"Family Research Council" dumbass blames the gays for Colombian prostitution scandal

[FORD]

Tony Perkins blames Secret Service Prostitution Scandal on the Repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell
Submitted by Brian Tashman on Tue, 04/17/2012 - 11:30am

Yesterday Janet Mefferd hosted Family Research Council president Tony Perkins where they spent most of the time lamenting the inevitable nomination of Mitt Romney, as Mefferd was troubled by Romney’s past (but since renounced) support of gay rights. But the two agreed that Obama’s advocacy for equal rights for gays and lesbians is far more disconcerting and Perkins even tied last year’s repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell to the scandal involving Secret Service agents who solicited prostitutes in Colombia. While prostitution is legal in the country, their use of prostitutes had the potential to compromise the President’s security. Perkins claimed that since the President has been “enforcing open homosexuality in our military” then he should not have been “upset” about the prostitution scandal, maintaining that Don’t Ask Don’t Tell’s repeal led to “a total breakdown” in “moral order”:

Mefferd: You know one issue that I think has not gotten as much attention as it deserves to get is the homosexuality issue. A lot of people have talked about Mitt Romney and what he did with the gay marriage issue and so forth in Massachusetts, but even Politico and the New York Times have talked a lot about the increasing number of top Republicans who are donating to pro-gay causes, the extent to which the GOP doesn’t want to fight on this issue anymore. But we as Christians can’t stand stop fighting on this issue, Tony, so what do we do when we’re faced with a race where maybe we feel like the candidates are way too similar on this and both of them are wrong?

Perkins: Yeah, you know that’s a great point. Just for a moment step back and look at the implications of this, over the weekend we saw the news of the President’s Secret Service detail in Colombia and the issue of them hiring prostitutes and now the White House is outraged about that. Actually in a meeting this morning my staff asked, ‘why should the President be upset’? It was actually legal; it was legal there to do that, so why should we be upset? Well, the fact is we intuitively know it’s wrong, there’s a moral law against that.

The same is true for what the President has done to the military enforcing open homosexuality in our military. You can change the law but you can’t change the moral law that’s behind it. You can change the positive law, the law that is created by man, but you can’t change the moral law, it’s wrong. So what you have is you have a total breakdown and you can’t pick and choose. Morality is not a smorgasbord; you can’t pick what you want. I think you’re absolutely right, this is a fundamental issue going forward because if we say ‘let them do what we want,’ what’s next? You cannot maintain moral order if you are willing to allow a few things to slide.

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"enforcing open homosexuality"?? What the fuck does that even mean, Norman Bates???

Link (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/tony-perkins-secret-service-dont-ask-dont-tell)

[jhale667]

What an idiot. Everyone know's it's Sophia Vergara's fault....


This quote sums it up: "But we as Christians can’t stand stop fighting on this issue" - yeah, keep standing up for intolerance, and trying to make false equivalencies, f*cktards. :rolleyes:

[Nitro Express]

The whole scandal could very well be bullshit and another cooked up red herring. I was talking to a retired FBI special agent about this and he says the kind of background check one has to go through to be on the presidential security team is about a thorough as it can be. Adultry is considered a security risk and can get you booted out of the Secret Service. I mean these guys are screened and they aren't going to be the ones who are going to be involved with prostitutes and parties on such a level. I'm calling bullshit on this one. I buy this one about as much as I buy them getting Osama Bin Laden. Where's the proof? With Obama I want proof because his whole administration are nothing but a bunch of crooks and liars. I believe this about as much as I believe in Bush' "Weapons of mass destruction".

I see it as nothing more than a corrupt, desperate White House trying to slander one of this country's long-standing security agencies. The Secret Service never had this level of problems before Obama, strange that they would suddenly have it now. The president probably wants to take control of that organization and run it the way he sees fit and fill it full of a bunch of his cronies.

This shit is so third world is laughable.

[jhale667]

I see it as nothing more than a corrupt, desperate White House trying to slander one of this country's long-standing security agencies. The Secret Service never had this level of problems before Obama, strange that they would suddenly have it now. The president probably wants to take control of that organization and run it the way he sees fit and fill it full of a bunch of his cronies.




...And with THAT, ladies and gentleman, a new conspiracy theory is hatched... :hee:


Really - you think the POTUS would want to have to quickly replace 11 members of the entourage that was supposed to be prepping the place for his arrival on short notice? Was the hooker that complained over the $60 discrepancy a CIA operative?

[FORD]

Irony there is that Mark Sullivan, the guy running the Secret Service is a Chimpointee......

Though a Colombian hooker on the BCE/CIA payroll wouldn't be out of the question, considering how involved the BCE/CIA is in the "local agriculture".

