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ELVIS
03-09-2013, 02:05 AM
Kurt Nimmo (http://www.prisonplanet.com/splc-letter-to-holder-and-napolitano-patriot-“hate”-groups-pose-domestic-terror-threat.html)

The Southern Poverty Law Center sent a letter earlier this week to Attorney General Eric Holder and Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano urging the government to establish a task force to investigate the supposed domestic terror threat posed by the likes of Alex Jones, We Are Change, Oath Keepers, the Constitution Party, the Tyranny Response Team and thousands of other Americans outside of the orbit of the establishment.

Chris Matthews continues the corporate media attack on the patriot movement. In the above video, Brian Levin, director of the Center for the Study of Hate & Extremism, includes Alex Jones in a hysterical litany of dangerous and “nutty” people engaged in free speech.

The letter sent by the president and CEO of the SPLC, J. Richard Cohen, begins by reminding Holder and Napolitano that the organization “wrote Attorney General Janet Reno about the growing threat of domestic terrorism” prior to the Oklahoma City bombing in October, 1994.

“Today, we write to express similar concerns. In the last four years, we have seen a tremendous increase in the number of conspiracy-minded, antigovernment groups as well as in the number of domestic terrorist plots.” Today’s “ominous threats,” Cohen warns, come from citizens concerned about federal government attacks on the Second Amendment. “Because of the looming dangers, we urge you to establish an interagency task force to assess the adequacy of the resources devoted to responding to the growing threat of non-Islamic domestic terrorism.”

Utilizing the standard SPLC modus operandi and fear tactics, Cohen conflates a small number of racist white supremacist groups with the larger and more diverse patriot community. He also characterizes growing concern on the part of millions of Americans in response to egregious violations of the Constituion as dangerous and deems the federal government response to this “domestic terror” threat as entirely insufficient. “In light of these questions and the disturbing trends we have described in this letter, we believe it is time to take a fresh look at the issue,” he concludes.

It is hardly surprising the SPLC has decided to exploit the growing and diverse movement opposed to a raft of recently proposed unconstitutional firearms laws and label the movement extremist and akin to domestic terrorism. It is also hardly surprising that MSNBC’s Chris Matthews would have SPLC spokesman Mark Potok on his increasingly irrelevant cable television show just as Congress begins work on a number of anti-Second Amendment bills. SPLC’s domestic terror angle and timing feed right into the larger anti-Second Amendment narrative spun by the establishment media.

The Department of Homeland Security most certainly has an overriding obsession in exaggerating and demonizing political activism the establishment regards as dangerous. As revealed in its “rightwing extremism” document leaked in 2009, the DHS is drinking the SPLC kool aid. It considers returning veterans, Second Amendment advocates, and anti-immigration activists on par with white supremacists and other ultra-fringe groups (many, as we have noted, infiltrated by the FBI). The establishment attack on opposition political activists cannot succeed without this necessary process of demonization and political ostracism hyped by its media.

It remains to be seen if the effort will be successful. Following extensive coverage on the DHS “Rightwing Extremism” document eventually covered by the mainstream media, elements within the Republican party criticized Napolitano and the DHS, a reaction that resulted in an embarrassing backtrack by the agency. Because of this experience, the DHS may be reluctant to heed the SPLC call to wage a domestic war on terrorism against political groups that do not pose a threat and are wholly within their rights under the First Amendment.

Finally, the SPLC’s theatrical use of the Oklahoma City bombing is interesting considering the organization’s connection with that terrorist event. In 2004, a declassified FBI memo obtained by an Oklahoma newspaper revealed the existence of a Southern Poverty Law Center informant connected to the Elohim City operation. “References to an informant working for the SPLC at Elohim City on the eve of the Oklahoma City bombing raises serious questions as to what the SPLC might know about McVeigh’s activities during the final hours before the fuse was lit in Oklahoma City – but which the SPLC has failed to disclose publicly,” the newspaper reported.

Asked about his organization’s role in the terror attack, Morris Dees, co-founder and chief trial counsel for the SPLC, told the media: “If I told you what we were doing there, I would have to kill you.”



:mad2:

FORD
03-09-2013, 02:51 AM
So you're denying the existence of terrorists in this country?

