Two Men Are HIV-Free After Undergoing Bone Marrow Transplants

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Hopefully the first two of many, many more....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/26/hiv-free-men-bone-marrow-transplants_n_1707505.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp000000 03&ir=Politics

Two Men Are HIV-Free After Undergoing Bone Marrow Transplants
Posted: 07/26/2012 4:59 pm

Two men with HIV no longer have detectable blood levels of the virus after receiving bone marrow transplants for their cancers, according to news reports.

"We expected HIV to vanish from the patients' plasma, but it is surprising that we can't find any traces of HIV in their cells," one of the researchers, Dr. Timothy Henrich, of Brigham and Women's Hospital, told ABC News. The network reported that the men received the bone marrow transplants while also being treated with anti-retrovirals.

Usually people with HIV are taken off their anti-retrovirals before cancer treatment, NBC News reported.

The finding "suggests that under the cover of anti-retroviral therapy, the cells that repopulated the patient's immune system appear to be protected from becoming re-infected with HIV," Henrich told ABC News.

NBC News pointed out that the men still have undetectable HIV levels even two years after receiving the transplants.

However, the Boston Globe pointed out that it's still too soon to say that these men have been full-on cured of HIV, since they are still on the anti-retrovirals. There's no firm word on whether they will go off of the medication.

Researchers cautioned that this approach probably won't work for everyone with HIV, NBC News reported. The men possessed specific gene mutations, and bone marrow transplants are an arduous process for the patient -- sometimes even fatal -- and they are also extremely expensive, the Boston Globe reported.

"We're not going to be doing bone marrow transplants on healthy HIV-infected patients who are doing well on antiretroviral therapy," study researcher Dr. Daniel Kuritzkes told the Boston Globe.

The findings, presented at the 2012 International AIDS Conference, come just days after Timothy Ray Brown -- the "Berlin patient" who was considered cured of HIV after undergoing a bone marrow stem cell transplant for his leukemia -- said at the conference that any reports that he still has HIV in his body are untrue, the Associated Press reported. Recently, there had been controversy over a presentation suggesting Brown still had traces of HIV genes in his body -- and whether that meant that he actually still had HIV.

Brown initially received the bone marrow stem cell transplants because of non HIV-related leukemia, but the transplants came from a person whose cells were HIV-resistant. After he had received the transplants, Brown's HIV didn't come back and he didn't have to take anti-retroviral medication anymore. Scientists considered him cured.

However, these two new cases are different from Brown's because the two men are still on anti-retroviral drugs, while Brown was able to go off of them after his transplant.

[ELVIS]

The government and big pharma will hush this up ASAP...

They've done it before...


:elvis:

[Diamondjimi]

The government and big pharma will hush this up ASAP...

They've done it before...


:elvis:

Nah, HIV is so 80's. I'm sure they've moved on to creating the next terminal disease and treatment....

[ELVIS]

That's true as well...

But in the early 90s there was a Successful HIV treatment that was a form of dialysis that heated the blood to a certain temperature and the subjects had no detectable infection following the treatment at three and six months...

Suddenly, It totally disappeared...




:elvis:

[clarathecarrot]

Aids is easy to kill as I have been telling people since the 1980s .

Simple houshold bleach kills it, but you cannot take that chemical and flush out the human body.

I alway have thought that a way of curing many dissorders of the blood was a type of blood doping.

In my mind though what this would do was give the blood that is reintroduced after, doping, freezing, filtering, microwaving, whattever..etc...

It only gives the new blood a huge start in the battle inside the body... to ward off these pathogens or whattever they are .

There must be AIDS still inside the artery and vien walls and attatched to varios body structres so.

Just because they cannot see evidence of AIDS in the cell doesn't mean it isn't there, but the new blood that is free of the virus could/will give the patient many years untill the symptoms show up again and then they could have the treatment again.

It is also similar to the old Rock and Roll treatment they say Kieef used to get, a whole body transfusion of dyalysis,whattever, to remove all the heroin and clean him up.

I hope this is a good story with a continued possitive results AIDS and other things, like... are,,.. bad ,,M'kay.

[Nitro Express]

I took a biology class in college and this is when the HIV/AIDS paranoia was in full swing. The professor told us it would not only destroy the insurance companies but destroy whole nations and there was all this end of the world panic. Now we hardly hear of the disease and climate change now gets the same paranoid attention HIV/AIDS once got. I just learned to take all these doom and gloom predictions with a grain of salt. The future is very hard to predict. If it was easy we all would be rich.

[ELVIS]

No Nitro, the sky is falling because of republicans...

Don't you know anything ??


:elvis:

[Va Beach VH Fan]

I took a biology class in college and this is when the HIV/AIDS paranoia was in full swing. The professor told us it would not only destroy the insurance companies but destroy whole nations and there was all this end of the world panic. Now we hardly hear of the disease and climate change now gets the same paranoid attention HIV/AIDS once got. I just learned to take all these doom and gloom predictions with a grain of salt. The future is very hard to predict. If it was easy we all would be rich.

Yeah, it's only killed 25 million people, what a joke....

[katina]

33.4 million people are currently living with HIV/AIDS
In 2008, 2 million people died due HIV/AIDS, and another 2.7 million were newly infected

[clarathecarrot]

33.4 million people are currently living with HIV/AIDS
In 2008, 2 million people died due HIV/AIDS, and another 2.7 million were newly infected

I bet 85% of the people in that survey are from North Africa where there has been little or no awareness placed on the issue by the people who live there.

I had a AIDS test in 1998 and the first question asked me by the doctor was have you ever had sexual

relation with a person from North Africa...

after that he was pretty sure I was free..( it seemed by his attitude change.)

I am not making a harsh here against anyone.

[clarathecarrot]

Nah, HIV is so 80's. I'm sure they've moved on to creating the next terminal disease and treatment....


I cannot accept that the governments of the world would use the population of this earth as a placebo test, but I know they do.

Like General Patton standing in review of his troops as they parade by for his inspection knowing well and good that 1/2 of them won't make it back in order to win the next engagement.

I sometimes think governments look at us just like that.

They, in the big picture are not concerned with every single person.

[ELVIS]

The majority of AIDS infection in the US is spread by IV drug use...


:elvis:

[clarathecarrot]

The majority of AIDS infection in the US is spread by IV drug use...


:elvis:


Nah, they are speading it for sure with swapping needles for some junkies it is a brotherhood thing to swap
blood like that old movie thing of cutting your hand and shaking hands as a bond.

No drunkard wants to drink alone.

I have been knee deep in the drug culture since the early 1970s and as far as I can tell less than 1% of the users I have known lost thier minds in IV drug use and I have hung out with 10s of thousands of users. Most people are in and out of that scene.

Within that community it is bad, they however tend to be hiding in the bathroom at the party with the door locked, and thinking they are the special cool people. With the secret knowlege that we cannot be part of.

[ELVIS]

No, I'm right...

I've worked the Charity hospitals and I've seen it first hand...

In fact I've only seen two or three cases of HIV infection that was not IV drug related...

You make too much stuff up, carrot...


:elvis:

[clarathecarrot]

No, I'm right...

I've worked the Charity hospitals and I've seen it first hand...

In fact I've only seen two or three cases of HIV infection that was not IV drug related...

You make too much stuff up, carrot...


:elvis:


Yes, I do .

But you seem to not understand that IV use is just the fastest way to deliver the disease.

That skews the results and proves ,"Your Point".

IV drug use is so tight knit of a community it has no relation to the rest of the world.

