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Matt White
12-04-2012, 11:54 AM
Anyone else hunting for relics on the cheap?

I always check for the old Zoom 9000

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/7/2/0/4/4/5/webimg/584695005_tp.jpg

Matt White
12-04-2012, 11:57 AM
How aboot the old Marshall Valvestates from the early 90's? I've seen 'em for dirt cheap lately!

http://medias.audiofanzine.com/images/thumbs3/marshall-valvestate-i-series-8100-valvestate-100-1991-1996-230606.jpg

twonabomber
12-04-2012, 12:38 PM
eBay has really killed the pawn shops around here. No good deals to be found any more. Even the used stuff at GC and Sam Ash isn't that great.

jhale667
12-04-2012, 12:42 PM
I'm looking for a used P-bass...

lesfunk
12-04-2012, 12:46 PM
what's yer budget?

jhale667
12-04-2012, 12:48 PM
what's yer budget?


Didn't really want to spend more than $3-400, really... it's just for recording (and probably testing pickups).

lesfunk
12-04-2012, 12:52 PM
9245Ok, I was wondering because I just bought a P Bass on a whim that I shouldn't have. It's a Factory Special Run Antigua P Bass. Its really nice, Like new and everything but I would need to get $525 out of it. I would ship it for that too,

jhale667
12-04-2012, 01:00 PM
Oh, that's cooooool.. if my HD hadn't crashed necessitating an expensive data recovery, I'd probably be all over it.

ashstralia
12-04-2012, 03:22 PM
I used one of those valvestates for 12-15 years. Ultra reliable kit.

I have a digitech gsp 21 pro that I'll never sell, just because $300 ain't worth more than all the memories. ;)

Coyote
12-04-2012, 05:04 PM
How aboot the old Marshall Valvestates from the early 90's? I've seen 'em for dirt cheap lately!

http://medias.audiofanzine.com/images/thumbs3/marshall-valvestate-i-series-8100-valvestate-100-1991-1996-230606.jpg

I remember those being decent amps...

Hardrock69
12-04-2012, 07:50 PM
My roomie in the 90s had one. Lightweight......12AX7 preamp.....all the tube sound and grind from the preamp...all the benefits of solid state power amp section.

I still prefer all-tube. But that is just me. Valvestate is definitely a step up from solid-state.

indeedido
12-04-2012, 11:01 PM
I had one in the mid 90's too, with the two matching 4x12s. It was a great sounding amp.

Nitro Express
12-04-2012, 11:07 PM
My roomie in the 90s had one. Lightweight......12AX7 preamp.....all the tube sound and grind from the preamp...all the benefits of solid state power amp section.

I still prefer all-tube. But that is just me. Valvestate is definitely a step up from solid-state.

Yeah i have to have a tube power section. What throws me more than anything is I can feel a real tube amp. You have the whole relation of the power tubes, the transformer and the speaker coil going on. The speaker coil is actually part of the power amp circuit. You can feel it when you play. On a solid state rig that whole vibe is gone. It may sound pretty good but something is missing. I mean the low maintenance of solid state equipment has a plus. Tubes are sometimes a pain but you can't get the feel with nothing else.

Matt White
12-05-2012, 08:12 AM
My College roommate had the tiny version...

http://images02.olx.com.pk/ui/9/57/87/1291379063_143695087_1-Marshall-Amp-Heritage-Series-Valvestate-VS-15-40Watt-for-Urgent-sale-Rawalpindi-1291379063.jpg

another Buddy had the bigger badboy...

http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/86/06dae2ceb7e00ceb2ba03400a5ab5945/l.jpg

I now pretty regularly see the 1oow heads for around $300 or less....pretty cheaply you could have a 1oow Marshall

ELVIS
12-05-2012, 08:24 AM
That sucks...

Matt White
12-05-2012, 08:28 AM
Wha???

A little more specific KING.........

ELVIS
12-05-2012, 08:33 AM
They suck for any sort of a distorted sound...

They sound ok clean...

Matt White
12-05-2012, 09:26 AM
They suck for any sort of a distorted sound...

They sound ok clean...

Mmmmmmmm...I remember them having decent distortion......not the "Classic" type.....but for the money its till a deal....more of a PANTERA distorion, as opposed to the "Brown Sound"

ELVIS
12-05-2012, 10:44 AM
Yeah, I agree...

