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Nickdfresh
09-28-2013, 06:51 PM
US shutdown likely as House Republicans amend budget bill
AFP (http://news.yahoo.com/republicans-plot-unified-position-shutdown-crisis-171104310.html)
12 minutes ago
Washington (AFP) - Setting up a high-stakes political showdown, the US House votes Saturday on a Republican plan that keeps government open through mid-December while delaying implementation of President Barack Obama's health care law.
The move prompted a sharp rebuke from the White House, which warned it was a step toward shutting down the government once the fiscal year ends Monday night, and vowed to veto any such bill.
House Speaker John Boehner convened a rare Saturday session as Congress struggles to break a funding impasse that, if unresolved, would require hundreds of thousands of federal workers to stay home.
In addition, more than a million US military personnel would remain on duty -- but with no pay.
Under pressure from his party's far-right conservative wing, Boehner doubled down on his caucus's bid to stop Obama's signature domestic achievement, the health care law, vowing to send a bill back to the Senate but with little time for legislative action to avoid a shutdown.
If Republicans vote in unison as expected, the House will approve a measure "that will keep the government open and stop as much of the president's health care law as possible," Boehner said in a statement.
"We will do our job and send this bill over, and then it's up to the Senate to pass it and stop a government shutdown."
The House had earlier passed a temporary budget bill known as a continuing resolution that included a provision defunding so-called Obamacare altogether.
The Democratic-led Senate stripped that part out and sent a clean stopgap measure back to the House.
But instead of passing it, the House plans to amend the bill with a one-year delay of the health care law and repeal of an unpopular medical device tax.
While conservative lawmakers hailed the move, the White House slammed it.
"Today, Republicans in the House of Representatives moved to shut down the government," spokesman Jay Carney said in a statement just hours before the vote.
"Any member of the Republican Party who votes for this bill is voting for a shutdown.
"It's time for the House to listen to the American people and act, as the Senate has, in a reasonable way to pass a bill that keeps the government running and move on."
A furious Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid attacked the move as "pointless" brinkmanship that could end in economic crisis.
"To be absolutely clear, the Senate will reject both the one-year delay of the Affordable Care Act and the repeal of the medical device tax," Reid said.
"The American people will not be extorted by Tea Party anarchists."
Driving the point home, a Senate Democratic aide said it was highly unlikely the chamber would be in session before Monday.
"We are not playing games," he told AFP.
House Democrats, largely powerless to prevent passage of Republican-backed legislation in the lower chamber, expressed worry that the US government would suffer the same fate as a Washington deadlock in late 1995 that resulted in a 21-day work stop.
"I think we are on our way" to a shutdown, said Congressman John Lewis, a 27-year House veteran. "We're closer now than ever before."
Despite obvious recent divisions among Republicans over the path forward, lawmakers exited Boehner's meeting insisting they were of one mind in pegging an Obamacare delay to the temporary spending bill.
And they charged that Democrats would be on the hook for any government closure, not Republicans.
Boehner and fellow House leaders had struggled to stake out a position palatable to their divided members.
A chorus of criticism -- including from Obama as well as some centrist Republicans in the Senate -- accused Tea Party-backed lawmakers of unwisely threatening a shutdown if they did not get their way.
"How dare you presume a failure?" Congressman Darrell Issa barked at a reporter who asked what would happen when the Senate rejects the House measure.
"We continue to anticipate that there's an opportunity for sensible compromise."
Congress has less than 60 hours to strike a deal that keeps government open, but the ping-ponging of legislation is making that unlikely.
As if anticipating a possible shutdown, Boehner said the House would vote on a separate measure "that ensures our troops get paid, no matter what."
Nickdfresh
09-28-2013, 06:53 PM
Well, at least those "freeloaders" getting free gov't healthcare, aka the "troops" and congressional politicians, will still get paid...
Hardrock69
09-28-2013, 09:52 PM
Fuck Boner. That drunk cocksucker needs to go fuck himself.
Bottom line is we have to extract these fucking teabaggers from the House by whatever means necessary, or there will never be a proper budget passed in this country again.
Having to go through this bullshit every three months or so is just goddamned ludicrous.
Hardrock69
09-28-2013, 10:16 PM
True. Starting in 2014. Replace all the Republicans running for re-election with Democrats. It is necessary to do this in the interest of national security.
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jacksmar
09-30-2013, 09:31 AM
You guys said the tea party was no longer relevant.
Doesn't matter. The spineless Repukes caved and the national socialist exchanges start Oct 1.
Politics 101: Nothing changes
ToraToraTora
09-30-2013, 11:09 AM
I'm from the UK and i just don't get why your politicians have to play chicken with your finances every couple of years. Hope you guys don't suffer too much and yet another compromise budget gets announced.
jacksmar
09-30-2013, 12:30 PM
Tora, the departments within the US government are spending the last of their budgets today. This doesn’t even take into account the now annual lack of real budgets.
We've been in constant CR without any real planning being done by these congressional assholes.
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September 30th, 2013
06:11 PM ET
14 minutes ago
First on CNN: Moderate House Republicans working to line up votes on their own plan
CNN Chief Congressional Correspondent Dana Bash
Washington (CNN) - Moderate House Republicans who want to fund the government with no strings attached are working to line up votes against a House GOP plan to renew federal coffers while chipping away at Obamacare, multiple GOP sources involved in the effort tell CNN.
Rep. Charlie Dent, R-Pennsylvania, Rep. Peter King, R-New York, and others are feverishly making calls to stage what would effectively be a revolt.
They say they are hoping there are enough GOP members like them who are fed up with the tactics of the leadership that they can find enough votes to defeat the first procedural measure, known as the rule.