I would bet you real money that the people living with aids are 90%, not drug users, or have had contact with drug users.

[ELVIS]

How do you think AIDS is transmitted ??


:elvis:

[Satan]

How do you think AIDS is transmitted ??


:elvis:

Kenyan socialist alien death rays from Barry Gibb Sotero Manilow Davis Bonds spaceship?

[ELVIS]

Wrong...


:elvis:

[ELVIS]

Incorrect...


:elvis:

[clarathecarrot]

How do you think AIDS is transmitted ??


:elvis:


Thru any bodily fluid that transferes from one anilmal to another, sweat off one person flicked into the other persons scratch on thier arm,, dead skin cells floating around rooms being breathed thru others nostrils landing on nasal capilaries,, landing on eyeballs, breathed into lungs,, any way it wants to be transfered.

Then there is also the old stand by, buttsex and dirty syringes.

No matter what the gubment sais it is a virus and it is alive, so...believe what you will..free country and all..

[ELVIS]

Thru any bodily fluid that transferes from one anilmal to another, sweat off one person flicked into the other persons scratch on thier arm,, dead skin cells floating around rooms being breathed thru others nostrils landing on nasal capilaries,, landing on eyeballs, breathed into lungs,, any way it wants to be transfered.



That's complete bullshit...

Blood to blood contact is the only way...

Theoretically, blood directly into the eyes, but I've never heard of that actually happening...

But any body fluid is bullshit...


:elvis:

[jhale667]

That's complete bullshit...

Blood to blood contact is the only way...

Theoretically, blood directly into the eyes, but I've never heard of that actually happening...

But any body fluid is bullshit...


:elvis:


Doesn't take a former medical worker to know Thomocarrot's entire post was bullshit - but it DOES explain why he never leaves his trailer...he's afraid of breathing in gay skin cells! :lol:

[ELVIS]

LMAO!!


:elvis:

[clarathecarrot]

Next you will tell me there isn't any AIDS cell in, a AIDS carriers, shit and piss...huh ,,,..?

Git' with the program hometeam, this aint no trail run, this is the big time.

[LoungeMachine]

Thomethecarrot is suffering the same fate as sockfucker....

After years of being blathering, incoherent idiots and thread derailers, they expect to be taken seriously when there's a subject they wish to speak on intelligently.

:gulp:

Wolf!!!

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Thomethecarrot is suffering the same fate as sockfucker....

After years of being blathering, incoherent idiots and thread derailers, they expect to be taken seriously when there's a subject they wish to speak on intelligently.

:gulp:

Wolf!!!

Eddie!!!! :baaa:

[clarathecarrot]

Thomethecarrot is suffering the same fate as sockfucker....

After years of being blathering, incoherent idiots and thread derailers, they expect to be taken seriously when there's a subject they wish to speak on intelligently.

:gulp:

Wolf!!!


It just took you years to figure it out Longue.

Now stop derailing this thread !!!

[PETE'S BROTHER]

is the baby hiv free?

[clarathecarrot]

The placenta is a amazing thing but it cannot do what all they thought.

[ELVIS]

Next you will tell me there isn't any AIDS cell in, a AIDS carriers, shit and piss...huh ,,,..?

Git' with the program hometeam, this aint no trail run, this is the big time.

That incoherent bullshit requires translation...


:elvis:

[clarathecarrot]

Ok lemmie see ...uhh...?...

There may be Billions of people who have contracted AIDS at one time or another in thiere trek thru this thing called life.

They haven't been given a large enough dose, at one time, to not have thier, "Immune Sytem" kill or contain it.

Careless behaviors may infest certain people, to the point thier sytems become unable to destroy the infecting virus, due to the large amounts at one time dosages.

Thus thier system is overwheled and they become a carrier of the virus.

They may not succum to the virus for years, but pass it on to others in a myriad of different ways, with any part of thier body that carries a single blood cell or fecal matter or urine that flushes these type of cells out of thier body in large amounts.

That is about as good as I can do without a medical book here.

[ELVIS]

If you're serious, that post proves you're a mental case...

You obviously have zero knowledge of the physiology of human beings...

Drugs are bad, mkay...

I did lots of drugs, but you're like Kansas, the point of no return...


:elvis:

[ELVIS]

I sure hope you don't own any firearms...


:elvis:

[LoungeMachine]

If you're serious, that post proves you're a mental case...
:elvis:



Nick, Hale, and I have been saying this for years now......

:gulp:

[clarathecarrot]

If you're serious, that post proves you're a mental case...

You obviously have zero knowledge of the physiology of human beings...

Drugs are bad, mkay...

I did lots of drugs, but you're like Kansas, the point of no return...


:elvis:

That is your reply..?

That's it..?

That is all you have, what you accuse Lounge and Hale of doing to you constantly ?

Nothing, just a personal slam directed at me, that is absolutely nothing like me at all..?

You have been warned and you have been owned.

If you want to believe something else fine, but just to, "Lounge" me like that is bad ..M'kay..?

[ELVIS]

I've never been owned, it's not possible...


:elvis:

[PETE'S BROTHER]

That is your reply..?

That's it..?

That is all you have, what you accuse Lounge and Hale of doing to you constantly ?

Nothing, just a personal slam directed at me, that is absolutely nothing like me at all..?

You have been warned and you have been owned.

If you want to believe something else fine, but just to, "Lounge" me like that is bad ..M'kay..?

:biggrin:

[clarathecarrot]

I will take on any and all posters that post # 31 is exactly the deffinition of the contracting of, transmission of, a virus what takes place after the body cannot contain the virus and how a blood virus is transmitted... and how it become life threatening.

Prove clara wrong.

I am concerned that Elvis had no medical training at all.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

I will take on any and all posters that post # 31 is exactly the deffinition of the contracting of, transmission of, a virus what takes place after the body cannot contain the virus and how a blood virus is transmitted... and how it become life threatening.

Prove clara wrong.

I am concerned that Elvis had no medical training at all.

don't let THAT concern you...

[jhale667]

Trying googling it, Thomocarrot - you're absofuckinglutely wrong.







Do you wear a surgical mask when you go on PBR runs, btw...? :lmao:

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Trying googling it, Thomocarrot - you're absofuckinglutely wrong.







Do you wear a surgical mask when you go on PBR runs, btw...? :lmao:

those are tough to fit around helmets :baaa:

[ELVIS]

And it's not about believing something...

20 plus years of working in specialized medicine, plus ongoing medical education gives me much more authority than you when discussing disease processes, disease transmission, viral infections, modes of infection, high risk groups, susceptibility rates or other factors...

Medicine is a science that I love, and although it's been corrupted by big pharma, it's still a phisiological science with certain absolutes that cannot be argued, especially by numbskulls like you...


:elvis:

[LoungeMachine]

Prove clara wrong.

.

wow.

:gulp:

just wow

[LoungeMachine]

those are tough to fit around helmets :baaa:

I doubt he ever wore a helmet...

:gulp:

[PETE'S BROTHER]

I doubt he ever wore a helmet...

:gulp:

well, if he rolled thru a state that mandated it. that's the only time i do

[clarathecarrot]

don't let THAT concern you...


He has never denied the Nurse pet name so I assumed his, only Homos get HIV, was just his bait and switch for the douchebags who fall for it.

P.S. there is aids and MILLIONS of different diseases,viruses on a toilet seat no matter what they tell you in 5th grade.

Get with the program people.