[Nitro Express]

If the Secret Service is that far gone how come problems like this haven't showed up before? Loose women have always been used as tools to compromise security. Nothing new there. All I know is people who know what kind of background checks are required even to get these kind of jobs are saying bullshit on this one. Maybe one or two agents go off the deep end but 11? You are talking the inner security around the US President here. One thing they screen even to get into the service is how likely you are to be involved in such shenanigans. Such people can be blackmailed and compromised. The last kind of people the Secret Service wants to hire are people who think with their dicks. It's one reason security agencies like to hire conservative, religious family oriented people who are less likely to play around.

[jhale667]

If the Secret Service is that far gone how come problems like this haven't showed up before?

Who says it hasn't, and this is the first we've ever heard of it? That's the thing about this incident - had the hooker NOT complained, no way would we know about it...and they were so calm and routine about it the implication is this type of activity has occurred before.

[BITEYOASS]

This is what happens when you hire former Navy sailors into the Secret Service. :lmao:

[Nickdfresh]

So, "homosexuality bad, potential sex trafficking and slavery goooodddd." Mongoloid right wing christian fucknuts!

[BigBadBrian]

FORD, the forum fag, posts yet another story that offends his ilk. Too pathetic.

[jhale667]

Brie is living proof that the dudes who are the most homophobic are the ones compensating for, and repressing their own hunger for da KACK.... and Brie sees gay people ...EVERYWHERE...EVEN IN THE MIRROR...:turninggay:



:lmao:

[binnie]

I've never understood why people are against homosexuals.........just can't understand the prejudice.

[Seshmeister]

[Nitro Express]

I've never understood why people are against homosexuals.........just can't understand the prejudice.

I don't mind homosexuals who are decent enough to realize they don't have to shove their sex life in everyone's face and think they are extra special. I tire of the ones who think they are extra special, want extra special treatment and they are going to shove their whole agenda down your throat.

[Seshmeister]

Do you still agree with your post if you replace the word 'homosexuals' with 'people'?

Do you like heterosexuals that do that?

[Nitro Express]

It applies to everyone. And frankly, people have forgotten there is a time and place for everything. I'm tired of people spouting off regarding things in public that really aren't appropriate. I say leave it in the bedroom. Kids don't need to hear it and frankly the kids are smarter than the adults are. Think about it. If you were a little kid and saw two dudes getting married you would think they were fucking nuts and wonder what in the hell was wrong with them. If society really thinks this in normal behavior then society has gone nuts.

Someone with a lot of money and influence is pushing the whole agenda. Think about it. When we want to label someone as lame like Sammy Hagar we call them gay. It's true. The majority of people don't view it as normal behavior. I think many of us view it as a mental illness or maybe just over the top freaky deekness. Hey if they want to get married then why not but then just the fact we are even having serious debates over such a thing shows just how far gone society is. We can't even define what a family is anymore without getting all strung out.

Frankly in general, I really have no respect for the human race.

[Unchainme]

I've never understood why people are against homosexuals.........just can't understand the prejudice.

Eliminates the competition. ;). One less guy I have to worry about going after a girl I could be with.

[Angel]

If you were a little kid and saw two dudes getting married you would think they were fucking nuts and wonder what in the hell was wrong with them.

You'd only think that if that was what your parents had taught you.

My son went to school with a girl with 2 moms. When he asked about it, we explained. He understood, no big deal.

It's not normal according to your ethno-centric standards. Many cultures have a third gender. So yeah, it is normal, just not to YOUR culture.

[Unchainme]

Think about it. If you were a little kid and saw two dudes getting married you would think they were fucking nuts and wonder what in the hell was wrong with them. If society really thinks this in normal behavior then society has gone nuts.

It's going to come up sooner or later. We're a lot more open of a society, for better or worse. There's a lot more kids growing up with two moms/two dads, things like that. It ain't the 50's anymore.

It maybe abnormal, but it's not..uncommon, and I think that the people involved should be treated with the same respect you'd show to someone with a more traditional home life.

So long as the kids not getting beat, and the parents are you know, good parents? See no issue with it.

[jhale667]

I've never understood why people are against homosexuals.........just can't understand the prejudice.

It's stupid. I work with quite a few LBGT people, and guess what - they're just like anyone else pretty much. Never had an issue with anybody and I've been at this gig for 7 years (this week actually). It's the people who project it onto others (and are serious - like Brie - rather than joking about it) and that are worried about their "agenda" that are the ones who in reality hate themselves for their own repressed urges. I don't get the insinuation they're more likely to be kid-didlers either, as statistically that's usually more straight guys doing that. Or that they shouldn't be allowed to adopt...one of my co-workers was raised by a lesbian couple and she is not only completely well-adjusted and normal, but grew up hetro and is now a great mom herself. And how is letting gay people marry going to ruin the supposed "sanctity" of traditional marriage - y'know, the type that fails at an over 50% ratio?? It's not.


Most people's objections to them are ignorance & hate-based, and have little or no basis in reality.

[FORD]

Eliminates the competition. ;). One less guy I have to worry about going after a girl I could be with.