That would prevent the House GOP leadership from even bringing their plan up at all.
Given the makeup of the GOP caucus, these House Republican moderates would need in the ballpark of 20 Republicans to agree to defy their leadership, and be willing to face what will undoubtedly be the wrath of the conservative grassroots.
Peter King is considered a "moderate" now???
That's an indication of how goddamn off the rails this country is.......
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Hardrock69
09-30-2013, 07:17 PM
Gotta love it. Noted journalist Bob Schaeffer made the observation today that even if the gummint shuts down, Obamacare is still going to go into effect.
The very opposite of what the Republicans want.
I WANT the government to shut down. For one thing, it won't be shut down more than a day or two.
The Republican Party is already being blamed for this BS by a majority of Americans, and IF the government does shut down, the Republicans in Congress may as well resign right now, as they are going to be defeated in a landslide in the 2014 elections.
Republicans everywhere can thank the Tea Party idiots for destroying their political party.
Nihilists, the lot of them.
Nickdfresh
09-30-2013, 07:33 PM
You guys said the tea party was no longer relevant.
Doesn't matter. The spineless Repukes caved and the national socialist exchanges start Oct 1.
Politics 101: Nothing changes
They start gassing Jews tomorrow, Jackstard?
jacksmar
09-30-2013, 07:38 PM
Goes deeper than that HR.
National socialist medicine was on the books for a couple of years now and the spineless Repukes did nothing.
Socialist medicine passed by a couple votes and skirted in the Senate to pass.
The Repukes will lose the house and a lot of the senate for this bullshit.
The only "socialist" medicine in the USA is Medicare and the VA.
What happens tomorrow is a slightly better regulated version of predatory capitalist medicine.
My predicition is that, in the short run, it may help some people who currently have no insurance coverage at all, find some that is affordable.
However, there's a difference between mandatory coverage by corporate insurance, and what that insurance will actually pay for, and doing so without endless hassles, red tape, and ridiculous deductibles.
It is always possible that the insurance industry could clean up their act and not attempt to gouge their (now federally mandated) customers any longer. It's also possible that there could be a blizzard in Hell tomorrow night. But neither one are very likely, which is why the question of REAL health care reform in this country is not settled by any means.
Nickdfresh
09-30-2013, 07:53 PM
Goes deeper than that HR.
National socialist medicine was on the books for a couple of years now and the spineless Repukes did nothing.
Socialist medicine passed by a couple votes and skirted in the Senate to pass.
The Repukes will lose the house and a lot of the senate for this bullshit.
You mean like Medicare? And yes, teabaggers are increasingly becoming an extremist minority forever...
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ELVIS
09-30-2013, 09:48 PM
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What's the difference ??
Voting on either one is futile and both will kill you...
:mad2:
So what does Alex Jones have to say about the teahadists attempt to destroy the government?
ELVIS
09-30-2013, 10:03 PM
He says shut it all down...
And I say enough with the scare tactics and the big government intrusion...
This Obombascare tax is designed to bankrupt everyone in it's path and make them dependent on the system...
A system by your own admission is already well beyond bankrupt both fiscally and morally...
Did you see the Mississippi nightmare, BTW ??
Speaking of nightmares.....
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Send that to Piyush and see if he has any comments.
“With those Republicans, we’re now in a situation where even if Obama said,
‘I want to give you motherfuckers a raise,’ they’d go, ‘Fuck you! We don’t want a raise!"
- Samuel L Jackson
Sarge
09-30-2013, 10:52 PM
This is really a shame........
jacksmar
09-30-2013, 11:10 PM
Sarge, I couldn't agree more.
And Ford, HR, Nick, Elvis are all correct.
What's embarrassing is the Repukes spotted the dempons 3 years on this issue and now have the nerve to whine.
Additionally, the dempons act like a sink hole will swallow the U.S.
ELVIS
09-30-2013, 11:11 PM
This is really a shame........
Sure is...
A global banking crime syndicate has taken over this country and hardly anyone is awake enough to see it...
dazzlindino
09-30-2013, 11:27 PM
r the republicans just putting up a front to stop obamacare or what....
they have had plenty of time to actually do something about it and havent.....
seems they would really want the big insurance co. and pharma to gain more revenue....or?
Kristy
09-30-2013, 11:49 PM
Sure is...
A global banking crime syndicate has taken over this country and hardly anyone is awake enough to see it...
Oh geesh~ not this shit.
Back from sucking Jone$ dick so soon?
Progressive Caucus Co-Chair Statement on Republican Government Shutdown
9/29/13
Washington, D.C. - Representatives Raúl M. Grijalva (D-AZ) and Keith Ellison (D-MN), Co-Chairs of the Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC), released the following statement today as House Republicans put the well-being of millions of working families at risk by causing an unnecessary government shutdown:
"We are extremely disappointed that the Republican Party put the ideological demands of a few ahead of the needs of millions of working families. It's not enough for them to deny tens of millions of Americans health care; they are also deliberately preventing housing loans to low and middle income families in rural communities, halting important government research into life-threatening diseases, furloughing thousands of working Americans and stopping $1 billion in assistance to small businesses. The American people need a Congress that works for them, not against them. The Republican majority proved with their action today that working families are not their priority.”
Sarge, I couldn't agree more.
And Ford, HR, Nick, Elvis are all correct.
What's embarrassing is the Repukes spotted the dempons 3 years on this issue and now have the nerve to whine.
Additionally, the dempons act like a sink hole will swallow the U.S.
