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Va Beach VH Fan
09-11-2012, 10:23 AM
It's basically now the worst kept secret in rock, but it's great news.... The band has been giving not-so-subtle hints the last few days, and today's hint makes it crystal clear, as if we didn't realize it already....

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k55/ferr3816/ZEP-FIVE.jpg

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k55/ferr3816/ZEP-FOUR.jpg

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k55/ferr3816/ZEP-THREE.jpg

Yesterday they posted this....



And today....

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k55/ferr3816/ZEP-TWO.jpg

chefcraig
09-11-2012, 11:08 AM
Betcha anything this is leading up to a DVD release of the O2 Arena show from London, England in 2007. This turkey has been rumored for release since early in 2010, so it appears that Page and company may finally have finished dicking with it via drastic post-production efforts to warrant it's exposure. Pardon me while I stifle a yawn...


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Matt White
09-11-2012, 12:08 PM
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!

I'll be 1st in line!!!

OH HELL YEAH!!!

Va Beach VH Fan
09-11-2012, 12:24 PM
The whole show, mixed from cellphone vids....

VHscraps
09-11-2012, 01:27 PM
Thank you for the link to the whole thing, man. Just caught a bit of Trampled Underfoot. Damn good stuff. I don't usually watch these cellphone things, and it would never have occurred to me to even look, but I might just have to take the evening off and sit through it all.

chi-town324
09-11-2012, 01:41 PM
great news!!

binnie
09-11-2012, 03:48 PM
I never though Plant would allow it.

It'll sell by the bucketload regardless of its quality, however.

VHscraps
09-11-2012, 03:50 PM
Hey, Ed better get on the case - they've got his stripes flying around on the big screen at around 30m 40s during a fackin' awesome version of 'For Your Life'

Satan
09-11-2012, 04:00 PM
Took them 5 years to do the overdubs?

Hell, if they were that committed to getting it right, maybe I should have sent Bonzo up there so he could do a new set of drum tracks?

VHscraps
09-11-2012, 04:07 PM
Don't need no overdubs, Satan - listen to the cellphone footage embedded in VA's post. Once they got into their stride, by the 3rd or 4th number, they were cooking.

Green Manalishi
09-11-2012, 06:08 PM
Certainly was just a matter of time . That being said , I'll be snatching up a copy sooner than later .
Makes me wonder how many of Jimmy Pages notoriously bad live mistakes had to be " fixed " ? I'm not ragging on Jimmy Page in any way , shape , or form here . Overall , he is my favorite guitarist of all time , warts and all .
Everyone knows that Page could be stunningly brilliant and stunningly sloppy all in one fell swoop .
Live dates ? Hhhhmmm....and it makes me wonder.....

Zing!
09-11-2012, 06:15 PM
I'll buy it.

motherchicken
09-11-2012, 06:16 PM
Took them 5 years to do the overdubs?


The Song Remains The Same (the album) took three years to "edit". Page should have put a little more effort into the movie version.

motherchicken
09-11-2012, 06:28 PM
Certainly was just a matter of time . That being said , I'll be snatching up a copy sooner than later .
Makes me wonder how many of Jimmy Pages notoriously bad live mistakes had to be " fixed " ? I'm not ragging on Jimmy Page in any way , shape , or form here . Overall , he is my favorite guitarist of all time , warts and all .
Everyone knows that Page could be stunningly brilliant and stunningly sloppy all in one fell swoop .
Live dates ? Hhhhmmm....and it makes me wonder.....
Sometimes it's not mistakes. Sometimes it's just a matter of it could sound better. I bought the updated "One More From The Road" a few years ago. It has several live versions of some songs recorded at several shows at the same venue. The little booklet inside told about one of the solos on "Freebird" that was overdubbed and how the original version was as good if not better than the final edit.

Green Manalishi
09-11-2012, 08:24 PM
I totally agree . I bought the re-released " One More From The Road " and ate it up booklet and all .
The late - great Allen Collins was so very brilliant and a notorious perfectionist .
I still have my original double vinyl of " One More.... " ( second copy ! ) complete with the album insert .
I wore out the first one and handled the second one with kid gloves .
Classic Skynyrd , Zeppelin , classic Van Halen - WE have great taste !
I wish Ted Nugents " Double Live Gonzo ! " would get a remastered ( plus goodies ) makeover .

VAiN
09-11-2012, 08:29 PM
I've had the super-duper multi-cam bootleg version of this on DVD for a few years now... such a great show. I can't wait to get this on Blu-Ray!

motherchicken
09-11-2012, 08:43 PM
I totally agree . I bought the re-released " One More From The Road " and ate it up booklet and all .
The late - great Allen Collins was so very brilliant and a notorious perfectionist .
I still have my original double vinyl of " One More.... " ( second copy ! ) complete with the album insert .
I wore out the first one and handled the second one with kid gloves .
Classic Skynyrd , Zeppelin , classic Van Halen - WE have great taste !
I wish Ted Nugents " Double Live Gonzo ! " would get a remastered ( plus goodies ) makeover .
I had the original Street Survivors album for years. The one with flames engulfing Steve Gaines and the tour of the south sleeve. Left all my albums behind by accident when I moved back with the parents while on delayed enlistment into the Navy. I remembered too late to get them back. Had a couple decent Rolling Stones bootlegs too.

78/84 guy
09-11-2012, 10:52 PM
I've had the super-duper multi-cam bootleg version of this on DVD for a few years now... such a great show. I can't wait to get this on Blu-Ray!

Yea I have it also. They played really good. I think they fucked up Dazed at the end if I remember right ? Overall they were solid. Some of the songs were tuned down for Plant's voice. Kasmir was really good. I will pick it up for sure. Can't wait.

Va Beach VH Fan
09-12-2012, 10:16 AM
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k55/ferr3816/ZEP-ONE.jpg

Va Beach VH Fan
09-12-2012, 10:17 AM
Stimulating, I know.... ;)

Hardrock69
09-12-2012, 04:11 PM
Yes, I have had the 10-cam O2 Arena show since it came out.

I will get this just to have the improved sound and picture.

Call it a fitting end to a great band.

Va Beach VH Fan
09-12-2012, 04:15 PM
Just listening to that little 14 second blurb in the 1st post, it sounds MUCH better than all of those boots already....

ODShowtime
09-13-2012, 07:07 AM
I'm not super excited about this, but maybe hearing it properly mixed/mastered will finally give me some excitement for this show.

It's not like there's much else interesting coming out. I'd love to have the Stone's Brussels Affair on vinyl, but the cocksuckers are charging like $700 for it.

The new ZZ top record looks cool...

Va Beach VH Fan
09-13-2012, 09:14 AM

FORD
09-13-2012, 12:49 PM
Ah, so they're following the Stones blueprint here.... A one day only theatrical release, and then get the DVD in the stores in time for the Xmas commercialism orgy.

VHscraps
09-13-2012, 03:38 PM
In celebration of Celebration Day, I give you one-half of Led Zeppelin - Band of Joy, 1968, and the best version of this song I have heard:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJsAUczoaM0

Va Beach VH Fan
09-13-2012, 03:43 PM
http://www.ledzeppelin.com/news/2012/09/13/led-zeppelin-celebration-day

Led Zeppelin - Celebration Day
September 13, 2012
Audio And Video From Legendary 2007 Concert
To Be Available In Multiple Configurations On November 19

Concert Slated For Global Theatrical Release On October 17

(Los Angeles, Sept. 13, 2012) – On December 10, 2007, Led Zeppelin took the stage at London’s O2 Arena to headline a tribute concert for dear friend and Atlantic Records founder Ahmet Ertegun. What followed was a two-hour-plus tour de force of the band’s signature blues-infused rock ’n’ roll that instantly became part of the legend of Led Zeppelin. Founding members John Paul Jones, Jimmy Page and Robert Plant were joined by Jason Bonham, the son of their late drummer John Bonham, to perform 16 songs from their celebrated catalog including landmark tracks “Whole Lotta Love,” “Rock And Roll,” “Kashmir,” and “Stairway To Heaven.”

Although 20 million people applied for tickets, the band’s first headline show in 27 years was seen only by the 18,000 ticket holders who were fortunate enough to have secured seats through the worldwide lottery.

The film of Celebration Day will see a worldwide theatrical release by Omniverse Vision on 1,500 screens in over 40 territories on October 17. The theatrical screenings will follow premieres in London, Los Angeles, New York, and other major cities. Tickets for the public screenings will be available on September 13 via ledzeppelin.com.

Celebration Day will then be available in multiple video and audio formats on November 19 from Swan Song/Atlantic Records. Specific product details will be announced soon.

VHscraps
09-13-2012, 03:46 PM
Nice illustration ...

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/183369_10151069605741943_1082034948_n.jpg

... and the link to cinemas (http://www.ledzeppelin.com/celebrationday/o2_splash.html?utm_source=Distrify&utm_medium=video-player&utm_campaign=distrify#distrify-player-2556) where the film will be showing

loucap81
09-13-2012, 06:53 PM
Betcha anything this is leading up to a DVD release of the O2 Arena show from London, England in 2007. This turkey has been rumored for release since early in 2010, so it appears that Page and company may finally have finished dicking with it via drastic post-production efforts to warrant it's exposure. Pardon me while I stifle a yawn...

I agree and I'll go a step further, I thought it was a dreadful performance (mainly by Plant). I'm happy they didn't go through with a tour because, like The Police, it wasn't close to being a reasonable facsimile of what that band once was. Hearing all those songs tuned down was painful to my ears.

ODShowtime
09-13-2012, 07:16 PM
... and the link to cinemas (http://www.ledzeppelin.com/celebrationday/o2_splash.html?utm_source=Distrify&utm_medium=video-player&utm_campaign=distrify#distrify-player-2556) where the film will be showing

Nice it will be fun to pregame in Ybor City and then continue drinking at the Muvico! This is gonna be awesome!

ELVIS
09-13-2012, 07:33 PM
I totally agree . I bought the re-released " One More From The Road " and ate it up booklet and all .
The late - great Allen Collins was so very brilliant and a notorious perfectionist .
I still have my original double vinyl of " One More.... " ( second copy ! ) complete with the album insert .
I wore out the first one and handled the second one with kid gloves .
Classic Skynyrd , Zeppelin , classic Van Halen - WE have great taste !
I wish Ted Nugents " Double Live Gonzo ! " would get a remastered ( plus goodies ) makeover .

Yeah, I'm on my second vinyl and third disc of One More From The Road...

That album is proof of how good they were live night after night...

FORD
09-13-2012, 07:39 PM
Yeah, REAL Skynyrd was one Hell of a band. Can't stand the joke that Ronnie's little brother has turned them into though.

Are any ACTUAL members of Lynyrd Skynyrd still alive?

ELVIS
09-13-2012, 07:48 PM
Gary Rossington...

ELVIS
09-13-2012, 07:51 PM
Check out this waysted picture...

http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/billy-powell.jpg


:elvis:

fourthcoming
09-13-2012, 07:54 PM
In celebration of Celebration Day, I give you one-half of Led Zeppelin - Band of Joy, 1968, and the best version of this song I have heard:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJsAUczoaM0

Nice! I have an old boot of this tune and Hey Joe....which was pretty damn solid too.

fourthcoming
09-13-2012, 07:56 PM
Check out this waysted picture...

http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/billy-powell.jpg


:elvis:

When do these guys get their due and get inducted into the Rock and Roll hall of fame? Even though the Hall is a joke....so many deserving artists left out.

78/84 guy
09-14-2012, 10:25 PM
They are in. Got in a few years back. All of the old original guy's played. Even crazy Bob Burns played drums. They did Alabama & Freebird. The original band was unreel live. I put them in my top 5.

