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Hardrock69
08-21-2012, 04:29 AM
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/15/paul-ryan-praised-stimulus-spending-in-letters-to-obama-official/



Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) asked the Obama administration for millions from the $840 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act to help an energy conservation company in Wisconsin, telling his constituents the money would help “create or retain approximately 7,600 new jobs” in his district for up to six years.

Despite repeatedly requesting funds and praising the stimulus in correspondence with the Obama administration, Ryan has consistently criticized the policy in public, calling it a failure and insisting that it has created no jobs and in fact only “made things worse.” On the other hand, just one year after the stimulus passed the Council of Economic Advisers published an analysis that said President Barack Obama’s Recovery Act was responsible for creating or saving more than 3 million American jobs.

Ryan’s criticism might be called into question after reading letters he wrote to Steven Chu, the Obama administration’s energy secretary, asking for stimulus funds. The letters were obtained by Boston Globe reporters Bryan Bender and Brian MacQuarrie, who note that in one Ryan actually says he’s “pleased” that the Obama administration had made energy conservation and reducing carbon emissions a priority, saying it will “stimulate the local economy by creating new jobs.”

Ryan’s own budget plan (PDF), however, proposes significant cuts to funding for clean energy programs like solar, wind and geothermal energy programs — a point made by Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA) during a Tuesday appearance on CNBC. “The private sector won’t pony up unless we have things like loan guarantees for risky projects,” he said.

Ryan’s advocacy ultimately triggered a $20 million grant for the Wisconsin Energy Conservation Corporation, which helps train and finance home and business owners who want to make their structures more efficient, and provides financing for renewable energy projects.

“If Congressman Ryan is asked to help a Wisconsin entity applying for existing federal grant funds, he does not believe flawed policy should get in the way of doing his job and providing a legitimate constituent service to his employers,” a Romney campaign spokesperson told the Globe.

In addition, Ryan voted for President Bush’s $700 billion bailout of the nation’s largest banks, the Troubled Asset Relief Fund, and pleaded with his House colleagues to pass it. “This bill offends my principles,” he said. “But I’m going to vote for this bill in order to preserve my principles, in order to preserve this free enterprise system. This is a Herbert Hoover moment. He made some big mistakes after the Great Depression, and we lived those consequences for decades. Let’s not make that mistake.”

Ryan’s budget calls TARP a “slush fund for large private institutions” that’s “morphed into crony capitalism at its worst,” even though his running mate, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, claims that it saved the U.S. from entering another Great Depression.

While much of the TARP funds have been recovered through loan repayments and asset sales, the U.S. Treasury said Monday that taxpayers will still ultimately be out more than $47 billion overall once the program winds down.

Hardrock69
08-21-2012, 04:48 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/17/paul-ryan-gm-federal-funds_n_1799515.html?utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false


GOP vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan took a swipe at President Barack Obama on Thursday for failing to rescue a General Motors factory in his Wisconsin congressional district, calling it "one more broken promise" on the Democratic administration's record.

"I remember President Obama visiting it when he was first running, saying he'll keep that plant open," Ryan said during a campaign stop. "One of the reasons that plant got shut down was $4 gasoline. You see, this costs jobs. The president's terrible energy policies are costing us jobs."

The attack has already received a fair amount of ridicule because the Janesville, Wis., plant actually closed during the last year of George W. Bush's presidency. What hasn't really been emphasized is whether Ryan clearly knew this and made the charge nonetheless.

According to a rudimentary LexisNexis search, Ryan made multiple public pleas to GM, including op-eds in his home state newspaper, to keep the plant open. He and fellow Wisconsin lawmakers went to the automobile company's headquarters to present plans to extend the plant's life. When the Bush administration itself called the decision to close the plant evidence that the auto industry was trimming fat and improving its bottom line, Ryan called the news "gut-wrenching."

And as it became clear in early-fall 2008 that GM wouldn't relent, Ryan publicly touted the federal tax money he secured to help displaced workers -- a use of funds that would seem at odds with his limited-government, fiscal conservative image.

The timeline is worth recounting now that it has popped up in Ryan's stump speech.

In April 29, 2008, it was announced that 750 workers at the GM plant in Janesville would lose their jobs. Ryan, according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, said he would "work closely with those in Janesville facing uncertainty in the months ahead and do all that I can to ensure that they get the assistance they need."

On May 1, 2008, then-Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wis.), along with Sen. Herb Kohl (D-Wis.) and Ryan, sent a letter to Rick Wagoner, then GM CEO, urging the company to join government, community organizations and employers to help the affected workers.

"We ask that you give every consideration to maintaining GM's presence in Janesville, as well as taking future steps to ensure the continued success of the Janesville plant, including considering the assignment of new production models at the plant," the lawmakers wrote.