[ELVIS]

So how many viruses have you contracted from a toilet seat ??

I can define the word contracted if you like...


:elvis:

[PETE'S BROTHER]

So how many viruses have you contracted from a toilet seat ??

I can define the word contracted if you like...


:elvis:

please, and source of origin :hee:

[clarathecarrot]

So how many viruses have you contracted from a toilet seat ??

I can define the word contracted if you like...


:elvis:

Billions and Trillions perhaps Quintillions of little the monsters.

Watch out for the back blast there may not be much chlorine in the toilet water!!!

[LoungeMachine]

And then suddenly, without warning, the thread took a turn onto Awesome Street....


:gulp:

lol

[PETE'S BROTHER]

And then suddenly, without warning, the thread took a turn onto Awesome Street....


:gulp:

lol

"gone to scat films" is the term we use at work....

[clarathecarrot]

I was just using the Toilet seat a a wonderfull metaphore for people who believe what they are told, like they are children and unnable to decide for themselves what the truth is.

It's like people looking for life on other planets in order to prove we exist here..just silly.

I want to know why Elvis thinks AIDS is in the blood of drug users and that it can be transmitted to other animals, but isn't at the same time in a single blood cell.



EDIT: I am willing to discuss mircroscpically or simply attached to hemopathically if you want. I would like to know how these single cells infected with the AIDS Virus are able to overwhelm a host and then become a Immune Defficiency Virus that kills.

Never mind he could just repost post # 31 to easy.

[clarathecarrot]

And then suddenly, without warning, the thread took a turn onto Awesome Street....


:gulp:

lol

That is why I get paid the big bucks .

[binnie]

***flush***

[motherchicken]

Thomethecarrot is suffering the same fate as sockfucker....

After years of being blathering, incoherent idiots and thread derailers, they expect to be taken seriously when there's a subject they wish to speak on intelligently.

:gulp:

Wolf!!!
Predictability runs rampant here Tripper. It's just as predictable that you will derail any thread if certain people post just to continue with your history of being a know it all on any subject pompous ass. No matter if they post on subject or not. And you openly admit it. But everybody still loves the "rockstar who had one big hit during the hair band era and lives like a king on the proceeds". Milan to Minsk. Bakersfield to Baton Rouge. To infinity and beyond.

[Blaze]

Aww, Thome I do not often speak directly to you, however, watching your brains being smeared onto toast and eaten by the Roth Army is a bit much. Justifying your lifestyle through imaginary and exploitative medical rhetoric, only needs to be repeated to yourself and your victim.
Cheers,
:flame:

[Satan]

I just hope Mr. Presley's pastor doesn't read this board. He'll definitely be excommunicated from the fundagelical church for admitting a belief in science of any sort.

[motherchicken]

I've never been owned, it's not possible...


:elvis:
You've never served in the military?

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Predictability runs rampant here Tripper. It's just as predictable that you will derail any thread if certain people post just to continue with your history of being a know it all on any subject pompous ass. No matter if they post on subject or not. And you openly admit it. But everybody still loves the "rockstar who had one big hit during the hair band era and lives like a king on the proceeds". Milan to Minsk. Bakersfield to Baton Rouge. To infinity and beyond.

that last part sounds a little "jealous"

[clarathecarrot]

I had to edit last post here it is...E'splain it to me...


I was just using the Toilet seat a a wonderfull metaphore for people who believe what they are told, like they are children and unnable to decide for themselves what the truth is.

It's like people looking for life on other planets in order to prove we exist here..just silly.

I want to know why Elvis thinks AIDS is in the blood of drug users and that it can be transmitted to other animals, but isn't at the same time in a single blood cell.



EDIT: I am willing to discuss mircroscpically or simply attached to hemopathically if you want. I would like to know how these single cells infected with the AIDS Virus are able to overwhelm a host and then become a Immune Defficiency Virus that kills.

Never mind he could just repost post # 31 to easy.

[clarathecarrot]

Aww, Thome I do not often speak directly to you, however, watching your brains being smeared onto toast and eaten by the Roth Army is a bit much. Justifying your lifestyle through imaginary and exploitative medical rhetoric, only needs to be repeated to yourself and your victim.
Cheers,
:flame:

Thanks, Blahz'e the excitement in your posting style is once again and again,reminiscent

of a

Thorozine shuffle thru a phsyk ward.

[ELVIS]

You've never served in the military?

No...


:elvis:

[motherchicken]

that last part sounds a little "jealous"
I am. I wish I had been a "rockstar who had one big hit during the hair band days and lived like a king off the proceeds" but even if I had I'd have pissed away the money by now. Money burns a hole in my pockets even if it's plastic money I have to pay back.

[motherchicken]

No...


:elvis:
That's about the closest you can be to actually "owned" in real life.

[ELVIS]

Thanks, Blahz'e the excitement in your posting style is once again and again,reminiscent

of a

Thorozine shuffle thru a phsyk ward.

If you took the time to read your prescription bottle, you would know the spelling is:

t h o r a z i n e


:elvis:

[LoungeMachine]

That's about the closest you can be to actually "owned" in real life.

I would think your time in prison for selling weed was worse.....

:gulp:

[clarathecarrot]

You know what is cool a bunch of people standing around (metaphore again) discussing things and them some guy just like throws a rock completely out of the blue from over in the bushes, and hits Lounge on the crainium.

I here the word "DINK" as it ricochets off somewhere...?

then ....?I don't know...lol?

Funny shit!!..lol

[ELVIS]

Money burns a hole in my pockets even if it's plastic money I have to pay back.

Said if you're doing business with me honey, what does that make you ??



:elvis:

[PETE'S BROTHER]

You know what is cool a bunch of people standing around (metaphore again) discussing things and them some guy just like throws a rock completely out of the blue from over in the bushes, and hits Lounge on the crainium.

I here the word "DINK" as it ricochets off somewhere...?

then ....?I don't know...lol?

Funny shit!!..lol

i've heard of blue balls, never heard the bushes could turn blue

[LoungeMachine]

Said if you're doing business with me honey, what does that make you ??



:elvis:


You've been reading too many thome posts....

:gulp:

His word salad has seeped into your brain

[clarathecarrot]

If you took the time to read your prescription bottle, you would know he spelling is:

t h o r a z i n e


:elvis:

I would be more like a candidate for shock therapy and, the they the them ,probably still couldn't get my attention...no phsychoreactive drugs for this kid,

I won't even take a XANAX for that reason...yeap your all taking Thorazine (thanks Elvi) by another name..!!!!

Stupid monkeys.

[motherchicken]

I would think your time in prison for selling weed was worse.....

:gulp:
Not actually. It wasn't much different except they didn't make me cut my hair and the guards were generally much less dickheads than the average Navy officers were.

[clarathecarrot]

i've heard of blue balls, never heard the bushes could turn blue

lol.....

[ELVIS]

It's Xanax dumbass...


:elvis:

[PETE'S BROTHER]

You've been reading too many thome posts....

:gulp:

His word salad has seeped into your brain

danno likes salad

[LoungeMachine]

Not actually. It wasn't much different except they didn't make me cut my hair and the guards were generally much less dickheads than the average Navy officers were.

Probably got laid more in prison than in the Navy, too....

:gulp:

[motherchicken]

Said if you're doing business with me honey, what does that make you ??



:elvis:
Huh?..

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Huh?..

some casablanca gin joint

[ELVIS]

Hey carrot, spelling kind of matters when you're trying to make a point...