78/84 guy
09-14-2012, 10:27 PM
Gary Rossington...

Ed King, Artimus Pyle & Bob Burns are still around. They were at the Hall induction & played.

78/84 guy
09-14-2012, 10:31 PM
Don't need no overdubs, Satan - listen to the cellphone footage embedded in VA's post. Once they got into their stride, by the 3rd or 4th number, they were cooking.

I will be interested to see if they fixed the screw ups. There were a few but not many. If they did Page probably used some audio from the rehearsals I would think. No big deal to me. What live album hasn't been fixed ? Maybe Double Live Gonzo. And Ted's not a fan of it.

Green Manalishi
09-15-2012, 11:07 AM
I had the original Street Survivors album for years. The one with flames engulfing Steve Gaines and the tour of the south sleeve. Left all my albums behind by accident when I moved back with the parents while on delayed enlistment into the Navy. I remembered too late to get them back. Had a couple decent Rolling Stones bootlegs too.

Check it out ! Talk about dumb luck ! One day out of the clear blue - I wandered into a local second hand / antique store .
To my amazement and several double takes and wide - eyed , jaw - dropped gasps of disbelief - There It Was - lying on a shelf amongst junky books and other discarded second hand crap Street Survivors original cover with both inserts intact for - get this - a dollar ! Still have it . Here 30 years later - It is encased in a heavy duty plastic collectors sleeve and rarely see's the light of day .

Nickdfresh
09-15-2012, 11:39 AM
This is fantastic! I was just thinking the other day, "what does humanity need the most?" And of course the first thing that sprung to mind was, "another Led Zeppelin DVD!"

fourthcoming
09-15-2012, 11:49 AM
They are in. Got in a few years back. All of the old original guy's played. Even crazy Bob Burns played drums. They did Alabama & Freebird. The original band was unreel live. I put them in my top 5.

LMAO.....I thought for sure they were overlooked. At least the hall got that right. Now put Alice Cooper, Rush, Kiss......etc in.

FORD
09-15-2012, 02:40 PM
LMAO.....I thought for sure they were overlooked. At least the hall got that right. Now put Alice Cooper, Rush, Kiss......etc in.

I always figured the reason why Skynyrd, Alice, and especially KISS (add Deep Purple to this list as well) weren't inducted yet, is because of the question of WHO gets inducted. And it's not like the Hall of Fame has a consistent policy with these things, i.e. Black Sabbath inducts ONLY the original members, while the Red Retard gets to tag along when Van Halen gets the invite.

Still have no idea why Rush isn't in there. They have had the same lineup since 1974, and I doubt anybody would object to John Rutsey being inducted with them. Only thing I can guess is that their flaming dickwad of a manager has something to do with it. Yeah, I'm still gonna throw in a Ray Danniels bash when the opportunity comes up. I wouldn't be FORD if I didn't! :biggrin:

78/84 guy
09-17-2012, 08:23 PM
Rush should have been in years ago with Deep Purple. Is Lemmy in ?

ELVIS
09-18-2012, 03:47 AM
Ed King, Artimus Pyle & Bob Burns are still around. They were at the Hall induction & played.

I meant who were actually in the band...

Nitro Express
09-18-2012, 06:00 AM
Rush should have been in years ago with Deep Purple. Is Lemmy in ?

Ha! Lemmy would torch the place.

chefcraig
09-20-2012, 10:19 AM
As has now become the norm, the band puts something out named after a song not even included in the release ("Celebration Day"). For anyone still interested or barely remaining awake, here is the track list (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/sep/13/led-zeppelin-not-reuniting-live-film):

1. Good Times Bad Times
2. Ramble On
3. Black Dog
4. In My Time of Dying
5. For Your Life
6. Trampled Under Foot
7. Nobody's Fault But Mine
8. No Quarter
9. Since I've Been Loving You
10. Dazed and Confused
11. Stairway to Heaven
12. The Song Remains the Same
13. Misty Mountain Hop
14. Kashmir
15. Whole Lotta Love
16. Rock and Roll

fourthcoming
09-20-2012, 04:51 PM
Rush should have been in years ago with Deep Purple. Is Lemmy in ?

No he's not in.....damn well should be.....same goes for Alice Cooper.

ThrillsNSpills
09-21-2012, 11:54 AM
I'd love to hear Alex play with these guys. At least on Misty Mountain.
I don't know who comes closer to Bonham's style than Alex.

Keeping rhythm is one thing, but keeping it together and making every hit musical is another, and Bonham set that bar high.

Va Beach VH Fan
09-21-2012, 12:25 PM
Little bit of Black Dog released...

DLR Bridge
09-21-2012, 12:34 PM
I'd love to hear Alex play with these guys. At least on Misty Mountain.
I don't know who comes closer to Bonham's style than Alex.

Keeping rhythm is one thing, but keeping it together and making every hit musical is another, and Bonham set that bar high.

Any Zep that VH did in the club days had monstrous performances by Alex in my opinion. The Rover, Hots on for Nowhere... he rips it up.

binnie
09-21-2012, 03:47 PM
It's unfair to ask any band to re-capture their heyday, but watching that clip of Black Dog was the musical equivalent of watching pensioner porn.....

Matt White
09-21-2012, 07:10 PM
I think this is going to be brilliant....as much as it can be

they are all (the 3 ZEP guys) senior citizens....and they were notoriously "spotty" in their heyday.....

that being said...when they were "ON" they were untouchable........

Now....if we could only get some LIVE official footage of VH...now & in THEIR heyday......I'd be a happy Mutha Fucka!!!

chefcraig
09-22-2012, 08:57 AM
Press conference video, ect: Watch Led Zeppelin's 'Celebration Day' press conference in full – video (http://www.nme.com/news/led-zeppelin/66261)

Jack68
09-22-2012, 09:49 AM
John Paul Jones just wants to rock goddammit.

ELVIS
09-22-2012, 12:12 PM
This would have been more exciting five years ago...

indeedido
09-22-2012, 01:06 PM
It would have been more exciting five years ago, agreed. But I'm still down for anything Zep. Walking into Clarksville was cool, would like to hear more of Page/Plant and include Jones.

ELVIS
09-22-2012, 02:22 PM
If you can stay awake through it, it's funny watching these guys talking about their last gig that was about as long ago as The Beatles' and Van Halen's initial careers lasted...

DlocRoth
09-22-2012, 02:53 PM
It's unfair to ask any band to re-capture their heyday, but watching that clip of Black Dog was the musical equivalent of watching pensioner porn.....

Yeah they definitely look a bit tired of it all....

BUT....

Its similar to VH... You can hear the magic in there.

binnie
09-22-2012, 04:18 PM
Yeah they definitely look a bit tired of it all....

BUT....

Its similar to VH... You can hear the magic in there.

'Hear' or 'imagine'?

That was sloppy to my ears...........but I'll reserve judgement until I've seen the full performance.

DlocRoth
09-22-2012, 04:32 PM
'Hear' or 'imagine'?

That was sloppy to my ears...........but I'll reserve judgement until I've seen the full performance.

Cant argue with you.... But rare is the day when Zep was "tight".

They are an all over the place yet right in the pocket kinda band to me......

Hence the VH nod.

Terry
09-22-2012, 09:38 PM
Took them 5 years to do the overdubs?

Hell, if they were that committed to getting it right, maybe I should have sent Bonzo up there so he could do a new set of drum tracks?

It'll be interesting to compare the raw audio feeds to whatever ends up being released on the official dvd after being...er..."enhanced" during the mixing.

While I will say that the O2 stuff was the best they've sounded in public since 1980, no amount of post-concert studio trickery will be able to mask how goddamned awful Stairway was performed at O2. Although it naturally didn't live up to the hype surrounding it, the O2 concert overall was decent. Bonham and Jones held it together. Plant was fair-to-good, considering his age. Page for his part was well-rehearsed.

ELVIS
09-23-2012, 01:34 AM
The drums are the worse part...

ELVIS
09-23-2012, 01:51 AM
:elvis:

ELVIS
09-23-2012, 01:56 AM
:elvis:

ELVIS
09-23-2012, 02:06 AM
:elvis:

chefcraig
09-23-2012, 08:09 AM
The drums are the worse part...

Pretty much, yet I wouldn't blame the drums so much as the drummer, as it's a poor carpenter that blames his tools upon the results. Having said that, where his father would swing and use subtlety (I'm not kidding, get past the sound and listen to the restraint in John Bonham's playing over the years), his son simply plods, bashes and plows his way through things. At this rate, the younger Bonham probably would only find work in a Bad Co/Zep knock-off band like Foreigner or merely form his own third rate LZ cover band. Oh shit, wait a minute...

78/84 guy
09-24-2012, 07:27 PM
:elvis:

I can see why the refused too let them release this on the Live Aid set. But at the same time it's fun. Collins couldn't have been a worse choice ! Page has alot of shit running through that amp. What is that A chorus pedal ?

ELVIS
09-24-2012, 11:46 PM
The drums on that sound and fit better than Jason Bonham in 2007...

Jack68
09-25-2012, 10:16 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14GYov0EdyQ

Love this type of stuff.

chuckjitsu
09-25-2012, 10:41 AM
For everybody who bitched about Dave's vocals this time out, I give you exhibit A, Percy Plant. Yeah, he's a bit older than Dave, but he and Dave were close to the same age when comparing O2 to 2012 Dave and Plant sounds worse IMO. At least Van Halen didn't have to change the key of their songs to accommodate Dave's voice. Bob hasn't sounded good in ages. I really liked Walking into Clarksdale, but I thought Plant sounded bad on that record and it came out, what, 14 years ago?

chuckjitsu
09-25-2012, 10:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14GYov0EdyQ

Love this type of stuff.

I don't have the link for it, unfortunately, but somewhere on youtube there's audio of the band rehearsing Black Dog in its early stage. The song breaks down a couple of times as the band works on timing issues and Bonham leads a discussion on working out the timing. We're all used to the finished project, so it was fascinating to me to hear them putting the song together in rehearsals and hearing them talk about the arrangement.

twonabomber
09-25-2012, 11:21 AM
The drums on that sound and fit better than Jason Bonham in 2007...

that was Tony Thompson. Collins was a mess on the second drum set.

Va Beach VH Fan
09-25-2012, 02:54 PM
Bonzo died 32 years ago today, BTW....

Green Manalishi
09-25-2012, 03:16 PM
Bonzo died 32 years ago today, BTW....

Yep , I remember it well . It was kind of rumbling around the hallways of my high school
that afternoon as just a rumour .
Hurrying home right after school I cranked on the local rock radio station and they were
already well into Led Zeppelin marathon - mode . Sad , sad news indeed .
My best friend and her sister and brother-in-law actually had tix to see them in Chicago
that fall . She was devastated . Super sux . Bonham was the greatest !
Went to see Black Sabbath / Blue Oyster Cult just 5 nights later at the old Checkerdome
During intermision between bands , " Black Dog " was played over the P.A. The crowd
stood and cheered throughout the whole song . One of those you had to be there moments .

Jack68
09-28-2012, 10:32 AM
that was Tony Thompson. Collins was a mess on the second drum set.

i went to that "event' @ JFK what a fucking sewer.Imean really the place should of been condemned.Blistering hot day...3 dollars for a snocone or a new cherry coke.People passing out all over the place.Chevy Chase trying to be funny as MC...The Who get unplugged.....Queen killed everybody and i thought Jimmy Page was gonna hurl all over the stage.It still was pretty cool when Zep came out.

78/84 guy
09-28-2012, 08:15 PM
The drums on that sound and fit better than Jason Bonham in 2007...