Well then let me remind you......

http://www.murderpedia.org/male.M/images/m/mcveigh/mcveigh104.jpg

http://www.murderpedia.org/male.M/images/m/mcveigh/nichols001.jpg

http://msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/050405/050405_rudolph_vmed_8p.grid-4x2.jpg

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/files/2012/03/Dick-Cheney.jpg

http://coat.ncf.ca/our_magazine/links/53/bush_sr_jr.JPG

http://fedupwithfaith.blog.com/files/2012/04/scottroeder.jpg

Just a few examples from recent years......

ELVIS
03-09-2013, 03:27 AM
FORD, it's people like you and me that they're looking to label as domestic terrorists...

FORD
03-09-2013, 04:07 AM
The BCE and their supporters labeled me a "terrorist" for protesting their bullshit war. I'm used to it.

Nitro Express
03-09-2013, 04:10 AM
The BCE and their supporters labeled me a "terrorist" for protesting their bullshit war. I'm used to it.

I prefer to pay cash and have over five days of food. That's puts me on the current list of potential terrorists. I usually don't have stains on my clothes. If I do it means I had a good time. I have all my fingers and toes. I haven't Gerry Garciaed myself yet.

FORD
03-09-2013, 04:21 AM
I could never play guitar with 10 fingers, so it amazes me that Jerry Garcia or Phil Keaggy could do so with 9.

My grandpa chopped half of a finger off when he was a kid, but he never played guitar, or any other instrument as far as I know.

ELVIS
03-09-2013, 04:25 AM
Why did he chop off his finger ??

Nitro Express
03-09-2013, 04:37 AM
This whole domestic terrorist thing is inventing another boogie man more than anything based in reality. I notice they are going to the extra effort to slag veterans. It's the classic Obama administration slag the image of people and turn public opinion against them. Well they are the ones saying they can kill us without a fair trial and arming themselves to the teeth with ammo the military is forbidden to use. They are just trying to put the attention on someone else besides them. The mass majority of the people they are pointing the finger at and labeling as dangerous aren't going to do anything unless the government fucks with them first. Maybe if the government stopped taking constitutional rights away and behaved itself, it wouldn't have to worry about the citizens so much.

envy_me
03-09-2013, 04:40 AM
I used to work with a woman whose husband lost a finger. I asked him how it felt not having a finger. He said it still itches sometimes as if the finger was still there.
I think I am the only one who asked him straight out about it.

ELVIS
03-09-2013, 04:54 AM
I used to work with a woman whose husband lost a finger. I asked him how it felt not having a finger. He said it still itches sometimes as if the finger was still there.
I think I am the only one who asked him straight out about it.

I would have asked him if he tried to find it...

envy_me
03-09-2013, 05:07 AM
I've seen somewhere that they can attach persons toe to the finger. So that the toe becomes the missing finger. Fascinating.

Nitro Express
03-09-2013, 05:10 AM
I used to work with a woman whose husband lost a finger. I asked him how it felt not having a finger. He said it still itches sometimes as if the finger was still there.
I think I am the only one who asked him straight out about it.

I was on a basketball court when some guy jumped up and swatted the net hanging from the hoop for some reason and the class ring on his hand got stuck in the net and when he came down it ripped his finger out. Man did he scream and blood was everywhere. One kid ran to get help and we used his shirt to wrap his hand with. If you use a persons own clothes it's better because it has their own germs on them and reduces the chance of infection. His finger was still up in the net. Someone got some ice and a ladder and put his finger in ice thinking it might be saved and reattached. I don't know if they were able to do that. It was pretty awful to see.

Nowdays you could pour Quick Clot and stop the bleeding. Better than a wadded up T Shirt.

envy_me
03-09-2013, 05:19 AM
I was on a basketball court when some guy jumped up and swatted the net hanging from the hoop for some reason and the class ring on his hand got stuck in the net and when he came down it ripped his finger out. Man did he scream and blood was everywhere. One kid ran to get help and we used his shirt to wrap his hand with. If you use a persons own clothes it's better because it has their own germs on them and reduces the chance of infection. His finger was still up in the net. Someone got some ice and a ladder and put his finger in ice thinking it might be saved and reattached. I don't know if they were able to do that. It was pretty awful to see.

Nowdays you could pour Quick Clot and stop the bleeding. Better than a wadded up T Shirt.