The economic sinkhole of Randtard economic policies has been swallowing the US for 32 years now. It was just easier to ignore in the past, before Chimp and Darth Cheney cut the brake lines, and more recently, the teabaggers abandoned any pretense of restraint.
...and yet, predictably..... :(
NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE
September 30, 2013 7:56 PM
Moderate Threat Fizzles
By Jonathan Strong
The size of a bloc of GOP moderates ready to bring down a vote on the House floor over the government-funding bill shriveled from 25 lawmakers on Saturday to just two when the House voted just now to pass the rule.
New York representative Peter King and Pennsylvania representative Charlie Dent, two key moderates, voted no, while four hardline conservatives, including Representative Michele Bachmann of Minnesota, voted no because the bill didn’t draw a hard enough line against Obamacare.
Geezus, would somebody just shoot this lunatic bitch already? :rolleyes:
The episode is a reminder of how congressional centrists aren’t as reliable as ideological warriors when it comes to keeping threats. But it also took a personal appeal from Speaker John Boehner and the particular circumstances of the vote to sway the group.
During the rule vote, Boehner went to the back of the House chamber to deliver a message to the would-be moderate revolutionaries. “Trust me,” Boehner told them, according to King. Boehner said he understood their concerns, but he had a plan that would make the dire situation turn out alright.
When Boehner has made similar appeals to the conservatives, it has often fallen on deaf ears. In both parties, those further toward the left and right flanks tend to have greater certitude about their views, prompting a willingness to buck the party line. Moderates, by their very nature, make unlikely participants in a rump rebellion.
Another factor keeping the moderates from gaining steam was the content of the bill Republicans will send to the Senate later this evening. Its inclusion of a provision to repeal a subsidy for lawmakers and congressional staff to purchase health insurance on the Obamacare exchanges means voting against it opens up lawmakers to a charge, rightly or wrongly, of trying to protect a special perk for Congress.
In the end, even with bad optics and Boehner’s personal pitch, the vote was still fairly close. About ten Republicans voted yes quickly after the rule vote obtained a majority, making it clear it would win. That is, some of those were willing to vote no, but not join a losing effort.
Nitro Express
10-01-2013, 02:36 AM
The economic sinkhole of Randtard economic policies has been swallowing the US for 32 years now. It was just easier to ignore in the past, before Chimp and Darth Cheney cut the brake lines, and more recently, the teabaggers abandoned any pretense of restraint.
The real problem is high level corporate board collusion all centered around the Federal Reserve Bank. The participating political criminals have been in both parties. Frankly the Democrat vs Republican arguments are naive and don't take in the whole scope of the corruption because it's international and not just isolated in the United States.
The real problem right now is the rest of the world see's the United States Federal Government as a rogue war mongering nation that does not follow the rule of law anymore. The Federal Reserve has not paid it's large bond holders. It refuses to release Germany's gold which has caused NATO to fall apart. Countries are now trying to divest themselves of Federal Reserve Notes before nobody will take them.
Failure of the Federal Reserve Bank without a replacement currency means we won't be able to buy imports and confidence in the currency here will fail. I would say that's a bigger looming problem than Obamacare or a government shut down.
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Nitro Express
10-01-2013, 03:44 AM
Dude. The richest counties in the country are all around Washington DC. Why? All the government jobs that have been created there. The money is being taken out of the rest of the country and funneled into Washington DC. You want a job, then that's where they are and yes the government created all of them.
Seshmeister
10-01-2013, 10:38 AM
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ELVIS
10-01-2013, 10:49 AM
What a joke...
It's too bad the people spoke and Obomba couldn't start another war so he could keep the propaganda websites up...
What a shame...
:elvis:
Kristy
10-01-2013, 11:41 AM
I'm digging this whole U.S. Government shutdown. A day free from politicians and nonsense governmental offices like NASA..? Fuck yeah, great excuse to get high.
Kristy
10-01-2013, 11:43 AM
What a shame...
Did your parents not buy you that Tonka truck for Christmas?
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baru911
10-01-2013, 01:34 PM
Isn’t this whole thing just another non-event? It is an exercise to get points for either party’s base that can be rolled out at election time. You know, "Hey look how tough we were on ________". The only people that care are the people within the beltway, the 24 hour news cycle, and guys who sit home all day in their underwear and write on their blogs about politics.
It has become the equivalent of Chicken Little saying the sky is falling over and over. Nobody listening and nobody except for the underwear bloggers give a flying “f” about all of this posturing.
Va Beach VH Fan
10-01-2013, 03:07 PM
Isn’t this whole thing just another non-event? It is an exercise to get points for either party’s base that can be rolled out at election time. You know, "Hey look how tough we were on ________". The only people that care are the people within the beltway, the 24 hour news cycle, and guys who sit home all day in their underwear and write on their blogs about politics.
It has become the equivalent of Chicken Little saying the sky is falling over and over. Nobody listening and nobody except for the underwear bloggers give a flying “f” about all of this posturing.
Several of my friends got furloughed today. Try telling them it's a non-event.
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The Nullification Party
Andrew Sullivan (http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/10/01/the-nullification-party/)
Oct 1 2013 @ 11:37am
I’ve been trying to think of something original to say about the absurdity now transpiring in Washington, DC. I’ve said roughly what I think in short; and I defer to Fallows for an important dose of reality against the predictably moronic coverage of the Washington Post.
But there is something more here. How does one party that has lost two presidential elections and a Supreme Court case – as well as two Senate elections - think it has the right to shut down the entire government and destroy the full faith and credit of the United States Treasury to get its way on universal healthcare now? I see no quid pro quo even. Just pure blackmail, resting on understandable and predictable public concern whenever a major reform is enacted. But what has to be resisted is any idea that this is government or politics as usual. It is an attack on the governance and the constitutional order of the United States.
When ideologies become as calcified, as cocooned and as extremist as those galvanizing the GOP, the American system of government cannot work. But I fear this nullification of the last two elections is a deliberate attempt to ensure that the American system of government as we have known it cannot work. It cannot, must not work, in the mindset of these radicals, because they simply do not accept the legitimacy of a President and Congress of the opposing party. The GOP does not regard the president as merely wrong – but as illegitimate. Not misguided – illegitimate. This is not about ending Obamacare as such (although that is a preliminary scalp); it is about nullifying this presidency, the way the GOP attempted to nullify the last Democratic presidency by impeachment.
Except this time, of course, we cannot deny that race too is an added factor to the fathomless sense of entitlement felt among the GOP far right. You saw it in birtherism; in the Southern GOP’s constant outrageous claims of Obama’s alleged treason and alliance with Islamist enemies; in providing zero votes for a stimulus that was the only thing that prevented a global depression of far worse proportions; in the endless race-baiting from Fox News and the talk radio right. And in this racially-charged atmosphere, providing access to private healthcare insurance to the working poor is obviously the point of no return.
Even though the law is almost identical to that of their last presidential nominee’s in Massachusetts, the GOP is prepared to destroy both the American government and the global economy to stop it. They see it, it seems to me, as both some kind of profound attack on the Constitution (something even Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts viewed as a step too far) and, in some inchoate way, as a racial hand-out, however preposterous that is. And that is at the core of the recklessness behind this attack on the US – or at least my best attempt to understand something that has long since gone beyond reason. This is the point of no return – a black president doing something for black citizens (even though the vast majority of beneficiaries of Obamacare will be non-black).
I regard this development as one of the more insidious and anti-constitutional acts of racist vandalism against the American republic in my adult lifetime. Those who keep talking as if there are two sides to this, when there are not, are as much a part of the vandalism as Ted Cruz. Obama has played punctiliously by the constitutional rules – two elections, one court case – while the GOP has decided that the rules are for dummies and suckers, and throws over the board game as soon as it looks as if it is going to lose by the rules as they have always applied.
The president must therefore hold absolutely firm. This time, there can be no compromise because the GOP isn’t offering any. They’re offering the kind of constitutional surrender that would effectively end any routine operation of the American government. If we cave to their madness, we may unravel our system of government, something one might have thought conservatives would have opposed. Except these people are not conservatives. They’re vandals.
This time, the elephant must go down. And if possible, it must be so wounded it does not get up for a long time to come.
baru911
10-01-2013, 06:27 PM
Several of my friends got furloughed today. Try telling them it's a non-event.
You mean the US Gov. workers that will be paid with interest for this unscheduled leave once this ends? They might have to wait several pay periods but they will be paid. If the Gov. doesn't do it voluntarily then the Federal Unions will sue to reimburse them. They always get paid.
It is a non-event.
Seshmeister
10-01-2013, 06:50 PM
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The Nullification Party
Andrew Sullivan (http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/10/01/the-nullification-party/)
Oct 1 2013 @ 11:37am
I’ve been trying to think of something original to say about the absurdity now transpiring in Washington, DC. I’ve said roughly what I think in short; and I defer to Fallows for an important dose of reality against the predictably moronic coverage of the Washington Post.
But there is something more here. How does one party that has lost two presidential elections and a Supreme Court case – as well as two Senate elections - think it has the right to shut down the entire government and destroy the full faith and credit of the United States Treasury to get its way on universal healthcare now? I see no quid pro quo even. Just pure blackmail, resting on understandable and predictable public concern whenever a major reform is enacted. But what has to be resisted is any idea that this is government or politics as usual. It is an attack on the governance and the constitutional order of the United States.
When ideologies become as calcified, as cocooned and as extremist as those galvanizing the GOP, the American system of government cannot work. But I fear this nullification of the last two elections is a deliberate attempt to ensure that the American system of government as we have known it cannot work. It cannot, must not work, in the mindset of these radicals, because they simply do not accept the legitimacy of a President and Congress of the opposing party. The GOP does not regard the president as merely wrong – but as illegitimate. Not misguided – illegitimate. This is not about ending Obamacare as such (although that is a preliminary scalp); it is about nullifying this presidency, the way the GOP attempted to nullify the last Democratic presidency by impeachment.
Except this time, of course, we cannot deny that race too is an added factor to the fathomless sense of entitlement felt among the GOP far right. You saw it in birtherism; in the Southern GOP’s constant outrageous claims of Obama’s alleged treason and alliance with Islamist enemies; in providing zero votes for a stimulus that was the only thing that prevented a global depression of far worse proportions; in the endless race-baiting from Fox News and the talk radio right. And in this racially-charged atmosphere, providing access to private healthcare insurance to the working poor is obviously the point of no return.
Even though the law is almost identical to that of their last presidential nominee’s in Massachusetts, the GOP is prepared to destroy both the American government and the global economy to stop it. They see it, it seems to me, as both some kind of profound attack on the Constitution (something even Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts viewed as a step too far) and, in some inchoate way, as a racial hand-out, however preposterous that is. And that is at the core of the recklessness behind this attack on the US – or at least my best attempt to understand something that has long since gone beyond reason. This is the point of no return – a black president doing something for black citizens (even though the vast majority of beneficiaries of Obamacare will be non-black).