Hardly ! Yea Jason's not his dad.We get it. Nobody was.

ELVIS
09-28-2012, 10:49 PM
Alex Van Halen would have fit in well...

78/84 guy
09-28-2012, 10:58 PM
Alex Van Halen would have fit in well...

Or Neil Peart ! How bout Mitch Mitchell ? Nah, we played more like Moonie. Maybe better.

Va Beach VH Fan
10-05-2012, 02:51 PM

ODShowtime
10-06-2012, 07:53 AM
For me Kashmir was never the same after '75 when Jimmy used the Les Paul still instead of the Silvertone. And once the mellotron went away? Forget it! That old piece of crap is awesome! I want one. Sounded great on Them Crooked Vultures.

ELVIS
10-06-2012, 08:23 AM
Piece of crap ??




:elvis:

VHscraps
10-06-2012, 08:58 AM
great, Elvis - I love it. Amidst the ocean of crap that you will find on youtube, you have to marvel at stuff like this. For years I have wondered how a mellotron worked.

ODShowtime
10-08-2012, 08:28 PM
"Piece of crap ??"

I said I want one right after that. but they are nuts. playing a tape of the tone when you hit the key? You need a technician to keep it runnin! But they sound awesome.

Va Beach VH Fan
10-09-2012, 05:32 PM

78/84 guy
10-09-2012, 10:24 PM
For me Kashmir was never the same after '75 when Jimmy used the Les Paul still instead of the Silvertone. And once the mellotron went away? Forget it! That old piece of crap is awesome! I want one. Sounded great on Them Crooked Vultures.

The version from this show was very good. I like the Paul on it. Sounds heavier. Lovee that wierd tunning. I learned the Rain Song in it. Very cool. I got tickets to go see it next week. Should be fun.

Va Beach VH Fan
10-10-2012, 11:17 AM
BTW, Trunk attended the premiere last night in NYC, said it looked and sounded great.....

chefcraig
10-10-2012, 11:24 AM
BTW, Trunk attended the premiere last night in NYC, said it looked and sounded great.....

So in other words, it blows chunks all over the dashboard. :puke:

Va Beach VH Fan
10-10-2012, 11:31 AM
I don't mind Trunk attending these things, but not the other two clowns....

Va Beach VH Fan
10-17-2012, 01:20 PM

Kristy
10-17-2012, 01:59 PM
Pathetic. Pathetic post.

78/84 guy
10-17-2012, 05:46 PM
Pathetic. Pathetic post.

Oh no ! Your back ! I'm going to see this tonight. I'll try not to think of you ! LOL. Jimmy rules !

78/84 guy
10-18-2012, 06:11 PM
REVIEW. Good stuff if you like Zeppelin. Kristy this means you. Lol. What I noticed most is they didn't fix very much. They cut down the feedback on Plant's mic for Good Times Bad Times but you can still hear it. The part of Nobodys Fault were Plant plays harmonica and the band kind of falls apart is left in. I think they tried to play it that way anyway. In the old days they played behind him. The one part of No Quarter that was the worst screw up is cut out. You really can't tell at all. But what is cool is they left in the ending where they have to try and get back on track. And it works good. I thought they would patch it up with rehersal audio or something. The beginning of Rock & Roll were Jimmy's guitar sounds a little flat was left alone also. Overall I was suprised how good and powerfull they sounded. John Paul is one talented guy ! Page plays his sloopy blues as always, but he is on his game for the most part. Jason holds his own. Very powerfull on most songs. Plant was just o.k. to me. Really rose to the occasion on Kashmir & Stairway. And he showed power on other songs. His voice is very different than just from the Page/Plant tours. I can see why he wants no part of a reunion tour. The tuned down stuff sounds fine. I noticed it most on The Song Remains The Same. But it still came out great. I missed the Rain Song after it. Wish they did an acoustic set. Going To California & Black Country Woman would have been cool ! It's filmed really cool. Almost all close ups. They could of left out the 8 mil. camera shots but at the same time it was cool. The looks on their faces in between songs is really cool. You can tell they are really into it. I have a boot of the show and always thought they played very good overall. This proves it ! If they did take it out on the road for a few dates a year I could only imagine they would have been even tighter if they filmed it after a few shows. Loved it. Can't wait to buy it.

78/84 guy
10-19-2012, 07:16 AM
Oh yea. Page cut out the snippets of the cover song that were in some of the songs. I expected this after he did it on the remastered S.R.T.S. For a rich guy he sure is cheap ! Paying royalties for the stuff he borrowed must have got the best of him over the years ! lol.

Kristy
10-19-2012, 09:59 AM
So it sucked..? What a surprise.


:welcome:

Va Beach VH Fan
10-19-2012, 10:17 AM

ELVIS
10-19-2012, 11:54 AM
This boot is pretty awesome...




:elvis:

ODShowtime
10-20-2012, 09:04 AM
Of course we couldn't have a Led Zeppelin thread without some stupid cunt running her mouth.

What a great day. A new Led Zeppelin movie. All true rock fans rejoice! This is the best it's gonna get.

78/84 guy
10-20-2012, 01:19 PM
Of course we couldn't have a Led Zeppelin thread without some stupid cunt running her mouth.

What a great day. A new Led Zeppelin movie. All true rock fans rejoice! This is the best it's gonna get.

What a shocker right ? Lol. If you love/like Zep. you will like this. Kashmir is worth the whole thing.

Hardrock69
10-22-2012, 03:49 AM
It was at the IMAX theater here in Nashville for 2 nights. I did not go....am just going to buy the DVD when it comes out.

Kristy
10-22-2012, 12:00 PM
Of course we couldn't have a Led Zeppelin thread without some stupid cunt running her mouth.

What a great day. A new Led Zeppelin movie. All true rock fans rejoice! This is the best it's gonna get.

Pathetic aging hippie.

ThrillsNSpills
10-22-2012, 12:33 PM
I don't like guys calling girls cunts.
However it reminds me of the Chris Rock OJ bit.

"I'm not saying he should have killed her............but I understand."

WACF
10-22-2012, 12:45 PM
I don't like guys calling girls cunts.
However it reminds me of the Chris Rock OJ bit.

"I'm not saying he should have killed her............but I understand."

LOL....Love that bit...


I am glad Plant knows to back down from a reunion.

He definitely knows his limits right now.

I missed this in the theater but the DVD will suffice.

ODShowtime
10-25-2012, 06:25 AM
I don't like guys calling girls cunts.


I don't have any proof that it's a woman. And people who vocally hate on Led Zeppelin REPEATEDLY do not deserve even a modicum of respect or decorum. Fuck 'em. It's the height of poor taste.

And BTW I have the cunt on ignore, but when you guys quote it I don't have much choice but to read its nonsense.

Va Beach VH Fan
10-31-2012, 03:30 PM

Matt White
10-31-2012, 04:38 PM
I'll be picking that up the day its on sale.....

nice way to close out their career

ODShowtime
11-01-2012, 06:53 AM
I'm wondering if I should buy the vinyl or not, but what's the point if it's digitally sourced anyway? Then it's just easy to scratch and a pain in the ass to flip 9 times to listen to the whole show. And they hardly ever hook you up with the MP3 these days.

chefcraig
11-01-2012, 08:25 AM
I'm wondering if I should buy the vinyl or not, but what's the point if it's digitally sourced anyway? Then it's just easy to scratch and a pain in the ass to flip 9 times to listen to the whole show. And they hardly ever hook you up with the MP3 these days.

Avoid today's vinyl releases at all cost. The packaging is shoddy, and the actual record itself bears little if any resemblance to the sturdy LPs from the sixties and seventies. In fact, they fail to measure up to the audio quality of the era when Kelloggs and Post printed 45s on the back of cereal boxes (http://wfmu.org/MACrec/cbmany.html).

ELVIS
11-01-2012, 09:04 AM
That's bullshit...

chefcraig
11-01-2012, 06:21 PM
That's bullshit...

No, it's a fact. I recently purchased Miles Davis' Kind of Blue along with John Coltrane's A Love Supreme (both on 180 gram virgin vinyl) and they sound awful. The albums are so thin I'm afraid to leave them out at room temperature, and the album sleeves are barely even glued together. I was utterly disappointed, and will not be making that mistake again.

I'll wait until Neil Young unleashes his new PONO sound system on the buying public next year. LINK (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/neil-young-expands-pono-digital-to-analog-music-service-20120927)

ELVIS
11-01-2012, 07:16 PM
Well, my new Biizzard and Diary sound really good and are quality products...

my ADKOT vinyl is very nice as well...

ODShowtime
11-06-2012, 09:34 PM
The new Van Halen vinyl owns.

Hardrock69
11-07-2012, 05:18 AM
And yes, they DID put records on the back of cereal boxes in the 70s.

Usually some stupid crap like The Archies or whatever.

Probably worth a mint these days.....

Matt White
11-07-2012, 08:46 AM
I want my Sugar Crisp record!!!! :mad:

Matt White
11-09-2012, 01:50 PM
PRESENCE is so fucking bad-ass!!!

Zing!
11-09-2012, 02:57 PM
Yes it is! Other than PhysGraf, it's my fave. Could go either way, depending on my mood...

Satan
11-10-2012, 12:10 AM
I don't listen to Zeppelin much anymore, because Plant stabbed me in the back. http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d085.gif

78/84 guy
11-10-2012, 01:53 AM
Yes it is! Other than PhysGraf, it's my fave. Could go either way, depending on my mood...

Might be the 2 best albums they did. But I still love the rawness of LZ II

Kristy
11-10-2012, 01:54 AM
Shame to see how many of you lie to yourselves in this thread.

Nitro Express
11-10-2012, 02:00 AM
The day Jimmy Page dies an agonizing death and Satan rams a hot pitchfork up his crusty ass will be a day of grand celebration for Kristy.

78/84 guy
11-10-2012, 02:05 AM
Shame to see how many of you lie to yourselves in this thread.

Whatever that means ?? Huh ? What ??

Satan
11-10-2012, 02:16 AM
The day Jimmy Page dies an agonizing death and Satan rams a hot pitchfork up his crusty ass will be a day of grand celebration for Kristy.

I would never do that to Jimmy. He's a true believer. Bought Aleister Crowley's house because he thought he could worship me easier from there. http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d010.gif

78/84 guy
11-10-2012, 02:22 AM
What is that line from Tombstone ? What is he mad at ? Being born ! Reminds me of Kristy. And I don't even know her. I hope this is the place she leaves all her anger. And is fine when she logs off. I leave mine with the boss !

Va Beach VH Fan
11-13-2012, 12:23 PM

Kristy
11-13-2012, 12:44 PM
What is that line from Tombstone ? What is he mad at ? Being born ! Reminds me of Kristy. And I don't even know her. I hope this is the place she leaves all her anger. And is fine when she logs off. I leave mine with the boss !

Look, if you like having your homoerotic fixation on your pathetic pitiable pussy plagiarizing guitar player than great. I will never have any respect for that asshole. I hope he dies of an agonizing stroke soon.

78/84 guy
11-13-2012, 05:42 PM
Look, if you like having your homoerotic fixation on your pathetic pitiable pussy plagiarizing guitar player than great. I will never have any respect for that asshole. I hope he dies of an agonizing stroke soon.

You really need to get laid more !

Va Beach VH Fan
11-14-2012, 05:09 PM

78/84 guy
11-15-2012, 08:00 PM
Oh it will be mine ! And I will send you a copy Kristy ! Lol.

Matt White
11-15-2012, 08:33 PM
Yup....I'll be picking that up ASAP!!!

Matt White
11-19-2012, 10:23 PM
Picked it up today............

