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Nickdfresh
11-15-2012, 09:34 AM
Thank God this douche lost!

Mitt Romney Says Obama Won by Giving 'Gifts' to Latino Voters

Published November 15, 2012

Fox News Latino (http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2012/11/15/mitt-romney-says-obama-won-by-giving-gifts-to-immigrant-voters/)

WASHINGTON – Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney is telling top campaign donors that President Barack Obama won re-election because of the "gifts" he had already given to specific voting groups, particularly Latinos, and because of the president's effort to paint Romney as anti-immigrant.

"The president's campaign, if you will, focused on giving targeted groups a big gift," Romney said in a call to donors on Wednesday. "He made a big effort on small things."

Romney said his campaign, in contrast, had been about "big issues for the whole country." He said he faced problems as a candidate because he was "getting beat up" by the Obama campaign and that the debates allowed him to come back.

In the call, Romney didn't acknowledge any major missteps, such as his "47 percent" remarks widely viewed as denigrating nearly half of Americans, his lack of support for the auto bailout, his call for undocumented immigrants to "self-deport," or his change in position on abortion, gun control and other issues. He also didn't address the success or failure of the campaign's strategy of focusing on the economy in the face of some improvement in employment and economic growth during the months leading up to Election Day.

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Obama won the popular vote by about 3.5 million votes, or 3 percent, and won the Electoral College by a wide margin, 332-206 electoral votes. Exit polls conducted for The Associated Press and television networks showed that Obama led Romney by 11 percentage points among women and won better than 7 of 10 Hispanic voters and more than 9 of 10 black voters.

Romney called his loss to Obama a disappointing result that he and his team had not expected, but he said he believed his team had run a superb campaign. He said he was trying to turn his thoughts to the future, "but, frankly, we're still so troubled by the past, it's hard to put together our plans for the future."

Romney's finance team organized the call to donors. A person who listened to Romney's call provided details about it to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because the call was private. The Los Angeles Times first reported Romney's remarks.

Among the "gifts" Romney cited were free health care "in perpetuity," which he said was highly motivational to black and Hispanic voters as well as for voters making $25,000 to $35,000 a year.

Romney also said the administration's promise to offer what he called "amnesty" to the children of illegal immigrants — what he termed "the so-called DREAM Act kids" — helped send Hispanics to the polls for Obama.

Young voters, Romney said, were motivated by the administration's plan for partial forgiveness of college loan interest and being able to remain on their parents' health insurance plans. Young women had an additional incentive to vote for Obama because of free contraception coverage under the president's health care plan, he said.

"I'm very sorry that we didn't win," he told donors. "I know that you expected to win. We expected to win. We were disappointed; we hadn't anticipated it."

Romney said he and his team were discussing how his donor group could remain connected and have an influence on the direction of the Republican Party and even the selection of a future nominee — "which, by the way, will not be me."

Asked about Romney's remarks, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, a potential contender for the GOP nomination in 2016, strongly condemned those in the GOP who classify voters based on income, race or age and said the party cannot concede wide swaths of voters and expect to win elections.

"We have got to stop dividing the American voters," Jindal told reporters in Las Vegas, where the Republican Governors Association was meeting. "We need to go after 100 percent of the vote, not 53 percent. We need to go after every single vote."

Based on reporting by the Associated Press.

Va Beach VH Fan
11-15-2012, 10:04 AM
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ELVIS
11-15-2012, 11:57 AM
He gave them all a teléfonobama™


:elvis:

FORD
11-15-2012, 12:15 PM
Take a clue from Governor Piyush, and get over it, Elvis.

Nitro Express
11-15-2012, 12:38 PM
There just isn't one factor why a candidate loses. Sadly the nature of politics is buying votes. Everyone does it. Mitt failed to rally his base. Too many people on his side didn't get out and vote. The Democrats beat the Republicans at getting their base out to the polls. Also, Mitt never went on television the last part of his campaign. It's not that shows didn't want him on, he refused to go on.

Business people just don't make the best politicians. They live in a world where you surround yourself with a team of people that do things they way you like and you fire the ones that don't work out. In politics you can alienate yourself being a business man and Mitt alienated himself. In business you don't have to worry so much about offending people. You aren't under press scrutiny all the time and you can run your mouth. Most people don't like to hear the truth. Telling the truth in politics or opening addressing problems can be suicide.

Nitro Express
11-15-2012, 12:41 PM
The Democrats and Republicans will continue the blame game slag fest until some act of nature kills them both off.

FORD
11-15-2012, 01:13 PM
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ELVIS
11-15-2012, 01:21 PM
Take a clue from Governor Piyush, and get over it, Elvis.

El Presidente Telefonobahahahama...


:biggrin:

sadaist
11-15-2012, 01:34 PM
He gave them all a teléfonobama™


:elvis:



:lmao:

Good one.

