/redlist/details/12392/0

[moose]

Hey Moose....stop fucking up the reply with quote feature.

Anyways....this sounds like an invitation for me to post more photos. HUZZAH!



*LOL. I love how you try to tear me a new one then end it with the :-) Van Halen baby! Beers on Moose!!!!!!

It's all cool bro!!
HAHAHAHAHA
Great thread...love to read the different views people have from music to sports to food..............makes life interesting......


I'm gonna go shoot an elephant now.....Cabelas Big Gam hunter style

[moose]

http://www.iucnredlist.org/apps/redlist/details/12392/0

Propaganda bro all propaganda...................

[moose]

so hunting is banned in Argentina............
nobody has guns.....LOL

http://hunting-in-argentina.org/
u must be FUBAR'd

[sadaist]

It's all cool bro!!
HAHAHAHAHA
Great thread...love to read the different views people have from music to sports to food..............makes life interesting......


I'm gonna go shoot an elephant now.....Cabelas Big Gam hunter style


Hey, remember I'm the one that started the Roth Army weaponry thread.

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?53779-GUNS-firearms-weaponry&highlight=

I have guns & love using them. I have killed things before and just don't want to any more. I'm all for people having the right to hunt things. I just try to make them think twice before they decide to take that life away. Just be damn sure you are doing it for a solid reason.

It's easy to kill. Load, point, squeeze.

It's near impossible to save. After trying so hard to save my dogs & doing everything I was possibly capable of over a long period of time, I realized just how hard it is to keep life going. Yet way too easy to end it.

Just think twice. Cause once you make that decision, you can't fix it. And regret sucks.

[Seshmeister]

Propaganda bro all propaganda...................

Yeah someone has painted 3 million elephants with invisible ink and that's why we can't see them any more... :)

[moose]

Sadist
I agree 100% with you....
I don't shoot ANYTHING I do not intend to eat....and when I do shoot I make sure it doen't suffer.........one shot, one kill......I love the taste of venison, moose, bear, elk....meat that is steroid free,fat free......
My Dad taught me a lesson about 30 yrs ago, when I shot a bird I had no intention of eating..............I can still feel whack I got from him and how he made me pick up the pcs put them in my game bag bring em home clean and cook the morsels ........
Cheers.....

[moose]

In two of your post you wrote: "And I can guarantee that if any of you Fuckers had the money NONE and I mean none of you would go to Africa". Well, I have been in Africa, I have friends in Africa. One time I was a week at Addo Elephant National Park of South Africa. I followed the steps of the herd, ten metres away, by day and nigths. The Park was created in 1931 to protect the remainig 11 elephants...and other species....do you guess why???
The main point here is about The Trumps, standing over an animal, smiling with an elephant´s tail in the hand, trading 50.000$ for meat to the poor people of Zimbabwe? This is a joke. People as animals deserve respect, alive and dead.
You can realize that English is not my first language, so I wrote to The Trumps:Hijos de Puta y la Puta Madre que los Parió, but I insulted The Trumps, the individuals, not their Country or their inhabitants. You quoted me and wrote: As if you Argentinians are any better...Mr. Moose: you are insulting the whole people of Argentina, and the Country. Do you want insult me?, is fair. You also said 40-60% of argentinians hunt...., hunting is in our blood??? What did you mean??? We are mostly indians living on a tree?? Hunting, with bow an arrow? You insult again. Weapons, guns are prohibited in this Country, nobody has a gun, only in some rural areas, mostly for protection, rarely for hunting related with tourism in controlled places. I don´t know any argentinian hunter. You mention our famous BBQ, "asado" in Spanish, Braai in Afrikaans, just animal meat industry, it´s a product nothing related with hunting. Please back to topic.

I am not making fun of Argentinians.......as a matter of fact making fun of them is like making fun of my own kind.
Argentinians are great people.....

[Seshmeister]

My Dad taught me a lesson about 30 yrs ago, when I shot a bird I had no intention of eating..............I can still feel whack I got from him and how he made me pick up the pcs put them in my game bag bring em home clean and cook the morsels ........
Cheers.....

Well the Trump kids obviously didn't get that lesson from their Dad and I don't know why you sticking up for them doing something you say you never would do.

[moose]

Well the Trump kids obviously didn't get that lesson from their Dad and I don't know why you sticking up for them doing something you say you never would do.

Everybody with money and when I say that I mean LOADS of money do things to stroke their ego's.....either it be buying planes, and cars and buliding huge mansions which in turn leads to raping our resources and polluting our enviorment etc etc...get my drift??
These guys are stroking their egos in a different way.....they are shooting rogue elephants as part of a culling program.....killing a leapord that the biologists and authorities deem as a necessity because of the danger it poses on the local village................there are so many benefits that hunting brings to Africa that we as North Americans do not realize, we have everything we can basically need at our fingertips......not so much them.
Thats what I am defending.........the people of Africa need this type of "safari".....so who are we to bitch about that, they deserve to eat and work and put clothes on their back and give their kids an education......stuff that we take for granted.
How much food do we as North Americans waste??

[sadaist]

Yeah someone has painted 3 million elephants with invisible ink and that's why we can't see them any more... :)


You wanna paint a lot of elephants....you gotta have a lot of ink


STAY FROSTY!

[sadaist]

What do Timex watches and elephants have in common?




























They both come in quarts(z).

[sadaist]

Thread time of death: 6:13 pm March 23, 2012

Cause: 1980's bad elephant joke

Suspect: Member #6381

Services: None planned

[moose]

[QUOTE=sadaist;1633835]Thread time of death: 6:13 pm March 23, 2012

Cause: 1980's bad elephant joke

Suspect: Member #6381

Services: None planned[/

Well at the least we can provide some
Music.......
:-)