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Nickdfresh

10-23-2012, 10:33 PM

On PBS now, "Climate of Doubt."

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Last vid at http://video.pbs.org/video/2295533310

ELVIS

10-23-2012, 10:40 PM

An issue so made up of total bullshit, neither presidential candidate mentions it one single time...

Put a fork in man made global warming...it's done...

:elvis:

Nickdfresh

10-23-2012, 10:46 PM

An issue so made up of total bullshit, neither presidential candidate mentions it one single time...

Put a fork in man made global warming...it's done...

:elvis:

We'll remember that when your shithole in Inbred, LA is underwater...

FORD

10-23-2012, 10:53 PM

An issue so made up of total bullshit, neither presidential candidate mentions it one single time...

Put a fork in man made global warming...it's done...

:elvis:

Did you watch the debate tonight?

Jill Stein and Rocky Anderson both mentioned it.

ELVIS

10-23-2012, 11:08 PM

No, i'd like to see it...

ELVIS

10-23-2012, 11:09 PM

We'll remember that when your shithole in Inbred, LA is underwater...

OK, Algoreforbreath...

FORD

10-23-2012, 11:14 PM

No, i'd like to see it...

C Span has the video on their website, and I wouldn't be surprised if they ran it again on TV later tonight.

http://www.c-span.org/Events/Third-Party-Presidential-Debate/10737435220/

BigBadBrian

10-24-2012, 06:02 AM

Nickdfresh

10-24-2012, 08:43 AM

OK, Algoreforbreath...

You're a hoot, sister-fucker. Hey, what is Alex Jones' take on the subject? I'm sure yours is exactly the same...

Nickdfresh

10-24-2012, 08:44 AM

Can we have a phrase instead of "Climate Change Deniers": "Climate Change Don't-Give-A-Fuckers?"

There's nothing anyone can do about it until China and India play ball with us on this. Until then, it's just the US and EU that are tying our own hands industrially and economically.

Then that's a separate, but valid, issue, and should be addressed without denying basic science. Nobody is more aware of this than China's budding Green movement...

FORD

10-28-2012, 09:44 PM

Finally got around to watching this.... it's frightening how far KKKoch Brothers/Exxon money can go when accompanied by two digit IQ cheerleading. :(

Nitro Express

10-28-2012, 09:55 PM

Don't blame me. I just bought a new bicycle.

gbranton

10-29-2012, 12:41 AM

It was 0.7 degrees cooler than average this summer here.

big fatty

10-29-2012, 12:58 AM

In Vancouver, Canada, it has been hotter than hell since May, and even right now, at 10pm, it is 12 degrees, I just walked my dog around my neighborhood in my shorts and a hoodie.

It used to be cold this time of year. Now it is warm. There is absolutley no question in my mind that this part of the globe is far warmer each year, no doubt about it at all. I wish it was cold, I'm sick of being hot all the time, like I'm living in a sauna for fuck sakes, too much humidity, not enough cold air.

ELVIS

10-29-2012, 01:03 AM

It was 0.7 degrees cooler than average this summer here.

That's proof of global warming...

sadaist

10-29-2012, 03:38 AM

An issue so made up of total bullshit, neither presidential candidate mentions it one single time...

Put a fork in man made global warming...it's done...

:elvis:

Even Al Gore doesn't give a shit any more because he made his millions off it. Arnold Shwarzenegger totally fucked California with the global warming initiative. Just another way to squeeze out more tax money from the people. These fuckers won't rest until they get all of our money. Everyone just work for the government & they will supply us with our food & housing.

Global Warming was just a passing trend to create more taxes, rules & regulations.

Kristy

10-29-2012, 09:41 AM

Don't blame me. I just bought a new bicycle.

As have I. With the ridiculous price of gas I find myself using my bike more and more for short errand trips. Was seriously thinking about getting a motorcycle but no way can afford another mode of transportation that I have to pay insurance on.

Nickdfresh

10-29-2012, 10:33 AM

It was 0.7 degrees cooler than average this summer here.

Nothing like nice anecdotal factoids to combat actual science. I'm pretty sure when I walk and drive around, the ground seems flat--therefore the Earth must be flat!! But...

2012 Has Been Warmest Year In U.S. To Date, Third Hottest Summer

Posted: 09/10/2012 2:03 pm

From Climate Central's Andrew Freedman:

Driven by a warmer-than-average June, the hottest ever July, and a warmer-than-average August, the summer of 2012 will go down in the history books as the third-warmest summer on record for the lower 48 states, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) announced Monday. The nation’s second-warmest summer occurred just last year, and the only other summer that was warmer than the past two occurred during the Dust Bowl era of 1936. This summer was just two tenths of a degree cooler than the summer of 1936.