Nitro Express
11-15-2012, 03:09 PM
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The politically connected rich get an exemption no matter who wins. Hell, certain unions and businesses are getting Obamacare exemptions. That's why the rich play both sides. It's called hedging your bets.

DavidLeeNatra
11-15-2012, 06:43 PM
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DavidLeeNatra
11-15-2012, 06:44 PM
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dazzlindino
11-15-2012, 06:50 PM
Guess Romnster should have outsourced his campaign......

DavidLeeNatra
11-15-2012, 06:52 PM
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DavidLeeNatra
11-15-2012, 06:56 PM
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Nitro Express
11-15-2012, 06:57 PM
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Politics has to be the biggest dork fest on the planet.

ELVIS
11-15-2012, 08:21 PM
Looks like a Backstreet Boys reunion...

Satan
11-15-2012, 09:36 PM
Looks like a Backstreet Boys reunion...

More like the Osmond Brothers.

Nitro Express
11-15-2012, 09:38 PM
The Osmonds were a hell of lot more talented than the Backstreet Boys.

Satan
11-15-2012, 09:40 PM
True.... they actually played instruments and wrote their songs.

And a few of them were even listenable.

Nitro Express
11-15-2012, 09:45 PM
True.... they actually played instruments and wrote their songs.

And a few of them were even listenable.

Not only that, they could do stage choreography. Not easy to do.

Seshmeister
11-16-2012, 06:04 AM
The music equivalent of a Nike factory.

Seshmeister
11-16-2012, 07:12 AM
Burns: Ironic, isn’t it, Smithers? This anonymous clan of slack jawed troglodytes has cost me the election, and yet if I were to have them killed, I would be the one to go to jail. That’s democracy for you.


Smithers: You are noble and poetic in defeat, sir.

.....

Terry
11-16-2012, 08:38 AM
Romney probably thought he was going to win. Unlike McCain in the last few weeks of his campaign, where he had resigned himself to the fact that he was probably not going to vanquish his opponent, Romney and many of the conservative strategists thought the end result was going to defy the gravity of the polls leading up to election day.
One can hardly blame them for thinking that the outcome would displace realistic projections. I mean, it certainly wasn't a case of being outspent by the opposition party, and the economy wasn't exactly working in Obama's favor regardless of the slight reported downtick in the October unemployment records.
As mentioned earlier in the thread, it's not really a case of one silver bullet torpedoing Romney. Obama caught some lucky breaks, the demographics of the country have changed in a way that doesn't favor country club Republicanism, Romney's campaign had to go through a prolonged primary (and astonishingly allowed Obama's strategists to lob out charges of Romney as a Gordon Gekko-like corporate raider for months on end with, at best, tepid responses...when any responses were offered at all, that is).
It must be said, however, that while Obama had a decisive victory the margin of it wasn't nearly as close as it had been four years ago. I think in the end perhaps it came down to Romney himself and the blurry images of him that emerged. This came into sharp focus for me on Election night, with the choice of location for the Romney rally in Boston, Massachusetts. Quite odd, considering that Romney spent little time in the campaign even talking about his governorship of that state, complimented by his having held a Massachusetts rally in New Hampshire earlier in the year. Where does one even associate Romney having hailed from? Massachusetts? Utah? Michigan? As far as his record of job creation at Bain went, it was juxtaposed by the all too vivid exposures (despite the relative lack of tax record disclosures) of Romney's money flourishing in various shelters via the Carribean, Switzerland, Germany and the like...which of course begs the question as to how one can think Romney believes in American capitalism if he allows his money (yeah, yeah, "blind trusts"...so much insider bullshit) to be invested outside of the country. On social issues, Romney eventually found himself to be quite comfortable expressing firm conservative opinions that aren't really reflective of where the majority of the country wants to go.

DavidLeeNatra
11-16-2012, 09:03 AM
El Presidente Telefonobahahahama...


:biggrin:

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BigBadBrian
11-16-2012, 09:24 AM
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DavidLeeNatra
11-16-2012, 09:43 AM
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Seshmeister
11-16-2012, 01:36 PM
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Nickdfresh
11-16-2012, 03:58 PM
Romney probably thought he was going to win....

The fact that Romney seems to have been so delusionally sure he was going to win despite a good deal of evidence to the contrary shows what a fucking dipshit he was and why we should all thank God he lost. I'm not saying he didn't have cause to think he had a good chance, but the fireworks thing along is pretty suspect of what an asshat he is.....

FORD
11-16-2012, 04:03 PM
Guess he really believed that Elohim chose him to fulfill that LDS "White Horse Prophecy".

Either that or he believed those Hart Intercivic machines he owns had Ohio in the bag.

Kristy
11-16-2012, 04:26 PM
On social issues, Romney eventually found himself to be quite comfortable expressing firm conservative opinions that aren't really reflective of where the majority of the country wants to go.