Exactly.... now Lesbians, on the other hand are more of a threat. At least the ones who won't share :eatit:

[FORD]

I don't mind homosexuals who are decent enough to realize they don't have to shove their sex life in everyone's face and think they are extra special. I tire of the ones who think they are extra special, want extra special treatment and they are going to shove their whole agenda down your throat.

And why are homophobes always worried about something being "in their face" or "down your throat" ?

[Etienne]

The question will always be, should LBGT people have the same rights?

[Seshmeister]

Think about it. If you were a little kid and saw two dudes getting married you would think they were fucking nuts and wonder what in the hell was wrong with them. If society really thinks this in normal behavior then society has gone nuts.


I've thought about it and I don't think it's nuts at all.

Why are a man and a woman allowed to get married when they are over 50? Is that nuts?

[Nitro Express]

It's going to come up sooner or later. We're a lot more open of a society, for better or worse. There's a lot more kids growing up with two moms/two dads, things like that. It ain't the 50's anymore.

It maybe abnormal, but it's not..uncommon, and I think that the people involved should be treated with the same respect you'd show to someone with a more traditional home life.

So long as the kids not getting beat, and the parents are you know, good parents? See no issue with it.

Society is falling apart because the normal family unit has fallen apart. We are seeing the result of too much divorce. Parents neglecting children so they can make more money. Spoiling children to outdo the other parent or to compensate for lousy parenting.

Once you have weak homes, you have weak communities, and a weak country. Now the insanity comes to roost that being raised by two gay parents is somehow normal.

Take a good look folks, the society you live in is falling apart. Your banking system is falling apart. Your government is falling apart. The areas with the most disfunctional family structures are the worst hit. When the kids don't know who daddy is, the state provides the food stamps, and they live with grandma, the school drop out rate is huge and where is that leading? Do you honestly think that is sustainable or easily repaired?

More open society? Please. Let's just call it insane society. You might have a few isolated cases of some decent gay couple raising some decent kids but are they really going to be that normal? Can you raise a whole community that way?

I don't see it working.

[jhale667]

The question will always be, should LBGT people have the same rights?

OF COURSE they should. Why not? Again, there's no "sanctity" in traditional marriage, nor is gay marriage responsible for "the (supposed) breakdown of society." People love who they love, bottom line. And there's something wrong in the world when someone's S.O. that they've been with for years - longer than some hetro relationships last - gets ill and they can't visit them in the hospital, or have any legal rights because they're the same sex.

Gay marriage is like abortion - don't like it? Don't get one. But you're an idiot if you want to be able to dictate wheter someone else can or can't. It doesn't effect you in ANY way.

[jhale667]

might have a few isolated cases of some decent gay couple raising some decent kids but are they really going to be that normal?

That's a completely asinine statement predicated by the arrogant assumption that the majority of gay couples aren't "decent". There's a f*ck-ton of straight couples that shouldn't have reproduced.

[Nitro Express]

Yeah but two gay people can't produce offspring. I don't know if you ever noticed but women and men are different. When a child gets hurt they cry for mommy not daddy. It's more than just dicks and vaginas. Women are more nurturing and wired completely different. It's nature. It's the way things are. Gay marriage is a trend. If someone seriously mentioned it 20 years ago you would be a laughing stock. Why? The whole idea is insane and don't even get started on a gay couple raising children and thinking that is really appropriate. It's a fucking freak show. Who is arrogant is people thinking their little trends that are currently hip are going to stand up to nature itself. I'm sure some decadent society in the past tried gay marriage at one time and it failed as well. There have always been gay people. History is full of them. Show me one fully openly gay society that ever lasted. They don't.

[FORD]

That's a completely asinine statement predicated by the arrogant assumption that the majority of gay couples aren't "decent". There's a f*ck-ton of straight couples that shouldn't have reproduced.

Like for example........

http://media.naplesnews.com/media/img/photos/2011/02/09/President_George_H.W._Bush_and_Mrs._Barbara_Bush_N DN_t607.jpg

[Etienne]

Again, there's no "sanctity" in traditional marriage, nor is gay marriage responsible for "the (supposed) breakdown of society."

I agree with that.

[FORD]

Yeah but two gay people can't produce offspring. I don't know if you ever noticed but women and men are different. When a child gets hurt they cry for mommy not daddy. It's more than just dicks and vaginas. Women are more nurturing and wired completely different. It's nature. It's the way things are. Gay marriage is a trend. If someone seriously mentioned it 20 years ago you would be a laughing stock. Why? The whole idea is insane and don't even get started on a gay couple raising children and thinking that is really appropriate. It's a fucking freak show. Who is arrogant is people thinking their little trends that are currently hip are going to stand up to nature itself. I'm sure some decadent society in the past tried gay marriage at one time and it failed as well. There have always been gay people. History is full of them. Show me one fully openly gay society that ever lasted. They don't.