2012 warmest year

For the year-to-date, the U.S. had its warmest eight months of any year on record, and the past 12 months have been the warmest such period as well. During the eight-month period, 33 states were record warm and 12 states ranked in the top 10.

Sixteen states in the West, Plains, and Upper Midwest had summer temperatures among their 10 highest, as did seven Northeastern states from New Hampshire to Maryland. Colorado and Wyoming each had their record hottest summer. In Wyoming, the seasonal-average temperature was nearly 5°F above average.

The summer heatwaves this year were not quite as intense as the heat in 2011, but they affected more people. According to NOAA, more than 80 million people — about 10 million more than 2011 — experienced 100°F temperatures this summer. Climate change studies show that heat waves are becoming more common as manmade global warming continues. For the summer as a whole, warm-temperature records outnumbered cool-temperature records by a ratio of 3.5 to 1.
...

The Rest @ Huffy Post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/10/2012-warmest-year-summer-record-breaking_n_1871216.html)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_2012_North_American_heat_wave

http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-blogs/climatechange/2012-likely-to-reach-record-hi-1/38255

http://www.climatecentral.org/blogs/a-breakdown-of-record-summer-temperatures/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/summers-record-heat-drought-point-to-longer-term-climate-issues/2012/08/11/e1e6c68c-e313-11e1-a25e-15067bb31849_story.html

One of the above links shows that those idiots at NASA actually predicted that 2012 would be the hottest year on record. Moron rocket scientists! What do they know! I only trust the word of political lobbyists & politicians with oil company cum all over their faces...

gbranton

10-29-2012, 02:55 PM

Nothing like nice anecdotal factoids to combat actual science.

Anecdote, yes. Factoid, no. If you are going to use the term, learn what it means.

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/02/the-difference-between-a-fact-and-a-factoid/

Nickdfresh

10-29-2012, 07:04 PM

Anecdote, yes. Factoid, no. If you are going to use the term, learn what it means.

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/02/the-difference-between-a-fact-and-a-factoid/

You lecturing me, broh?:

Factoid

A factoid is a questionable or spurious (unverified, false, or fabricated) statement presented as a fact, but with no veracity. The word can also be used to describe a particularly insignificant or novel fact, in the absence of much relevant context.[1] The word is defined by the Compact Oxford English Dictionary as "an item of unreliable information that is repeated so often that it becomes accepted as fact".[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factoid

ELVIS

10-29-2012, 07:25 PM

Wow, you sure are a fart smeller...

LoungeMachine

10-29-2012, 09:28 PM

Don't blame me. I just bought a new bicycle.

Didn't you used to work for Schwinn?

:gulp:

gbranton

10-29-2012, 09:36 PM

You lecturing me, broh?:

Take it however you want. I stated a documented FACT and you called it a factoid in order to dismiss it. My experiences here in my town may or may not be typical, but they are FACT and not FACTOID. Or are you gonna start telling me how things are down here AGAIN?

vh rides again

10-29-2012, 09:53 PM

PETE'S BROTHER

10-29-2012, 10:27 PM

Angel

10-29-2012, 11:32 PM

Alaska had record snowfall this year.

Considering the weather on a global scale has been watched and recorded for such a short time, I'd say these global warming nuts are crying wolf.

Not enough info.

Roth And Roll

Um, that would be because it's warmer. If it's it really cold
It won't snow. The warmer it is, the more precipitation there is.

Sent from my GS2, bitches

DONNIEP

10-29-2012, 11:45 PM

I have to go to Cape Cod next week on business - wonder if it'll still be there :gulp:

Nickdfresh

10-30-2012, 12:37 AM

Take it however you want. I stated a documented FACT and you called it a factoid in order to dismiss it. My experiences here in my town may or may not be typical, but they are FACT and not FACTOID. Or are you gonna start telling me how things are down here AGAIN?

When you use your personal experiences to draw some wider societal conclusion, they become factoids...

Nickdfresh

10-30-2012, 12:38 AM

I have to go to Cape Cod next week on business - wonder if it'll still be there :gulp:

Hopefully the yuppie Dot.Com assholes that ruined it will be gone...

Nickdfresh

10-30-2012, 12:43 AM

Alaska had record snowfall this year.

Considering the weather on a global scale has been watched and recorded for such a short time, I'd say these global warming nuts are crying wolf.

Not enough info.

Roth And Roll

Do you live in Alaska? How was Iowa, when I was there last it was pretty hot. And snow in itself means nothing as Global Warming can actually cause unsettled weather as it doesn't even need to be freezing to get snow. We had a lot of snow here about six years ago in early October 2006, I wasn't in town, but that heavy, wet snow took out a good portion of the trees and was a federal disaster. It almost never had snowed here in early October with any accumulation anyways. But we got almost two feet IIRC, with fairly warm temperatures....