By opinions I assume you mean the GOP? Romeny is not a man without conscience, he is man without his own conscience who took every outdated belief system the Rethuglican party has been adhering to for the last 35 years - the glory days of Regan. Romney was a frozen in time candidate who thought (just like his party) that nothing ever changed in white middle class America and that certain minority ethnic groups would never gain power in the electoral arena. Ignorance above all else cost Romeny not only his dream job but his vanity as well.

BITEYOASS
11-16-2012, 05:11 PM
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DavidLeeNatra
11-16-2012, 06:36 PM
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BITEYOASS
11-16-2012, 07:24 PM
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BigBadBrian is the old dwarf from Accept? :biggrin:

Terry
11-16-2012, 09:40 PM
By opinions I assume you mean the GOP? Romeny is not a man without conscience, he is man without his own conscience who took every outdated belief system the Rethuglican party has been adhering to for the last 35 years - the glory days of Regan. Romney was a frozen in time candidate who thought (just like his party) that nothing ever changed in white middle class America and that certain minority ethnic groups would never gain power in the electoral arena. Ignorance above all else cost Romeny not only his dream job but his vanity as well.

Was making a reference to hard right conservative ideological social views: if Romney actually believed them or adopted them to firm up the base, while interesting to ponder, is in some ways beside the point. I would tend to agree with you that a lot of Republican pundits and professionals misread the demographics of America, which is inexplicable considering a census took place not two years ago. Perhaps Romney was, as you say, stuck in a mental time warp where he thought he wouldn't need as many youth/female/minority/educated white voters as he actually did to win.

ELVIS
11-16-2012, 09:42 PM
That's thinking way too much into it...

Romney was a lukewarm candidate at best, period...

Seshmeister
11-16-2012, 09:49 PM
Romney treated the voters like they were complete idiots.

It's untenable to run an extreme right primary campaign and then expect no one to notice what you have been saying for a year as you completely switch around to try and pick up the people in the middle to win.

Running with a super rich candidate in a recession seemed a bit dumb too although I know that most American politicians on both sides are super rich. Coincidence?

I heard that it ended up being over 1 000 000 election TV adverts that were aired in the last year.

You have someone saying they will reduce spending while at the same time pissing away billions on pointless commercials.

Obama is somewhere to the right of Nixon, and they run adverts trying to make out he is the new Lenin...?


Interesting to note that just about every other country polled would said they would have voted overwhelmingly for Obama apart from Afghanistan and Israel.

Terry
11-16-2012, 10:04 PM
That's thinking way too much into it...

Romney was a lukewarm candidate at best, period...

While not intending this to reflect upon you specifically, it is also possible to underthink these things...

You may well be right, although virtually nobody else outside of maybe Huntsman in the primaries had a better shot than Romney did.

BigBadBrian
11-17-2012, 06:30 AM
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Leave it to a Douche to think of douches.

Also, would you, the Haggis-eater, and Adolf Lee Natra try to think up your own shit for once? It's bad enough you can't debate your way out of a paper bag, now you've also got to copy my insults. :beers8:

Nickdfresh
11-17-2012, 09:23 AM
You think of douches?

BITEYOASS
11-17-2012, 09:38 AM
You think of douches?

Yep! BigDoucheBrian thinks of douching.

Whereas BITEYOASS thinks of WINNING!

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/customavatars/avatar175_2.gif = http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5053/5477156526_0d78410c46.jpg


http://youtu.be/Or0Sg4QNu1w

Seriously though, I am WINNING! Mainly because I get paid a shitload of money on my job building the bestselling cars in america, my stocks are kicking ass, and I'm raw-dogging the Mrs. on a regular basis. :bigwink:

BigBadBrian
11-17-2012, 01:33 PM
You make Hyundai's huh?

BITEYOASS
11-18-2012, 01:28 AM
You bet your fuckin' ass I build Hyundai cars!

Kristy
11-18-2012, 02:23 AM
As long as you don't build them in Wisconsin.

jhale667
11-18-2012, 02:32 AM
You bet your fuckin' ass I build Hyundai cars!

So what's the Teahadist stance on Japanese cares made in the USA? ;)

BITEYOASS
11-18-2012, 04:09 AM
So what's the Teahadist stance on Japanese cares made in the USA? ;)

Actually, they are South Korean cars.

BigBadBrian
11-18-2012, 06:11 AM
You bet your fuckin' ass I build Hyundai cars!

Sorry to hear that. :gulp:

DavidLeeNatra
11-18-2012, 06:24 AM
It's bad enough you can't debate your way out of a paper bag...

:lmao:

and because you are so good at it:

http://www.games.bongpower.com/files/pictures/BoredPortal.com_You-win-the-Prize.jpg