On May 4, 2008, Ryan wrote an op-ed in the Journal Sentinel calling for a comprehensive energy plan in light of the news that the GM plant was firing 750 people.

"As a fifth-generation native of Janesville, I grew up learning the old saying, "As GM goes, so goes Janesville,'" Ryan wrote.

It was announced in early June that GM would indeed close the Janesville plant and three others. Ryan said it was "gut wrenching."

Later, he joined Feingold and Kohl in writing another letter to Wagoner. "On May 1 of this year, we wrote to you asking that GM take future steps to ensure the continued success of the Janesville plant, including considering the assignment of new production models at the plant. We renew that request now," the letter read.

On June 4, the Bush administration framed GM's decision as evidence the troubled automaker was getting its finances in order.

The Bush White House spokeswoman, Dana Perino, said it was "a sign that Detroit continues to adapt and evolve and address the change in consumer tastes and attitudes. ... They're adapting well and they'll make these changes and hopefully be able to pull themselves up out of what has been a rough several years."

Then-Sen. Obama, who had visited the Janesville plant in February, issued a statement.

"My heart goes out to the workers and families affected by the closing of these GM plants," he said. "Today's news is a painful reminder not only of the challenges America faces in our global economy, but of George Bush's failed economic policies." He finished by pledging to help domestic automakers "with the funding they need to retool their factories and make fuel-efficient and alternative-fuel cars. And we'll invest in efforts to make sure that the cars of the future are made where they always have been -- in the United States."

Ryan was quoted in a Detroit News article that day. "Growing up and living in Janesville, this is something we've always feared," the congressman said, calling the closure "a big psychological and economic blow to our community and our state; but Janesville will survive this, because we simply have to survive this."

By September of 2008, Ryan, who supported the auto bailout so long as the funds didn't come from the financial sector bailout, was still working aggressively to get GM to change its mind. He, along with Feingold and Rep. Tammy Baldwin (D-Wis.), met with company officials in Detroit and "made clear what a tremendous asset the people of Janesville's GM plant are to GM, and how important GM jobs are to the Janesville community." On Sept. 13, the Herald Times Reporter said Ryan and then-Gov. Jim Doyle (D) had presented an "aggressive incentive plan" to GM leaders.

But by then, GM's shutdown plans were set. On Oct. 11, 2008, the Journal Sentinel reported that GM would announce it would close the Janesville plant around Christmas, "at least a year earlier than the company had initially projected."

Less than a month earlier, Ryan was making preparations to help the displaced workers and using federal funds to pick up the tab. On Sept. 18, his office put out a statement that it had joined forces with the U.S. Commerce Department's Economic Development Agency to secure a $450,000 grant to support economic initiatives for the Janesville area.

"This has been a gut-wrenching summer for southern Wisconsin," Ryan said, "and today's announcement provides our community with much-needed support. I remain firmly optimistic that Janesville's best days are ahead."

On Oct. 2, Ryan announced that the U.S. Department of Labor had awarded a $1.6 million national emergency grant to the Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development. The money would help "dislocated workers in Rock County's automotive industry, including workers at General Motors, Lear Corporation, Logistics Services Inc., and United Industries."

Nickdfresh
08-21-2012, 10:13 AM
Threads merged...

Hardrock69
08-21-2012, 04:53 PM
Oh, cool. Sure, no worries, mate.

I guess the common subject of this thread is "Idiocy" and "Paul Ryan". ;)

BigBadBrian
08-22-2012, 09:20 AM
Oh, cool. Sure, no worries, mate.

I guess the common subject of this thread is "Idiocy" and "Paul Ryan". ;)

Paul Ryan is brilliant compared to anything the Democrats have, particularly the Teleprompter-in-Chief and his sidekick Idiot Joe.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zENuDflPejY/SbBOQGTxxGI/AAAAAAAADqU/OCBJ1DzMpGo/s400/obama+teleprompter.JPGhttp://bp0.blogger.com/_Fp5_e5aPqUY/Rv4rKX5r23I/AAAAAAAAA8k/srVPVw_abPw/s400/Biden_brain.jpg

Nickdfresh
08-22-2012, 09:41 AM
Paul Ryan is brilliant compared to anything the Democrats have, particularly the Teleprompter-in-Chief and his sidekick Idiot Joe.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zENuDflPejY/SbBOQGTxxGI/AAAAAAAADqU/OCBJ1DzMpGo/s400/obama+teleprompter.JPGhttp://bp0.blogger.com/_Fp5_e5aPqUY/Rv4rKX5r23I/AAAAAAAAA8k/srVPVw_abPw/s400/Biden_brain.jpg

Thanks for adding your boundless intelligence and informed opine to this thread, but I'm pretty sure all presidents have used teleprompters since Ike. Are you calling Reagan dumb?

jhale667
08-22-2012, 09:49 AM
The teahadist "teleprompter" thing is so OLD and TIRED... like the POTUS can't wing it - we've seen it done. He can kick all of their asses intellectually minus the 'prompter with one lobe of his brain tied behind his back....fucking idiots.

