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Seshmeister
08-23-2012, 09:59 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/24/world/europe/botched-restoration-of-ecce-homo-fresco-shocks-spain.html?_r=1


Despite Good Intentions, a Fresco in Spain Is Ruined

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/08/24/world/europe/24christ-span/24christ-span-articleLarge-v3.jpg
The three versions of the “ecce homo” fresco of Jesus. From left, the original version by Elías García Martínez, a 19th-century painter; a deteriorated version of the fresco; the restored version by Cecilia Giménez.

By RAPHAEL MINDER
Published: August 23, 2012

MADRID — A case of suspected vandalism in a church in a northeastern village in Spain has turned out to be probably the worst art restoration project of all time.

An elderly woman stepped forward this week to claim responsibility for disfiguring a century-old “ecce homo” fresco of Jesus crowned with thorns, in Santuario de la Misericordia, a Roman Catholic church in Borja, near the city of Zaragoza.

Ecce homo, or behold the man, refers to an artistic motif that depicts Jesus, usually bound and with a crown of thorns, right before his crucifixion.

The woman, Cecilia Giménez, who is in her 80s, said on Spanish national television that she had tried to restore the fresco, which she called her favorite local representation of Jesus, because she was upset that parts of it had flaked off due to moisture on the church’s walls.

The authorities in Borja said they had suspected vandalism at first, but then determined that the shocking alterations had been made by an elderly parishioner. The authorities said she had acted on her own.

But Ms. Giménez later defended herself, saying she could not understand the uproar because she had worked in broad daylight and had tried to salvage the fresco with the approval of the local clergy. “The priest knew it,” she told Spanish television. “I’ve never tried to do anything hidden.”

Ms. Giménez said she had worked on the fresco using a 10-year-old picture of it, but she eventually left Jesus with a half-beard and, some say, a monkeylike appearance. The fresco’s botched restoration came to light this month when descendants of the 19th-century artist, Elías García Martínez, proposed making a donation toward its upkeep.

News of the disfiguring prompted Twitter users and bloggers to post parodies online inserting Ms. Giménez’s version of the fresco into other artworks. Some played on the simian appearance of the portrait.

The Borja authorities said they were now considering taking legal action against Ms. Giménez, although they insisted that their priority was to try to return the work to its original state, under the guidance of art historians.

ELVIS
08-23-2012, 10:20 PM
What I want to know is, what were this woman's credentials ??

ELVIS
08-23-2012, 10:21 PM
I could do 1000 times better than that...


:biggrin:

ashstralia
08-23-2012, 10:30 PM
He doesn't look remotely Jewish!!

ELVIS
08-23-2012, 10:35 PM
She must have done that on purpose...

gbranton
08-23-2012, 10:37 PM
She needs to stick to scribblin on the shithouse wall.

gbranton
08-23-2012, 11:30 PM
Monkey Jesus sucks, Quicksand Jesus on the other hand........is a classic.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D9vZ9YxjjHP8&v=9vZ9YxjjHP8&gl=US

FORD
08-23-2012, 11:34 PM
Probably just as well.... I heard that Pat Robertson was going to demand that they change the name of the painting to "Ecce Hetero" anyway.

jhale667
08-23-2012, 11:42 PM
No. Fucking. Way.

Hardrock69
08-24-2012, 06:06 AM
They showed an interview with her on ABC yesterday. 80 years old, but to do something like that, she must be senile.

Seshmeister
08-24-2012, 08:14 AM

Seshmeister
08-24-2012, 08:59 AM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/225150_10151196323176667_719804832_n.jpg

ZahZoo
08-24-2012, 09:36 AM
What I want to know is, what were this woman's credentials ??

Let's just hope she doesn't hold a valid drivers license and a running car...

Nickdfresh
08-24-2012, 11:42 AM
What I want to know is, what were this woman's credentials ??

Her resume reads, "batshit crazy senile nearsighted women."

ELVIS
08-24-2012, 12:14 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/225150_10151196323176667_719804832_n.jpg

That's awesome !!


:biggrin:

envy_me
08-24-2012, 12:22 PM
What a moron! Somebody shoot her! That is art.
Imagine having this bitch as mother in law.

Angel
08-24-2012, 01:22 PM
What a moron! Somebody shoot her! That is art.
Imagine having this bitch as mother in law.

An 80 year old amateur, and according to her, the priest gave her permission to try.

Please explain how this makes this ELDERLY lady into a bitch.

People are making way too much out of this, to the point of wanting to shoot an OLD lady?

The poor thing was visibly shaking when I saw her on the news because she felt so bad.

envy_me
08-24-2012, 01:32 PM
And she couldn't see after a couple of stokes with the brush that it isn't working. She went all the way, painted the mouth out of angle, everything. Got rid of the nose, who needs the nose...
There are reasons why the guards were there.
Priest gave her permission, yeah right, sure...

This is typical if hard headed people not realizing that they aren't always allowed to do what they like. She ruined a piece of art, this is an old, unique, probably priceless painting. Off course she's a moron no matter how old she is.

DONNIEP
08-24-2012, 01:45 PM
I thought the title of this thread was Honkey Jesus. :gulp:

hambon4lif
08-24-2012, 02:02 PM
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/08/24/world/europe/24christ-span/24christ-span-articleLarge-v3.jpgcoming soon to a motion picture theatre near you....