BRILLIANT

Looks killer....great mix....

Not bad for a bunch of old farts!

Kristy
11-19-2012, 10:47 PM
Not bad for a bunch of old farts!

No, I'm sure it's quite bad.

Matt White
11-20-2012, 08:44 AM
No, I'm sure it's quite bad.

No....I'm quite sure you're not!

Kristy
11-20-2012, 10:54 AM
I'm sure I am.

Zing!
11-20-2012, 12:11 PM
Surely you can't be serious.

chefcraig
11-20-2012, 12:29 PM
Surely you can't be serious.


Yes, I am serious ... and stop calling me Shirley.

http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt352/bumblepufff/Leslie-Nielsen-400x250.jpg

Kristy
11-20-2012, 01:07 PM
Surely you can't be serious.

Nevermind, enjoy your Zep.

Matt White
11-20-2012, 01:34 PM
exactly.................

And Hey! No Puffy Daddy Diddy Do Wha Diddy!!!

chefcraig
11-20-2012, 01:58 PM
I don't believe this...the entire first DVD disc is up and available (as of 1:58PM, EST) at Youtube. :yikes:

Matt White
11-20-2012, 05:05 PM
I don't believe this...the entire first DVD disc is up and available (as of 1:58PM, EST) at Youtube. :yikes:

"Sign of the Times"

I too busy lookin' for easter eggs!!!

Great DVD....obviously they show their age...ALL of em'....but, it is what it is.......

Much like VAN HALEN..............enjoy the fact that they are out playing that GRATE music we love...........they'll be gone soon enough........................

And if I hear ONE more cork-sucker complain aboot DAVE's vocals......PLANT doesn't even bother trying to be the old screecher of old...that ship sailed decades ago....Jimmy & John Paul probably have arthritis........still, they flash the old "Hammer of the Gods"

78/84 guy
11-20-2012, 06:04 PM
Nevermind, enjoy your Zep.

I find it had to believe you mean that ! Lol. Blu-Ray looks fantastic. Sounds better. If it's the last time they play they did it right.

ODShowtime
11-20-2012, 07:56 PM
Man this sounds badass on bluray. What a great day for Led Zeppelin fans. Just seeing the old Les Paul up close in such high definition is stunning.

binnie
11-21-2012, 03:57 PM
I had a VERY long car journey today and ended up cranking 'Remasters' for hours on end.

Man, there's so much stuff you forget about - 'Achilles Last Stand' is utterly remarkable.....

78/84 guy
11-22-2012, 11:26 AM
I had a VERY long car journey today and ended up cranking 'Remasters' for hours on end.

Man, there's so much stuff you forget about - 'Achilles Last Stand' is utterly remarkable.....

Probably the best song they wrote. Kashmir is close. The version from is show is killer.

chi-town324
11-24-2012, 08:55 AM
watched it yesterday, and was stunned how good they sounded especially Plant...if you didn't know who was on drums you would have thought it was bonzo himself instead of the kid....well done

78/84 guy
11-24-2012, 09:37 AM
Funny you say that. I listened too the cd's yesterday and thought this could be from the 80 tour we didn't get.

chefcraig
11-24-2012, 09:42 AM
I dunno...I bought this thing Wednesday (two cds I'll never play, in order to get a DVD, swell deal http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-rolleye-smileys-725.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/skype-emoticons.html)) and have watched it in increments.

What really strikes me the most is the whole "Wizard Of Oz" production quality of the damned thing. It's like they took and used as many camera angles possible in order to confuse your brain into believing you are seeing something truly magnificent, all the while making you wonder who the guy was beyond the curtain running things. And it certainly ain't the drummer. Jason Bonham's thudding noise simply doesn't have the lilt and swing of his father, and some of the tunes really suffer for all of his bashing and plodding. I found myself waiting for drum fills that never arrived, and feeling disoriented (let alone disappointed) at the same time.

And what is up with the ectoplasmic sludge covering Page's guitar on some of these tracks? Crap, I could have done a better mixing job myself using my cheap-assed Peavey modeling amp. (At least I can dial up the effects for Live At The Albert Hall 1970 easily enough.)

Honestly, this thing seems to be so much smoke and mirrors more than anything else. I felt the same way when I first viewed and heard the results five years ago, and the extensive repackaging/modifications made here have not changed my opinion all that much.

As a grand, final summation statement in testimony of a once great band, I truly feel the effort was unnecessary. People already had their boxed sets and DVDs, along with their memories. To me, this was an anticlimactic exercise, an ego-driven non-entity and about as worthwhile as putting lipstick on a pig.

As Bob Dylan once slyly noted, "Nothing was delivered."

78/84 guy
11-24-2012, 10:17 AM
I think you are reading a tad much into it. What does the editing of the film have to do with the playing ? Everyone wants Jason to be his dad. Hell even Plant did on this night. He is not his dad. Never was , never will be ! It was 3 guy's playing together to honor the guy that signed them 40 years ago. I don't think it was anything more. And the fact that they havent played since that night probobly makes it true. Shit some of it is brilliant. Kashmir sounds better than the album. For Your Life is really good. I mean give them a break. It's more authentic than any recent Stone's tour ! Oh if you thought it sucked 5 years ago why did you pay for it then ?

chefcraig
11-24-2012, 10:33 AM
Oh if you thought it sucked 5 years ago why did you pay for it then ?

Because I'm an idiot. Not only was I caught up in the overwhelming rush of consumerism that goes with the vacuum of the holidays, I was honestly hoping to have my mind changed by the finished product. Instead, the results deepened my depression while simultaneously confirming my initial misgivings about the show.

As for authenticity, comparing this little spectacle with a Rolling Stones rehash makes about as much sense as comparing apples and oranges. The fact is, "authenticity" in rock and roll went away around the time MTV came along, if not sooner. And if punk had not come along in 1976 or so, shaking things up (and knocking some of these super-fart bands out of their complacency), nobody would be paying attention now.

Look, I've been living and dying with these knuckleheads since around 1973, so I believe that as a result, I'm entitled to point out when the emperor is not wearing any clothes. Your mileage may vary.
:thumb:

Kristy
11-24-2012, 11:16 AM
I find it had to believe you mean that ! Lol. Blu-Ray looks fantastic. Sounds better. If it's the last time they play they did it right.

Yes, let's hope it is the last time they play together - EVER!

78/84 guy
11-24-2012, 11:46 AM
Because I'm an idiot. Not only was I caught up in the overwhelming rush of consumerism that goes with the vacuum of the holidays, I was honestly hoping to have my mind changed by the finished product. Instead, the results deepened my depression while simultaneously confirming my initial misgivings about the show.

As for authenticity, comparing this little spectacle with a Rolling Stones rehash makes about as much sense as comparing apples and oranges. The fact is, "authenticity" in rock and roll went away around the time MTV came along, if not sooner. And if punk had not come along in 1976 or so, shaking things up (and knocking some of these super-fart bands out of their complacency), nobody would be paying attention now.

Look, I've been living and dying with these knuckleheads since around 1973, so I believe that as a result, I'm entitled to point out when the emperor is not wearing any clothes. Your mileage may vary.
:thumb:

I bought it because it was fun. And mostly good. I guess I'm entitled to think that.

Kristy
11-24-2012, 11:53 AM
http://cdn.mos.musicradar.com/images/artist-news/led-zeppelin/led-zeppelin-logo-cross-640-80.jpg

78/84 guy
11-24-2012, 11:55 AM
Can we do one of those with Krusty under it ?!

78/84 guy
11-24-2012, 12:16 PM
I'm not sure what people around here hate worse. Zeppelin breaking up and then doing a few gigs, or Kristy quitting the Army and coming back ? I what my vote is for.

Terry
11-24-2012, 08:21 PM
I dunno...I bought this thing Wednesday (two cds I'll never play, in order to get a DVD, swell deal http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-rolleye-smileys-725.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/skype-emoticons.html)) and have watched it in increments.

What really strikes me the most is the whole "Wizard Of Oz" production quality of the damned thing. It's like they took and used as many camera angles possible in order to confuse your brain into believing you are seeing something truly magnificent, all the while making you wonder who the guy was beyond the curtain running things. And it certainly ain't the drummer. Jason Bonham's thudding noise simply doesn't have the lilt and swing of his father, and some of the tunes really suffer for all of his bashing and plodding. I found myself waiting for drum fills that never arrived, and feeling disoriented (let alone disappointed) at the same time.

And what is up with the ectoplasmic sludge covering Page's guitar on some of these tracks? Crap, I could have done a better mixing job myself using my cheap-assed Peavey modeling amp. (At least I can dial up the effects for Live At The Albert Hall 1970 easily enough.)

Honestly, this thing seems to be so much smoke and mirrors more than anything else. I felt the same way when I first viewed and heard the results five years ago, and the extensive repackaging/modifications made here have not changed my opinion all that much.

As a grand, final summation statement in testimony of a once great band, I truly feel the effort was unnecessary. People already had their boxed sets and DVDs, along with their memories. To me, this was an anticlimactic exercise, an ego-driven non-entity and about as worthwhile as putting lipstick on a pig.

As Bob Dylan once slyly noted, "Nothing was delivered."

You know, I have a lot of respect for what chef has said on various topics over the years, regardless of whatever the percentages of levels of agreement were.

I got a dvd bootleg of the 2007 show within a few months of the performance as a bonus disc thrown in by someone I was trading with, basically a cut-and-paste of various cell phone shots that had been posted on youtube with audio that was rough in spots but overall listenable.

I think I'm just gonna stick with that.

It's always been a bone of contention with me that Zeppelin tends to tweak official live releases post-performance. Yeah, virtually everybody else has done it too, but...it's like, when I wanna watch Knebworth 1979 I usually throw in my full-length dvd boot of the second show taken direct from the video screen and soundboard feeds than bother with the tampered stuff that ended up on the 2003 dvd release. Same goes for 1975 Earl's Court. Zeppelin were shit-hot from 1969 to 1971 live. After that, they were spotty. Rather than put stuff out as-is, they diddle around with the performances far beyond adding some extra reverb to compensate for a dry live sound...they actually snip out individual bits of various songs and assemble them together to create a performance that never existed.

It's bullshit of the highest order, when the reality would be just as compelling to see/listen to.

Also, chef having mentioned the frequent cut shots from the multiple cameras reminds me of watching Shine A Light and wondering why in the fuck Scorsese found it necessary to have 18 (or whatever absurd amount it was) different cameras on the Strolling Bones and yet fail to use any one angle for more than ten consecutive seconds at one time. I guess the notion is that a bunch of ADD editing will mask the fact that there really wasn't much going on.

Fuck it. I'll save my money and stick with my freebie LZ 2007 bootleg. It's like Zeppelin are only brave enough to release live stuff they can enhance after the fact, but when it comes to gigs like Live Aid or Seattle 1977 where the results were less than Hammer Of The Gods spectacular (or some such drivel), the band's collective nutsacks shrivel up.

chefcraig
11-24-2012, 08:57 PM
The thing is Terry, I believe the video treatment is being used to cover up the howlingly awful mistakes that take place in just about every song included. For instance, take "Nobody's Fault But Mine", which is an utter disaster. Page fumbles repeatedly with whatever effects pedal he is using, and seems to lose control of it altogether during the intro when he and Plant perform in unison. When Plant takes his harp solo, the inexplicable takes place: The band loses the plot entirely! At one point, Page simply STOPS PLAYING, exchanging confused looks with Jones, who ALSO STOPS PLAYING. The group stumbles through this part of the song, at the end of which Plant sings the title in such a sheepish manner that you gather the impression it's his way of offering up an apology. And Page's solo section fares not much better, as he seems to have completely forgotten his lines, and Jason Bonham's drumming has little if anything to do with the original take.

Yet you get all of this sped-up, interwoven video plastered into your retinas, so that if you aren't really paying attention to the soundtrack, you'll believe you saw something Earth-shattering. And as you astutely pointed out, it is absolute bullshit.

I'll stick with my vinyl boots from pre-1973. Yeah, the sound quality leaves a bit to be desired, yet at least what I'm hearing displays a certain level of honesty and integrity, minus the chicanery of video. (Which in fact, not only killed the radio star, yet pretty much destroyed music altogether.)

Terry
11-24-2012, 10:05 PM
The thing of it is...I do like Led Zeppelin. Sometimes it's as if (and Led Zeppelin are far from being the only vastly successful rock group guilty of this) the members of Zeppelin actually start to believe all of the rock press media hype and superfan homages directed their way...then they start having to cut corners and fudge the results in order to live up to a legend that was based in part on bullshit to begin with.
In addition, it gets kind of pathetic watching aging acts trying to get it up and compete with or even try and live up to the standards they were once capable of...and listening to desperate fans try and convince themselves and others the group is just as good as they ever were...I mean, I can understand the rationale given the relative talent levels of today's acts: that longing for a degree of authenticity and competence that just really isn't there in contemporary rock music and having to look backwards or hang onto whatever scraps of ability these rock star geezers have managed to not piss away in a self-indulgent haze of success...
I mean, case in point for anyone who thinks Led Zeppelin in the 1970s must have been THE greatest live experience ever - go get yourself a copy of Seattle 1977...shit, just get the audio alone and try and sit and listen to nearly 3 hours of self-indulgent, drugged-out twaddle...like, if I were at that show zonked out on Quaaludes, I can't imagine having the physical strength to stay awake 3 minutes into John Paul Jones tinkering around on a piano for 15 minutes during No Quarter...sometimes these legends don't really bear up to closer scrutiny...

Kristy
11-25-2012, 10:02 AM
Sometimes it's as if (and Led Zeppelin are far from being the only vastly successful rock group guilty of this) the members of Zeppelin actually start to believe all of the rock press media hype and superfan homages directed their way...then they start having to cut corners and fudge the results in order to live up to a legend that was based in part on bullshit to begin with.

Ha!

It's no new news coming from me on how much I detest this band. Zeppelin weren't so much a band (as people believe them to be) as they were a business model of what not to do in the long run. Page may be regarded as being some sort of "guitar god":lmao: when to me, his real talent was being the limey version of bad David Geffen. Page not only knew how to draw up the blueprints of blatant plagiarism, but the way in which to sell the Zep myth that they were somehow bigger than they actually were. I won't reilterate just how terrible their albums were recorded here (so much of that dead horse I can beat) but that Page made his money feeding his fanbase of strict diet of that bullshit. All of his self serving shamanic acts, his ridiculous astrology dragon pants, ventures into Satanism, his heroin dabbling, Plant's inane Hobbit-esque 'Hammer Of the Gods' lyrics, was the only original platform of shameless self-promotion they ever had. Problem was Page couldn't keep it up for long, sacrificing the music for the myth and the hardcore Zep fans suffered.

I've seen (and unfortunately heard) their live playing and much of it is sloppy, unrehearsed muck. You can put some of that blame on technical reasons such as the archaic stage monitoring/sound of the day but truth is, Zep had no live chemistry interaction between unlike other power quartets of that era such as The Who. Page's guitar fuck ups were covered up largely by Bonhams bombastic drumming, even his solo playing was derivative repetition. It seem with your reviewing of this new live DVD, not much of that has changed. It comes as no surprise why Plant wants to distance himself from this Zep apologue opting to do his best to get his dick wet on female Americana singers more than half his age.

Terry
11-25-2012, 10:28 AM
Part of the initial attraction I had to Zeppelin had to do with when I got into them. I was in my mid-teens when Hammer of the Gods came out, so obviously I was too young to have ever seen them play live. Also, this was an age when live bootlegs weren't as readily available as they were now, so basically if one wanted to hear Led Zeppelin play live The Song Remains The Same was it. Although even a teenager could figure out that the film had many instances of the soundtrack not synching up with the footage, I was still young enough to believe that bands put out live recordings that were accurate representations of what the concerts were actually like.
I was also young enough back in the mid-1980s to even find some of Page's dabblings with occult sorcery to be a "cool, far out" rock star-type thing to have done...along with all of Bonham's drinking and the excessive cocaine and heroin use of various members of the band. There was something about getting into Zeppelin in the early to mid 1980s...where the band weren't played non-stop on MTV (outside of the odd showing of TSRTS) and not even played THAT much on radio outside of the usual overplayed FM tracks...and prior to Live Aid there was seemingly no chance of the band getting back together and seemingly less chance of even hearing any of those live shows...basically, one had to use their imagination.
With the 80s coming to a close, I saw Zeppelin bootlegs (and, indeed, bootlegs of all kinds) becoming more readily available and affordable (I mean, in the early to mid 1980s you'd run into the odd indie record store offering to sell the 1977 tour Destroyer album on vinyl for upwards of $100 - too fucking much), and as these live shows surfaced it became clear that Zeppelin were not a consistently great band live as their career wound on. It did also become clear that as the history and sources of Zeppelin's influences were uncovered that the band did outright nick quite a bit of stuff...that for those ignorant of such things Zeppelin might have seemed so inspirational and original...but the reality was...not so much.
However, I do enjoy the band. It has been quite a long time since I've approached anything resembling a Zeppelin acolyte, although I don't quite wish them the level of ill-will Kristy does:winkglasses:.
I do think Plant has a point and is right to resist any sort of a long-term reunion billed under the name Led Zeppelin, where the aim is to slavishly attempt to re-create the "Led Zeppelin Experience" for a cash-grab...unlike Page who clearly wants this to happen.

Kristy
11-25-2012, 10:45 AM
...along with all of Bonham's drinking and the excessive cocaine and heroin use of various members of the band.


It was the drugs that fucked them over in the end. There was nothing "cool" about Zeppelin except that they were every young boy's wet dream (and for some on this forum, they still are). I cannot stand their music and never will and what's really sad about them is how their myth is outliving what they performed.

VAiN
11-25-2012, 10:51 AM
I cannot stand their music and never will

Yeah, we get it.

Kristy
11-25-2012, 10:52 AM
I doubt it.

chefcraig
11-25-2012, 11:00 AM
I think it had more to do with karma than anything else. You simply can NOT go through life beating your chest and telling everyone how great you are, while having a bunch of thugs go about beating up people that feel differently about your perceived status. And staying stoically wasted while all of this is going on is nothing short of pure, idiotic and myopic selfishness. People are paying hard-earned cash to see you perform, and there you are, so buzzed out to Neptune that you can barely hold a guitar, let alone play the motherfucking thing.

Oh sure, you might look cool in pictures featured in the pages of Circus or CREEM magazine, but at the same time you were pretty much shooting whatever legend or legacy you were trying to establish firmly in the foot. And it gets to the point that eventually, guys like me, that formerly drooled all over your knickers are having serious issues about the pointlessness of having spent a life full of devotion toward such a bunch of (now revealed) obvious wankers.

Kristy
11-25-2012, 11:03 AM
Yeah, thuggery, "fish rape", backstage beatings. Such a lovely band Zep were.

Terry
11-25-2012, 11:13 AM
It was the drugs that fucked them over in the end. There was nothing "cool" about Zeppelin except that they were every young boy's wet dream (and for some on this forum, they still are). I cannot stand their music and never will and what's really sad about them is how their myth is outliving what they performed.

I'd certainly agree that as far as the image went, it only seemed cool when looked upon with the cluelessness of youth.

By many accounts, John Bonham seemed like little more than a drunken thug and a complete asshole (I mean, what kind of a dickhead beats up a woman?), Page came across as a smack-addled fruitcake warlock wanna-be who liked to bugger little girls and Plant appeared to enjoy the same jailbait tastes...preaching some Lord Of the Rings hippy-dippy drivel while snorting up half of Peru and feeling up teenaged girls and groupies who were too enthralled with backstage access and the myths of rock stardom to know any better.

And yet there are plenty of middled-aged men who have the arrested mentality of teenagers and STILL point to this behavior as indicative or representing some sort of glory era of rock music.

Drugs and alcohol did fuck up Zeppelin in the end. Same with Hendrix. Same with Joplin. Same with Jimbo Lizard. Same with Elvis. And the list goes on and on...Keith Moon...and yet in the minds of many the fact that these people were brought down by drug/alcohol use somehow equates them with a sense of legendary greatness rather than being seen as a weakness or flaw...

I mean, take a good look at Eddie Van Halen and where he's at today and honestly say his decades-long addictions to alcohol and drugs did him any favors.

envy_me
11-25-2012, 11:27 AM
What is fish rape? I refuse to google it.

VAiN
11-25-2012, 11:33 AM
What is fish rape? I refuse to google it.

Don't quote me on this, but I believe it has to do with inserting a fish into a woman... She was a willing participant, so Kristy's term, among other things, is flawed.

Kristy
11-25-2012, 11:35 AM
I don't know much about Eddie Van Halen's addictions other than he was a hardcore alcoholic and tobacco was his refuge in between his drinking bouts. Where Van Halen fucked up royal to me is where Hagar came into the picture turning something that was pure, original and fun into another boring, over-produced corporate rock act chugging out songs for trademark commercialism. Did Eddie dabble into harder stuff? Possibly - but...he was also married at the time, had a child and a ethical responsibility to the rest of the band such as they were at the time.

Zeppelin were all around fuck ups and retards. This whole excessive "rock star" lifestlye of money, drugs and pussy eventually takes it toll. It's no wonder so many of them look prematurely aged, downtrodden and ugly. Good or bad, Page did know how to run Zep like a business first and a plagiarizing rock act second. Many of his contemporaries of his heyday are either broke or dead where the surviving members of Zep have more money than God. There is nothing at all wrong with that other to say how they became so wealthy which was selling their mythological bullshit.

Kristy
11-25-2012, 11:37 AM
Don't quote me on this, but I believe it has to do with inserting a fish into a woman... She was a willing participant, so Kristy's term, among other things, is flawed.

Please shut the fuck up, Mustang boy.

VAiN
11-25-2012, 11:38 AM
You first, nutjob.

Terry
11-25-2012, 11:42 AM
Don't quote me on this, but I believe it has to do with inserting a fish into a woman... She was a willing participant, so Kristy's term, among other things, is flawed.

Yeah, but just because the woman was a willing participant (and there's conjecture on if even that much of the story was true), that doesn't somehow absolve the members of Zeppelin or their entourage who did it from being a bunch of cretins for doing so...

Like, if I offer a homeless guy $20 in exchange for letting me shove a champagne bottle up his ass, does that make me less of a scuzz if the hobo says yes and I pay him (and, if it in fact DOES make me less of a scuzz, can you lend me $20?) ?

envy_me
11-25-2012, 11:55 AM
Yeah, but just because the woman was a willing participant (and there's conjecture on if even that much of the story was true), that doesn't somehow absolve the members of Zeppelin or their entourage who did it from being a bunch of cretins for doing so...

Eeeh, of course it does. Difference between willing and unwilling is what defines rape.

I don't get this sexual moral panic. Just cause it sounds strange to you guys doesn't mean he molested her. People like different things. Not everybody is a vicitm.

clarathecarrot
11-25-2012, 12:02 PM
Led Zeppelin (1969) -One of the finest rock albums that ever breathed life.

Led Zeppelin II (1969) Absolutely a tour of the extrordinary excellence in rock music.

