Right Wing Extremists are More of a Threat than "Al Qaeda"

[FORD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSdqtfhrNms

[cadaverdog]

Conspiracy theorists more dangerous than Al Qaeda.

[ELVIS]

And FORD falls for it...

[Satan]

So even when confronted with the FACTS of right wing extremist racist gun nuts murdering government officials in cold blood, you still think Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy are bigger threats to this country?

[Satan]

Sockfucking perverts are more dangerous than Al Qaeda.

Well of course, because at least one sockfucking pervert actually EXISTS. :sockfucker:

[Nickdfresh]

Well of course, because at least one sockfucking pervert actually EXISTS. :sockfucker:

He's a sock-terrorist!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DTCGHmzdJXg/TkluF3SKN5I/AAAAAAAACnY/zcVYCnDzlfg/s1600/sock+puppet+.jpg
"Oh gawd! No! Not again!"

[jacksmar]

http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/gabby-giffords-hospital.jpg

Keep the bullshit coming.

Ted Kennedy would still fuck it!!

http://americandinosaur.mu.nu/archives/ted_kennedy_2006-01-04.jpg

[jacksmar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YIOTr1PRWA

Why would anyone need a mag bigger than 5 bullets?

[ELVIS]

Raid should make some apartment size glue traps to deal with that kind of mess...

[Satan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc9e338ZqaM

[Satan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDmOGG8fQ2I

[Satan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hriakOH9gwE

[ELVIS]

Why are you trying to perpetuate the propaganda, FORD ??

[Satan]

Why are you trying to perpetuate the propaganda, FORD ??

Why are you trying to deny the fact that racist terrorist fucks are more of a danger to your country than some mythical non existent Muslim super-army ever was?

[ELVIS]

It's the same bullshit propaganda, FORD...

[Satan]

It's the same bullshit propaganda, FORD...

No it's not....

You have documented threats, actual suspects from known terrorist groups, and actual dead bodies in this case.

It's not at all the same as Skittles-colored "terra alerts", fictional world wide franchise operations and staged "terra" operations.

[ELVIS]

Yes it is, exactly the same...

They jump on a couple isolated incidents and/or stage one, feed it to people like you and watch you perpetuate it...

Don't you see the shift from Islam in the media to domestic terrorists ??

Of course you do, but it feeds your liberal agenda to jump on the conservative gun owner hate bandwagon...


:elvis:

[jacksmar]

No it's not....

You have documented threats, actual suspects from known terrorist groups, and actual dead bodies in this case.

It's not at all the same as Skittles-colored "terra alerts", fictional world wide franchise operations and staged "terra" operations.


The mother fucking racist, as usual, lies again.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4F8ob9nlfY

Keep trying liar. You are a liar.

[FORD]

Strange how some people get so defensive when you call out white supremacists.....

Why is that? :meinsmiley:

http://www.profilebrand.com/funny-pictures/category/demotivational/89_irony-kkk.gif

[jacksmar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAX313ddsnI

[Nickdfresh]

jackkkksmar keeps drawing from his Storm front portfolio of extreme incidents to demonize minorities...

[ELVIS]

Thanks for clearing that up, doucheformouth...

[Zing!]

Keep trying liar. You are a liar.

I imagine him sounding like Potato Head in Toy Story while saying this.

[Nickdfresh]

Thanks for clearing that up, doucheformouth...

You're welcome, Elvaginais...

Now run along and fuck your sister...

[ELVIS]

You won't tell me where you buried her...

[FORD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh-RGcqHnH4

[jacksmar]

http://www.kctv5.com/story/21807435/two-men-charged-in-deadly-kc-home-invasion-robbery

Two men charged in UMKC student's murder

http://www.kctv5.com/story/21807435/two-men-charged-in-deadly-kc-home-invasion-robbery?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=8714473

http://kctv.images.worldnow.com/images/21807435_BG2.jpg

[jacksmar]

New Orleans radio host beaten and robbed in the CBD

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2013/03/nopd_searching_for_4_men_wante.html

http://imgick.nola.com/home/nola-media/width748/img/crime_impact/photo/cbd-robbery-suspectjpg-f202c2edac9db43a.jpg

New Orleans police are searching for four men who robbed a local radio host as he was on his way to work in the Central Business District on Wednesday morning. Scott Paisant, host of WWL Radio's 'The Scoot Show' said he was on his way to work around 3:50 a.m. when he was assaulted and robbed by the men.

Paisant told police that he was walking in the 600 block of Gravier Street when he was approached by four men who had been walking on the other side of the street.

Paisant told police that one of the men blocked his path and began feeling his pockets. Paisant tried walking away but the man pushed him to the ground, causing him to fall into the street.

[Nickdfresh]

You won't tell me where you buried her...

She's underneath a pile of disinfectant...

[Nickdfresh]

New Orleans radio host beaten and robbed in the CBD
...

Paisant told police that one of the men blocked his path and began feeling his pockets. Paisant tried walking away but the man pushed him to the ground, causing him to fall into the street.

Dude, are you really this stupid? Your response to a thread about ultra-rightists and neonazis is to post pictures of alleged black criminals? How do you feel about Jewish bankers and Hollywood? LOL

[jacksmar]

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/03/25/three-tulsa-teens-arrested-for-murder-of-arlington-man/

Three Tulsa Teens Arrested For Murder Of Arlington Man

FORT WORTH (CBS 11 NEWS) - Three Tulsa teenagers have been arrested and charged with gunning down an Arlington man early Saturday morning.

All three suspects are 17-years old and were booked at the Tulsa County Jail on Monday.