Some grammatical errors are commonplace and are acceptable, but you're obviously illiterate...


:elvis:

[motherchicken]

Probably got laid more in prison than in the Navy, too....

:gulp:
No never experienced that man on man loving you enjoy so much.

[ELVIS]

You're a nervous wreck...


:elvis:

[Satan]

Well...at least we know that one person here can take comfort from the knowledge that you can't get HIV from sexual contact with a piece of fabric intended to cover a foot. :sockfucker:

[clarathecarrot]

It's Xanax dumbass...


:elvis:

NO! It's wont download splel check ...Tool of ...THE MAN!!!!

thanks.


Fight The Power!!

lol

[PETE'S BROTHER]

hevay birdation

[LoungeMachine]

I'm sure VA is thrilled, but not shocked where this thread went......

:gulp:

[clarathecarrot]

hevay hevay birdtation..

[PETE'S BROTHER]

I'm sure VA is thrilled, but not shocked where this thread went......

:gulp:

betcha VA could give three shits

[LoungeMachine]

betcha VA could give three shits

Not on a public toilet, though.....

:gulp:

[clarathecarrot]

I'm sure VA is thrilled, but not shocked where this thread went......

:gulp:

Chef and a few of us took a nice Muffalata sandwich break in the Greenland Warming..(I believe) thread and after a light cyber lunch we were back on trac...

[motherchicken]

Anybody know how Magic Johnson fathered his kids after he contracted hiv and they don't have hiv?

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Anybody know how Magic Johnson fathered his kids after he contracted hiv and they don't have hiv?

nope, how?

[clarathecarrot]

Not on a public toilet, though.....

:gulp:

Much like a shoulder fired rocket launcher, it's the backblast that kills so many morons.

[motherchicken]

Well...at least we know that one person here can take comfort from the knowledge that you can't get HIV from sexual contact with a piece of fabric intended to cover a foot. :sockfucker:
Luckilly for you you can't catch it from sucking dick unless the dick you're sucking has a wound on it. Satan sucks cocks in hell!!!

[Nickdfresh]

That is your reply..?

That's it..?

That is all you have, what you accuse Lounge and Hale of doing to you constantly ?

Nothing, just a personal slam directed at me, that is absolutely nothing like me at all..?

You have been warned and you have been owned.

If you want to believe something else fine, but just to, "Lounge" me like that is bad ..M'kay..?

Dude, lay off the gas can huffing....

[LoungeMachine]

Luckilly for you you can't catch it from sucking dick unless the dick you're sucking has a wound on it. Satan sucks cocks in hell!!!

Nice to know you're well-versed in at least one subject.....

:gulp:

[motherchicken]

nope, how?
Magic. Actually I was really asking a question not looking for an opening for a stupid joke response. But the opportunity appeared and I took it.

[Nickdfresh]

That's about the closest you can be to actually "owned" in real life.

How the fuck would you know?

[Nickdfresh]

Luckilly for you you can't catch it from sucking dick unless the dick you're sucking has a wound on it. Satan sucks cocks in hell!!!

Does putting a sock on his dick protect you?

And do you get lint in your throat?

[clarathecarrot]

Dude, lay off the gas can huffing....

Anyone else her a "DINK".....

[motherchicken]

How the fuck would you know?
Sorry. I forgot you were sold into slavery as a child. That subject still causes you to get butt hurt. Almost as butt hurt as you were as a sex slave.

[LoungeMachine]

Sorry. I forgot you were sold into slavery as a child. That subject still causes you to get butt hurt. Almost as butt hurt as you were as a sex slave.

Sometimes you should really just leave the post in your head, no need to hit "post quick reply"

:gulp:

[motherchicken]

Does putting a sock on his dick protect you?

And do you get lint in your throat?
I only put socks on my own dick. But you better not count on a sock to prevent the spread of stds to yourself if you were thinking about trying it.

[Nickdfresh]

Sorry. I forgot you were sold into slavery as a child. That subject still causes you to get butt hurt. Almost as butt hurt as you were as a sex slave.

Wow, good one. Try harder next time, shithead...

[motherchicken]

Sometimes you should really just leave the post in your head, no need to hit "post quick reply"

:gulp:
What did Allanis say on the subject? Good advice that you just don't take. Self medicate Loungie.

[Nickdfresh]

I only put socks on my own dick. But you better not count on a sock to prevent the spread of stds to yourself if you were thinking about trying it.

So it's okay to suck a dick without a sock you are saying? I'm cuntfused...

[motherchicken]

Wow, good one. Try harder next time, shithead...
Shithead? No that's Steve Martins dog. I go by asshole.

[motherchicken]

So it's okay to suck a dick without a sock you are saying? I'm cuntfused...
I could tell when you came to me for cocksucking advice. But I'll still do you a solid Nicky. Don't eat unwrapped weenies. Food poisoning is the least of your worries.

[ELVIS]

Anybody know how Magic Johnson fathered his kids after he contracted hiv and they don't have hiv?

He's not virus free...

He's been on medication faithfully and has been taking good care of himself keeping the virus suppressed, so to speak...

But maybe they're not really his offspring...


:elvis:

[motherchicken]

Why isn't psyop in the title of this thread? I'm sure it's relevant somehow.

[Blaze]

Important Reminder -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYI-VoKUDdI

[ELVIS]

So it's okay to suck a dick without a sock you are saying? I'm cuntfused...

If I really was the asshole you all think I am, that would be my sig...


:elvis:

[motherchicken]

If I really was the asshole you all think I am, that would be my sig...


:elvis:
Do it. Do It. You know he wants it and you'll never get a better chance.

[motherchicken]

My Spidey sense tells me the dingleberries are huddling up for their next offensive assault. There's a lull in the action.

[ELVIS]

Nah...


:elvis:

[ELVIS]

Nick might just enjoy the taste of latex...


:elvis:

[ELVIS]

Eh, Latexforbreath ??


:elvis:

[Nickdfresh]

I could tell when you came to me for cocksucking advice. But I'll still do you a solid Nicky. Don't eat unwrapped weenies. Food poisoning is the least of your worries.


Well, you seem to be an expert...I was more interested in the science of it all actually...

[motherchicken]

I heard Nicky carries packets of mustard because he heard they were condom mints.

[Nickdfresh]

Nick might just enjoy the taste of latex...


:elvis:

Not really. I'll take my chances without a dental-dam. I am worried about mouth-cancer though from HPV...

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?61729-Oral-sex-linked-to-cancer-risk


Eh, Latexforbreath ??


:elvis:

Lame, even by your standards...

[motherchicken]

Well, you seem to be an expert...I was more interested in the science of it all actually...
Nothing says I like sucking cock more than I did it for scientific reasons.

[Nickdfresh]

I heard Nicky carries packets of mustard because he heard they were condom mints.

OMG dude, are you a professional comedian or something?

[ELVIS]

I was more interested in the science of it all actually...

That's what Pete Townshend said too...


:elvis:

[LoungeMachine]

Nothing says I like sucking cock more than I did it for scientific reasons.

Hello siggy

:gulp:

[Nickdfresh]

Hello siggy

:gulp:

Like fish in a barrel... :sockfucker::lmao:

[ELVIS]

I didn't know Latexforbreath was a real dick sucking queer...

Like Dave said:

One thing you know for certain is "Hey, you never know"...


:elvis:

[motherchicken]

OMG dude, are you a professional comedian or something?
Maybe. Now you can reel it in. I took the bait. Smartass comment is on the way.