Brie thought Palin was "brilliant" too, so consider the source.

Va Beach VH Fan
08-22-2012, 10:10 AM
We'll just see how 'ol Mitt sounds during the debates, when he, Invisible Man forbid, actually gets specific with ANYTHING....

BigBadBrian
08-22-2012, 10:22 AM
The teahadist "teleprompter" thing is so OLD and TIRED...

Liberals should not be talking about old and tired arguments. You say the same, boring, unimaginative shit day after day.

BigBadBrian
08-22-2012, 10:23 AM
Thanks for adding your boundless intelligence and informed opine to this thread, but I'm pretty sure all presidents have used teleprompters since Ike. Are you calling Reagan dumb?

Using them once and awhile is one thing. Obama, on the other hand, clearly can't function without them.

BigBadBrian
08-22-2012, 10:27 AM
We'll just see how 'ol Mitt sounds during the debates, when he, Invisible Man forbid, actually gets specific with ANYTHING....

Mitt will destroy Barack "I really don't know who my daddy is" Obama. What'll be even more interesting to watch is Paul Ryan absolutely kill (figuratively, of course) that moron Joe "The Idiot" Biden. :biggrin:
Obama will run out of slogans in the first 5 minutes.

jhale667
08-22-2012, 10:27 AM
Liberals should not be talking about old and tired arguments. You say the same, boring, unimaginative shit day after day.

This from the guy who's been regurgitating the same pathetic shtick for years now...

jhale667
08-22-2012, 10:28 AM
Mitt will destroy Barack Obama.

And then you'll WAKE UP. Where's that going to happen in the alternate-reality fucking bizarro world debate?

BigBadBrian
08-22-2012, 10:29 AM
This from the guy who's been regurgitating the same pathetic shtick for years now...

Quit your whining...you KNOW I'm correct. :gulp:

DLR Bridge
08-22-2012, 10:35 AM
Using them once and awhile is one thing. Obama, on the other hand, clearly can't function without them.

Did you really just write that? The guy always speaks with intelligence and conviction when off the cuff. Bush couldn't even get the old "fool me once" line out of his trap let alone anything worth paying attention to when he spoke.

hambon4lif
08-22-2012, 10:36 AM
Using them once and awhile is one thing. Obama, on the other hand, clearly can't function without them.You should ask him if you could borrow it so you can trick people into thinking you're not inept.:thumb:

ELVIS
08-22-2012, 01:20 PM
I guess tacoboy is the lone Obama supporter on this site ??

Angel
08-22-2012, 06:11 PM
I guess tacoboy is the lone Obama supporter on this site ??

What's YOUR heritage, ELBOW? I'm sure we can find some appropriate racial slurs for you...

Nickdfresh
08-22-2012, 08:02 PM
What's YOUR heritage, ELBOW? I'm sure we can find some appropriate racial slurs for you...

Inbred cajun white trash Jesus freak...

Jesus Christ
08-22-2012, 08:38 PM
Inbred cajun white trash Jesus freak...

I know not whose freak Harvey is, but he is not Mine, as he considers My teachings as the liberal dung of cattle :(

BigBadBrian
08-22-2012, 09:00 PM
What's YOUR heritage, ELBOW? I'm sure we can find some appropriate racial slurs for you...

That wasn't a racial slur. You need to be around here a little more so you don't put your ass in your mouth and maybe understand the inside jokes.

BigBadBrian
08-22-2012, 09:04 PM
Did you really just write that? The guy always speaks with intelligence and conviction when off the cuff.

I realize the main stream media you evidently follow so closely wouldn't dare publish anything but your boy's best performances. Why don't you Google "Obama gaffes?" There's no shortage of ammunition. Most were made when he wasn't using a teleprompter or went off script.

BigBadBrian
08-22-2012, 09:23 PM
Here's another very recent image of our Teleprompter-in-Chief Reuters is getting shit-on for. :lmao:

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/LiPypGSCVveA0R21d4fpjw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0zMzU7cT04NTt3PTUxMg--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/Reuters/2012-08-21T184605Z_420916141_GM1E88M04VM01_RTRMADP_3_USA-CAMPAIGN-OBAMA.JPG

ELVIS
08-22-2012, 09:33 PM
http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/LiPypGSCVveA0R21d4fpjw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0zMzU7cT04NTt3PTUxMg--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/Reuters/2012-08-21T184605Z_420916141_GM1E88M04VM01_RTRMADP_3_USA-CAMPAIGN-OBAMA.JPG

That's awesome !!!