When the fuck did you turn into Fred Phelps. Geezus, was there a third killer in the Matthew Sheppard murder that we didn't know about?

Seriously, you claim to have left the Mormon cult behind, but obviously the programming is still there.

[jhale667]

Yeah but two gay people can't produce offspring. I don't know if you ever noticed but women and men are different. When a child gets hurt they cry for mommy not daddy. It's more than just dicks and vaginas. Women are more nurturing and wired completely different. It's nature. It's the way things are. Gay marriage is a trend. If someone seriously mentioned it 20 years ago you would be a laughing stock. Why? The whole idea is insane and don't even get started on a gay couple raising children and thinking that is really appropriate. It's a fucking freak show. Who is arrogant is people thinking their little trends that are currently hip are going to stand up to nature itself. I'm sure some decadent society in the past tried gay marriage at one time and it failed as well. There have always been gay people. History is full of them. Show me one fully openly gay society that ever lasted. They don't.


Again, do you know anyone who was raised by gay parents? Betting you don't, or you wouldn't say stupid sh*t like that...

[Etienne]

LBGT people are a "product" by nature like everybody else. And they should have the same rights.

[Angel]

Yeah but two gay people can't produce offspring. I don't know if you ever noticed but women and men are different. When a child gets hurt they cry for mommy not daddy. It's more than just dicks and vaginas. Women are more nurturing and wired completely different. It's nature. It's the way things are. Gay marriage is a trend. If someone seriously mentioned it 20 years ago you would be a laughing stock. Why? The whole idea is insane and don't even get started on a gay couple raising children and thinking that is really appropriate. It's a fucking freak show. Who is arrogant is people thinking their little trends that are currently hip are going to stand up to nature itself. I'm sure some decadent society in the past tried gay marriage at one time and it failed as well. There have always been gay people. History is full of them. Show me one fully openly gay society that ever lasted. They don't.

There have always been and always will be gay people because we're fucking wired that way. It's the way God, or nature, or chemistry, or whatever made us.

Kids cry for their moms because that's the gender role that's been taught them. In homes where the dad stays at home, it's daddy they cry for.

Many cultures accept and include a third gender. Two-spirits were revered in many First Nation communities until the missionaries showed up. Same with Polynesian's, who still have third gendered people. They take part in the raising of children, the whole community does.

For fucks sake, the only issues that kids raised by gays have are the one's caused by discriminatory people who raise their kids to bully those who are different.

[DONNIEP]

What was it Dave said..."I'm all for gay marriage, as long as both chicks are hot!" :)

[BigBadBrian]

Brie is living proof that the dudes who are the most homophobic are the ones compensating for, and repressing their own hunger for da KACK.... and Brie sees gay people ...EVERYWHERE...EVEN IN THE MIRROR...:turninggay:



:lmao:

I also see one on here with the username jhale667, but I digress.... :biggrin:

Do you wish to put forth the fact that those of us that disapprove of homosexuality are intolerant and just downright wrong in our opinion of the matter? Why? For what reason? What's your justification? No flaming (no pun intended), just facts. Fire.

Oh another thing, enough with your projectionist psychobabble...you don't know the first thing about it.

[jhale667]

I also see one on here with the username jhale667, but I digress.... :biggrin:

Do you wish to put forth the fact that those of us that disapprove of homosexuality are intolerant and just downright wrong in our opinion of the matter? Why? For what reason? What's your justification? No flaming (no pun intended), just facts. Fire.

Oh another thing, enough with your projectionist psychobabble...you don't know the first thing about it.


Riiiight. You're NOT the textbook example of it, as if the way you (pitifully) interact with the women on the board also wasn't an idication of the fact that you aren't into girls. No one says you have to like gay people (and thus yourself), dude but you DO have to tolerate them whether you like it or not unless you never leave your van by the river. And besides, WTF did they ever do to you - besides y'know, have better manners, be nicer more normal people, and likely more fashion sense? :lmao: Not a goddamned thing.

So more to the point, how do you justify the intolerance and outright hatred you express daily on this board - especially when you then try to turn around and lecture people about values and try to act like you're so pious? You're a hypocrite and a hater, dude. That's not flaming - that's FACT. You can't even begin to justify your hatred...and yes, I think you're closeted - and you're clearly self-loathing, which is why you've NEVER had a positive thing to say around here not about VH, not about anything - you only show up to rip on others in the vain hope it makes you feel better about your own miserable life. Too bad it doesn't - sucks to be you! :baaa:

[BigBadBrian]

Riiiight. You're NOT the textbook example of it, as if the way you (pitifully) interact with the women on the board also wasn't an idication of the fact that you aren't into girls. No one says you have to like gay people (and thus yourself), dude but you DO have to tolerate them whether you like it or not unless you never leave your van by the river. And besides, WTF did they ever do to you - besides y'know, have better manners, be nicer more normal people, and likely more fashion sense? :lmao: Not a goddamned thing.

So more to the point, how do you justify the intolerance and outright hatred you express daily on this board - especially when you then try to turn around and lecture people about values and try to act like you're so pious? You're a hypocrite and a hater, dude. That's not flaming - that's FACT. You can't even begin to justify your hatred...and yes, I think you're closeted - and you're clearly self-loathing, which is why you've NEVER had a positive thing to say around here not about VH, not about anything - you only show up to rip on others in the vain hope it makes you feel better about your own miserable life. Too bad it doesn't - sucks to be you! :baaa:

No, my life doesn't suck, though I can tell you're very unhappy and intolerant of those that don't agree with you. Too bad. You take a rock-n-rtoll message board Waaaayyyyy too seriously.

No, i never said I'm the pious one...YOU DID....with your insults against those that don't believe like you and particularly those of the Christian faith with whom you obviously feel threatened. Just like this silly thread, those of you on the Left try to box Christians into a nice neat little package as all being the same but get upset when the same is done to you. Hypocrite.

I don't hate homosexuals (or you, for that matter), but i don't agree with their lifestyle, don't feel it is normal, and feel they are to be pitied, not hated. You're right, I may have to tolerate them in society but that doesn't make how they live right in my book.

As for my interaction with the women on this board: I'm happily married to a beautiful woman, have been so for close to 25 years, and do not feel the need to try to date the women on here like some people do. I guess having "virtual" female friends makes them feel more masculine, for whatever reason. The women that have entered the Frontline have gotten the same treatment anyone else has: they were treated politely by myself until I wasn't treated nicely by them. Actually, with one, the female was the first one to start the insults and profanity towards me without me having said one word to them. That was Kristy. There were more men that did the same thing, though...start in with the verbal daggers right away. There are a few females like Ally Kat that were primarily chased off of here because they got tired of all the misogynist insults by those of you on the Left. I don't entirely blame you...Nick, Lounge, FORD, Demon Cunt (an alias for some coward on here), Sesh, and a few others bear the blame as well.

You made a lot of assumptions about my life and how i feel and other nonsense. I'll tell you one thing: you don't know anything about me and i can't help but pity you for that. I say that because it seems you took glimpses of your own life and try to tack them on others you don't agree with. You've done that to others as well. How sad. You obviously feel others that don't think, walk, and talk like you have it bad. You're way off base.

[Nickdfresh]

Society is falling apart because the normal family unit has fallen apart. We are seeing the result of too much divorce. Parents neglecting children so they can make more money. Spoiling children to outdo the other parent or to compensate for lousy parenting.

Once you have weak homes, you have weak communities, and a weak country. Now the insanity comes to roost that being raised by two gay parents is somehow normal. ....


Based on what?

Teen pregnancy rates hit 40 year low

Fewer teens are getting pregnant now, than at any point in the last 40 years, says a new report.

Researchers at the Guttmacher Institute, a sexual and reproductive health think tank, say the pregnancy rate among teens is down 42%, from 116.9 pregnancies per 1,000 women in 1990, to 67.8 pregnancies per 1,000 women in 2008. This means about 7% of young women between the ages of 15 to 19 became pregnant in the United States in 2008.

"The 30-plus years of rates that we have, have been showing a very steady decline," said Kathryn Kost, a senior research associate at Guttmacher, and the lead author on the paper. "Rates now, from 2008 are at the lowest levels we ever seen since we started reporting them."

Kost also says the teen birth rate – the number of actual babies born to teenage moms - was down 35% as well; and the abortion rate among teens dropped almost 60% from its peak in 1988.
...

http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/09/fewer-teens-getting-pregnant-having-abortions-study-shows/

[Nickdfresh]

Yeah but two gay people can't produce offspring.....

If there's one thing the world needs--it's more offspring!

[Nickdfresh]

....
As for my interaction with the women on this board: I'm happily married to a beautiful woman, have been so for close to 25 years, and do not feel the need to try to date the women on here like some people do. I guess having "virtual" female friends makes them feel more masculine, for whatever reason. The women that have entered the Frontline have gotten the same treatment anyone else has: they were treated politely by myself until I wasn't treated nicely by them. Actually, with one, the female was the first one to start the insults and profanity towards me without me having said one word to them. That was Kristy. There were more men that did the same thing, though...start in with the verbal daggers right away. There are a few females like Ally Kat that were primarily chased off of here because they got tired of all the misogynist insults by those of you on the Left. I don't entirely blame you...Nick, Lounge, FORD, Demon Cunt (an alias for some coward on here), Sesh, and a few others bear the blame as well.
....

Dear BigDoucheBagBrian,

Please go fuck yourself with a miter saw. Who the fuck are you to speak for Ally_Kat and throw out several "liberal" poster names here that supposedly drove her off? The vast majority were actually friends of her here. Myself and her, we disagreed but respectfully so and there was more than one time I defended against board stalkers. Oh, and how ironic the guy that used the word "classy" and claims to be a "Christian" is the one who mocked a female poster over the suicide of her sister. With "Christians" like you, who need Satan?

You cunt...

[mug]

amen to that. We should be limited to 2 or 3 thats it.

[FORD]

There are a few females like Ally Kat that were primarily chased off of here because they got tired of all the misogynist insults by those of you on the Left. I don't entirely blame you...Nick, Lounge, FORD, Demon Cunt (an alias for some coward on here), Sesh, and a few others bear the blame as well.


You're going to have to dig pretty deep up your own ass to find any "misogynist insults" ever coming from me. Towards ANY woman, and certainly not towards Ally Kat. Who is one of the few Republicans here I actually miss, and wish she would check in once in a while :(

[Nickdfresh]

I tried sending her an email a few weeks back, no dice. Hope she's well...

[Seshmeister]

There are a few females like Ally Kat that were primarily chased off of here because they got tired of all the misogynist insults by those of you on the Left. I don't entirely blame you...Nick, Lounge, FORD, Demon Cunt (an alias for some coward on here), Sesh, and a few others bear the blame as well.


The big fucking advantage of this being a message board is that it's all fucking documented in black and white going back many years.

If only real life was so simple.

So Brian I want you to link or show these misogynist insults to Ally that drove her off in particular a single one from me or fucking apologise or even better just fucking leave.

You have gone personal on a daily basis here. You've slung insults and my family and kids many times which I haven't taken the bait with and you won't find anything similar back even though it would be very justified so fuck off with the passive aggressive bullshit.

[jhale667]

No, my life doesn't suck, though I can tell you're very unhappy and intolerant of those that don't agree with you. Too bad. You take a rock-n-rtoll message board Waaaayyyyy too seriously.

No, i never said I'm the pious one...YOU DID....with your insults against those that don't believe like you and particularly those of the Christian faith with whom you obviously feel threatened. Just like this silly thread, those of you on the Left try to box Christians into a nice neat little package as all being the same but get upset when the same is done to you. Hypocrite.

I don't hate homosexuals (or you, for that matter), but i don't agree with their lifestyle, don't feel it is normal, and feel they are to be pitied, not hated. You're right, I may have to tolerate them in society but that doesn't make how they live right in my book.

As for my interaction with the women on this board: I'm happily married to a beautiful woman, have been so for close to 25 years, and do not feel the need to try to date the women on here like some people do. I guess having "virtual" female friends makes them feel more masculine, for whatever reason. The women that have entered the Frontline have gotten the same treatment anyone else has: they were treated politely by myself until I wasn't treated nicely by them. Actually, with one, the female was the first one to start the insults and profanity towards me without me having said one word to them. That was Kristy. There were more men that did the same thing, though...start in with the verbal daggers right away. There are a few females like Ally Kat that were primarily chased off of here because they got tired of all the misogynist insults by those of you on the Left. I don't entirely blame you...Nick, Lounge, FORD, Demon Cunt (an alias for some coward on here), Sesh, and a few others bear the blame as well.

You made a lot of assumptions about my life and how i feel and other nonsense. I'll tell you one thing: you don't know anything about me and i can't help but pity you for that. I say that because it seems you took glimpses of your own life and try to tack them on others you don't agree with. You've done that to others as well. How sad. You obviously feel others that don't think, walk, and talk like you have it bad. You're way off base.

As defensive as you got, sure doesn't sound like it... :lmao:
Any assumptions made (and you sure make a lot of them, don't you) can only be based on your shit posting style, not "glimpses of their own life" though I'm sure thinking that makes you feel better about yourself- but nope- it's all you - deal with it. No one needs or wants your pity, so kindly get the fuck over yourself. You're right about one thing - I'm intolerant of those who disagree with me on an issue - and can't articulate a legitimate reason why. Perhaps you should try to sometime, rather than your usual "liberal/fag/cunt" routine, huh Schecky?

But how the F do you figure anyone that calls out blatantly hateful fake-ass christians - or the just plain stupidity of bigots and homophobes - feel "threatened", idiot? Try "repulsed".

But back on topic - Much to your chagrin, your disapproval of someone's lifestyle doesn't give you the right to deny theirs. Or blame them for the downfall of western civilization, or Secret Service dudes getting hookers...

[Dr. Love]

I touched base with Ally a few months ago. Facebook suddenly suggested her as a friend for me, out of nowhere, for no reason. It was a truly big brother moment for me. No friends in common, no explicable way they knew.

Now I wonder if some of you tards are the people that facebook has been suggesting lately that I don't recognize.

[FORD]

Not me. I don't have a Facebook account. Not in any hurry to get one either.

[Seshmeister]

I touched base with Ally a few months ago. Facebook suddenly suggested her as a friend for me, out of nowhere, for no reason. It was a truly big brother moment for me. No friends in common, no explicable way they knew.

Now I wonder if some of you tards are the people that facebook has been suggesting lately that I don't recognize.


One of you must have used the same email address to email one another that you registered there with.

It happened to me a couple of times, it's weird.

[jhale667]

Ally's awesome, I miss her too. :(
And yeah, I'd love to see links to all these alleged "liberal misogynist" posts...won't happen. ;)

[Va Beach VH Fan]

But to get back on topic..... :D

You guys are being pretty naive if you think that men grabbing hookers doesn't happen everywhere while on the road, in every facet of business....

Granted, it's alarming when the Secret Service got caught doing it, just saying, this is NOT uncommon at all....

[FORD]

Well the only reason we even know about this shit is because one of these bozos tried to bid down the price for "services rendered". I'll bet the plane ride home was very uncomfortable for that cheap bastard :biggrin:

[jhale667]

But to get back on topic..... :D

You guys are being pretty naive if you think that men grabbing hookers doesn't happen everywhere while on the road, in every facet of business....

Granted, it's alarming when the Secret Service got caught doing it, just saying, this is NOT uncommon at all....

I'm sure it happens quite a bit, but don't you expect a certain level of professionalism from the Secret Service, particularly the detail in charge of prepping for an impending POTUS visit? Like, if they HAD to do it, they'd at least have the good sense not to quibble about the price? They're idiots.

[BigBadBrian]

Dear BigDoucheBagBrian,

Please go fuck yourself with a miter saw. Who the fuck are you to speak for Ally_Kat and throw out several "liberal" poster names here that supposedly drove her off? The vast majority were actually friends of her here. Myself and her, we disagreed but respectfully so and there was more than one time I defended against board stalkers. Oh, and how ironic the guy that used the word "classy" and claims to be a "Christian" is the one who mocked a female poster over the suicide of her sister. With "Christians" like you, who need Satan?

You cunt...

Truth hurts, huh? :fighting0056:

[BigBadBrian]

Ally's awesome, I miss her too. :(
And yeah, I'd love to see links to all these alleged "liberal misogynist" posts...won't happen. ;)

I had a few saved, but i don't even think the board goes back that far anymore. I had ALOT of stuff linked and saved but am no longer using that PC...I use Macs exclusively now. As a side note, I'd recommend Macs over PC's to anyone.

Anyhow, besides direct insults to other board members, how do you think women feel when the phrases you use to supposedly dispute such people as Sarah Palin and Jan Brewer are things like "stupid cunt", "ignorant bitch" and like phrases? Don't you think that has some effect of chasing women of all political persuasions out of here?

I'll admit, I've gotten venomous with my language on here at times, most of which I regret. Nick pointed out the insult I threw at Kristy one time. It was disgusting and I do regret it. I wish I could apologize to her in person, though I know that'll never happen. I've actually debated sending a PM to her...maybe sometime...when I get the words right. Sesh pointed out a time where I got pretty low with him also, which I also regret. Sesh, I hope everything is well with you.

I'm certainly not innocent in all of this but most of the regular long time posters that have have posted in this thread, with probably the exception of Va Beach VH Fan, share in the guilt also. I suspect we'd all be a lot more civil over our disagreements in person. As for me, I'm done...with all the hyper-attack language that is. I'll be the one to extend an olive branch to everyone else. Feel free to call me out on it if I revert to old habits. Peace to all of you.

[binnie]

There is no such thing as a 'normal' family unit (which people who invoke it usually mean 1 man + 1 woman + children).

It is just not a tenable proposition historically.

[Nickdfresh]

Truth hurts, huh? :fighting0056:

Well, you must be pain-free then being so full of shit....

[Angel]

I've had more arguments with BBB than many. One of the reasons I don't go in the Front Line very often anymore.

I've been attacked, my family members have been attacked...the shit goes on and on. He's an internet bully. When I was in an abusive marriage, I would seek him out to battle, my way of being able to fight back and not get punched in the head, I suppose.

BBB has NO respect for women, and he is a sexist racist pig. I can only imagine that he is abusive towards his wife...at least verbally and emotionally if not physically, judging by remarks I have read on these boards.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

I'm sure it happens quite a bit, but don't you expect a certain level of professionalism from the Secret Service, particularly the detail in charge of prepping for an impending POTUS visit? Like, if they HAD to do it, they'd at least have the good sense not to quibble about the price? They're idiots.

Well, a couple of things...

Yes, they deserve the embarrassment they're getting over not paying the girl.... That's just "Picking Up Hookers 101"..... ;)

But also, it's not like the SS didn't have anyone on duty at the time these guys were getting their collective helmets shined....

[DONNIEP]

The real question is this: Why in the hell would you want to short change a hooker that's this freaking hot?????



http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy59/DONNIEP5150/Colombian-escort-NYDN-620x478.jpg

[ZahZoo]

This thread is nothin without pics... More of the Ho that brought down the SS...

http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2012/04/image-1_full.jpg

http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2012/04/image-3_full.jpg

http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2012/04/image-2_full.jpg

[DONNIEP]

That'd be worth 200 bucks.

[jhale667]

Anyhow, besides direct insults to other board members, how do you think women feel when the phrases you use to supposedly dispute such people as Sarah Palin and Jan Brewer are things like "stupid cunt", "ignorant bitch" and like phrases? Don't you think that has some effect of chasing women of all political persuasions out of here?



You really think any of the women posting here took us slagging an obviously ignorant psycho political hack like Palin as commentary on ALL women? That's not giving them much credit for brains, but it's not surprising considering the source. The women of the Roth Army are way tougher (and smarter) than you'd like to think.


But back on topic - imagining the SS agent that haggled with that girl got the beat sh*t out of him by the 10 other dudes he took down with his cheapness on or shortly after the flight home.... some of them have already resigned.

[jhale667]

That'd be worth 200 bucks.

She's kind of a butterface, but from the neck down she's perfect... (he posted, no doubt offending some thin-skinned imaginary female RA poster in Brie's world) :hee:

[DONNIEP]

She's kind of a butterface, but from the neck down she's perfect... (he posted, no doubt offending some thin-skinned imaginary female RA poster in Brie's world) :hee:

Nah man, it's not the face - it's the eyes that are throwing off her looks. But for 200 bucks I'm sure she'd leave the shades on :)

[jhale667]

Nah man, it's not the face - it's the eyes that are throwing off her looks. But for 200 bucks I'm sure she'd leave the shades on :)


Oh, I'll bet she's totally accommodating like that... ;) Hmmm, think you're right about it being her eyes, though...

[BigBadBrian]

I've had more arguments with BBB than many. One of the reasons I don't go in the Front Line very often anymore.

I've been attacked, my family members have been attacked...the shit goes on and on. He's an internet bully. When I was in an abusive marriage, I would seek him out to battle, my way of being able to fight back and not get punched in the head, I suppose.

BBB has NO respect for women, and he is a sexist racist pig. I can only imagine that he is abusive towards his wife...at least verbally and emotionally if not physically, judging by remarks I have read on these boards.

Another bitter poster that's way out in Left field. You're not your username...you're no innocent shrinking violet in this matter. You're also quite wrong about my attitude towards women: I don't have respect for SOME women, certainly not all. You always did like to paint with a broad brush.

[DONNIEP]

JHALE - how long do you think it's gonna take before we get ripped for turning this thread into a hooker review? :thumb:

[Angel]

You really think any of the women posting here took us slagging an obviously ignorant psycho political hack like Palin as commentary on ALL women? That's not giving them much credit for brains, but it's not surprising considering the source. The women of the Roth Army are way tougher (and smarter) than you'd like to think.

How ironic BBB's post is. Wish I could do a count of every time he's called me a "cunt" on these boards.

Back to topic... you'd never get a hooker that looks like that up here for $200... idiots should have just paid up and enjoyed the ride...

[DONNIEP]

Back to topic... you'd never get a hooker that looks like that up here for $200... idiots should have just paid up and enjoyed the ride...

That's exactly what I was thinking! 200 bucks?? She's priced low enough that you could include her in your very own Van Halen show night VIP package!

[jhale667]

How ironic BBB's post is. Wish I could do a count of every time he's called me a "cunt" on these boards.

Nice (albeit failed) attempt at revisionist history, don't you think? ;)




Back to topic... you'd never get a hooker that looks like that up here for $200... idiots should have just paid up and enjoyed the ride...


Wouldn't know, have never paid for it (in advance, y'know...lol). But totally agree, what was that dude thinking?

[Guitar Shark]

I had a few saved, but i don't even think the board goes back that far anymore. I had ALOT of stuff linked and saved but am no longer using that PC...I use Macs exclusively now. As a side note, I'd recommend Macs over PC's to anyone.

Anyhow, besides direct insults to other board members, how do you think women feel when the phrases you use to supposedly dispute such people as Sarah Palin and Jan Brewer are things like "stupid cunt", "ignorant bitch" and like phrases? Don't you think that has some effect of chasing women of all political persuasions out of here?

I'll admit, I've gotten venomous with my language on here at times, most of which I regret. Nick pointed out the insult I threw at Kristy one time. It was disgusting and I do regret it. I wish I could apologize to her in person, though I know that'll never happen. I've actually debated sending a PM to her...maybe sometime...when I get the words right. Sesh pointed out a time where I got pretty low with him also, which I also regret. Sesh, I hope everything is well with you.

I'm certainly not innocent in all of this but most of the regular long time posters that have have posted in this thread, with probably the exception of Va Beach VH Fan, share in the guilt also. I suspect we'd all be a lot more civil over our disagreements in person. As for me, I'm done...with all the hyper-attack language that is. I'll be the one to extend an olive branch to everyone else. Feel free to call me out on it if I revert to old habits. Peace to all of you.

LOL!! Who hacked Brian's account?