Matt White
12-05-2012, 05:43 PM
Still love mine.............

http://medias.audiofanzine.com/images/normal/rocktron-intellifex-353516.jpg

gonna have to part with it one day

Hardrock69
12-05-2012, 08:16 PM
Yeah Nitro. You said it right. You can feel a tube amp. Can't describe it any better than that. Solid State amps sound like they are fake, lol. Like they are just pretending to be an amp. :hee:

Reverberator
12-09-2012, 06:56 AM
How aboot the old Marshall Valvestates from the early 90's? I've seen 'em for dirt cheap lately!

http://medias.audiofanzine.com/images/thumbs3/marshall-valvestate-i-series-8100-valvestate-100-1991-1996-230606.jpg

I've got one of these Matt , had it for about 5 years , red tolex . I picked it up off ebay for £120 with cab ! I don't think I've switched it on for 2 years.

Reverberator
12-09-2012, 07:05 AM
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u146/reverberator_2007/P290611_2045.jpg

Here it is a while back.

Matt White
12-09-2012, 10:03 AM
Seeing those amps in pawn shops & Used stores makes me think of Yngwie buying those pre-master volume Marshalls back in the late 70's............

Some kid today could have an wall of Marshalls pretty cheap.............

Matt White
01-10-2013, 11:16 AM
I'm now looking for a morpheus droptune pedal...........



I HATE tunning down to #C or sumsuch..............VIOLA!!!

jhale667
01-10-2013, 07:11 PM
I got a D-Tuna for quick changes to drop-C#... pretty kewl. :baaa:



:guitar:

Matt White
02-26-2013, 07:29 PM
I got a D-Tuna for quick changes to drop-C#... pretty kewl. :baaa:



:guitar:

I both LARVE and HATE the d-tuna......


Works like a charm on my Bumblestein® guitar...WHICH I installed meself!

On my Wolfgang??? I can't get that fucker to work! No matter what I do!!!


FAK!!!!

jhale667
02-26-2013, 07:34 PM
I both LARVE and HATE the d-tuna......


Works like a charm on my Bumblestein® guitar...WHICH I installed meself!

On my Wolfgang??? I can't get that fucker to work! No matter what I do!!!


FAK!!!!

Weird...why not? Is the bridge floating per chance? If so, you need to block it...they are not floating trem friendly unfortunately.



:guitar:

Matt White
02-26-2013, 07:40 PM
Weird...why not? Is the bridge floating per chance? If so, you need to block it...they are not floating trem friendly unfortunately.



:guitar:

Noooooooooooo! Totally stock pat pending (early stock) Peavey Wolfgang

bridge sits flush to the body....

tiny set screw on d-tuna itself doesnt seem to have any affect........

Tune 6th string to D...lock floyd....push in D-tuna...E string sharp....drop E string to pitch, engage D-tuna....D now sharp....or flat....Yet, the D-tuna I installed myself NEVER fails me....


DAMN YOU PEAVEY!!!

Seshmeister
02-26-2013, 07:47 PM
How aboot the old Marshall Valvestates from the early 90's? I've seen 'em for dirt cheap lately!


I was using one last weekend at a gig as you had to use the club backline.

It was ok I guess but not ideal, I've used worse though.

The trick with them is to keep the contour as low as you can still get a distorted enough sound at, 10 o'clock or so, they get very angry wasp if you try and push it.

I ended up boosting it with my own MXR distortion pedal which I try not to do these days.

Matt White
02-26-2013, 07:58 PM
I was using one last weekend at a gig as you had to use the club backline.

It was ok I guess but not ideal, I've used worse though.

The trick with them is to keep the contour as low as you can still get a distorted enough sound at, 10 o'clock or so, they get very angry wasp if you try and push it.

I ended up boosting it with my own MXR distortion pedal which I try not to do these days.

I just remember them from the "Glory Days" of the early 90's.....my college roomy had one, as well as another dude we jammed with.......they both loved 'em

And now I see 'em dirt cheap in used places....a good way for a kid to get a bit of the MARSHALL vibe without selling a kidney!

jhale667
02-26-2013, 08:17 PM
Noooooooooooo! Totally stock pat pending (early stock) Peavey Wolfgang

bridge sits flush to the body....

tiny set screw on d-tuna itself doesnt seem to have any affect........

Tune 6th string to D...lock floyd....push in D-tuna...E string sharp....drop E string to pitch, engage D-tuna....D now sharp....or flat....Yet, the D-tuna I installed myself NEVER fails me....


DAMN YOU PEAVEY!!!


Yeah, think you answered your own question at the end of your post... :biggrin: Lemme ask you this: Does the set screw raise or lower the pitch AT ALL when in use? Did it come with an extra string-lock bolt in the case when you bought it? Sounds like you may need to change it out to the longer one they're supposed to come with? Hit up Adam at FU/D-Tuna, he can either talk you through fixing it or let you know what you need to do (or are missing)...

