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ELVIS
06-22-2013, 02:57 PM
(NaturalNews) (http://www.naturalnews.com/040890_greenhouses_carbon_dioxide_generators_plant _growth.html) For only "pennies a day," any greenhouse owner can produce CO2 to help increase plant yields in their greenhouses. That's the message on CO2 generators sold by greenhouse supply companies across the United States and Canada. "1,500 ppm [of carbon dioxide] can be achieved... these generators automatically provide the carbon dioxide needed to meet maximum growing potential for only pennies a day," the ad says.

http://www.naturalnews.com/gallery/300x250/Misc/CO2Burner-Greenhouse.jpg

CO2 generators "improve plant quality" and "increase production." They're made in the USA and run on propane or natural gas, turning fossil fuels into carbon dioxide.

Why does this work to radically improve plant growth, health and yields? Because -- are you ready for the truth? -- CO2 is a plant NUTRIENT.

Nope, it's not a pollutant that threatens human civilization as has been ridiculously claimed by global warming doomsday pushers. CO2 actually increases plant yields, accelerates "re-greening" and improves reforestation of the planet. And while today's atmosphere contains only 400 ppm of carbon dioxide, CO2 generators can help raise that level to 1500 ppm inside greenhouses, thereby accelerating plant growth and food production.

Is CO2 is so bad for the planet, why do greenhouses pay to produce it?

If CO2 was so terrible for the planet, then installing a CO2 generator in a greenhouse would kill the plants. But scientists and even governments actually recommend supplementing CO2 in greenhouses in order to boost plant growth and food production.

"The benefits of carbon dioxide supplementation on plant growth and production within the greenhouse environment have been well understood for many years," says the Ontario Ministry of Agriculture and Food.

"CO2 increases productivity through improved plant growth and vigour. Some ways in which productivity is increased by CO2 include earlier flowering, higher fruit yields, reduced bud abortion in roses, improved stem strength and flower size. Growers should regard CO2 as a nutrient... increasing the CO2 level to 1,000 ppm will increase the photosynthesis by about 50% over ambient CO2 levels."

In fact, as recent scientific studies have shown, the slight rise in CO2 levels of the atmosphere has actually helped re-green deserts and arid areas, accelerating the growth of trees, shrubs and grasses which produce the oxygen human needs to breathe.

Attacking carbon dioxide is hate speech against Mother Nature
The more you really examine the scientific truth about carbon dioxide rather than the politically-charged "hate speech" against Mother Nature being spewed by people like Al Gore, the more you realize CO2 is a crucial nutrient for the Earth's environment and ecosystem. In fact, the vast majority of all the CO2 released into the atmosphere is produced by Mother Nature via animals in the ocean. Anyone who criticizes CO2 is attacking ocean life and condemning trillions of aquatic creatures who exhale carbon dioxide as part of their natural respiration. (Should they all be fined?)

As a society interested in reforestation, expanding the diversity of plant life, nourishing trees and re-greening deserts, we should no longer tolerate anyone engaged in hate speech against Mother Nature and CO2. Those who attempt to demonize this critical nutrient for the planet are engaged in a kind of hate-motivated racism against plants.

If it's not okay to condemn someone for being black, why is it okay for people like Al Gore to engage in endless hate speech against all the living beings that are green?

Besides, all those people who keep sounding the alarm on CO2 are being too negative all the time. Nobody spews more doom and gloom than Al Gore and the global warming crowd who paint apocalyptic pictures of Earth's future if we all don't start paying carbon taxes to the super rich. Stop being so negative!

They need to practice more positivity and repeat to themselves affirmations like:

"CO2 is a nutrient for forests."

"CO2 is produced by ocean life."

"CO2 brings balance to the global ecosystem."

"CO2 is to plants as oxygen is to humans."

"CO2 can help transform barren deserts into sustainable forests."

Perhaps by staying positive, the global warming fearmongers and doom-and-gloomers can calm down, take a few breaths (with extra CO2) and recognize that what's good for plants is good for the planet.


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FORD
06-22-2013, 03:08 PM
Seriously.... are you going to parrot Michelle Bachmann talking points now? :headlights:

Greenhouse growers generate CO2 because PLANTS FUCKING BREATHE IT.

Humans and animals don't.

It used to be a balance because the plants breathed CO2 and produced Oxygen.

That balance was shot to Hell after humans depleted the forests while at the same time burning more fossil fuels, and producing more Carbon Dioxide than the remaining plants could handle.

The solution to both - legalize industrial hemp, grow it everywhere possible, and use it to make biofuels for existing engines, and make more Tesla cars for the future.

ELVIS
06-22-2013, 03:15 PM
Greenhouse growers generate CO2 because PLANTS FUCKING BREATHE IT.



That's the point...

PETE'S BROTHER
06-22-2013, 03:25 PM
for a few more pennies a day..

10224

FORD
06-22-2013, 03:28 PM
No, the point is the greedy brainless corporatist cocksuckers clearcut all the forests. That's why there's not enough oxygen produced.

You can pump all the CO2 you want into your tiny greenhouse in your back yard, but the oxygen those plants produce isn't going to go very far.