I regard this development as one of the more insidious and anti-constitutional acts of racist vandalism against the American republic in my adult lifetime. Those who keep talking as if there are two sides to this, when there are not, are as much a part of the vandalism as Ted Cruz. Obama has played punctiliously by the constitutional rules – two elections, one court case – while the GOP has decided that the rules are for dummies and suckers, and throws over the board game as soon as it looks as if it is going to lose by the rules as they have always applied.
The president must therefore hold absolutely firm. This time, there can be no compromise because the GOP isn’t offering any. They’re offering the kind of constitutional surrender that would effectively end any routine operation of the American government. If we cave to their madness, we may unravel our system of government, something one might have thought conservatives would have opposed. Except these people are not conservatives. They’re vandals.
This time, the elephant must go down. And if possible, it must be so wounded it does not get up for a long time to come.
It's worth pointing out that the guy that wrote this is a conservative who not so long ago would have been seen as at least middle if not to the right of the Republican party.
I know it's been said before but the thing that I find odd about all of this is that Obama has an absolutely clear democratic mandate for Obamacare.
If people like Cruz are saying that they don't accept the will of the people, what exactly are they saying? America needs to not have a democratically elected government any more?
Va Beach VH Fan
10-01-2013, 06:52 PM
You mean the US Gov. workers that will be paid with interest for this unscheduled leave once this ends? They might have to wait several pay periods but they will be paid. If the Gov. doesn't do it voluntarily then the Federal Unions will sue to reimburse them. They always get paid.
It is a non-event.
But in the mean time, just disregard the missed mortgage payments and every other bill then, right? Gotcha....
Va Beach VH Fan
10-01-2013, 06:54 PM
Don't look now but it'll only take 5 more Republicans to jump ship and it's over....
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/01/house-republicans-clean-cr_n_4024755.html
Here's A Tally Of Which House Republicans Are Ready To Fund The Government, No Strings Attached
Posted: 10/01/2013 4:26 pm EDT | Updated: 10/01/2013 6:24 pm EDT
WASHINGTON -- Even Tuesday afternoon, after the government has officially shut down, there's still only a handful of House Republicans ready to just pass a bill to fund the government with no strings attached.
Here's who they are, and why they say they're done with trying to force through provisions to delay or defund Obamacare in order to keep the government running. We'll update the list when, or if, more come in. It would take 17 Republicans to defect and join Democrats in passing a clean continuing resolution.
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Rep. Pat Meehan (R-Pa.): “At this point, I believe it’s time for the House to vote for a clean, short-term funding bill to bring the Senate to the table and negotiate a responsible compromise.” [Press Release, 10/1/13]
Rep. Scott Rigell (R-Va.): “Time for a clean [continuing resolution].” [Official Twitter, 10/1/13]
Rep. Jon Runyan (R-N.J.): “Enough is enough. Put a clean [continuing resolution] on the floor and let’s get on with the business we were sent to do." [Burlington County Times, 10/1/13]
Rep. Mike Fitzpatrick (R-Pa.): A Fitzpatrick aide tells the Philadelphia Inquirer the congressman would support a clean funding bill if it came up for a vote. [Philadelphia Inquirer, 10/1/13]
Rep. Lou Barletta (R-Pa.): Barletta said he would "absolutely" vote for a clean bill in order to avert a shut down of the government. [Bethlehem Morning Call, 10/1/13]
Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.): King thinks House Republicans would prefer to avoid a shutdown and said he will only vote for a clean continuing resolution to fund the government, according to the National Review Online. [NRO, 9/30/13]
Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.): The California Republican told The Huffington Post he would ultimately support a clean continuing resolution. [Tweet by The Huffington Post's Sabrina Siddiqui, 9/30/13]
Rep. Charlie Dent (R-Pa.): “I'm prepared to vote for a clean [continuing resolution].” [The Huffington Post, 9/29/13]
Rep. Frank Wolf (R-Va.): A Wolf aide told The Hill that he agrees with fellow Virginia Rep. Scott Rigell (R) that it's time for a clean continuing resolution. [The Hill, 10/1/13]
Rep. Michael Grimm (R-N.Y.): A Grimm aide told The Huffington Post that the congressman supports a clean continuing resolution. [10/1/13].
Rep. Erik Paulsen (R-Minn.): A local news anchor in Minnesota tweeted that Paulsen told him he would vote for a clean resolution if given the chance. [Blake McCoy Tweet, 10/1/13]
Rep. Rob Wittman (R-Va.): A constituent of Wittman's sent The Huffington Post an email she got from the congressman indicating he would vote for a clean funding bill but hasn't had "an opportunity to do so at this point." [10/1/13]
Seshmeister
10-01-2013, 08:15 PM
So I guess they will offer them a few billion dollars for contractors in each of their states to supply ashtrays for the F-35 Fighter who will in turn kick back tens of millions into their campaign funds.
Or as it is called these days, American exceptionalism...
It's worth pointing out that the guy that wrote this is a conservative who not so long ago would have been seen as at least middle if not to the right of the Republican party.
I know it's been said before but the thing that I find odd about all of this is that Obama has an absolutely clear democratic mandate for Obamacare.
If people like Cruz are saying that they don't accept the will of the people, what exactly are they saying? America needs to not have a democratically elected government any more?
I clearly remember Sullivan being 100% on board with the PNAC agenda up until the point when he realized that Chimp completely lied about Saddam's (non existent) WMDs.
Of course some of us knew better all along, but for a self-proclaimed "conservative" like him, it took direct evidence of stupidity in action, I guess.....
baru911
10-01-2013, 09:22 PM
But in the mean time, just disregard the missed mortgage payments and every other bill then, right? Gotcha....
If you haven’t saved at least 6 months of your expenditures in a rainy day fund in today’s work environment then you are an idiot. Of course, you’ll remind us all that governmental workers shouldn’t ever have to think about being laid off like everyone in the private sector, right? Give me a break. People need to stop living beyond their means and start SAVING for a freakin' rainy day. They happen.
If your friends had just planned for bad things to happen then they wouldn’t have any worries.
Christ, this has happened 12 times since the mid-1970’s. Didn't it occur to them it might happen again??? That's like living in a flood plain and not having flood insurance.
Look at the past, make plans based upon what has/will/and might occur, square you’re a$$ away, plan some more, save some more, move forward, and stop whining.
Nickdfresh
10-01-2013, 09:24 PM
I'm digging this whole U.S. Government shutdown. A day free from politicians...
Um, no. They're like still getting paid and stuff...
Nickdfresh
10-01-2013, 09:31 PM
You mean the US Gov. workers that will be paid with interest for this unscheduled leave once this ends? They might have to wait several pay periods but they will be paid. If the Gov. doesn't do it voluntarily then the Federal Unions will sue to reimburse them. They always get paid.
It is a non-event.
You mean costing the economy billion$ is a nonevent? Turning this country into an embarrassing circus of political dickheads trying to manage by crisis and crisis aversion. Veterans' services are going to be interfered with and its quite possible our bond rating will take another hit. It's disruptive and the height of fiscal irresponsibility...
Nickdfresh
10-01-2013, 09:36 PM
Don't look now but it'll only take 5 more Republicans to jump ship and it's over....
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/01/house-republicans-clean-cr_n_4024755.html
Here's A Tally Of Which House Republicans Are Ready To Fund The Government, No Strings Attached
Posted: 10/01/2013 4:26 pm EDT | Updated: 10/01/2013 6:24 pm EDT
WASHINGTON -- Even Tuesday afternoon, after the government has officially shut down, there's still only a handful of House Republicans ready to just pass a bill to fund the government with no strings attached.
Here's who they are, and why they say they're done with trying to force through provisions to delay or defund Obamacare in order to keep the government running. We'll update the list when, or if, more come in. It would take 17 Republicans to defect and join Democrats in passing a clean continuing resolution.
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Rep. Pat Meehan (R-Pa.): “At this point, I believe it’s time for the House to vote for a clean, short-term funding bill to bring the Senate to the table and negotiate a responsible compromise.” [Press Release, 10/1/13]
Rep. Scott Rigell (R-Va.): “Time for a clean [continuing resolution].” [Official Twitter, 10/1/13]
Rep. Jon Runyan (R-N.J.): “Enough is enough. Put a clean [continuing resolution] on the floor and let’s get on with the business we were sent to do." [Burlington County Times, 10/1/13]
Rep. Mike Fitzpatrick (R-Pa.): A Fitzpatrick aide tells the Philadelphia Inquirer the congressman would support a clean funding bill if it came up for a vote. [Philadelphia Inquirer, 10/1/13]
Rep. Lou Barletta (R-Pa.): Barletta said he would "absolutely" vote for a clean bill in order to avert a shut down of the government. [Bethlehem Morning Call, 10/1/13]
Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.): King thinks House Republicans would prefer to avoid a shutdown and said he will only vote for a clean continuing resolution to fund the government, according to the National Review Online. [NRO, 9/30/13]
Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.): The California Republican told The Huffington Post he would ultimately support a clean continuing resolution. [Tweet by The Huffington Post's Sabrina Siddiqui, 9/30/13]
Rep. Charlie Dent (R-Pa.): “I'm prepared to vote for a clean [continuing resolution].” [The Huffington Post, 9/29/13]
Rep. Frank Wolf (R-Va.): A Wolf aide told The Hill that he agrees with fellow Virginia Rep. Scott Rigell (R) that it's time for a clean continuing resolution. [The Hill, 10/1/13]
Rep. Michael Grimm (R-N.Y.): A Grimm aide told The Huffington Post that the congressman supports a clean continuing resolution. [10/1/13].
Rep. Erik Paulsen (R-Minn.): A local news anchor in Minnesota tweeted that Paulsen told him he would vote for a clean resolution if given the chance. [Blake McCoy Tweet, 10/1/13]
Rep. Rob Wittman (R-Va.): A constituent of Wittman's sent The Huffington Post an email she got from the congressman indicating he would vote for a clean funding bill but hasn't had "an opportunity to do so at this point." [10/1/13]
This is becoming a massive public relations nightmare for the GOP. They may well have driven more people into the arms of Obamacare and fucked themselves for many elections to come...
baru911
10-01-2013, 09:42 PM
Our bond rating??? Sure the governmental shutdown would be the reason for that. It would have nothing to do with our uncontrolled spending and a National Debt of $16,738,183,526,697.32. That's the US Treasury figure for the end of business today. http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current
Pull another dumbass comment out of your ass.
baru911
10-01-2013, 10:13 PM
To follow-up on my last post....
If you want to blame a governmental shutdown for a lower rating by the S&P then you live in la la land.
If the rating falls it will be due to a rise in interest rates (which the Fed has signaled is coming), lower tax revenues, and higher federal spending levels. It ain’t gonna be due to anything else. That’s accounting and economics in your 200 level college classes. You have to have money to service what you owe. We are running out of it because the federal government never attempts to limit how much gets spent nor increase how much we are all going to have to pay in taxes.
If we are all in it together then everyone is gonna have to take a smaller amount out of the pie and put a larger amount back in. Of course, no body wants any pain so our "leaders" never give us any bad news nor force us to take our medicine. Greece will happen here - only on a larger scale. Hope you all are prepared for those days.