Matt White
02-26-2013, 08:31 PM
Yeah, think you answered your own question at the end of your post... :biggrin: Lemme ask you this: Does the set screw raise or lower the pitch AT ALL when in use? Did it come with an extra string-lock bolt in the case when you bought it? Sounds like you may need to change it out to the longer one they're supposed to come with? Hit up Adam at FU/D-Tuna, he can either talk you through fixing it or let you know what you need to do (or are missing)...

HA!!! I know how its supposed to work! 8) Wow...I bought that thing so long ago...I might have to get some spare parts!

Yeah...that tiny set screw in the d-tuna might have just given up the ghost....sure they don't sell spare parts...might need to grab another d-tuna......

Do love 'em...GENIUS idea!

ZahZoo
02-27-2013, 10:25 AM
Mmmmmmmm...I remember them having decent distortion......not the "Classic" type.....but for the money its till a deal....more of a PANTERA distorion, as opposed to the "Brown Sound"

I've posted this before somewhere here I think... I've got a AVT-50 that I bought for my son off e-bay several years ago and he lost interest... But at the time I was posting on the old Plexi-Palace board and was inquiriung about the Marshall 12AX7 tube that came in these things. They are some cheap Chinese made tube from what I recall.

One of the guys offered to sell me a vintage 12AX7 for $10 to throw into the Marshall and see if it made any difference. He sent me a 1942 Knight Mullard 12AX7 that was tested in spec plus threw in a 1944 12AT7 to see what that would do in the pre-amp section.

Surprisingly... that old Mullard tube cleaned and tightened up the dirty channel very nicely and even brought out some nice harmonic ring on clean. It went from a buzzy hybrid distortion to a tight and solid crunch. The 12AT7 really brought out the mids and highs but I didn't like the way it muddied up the low end.

Still have it today and use it for some dirty stuff or slightly dirty for blues work.

Matt White
02-27-2013, 08:55 PM
speaking of USED GEAR....just got a LUNA LW ASH Acoustic today...for my birthday...from my brother!!! :rocks:

http://www.mt-ac.com/moddb/assets/ebay/luna/wlash2.jpg

stock photo.....

I'll put up one of mine tomorrow.........

ODShowtime
02-27-2013, 09:04 PM
but I never had a good cab for it. It was loud as hell though which I appreciated.

I also had the practice amp, that thing was ok.

jhale667
02-27-2013, 11:19 PM
speaking of USED GEAR....just got a LUNA LW ASH Acoustic today...for my birthday...from my brother!!!

Kewl!!






My sister never buys me guitars... :( lol

ashstralia
02-28-2013, 04:08 AM
but I never had a good cab for it. It was loud as hell though which I appreciated.

I also had the practice amp, that thing was ok.

i ran my v100 head through a marshall slant cab, and the smaller valvestate one together. it did sound massive, but like sesh said (and the handbook clearly states; if you'll pardon the pun) the contour control is very interactive with all the other controls... i did upgrade the 12ax7 too, to a ruby or gt.. can't remember.

i'd own another one in a heartbeat. light, powerful, great value for $. the tone's all in your hands anyway, dudes!!!

:rockit:

ODShowtime
03-01-2013, 05:58 AM
i ran my v100 head through a marshall slant cab, and the smaller valvestate one together. it did sound massive, but like sesh said (and the handbook clearly states; if you'll pardon the pun) the contour control is very interactive with all the other controls... i did upgrade the 12ax7 too, to a ruby or gt.. can't remember.

i'd own another one in a heartbeat. light, powerful, great value for $. the tone's all in your hands anyway, dudes!!!

:rockit:


I have a line 6 now which is basically one decade better. I'd like a tube amp or a dozen but I don't have the time or the money for all of that. I wouldn't know how to fix one if it blew up.

That thing is loud as sin. Go ahead and piss me off neighbors. I will just keep bending the e string and hitting the a in that weird way that makes you want to puke, and do it so loudly that you will feel it in your dreams. Go ahead and fuck with me.

Matt White
03-04-2013, 05:42 PM
My latest "Used" score???

My Brother (Yeah, he FUCKING ROCKS!!!) bought me this LUNA Woodland Quilted Ash Acoustic/electric 6 string!


DIG that Quilted Ash!!!

http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/118/1bb90e74469645ecabe164801432cf14/l.jpg

http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/55/dc31739e263247f3ade35e246446c1ab/l.jpg

http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/60/ba438496afee48ac84aab135327329d8/l.jpg