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Hardrock69
11-21-2012, 11:48 PM
Well. This is great. An admission by THE POPE that several things Christians have believed for CENTURIES are incorrect.

NO, THIS STORY IS REAL....NOT ONION.COM OR SOME SHIT:

1. He admits Jesus was born several years earlier than thought.
2. He admits Jesus was NOT born in a manger surrounded by animals.
3. He admits Jesus was NOT born in Nazareth.
4. He admits Jesus was NOT born on December 25th.

Now if they would just come clean about all the other crap.

All other versions of Christianity got their theories from the Catholic Church.

So now all the people who want to go on ranting about "Put the Christ back in Christmas" need to understand that Christ was never in "Christmas" to begin with. And if they can't believe the head of the Church who came up with that lie to begin with, it truly DOES prove they believe in fairy tales.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/the-pope/9693576/Jesus-was-born-years-earlier-than-thought-claims-Pope.html


Jesus was born years earlier than thought, claims Pope
The entire Christian calendar is based on a miscalculation, the Pope has declared, as he claims in a new book that Jesus was born several years earlier than commonly believed.

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By Nick Squires, Rome

4:02PM GMT 21 Nov 2012

The 'mistake' was made by a sixth century monk known as Dionysius Exiguus or in English Dennis the Small, the 85-year-old pontiff claims in the book 'Jesus of Nazareth: The Infancy Narratives', published on Wednesday.

"The calculation of the beginning of our calendar – based on the birth of Jesus – was made by Dionysius Exiguus, who made a mistake in his calculations by several years," the Pope writes in the book, which went on sale around the world with an initial print run of a million copies.

"The actual date of Jesus's birth was several years before."

The assertion that the Christian calendar is based on a false premise is not new – many historians believe that Christ was born sometime between 7BC and 2BC.

But the fact that doubts over one of the keystones of Christian tradition have been raised by the leader of the world's one billion Catholics is striking.



Dennis the Small, who was born in Eastern Europe, is credited with being the "inventor" of the modern calendar and the concept of the Anno Domini era.

He drew up the new system in part to distance it from the calendar in use at the time, which was based on the years since the reign of the Roman emperor Diocletian.

The emperor had persecuted Christians, so there was good reason to expunge him from the new dating system in favour of one inspired by the birth of Christ.

The monk's calendar became widely accepted in Europe after it was adopted by the Venerable Bede, the historian-monk, to date the events that he recounted in his Ecclesiastical History of the English People, which he completed in AD 731.

But exactly how Dennis calculated the year of Christ's birth is not clear and the Pope's claim that he made a mistake is a view shared by many scholars.

The Bible does not specify a date for the birth of Christ. The monk instead appears to have based his calculations on vague references to Jesus's age at the start of his ministry and the fact that he was baptised in the reign of the emperor Tiberius.

Christ's birth date is not the only controversy raised by the Pope in his new book – he also said that contrary to the traditional Nativity scene, there were no oxen, donkeys or other animals at Jesus's birth.

He also weighs in on the debate over Christ's birthplace, rejecting arguments by some scholars that he was born in Nazareth rather than Bethlehem.

John Barton, Professor of the Interpretation of the Holy Scripture at Oriel College, Oxford University, said most academics agreed with the Pope that the Christian calendar was wrong and that Jesus was born several years earlier than commonly thought, probably between 6BC and 4BC.

"There is no reference to when he was born in the Bible - all we know is that he was born in the reign of Herod the Great, who died before 1AD," he told The Daily Telegraph. "It's been surmised for a very long time that Jesus was born before 1AD - no one knows for sure."

The idea that Christ was born on Dec 25 also has no basis in historical fact. "We don't even know which season he was born in. The whole idea of celebrating his birth during the darkest part of the year is probably linked to pagan traditions and the winter solstice."

Jesus Christ
11-21-2012, 11:59 PM
Reality is that I was born in the year 3 BC. Somebody hath screwed up the calendars obviously.

As for My actual Birthday, it's September 11.

Yes, the Messiah is being serious.

Ironic, huh? :jesuslol:

ashstralia
11-22-2012, 12:09 AM
'Dennis the Small' :biggrin:

BITEYOASS
11-22-2012, 12:34 AM
In short....there making shit up as they go along.

SunisinuS
11-22-2012, 12:52 AM
Next thing you will say is that she was not even a virgin....

CrAhzy!

:deadhorse:

Jesus Christ
11-22-2012, 12:54 AM
Next thing you will say is that she was not even a virgin....

CrAhzy!

:deadhorse:

Hey! Watch what ye say about My Mom! :mad:

SunisinuS
11-22-2012, 01:30 AM
Uh Jesus....I am on your side....like hmmm the right one.

Don Corleone
11-22-2012, 02:03 AM
To be fair, none of this should come as a shock. It's been accepted for some time now that JC was born around 4 bc (approx) and that the "Christmas Festival" was merely a substitute of the Roman winter festival (a substition which was to made in order to make the new religion of Christianity easier to accept for people throughout the Roman Empire).

Seshmeister
11-22-2012, 05:16 AM
The fact that Herod died in 4BC is a bit of a problem.

He hasn't admitted yet that there was no slaughter of the innocents either since it would have been recorded in contemporary documents.

The whole nativity story is senseless and completely made up of course as I've been posting here for years. A census where the Roman empire decides to get everyone to go to where their great great grandparents lived to register? A census which is again not mentioned in any sources from the time?

Seshmeister
11-22-2012, 05:20 AM
'Dennis the Small' :biggrin:

An early bass player...

envy_me
11-22-2012, 10:44 AM
'Dennis the Small' :biggrin:


He must have been picked on in school.

envy_me
11-22-2012, 10:51 AM
Actually Orthodox (the religion) celebrate christmas on 7th january. Half of my family are Orthodox. Catholics had that same date earlier while they still used Julian calender, which we are still using. God knows when he was born. It isn't even relevant.

WARF
11-22-2012, 11:32 AM
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