But good job ignoring the facts I posted about 2012 being the hottest fucking year on record to pull some dipshit "factoid" out of your asshole...

Nickdfresh

10-30-2012, 12:44 AM

Wow, you sure are a fart smeller...

If you can see your farts as your wife pulls your finger, does that mean Global Warming isn't real?

vh rides again

10-30-2012, 12:27 PM

Um, that would be because it's warmer. If it's it really cold
It won't snow. The warmer it is, the more precipitation there is.

Sent from my GS2, bitches

Really
How the fuck do you explain glaciers?

Do you know how glaciers are formed ?

Your snowfall theory just doesn't add up sister.

Roth And Roll

Angel

10-30-2012, 04:27 PM

Really
How the fuck do you explain glaciers?

Do you know how glaciers are formed ?

Your snowfall theory just doesn't add up sister.

Roth And Roll

Have you ever lived where there's snow. Believe me, when it's -40, it is too fucking cold to snow!!!!!

Sent from my GS2, bitches

big fatty

10-30-2012, 04:45 PM

Angel

10-30-2012, 05:04 PM

Saskatchewan rymes with fun, but doesn't end in ' gina. Can you just please tell me the name of the city, as I have been wondering all month or so. My head is getting dizzy from trying to figure it out.

Regina, the city that rhymes with fun. It's the city's catch phrase, lol. Because it rhymes with vagina...

Sent from my GS2, bitches

big fatty

10-30-2012, 05:13 PM

Oh, O.K. That was my first guess last time, but I thought you said I got it wrong. Hee, hee, hee. I'll have to lay off the you know what for a while.

* smacks self in head again *

Angel

10-30-2012, 05:44 PM

Oh, O.K. That was my first guess last time, but I thought you said I got it wrong. Hee, hee, hee. I'll have to lay off the you know what for a while.

* smacks self in head again *

I probably smoked a fatty before answering and caused confusion, lol. Btw, I'll be visiting the island this xmas...

Sent from my GS2, bitches

big fatty

10-30-2012, 05:56 PM

I probably smoked a fatty before answering and caused confusion, lol. Btw, I'll be visiting the island this xmas...

Sent from my GS2, bitches

Cool, You can get some good chinese food again, and it will be a hell of a lot warmer than Regina. :thumb::stoned-smiley::smiley-lol:

DONNIEP

10-30-2012, 06:08 PM

For what it's worth, Ski Beech is having its earliest opening in its history. So does that mean it's warmer than usual up there or colder? I guess I could google it but I don't care that much :)

envy_me

10-30-2012, 06:13 PM

For what it's worth, Ski Beech is having its earliest opening in its history. So does that mean it's warmer than usual up there or colder? I guess I could google it but I don't care that much :)

Yet the ice-blocks on the north pole are melting like never before. I wouldn't trust Ski Beech in a scientific context.

DONNIEP

10-30-2012, 06:38 PM

Tell that to the skiers :)

vh rides again

10-30-2012, 07:01 PM

Have you ever lived where there's snow. Believe me, when it's -40, it is too fucking cold to snow!!!!!

Sent from my GS2, bitches

Duh
I live on the iowa illinois border. second to last snow storm we got here was 18-24 inches with 6 foot drifts.

No shortage of snow here.

This October seems to be a cold one, its been near freezing in the morning, lots of frost on everything.

I would be one to notice it too, I fish every morning before work and usually after work.

Only reason I'm not slaying a walleye tonight is so I can hand out some candy.

Roth And Roll

vh rides again

10-30-2012, 07:12 PM

ELVIS

10-30-2012, 07:14 PM

You need a woman...

One that likes to fish...

http://tahoemtb.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/db_a_woman_who_understands_fishing1.jpg

:elvis:

Angel

10-30-2012, 07:15 PM

Yet the ice-blocks on the north pole are melting like never before. I wouldn't trust Ski Beech in a scientific context.

I couldn't believe it the last time I went to the Columbia Ice Fields. The glacier used to come right to the edge of the parking lot. Now you have to hike a hell of a long way before you get to the edge of the glacier. It's mind-blowing!!:what::eek:

Sent from my GS2, bitches

Angel

10-30-2012, 07:19 PM

Duh
I live on the iowa illinois border. second to last snow storm we got here was 18-24 inches with 6 foot drifts.

No shortage of snow here.

This October seems to be a cold one, its been near freezing in the morning, lots of frost on everything.

I would be one to notice it too, I fish every morning before work and usually after work.

Only reason I'm not slaying a walleye tonight is so I can hand out some candy.

Roth And Roll

It wasn't 40 below though, was it? When it's that cold, you get ice crystals but no snowflakes. Our October has been nice and warm...by our standards.