[ELVIS]

Hello siggy

:gulp:

Will they ever learn ??


:elvis:

[LoungeMachine]

Will they ever learn ??


:elvis:


No.

:gulp:

[Nickdfresh]

I didn't know Latexforbreath was a real dick sucking queer...

Like Dave said:

One thing you know for certain is "Hey, you never know"...


:elvis:


Who's that? The guy who sucked you off?

[ELVIS]

Who's that? The guy who sucked you off?

You don't even know Roth lyrics ??


:elvis:

[Nickdfresh]

You don't even know Roth lyrics ??


:elvis:

Or the NYS Lottery slogan?

[motherchicken]

Who's that? The guy who sucked you off?
Someone sure has cocksucking on the mind today. Probably has a little residue on his chin too.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

i suck the entire roth armys' balls

[Nickdfresh]

Someone sure has cocksucking on the mind today. Probably has a little residue on his chin too.

Yeah, you really shouldn't have brought it up. But it's okay, we won't judge. (LOL yes we will!)...

[ELVIS]

I sure will, you're a homo, Latexforbreath...


:elvis:

[motherchicken]

Yeah, you really shouldn't have brought it up. But it's okay, we won't judge. (LOL yes we will!)...
You're off site habits don't befund me Nicky. As Eddie murphy said. "I'm gonna have a beer, you go ahead and suck that cock."

[motherchicken]

i suck the entire roth armys' balls
Somebody's desperate to be quoted on a sig.

[LoungeMachine]

i suck the entire roth armys' balls

Nice try.

no siggy for you

:gulp:

[Nickdfresh]

You're off site habits don't befund me Nicky. As Eddie murphy said. "I'm gonna have a beer, you go ahead and suck that cock."

Good job quoting a guy that gets hummers from trannies....

[LoungeMachine]

You're off site habits don't befund me Nicky. As Eddie murphy said. "I'm gonna have a beer, you go ahead and suck that cock."

*Your

That one still trips you up, huh?

:gulp:

[motherchicken]

Good job quoting a guy that gets hummers from trannies....
Like I said I don't judge. I listen to old Elton John recordings too. You're sounding a little homophobish Nicky.

[clarathecarrot]

i suck the entire roth armys' balls


No No No first you have to establish a loony personality over a period of years ..

You can't just come out swinging.

[LoungeMachine]

No No No first you have to establish a loony personality over a period of years ..

You can't just come out swinging.

And change your name a few times.....

:gulp:

[motherchicken]

*Your

That one still trips you up, huh?

:gulp:
Sometimes. But then again I'm a mere mortal. Not a "RockGod" .

[ELVIS]

Good job quoting a guy that gets hummers from trannies....

Is that another subject you're an expert in ??


:elvis:

[motherchicken]

Is that another subject you're an expert in ??


:elvis:
Are you kidding? Nick and Lounge are experts on any subject. Just ask them they'll tell you. You really don't have to ask. They'll tell you anyway.

[ELVIS]

Oh, I know...


:elvis:

[LoungeMachine]

Are you kidding? Nick and Lounge are experts on any subject. Just ask them they'll tell you. You really don't have to ask. They'll tell you anyway.

I like that you take pride in being an uneducated hick in here.

:gulp:

Clara/Thome might be incoherent most of the time, but even he is smarter than you.

[Nickdfresh]

I sure will, you're a homo, Latexforbreath...


:elvis:

My Elvira, aren't we in a bit of a tizzy today? You keep posting the same shit over and over hoping to be funny and yet you claim to be gainfully employed and happily married while being online almost 24/7 of late. The sad thing is that you're not that funny, have little to offer other than regurgitated Alex Jones baseless hype, and claims that you're a bad ass guitarist like your hero Yngwie. But somethin' ain't adding up lately, dumbass.

I don't think your job is going very well, and that your marriage is a tad miserable which is why you're constantly acting out like a three year old with a severe case of perceptual butthurt.

You've asked me in another thread "is that the best you got?" Bro, take a look at yourself. Turn off the radio bullshit you must spend most the night listening too and maybe log off the interweb, you unhappy repressed fuckwit. Normally I've delved away from this sort of personal flaming lately, but it's pretty well acknowledged here that you're a massive cunt that goes after the personal and work lives of some of the most non-offensive posters here with a hint of judgmental, sanctimonious cuntiness making that retarded fucking cult you call a church seem like a bunch of phoney assholes obsessed with the gay.

But just to reassure a "real man" like you (and when I say "real man," I'm talking about an ex-junkie alchy ex-nurse who seems to hop around from job to job and only met his [stepford]wife through his church, because there was no way a socially retarded closet case like you is getting a girl otherwise) I'm not gay nor have I ever sucked a dick. In fact, my biggest current dilemma is if I should pursue fucking the hot, 22-year old barmaid who works in a local Hooters-like restaurant since she now has a long term boyfriend and I don't want to fuck her relationship up. Suck on that while you crawl into bed for a few hours of sleep after listening to overnight radio after being logged on to this site all day, and cozy on up to your arranged-marriage wife/mail-ordered bride who probably barely can stand you at this point...

[LoungeMachine]

That's gonna leave a mark.....

:gulp:

[ELVIS]

My Elvira, aren't we in a bit of a tizzy today? You keep posting the same shit over and over hoping to be funny and yet you claim to be gainfully employed and happily married while being online almost 24/7 of late. The sad thing is that you're not that funny, have little to offer other than regurgitated Alex Jones baseless hype, and claims that you're a bad ass guitarist like your hero Yngwie. But somethin' ain't adding up lately, dumbass.

I don't think your job is going very well, and that your marriage is a tad miserable which is why you're constantly acting out like a three year old with a severe case of perceptual butthurt.

You've asked me in another thread "is that the best you got?" Bro, take a look at yourself. Turn off the radio bullshit you must spend most the night listening too and maybe log off the interweb, you unhappy repressed fuckwit. Normally I've delved away from this sort of personal flaming lately, but it's pretty well acknowledged here that you're a massive cunt that goes after the personal and work lives of some of the most non-offensive posters here making that retarded fucking cult you call a church seem like a bunch of sanctimonious phoney assholes obsessed with the gay.

But just to reassure a "real man" like you (and when I say "real man," I'm talking about an ex-junkie alchy ex-nurse who seems to hop around from job to job and only met his [stepford]wife through his church, because there was no way a socially retarded closet case like you is getting a girl otherwise) I'm not gay nor have I ever sucked a dick. In fact, my biggest current dilemma is if I should pursue fucking the hot, 22-year old barmaid who works in a local Hooters-like restaurant since she now has a long term boyfriend and I don't want to fuck her relationship up. Suck on that while you crawl into bed for a few hours of sleep after listening to overnight radio and log on to this site all day, and cozy on up to your arranged-marriage wife/mail-ordered bride...

I just had to quote this...

I'm somebody !!!!

I'm somebody !!!!

The new phone books are here !!!!!!!!!!

I'm somebody !!!!


:elvis:

[motherchicken]

I like that you take pride in being an uneducated hick in here.

:gulp:

Clara/Thome might be incoherent most of the time, but even he is smarter than you.
I'd rather be an uneducated hick than a know it all pompous smartass. But that seems to work well for you. Love that divide and conquer strategy. I'm sure no one but the dingleberry squad cares where you rank anybody else on IQ. Pretty childish remark for such a self proffessed intelectually superior being. When you gonna say "I know you are but what am I" ?

[motherchicken]

I just had to quote this...

I'm somebody !!!!