:biggrin:

ELVIS
08-22-2012, 09:34 PM
http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/LiPypGSCVveA0R21d4fpjw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0zMzU7cT04NTt3PTUxMg--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/Reuters/2012-08-21T184605Z_420916141_GM1E88M04VM01_RTRMADP_3_USA-CAMPAIGN-OBAMA.JPG

Oprompter 2012 !!

Jesus Christ
08-22-2012, 09:50 PM
Looks like some photo shopped false witnessing going on in that picture.

ELVIS
08-22-2012, 09:53 PM
looks real to me, but it's awesome either way...

Nickdfresh
08-22-2012, 10:02 PM
I realize the main stream media....

You mean like the Fox News "friends" you watch diligently?

hambon4lif
08-22-2012, 10:55 PM
I realize the main stream media you evidently follow so closely wouldn't dare publish anything but your boy's best performances. Why don't you Google "Obama gaffes?" There's no shortage of ammunition. Most were made when he wasn't using a teleprompter or went off script.You're just trying to play down your own stupidity for the time you actually went and "put food on your family" because Dubya told you to.

You were only doing what you were told. You always do. :thumb:

ELVIS
08-23-2012, 02:26 AM

ELVIS
08-23-2012, 02:28 AM

Jesus Christ
08-23-2012, 02:40 AM
I see ye are still bearing false witness :(

Hardrock69
08-23-2012, 03:31 AM
You should ask him if you could borrow it so you can trick people into thinking you're not inept.:thumb:

:lmao:

BigBadBrian
08-23-2012, 06:58 AM
You're just trying to play down your own stupidity for the time you actually went and "put food on your family" because Dubya told you to.

You were only doing what you were told. You always do. :thumb:

I find it admirable you always feel the need to stick up for your boyfriends like DLR Bridge here. You're two queers in a pod.

BigBadBrian
08-23-2012, 07:02 AM
Looks like some photo shopped false witnessing going on in that picture.

It's real, dumbass. I know you didn't see it on all the flaky news sources you frequent, but that doesn't mean it's not true :gulp:

BigBadBrian
08-23-2012, 07:06 AM
http://lmaobama.com/wp-content/uploads/clinton-obama-teleprompter.jpg

Va Beach VH Fan
08-23-2012, 08:52 AM
What's your point?

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k55/ferr3816/TeleprompterBushI.jpg

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k55/ferr3816/TeleprompterBushII.jpg

Va Beach VH Fan
08-23-2012, 09:34 AM
By the way, Happy Birthday, you right-wing fucknut.... ;)

jhale667
08-23-2012, 09:38 AM
What's your point?

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k55/ferr3816/TeleprompterBushI.jpg

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k55/ferr3816/TeleprompterBushII.jpg


That conservatards desperately need to believe Obama's the first POTUS to use a teleprompter, and that he can't function w/o one...otherwise they have to admit a black dude's smarter than they are.




:guitar:

ELVIS
08-23-2012, 09:49 AM
It's BBB's boithday ??

DLR Bridge
08-23-2012, 10:00 AM
I realize the main stream media you evidently follow so closely wouldn't dare publish anything but your boy's best performances. Why don't you Google "Obama gaffes?" There's no shortage of ammunition. Most were made when he wasn't using a teleprompter or went off script.

So, aside from posting Fox News reports, you Google things. C'mon man, Google & You Tube are comic gold mines for everybody's fuck ups. What really was your point?

ELVIS
08-23-2012, 10:17 AM
Here's one...




:biggrin:

BigBadBrian
08-24-2012, 10:12 AM
Watch Dumbocrat DWS get caught in a lie

BigBadBrian
08-24-2012, 10:14 AM
What really was your point?

You said Obama is great speaking off the cuff without a teleprompter. I proved you wrong. NEXT!!!

DLR Bridge
08-24-2012, 10:46 AM
You said Obama is great speaking off the cuff without a teleprompter. I proved you wrong. NEXT!!!

You proved that a few brain farts were caught on camera. He's still ions better than his opponents at speaking off the cuff. He handed McCain his ass on a platter and you know it.

BigBadBrian
08-24-2012, 11:52 AM
You proved that a few brain farts were caught on camera. He's still ions better than his opponents at speaking off the cuff. He handed McCain his ass on a platter and you know it.

Obama is good at repeating what his handler's have taught him and spouting the same slogans over and over. He can't think on his feet though.

Nickdfresh
08-24-2012, 02:54 PM
Obama is good at repeating what his handler's have taught him and spouting the same slogans over and over. He can't think on his feet though.

Really dude? With the "Obama is dumb" crap angle. Nobody, not even his ardent Republican enemies thinks that. But what is ironic is that you spent a good deal of your time here fluffing Dumbya's balls and then masturbating out loud over that dumb fucking whore from Alaska...