Why the hell would you be handing out candy tonight? Hallowe'ens tomorrow. :confused:

Sent from my GS2, bitches

ELVIS

10-30-2012, 07:24 PM

Why the hell would you be handing out candy tonight? Hallowe'ens tomorrow. :confused:

Hallowe'ens ??

Angel

10-30-2012, 07:24 PM

For what it's worth, Ski Beech is having its earliest opening in its history. So does that mean it's warmer than usual up there or colder? I guess I could google it but I don't care that much :)

It means they've had more snow than normal :D Is it an El Nino year this year?

Sent from my GS2, bitches

vh rides again

10-30-2012, 07:27 PM

Have you ever lived where there's snow. Believe me, when it's -40, it is too fucking cold to snow!!!!!

Sent from my GS2, bitches

Not true

That is the perfect definition of a blizzard , heavy snowfall and below zero temps, high winds.

Happens in iowa every year.

Roth And Roll

vh rides again

10-30-2012, 07:39 PM

It wasn't 40 below though, was it? When it's that cold, you get ice crystals but no snowflakes. Our October has been nice and warm...by our standards.

Why the hell would you be handing out candy tonight? Hallowe'ens tomorrow. :confused:

Sent from my GS2, bitches

No

It rarely gets that cold here, but I can remember a year that we had 100 degree below wind chills.

You must be out near Montana or there abouts.

If it gets 40 below where your at, you should be in favor of global warming and not arguing with me. :)

I live in what is called the quad cities along the Mississippi River.

Different city's have events like parades so they alternate trick or treat nights so everyone can attend.

Works out great for the kids, two nights of candy.

A lot of parents shuttle kids across the river so they can trick or treat a couple nights.

Roth And Roll

Angel

10-30-2012, 08:30 PM

Not true

That is the perfect definition of a blizzard , heavy snowfall and below zero temps, high winds.

Happens in iowa every year.

Roth And Roll

Honey, we are the kings of blizzards up here. You won't see a blizzard when it's that cold. Cold, windy, ice crystals...yes. But no snow flakes. I wouldn't be surprised if we get the most blizzards per annum...

Sent from my GS2, bitches

Angel

10-30-2012, 08:31 PM

vh rides again

10-30-2012, 08:44 PM

I'm in Saskatchewan....

Sent from my GS2, bitches

Friggin Canadians.

Roth And Roll

Angel

10-30-2012, 08:45 PM

Hallowe'ens ??

Still adjusting to the new phone...asshole

Sent from my GS2, bitches

Seshmeister

10-30-2012, 08:53 PM

I'm totally confused by this Sandy thing. According to the majority of Americans I thought all you had to do when you got bad news about the weather from scientists is just say 'No I don't like that so I'm not going to believe in it' and then the problem would just be magicked away apparently...

Va Beach VH Fan

10-30-2012, 09:33 PM

big fatty

10-30-2012, 09:39 PM

No

It rarely gets that cold here, but I can remember a year that we had 100 degree below wind chills.

You must be out near Montana or there abouts.

If it gets 40 below where your at, you should be in favor of global warming and not arguing with me. :)

I live in what is called the quad cities along the Mississippi River.

Different city's have events like parades so they alternate trick or treat nights so everyone can attend.

Works out great for the kids, two nights of candy.

A lot of parents shuttle kids across the river so they can trick or treat a couple nights.

Roth And Roll

No wonder so many kids down there are fat. They are double dipping in the Halloween candy for fuck sakes.

In my country, they only have one night to trick or treat. I actually ate most of the peanut butter cups myself already, so I'm hoping the little hellions don't come knocking, so I can hog it all to my self.

Those damned firecrackers drive my dog bonkers, I have to keep him inside, or he gets spooked.:boom::hee::pullinghair::yum:

FORD

10-30-2012, 09:54 PM

All I know is those same people that wanted to get rid of FEMA can't say the words "FEMA" and "federal aid" quick enough....

And then they will turn around and vote for the piece of shit who wants to get rid of it...... if they're able to vote at all.

Va Beach VH Fan

10-30-2012, 10:47 PM

And then they will turn around and vote for the piece of shit who wants to get rid of it...... if they're able to vote at all.

Oh, you mean the guy who won't answer ANY questions about FEMA now ??

FORD

10-30-2012, 10:53 PM

Mittens doesn't want you to know what his real plans for FEMA are. Under his pResidency, it would stand for

Father
Elohim's
Mormon
Assimilation

And would be totally devoted to using federal funds to baptizing the dead who were killed in emergencies.

ELVIS

10-31-2012, 01:48 AM

That's just silly...

envy_me

10-31-2012, 03:08 AM

envy_me

10-31-2012, 03:13 AM

The weather changes and there's no proof at all that anything we are doing is contributing to earths temps.

How did we cause the dust bowl ?