Led Zeppelin III (1970) A simply fantastic compilation of the greatness of Zep.

Led Zeppelin IV (1971) I cannot stress the must have of this album to anyone listens to music of any kind.

Houses of the Holy (1973) The single greatest top ten album ever written in the rock history.

Physical Graffiti (1975) My favorite and seems to be perhaps the single greatest album ever written.

Presence (1976) I have no idea what this is or if it even exists never heard it.

Van Halen Entered the SCENE!!!

In Through the Out Door (1979) Sentimental favorite given to me by a great friend and deffinately a must have for the Zep collection.

Coda (1982) I have no idea what this is if it even exists I have never listend to it or payed attention.

You ALL can fuck off.

You can see where I left the scene of Zep in 1978 any discussion of Led Zeppelin after his date is just Monday morning faggoty.

The music before that date 1979 is untouchable you thankless little punks.

You got no clue and are full off slander.

Kristy
11-25-2012, 12:21 PM
Led Zeppelin (1969) -One of the finest rock albums that ever breathed life. It was a pus bag filled to the brim of plagiarized shit.


Led Zeppelin II (1969) Absolutely a tour of the extraordinary excellence in rock music. Says who? A hack at Rolling Stone? Excellence? Where? Led Crap II was a dismal attempt to plagiarize American delta and Chicago blues. Glad those limey fuckers were sued for it.


Led Zeppelin III (1970) A simply fantastic compilation of the greatness of Zep. Bullshit! It was Zep's first venture into self-serving pretentiousness. Fucking horibly recorded, mixed and played.


Led Zeppelin IV (1971) I cannot stress the must have of this album to anyone listens to music of any kind. Well I can stress it simply sucked. Hobbit meets lame riff-bashing


Houses of the Holy (1973) The single greatest top ten album ever written in the rock history. Oh PLU-EZE! More pretentiousness, more generic cliche lyrics, more horrible mixes, bad recording of instrumentation. Houses of The Douchebags is more like it.


Physical Graffiti (1975) My favorite and seems to be perhaps the single greatest album ever written. Yeah, "written" by monkeys that just flew out of my ass.


Presence (1976) I have no idea what this is or if it even exists never heard it. You motherfucking lying hippy.



In Through the Out Door (1979) Sentimental favorite given to me by a great friend and definitely a must have for the Zep collection. Yeah, a must have for the deaf and terminally stupid


Coda (1982) I have no idea what this is if it even exists I have never listend to it or payed attention. Die.


You ALL can fuck off. Ditto. Hippy.

VAiN
11-25-2012, 12:22 PM
Yeah, but just because the woman was a willing participant (and there's conjecture on if even that much of the story was true), that doesn't somehow absolve the members of Zeppelin or their entourage who did it from being a bunch of cretins for doing so...

Like, if I offer a homeless guy $20 in exchange for letting me shove a champagne bottle up his ass, does that make me less of a scuzz if the hobo says yes and I pay him (and, if it in fact DOES make me less of a scuzz, can you lend me $20?) ?

If you can get someone to shove a champagne bottle up their ass for $20, I'll give you $40 on principal alone.

Geez people - this is rock and fuckin' roll, not church! When did the pussification happen??? I expect and demand that my rockers are bunch of drunken heathens! Bottle in one hand, and groupies in the other! I don't get why some of you are getting upset about misbehaving rock stars.

Kristy
11-25-2012, 12:28 PM
If you can get someone to shove a champagne bottle up their ass for $20, I'll give you $40 on principal alone.


How much will it take to get a moron with a blue piece of shit Mustang to drive it off of the nearest cliff? :umm:

clarathecarrot
11-25-2012, 12:29 PM
It

Yeah, "written" by monkeys that just flew out of my ass.

You motherfucking lying hippy.


Yeah, a must have for the deaf and terminally stupid

Die.

Ditto. Hippy.

Krisy you are a fucking sadist just like me.. sitting there on that sofa looking like you raped yourself with a fish and no-one came to see and the fish bones in your ass are all you have left .

You bitch and moan about something you hate and can't stop the aggression about something you think and know bothers you just like those fish bones in your ass the sadism is on top of your mind.

Give it up or you will end up as mean and shitty as me.

Put the mudshark down and walk away....we all know it isn't big enough anyway.

I was a greaser never a hippy....now shut up and love me.

envy_me
11-25-2012, 12:30 PM
Like, if I offer a homeless guy $20 in exchange for letting me shove a champagne bottle up his ass, does that make me less of a scuzz if the hobo says yes and I pay him (and, if it in fact DOES make me less of a scuzz, can you lend me $20?) ?


How can you even compare these two?? One is a hungry person, deprived of basic biological needs doing stuff for pure survival. And the other is chick doing stuff just to be able to hang out with rock stars.
Do you see the difference in what motivates the two?

Kristy
11-25-2012, 12:34 PM
Krisy you are a fucking sadist just like me..

Trust me, asshole. You are nowhere near the sadist I am.

chefcraig
11-25-2012, 12:55 PM
Geez people - this is rock and fuckin' roll, not church! When did the pussification happen??? I expect and demand that my rockers are bunch of drunken heathens! Bottle in one hand, and groupies in the other! I don't get why some of you are getting upset about misbehaving rock stars.

Pussification has nothing whatsoever to do with expecting a quality performance as a paying consumer. Look, three of my most revered bands (namely The Faces, The Replacements and The Georgia Satellites) based their entire careers upon being functioning alcoholics. Their collected boozy performances wound up being the most cathartic, life-inspiring and generally uplifting shows ever offered a paying (or non-paying) audience.

The sticking point here is that Jimmy Page would show up so resolutely out of it that it got to the point of sheer embarrassment, rather than having a band united in the same sense of lubrication. Check out the stage posture of Robert Plant in just about any clip from 1975 onward. More often than not, he makes little if any eye contact with Page. This is highly evident during the 1977 Seattle show, as well as the Knebworth performances, wherein Plant seems to only be vaguely interested in what's going on. Hell, he even blows the "Whole Lotta Love" segment of the latter by being totally disengaged, barely disguising his utter contempt at Page and his heroin-filled theatrics.

I am completely down with throwing back a bunch of drinks or smoking something or other within the context of camaraderie towards getting everyone in the band on the same, comfortable wavelength. But the bloated state of rockstar indulgence that dictates being completely self-absorbed to the point of nihilism over being able to perform in the first place is nothing short of anathema to me.

If a so-called artist is allowed to show such contempt for his audience of patrons, he rightfully deserves whatever bad vibes or shame that might happen to come his way. And I happen to speak from personal experience, by the way. I fouled up more than one or two shows, letting down my band and the folks following us by being overindulgent with my use of substances and booze. So this ISN'T a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

It is to my eternal shame and regret that I cheated people in such a selfish manner. It's an albatross I will forever wear, and one that I wish some of these moronic yet alleged musical geniuses would have the grace to own up to.

clarathecarrot
11-25-2012, 12:59 PM
Trust me, asshole. You are nowhere near the sadist I am.

It is only fish bones in your asshole, that I trust, the sadism is candy for your ego.


I know !!! you are one of those sadists who thinks it is a fashion statement and that all that gear makes you one.

Like those Vampires you hang out with that base their truth on a GODDAMNED movie from the 1940's.

I see the sadism in the stupidity.

You think it is something you try to be.

Now shut up and learn to love me.

Kristy
11-25-2012, 01:03 PM
I know !!! You are one of those sadists who thinks it is a fashion statement and that all that gear makes you one.
Sadism is never a fashion statement to me.

Diamondjimi
11-25-2012, 02:42 PM
Just downloaded this dvd. Gonna check it out tonight.....

Diamondjimi
11-25-2012, 02:47 PM
Yeah, thuggery, "fish rape", backstage beatings. Such a lovely band Zep were.

Please arrange a suicide pact with yourself, Jack White and the cast of lunatics that live in that syphilis ridden cranium of yours... :Loser:

Kristy
11-25-2012, 03:26 PM
Please arrange a suicide pact with yourself, Jack White and the cast of lunatics that live in that syphilis ridden cranium of yours... :Loser:

Speaking of failed musicians.

Terry
11-25-2012, 04:09 PM
How can you even compare these two?? One is a hungry person, deprived of basic biological needs doing stuff for pure survival. And the other is chick doing stuff just to be able to hang out with rock stars.
Do you see the difference in what motivates the two?

I can see the difference in what motivates the two who are on the receiving end of the treatment, but not much difference (outside of the obvious physical situations) in the motivations between my hypothetical scenario and what Richard Cole, John Bonham and the rest of the Led Zeppelin participants did...and this was the point I was illustrating.

Terry
11-25-2012, 04:14 PM
Eeeh, of course it does. Difference between willing and unwilling is what defines rape.

I don't get this sexual moral panic. Just cause it sounds strange to you guys doesn't mean he molested her. People like different things. Not everybody is a vicitm.

I wasn't even alluding toward the criminality of the Mud Shark (or Red Napper) Zeppelin episode. The girl may have been willing, and the inference THERE is by her consent there was no molestation involved.

It isn't, however, evidence of a 'sexual moral panic' on my part that I state the members of Zeppelin and their crew who took part in this were still contemptable human beings for doing so, regardless of assumptions involving permission and legality proving to be correct or not.

envy_me
11-25-2012, 04:18 PM
I wasn't even alluding toward the criminality of the Mud Shark (or Red Napper) Zeppelin episode. The girl may have been willing, and the inference THERE is by her consent there was no molestation involved.

It isn't, however, evidence of a 'sexual moral panic' on my part that I state the members of Zeppelin and their crew who took part in this were still contemptable human beings for doing so, regardless of assumptions involving permission and legality proving to be correct or not.


But that is only your opinion. I don't find them contemptable humans because of abnormal sexual acts. What they do in bed is their business. I'd die if my sex life was all over the place for everybody to judge and frown upon.

envy_me
11-25-2012, 04:21 PM
I can see the difference in what motivates the two who are on the receiving end of the treatment, but not much difference (outside of the obvious physical situations) in the motivations between my hypothetical scenario and what Richard Cole, John Bonham and the rest of the Led Zeppelin participants did...and this was the point I was illustrating.

It's a HUGE difference. If it's a matter of life and death, then there isn't much choice for the homeless guy. If it's between hanging out with rock stars or not hanging out with rock stars, then you can just say "fuck off!!" and walk away if it doesn't suit you.

sadaist
11-25-2012, 04:25 PM
I'd die if my sex life was all over the place for everybody to judge and frown upon.


Me too. I don't want ANYONE knowing. That's why I just do it with myself. Used Kleenex tell no tales.

Terry
11-25-2012, 04:26 PM
But that is only your opinion. I don't find them contemptable humans because of abnormal sexual acts. What they do in bed is their business. I'd die if my sex life was all over the place for everybody to judge and frown upon.

Of course it's only my opinion. Other people are free to feel what they like.
I would agree that what people do in bed should potentially be their own business, although the chances of it remaining their own business realistically decrease in inverse proportion to the number of people on the bed, the level of their celebrity...and the amount of seafood involved...

Diamondjimi
11-25-2012, 04:26 PM
Speaking of failed musicians.

Details please...:indifferent0020:

envy_me
11-25-2012, 04:27 PM
Me too. I don't want ANYONE knowing. That's why I just do it with myself. Used Kleenex tell no tales.

Yeah! And I'd get arrested :D

sadaist
11-25-2012, 04:28 PM
Pussification has nothing whatsoever to do with expecting a quality performance as a paying consumer. Look, three of my most revered bands (namely The Faces, The Replacements and The Georgia Satellites) based their entire careers upon being functioning alcoholics. Their collected boozy performances wound up being the most cathartic, life-inspiring and generally uplifting shows ever offered a paying (or non-paying) audience.

The sticking point here is that Jimmy Page would show up so resolutely out of it that it got to the point of sheer embarrassment, rather than having a band united in the same sense of lubrication. Check out the stage posture of Robert Plant in just about any clip from 1975 onward. More often than not, he makes little if any eye contact with Page. This is highly evident during the 1977 Seattle show, as well as the Knebworth performances, wherein Plant seems to only be vaguely interested in what's going on. Hell, he even blows the "Whole Lotta Love" segment of the latter by being totally disengaged, barely disguising his utter contempt at Page and his heroin-filled theatrics.

I am completely down with throwing back a bunch of drinks or smoking something or other within the context of camaraderie towards getting everyone in the band on the same, comfortable wavelength. But the bloated state of rockstar indulgence that dictates being completely self-absorbed to the point of nihilism over being able to perform in the first place is nothing short of anathema to me.

If a so-called artist is allowed to show such contempt for his audience of patrons, he rightfully deserves whatever bad vibes or shame that might happen to come his way. And I happen to speak from personal experience, by the way. I fouled up more than one or two shows, letting down my band and the folks following us by being overindulgent with my use of substances and booze. So this ISN'T a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

It is to my eternal shame and regret that I cheated people in such a selfish manner. It's an albatross I will forever wear, and one that I wish some of these moronic yet alleged musical geniuses would have the grace to own up to.


Eddie Van Halen - Tour 2004

Terry
11-25-2012, 04:30 PM
It's a HUGE difference. If it's a matter of life and death, then there isn't much choice for the homeless guy. If it's between hanging out with rock stars or not hanging out with rock stars, then you can just say "fuck off!!" and walk away if it doesn't suit you.

Yes, but the point I was making has little (or less) to do with the people receiving the treatment and has more to do with the motivations of the people providing the treatment...perhaps my outlandish example was ill-advised, as it has seemingly clouded this illustration...

Let's just say we agree to disagree, and toast our newfound understanding a la Zeppelin-style with large amounts of unscaled sushi and champagne.

envy_me
11-25-2012, 04:50 PM
Yes, but the point I was making has little (or less) to do with the people receiving the treatment and has more to do with the motivations of the people providing the treatment...perhaps my outlandish example was ill-advised, as it has seemingly clouded this illustration...

Let's just say we agree to disagree, and toast our newfound understanding a la Zeppelin-style with large amounts of unscaled sushi and champagne.


No, you misunderstood. I meant motivation for those recieving the treatment. It's much easier to walk away when your life isn't at stake.

Like all those people who demanded girls to be topless to come in backstage. If they said to me to take my top off or I won't come in backstage, I'd say "fuck you, you loser". But that doesn't make them evil, it's offer and counter-offer. But if somebody would say "take your top off or you'll starve" then I might reconsider. But that would actually make them evil, cause they would know that I don't have much choice. All depends on what's at stake.

I can say to my friend "I'll give you a 20 if you do......".She won't do it, she doesn't need the 20. It's more or less no difference. But if somebody would depend on it for food, and I'd blackmail them, then I would be a piece of shit.

ThrillsNSpills
11-25-2012, 04:54 PM
The mud shark incident was confirmed by Carmine Appice to be Vanilla Fudge , and zep happened to be in the hotel.

Of course, none of that has anything to do with the DVD, which performance wise isn't anything to write home about.

Satan
11-25-2012, 05:06 PM
Yeah, they still talk about Zeppelin at the Edgewater Inn in Seattle. The Beatles also stayed there in 1964, but the worst thing they did was piss on the carpet, so it couldn't be sold by hotel managment trying to make a buck off the fans.

VAiN
11-25-2012, 05:11 PM
How much will it take to get a moron with a blue piece of shit Mustang to drive it off of the nearest cliff? :umm:

What don't you hate? You are so predictable, it's hilarious. Is your life really that bad? Brian is right, you're venomous. I feel bad for you.

Terry
11-25-2012, 05:17 PM
No, you misunderstood. I meant motivation for those recieving the treatment. It's much easier to walk away when your life isn't at stake.

Like all those people who demanded girls to be topless to come in backstage. If they said to me to take my top off or I won't come in backstage, I'd say "fuck you, you loser". But that doesn't make them evil, it's offer and counter-offer. But if somebody would say "take your top off or you'll starve" then I might reconsider. But that would actually make them evil, cause they would know that I don't have much choice. All depends on what's at stake.

I can say to my friend "I'll give you a 20 if you do......".She won't do it, she doesn't need the 20. It's more or less no difference. But if somebody would depend on it for food, and I'd blackmail them, then I would be a piece of shit.

Oh, I'd certainly agree that the motivations of the people receiving the treatment probably do differ.

Satan
11-25-2012, 05:19 PM
The mud shark incident was confirmed by Carmine Appice to be Vanilla Fudge , and zep happened to be in the hotel.

Of course, none of that has anything to do with the DVD, which performance wise isn't anything to write home about.

On the other horn, Zep's road manager Richard Cole claims it was all him....

“It wasn’t Bonzo, it was me. It wasn’t shark parts anyway: It was the nose that got put in. We caught a lot of big sharks, at least two dozen, stuck coat hangers through the gills and left ‘em in the closet . . . But the true shark story was that it wasn’t even a shark. It was a red snapper and the chick happened to be a fucking redheaded broad with a ginger pussy. And that is the truth. Bonzo was in the room, but I did it. Mark Stein [of Vanilla Fudge] filmed the whole thing. And she loved it. It was like, “You’d like a bit of fucking, eh? Let’s see how your red snapper likes this red snapper!” That was it. It was the nose of the fish, and that girl must have cum 20 times. But it was nothing malicious or harmful, no way! No one was ever hurt.”

So I guess the real question is.... why hasn't this film footage ever been leaked? I'm sure Mark Stein could probably use the money, as I don't think he's been working for a while.

envy_me
11-25-2012, 05:20 PM
Oh, I'd certainly agree that the motivations of the people receiving the treatment probably do differ.

Exactly. I'd never blackmail someone who I know doesn't have much choice.

If the girl didn't want the fish in the vag, she could have just left and the worst consequence would be a night without fucking a rock star.

But now we understand each other :-)

Terry
11-25-2012, 05:20 PM
The mud shark incident was confirmed by Carmine Appice to be Vanilla Fudge , and zep happened to be in the hotel.

Of course, none of that has anything to do with the DVD, which performance wise isn't anything to write home about.

Although to hear Richard Cole tell it, HE was the one who did it all while a member of Vanilla Fudge filmed it on a 8mm home movie camera...then again, Richard Cole probably was just talking shit back in the 1980s in order to make a few bucks.

Terry
11-25-2012, 05:23 PM
Exactly. I'd never blackmail someone who I know doesn't have much choice.

If the girl didn't want the fish in the vag, she could have just left and the worst consequence would be a night without fucking a rock star.

But now we understand each other :-)

I think we've got it all cleared up...

So, never blackmail a hobo by threatening to stuff a fish up the vag while playing Led Zeppelin records, agreed!

envy_me
11-25-2012, 05:28 PM
I think we've got it all cleared up...

So, never blackmail a hobo by threatening to stuff a fish up the vag while playing Led Zeppelin records, agreed!

Hahahahaah :lmao: Correct :D

Kristy
11-25-2012, 06:51 PM
Of course, none of that has anything to do with the DVD, which performance wise isn't anything to write home about.

Only because it would be much more interesting to watch.

Matt White
11-25-2012, 07:04 PM
http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/story/cover-story-excerpt-jimmy-page-looks-back-on-led-zeppelins-epic-ride-20121123/1000x306/20121120-jimmy-page-cover-picture-286x389-1353453010.jpg


http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/cover-story-excerpt-jimmy-page-looks-back-on-led-zeppelins-epic-ride-20121123


November 23, 2012 7:00 AM ET




Jimmy Page on the cover of Rolling Stone.

Photography by Neal Preston

In the cover story for the new issue of Rolling Stone, Jimmy Page gives his deepest interview ever, speaking to Senior Writer David Fricke for more than eight hours about his post-Zeppelin drinking problem, the death of John Bonham, his life as a Sixties session guitarist, his favorite Led Zeppelin riffs, and much more. Here is an excerpt:

You formed the group and picked the players. Would you say Led Zeppelin was your band?
There was no doubt about that. At that time, absolutely. I'm the one presenting the material and giving the ideas, how these things should be done. But the ruthless efficiency – everybody went into the first album with that. Everybody knew how good we were. And we were strict in that if we were writing something and it sounded like something else we'd done, we'd immediately drop it. There was one tipping of the hat: "Tea for One," which was like "Since I've Been Loving You" [on Led Zeppelin III]. That was intentional, to apply a different feel to that blues.

Were you hurt by the initial, negative critical reaction?
I was hoping you would ask that, writing for Rolling Stone [laughs]. There was a certain amount of acid poured on us. I could see it as venomous then. How I see it now? It went over their heads. I will give the reviewers the benefit of the doubt – each album was so different to the others. After Led Zeppelin and Led Zeppelin II, you get III: "What's this about? Acoustic guitars?" There were crazy conclusions: "They're doing a Crosby, Stills and Nash." That's because your ears weren't open to the first album, when there was quite a bit of acoustic guitar too.

Did the reviews make you mad?
It made me more determined. I knew what we had. We obliterated them in San Francisco on the first tour. [Led Zeppelin opened for Country Joe and the Fish at the Fillmore West for three nights in January 1969]. By the time we were moving on, through these other territories, everybody wanted to see what had come from the ashes of the Yardbirds.

Kristy
11-25-2012, 09:26 PM
I'm the one presenting the material and giving the ideas...

Yeah, too bad not one of them was of his own making. Fucking jerk. And no one reads RollingStone anymore. Perfect place for him to look back - when his nose isn't up his own asshole.

sadaist
11-25-2012, 10:01 PM
http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/story/cover-story-excerpt-jimmy-page-looks-back-on-led-zeppelins-epic-ride-20121123/1000x306/20121120-jimmy-page-cover-picture-286x389-1353453010.jpg


http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/cover-story-excerpt-jimmy-page-looks-back-on-led-zeppelins-epic-ride-20121123


November 23, 2012 7:00 AM ET




Jimmy Page on the cover of Rolling Stone.

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DAFUQ IS DIS?!


Cover of a music magazine...THE music magazine, and out of 4 stories only 1 is music related? WHAT THE HELL?!

FORD
11-25-2012, 10:18 PM
DAFUQ IS DIS?!


Cover of a music magazine...THE music magazine, and out of 4 stories only 1 is music related? WHAT THE HELL?!

Could be worse.... most of the time in recent years, the "music" story isn't even all that musical. I stopped subscribing to Rolling Stone in the 90's because they had too many articles and covers devoted to the likes of Titney Spears and N'Suck. The Titney covers might not have been so bad if they just put her on the cover and skipped the article. Nice to look at, but excruciating to read an interview.....

Matt White
11-26-2012, 09:06 AM
Yeah, too bad not one of them was of his own making. Fucking jerk. And no one reads RollingStone anymore. Perfect place for him to look back - when his nose isn't up his own asshole.