Police say Jermaine Savory, Damian Anderson and Frankie Jackson admitted they were driving around looking for someone to rob when they saw 53-year-old Robert Horton, a truck driver who was delivering produce to a pizza restaurant. Police believe the teens tried to Robert Horton, then shot him in the chest.http://cbsdallas.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/jermaine-savory.jpg?w=420&h=315
http://cbsdallas.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/damian-anderson.jpg?w=420&h=315
http://cbsdallas.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/frankie-jackson.jpg?w=420&h=315

[jacksmar]

http://www.wtae.com/news/local/allegheny/Knife-wielding-man-stabs-teenager-2-others-inside-East-Liberty-Target/-/10927008/19463662/-/format/rsss_2.0/-/t409p9z/-/index.html

PITTSBURGH —Police said three people -- including a 16-year-old girl who was shopping with her family -- were stabbed inside the East Liberty Target store by a homeless man who was wanted by the U.S. Marshals Service for an unspecified probation violation.

http://www.wtae.com/image/view/-/19470134/highRes/2/-/maxh/220/maxw/220/-/atakpqz/-/Leon-Raymond-Walls.jpg?format=rsss_2.0

[jacksmar]

Dude, are you really this stupid? Your response to a thread about ultra-rightists and neonazis is to post pictures of alleged black criminals? How do you feel about Jewish bankers and Hollywood? LOL

Alleged? :lmao:

Don't try to get a sense of humor after your continued insults, asshole.

That shit I posted is from last fucking month. Skin heads are racist chicken shits that hide behind the premise of state sponsored socialism.

AL-Qaeda is the same fucking thing sponsored by the Muslim religion.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=069RiGTxG0Q

I only saw American heros.

[ELVIS]

jacks, it's the white Christian conservative gun owners that are bad...

You should focus more on the problem and stop it with the nasty racism...


:biggrin:

[jacksmar]

Next post:

Black Panthers

[jacksmar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6przuR7ITfY

[Satan]

Leave Alan out of this, you racist twat.

[jhale667]

The mother fucking racist is me.



We know, scumbag. :dafinger:

[jacksmar]

I'm a racist.

Don't be so tough on yourself.:luck:

Think of it like this. dicknobrains lives in his affluent Buffalo neighborhood. And just like he asked: "How do you feel about Jewish bankers and Hollywood?":umm:

dicknobrains asked this because in his affluent Buffalo neighborhood, Jewish bankers are constantly robbing convenience stores.:rofl:

So let me explain your racist attitude and how to get over it, Jhale.:lmao:

You can have a black author (Walter Williams) of astounding skill or a black serial rapist. You can have a white fine artist of astounding skill ( Monet) or a white crystal meth junkie. :soapbox:

I would suggest reading The Bell Curve to illustrate.:headlights:

In both cases, a leftist commie lib piece of shit believes there are no in between people. Everyday people.:bigburp:

To illustrate for you with something that know and do well, here is a point of fact: Every rock guitar player owes the entire act to Chuck Berry.:jammin:

Don't assume to know me and don't misquote me. It really makes you look smaller.:finger33:

[ELVIS]

uhh h uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh hu hu hu...

[jacksmar]

uhh h uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh hu hu hu...

It's pretty funny. The socialist left forgets Bill Ayers, WTC 1995, the underpants bomber, the Black Panthers, gabby's shooter, Colin Ferguson, Earth Liberation Front, and 19 AL-Qaeda Muslims. Pretty short sighted.

Maybe I missed how funny this is:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLrTdtOAgo4


Those damn Righter Wingers.

[jhale667]

The socialist left...

:lmao: Not to be cuntfused with the racist conservatard right. Idiot.

[FORD]

It's pretty funny. The socialist left forgets Bill Ayers, WTC 1995, the underpants bomber, the Black Panthers, gabby's shooter, Colin Ferguson, Earth Liberation Front, and 19 AL-Qaeda Muslims. Pretty short sighted.


Those damn Righter Wingers.

Well, most of them WERE right wingers....

Maybe not Bill Ayers and the Black Panthers but the rest of your list...

Tim McVeigh & Terry Nichols - right wing militia nuts.

Underpants bomber (if you believe that shit was real) - right wing Muslim fanatic.

Jered Laughner - right wing lunatic gun nut.

Colin Ferguson - Probably not political at all, but he grew up the son of a wealthy big pharma guy, so he wasn't likely a liberal of any sort.

Earth Liberation Front - CIA front group. Doesn't actually exist.

The 19 cave dwelling imbeciles with box knives - IF they ever existed at all, they were extremist right wing Muslims.


Jerksmear strikes out again.

[jhale667]

Jerksmear strikes out again.

The FAIL is strong with Jerky.

[Warham]

This thread is ridiculous.

[FORD]

This thread is ridiculous.

Well, it started out good, but then Jerksmear crapped all over it. :(

[Warham]

I find the premise ridiculous as well.

[jacksmar]

Well, it started out good, but then Jerksmear crapped all over it. :(

For those that don't understand TARD's post: No one should have dared disagree with the premise.

Strikeout? :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::l mao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

Ubama voter at a baseball game


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdQyU9eHGVE

[Nickdfresh]

Alleged? :lmao:

Don't try to get a sense of humor after your continued insults, asshole.

I say "alleged" because one can get sued for slander, it's happened, you ignorant dicklick!


That shit I posted is from last fucking month. Skin heads are racist chicken shits that hide behind the premise of state sponsored socialism.

Oh right! Skinheads are like socialists like the black President...

Jesus dude, are you drooling all over your cock right now?


AL-Qaeda is the same fucking thing sponsored by the Muslim religion.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=069RiGTxG0Q

I only saw American heros.

"Muslim" isn't a religion, you retard! Islam is...

[ELVIS]

Jered Laughner - right wing lunatic gun nut.



I never heard of Jered Laughner, but Jared Loughner was described by his friends as a "left-wing political radical."

Stop being dishonest, FORD...