I'm somebody !!!!

The new phone books are here !!!!!!!!!!

I'm somebody !!!!


:elvis:
That's what caused that African mercenary to attack him. Thank God for homeland security.

[clarathecarrot]

I like that you take pride in being an uneducated hick in here.

:gulp:

Clara/Thome might be incoherent most of the time, but even he is smarter than you.

I am only a humble.. serv..ahh? servaentern t soiy.vanty SOIVANT!! hey Moe hey Larry!!!

[LoungeMachine]

I'd rather be an uneducated hick than a know it all pompous smartass. ?

Good thing.

:gulp:

Congrats.

[jhale667]

Damn....so soon after ELBOW claimed it's "not possible" to own him... so much for that theory. :lol:




:guitar:

[motherchicken]

Good thing.

:gulp:

Congrats.
Everybodies got to play there part on the net. We can't all be "rockstar" geniouses.

[ELVIS]

Everybodies got to play there part on the net. We can't all be "rockstar" geniouses.

Spelling is a bitch...


:elvis:

[LoungeMachine]

Everybodies got to play there part on the net. We can't all be "rockstar" geniouses.

wow

:gulp:

Home schooled?

I know you said you banged your teacher once......

[LoungeMachine]

Spelling is a bitch...


:elvis:

:lol:

Right?

I just shake my head and wonder sometimes.

[ELVIS]

Damn....so soon after ELBOW claimed it's "not possible" to own him... so much for that theory. :lol:




:guitar:

I thought you were open late ??


:elvis:

[motherchicken]

Damn....so soon after ELBOW claimed it's "not possible" to own him... so much for that theory. :lol:




:guitar:
It's no wonder you, Nicky, Loungie and the rest of the dingleberries have never been owned. Nobody would want to own you. Even hoarders would throw you away if they found you.

[motherchicken]

Everybodies got to play there part on the net. We can't all be "rockstar" geniouses.
Just playing my part.

[LoungeMachine]

Just playing my part.

But you're not "playing"

:gulp:

You really are ignorant.

[motherchicken]

wow

:gulp:

Home schooled?


No just a product of the California public school system.
I'll bet you'll never forget your first experience with teacher loving. I remember you saying you couldn't sit down for days. Too bad those old posts got deleted.

[LoungeMachine]

No just a product of the California public school system.
.

Bullshit.

Many, many people went through the same system and learned how to spell above a third grade level.

So first you're playing a part, and now you're blaming your teachers.

:gulp:

I guess janitorial services don't expect much in the way of Language Arts.

[motherchicken]

But you're not "playing"

:gulp:

You really are ignorant.
Yet somehow you understand almost everything I say.

[jhale667]

I thought you were open late ??


:elvis:



STFU and post an MP3, BITCH! :lmao:




:guitar:

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Spelling is a bitch...


:elvis:

yes, tori is

[motherchicken]

Bullshit.


So first you're playing a part, and now you're blaming your teachers.

No dingleberry, I said playing my part. I'm not pretending to know it all. I said fuck school, I'd rather smoke pot and listen to rock and roll. I'm not blaming anyone. You make your bed, you lie in it. I'm cool with that. I'm not blowing smoke up everybodies ass. Tooting my own horn. That's your part.

[jhale667]

All this playful banter is one thing, but right now - at this very moment - Thomocarrot is in danger of accidentally snorting some gay skin cells that migrated into his DRAINO via an open window... !!

[Va Beach VH Fan]

betcha VA could give three shits

Nothing on this site surprises me anymore...

[Satan]

No dingleberry, I said playing my part. I'm not pretending to know it all. I said fuck school, I'd rather smoke pot and listen to rock and roll.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vpT58FMjpM

[ELVIS]

I heard gay skin cells can latch on to Sheetrock and linger for years...

You need special kryptonite paint to counter the gayness...


:elvis:

[LoungeMachine]

I heard gay skin cells can latch on to Sheetrock and linger for years...

You need special kryptonite paint to counter the gayness...


:elvis:

Do trailers have sheetrock?

:gulp:

[PETE'S BROTHER]

I heard gay skin cells can latch on to Sheetrock and linger for years...

You need special kryptonite paint to counter the gayness...


:elvis:

and thorruzeen

[LoungeMachine]

and thorruzeen

and zanacks

:gulp:

[Satan]

and thorruzeen

Nah, that only works if you're sitting in Queens, eating refried beans, and reading all the magazines.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQlM59sDJVo

[clarathecarrot]

I heard gay skin cells can latch on to Sheetrock and linger for years...

You need special kryptonite paint to counter the gayness...


:elvis:

Nope, wrong,,, they go Dormant..not just, latch on.

they remain dormant under the paint until ingested by hungry unwary humans.by sanding the paint and the heat reannimates the cells and there you have it.AIDS.


nO wait that is the movie of the week I am writing....never,mind

[jhale667]

I said fuck school, I'd rather smoke pot and listen to rock and roll. I'm not blaming anyone. You make your bed, you lie in it. I'm cool with that. I'm not blowing smoke up everybodies ass. Tooting my own horn.

Well , that explains it: you weren't a "functional" stoner, you're just a deadbeat! Congrats! :baaa:

[jhale667]

Nope, wrong,,, they go Dormant..not just, latch on.

they remain dormant under the paint until ingested by hungry unwary humans.by sanding the paint and the heat reannimates the cells and there you have it.AIDS.


nO wait that is the movie of the week I am writing....never,mind


That is some silly shit... aw, look who's bucking for their own "psyop" thread! :lmao:








:guitar:

[clarathecarrot]

That is some silly shit... aw, look who's bucking for their own "psyop" thread! :lmao:
:guitar:


You can't pin your lables on me MAN! I am a free radical on this site.

[clarathecarrot]

I was just using the Toilet seat a a wonderfull metaphore for people who believe what they are told, like they are children and unnable to decide for themselves what the truth is.

It's like people looking for life on other planets in order to prove we exist here..just silly.

I want to know why Elvis thinks AIDS is in the blood of drug users and that it can be transmitted to other animals, but isn't at the same time in a single blood cell.



EDIT: I am willing to discuss mircroscopically or simply attached to hematologically, if you want. I would like to know how these single cells infected with the AIDS Virus are able to overwhelm a host and then become a Immune Defficiency Virus that kills.

Never mind he could just repost post # 31 to easy.

EDIT: I changed Hemotologically to Hematologically. (my bad on discussion of blood dissorder nomenclature)

I really want Elvis to explain his possition of the facts surrounding his bashing of my thought on my statements here and post #31.

I am not affraid to learn something new.Be proven wrong, get my ass kicked, get owned, have Elvis write
ohhhh BURNnnnnnnn!! After I am slain and smotteth under his awesome'awesity.

Plus, I know I am right, Elvis you can use cut and paste or your own explanations in your own words.

[motherchicken]

Well , that explains it: you weren't a "functional" stoner, you're just a deadbeat! Congrats! :baaa:
Most of the dudes I hung with dropped out and disappeared. I run accross some of them time to time. Usually they're on SSI or trying to get SSI. There just weren't too many "functional" stoners in the area I came from. Unless you mean "functional" as in really good at growing weed. I know a few of them guys still. Now they grow it for the legal dispensaries and make good money doing it.
As far as me. I'm not rich. I go from job to job but I support myself. I don't suck on the government teet. I'd rather be broke and live here than rich and still live in LA. You can deal with those scumbags down there. I don't care if you live in fucking Beverly Hills you till have to deal with scum every day of the week down there. With the exception of Lounge most people up here are cool as cool gets.