:ashamed::deadhorse:

HA!!!! Again....you protest Sooooo much its hysterical........PAGE hasn't been sued over his riffs...other than lifting D&C....& I've never listened to the original to see if it has the same riff...doubt it & bet the original SUCKS DOG BALLZ.................

really....maybe you should join a support group...thats a lot of negative energy to carry around...it'll age you before your time

Kristy
11-26-2012, 10:50 AM
:ashamed::deadhorse:

HA!!!! Again....you protest Sooooo much its hysterical........PAGE hasn't been sued over his riffs...other than lifting D&C....& I've never listened to the original to see if it has the same riff...doubt it & bet the original SUCKS DOG BALLZ.................

really....maybe you should join a support group...thats a lot of negative energy to carry around...it'll age you before your time

Um, yes he has, asshole. Many of them out of court. That topic has already bee discussed to death here. Maybe you should join a support group as well: The One Day I'll Move Out Of My Parents Basement And Get a Fucking Job Support Group.

Matt White
11-26-2012, 12:45 PM
Um, yes he has, asshole. Many of them out of court. That topic has already bee discussed to death here. Maybe you should join a support group as well: The One Day I'll Move Out Of My Parents Basement And Get a Fucking Job Support Group.

Ah Ah Ah........:D

Temper darling! JIMMY PAGE sued for lifting riffs?!? Better check your facts love...............

And as for my living arrangements.....moved out of the folks home more than 22 years ago....never moved back!!!

;) Nice Woman I live with & job hasn't been better.....thanks for playing though!!!

Now...fire up some Moby and relax....maybe some nice Pinot noir to help loosen all that tension............

Kristy
11-26-2012, 12:59 PM
Ah Ah Ah........:D

Temper darling! JIMMY PAGE sued for lifting riffs?!? Better check your facts love...............

Let's start here.


And as for my living arrangements.....moved out of the folks home more than 22 years ago....never moved back!!!

That's debatable


Nice Woman I live with & job hasn't been better.....thanks for playing though!!!

One you have to inflate?






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Matt White
11-26-2012, 01:10 PM
Come on......turn on some Chris Whitley.......light a scented candle....(By the way, Chris LOVED LED ZEPPELIN & Jimmy Page).....he told me so when I met him in A2 back in the day...poor guy was already slipping away due to the cancer.........

and Hey!!! Joe Bonamassa LOVES JIMMY PAGE TOO!!! He's says so here!!!

really...break that wine open & relax..........

Kristy
11-26-2012, 02:00 PM
Oh yeah, good ol' Joe Boneheadmassa a plagiarists who plagiarizes other guitar plagiarists. That douchebag is about as interesting to watch and listen to as cooking brown rice.

78/84 guy
11-26-2012, 06:58 PM
Oh yeah, good ol' Joe Boneheadmassa a plagiarists who plagiarizes other guitar plagiarists. That douchebag is about as interesting to watch and listen to as cooking brown rice.

You really need to get laid more ! It doesn't matter the topic around here. If you didn't start it you find a way to bitch about it. Kind of sad really. I was reading through this post and the bitterness people have & show over something as stupid as a guitarist or a band is laughable too me. I get that the topic is Zeppelin and it is a place to post your thoughts. but the way it spawns into Page is scum & Jason Bonham is a horrible drummer and on and on is kind of fucked up. It's just pure bitterness about people you don't even know. Sure it's fun to bitch once in awhile but some of this shit is like life & death around here. If you don't like Page or Zeppelin don't fucking listen to it. Again it's a Zep topic but do people really think they were the only band doing wild shit in the late 60's and 70's ? PLEEESE !

Matt White
11-26-2012, 10:04 PM
You really need to get laid more ! It doesn't matter the topic around here. If you didn't start it you find a way to bitch about it. Kind of sad really. I was reading through this post and the bitterness people have & show over something as stupid as a guitarist or a band is laughable too me. I get that the topic is Zeppelin and it is a place to post your thoughts. but the way it spawns into Page is scum & Jason Bonham is a horrible drummer and on and on is kind of fucked up. It's just pure bitterness about people you don't even know. Sure it's fun to bitch once in awhile but some of this shit is like life & death around here. If you don't like Page or Zeppelin don't fucking listen to it. Again it's a Zep topic but do people really think they were the only band doing wild shit in the late 60's and 70's ? PLEEESE !

LMMFAO

She's just the resident Troll....we've had Fabulous ones, we've had Sheepeople & Hagaritas.....Hell, we had the STAR........

trust me....she'll grow tired of it...they all do in time.....the endless claptrap is difficult to maintain....

LoungeMachine
11-26-2012, 10:16 PM
You really need to get laid more ! It doesn't matter the topic around here. If you didn't start it you find a way to bitch about it. Kind of sad really.

Want to know where you've seen Kristy before?






:gulp:

chefcraig
11-27-2012, 11:08 AM
Want to know where you've seen Kristy before?
:gulp:

Diane Chambers: [about Playboy Playmates] What kind of culture do I live where they are the ideal woman?
Ernie 'Coach' Pantusso: Well gee Diane, you've got to admit they are beautiful.
Diane Chambers: Coach, take away all their make-up, all their expensive hair cuts and those bodies, and what have you got?
Carla Tortelli: You!


Cliff Clavin: Guess what followed me home?
Carla: A slime trail?

Carla Tortelli: You know Diane, you shouldn't be investing in a tanning salon, you ought to be using one. You've got skin the color of Elmer's glue. Hey Frasier, you know there's something I've always been meaning to ask you. What was your reaction the first time you saw Diane naked?
[Carla slaps Frasier on his sunburned back]
Dr. Frasier Crane: [screams] Owwwe-ah!

Kristy
11-27-2012, 11:12 AM
...and where have we seen LoungeMachine's fat ass before?

Matt White
11-27-2012, 11:15 AM
HA!!!




:P

Kristy
11-27-2012, 11:30 AM
^ ^ ^

Ghey

Matt White
11-27-2012, 11:36 AM
pleeze............

http://uncoolghoul.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/psycho.jpg







BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Kristy
11-27-2012, 04:36 PM
^^^^
Even more ghey

Matt White
11-27-2012, 10:52 PM
^^^^
Even more ghey

But Still better than that talentless hack Robben Ford!!!!

HA!!!!

Matt White
11-27-2012, 10:56 PM
The Incredible JUNIOR BROWN............

I was front row for this show.............

check him out at the 2:08 mark........UH huHuh Uhu HU HuHU U HU hhuhu

Kristy
11-27-2012, 10:58 PM
^ ^ ^ ^
Not so much ghey as the others but it's still Zep so it's ghey.

Kristy
11-27-2012, 11:27 PM
But Still better than that talentless hack Robben Ford!!!!

HA!!!!

Says you.

ashstralia
11-28-2012, 04:19 AM
Jimmy's playing on the Coverdale Page album is sublime, and highly underrated.

:activates flame invincibility:

Coyote
11-28-2012, 07:53 AM
Oh yeah, good ol' Joe Boneheadmassa a plagiarists who plagiarizes other guitar plagiarists. That douchebag is about as interesting to watch and listen to as cooking brown rice.




But Still better than that talentless hack Robben Ford!!!!

HA!!!!


Please, don't get me started on either one... For the last three years I've heard nothing but this from my guitar teachers: "Listen to Bonamassa/Ford and you'll be a better guitarist."
"Bullshit, I learned those licks from Gary Moore/Jimmy Page years ago" I said...

Matt White
11-28-2012, 07:58 AM
Says you.

Damn Straight, toots!!!

chefcraig
11-28-2012, 08:29 AM
Please, don't get me started on either one... For the last three years I've heard nothing but this from my guitar teachers: "Listen to Bonamassa/Ford and you'll be a better guitarist."
"Bullshit, I learned those licks from Gary Moore/Jimmy Page years ago" I said...

To this day, I firmly believe that Edward Van Halen and Gary Moore learned everything they know/knew about the guitar (be it attack or tone), from Jan Akkerman's playing on this album. OK, at least I'll admit that I did. Yet fer fuck's sake, it even featured a segment entitled "Eruption."


http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu358/trein1600/Front-185.jpg

Va Beach VH Fan
11-28-2012, 08:49 AM
I'm going to grab this today, got a good deal on a new home theater system and a Blu-Ray....

This should look great on Blu-Ray, no ??

Matt White
11-28-2012, 08:51 AM
I'm sure it does..............


Good way for ZEP to go out

Kristy
11-28-2012, 09:47 AM
This should look great on Blu-Ray, no ??

Especially when you throw it in the trash where the DVD belongs. Of course I know this could be an environmental concern but it's for the best.

Matt White
11-28-2012, 10:01 AM
Especially when you throw it in the trash where the DVD belongs. Of course I know this could be an environmental concern but it's for the best.

http://blindgossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/baby-crying-1.jpg

Kristy
11-28-2012, 10:13 AM
^^^^
Mega ghey

Matt White
11-28-2012, 10:16 AM
^^^^
Mega ghey

Yeah yeah...sure sure

Coyote
11-28-2012, 10:44 AM
To this day, I firmly believe that Edward Van Halen and Gary Moore learned everything they know/knew about the guitar (be it attack or tone), from Jan Akkerman's playing on this album. OK, at least I'll admit that I did. Yet fer fuck's sake, it even featured a segment entitled "Eruption."


http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu358/trein1600/Front-185.jpg

I'm gonna have give those albums a re-listen...

Va Beach VH Fan
11-28-2012, 10:46 AM
If anyone has watched it on Blu-Ray, I would appreciate your comments on it, vice a regular DVD copy...

chefcraig
11-28-2012, 03:11 PM
I'm gonna have give those albums a re-listen...

Moving Waves really is a great listen, full of fluid. gorgeous and at times ferocious playing. Interestingly enough, there is a brief, maniacally heavy metal, unaccompanied guitar solo somewhere within the "Eruption" piece, which sounds suspiciously similar to Moore's "Dirty Fingers" solo released years later, as well as serving as a blue print for what Ed would perform on the first album and just about ever since.

Diamondjimi
11-28-2012, 03:31 PM
^^^^
Even more ghey

Really?

>>>>> http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Music/Pix/pictures/2008/09/16/Cure276.jpg<<<<<

Va Beach VH Fan
11-28-2012, 05:49 PM
Out-fuckin-standing !!

That is all....

Kristy
11-28-2012, 05:55 PM
Out-fuckin-standing !!

That is all....

Wow! Just wow! A THREE WORD review of the garbage that is Led Zeppelin. Why am I not surprised?

78/84 guy
11-28-2012, 06:02 PM
I'm going to grab this today, got a good deal on a new home theater system and a Blu-Ray....

This should look great on Blu-Ray, no ??

Correct. It's to bad they stuck in the 16 mil. tape in parts. The rest is very nice.

78/84 guy
11-28-2012, 06:06 PM
Wow! Just wow! A THREE WORD review of the garbage that is Led Zeppelin. Why am I not surprised?

Did you ever think you might be the one with really bad taste in music ? I just looked at your list of guitar players. I'll give ya 3 of them. There is a reason Zeppelin has sold a ton of albums. And they don't sit on peoples shelves. Page is top 5 all time if you like him or not.

envy_me
11-28-2012, 06:12 PM
The Incredible JUNIOR BROWN............

I was front row for this show.............

check him out at the 2:08 mark........UH huHuh Uhu HU HuHU U HU hhuhu




Hahah, he's so funny. Wasn't he the one who had a song called something My wife thinks you're dead? My brother used to love him.

78/84 guy
11-28-2012, 06:26 PM
The Incredible JUNIOR BROWN............

I was front row for this show.............

check him out at the 2:08 mark........UH huHuh Uhu HU HuHU U HU hhuhu



Sweet shit right there ! Love it.

Va Beach VH Fan
11-28-2012, 06:36 PM
Wow! Just wow! A THREE WORD review of the garbage that is Led Zeppelin. Why am I not surprised?

What do you want, War and Peace?

78/84 guy
11-28-2012, 06:37 PM
With her ? Just war !