[FORD]

I never heard of Jered Laughner, but Jared Loughner was described by his friends as a "left-wing political radical."

Stop being dishonest, FORD...

Right.....

Skinhead with a gun fetish who shoots a Democratic Congresswoman in the head because Sarah Palin put targets on her head and Glenn BecKKK told him to shoot Liberals in the head, is a "left-wing radical".

Bullshit.

[ELVIS]

Dude, you just fucking regurgitated what you heard on some liberal talk show...

[ELVIS]

What Does Jared Lee Loughner Believe? - Political Hotsheet - CBS ...
www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20028022-503544.html - Cached
Jan 10, 2011 ... Jared Lee Loughner, the young man who allegedly shot Rep. ... who wrote he had once been "very liberal" and added, "he was leftwing when I ...
AZ SHOOTER: Left-Winger JARED LOUGHNER – He Likes ...
www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/01/shooter-jarod-laughner/ - Cached
Jan 8, 2011 ... He was reportedly left-wing, quite liberal. ... Spelled Jared Loughner on his youtube channel, with his YouTube nic being “classitup10″ ...
Profile of suspect Jared Loughner - MSNBC.com
www.nbcnews.com/id/40980334/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/ - Cached
Jan 9, 2011 ... Profile of Jared Loughner, suspected in the shooting of a federal judge, ... She described his politics in the past as "left wing, quite liberal, ...
Jared Loughner Described by Classmate as “Left-Wing Pothead ...
www.infowars.com/jared-loughner-described-by-classmate-as-left-wing- pothead/ - Cached
Jan 9, 2011 ... ​A classmate of the man accused of shooting Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords this morning describes him as “left wing” and a “pot head” in ...
Jared Loughner: Far left or far right? - The Week
theweek.com/article/index/.../jared-loughner-far-left-or-far-right - Cached
Jan 12, 2011 ... "Fact: Jared Loughner: Left wing, liberal". He fits better on the fringy right: Loughner and the far left both have anti-government views, says Mark ...
Jared Loughner, Alleged Shooter in Gabrielle Giffords Attack ...
blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/.../jared_loughner_alleged_shooter.php - Cached
Jan 8, 2011 ... Jared Loughner, Alleged Shooter in Gabrielle Giffords Attack, Described by Classmate as "Left-Wing Pothead". By James King Sat., Jan.
Left, right struggle to define Jared Lee Loughner - Carrie Budoff ...
www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47345.html - Cached
Jan 9, 2011 ... Thus far, it doesn't appear Jared Lee Loughner identified neatly with .... Loughner may have, in fact, been sympathetic to left-wing politics – with ...

[cadaverdog]

Never mind.

[jacksmar]

I say "alleged" because one can get sued for slander, it's happened, you ignorant dicklick!



Oh right! Skinheads are like socialists like the black President...

Jesus dude, are you drooling all over your cock right now?



"Muslim" isn't a religion, you retard! Islam is...

No shit??????????? Really?????????? Is that on wiki , niki ???????????????

There's only one dicklick here asshole and it's you. And I won't waste my time explaining the difference between a Nazi socialist and a Tony Benn socialist.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPL4VC_6F0o

BTW, Fuck Obama. Fuck him and his food stamp minions.

[cadaverdog]

And FORD falls for it...
They should rename this forum The Left Wing Propaganda Forum. That's about all they allow here anyway.

[fraroc]

They should rename this forum The Left Wing Propaganda Forum. That's about all they allow here anyway.

And you should change your name to "Kristy's Brother"

[ELVIS]

And you should lose that gay avatar...

[Hardrock69]

Don't be so tough on yourself.:luck:

Think of it like this. blah blah blah blah blah......frrrrrraaaaaaappppppp..............etc.


Etc.

Etc.



You have no idea how efficiently you are displaying your idiocy for the world to see.........Do you use extra bleach for your hood and robe to keep them from appearing to have any taint of darkness on them?

Have you finished goose-stepping around the living room yet?

Here....a favor for you...your favorite talk show host with his comedy monologue.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGhdX1SI3KY&bpctr=1365119666

[Nickdfresh]

Dude, I'm just a fucking retard who regurgitates what he hears on InfoWars...

Fixed...

[jacksmar]

Here....a favor for you...your favorite talk show host with his comedy monologue.....



Stick with pornography, HR. You have no idea what this bullshit thread is about.

Let me clear your simple mind for you. It ain't racism or racist to disagree with a premise. A false premise of bullshit propaganda for the benefit of the socialist left and leftists. That was the point of other posts of mine in this thread.

Once again, don't pretend to know me Lurch. My favorite talk show host:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbWI9xIGba4

[Nickdfresh]

It's pretty funny. The socialist left forgets Bill Ayers, WTC 1995, the underpants bomber, the Black Panthers, gabby's shooter, Colin Ferguson, Earth Liberation Front, and 19 AL-Qaeda Muslims. Pretty short sighted.

Maybe I missed how funny this is:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLrTdtOAgo4


Those damn Righter Wingers.

Or Oklahoma City, er, nevermind. And al Qaida ARE right wingers...

[Nickdfresh]

No shit??????????? Really?????????? Is that on wiki , niki ???????????????

Ooooh wow, another "ghey" wikisheepia with the lame regurgitation of Kristy's lame regurgitation...


There's only one dicklick here asshole and it's you. And I won't waste my time explaining the difference between a Nazi socialist and a Tony Benn socialist.

Maybe you should look it up on Wiki, so you have a clue what you're talking about you high school dropout loser-asshole?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPL4VC_6F0o

BTW, Fuck Obama. Fuck him and his food stamp minions.

Sort of gay...

[fraroc]

And you should lose that gay avatar...