According to the CBO borrowing to finance that deficit-in combination with an expected rise in interest rates-would lead to a fourfold increase in net interest payments over the next 10 years, from $197 billion in 2010 to $778 billion in 2020. As a percentage of GDP, net interest outlays would more than double during that period, rising from 1.4 percent to 3.4 percent. We are going to reach those numbers way before their 2020 forecast.
That makes your rating go down.
A he said/she said bull crap we’re gonna blame your party for a governmental shut down doesn’t effect how you service the debt and doesn't effect your rating with S&P.
Nickdfresh
10-01-2013, 10:53 PM
To follow-up on my last post....
If you want to blame a governmental shutdown for a lower rating by the S&P then you live in la la land.
If the rating falls it will be due to a rise in interest rates (which the Fed has signaled is coming), lower tax revenues, and higher federal spending levels. It ain’t gonna be due to anything else. That’s accounting and economics in your 200 level college classes. You have to have money to service what you owe. We are running out of it because the federal government never attempts to limit how much gets spent nor increase how much we are all going to have to pay in taxes.
If we are all in it together then everyone is gonna have to take a smaller amount out of the pie and put a larger amount back in. Of course, no body wants any pain so our "leaders" never give us any bad news nor force us to take our medicine. Greece will happen here - only on a larger scale. Hope you all are prepared for those days.
According to the CBO borrowing to finance that deficit-in combination with an expected rise in interest rates-would lead to a fourfold increase in net interest payments over the next 10 years, from $197 billion in 2010 to $778 billion in 2020. As a percentage of GDP, net interest outlays would more than double during that period, rising from 1.4 percent to 3.4 percent. We are going to reach those numbers way before their 2020 forecast.
That makes your rating go down.
A he said/she said bull crap we’re gonna blame your party for a governmental shut down doesn’t effect how you service the debt and doesn't effect your rating with S&P.
Complete fucking horseshit, and typical of your delusional, sophistic pandering:
...In a note to clients on August 16, Goldman Sachs' Alec Phillips discussed what's going on at the credit rating agencies:
Standard & Poor’s and Moody’s revised their outlook on the US rating from negative to stable earlier this summer, with AA+ and AAA ratings respectively.3 Given this, it seems unlikely that the debt limit debate would trigger negative ratings action from either agency unless Congress actually missed the deadline.
Fitch has indicated that the projected level of US debt is slightly below the level it views as inconsistent, so a downgrade from them on fiscal fundamentals appears unlikely.4 However, for now Fitch maintains a negative outlook on the rating, and noted in June that “failure to raise the federal debt ceiling in a timely manner (ie. several days prior to when the Treasury will have exhausted extraordinary measures and cash reserves) will prompt a formal review of the U.S. sovereign ratings and likely lead to a downgrade.” Fitch’s review looks likely to be completed before year end, probably after the upcoming fiscal deadlines have passed.
...
LINK (http://www.businessinsider.com/debt-ceiling-debate-and-credit-rating-2013-8#ixzz2gWrgZ9an)
jacksmar
10-02-2013, 08:37 AM
This is becoming a massive public relations nightmare for the GOP. They may well have driven more people into the arms of Obamacare and fucked themselves for many elections to come...
More than you know Nick.
Was through with these spineless assholes in 2004. The GOP won't even be the GOP in 10 years. The GOP may well be the Democrat party and Dems will simply be the Socialist Party.
Spot on.
ELVIS
10-02-2013, 08:39 AM
They're all garbage if you ask me...
baru911
10-02-2013, 11:38 AM
Complete fucking horseshit, and typical of your delusional, sophistic pandering:
Typical of your responses when faced with facts. Your original "I never think but just pull a fact out of your ass statement" was about the bond rating taking a hit due to a Gov. shutdown. Now you are attempting to cover it up and muddy the water with a quote in reference to a vote to raise the on the Debt Ceiling. That would be two entirely different things.
No one challenges you in here and you get away with Wikipedia style bullshit facts and attempts to then cover up how they are never thought out nor thought through. Sorry dude, but in typical fashion you loose when you get challenged.
More than you know Nick.
Was through with these spineless assholes in 2004. The GOP won't even be the GOP in 10 years. The GOP may well be the Democrat party and Dems will simply be the Socialist Party.
Spot on.
Where's the portal to this alternative universe you're apparently living in, Evil Jerksmear??
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1728885/evil-cartman.jpg
Because here on Earth, the Democratic party have become Republicans, and the Republican party have become batshit crazy, John Bircher extremist lunatics.
jacksmar
10-02-2013, 01:13 PM
Where's the portal to this alternative universe you're apparently living in, Evil Jerksmear??
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3f/Boston_-_Don%27t_Look_Back.jpg
The portal is down the holler and make a right at Area 51.
Truth: The prez's veto pen is stronger than he knows. Check with Reagan.
ZahZoo
10-02-2013, 03:27 PM
All this doom and gloom... geez.
Have you stopped to consider that these hundreds of thousands of "non-essential" government employees with a couple of extra days off may be out running errands, doing a little shopping, fixing a few things but overall out spending money that wouldn't have been spent had they been surfing Facebook siting in their offices..?
This may actually have a good short term effect on the over all economy!!
Please don't anyone even mention or consider... lost productivity... for Christ's sake!!
ELVIS
10-02-2013, 03:59 PM
All this doom and gloom... geez.
Have you stopped to consider that these hundreds of thousands of "non-essential" government employees with a couple of extra days off may be out running errands, doing a little shopping, fixing a few things but overall out spending money that wouldn't have been spent had they been surfing Facebook siting in their offices..?