We didn't but a never before seen climate change turned a large part of this country into a wasteland for a long time.

It's nothing more than crying wolf .

without any data other than seeing earths climate make a change in an unfavorable direction , they can't predict what's going to happen to climates any better than they can give a accurate 5 day forecast , LOL.

They don't know shit.

Roth And Roll

Lets just say for the sake of the argument that we didn't cause this and that it's just as natural as ice-age.
We have no data on when it stops or how much damage it does. If we can prevent a disaster (even a natural one) or at least slow it down, wouldn't we wanna do that? At least all of you who have children should have their best interest in mind.

philouze

10-31-2012, 03:47 AM

That's exactly why I don't have kids. I only care about me.

ELVIS

10-31-2012, 03:57 AM

We who, the government ??

envy_me

10-31-2012, 04:24 AM

We who, the government ??

Are you replying to me?

When I say we, I mean the inhabitans of this planet.

Goverment? Yours or mine?

envy_me

10-31-2012, 04:26 AM

That's exactly why I don't have kids. I only care about me.

Same here. There are scary things happening and I don't want to worry about my children.

philouze

10-31-2012, 04:28 AM

Same here. There are scary things happening and I don't want to worry about my children.

That's my kinda girl !! ;)

ELVIS

10-31-2012, 04:36 AM

Are you replying to me?

When I say we, I mean the inhabitans of this planet.

Goverment? Yours or mine?

When people say we, they usually mean the government...

ELVIS

10-31-2012, 04:37 AM

Same here. There are scary things happening and I don't want to worry about my children.

Scary things always happen...

philouze

10-31-2012, 04:40 AM

Scary things always happen...

Hell yeah:

http://everyjoe.com/files/2009/02/allaccesspix004387-eddie-trunk.jpg

envy_me

10-31-2012, 04:40 AM

When people say we, they usually mean the government...

Okay. But since we don't share a goverment, it's pointless to talk about them.

But don't you agree that if a disaster is heading, natural or not, it would be good to try and stop it or slow it down? If I feel like I'm about to get a cold, I try and prevent it before it breaks out, even if colds are natural.

envy_me

10-31-2012, 04:45 AM

Scary things always happen...

Sure, but to a degree you can choose what you want to expose yourself to. To a degree. I can choose not to expose myself to the concern that having a child would bring me.

vh rides again

10-31-2012, 07:11 AM

Lets just say for the sake of the argument that we didn't cause this and that it's just as natural as ice-age.
We have no data on when it stops or how much damage it does. If we can prevent a disaster (even a natural one) or at least slow it down, wouldn't we wanna do that? At least all of you who have children should have their best interest in mind.

Yes , so they should start with the cutting of the rain forest's I see a real danger there.

Roth And Roll

philouze

10-31-2012, 07:14 AM

Yes , so they should start with the cutting of the rain forest's I see a real danger there.l

I sense a Ted Nugent move right there...

WACF

10-31-2012, 11:00 AM

Perspective....

Weather change....it is real because we are still coming out of the last ice age.
We tend to think everything happens in our life time...reality is even if you live to a hundred it is still a speck compared to what the earth has gone through.

Do many people even realize that at one time the earth had no ice caps?

The Potash that I mine is actually an ancient sea bed....over 300 million years old....and the equator was actually here....almost in the middle of Saskatchewan.

The best way to look at is that climate change is a fact of life.

The problem is we are polluting our environment...destroying our home...and that needs to be dealt with.
We are perhaps speeding it up...or just plain poisoning ourselves.

We should lose the climate change religion...that is easy to be divisive on.

It should be about polluting....the science can not dispute that.

ZahZoo

10-31-2012, 11:21 AM

It means they've had more snow than normal :D Is it an El Nino year this year?

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http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/enso_advisory/ensodisc.pdf

EL NIÑO/SOUTHERN OSCILLATION (ENSO) DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION
issued by
CLIMATE PREDICTION CENTER/NCEP/NWS
and the International Research Institute for Climate and Society
4 October 2012
ENSO Alert System Status: El Niño Watch
Synopsis: Borderline ENSO-neutral/ weak El Niño conditions are expected to continue into Northern Hemisphere winter 2012-13, possibly strengthening during the next few months.
During September 2012, the trend towards El Niño slowed in several key oceanic and atmospheric indicators. However, the Pacific basin reflects borderline ENSO-neutral/ weak El Niño conditions. Equatorial sea surface temperatures (SST) remained elevated across the Pacific Ocean (Fig. 1), although anomalies decreased during the month as indicated by weekly index values in the Niño regions (Fig. 2). The oceanic heat content (average temperature in the upper 300m of the ocean) anomalies also weakened (Fig. 3), but continued to show large regions of above-average temperatures at depth across the equatorial Pacific (Fig. 4). Interestingly, low-level westerly wind anomalies were evident over the equatorial western Pacific Ocean (Fig. 5), which may portend possible strengthening of the subsurface anomalies in the coming months. Despite these winds, the atmosphere was still largely ENSO-neutral, as reflected by the Southern Oscillation index and near-average upper-level and lower-level winds across much of the Pacific. Tropical convection increased near the Date Line, which is consistent with weak El Niño conditions, but also remained elevated over eastern Indonesia, which is further westward than expected (Fig. 6). Thus, the atmosphere and ocean indicate borderline ENSO-neutral/ weak El Niño conditions.