Nothing produces oxygen like an old growth forest.... and those are disappearing fast :(

ELVIS
06-23-2013, 08:30 AM
No they're not...

ELVIS
06-23-2013, 08:32 AM
Here's some positive news from Exxonmobil (http://www.exxonmobilperspectives.com/2012/09/12/natural-gas-fuels-bright-outlook-for-further-emissions-reductions/?gclid=CPSY2tOW-rcCFehr7AodT08AQw)...


Natural gas fuels bright outlook for further emissions reductions

We know that burning natural gas for electricity reduces greenhouse gas emissions by up to 60 percent compared to coal-fired power generation – that’s a major factor behind the historic drop in U.S. emissions highlighted by the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

http://www.exxonmobilperspectives.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/xom_natgas_bsa_research-01.png

Now it turns out the emissions reductions could be even more impressive going forward.

So conclude the analysts at Benjamin Schlesinger and Associates in a study of the shift from coal to gas in U.S. power generation. Their report was written up last week in Platts Inside Energy (subscription required).

The Benjamin Schlesinger report points out that generating baseload electricity with gas typically uses combined-cycle turbines which are relatively new and highly efficient.

By contrast, much of the coal combustion that is being replaced is from power plants that are far older and considerably less efficient. More than 60 percent of the nation’s coal-fired power plants are at least 40 years old, and many of these old facilities are being shuttered.

“When gas replaces coal in power generation,” the report states, “the old coal plant is slowed or shut down in deference to electricity from a new, more efficient gas plant. Thus, less fuel is required, with less CO2 emissions.”

The report’s numbers are eye-catching: As coal plants are retired over the next few years and their production replaced by electricity from natural gas, according to Schlesinger, CO2 emissions will plummet by an average of 68 percent.

There’s a lot of talk in Washington about how to slow the growth of greenhouse gas emissions. Seems like energy markets are already taking on that task, with the help of abundant natural gas.



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Nickdfresh
06-23-2013, 09:55 AM
Sesh, I need you to dump this, please...

Or remod me and I'll dump it for you... ;)

Nickdfresh
06-23-2013, 09:57 AM
[i]...
They need to practice more positivity and repeat to themselves affirmations like:

"CO2 is a nutrient for forests."

"CO2 is produced by ocean life."

"CO2 brings balance to the global ecosystem."

"CO2 is to plants as oxygen is to humans."

"CO2 can help transform barren deserts into sustainable forests."

Perhaps by staying positive, the global warming fearmongers and doom-and-gloomers can calm down, take a few breaths (with extra CO2) and recognize that what's good for plants is good for the planet.


:elvis:

This ad brought to you by anti-scientific crazy bitches and the CO2 council...

:shiznit:

TFM_Dale
06-23-2013, 10:34 AM
I think he Googles "craziest made up shit on the internet" and posts it here.

knuckleboner
06-23-2013, 10:47 AM
my god. this is the logic of a 5 year old.

look, let's try and make this really easy: everybody needs water to live. yet water can kill you in many ways. drowning. blunt force trauma if you hit it hard enough. screwing up your internal chemistry if you drink too much.

anyone who can't understand the concept of moderation, shouldn't try arguing science.

Seshmeister
06-23-2013, 10:47 AM
http://p.playserver1.com/ProductImages/7/5/2/3/4/9/9/1/19943257_300x300_1.jpg




Hahahaha

Incredible.


And brought to you by those nice completely independent people at Exxon... :D

Nickdfresh
06-23-2013, 11:22 AM
That's Exxon-Mobil to you sir. Two-thirds of Standard Oil, when we didn't believe in monopolies...

ashstralia
06-23-2013, 11:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz-Q-4RUd28

FORD
06-23-2013, 12:11 PM
Here's some positive news from Exxonmobil (http://www.exxonmobilperspectives.com/2012/09/12/natural-gas-fuels-bright-outlook-for-further-emissions-reductions/?gclid=CPSY2tOW-rcCFehr7AodT08AQw)...


Stop reading right there, because everything those motherfuckers say is a goddamned LIE. Especially if it's about environmental issues. Those bastards are still lying about what they did to Alaska.

FORD
06-23-2013, 12:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz-Q-4RUd28

Leave it to Top Gear to come up with amazing, yet hopelessly impractical solutions :biggrin:

What he's got there (not the greenhouse obviously, but the other thing) looks like a "Brita filter" for exhaust. Problem is to make it work for any length of time, you would probably have to have one as big as the greenhouse and tow it around all the time. And then dispose of it afterwards, which would be a whole new set of problems.

Nickdfresh
06-23-2013, 12:24 PM
Here's some positive news from Nazi Reich Minister, Josef Goebbels:

"The Holocaust isn't happening."

ELVIS
06-23-2013, 06:14 PM
I think he Googles "craziest made up shit on the internet" and posts it here.

Even if that were the case, It's my prerogative...

But keep on believing the bullshit the main line status quo feeds you...

Like a good little sheep...


:flock:

TFM_Dale
06-23-2013, 06:52 PM
Even if that were the case, It's my prerogative...


That is true, I get many a laugh reading some if your posts and for that I thank you! Every site needs some crazy to it.

ELVIS
06-23-2013, 06:55 PM
:biggrin: