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John Ashcroft
06-18-2004, 03:50 PM
John Kerry, the Democratic Party’s presumptive nominee for President of the United States, has been caught stealing from the American taxpayers – and he should be ashamed of himself.

Title 2, Section 39, of the United States Code clearly states that “[t]he Secretary of the Senate ... shall deduct from the [salary] of each Member ... the amount of his salary for each day that he has been absent from the Senate ... unless such Member ... assigns as the reason for such absence the sickness of himself or of some member of his family."

The plain and unambiguous meaning of this statute is that a Senator who misses work doesn’t get paid – just like ordinary Americans. Unfortunately, the Secretary of the Senate, Ms. Emily Reynolds, has improperly, and inappropriately, declined to carry out her statutory duty – i.e. to dock the pay of Senators who miss work. When pressed, Ms. Reynolds explained, in a response to a letter by David Keene of the Carmen Group, that since her predecessors in the position failed to carry out the law, she won’t either. This reasoning is absurd – and unlawful.

An officer of the Senate is bound by the law as it applies to that officer. When the law states that an officer of the Senate “shall” do something, that officer is bound to carry out the mandate of the law. If individuals were free to ignore the law as they pleased, our society would fall apart. The Secretary of the Senate is no exception – she is not above the law. Her failure to carry out the mandate of Title 2, Section 39 is a clear violation of federal law. However, ultimate culpability does not end with Ms. Reynolds.

Ignorance of the law, in American society, is never a valid defense to the commission of an unlawful act – thus, all Americans are charged with knowledge of the law. Lawyers, who are, ideally, learned in the law, should be held to a higher standard; though it sounds like an oxymoron, they are indeed held to a standard of lawyers’ ethics.

A United States Senator, charged with promulgating the law, and especially a Senator who is a lawyer, thus, must be held to the highest standard of legal and ethical conduct. John Kerry is both a Senator and a lawyer. As such, Senator Kerry is charged with knowledge of the law and must be held to the highest standard of legal and ethical conduct. In this respect, Kerry is a “miserable failure.”

John Kerry is charged with knowing that the Secretary of the Senate is to dock his pay when he fails to show up for work – and that there is no exception in the law for campaign activities. Thus, any payment made to a Senator in violation of Title 2, Section 39 is an illegal payment of funds from the U.S. Treasury and, legally speaking, theft of taxpayer money – John Kerry is presumed to know that these payments are illegal. Therefore, by knowingly accepting these illegal payments, Senator Kerry himself is breaking the law.

While, of course, this rationale applies to all Senators, John Kerry warrants special condemnation: Senator Kerry is running for President and he has the most dismal attendance record in the Senate; Kerry has been absent, without valid excuse, 87 percent of the time this session! Ergo, John Kerry is the most flagrant offender – and “everyone is doing it” is not a reasonable excuse. Further, an ordinary American who is absent from their job 87 percent of the time wouldn’t merely be docked pay – that person would be fired!

In the interest of restoring the rule of law, I have personally filed a formal ethics complaint against both Senator Kerry and the Secretary of the Senate with the Senate Select Committee on Ethics, which has jurisdiction over this matter. It is quite sad that it takes the efforts of a mere law student to force a candidate for the Presidency to obey the law that, if successful, he will be sworn to uphold himself.

This matter draws yet another bright line between Senator Kerry and President Bush. When then-Governor Bush ran for President, he declined to accept his salary, as Governor, when he needed to campaign full time – even though Texas law did not require him to do so. On the other hand, though Unites States law requires Kerry not to accept his salary when he campaigns full time and cannot be present in the Senate, Kerry has opted to accept his salary illegally.

Jonathan Stein is on staff at the Hofstra Law Review and has been published in the Washington Times, Brown Daily Herald, NewsMax.com and The Committee for Justice.

Link: here (http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/6/18/142727.shtml)

FORD
06-18-2004, 03:59 PM
As everyone knows, I'm not Judas IsKerryot's biggest fan, but damn are the right wingers getting desperate here, or what?

John Ashcroft
06-18-2004, 04:04 PM
Nope. I'd be all for docking the pay of any Congressman or Senator, regardless of party, if they are delinquent in their duties.

knuckleboner
06-18-2004, 04:11 PM
no you wouldn't. they'd change the code.;)

John Ashcroft
06-18-2004, 04:12 PM
Maybe we could get an activist judge to apply this law only to Republicans...

knuckleboner
06-18-2004, 04:35 PM
would be difficult. but i'm sure there's somebody out there creative (insane) enough (cough9thcircuitcough) who just might could do it.

FORD
06-18-2004, 04:43 PM
Maybe Michael Newdow could adopt Kerry as his son and petition the court?

Dave's PA Rental
06-18-2004, 05:27 PM
wow, John Ashcroft...thats really reaching.

Anyone But Bush...

Dave's PA Rental
06-18-2004, 05:29 PM
I wish John McCain ran for the nom against Bush...I wouldve voted for McCain...

(I know, I know...he's not a "REAL" conservative...blah blah blah...)

Warham
06-18-2004, 05:40 PM
Kerry's wife's got enough money. Why does he need a paycheck? Isn't she giving him his allowance?

freak
06-20-2004, 03:53 AM
Originally posted by FORD
As everyone knows, I'm not Judas IsKerryot's biggest fan, but damn are the right wingers getting desperate here, or what?


Sounds like Kerry is the desparate one.

Married a rich heiress and still has to grab for money.

Why does the Democratic Party pick losers like this as candidates?

Surely there's better candidate material there.

The whole lot of them can't be Dukakis and Mondale clones.

Cathedral
06-20-2004, 05:47 AM
The law is the law, period.
Until it is changed it should be followed as it is written.

Dr. Love
06-20-2004, 07:09 AM
I'm not sure about going that far, Cat. There are some laws on the books that date back over a hundred years on the books in Texas; no one knows about it because they are never enforced (kinda like that law against sodomy from a while back). We all see those mass mailings of "absurd laws"... you mean to tell me those should all be followed until the lawmakers get around to changing it?

In this case, yeah, Kerry shouldn't get paid for not being there.

Cathedral
06-20-2004, 12:18 PM
Well, if it's a law it should be followed and enforced...(key word being- should).
Just like the law here in Ohio where it is a crime to back out of your driveway, lol.

Which makes me wonder...Why do we drive on a Parkway and park on a Drive-way? lol.

John Ashcroft
06-21-2004, 08:00 AM
I personally think that it should be mandatory to strike 3 laws off the books for every new law put in. That'd clean up all the outdated and inapplicable laws that are floating around. However, I can't see anyone objecting to a law that docks the pay of public servants that don't show up to work.

knuckleboner
06-21-2004, 10:33 AM
Originally posted by Cathedral

Which makes me wonder...Why do we drive on a Parkway and park on a Drive-way? lol.

i'll tell you, in the high-traffic D.C. area, i drive my car out of the driveway and generally park it in gridlock on the parkway...



as for this law, my guess is its never been enforced. or at least hasn't for many, many years.

no, it doesn't make it right. but at the same time, it wouldn't be right, either, to suddenly start enforcing it right now. my guess is, during the 1996 race, senator dole, prior to his resigning, missed at least a few days.

to be fully fair and non-partisan, they probably need to declare a point in the future when they will start to enforce this law. (that, or get rid of it. personally, i'd get rid of it. let the constitutents decide if missed days is important...)

John Ashcroft
06-21-2004, 11:58 AM
So who determines if other federal and state employess are entitled to paid time off outside of sick and/or annual leave?

Different standards for different levels, huh?

FORD
06-21-2004, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by John Ashcroft
So who determines if other federal and state employess are entitled to paid time off outside of sick and/or annual leave?

Different standards for different levels, huh?

Must be. I didn't get any free days off to mourn poor St. Jellybean :(

knuckleboner
06-21-2004, 01:55 PM
different standards. yep.

the civil servant has different standards than the elected official.

you know, if the people of wyoming want their rep to be elected and never make 1 vote, so be it, they can keep electing him. if the people of rhode island think their senator missing 12% of the votes is bad, then vote him out.

John Ashcroft
06-21-2004, 03:10 PM
Or shoot him.

Cathedral
06-21-2004, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by John Ashcroft
Or shoot him.

Or maybe hang him.

freak
06-21-2004, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by Cathedral
Or maybe hang him.

Nahhh....

Have the Heinz bitch divorce him then force him to shack up with some dirt poor, illiterate trailer park princess. Give him a beat up Chevy Silverado with a Dixie flag painted along the side. Make him grow a mullet. Retire him from politics and give him a job at the local burger joint.

Let him experience the true face of Americana

FORD
06-21-2004, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by freak
Nahhh....

Have the Heinz bitch divorce him then force him to shack up with some dirt poor, illiterate trailer park princess. Give him a beat up Chevy Silverado with a Dixie flag painted along the side. Make him grow a mullet. Retire him from politics and give him a job at the local burger joint.

Let him experience the true face of Americana

Yeah, right after you make Junior experience the same thing. At least Kerry's worked for a living for a few years (if you can call being a lawyer working)

lucky wilbury
06-21-2004, 06:11 PM
bush has worked many jobs. in fact he even once worked at Sears

FORD
06-21-2004, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by lucky wilbury
bush has worked many jobs. in fact he even once worked at Sears

Jobs his daddy gave him don't count (including the current one). I didn't know about the Sears thing though. Good thing I already hate that store ;)

lucky wilbury
06-21-2004, 10:22 PM
from multiple sources:


from the tonight show with jay leno

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/05/20040519-18.html

Q Well, very good. Well, thank you. I know you have to run. I want to thank you very much for coming by. I didn't even get a chance to ask you if George was a good salesman when he was at Sears.

MRS. BUSH: He was a very good salesman at Sears.

Q How far do you think he could have risen at Sears if he hadn't become President?

MRS. BUSH: President

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/02/15/wus215.xml

"Extraneous" or not, information about Mr Bush's $212-a-month stint as a sporting goods salesman at Sears department store in 1966,

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bobthedog
06-24-2004, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by FORD
As everyone knows, I'm not Judas IsKerryot's biggest fan, but damn are the right wingers getting desperate here, or what?


No, we're for a strong America. Left-wingers are for a weak, wimpy USA to be pushed around by everyone.