PETE'S BROTHER

10-31-2012, 12:14 PM

Same here. There are scary things happening and I don't want to worry about my children.

i didn't wanna pay to raise any children...:nono:

vh rides again

10-31-2012, 12:24 PM

I sense a Ted Nugent move right there...

Well there is actual proof with satellite video of the rain forests producing their own weather systems by releasing oxygen and moisture into the atmosphere, you can actually see it.

I don't quite get the Ted Nugent thing.

Roth And Roll

Satan

10-31-2012, 03:04 PM

The new Frontline looks interesting as well.....

In a special investigation travel to the remote epicenter of the campaign finance debate for a tale of money, politics, and intrigue. Also, FRONTLINE goes deep inside the Romney and Obama campaigns to uncover how data collected is being used by both camps to target their messages, get out the vote, and shape the election.

FORD

10-31-2012, 04:33 PM

Why Jill Stein went to the front line of the climate crisis today
Posted by Jill Stein for President 2581.80pc on October 31, 2012 · Flag

In the wake of Hurricane Sandy, Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein was handcuffed and arrested this morning after bringing food and supplies to a coalition of climate justice activists, known as the “Tar Sands Blockade,” who are attempting to stop the Keystone XL pipeline in Texas. She is currently at Wood County Jail awaiting processing.

“Everyone needs to step up resistance to climate-killing emissions,” said Stein, who was willing to risk arrest in order to show solidarity for this blockade. “Romney and Obama are only talking about the symptoms of climate change in terms of destruction caused by Hurricane Sandy; the blockaders are addressing the cause.”

Jill Stein was joined by seven others, including three blockaders and four members of the press. They were delivering fresh fruits and vegetables, canned proteins, trail mix, and Halloween candy. They were not warned of imminent arrests; and the arresting officers did not self-identify as police.

Prior to running for office, Jill Stein, a 62-year old physician and mother of two, had never been arrested.

"Climate change means more frequent severe storms that lead to massive flooding and destruction,” said Stein, speaking at the ongoing protests in Texas against the proposed Keystone XL natural gas project. “We will see more destructive storms than Sandy in the years to come. We have to stop spending our tax dollars to build homes in low-lying coastal areas and flood plains. The billions spent rebuilding the NYC subway system must reflect that sea levels will continue to rise.” Stein noted that the flooding of the NYC subway system had been predicted in several recent climate change reports prepared for the state government.

Stein has been the only national presidential candidate who has made dealing with climate change a major focus. She supports reducing the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere to below 350 ppm. The Green New Deal, the centerpiece of her campaign, includes investing hundreds of billions of dollars to transition to a carbon neutral economy, paid for through cuts to the military budget, elimination of subsidies for fossil fuels and nukes, and higher taxes on the wealthy and Wall Street.

"We can't just listen to climate change scientists for a few days after a disaster occurs, before politicians go back to business as usual. America has been both the major contributor to climate change and the major denier of the need for action. Obama and Romney's push to develop more domestic fossil fuels will accelerate our rush down the path of destruction while increasing the profits of the oil, coal and gas companies," added Cheri Honkala, the Green Vice-Presidential candidate.

The world already has five times as much oil, coal and gas available as climate scientists say the atmosphere can tolerate. So rather than drill for more fossil fuels, we must keep 80 percent of those reserves locked away safely underground to avoid a climate disaster.

While recognizing that climate change is already underway, Stein has laid out a number of major steps that should be taken to slow it down. Stein said that the government must also begin investing in how to mitigate its impacts.

"A major reason why our political and business leaders have failed to take action on climate change is because too many of them believe that it will be cheaper to deal with the consequences of climate change than to reduce it. The economic and human costs from Hurricane Sandy shows this to be the wrong calculation," said Stein.

A recent report commissioned by 20 nations found that 400,000 people are already being killed annually by climate change, while costing the world economy more than $1.2 trillion a year. (http://daraint.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/CVM2ndEd-FrontMatter.pdf)

To read more about why activists are opposing the Keystone XL pipeline visit: http://tarsandsblockade.org/about-2/why-oppose-kxl/

jhale667

10-31-2012, 08:04 PM

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h217/jhale667/tr1031warm.jpg

BigBadBrian

11-01-2012, 06:50 AM

I see Jill Stein got arrested again.