Weren't you traumatized from seeing that?

ELVIS
03-09-2013, 05:36 AM
I've seen somewhere that they can attach persons toe to the finger. So that the toe becomes the missing finger. Fascinating.

That's exactly what happened to Dickforbrains...

envy_me
03-09-2013, 05:46 AM
That's exactly what happened to Dickforbrains...

This nicknaming has gone out of hand. I have NO idea who you're talking about.

ELVIS
03-09-2013, 06:17 AM
No fucking way ??

envy_me
03-09-2013, 06:46 AM
No fucking way ??

DAMN, I thanked you by mistake. It wasn't on purpose.

Now you got me curious, who is Dickforbrains?

Nickdfresh
03-09-2013, 09:33 AM
This nicknaming has gone out of hand. I have NO idea who you're talking about.

Elvis can't stop thinking about my cock...

But El-fuckit is struggling through his copy of "The Turner Diaries" and masturbating to McViegh's picture...

envy_me
03-09-2013, 09:46 AM
Elvis can't stop thinking about my cock...

But El-fuckit is struggling through his copy of "The Turner Diaries" and masturbating to McViegh's picture...


Oh, he meant you?? So, your penis is causing all this trouble :biggrin:

envy_me
03-09-2013, 09:48 AM
That's exactly what happened to Dickforbrains...


You meant Nick? That doesn't even make sense.

I don't agree. Nick is one of my favorite people here.

Nickdfresh
03-09-2013, 10:08 AM
Oh, he meant you?? So, your penis is causing all this trouble :biggrin:

It causes me a lot of troubles... ;)

Actually, Elvis is just a racist fuckhead who is basically sympathetic to mindless anti-government terrorism, as long as its white people doing it under the guise of some "militia" spouting irrational, illogical and hollow rhetoric....

Nickdfresh
03-09-2013, 10:14 AM
This is what "patriots" like Elvis believe in:

http://bennernotes.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/okcity.jpg

envy_me
03-09-2013, 10:23 AM
It causes me a lot of troubles... ;)

Actually, Elvis is just a racist fuckhead who is basically sympathetic to mindless anti-government terrorism, as long as its white people doing it under the guise of some "militia" spouting irrational, illogical and hollow rhetoric....

:lmao:

Yeah, Elvis has special opinions. But I can accept that, as long as he doesn't have any power to impact society, he can think what he wants. I do respect that he stands behind his opinions even though everybody is against him.

But yeah, I don't agree with him on any issue.

ELVIS
03-09-2013, 10:28 AM
Oklahoma City was staged and it's been proven...

Look it up...

Nickdfresh
03-09-2013, 10:42 AM
Oklahoma City was staged and it's been proven...

Look it up...

Ha ha! You're such a dumb cunt, it's not even funny. I almost wish this were just a troll as it is scary that people like you are in the gene pool...

FORD
03-09-2013, 12:18 PM
Why did he chop off his finger ??

Wood chopping accident.

clarathecarrot
03-09-2013, 01:17 PM
Skip down in the smaller type to sentence #10.


http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?67702-ClaraLikesMen&p=1743232&viewfull=1#post1743232


Originally Posted by clarathecarrot
What you failed to notice was the words I wrote could easily be used against me in a court of law.As terrorist attack against the American government. In the past perhaps by some king in a monarchy... and even more so, under the Patriot Act and the additions Obama added augmenting out 1st ammendment rights.....goodbye to that as of 2012.

Nitro Express
03-09-2013, 04:01 PM
DAMN, I thanked you by mistake. It wasn't on purpose.

Now you got me curious, who is Dickforbrains?

Its the truth. Any man that says he doesn't think with his dick is a lying motherfucker.

Nitro Express
03-09-2013, 04:36 PM
Each political party has it's faction that wants to grab power at all costs. The ends justify the means. The only difference is the methods used and the ideology. The current administration has what has been called "The Progressive" ideology. They could care less about how many people they hurt as long as the end objective is met. They seem to be more forward about punishing their political enemies than even the Bush administration has been. The only question is, are they actually nuts enough to use deadly force against their enemies or do they just think if they spook us enough we will buckle? You know the old crucify the first few we catch and the others will fall into line like that EPA guy said. All I can say is we have gotten a good taste of what the tyranny flavor is like on both sides of the isle and it all tastes like shit.