[jhale667]

The girls here are hotter. :thumb: But none of this changes Thomocarrot's need for round-the-clock air filtration.

[Guitar Shark]

Spelling is a bitch...


:elvis:

Wow.

When you've been owned by ELVIS, that's when you truly know you've hit rock bottom.

It's all roses from here, sockfucker!

[Nickdfresh]

I'd rather be an uneducated hick than a know it all pompous smartass....

It's not like you have much choice in the matter...

[motherchicken]

Wow.

When you've been owned by ELVIS, that's when you truly know you've hit rock bottom.

It's all roses from here, sockfucker!
I know this site is dedicated to an aging rocker but don't you think it's time to update the cliches.

[motherchicken]

It's not like you have much choice in the matter...
I could say the same. You are what you are. Think hard Nicky, you'll figure it out.

[motherchicken]

The girls here are hotter. :thumb: But none of this changes Thomocarrot's need for round-the-clock air filtration.
They're only hotter because the diseases they carry raise their tempature.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Saying this in the kindest way possible.... Get the fuck back on topic....

[motherchicken]

A few years ago there was a claim that a boy born HIV positive had somehow been cured. Unfortunatly they claimed they would have to kill him to find out if it was true and how it was done.

[Dr. Love]

sheetrock? Is that something jhale uses to wipe his ass?

(bro you know I love you)

[Dr. Love]

Everybodies got to play there part on the net. We can't all be "rockstar" geniouses.

You'll always be a genious in my book.

[Nitro Express]

Most of the dudes I hung with dropped out and disappeared. I run accross some of them time to time. Usually they're on SSI or trying to get SSI. There just weren't too many "functional" stoners in the area I came from. Unless you mean "functional" as in really good at growing weed. I know a few of them guys still. Now they grow it for the legal dispensaries and make good money doing it.
As far as me. I'm not rich. I go from job to job but I support myself. I don't suck on the government teet. I'd rather be broke and live here than rich and still live in LA. You can deal with those scumbags down there. I don't care if you live in fucking Beverly Hills you till have to deal with scum every day of the week down there. With the exception of Lounge most people up here are cool as cool gets.

Oak Harbor, Washington?

[motherchicken]

Oak Harbor, Washington?
Fucking A.

[FORD]

Fucking A.

is that short for "Argyle"?

[motherchicken]

is that short for "Argyle"?
"That" is a word. Arg might be short for "Argyle". But I'm not sure. Did that help you?

[LoungeMachine]

If anyone has ever been to Oak Harbor they know it is devoid of anything remotely interesting or cultural...

The only 2 things going for it are the gorgeous Deception Pass Bridge [best used to leave Oak Harbor] and the Naval Air Station.

It's a hick-laden Republican community that was portrayed pretty well in An Officer and a Gentleman.

:gulp:

The sock-fucking ex felon janitor would fit right in there, I guess......

[ELVIS]

And you're not a hick ??

[ELVIS]

Or is it hack, or both ??

Maybe you're a hack hick...

[jhale667]

Maybe you're a hack hick...

Oh, come on...that title is SOOOOOO you... :biggrin:









:guitar:

[motherchicken]

If anyone has ever been to Oak Harbor they know it is devoid of anything remotely interesting or cultural...

The only 2 things going for it are the gorgeous Deception Pass Bridge [best used to leave Oak Harbor] and the Naval Air Station.

It's a hick-laden Republican community that was portrayed pretty well in An Officer and a Gentleman.

:gulp:

The sock-fucking ex felon janitor would fit right in there, I guess......
If I said shit stinks you'd say it didn't. Then your dingleberry buddies would agree with you.

[ELVIS]

Hahaha...

[Nitro Express]

If anyone has ever been to Oak Harbor they know it is devoid of anything remotely interesting or cultural...

The only 2 things going for it are the gorgeous Deception Pass Bridge [best used to leave Oak Harbor] and the Naval Air Station.

It's a hick-laden Republican community that was portrayed pretty well in An Officer and a Gentleman.

:gulp:

The sock-fucking ex felon janitor would fit right in there, I guess......

There's Republican communities west of the Cascades? Say it ain't so.

[motherchicken]

There's Republican communities west of the Cascades? Say it ain't so.
If you're not obsessed with politics who gives a shit. I lived in the south for awhile. And I've lived in L A. If the people treat you decent who cares?

[Nitro Express]

I never cared about politics until I started owning things. Beleive me, once you own some property or a business you will get very involved in politics because there is always someone trying to take it away from you in the name of doing good. Politics is all about who get's what. That's all it is. The more you own the more you have at stake the more you get into it.

The thing is you can get along with people just fine and even have a lot in common but if your politics differs; especially, during hard economic times like now, you can end up really hating each other. So really it's best not to talk about it in general. That is why so many websites have a no politics rule.

[motherchicken]

A no politics rule would be meaningless here. The site would be the same. People would still find something to fight about. It's human nature.
My brother lives in Louisiana. He is as sure that everything wrong with this country is because of the democrats as Some other here are that the republicans are to blame. Some people just can't see that one side can't always be right.

[Little Texan]

My brother lives in Louisiana.

He wouldn't happen to be an ex-nurse named Harvey, would he?

[motherchicken]

That would be no.

[LoungeMachine]

Sockfucker needed 2 attempts at that last post.....

:gulp:

[LoungeMachine]

And you're not a hick ??

Nice try at projection, Jethro....

I'm not the bayou-dwelling tin foil hat nutjob posting from his cell phone 24/7 while the AM Radio is blaring.....

:gulp:

[Little Texan]

Sockfucker needed 2 attempts at that last post.....

:gulp:

The first attempt was something about a blue oyster bar in Dallas.

[FORD]

If anyone has ever been to Oak Harbor they know it is devoid of anything remotely interesting or cultural...

The only 2 things going for it are the gorgeous Deception Pass Bridge [best used to leave Oak Harbor] and the Naval Air Station.

It's a hick-laden Republican community that was portrayed pretty well in An Officer and a Gentleman.

:gulp:

The sock-fucking ex felon janitor would fit right in there, I guess......

Ironically, "An Officer and A Gentleman" wasn't even filmed in Oak Harbor, but at Fort Warden (which is now a state park) outside of Port Townsend. Which is a much cooler place than Oak Harbor by the way.

Used to buy all my concert tickets there at a little record store called "Quimper Sound" before TicketBastard went online. Small town.... smaller lines.... better seats. Before Chimpy's wars doubled the gas prices, obviously. But it might still be worth the trip if there were no such thing as online pre-sales.

Haven't been up there in a while, but it looks like Quimper is still in business, God bless 'em....

http://www.quimpersound.com/cont.html

[motherchicken]

Sockfucker needed 2 attempts at that last post.....

:gulp:

Did you alert the media? This is big news. Man edits post at RothArmy. The horror, the horror.

[motherchicken]

He wouldn't happen to be an ex-nurse named Harvey, would he?
Nope..............
Now Loungie can alert the media about another post being editted. Front page shit.

[FORD]

Harvey??

So that means ELVIS is either a 6 ft invisible rabbit.... or a murdered gay civil rights leader?

[ELVIS]

I'm not Harvey...

He works for the CIA...

[motherchicken]

I'm not Harvey...

He works for the CIA...
Was Harvey the guy that helped Nick out when that African mercenary stalked him from Australia?

[FORD]

I'm not Harvey...

He works for the CIA...

No, that was LEE Harvey........

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Harvey??

So that means ELVIS is either a 6 ft invisible rabbit.... or a murdered gay civil rights leader?

I did that, he originally put E's real name in there....

[jhale667]

I did that, he originally put E's real name in there....

You should've left it, since fuckface has no problem with doing that , and has done it to people himself.

[ELVIS]

Oh really ??

You're such a fucking mean spirited douchebag...

[jhale667]

Oh really ??

You're such a fucking mean spirited douchebag...


Fair is fair, isn't it?

[Nickdfresh]

Was Harvey the guy that helped Nick out when that African mercenary stalked him from Australia?

Or maybe he's the guy who helped you with your apparent and repeated longing for sucking cock?

[Nickdfresh]

Not to get back on topic here, but aren't bone-marrow transplants extremely painful for all involved and a pretty tedious way to get rid of the HIV?

[Diamondjimi]

If I said shit stinks you'd say it didn't. Then your dingleberry buddies would agree with you.


Hahaha...

Awww, Sockraper has a friend... how sweet.

[Diamondjimi]

Not to get back on topic here, but aren't bone-marrow transplants extremely painful for all involved and a pretty tedious way to get rid of the HIV?


Probably, but it seems a better deal than a death sentence.

[jhale667]

Not to get back on topic here, but aren't bone-marrow transplants extremely painful for all involved and a pretty tedious way to get rid of the HIV?

Doesn't the process nearly kill you still? IIRC it used to involve irradiating the person's existing marrow, basically killing it, and then once implanted, your system starts to use the donor marrow to rebuild? Seems like it'd be way risky for a healthy person, much less someone who's system is already impaired by HIV.

[ELVIS]

Not to mention the cost of around $250,000 per treatment...

Leave it to the medical community to come up with the most expensive treatments to bill to the insurance companies...

[LoungeMachine]

Not to mention the cost of around $250,000 per treatment...

Leave it to the medical community to come up with the most expensive treatments to bill to the insurance companies...


What is a life worth?

:gulp:

Disgusting when people put a dollar figure on life.....

[clarathecarrot]

Not to get back on topic here, but aren't bone-marrow transplants extremely painful for all involved and a pretty tedious way to get rid of the HIV?

Tedious perhaps .... Delicious, deffinately.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_SF4hupHXTb4/S03G3ry-xbI/AAAAAAAACAc/qQYGDvXV1Ps/s400/Me.JPG

[Nitro Express]

What is a life worth?

:gulp:

Disgusting when people put a dollar figure on life.....

It's nothing new. It's been done forever. Look at the movie Titanic. The people with less money get locked in steerage and the rich get the lifeboats.

In the Soviet Union that was supposed to make things fair and everyone equal there was an elite class who were more equal than others.

There is the problem and it sucks but often the solution fixes nothing and makes things even worse. The only time it works is when you have decent people in leadership positions. Good luck finding any.

[LoungeMachine]

It's nothing new. It's been done forever. Look at the movie Titanic. .

Well argued.....

:gulp:

lmao

[Nickdfresh]

Probably, but it seems a better deal than a death sentence.

I'm not sure it is the death sentence it once was with all the drugs...

[ELVIS]

What is a life worth?

:gulp:

Disgusting when people put a dollar figure on life.....

It's disgusting when the doctors and big pharma game the system and use patients insurance policies as ATM machines...

[ELVIS]

And what's your own life worth...don't get HIV in the first place...

[LoungeMachine]

It's disgusting when the doctors and big pharma game the system and use patients insurance policies as ATM machines...

Agreed.

Medicare Part E

:gulp:

Single payer, getting the PROFITS out of Health Care is the only answer...

[ELVIS]

Yeah, but people must get proactive about their health and nutrition...

No doctor, no system, no insurance plan, and no government is going to take care of you...

[LoungeMachine]

Yeah, but people must get proactive about their health and nutrition...

No doctor, no system, no insurance plan, and no government is going to take care of you...

Eating your veggies doesn't mean anything without serious Health Care Reform.....

:gulp:

[ELVIS]

Educating yourself and becoming your own personal health advocate makes all the difference in the world...

Stupid people will sign up for free health care in droves even if the data proves it kills you...

All the so called healthcare in the world does nothing if you're not proactive in taking care of yourself...

[Northern Girl]

aren't bone-marrow transplants extremely painful for all involved and a pretty tedious way to get rid of the HIV?

That's what Robin Roberts from GMA will need soon, and she made it sound like it's not much worse than giving blood these days. I remember a classmate doing it for her brother back in high school and it sounded pretty intense, but apparently not anymore.

[ELVIS]

That's bullshit...

[LoungeMachine]

All the so called healthcare in the world does nothing if you're not proactive in taking care of yourself...

You think healthcare is only needed when you don't take care of yourself?

Ever been in a serious traffic accident?
Ever needed emergency surgery through no fault of your own?
Ever inherited a hereditary disease?

:gulp:

Quit acting like the only people in need of healthcare are stupid and/or lazy.

I'm finding it harder and harder to believe you used to be in the field.

[ELVIS]

I never said that...

Emergency and trauma medicine is great, but the medical community has no idea how to treat chronic disease...

Everything they do revolves around big pharma and treating symptoms with dangerous pharmaceuticals rather than treating the underlying cause...

[ELVIS]

And I had 22 years in the field in very specialized areas and I see it for what it is... Mostly bullshit...

[LoungeMachine]

I never said that...

Emergency and trauma medicine is great, but the medical community has no idea how to treat chronic disease...

Everything they do revolves around big pharma and treating symptoms with dangerous pharmaceuticals rather than treating the underlying cause...

No idea?

I think you're over-reaching.

:gulp:

Cart before the horse, here.....GET THE PROFIT OUT OF HEALTHCARE FIRST...THEN YOU CAN FIX EVERYTHING ELSE.

Nothing happens until then. [just like politics....nothing will happen until you take the profit out of politics]

[ELVIS]

Dude, I know what I'm taking about on this...

Doctors don't practice medicine anymore, they follow guidelines put in place by big pharma lobbies...

It's bullshit and it kills and harms people...

Wrap your head around this fact:

Medical treatment and big pharma in the US kills 780,000 people per year...

Look it up, I'm not kidding...

[ELVIS]

And it's owned by big pharma...

We will never get out of the for profit medicine until other alternative medicine is recognized by the western world...

It's a big pharma monopoly and I want nothing to do with it...

[FORD]

Dude, I know what I'm taking about on this...

Doctors don't practice medicine anymore, they follow guidelines put in place by big pharma lobbies...

It's bullshit and it kills and harms people...

Wrap your head around this fact:

Medical treatment and big pharma in the US kills 780,000 people per year...

Look it up, I'm not kidding...

So as Lounge said. (and as I've said, and as Thom Hartmann, Mike Malloy, Dennis Kucinich, Bernie Sanders, Rocky Anderson, and many others have said)

DO YOU AGREE THAT IT'S TIME TO TAKE THE FUCKING PROFIT OUT OF HEALTHCARE, OR NOT?

Eliminate the insurance companies entirely, and regulate the Hell out of the drug pushers, in regards to the safety, effectiveness, AND cost of their poisons.

And if a drug (Plavix, for example) has been proven to be totally useless shit which is no more useful than common aspirin (but far more deadly) then just pull it off the market altogether.

It's not like Prohibition... nobody's going to open a speakeasy in their basement to sell useless pills you can't even get high on.