Angel

11-09-2012, 07:22 PM

Speaking of blizzards, got the first of the season. A foot of snow on the ground now. At 7 this morning there was none.

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ELVIS

11-09-2012, 10:36 PM

I see Jill Stein got arrested again.

Maybe you should try reading the threads once in awhile...

Nitro Express

11-09-2012, 11:02 PM

It's not just weather patterns. There has been a huge increase of volcanic and seismic activity. Change yes, but change that is much bigger than anything we could do.

gbranton

11-23-2012, 04:22 PM

Nothing like nice anecdotal factoids to combat actual science. I'm pretty sure when I walk and drive around, the ground seems flat--therefore the Earth must be flat!!

More anecdotal factoids. Looks like I wasn't the only one who experienced a cooler summer, LOL.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2217286/Global-warming-stopped-16-years-ago-reveals-Met-Office-report-quietly-released--chart-prove-it.html?goback=.gde_40850_member_186903589

"The world stopped getting warmer almost 16 years ago, according to new data released last week.

The figures, which have triggered debate among climate scientists, reveal that from the beginning of 1997 until August 2012, there was no discernible rise in aggregate global temperatures.

This means that the ‘plateau’ or ‘pause’ in global warming has now lasted for about the same time as the previous period when temperatures rose, 1980 to 1996. Before that, temperatures had been stable or declining for about 40 years."

When the world finally wakes up to the magnitude of this sham, will the assholes responsible for this shell game like Al Gore be tried and jailed as they should be?

Nickdfresh

11-23-2012, 06:35 PM

More anecdotal factoids. Looks like I wasn't the only one who experienced a cooler summer, LOL.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2217286/Global-warming-stopped-16-years-ago-reveals-Met-Office-report-quietly-released--chart-prove-it.html?goback=.gde_40850_member_186903589

"The world stopped getting warmer almost 16 years ago, according to new data released last week.

The figures, which have triggered debate among climate scientists, reveal that from the beginning of 1997 until August 2012, there was no discernible rise in aggregate global temperatures.

This means that the ‘plateau’ or ‘pause’ in global warming has now lasted for about the same time as the previous period when temperatures rose, 1980 to 1996. Before that, temperatures had been stable or declining for about 40 years."

When the world finally wakes up to the magnitude of this sham, will the assholes responsible for this shell game like Al Gore be tried and jailed as they should be?

A pile of shit, junk science article that relies on basic cherry-picking of dates misleading facts:

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collections/special/columns/updraft/archive/2012/10/british_met_office_refutes_mis.shtml

http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2012/10/14/met-office-in-the-media-14-october-2012/

The only sham is lying idiot writers for conservative newspapers sucking the cock of the fossil fuel industry...

From the first link:

2) The Daily Mail piece seems to have "cherry picked" a high point of warming in 1997, and a relative low point in 2012 to get a "level" temperature trend.

tbone888

11-23-2012, 07:55 PM

Here's an interesting article possibly explaining the drop of temps from 1940's -70's and increase in the last 40 years or so.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/GISSTemperature/giss_temperature4.php

gbranton

11-23-2012, 08:01 PM

A pile of shit, junk science article that relies on basic cherry-picking of dates misleading facts:

It doesn't agree with your narrative, so you discredit it and shit all over it. SHOCKER!!! :jaw:

How ironic that you call it junk science, that's all the theories of MAN MADE global warming are is junk science. If it weren't junk science it's proponents wouldn't have to use propaganda, misinformation, peer pressure and intimidation to push it forward.

FORD

11-23-2012, 08:13 PM

Angel

11-23-2012, 08:17 PM

David Suzuki is the expert. I just look at the melting polar cap and vanishing glacier... I also pay attention to what the Elders say, particularly the Inuit and Dene. They are connected to the land and know it best...

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Nickdfresh

11-23-2012, 08:24 PM

It doesn't agree with your narrative, so you discredit it and shit all over it. SHOCKER!!! :jaw:

No. It doesn't agree with the narrative of actual science. If you read the refutations of the article by the British counterpart of NOAA and the other link, you'll find the Mail article is written by an unqualified pseudo-journalist fuckwit who intentionally misstated preliminary information and tried to make it seem as he was quoting a finished report...

How ironic that you call it junk science,

You're right, I should have called it a bullshit op-ed devoid of actual science...

...that's all the theories of MAN MADE global warming are is junk science. If it weren't junk science it's proponents wouldn't have to use propaganda, misinformation, peer pressure and intimidation to push it forward.

WTF are you even talking about? Please provide one actual example of the above...