The Passion of The Planet Of The Apes

summer 2013

:lmao:

envy_me
08-24-2012, 02:06 PM
coming soon to a motion picture theatre near you....

The Passion of The Planet Of The Apes

summer 2013

:lmao:

Starring Mel Gibson :D

chefcraig
08-24-2012, 02:17 PM
Let's just hope she doesn't hold a valid drivers license and a running car...

Nah, if that were the case she'd be living in South Florida, not Madrid.


http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg307/angellovernumberone/Funny%20Aged%20People%20And%20Funny%20Cartoons/OldLadyDriving.gif

Angel
08-24-2012, 03:43 PM
And she couldn't see after a couple of stokes with the brush that it isn't working. She went all the way, painted the mouth out of angle, everything. Got rid of the nose, who needs the nose...
There are reasons why the guards were there.
Priest gave her permission, yeah right, sure...

This is typical if hard headed people not realizing that they aren't always allowed to do what they like. She ruined a piece of art, this is an old, unique, probably priceless painting. Off course she's a moron no matter how old she is.

Did something stupid? Yes. That does not make her a bitch that is a horrid mother in law and should be shot, ffs.

If we shot everybody that did something stupid there wouldn't be any humans left on the earth...

Nickdfresh
08-24-2012, 03:45 PM
Well, maybe she's a knack for modernism?

http://itthing.com/wp-content/uploads/Edvard_Munch_The_Scream-WL400.jpg

envy_me
08-24-2012, 03:52 PM
Did something stupid? Yes. That does not make her a bitch that is a horrid mother in law and should be shot, ffs.

If we shot everybody that did something stupid there wouldn't be any humans left on the earth...

Let's leave it here, we won't agree. No point in discussing...

envy_me
08-24-2012, 03:56 PM
Well, maybe she's a knack for modernism?

http://itthing.com/wp-content/uploads/Edvard_Munch_The_Scream-WL400.jpg

I don't even wanna think about what she would do to him :dickhead:

Dave's Bitch
08-24-2012, 03:58 PM
I saw this on the tv yesterday and was laughing for a good hour.I kinda feel sorry for the old woman though.I prefer her version anyhow :)

Dave's Bitch
08-24-2012, 04:00 PM
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/25457310.jpg

envy_me
08-24-2012, 04:05 PM
I saw this on the tv yesterday and was laughing for a good hour.I kinda feel sorry for the old woman though.I prefer her version anyhow :)

LMAO :D I wanna know how she was thinking. "Hmm, the colors don't match. I'll just continue and do the face, problem - solution". She must have painted him for hours, not once did the alarm go off in her head. What a confidence...

Jesus Christ
08-24-2012, 04:06 PM
I don't think that looks like Me at all. Does resemble Judas a little bit though....

...And now ye know why he had some "issues".

As for Cecilia Gimenez, I will forgive her, of course. But I won't be asking her to paint a portrait of Me anytime soon :jesuslol:

Jesus Christ
08-24-2012, 04:10 PM
I thought the title of this thread was Honkey Jesus. :gulp:

http://www.jamaicanrastafarianlove.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/black-jesus2.jpg?w=240

Who art thou calling a Honkey? :jesuslol:

Angel
08-24-2012, 04:13 PM
I saw this on the tv yesterday and was laughing for a good hour.I kinda feel sorry for the old woman though.I prefer her version anyhow :)

I agree.

Angel
08-24-2012, 04:22 PM
Let's leave it here, we won't agree. No point in discussing...

Of course we won't agree. It's a well known fact that sociopaths lack empathy.

envy_me
08-24-2012, 04:25 PM
Of course we won't agree. It's a well known fact that sociopaths lack empathy.

You just can't leave it, can you?

DONNIEP
08-24-2012, 04:27 PM
Who art thou calling a Honkey? :jesuslol:

Sorry Lord. But everybody knows there's only one true picture of black Jesus...

http://s10.postimage.org/ektw9wmah/black_jesus.jpg

gbranton
08-24-2012, 04:45 PM
I thought the title of this thread was Honkey Jesus. :gulp:

I thought it might be a discussion of the the songs "Monkey Business" and "Quicksand Jesus" off the album "Slave to the Grind" by Skid Row. I was all in.

DONNIEP
08-24-2012, 05:07 PM
I thought it might be a discussion of the the songs "Monkey Business" and "Quicksand Jesus" off the album "Slave to the Grind" by Skid Row. I was all in.

Monkey Business kills!!!

Angel
08-24-2012, 08:47 PM
You just can't leave it, can you?

Actually, I just logged in to apologize for that. Never post on message boards when you're in the middle of a nasty row with the room-mate...

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So this is love
08-24-2012, 09:09 PM
I see a nice relationship developing between you two envy&angel:beers8:

envy_me
08-25-2012, 03:49 AM
Actually, I just logged in to apologize for that. Never post on message boards when you're in the middle of a nasty row with the room-mate...

Sent from my BlackBerry 8520 using Tapatalk

It's OK. We're good.

DONNIEP
08-25-2012, 04:13 AM
"There will be peace in the valley..." :biggrin:

FORD
08-25-2012, 04:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8v2ym5KLeM

DONNIEP
08-25-2012, 04:25 PM
I gotta get me one of those outfits...