Oh don't lie, you secretly want to put your log in my avatar's fireplace. (yeah, I'm quoting from the Book of Chaim Witz)

[jacksmar]

Or Oklahoma City, er, nevermind. And al Qaida ARE right wingers...

You want to play, fuckup?

I can give a HUGE mother fucking list of bombings in which Americans have died. Of the shit bags that did it, half have been named Muhammad.

Tim McVey and David Duke can go fuck themselves along with Ubama. And so can the bullshit abortion clinic bombers, the fucking Neo-Nazis, and Lawrence Auster. Fuck the Southern Manifesto.

And fuck the entire premise on this thread.

It's like saying the Jews killed the Germans. Got it asshole?

[jacksmar]

Oh don't lie, you secretly want to put your log in my avatar's fireplace. (yeah, I'm quoting from the Book of Chaim Witz)

Anyway you slice it


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5AyjGAQ1BI

[FORD]

It's like saying the Jews killed the Germans. Got it asshole?

No, it's not like saying that at all....

Unless you have evidence of 6 million dead inbred white racist sisterfuckers somewhere that I'm unaware of.

And if you did.... well, at least in this case, it's a good start.

[Hardrock69]

The Jews killed the Germans?

What retarded horse did you ride in on, O half-wit?

[ELVIS]

That's not what he said...

Now run along and clean your room/mom's basement...

The grown-ups are talking...

[jacksmar]

No, it's not like saying that at all....

Unless you have evidence of 6 million dead inbred white racist sisterfuckers somewhere that I'm unaware of.

And if you did.... well, at least in this case, it's a good start.

TARD, you worthless idiot, you're too dense to understand communism by insurance mandates. That's why that comment got by you.

[FORD]

That's not what he said...

Now run along and clean your room/mom's basement...

The grown-ups are talking...

Or in the case of you and jerksmear, the thrown-ups are talking. :puke:

[jhale667]

It's like saying the Jews killed the Germans.



Uh, no it's not - and once again you've proven yourself to be a complete idiot. :doh:

[ELVIS]

TARD, you worthless idiot, you're too dense to understand communism by insurance mandates.

No, I think FORD does understand that...

That's why people along his line of thinking are dangerous to freedom...

[FORD]

TARD, you worthless idiot, you're too dense to understand communism by insurance mandates. That's why that comment got by you.

Well, you're half right, for once.

I don't spend a lot of time obsessing over "communism", mostly because it pretty much ceased to exist in any significant sense about 23 years ago.

Insurance mandates are actually a form of fascism, just as Mussolini defined it, as it is the merging of corporate and state power.

Which is why I not only oppose insurance mandates, but the existence of corporate health care insurance at all.

But enough of your threadjacking. We have other threads to discuss a real healthcare system without profits.

This thread is about right wing fascist terrorism being more of a threat to this country than some fucking fictional boogieman created by the BCE.

[jacksmar]

Hero of leftists


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSPQxe7z_tA&feature=player_embedded#!

[ELVIS]

I searched the local New Orleans news today and there was not one case of right wing fascist terrorism...

No inner city black terrorism yet either, but the night is still young...

[jhale667]

Let's see... Black Panthers...check... Louis Farakhan (sp), check. "Blacks are criminals" inference, check. Yep, you're a ignorant racist scumbag and pitiful excuse for a human being, TARDsmear. :dafinger:

[jacksmar]

Let's see... Black Panthers...check... Louis Farakhan (sp), check. "Blacks are criminals" inference, check. Yep, you're a ignorant racist scumbag and pitiful excuse for a human being, TARDsmear. :dafinger:

You are seriously weird sometimes. It makes you a mother fucking racist for disagreeing with Louis.

You want to play name games?


So a man walks into a bar with a horse....



I forgot the rest of the joke but your mom is a whore.:finger33:

[jhale667]

You are seriously weird sometimes. It makes you a mother fucking racist for disagreeing Louis.



WTF does that even mean, TARD?? Can't stand the douche, but you thinking he's seen as anything other than a joke by people OTHER than you, the guy who lives in abject fear of him? Priceless.

[ELVIS]

WTF does that even mean, TARD??

:biggrin:

You have issues...

[jacksmar]

WTF does that even mean, TARD?? Can't stand the douche, but you thinking he's seen as anything other than a joke by people OTHER than you, the guy who lives in abject fear of him? Priceless.

Explain it to him, TARD.

[jhale667]

:biggrin:

You have issues...

Said the racist zealot dry-drunk pillhead Yngwie wannabe troll with the sister-wife. Whatever, dude. :lmao:

[FORD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2U2h9a2xrg

On March 31st, 2013, Google decided to honor labor activist Cesar Chavez's birthday with a Google Doodle. Conservatives were not only outraged that Google would skip an Easter Google Doodle (they haven't had one since 2000), but they confused Cesar with HUGO CHAVEZ...

This clip from the Majority Report, live M-F at 12 noon EST and via daily podcast at http://Majority.FM

Subscribe to us on YouTube: http://youtube.com/user/SamSeder

[jhale667]

Getting a little tired of the whole right-wing christian conservative persecution complex, too.

[Hardrock69]

Confusing Hugo and Cesar Chavez?

:lmao:

Idiots....

[ELVIS]

Getting a little tired of the whole right-wing christian conservative persecution complex, too.

Maybe you should stop blaming Christians for your disadvantages in life...

[jhale667]

Maybe you should stop blaming Christians for your disadvantages in life...

Who's "disadvantaged" besides YOU, you pretentious prick? Get over yourself.

[ELVIS]

What have "Christians" ever done to bother you ??

[jhale667]

What have "Christians" ever done to bother you ??


REAL christians, not fake ones like you? Nothing. And even zealotards like you aren't capabel of "bothering" me, but your ilk seriously need to STFU and stop acting like the rest of the world needs to bow to your idiotic ideas. Doesn't work like that.