Nickdfresh

11-23-2012, 08:26 PM

Nothing like nice anecdotal factoids to combat actual science. I'm pretty sure when I walk and drive around, the ground seems flat--therefore the Earth must be flat!! But...

The Rest @ Huffy Post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/10/2012-warmest-year-summer-record-breaking_n_1871216.html)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_2012_North_American_heat_wave

http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-blogs/climatechange/2012-likely-to-reach-record-hi-1/38255

http://www.climatecentral.org/blogs/a-breakdown-of-record-summer-temperatures/[/img]

[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/summers-record-heat-drought-point-to-longer-term-climate-issues/2012/08/11/e1e6c68c-e313-11e1-a25e-15067bb31849_story.html

One of the above links shows that those idiots at NASA actually predicted that 2012 would be the hottest year on record. Moron rocket scientists! What do they know! I only trust the word of political lobbyists & politicians with oil company cum all over their faces...

Is this the original post your butthurt about?

So, all these scientists are lying thugs ass-kicking anyone who disagrees with them?
http://fathertheo.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/mad-scientist.jpg

gbranton

11-23-2012, 08:29 PM

Global climate change is a reality. Just the fact that the worst hurricane of the year happened at the end of fucking OCTOBER is proof of that. Hurricanes cannot happen without warm ocean water. And it shouldn't be that warm this late in the season.

LOL, oh shit I forgot about that. You are right again, that has never happened before.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_New_England_hurricane

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1821_Norfolk_and_Long_Island_Hurricane

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1869_Saxby_Gale

Angel

11-24-2012, 02:16 AM

LOL, oh shit I forgot about that. You are right again, that has never happened before.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_New_England_hurricane

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1821_Norfolk_and_Long_Island_Hurricane

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1869_Saxby_Gale

I would bet those were El Nino years. Forget the scientists, ask the polar bears.

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Guitar Shark

11-24-2012, 03:19 AM

It doesn't agree with your narrative, so you discredit it and shit all over it. SHOCKER!!! :jaw:

How ironic that you call it junk science, that's all the theories of MAN MADE global warming are is junk science. If it weren't junk science it's proponents wouldn't have to use propaganda, misinformation, peer pressure and intimidation to push it forward.

So the other 99% of scientists are wrong?

ELVIS

11-24-2012, 02:05 PM

99% ??

Satan

11-24-2012, 02:32 PM

I still find it HELLarious that the bulk of the climate change deniers live in the region of the country that has been most heavily impacted by climate change.

PETE'S BROTHER

11-24-2012, 05:09 PM

my arizona snowman has been evaporating for years

Satan

11-24-2012, 05:14 PM

my arizona snowman has been evaporating for years

What's that?

A saguaro cactus painted white?? http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d025.gif

PETE'S BROTHER

11-24-2012, 05:56 PM

What's that?

A saguaro cactus painted white?? http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d025.gif

http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A2KJkP45ULFQ4hQA5IyJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBlMT Q4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimage s.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Darizona %2Bsnowman%2Bglobe%26fr%3Db1ie7%26fr2%3Dpiv-web%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D3&w=1024&h=768&imgurl=www.alwayssunnygifts.com%2Fuploads%2FDSC012 60.JPG&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alwayssunnygifts.com%2FProdu cts.html&size=91.1+KB&name=%3Cb%3EArizona+Snowman+%3C%2Fb%3EWater+%3Cb%3 EGlobe%3C%2Fb%3E&p=arizona+snowman+globe&oid=427588dbacb92f3c231d7c3dc036d7fc&fr2=piv-web&fr=b1ie7&tt=%253Cb%253EArizona%2BSnowman%2B%253C%252Fb%253E Water%2B%253Cb%253EGlobe%253C%252Fb%253E&b=0&ni=84&no=3&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11dfclfk6&sigb=13aipafaq&sigi=11do3fmbj&.crumb=eM8kQO8J.TZ

Satan

11-24-2012, 06:02 PM

Guess there wasn't enough magic in that snowman's hat.

PETE'S BROTHER

11-24-2012, 06:08 PM

Guess there wasn't enough magic in that snowman's hat.

so the wife and i had "frosty" on tv the other night, nostalgic. then "frosty 2", what a piece of shit. they should have just.....STAYED FROSTY

Satan

11-24-2012, 06:13 PM

Yeah, the Frosty and Rudolph sequels each got dumber and dumber with each one.... and then they finally teamed up for the dumbest of them all, "Christmas in July".

And of course, somebody put the stupid shit on You Tube.....

gbranton

11-24-2012, 10:04 PM

I still find it HELLarious that the bulk of the climate change deniers live in the region of the country that has been most heavily impacted by climate change.

Hell yes, I forgot about all the record high temperatures down here....... fuck, no I didn't.

ALL the records were set during the late 1920's.