As a result of the economic collapse being orchestrated by the liberal left, which they need to happen in order to gain full control of all private industries (after all, as Rahm Emanuel said, you can't let a crisis go to waste), the State of Texas is threatening to secede. The warfare against the founding principles of this nation by the democrats has led law enforcement to come down on people for being supporters of the United States Constitution. Wealthy Americans are leaving the country and renouncing their citizenship in record numbers because of the liberal democrat policies on taxation and regulation. Under the pressure of bigger government, State governors, even ones claiming to be conservative, are caving in and falling in line as Obama demands - such as in the case of Ohio Governor Kasich regarding Obamacare. We have a liberal President in Obama that believes he can put out a kill order on Americans with drones, and all he has to do is suspect that they are terrorists. . . and his definition of terrorism will shift, and will include in the long run even his political enemies. Remember, domestic terrorists are defined as being members of groups that are considered by the left to be "anti-government," like veterans, the TEA Party, and constitutionalists.

FORD
03-09-2013, 05:08 PM
Each political party has it's faction that wants to grab power at all costs. The ends justify the means. The only difference is the methods used and the ideology. The current administration has what has been called "The Progressive" ideology.

The current administration is Republican in everything but name.

Barack Obama gives great Progressive speeches, but that's the only thing he does that is remotely progressive.

And fuck this false equivalency bullshit. Liberals want to grab power at all costs??


Really now?? Tell me when Bernie Sanders, Dennis Kucinich, Rocky Anderson, and Jill Stein are plotting a coup to overthrow the government and packing the Supreme Court with their puppets to make sure it passes for "legal". I'll be sure to be there so I can get a cabinet position.

Until then, spare me the repetition of FAUX talking points.

Nitro Express
03-09-2013, 05:37 PM
The Democratic Party ended when John F. Kennedy died and the Republican Party ended when Eisenhower warned us about the military industrial complex. Something had infiltrated the federal government. Eisenhower warned us and Kennedy tried to do something about it and got killed for trying. Once Lyndon Johnson stepped in the country has never been the same. Both parties had opportunistic egomaniacs being played off of each other with old established and connected money behind them.

Right now the situation is the Republican party is in a state of chaos because the Bush faction lost power when they couldn't get their man Mitt Romeny elected and they have enemies who have pushed them to the side. Now you have the grass roots part fighting the establishment side. You can see it in John McCain's reaction to Rand Paul. Then it's also clear the Republican establishment reluctantly works with Obama.

The Obama Administration pretty much work for George Sorros and Zibignew Brzenski. Pretty much a product of the Rockefeller sponsored University of Chicago liberal talent pool. Chicago has been the long-term base of operations for that kind of ilk.

It's all about using crises fabricated and non-fabricated and the resulting fear and emotion to push an agenda forward. The agenda is less power for the average person and more power for the elite. Of course the elite are in different factions and fight each other over who gets what. Also, the old guard have made enemies in Asia and with the emerging economies there they no longer throw their weight around the world the way they used to. So there is that fight and in the US we have a fight going on regarding keeping our traditional constitutional values or losing them to some hollow socialistic promises. On top of that you have the so called republicans fighting each other while the extreme left are making a mad dash to the endzone but are waking people up to the fact they don't believe in any due process and feel they can kill anyone they wish in the process. In other words, people are seeing the dirt now and are going holy shit!

The left you still believe in died in the early 1960's. The true American left that was replaced with the more socialist oligarch sponsored progressive left that has more of a Rothschilds flavor than Kennedy. It certainly isn't American. The American left was in the early process of taking down the Federal Reserve Bank and getting us out of Vietnam. The progressive left started the Vietnam war and put the Federal Reserve back in control of our money. Obviously it was ran by someone who had full interest in making money off that war and was involved with the Federal Reserve banking system.

Nitro Express
03-09-2013, 05:49 PM
Tell me when Bernie Sanders, Dennis Kucinich, Rocky Anderson, and Jill Stein are plotting a coup to overthrow the government

They can't. They have no power. Voices in the wilderness. Obama has the oligarchs backing him and he has the media and the entertainment industry fully behind him. Amazing what a fabricated rock star can do isn't it?