Like for example, asserting that your religious objection to ANYTHING is valid in a public policy debate. It's not.

[ELVIS]

I don't do that...

I just try, or should try to apply the Biblical truths of right and wrong to every situation...


:elvis:

[Zing!]

What have "Christians" ever done to bother you ??

Rang my doorbell.

[jhale667]

I don't do that...

I just try, or should try to apply the Biblical truths of right and wrong to every situation...




There ARE NO "biblical truths" dude (besides it's not cool to kill people, that's just common sense) - there are only your beliefs. It's the false certitude that you have some insight based on your belief in whatever mythology you subscribe to that others dont - THAT is what gets you in trouble.

[Seshmeister]

I don't do that...

I just try, or should try to apply the Biblical truths of right and wrong to every situation...


:elvis:

Thank goodness it's not true.

Genocide and slavery are just totally wrong dude.

[ELVIS]

:elvis:

[Zing!]

There ARE NO "biblical truths" dude (besides it's not cool to kill people, that's just common sense) - there are only your beliefs. It's the false certitude that you have some insight based on your belief in whatever mythology you subscribe to that others dont - THAT is what gets you in trouble.

Are you suggesting that I've been wasting my time living according to the book of Dianetics?

[jhale667]

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h217/jhale667/285766_558359880850079_895586879_n_zpsdcdd263e.jpg

[ELVIS]

And your point is ??

[Warham]

I actually find athiests to be even more ignorant than agnostics or theists.

[jhale667]

I actually find athiests to be even more ignorant than agnostics or theists.

That's you. I on the other hand think it's hilarious that in most cases atheists know the bible better than the so-called christians.

[FORD]

Overall, I wouldn't say atheists are ignorant.

Of course you do have the miltant anti-theists (like that Michael Newdow assclown from a few years back) who are just as batshit fundagelical about their non-belief as any right wing talibangelist is

As far as agnostics go, truth is they're the only ones who are intellectually honest about it, when you get down to the facts.

Believers have faith that there IS a god. Atheists have faith that there ISN'T. Agnostics say "I don't know, and neither do you", which is a factual statement.

I still call myself a Believer. I don't KNOW there is a God. I believe there is, because I've seen things that don't meet any physical scientific explanations. But that's a matter of faith, not reality.

Then of course, JC and Satan post right here on this board, so I guess that's evidence, right?

[Zing!]

That's you. I on the other hand think it's hilarious that in most cases atheists know the bible better than the so-called christians.

I know a few atheists who are better Christians than a lot of Christians.

[Nickdfresh]

You want to play, fuckup?

Not really, homo...


I can give a HUGE mother fucking list of bombings in which Americans have died. Of the shit bags that did it, half have been named Muhammad.

Tim McVey and David Duke can go fuck themselves along with Ubama. And so can the bullshit abortion clinic bombers, the fucking Neo-Nazis, and Lawrence Auster. Fuck the Southern Manifesto.

And fuck the entire premise on this thread.

Good for you, dummy. A big list? There's lots of big lists of dead. I knew a girl on one of those lists...


It's like saying the Jews killed the Germans. Got it asshole?

Jesus, you're a retard. Trying reading something than spam chainmails about the "Kenyan houseboy", shit-for-brains!

[Nickdfresh]

Alleged white supremacist arrested in connection with Colorado prison chief's death

By Matthew DeLuca, Staff Writer, NBC News

Colorado authorities have arrested a man who was sought for questioning in the slaying of the state's top prisons official.

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/130405-james-lohr-840a.photoblog600.jpg

James Lohr, 47, was arrested by Colorado Springs police, Lt. Jeff Kramer of the El Paso County Sheriff's Office confirmed Friday morning. Lohr and Thomas Guolee, 31, another man sought by police, are thought to have connections to the 211 Crew, a white supremacist gang formed in Colorado prisons in the mid-1990s.

The only suspect authorities have named in Clements' death, ex-convict Evan Ebel, is also thought to have had connections to the 211 Crew. Ebel, 28, was killed in a shootout with Texas deputies two days after Clements' death.

The sheriff's office said Lohr was arrested about 3:25 a.m. (5:25 a.m. ET) after he led Colorado Springs police on a short car chase and then fled on foot. He was being held on $250,000 bond pending a court appearance Monday on a felony charge of eluding law enforcement and on three unrelated outstanding warrants.

The head of the state Corrections Department, Tom Clements, was gunned down March 19, apparently while answering the doorbell at his home in Monument, Colo.

Police are still on the lookout for Guolee, who has been called armed and dangerous.

NBC News (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/05/17615175-alleged-white-supremacist-arrested-in-connection-with-colorado-prison-chiefs-death?lite)

[Warham]

That's you. I on the other hand think it's hilarious that in most cases atheists know the bible better than the so-called christians.

I can't disagree with you there. I was raised Catholic and I would venture to say 90% have never read the Bible or even given it a decent flip-through.

Perhaps you'd like to enlighten us with your personal worldview?

[jhale667]

I can't disagree with you there. I was raised Catholic and I would venture to say 90% have never read the Bible or even given it a decent flip-through.

So was I, (parochial school, whole deal) and that's the problem with that vociferous 90% (regardless of denomination)...they don't know WTF they're talking about, cherry-pick a few verses and twist it to fit their personal bigotry. Not to mention if you really read the bible, a lot of it is pretty heinous... Not saying there's not kernels of good in it in places, but to suggest it's a scientific manual, or that it somehow is relevant in a rational, logic-based non-biblical debate, or can be used as a valid objection in the discussion about people-who may not necessarily subscribe to it-'s rights, etc? Preposterous. Same goes for the Quran, the book of Mormom, whatever. I'm tired of the false sense of entitlement most religious types exhibit that somehow their beliefs should trump fact, logic reason, anyone's rights, etc.


In short, religion (whatever flavor) isn't necessary for people to behave "morally", and furthermore organized religion is responsible for a larger percentage of what's WRONG in the world.

I'm tired of THIS attitude:

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[Warham]

I would argue that the good the Christianity and other organized religions have done has far outweighed the bad. Many, many, many people need to feel that there is something greater than themselves in order to be productive humans in any capacity, even if they don't practice religion on a daily or weekly basic. Just the thought in the back of their head is enough. If that thought is removed, or if you believe you are just part of some cosmic soup and there is no ultimate meaning to life, what's the point? If you believe there's some kind of higher power or force at work in the universe that has some kind of plan, then there may be some meaning to this existence.

I'm not saying which is right, I'm saying that I believe religion is necessary for most humans.

[ELVIS]

So was I, (parochial school, whole deal) and that's the problem with that vociferous 90% (regardless of denomination)...they don't know WTF they're talking about, cherry-pick a few verses and twist it to fit their personal bigotry. Not to mention if you really read the bible, a lot of it is pretty heinous... Not saying there's not kernels of good in it in places, but to suggest it's a scientific manual, or that it somehow is relevant in a rational, logic-based non-biblical debate, or can be used as a valid objection in the discussion about people-who may not necessarily subscribe to it-'s rights, etc? Preposterous. Same goes for the Quran, the book of Mormom, whatever. I'm tired of the false sense of entitlement most religious types exhibit that somehow their beliefs should trump fact, logic reason, anyone's rights, etc.


In short, religion (whatever flavor) isn't necessary for people to behave "morally", and furthermore organized religion is responsible for a larger percentage of what's WRONG in the world.



What a cop-out...

You shouldn't go through your entire life with those blinders on...

God won't bite you...

[Zing!]

I'm not saying which is right, I'm saying that I believe religion is necessary for most humans.

Do you mean faith is necessary for most humans, or organized religion is necessary for most humans? If you mean faith I could see your point. It can be a powerful and ambiguous tool that can give extra meaning to the human existence without direct belief in one Bronze-Age Bogeyman or another.

If you really meant religion is necessary, then I say: yotabanashi.

Which is a cool word I learned from my good buddy Cato.

[jhale667]

I'm not saying which is right, I'm saying that I believe religion is necessary for most humans.

I will. That it should be is problematic, and shows we've got a ways to go as a society. Needing something like that to justify your existence is a flaw.


And speaking of that false certitude I mentioned...


What a cop-out...

You shouldn't go through your entire life with those blinders on...

God won't bite you...

You can (and do) tell yourself that until you're blue in the face, but the fact remains you're the one with the blinders on, dude. And something that doesn't exist (or couldn't be bothered with you if it did) can't "bite" you.

[Seshmeister]

I actually find athiests to be even more ignorant than agnostics or theists.

So you think 93% of the members of the National Academy of Sciences are ignorant.

[ELVIS]

So you think 93% of the members of the National Academy of Sciences are ignorant.

Of course, why not ??

Everyone is ignorant of something...

[jhale667]

Of course, why not ??


Because it makes you a buffoon.


Everyone is ignorant of something...

Some more than others...

[Warham]

So you think 93% of the members of the National Academy of Sciences are ignorant.

Science does not explain everything that there is to reality.

[Nickdfresh]

Science does not explain everything that there is to reality.

Dude, we should like totally fire up a bong!

[Warham]

Dude, we should like totally fire up a bong!

Is there a thumbs up on here?

[Northern Girl]

Is there a thumbs up on here?

:thumb:

[Seshmeister]

Science does not explain everything that there is to reality.

No but it's a fuck of a lot better at explaining things than the childish superstitions of clueless Iron Age goat herders.

[Warham]

No but it's a fuck of a lot better at explaining things than the childish superstitions of clueless Iron Age goat herders.

I'm not sure they were "childish". How the hell were people then supposed to know the world had been around for 4 billion years?

[jhale667]

Science does not explain everything that there is to reality.

Neither does shrugging your shoulders and saying "God did it".

[FORD]

I'm not sure they were "childish". How the hell were people then supposed to know the world had been around for 4 billion years?

But that's the whole problem with fundagelicals who insist that every word of the Bible is meant to be taken literally. They ignore the context that those words were written between 2000 - 4000 years ago by people who had little or no concept of anything scientific.

You can't really judge those people who didn't know better. But now that we do know better (i.e the earth NOT being the center of the universe. Or flat, for that matter), then you can't logically say that a book which claims it IS can be taken literally.

[Warham]

Neither does shrugging your shoulders and saying "God did it".

You can have it both ways.

[jhale667]

You can have it both ways.

No, you really can't, sorry.


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[ELVIS]

You can't really judge those people who didn't know better. But now that we do know better (i.e the earth NOT being the center of the universe. Or flat, for that matter), then you can't logically say that a book which claims it IS can be taken literally.

The Bible says the Earth is round... (http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/ScientificBible.htm)


1. The earth is round and is suspended in space:

You may be surprised to learn that the Bible revealed that the earth is round. Job 26:10, Prov 8:27, Isaiah 40:22, Amos 9:6. Today, we chuckle at the people of the fifteenth century who feared sailing because they thought they would fall over the edge of the flat earth. Yet the Bible revealed the truth in 1000 B.C. 2500 years before man discovered it for himself!

In various verses, the Bible says the earth is round and hangs in space. It took a long time for science to catch up and reach the same conclusions. Copernicus made the discovery in 1475. But the Bible always knew. Here are two related Bible verses that were written more than 2500 years ago, and more than 1000 years before Copernicus:

"He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth..." (Isaiah 40:22,NIV). (By the way, the Hebrew language at that time did not have a word for "sphere," only for "circle.")

"He spreads out the northern [skies] over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing" (Job 26:7, NIV).

"Paths of the sea" Matthew Maury (1806-1873) is considered the father of oceanography. He was bed-ridden during a serious illness and asked his son to read a portion of the Bible to him. While listening, he noticed the expression "paths of the sea" in Psalms 8:8. Upon his recovery, Maury took God at his word and went looking for these paths. We are indebted to his discovery of the warm and cold continental currents.

His book on oceanography is still considered a basic text on the subject and is still used in universities. Maury used the Bible as a
2. The Bible described the Hydrologic Cycle:

Revealed in the Bible: Job 36:27-28 The water cycle was not fully understood until about 30 B.C. by a Roman engineer named Marcus Vitruvius. Yet every aspect of the water cycle was fully revealed to mankind in 1600 B.C.! The Bible's description is in perfect harmony with modern science. Eccl 1:6-7; 11:3; Job 26:8; Amos 9:6. Vitruvius was 1600 years too late!

In various passages, the Bible describes a hydrologic cycle, the process by which clouds are formed, rain is produced and ground water is replenished. Science made the same discovery in the 1600s, long after the Bible passages were written. Here are the related Bible verses:

"He wraps up the waters in his clouds, yet the clouds do not burst under their weight" (Job 26:8, NIV).

"He draws up the drops of water, which distill as rain to the streams; the clouds pour down their moisture and abundant showers fall on mankind" (Job 36:27-28, NIV).

"The wind blows to the south and turns to the north; round and round it goes, ever returning on its course. All streams flow into the sea, yet the sea is never full. To the place the streams come from, there they return again" (Ecclesiastes 1:6-7, NIV).

3. The Bible stated that the stars cannot be counted: For centuries, scientists and astronomers thought they could count the precise number of stars in the universe. Brahe, for example, said there were 777. Kepler claimed the total was 1,005. Hipparchus said there were 1,022 stars. Ptolemy raised the number to 1,056. Eventually, scientists, including the great Galileo, concluded that the stars could not be numbered, just as the Bible had always claimed:

"I will make the descendants of David my servant and the Levites who minister before me as countless as the stars of the sky and as measureless as the sand on the seashore" (Jeremiah 33:22, NIV).

He took him outside and said, "Look up at the heavens and count the stars--if indeed you can count them." Then he said to him, "So shall your offspring be." (Genesis 15:5, NIV).

4. The Bible stated the existence of valleys and springs in the seas: Only until the past few hundred years did people have the technology to discover that there are deep valleys and fresh water springs in the oceans. But the Bible always knew:

"The valleys of the sea were exposed and the foundations of the earth laid bare at the rebuke of the Lord. . . " (2 Samuel 22:16, NIV).

"In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, on the seventeenth day of the second month--on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened. " (Genesis 7:11, NIV).

5. The Bible stated that kind words and laughter are good for one's health: In recent years, American newspapers have published various reports that laughter releases chemicals within a person's body that can contribute to one's health. And, that depression and stress can weaken the immune system and contribute to various health problems. But, the Bible knew of the health virtues of laughter roughly 3000 years ago when the Bible's book of Proverbs was recorded:

"Pleasant words are a honeycomb, sweet to the soul and healing to the bones." (Proverbs 16:24, NIV).

"A cheerful heart is good medicine, but a crushed spirit dries up the bones." (Proverbs 17:22, NIV).

6. The Bible stated that stars differ from one another centuries before scientists reached the same conclusion: Today we know that the stars in the skies are very different from one another, that they are made up of differing concentrations of different elements, and that they vary in their sizes, their ages and in their proximity to the earth. But the ancient people had no way to prove this. Even so, Paul, who received many insights from Jesus, wrote a passage about 2000 years ago in the Bible's book of 1 Corinthians that said that the stars in the heavens did indeed differ from one another:

"The sun has one kind of splendor, the moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendor." (1 Corinthians 15:41). God used "anesthesia" before it was even discovered:

gen. 2:21, "so the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep ; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man's ribs..."

God commanded the hebrews to cleanse themselves with fresh water even before the discovery of bacteria(God is in the tomorrow already!)

lev. 15:13, "...he must wash his clothes and bathe himself with fresh water, and he will be clean."

I am a nurse, and if we have patients with contagious disease or condition we isolate them. but God commanded this a long time ago:

lev. 13:46, "as long as he has the infection, he remains unclean. he must live alone . he must live outside the camp.

why do health officials quarantine infectious individuals? so they won't spread infection. God knew it even before they did!

The bible describes the precision of movement in the universe:

jer. 31:35, "thus says the Lord, who gives the sun for a light by day, the ordinances of the moon and the stars for a light by night, who disturbs the sea and its waves roar..."

The bible describes the circulation of atmosphere:

ecc. 1:6, "the wind goes toward the south and turns around to the north, the wind whirls about continually and comes again on its circuit."

The bible includes some principles of fluid dynamics:

job 28:25, "to establish the weight for a wind and apportion the waters by measure."

lev.17:11 describes the value of blood, "for the life of the flesh is in the blood..."

The bible describes something like a television, probably a satellite TV that will allow everyone to see a single event:

rev. 11:19, "...then those from the peoples, tribes, tongues and nations will see their dead bodies for three and one half days..."

6 DAY CREATION...

GOD WAS TAKING HIS TIME If a fair maiden kisses a frog which instantly changes into a handsome prince, we would call it a fairy tale. But if the change takes 40 million years, we call it evolution. We often hear that science has proved evolution. Nothing could be further from the truth. You see, people often confuse scientific fact with scientific theory. Current scientific theory does conflict with creation. But the facts of science do not! There are many scientists who fully accept Biblical creation. Surprised?

The theory of evolution says that over millions of years simple life forms (one celled creatures) slowly evolved into complex life forms (fish), and that one kind of animal evolved into another kind (ape to man). Genesis, on the other hand, says that all life forms were created in six, 24 hour days. Genesis chapter one states 10 times that life forms can only reproduce after their own kind (ape to ape, man to man).

All the observable facts of science strongly support the Bible's claim that it is impossible for one kind to reproduce a different kind. The truth is, there is absolutely no tangible evidence to support evolution from any area of science, just theory and a wild imagination!

But if the Bible is wrong and man actually did evolve in small graduations over a long period of time, we should find ample fossil evidence of links in intermediate stages of transition. For decades, evolutionists have searched for fossils of these links to prove biblical creation wrong. Although millions of fossils have been unearthed, not even one missing link has ever been found. Has it ever occurred to you that this is the reason why scientists refer to them as missing links?

Even Charles Darwin realized the difficulty missing links gave his theory. Darwin wrote in his book, Origin Of The Species, "Why, if species have descended from other species by fine graduation, do we not everywhere see innumerable transitional forms? Why is not all nature in confusion, instead of the species being, as we see them, well defined?" The reason we have never found any missing links is quite simple. Darwin's theory of evolution is wrong!

Experts tricked for 40 years! In 1912, Arthur Woodward announced to the world that he had found the missing link between ape and man. Piltdown Man, as he called it, consisted of a jaw bone and a piece of skull which he estimated to be over 500,000 years old! However, in 1953, when the new fluoride dating process was applied to the bones, scientists were shocked to learn that the jaw bone was less than 50 years old.

Only then did they notice that the bones and teeth had been treated with salts and filed to make them appear old and primitive. In other words, Piltdown Man was a complete fraud. Take note Bible student! The world's foremost scientific experts had been fooled for over 40 years! (Read 1 Corinthians 3:18-20.) For almost a half century, evolutionists pushed Piltdown Man in the faces of Bible believers as scientific proof we evolved from apes! Some proof!

In spite of over 100 years of intensive searching, the only place you will find a missing link today is in the colourful imagination of an evolutionist. Museums certainly don't have any! "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." (Gen 1:1) Have you ever considered that when God created the universe in six short 24 hour days, He may have been taking His time?

Although the Bible is not primarily a book of science, it does contain numerous scientific facts. We laugh at the scientific knowledge of just a hundred years ago. If man alone were the author of the Bible, we would expect to find many such humorous errors contained in it. However, if we examine the scientific data of the Bible and find it to be accurate to present-day knowledge, then we have powerful evidence for divine authorship.

The scientific facts we are about to examine are not only accurate, but were revealed thousands of years before man discovered them for himself. The Bible does not contain any errors typical of the time in which it was written. Would we expect anything less from a book written by God?

The Bible is a reliable book of genuine divine prophecy. You can trust it! The evidence presented here is just a tiny portion of the proofs available to establish the divine origin of the Bible. Yet, they are more than sufficient to prove the inspiration of the Bible. There will always be men who scoff at the Bible. You, however, can be confident when you read your Bible that God is the author, for it is written:

"We constantly thank God that when you received from us the word of God's message, you accepted it not as the word of men, but for what it really is, the word of God" (1 Thessalonians 2:13).

The Bible is the world's all-time best selling book. About 2.5 billion copies have been printed which are available in over 700 languages. Although the Bible has enjoyed such vast distribution and attention, it is read relatively little. Perhaps part of the reason the Bible is so neglected is the many doubts people have about this unique book. If the Bible came from the mouth of God, then the scriptures are believable when they speak of Jesus Christ and accurate when they touch the realm of science.

All scripture is inspired by God and is profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work. (2 Timothy 3:16,17)

The word "inspired" (theopneustos) in the original Greek language literally means "God-breathed". When the Bible claims to be inspired, we understand therefore, that it came from the mouth of God. It is God-breathed, inspired.

But a skeptic will say, "Everyone knows the Bible was written by men! The book of 1 Corinthians, for example, was written by a man named Paul. After all, the very first verse bears his name as the "author." In reply to this we answer: "Yes, 1 Corinthians was written by Paul. Notice however, what Paul said in chapter 14, verse 37: "the things I write to you are the Lord's commandment."

Paul knew the source of his writings and understood that he was like a pen in the hand of Almighty God. We must not view the Bible as the word of Paul, Peter, or Jeremiah, but rather, as the message God revealed through these men just as it is written in Jeremiah 1:9,

Then the Lord stretched out his hand and touched my mouth, and the Lord said to me, 'behold, I have put my words in your mouth'.

The Bible writers were not like news reporters giving their personal interpretation of events they eye-witnessed, but were divinely guided as 2 Peter 1:20-21 says,

Above all, you must understand that no prophesy of scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation. For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

God and man worked together in writing the scriptures. However, in this work, God is the author who dictated the message, and man is the writing instrument. Men were guided or inspired to write the exact message God wanted recorded in the Bible. Now that we have a fundamental understanding of inspiration and the origin of the Bible, let us look at some evidence of inspiration.

"We constantly thank God that when you received from us the word of God's message, you accepted it not as the word of men, but for what it really is, the word of God" (1 Thessalonians 2:13).


:elvis:

[Seshmeister]

I'm not sure they were "childish". How the hell were people then supposed to know the world had been around for 4 billion years?

Exactly - you agree it's not God's words.

It's childish now to still believe these superstitions. Back then if you saw a rainbow or a thunderstorm it was quite rational to think it must be supernatural.

[ELVIS]

What basis supports Iron Age goat herders as "clueless" ??

[ELVIS]

Back then if you saw a rainbow or a thunderstorm it was quite rational to think it must be supernatural.

Is that Seshgetti scripture or some bullshit ??