This may actually have a good short term effect on the over all economy!!
Either you're just dumb from too much fluoride or you're a government disinformant...
No friggin' way can you be for real with the crap you post regarding the dire straits of this country...
You constantly remind me of this guy with your posts...
http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/images/_39061593_min-ap-203body.jpg
"There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!"
"My feelings - as usual - we will slaughter them all"
"Our initial assessment is that they will all die"
"I blame Al-Jazeera - they are marketing for the Americans!"
"God will roast their stomachs in hell at the hands of Iraqis."
"They're coming to surrender or be burned in their tanks."
"No I am not scared, and neither should you be!"
"Be assured. Baghdad is safe, protected"
:biggrin:
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2013/131002-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-government-shutdown.jpg
ELVIS
10-02-2013, 04:07 PM
Real Americans aren't buying the left right crap anymore, FORD...
Give it a rest...
They all belong behind bars...
Real Americans know there is a very real battle between the "left" and the "right", but that inside the beltway, the only battle is between the corporatist right and the batshit crazy extreme right. This current bullshit in Congress being the prime example of that.
As the previous graphic states, the majority of Republicans would vote for a clean resolution right now. But BONER is scared shitless of a handful of lunatic teabaggers, so he won't allow a vote.
If Nancy Pelosi wasn't such a weak jellyfish, she would take advantage of this.... get into a meeting with some of these (relatively) "sane" Republicans, and pledge the Democratic votes to any one of them who would run for Speaker of the House and get BONER's drunken crybaby Oompa Loompa ass out of there. And Likud Cantor isn't an option either.
ELVIS
10-02-2013, 04:35 PM
No way dude...
You're too wrapped up in the game...
Get some fresh air...
And watch this unrelated video, BTW...
http://youtu.be/O0lFyFJeZSY
:biggrin:
By Charles P. Pierce
Only the truly naive can be truly surprised.
Only the truly child-like can have expected anything else.
In the year of our Lord 2010, the voters of the United States elected the worst Congress in the history of the Republic. There have been Congresses more dilatory. There have been Congresses more irresponsible, though not many of them. There have been lazier Congresses, more vicious Congresses, and Congresses less capable of seeing forests for trees. But there has never been in a single Congress -- or, more precisely, in a single House of the Congress -- a more lethal combination of political ambition, political stupidity, and political vainglory than exists in this one, which has arranged to shut down the federal government because it disapproves of a law passed by a previous Congress, signed by the president, and upheld by the Supreme Court, a law that does nothing more than extend the possibility of health insurance to the millions of Americans who do not presently have it, a law based on a proposal from a conservative think-tank and taken out on the test track in Massachusetts by a Republican governor who also happens to have been the party's 2012 nominee for president of the United States. That is why the government of the United States is, in large measure, closed this morning.
We have elected the people sitting on hold, waiting for their moment on an evening drive-time radio talk show.
We have elected an ungovernable collection of snake-handlers, Bible-bangers, ignorami, bagmen and outright frauds, a collection so ungovernable that it insists the nation be ungovernable, too. We have elected people to govern us who do not believe in government.
We have elected a national legislature in which Louie Gohmert and Michele Bachmann have more power than does the Speaker of the House of Representatives, who has been made a piteous spectacle in the eyes of the country and doesn't seem to mind that at all. We have elected a national legislature in which the true power resides in a cabal of vandals, a nihilistic brigade that believes that its opposition to a bill directing millions of new customers to the nation's insurance companies is the equivalent of standing up to the Nazis in 1938, to the bravery of the passengers on Flight 93 on September 11, 2001, and to Mel Gibson's account of the Scottish Wars of Independence in the 13th Century. We have elected a national legislature that looks into the mirror and sees itself already cast in marble.
We did this. We looked at our great legacy of self-government and we handed ourselves over to the reign of morons.
This is what they came to Washington to do -- to break the government of the United States. It doesn't matter any more whether they're doing it out of pure crackpot ideology, or at the behest of the various sugar daddies that back their campaigns, or at the instigation of their party's mouthbreathing base. It may be any one of those reasons. It may be all of them. The government of the United States, in the first three words of its founding charter, belongs to all of us, and these people have broken it deliberately. The true hell of it, though, is that you could see this coming down through the years, all the way from Ronald Reagan's First Inaugural Address in which government "was" the problem, through Bill Clinton's ameliorative nonsense about the era of big government being "over," through the attempts to make a charlatan like Newt Gingrich into a scholar and an ambitious hack like Paul Ryan into a budget genius, and through all the endless attempts to find "common ground" and a "Third Way." Ultimately, as we all wrapped ourselves in good intentions, a prion disease was eating away at the country's higher functions. One of the ways you can acquire a prion disease is to eat right out of its skull the brains of an infected monkey. We are now seeing the country reeling and jabbering from the effects of the prion disease, but it was during the time of Reagan that the country ate the monkey brains.
What is there to be done? The first and most important thing is to recognize how we came to this pass. Both sides did not do this. Both sides are not to blame. There is no compromise to be had here that will leave the current structure of the government intact. There can be no reward for this behavior. I am less sanguine than are many people that this whole thing will redound to the credit of the Democratic party. For that to happen, the country would have to make a nuanced judgment over who is to blame that, I believe, will be discouraged by the courtier press of the Beltway and that, in any case, the country has not shown itself capable of making. For that to happen, the Democratic party would have to be demonstrably ruthless enough to risk its own political standing to make the point, which the Democratic party never has shown itself capable of doing. With the vandals tucked away in safe, gerrymandered districts, and their control over state governments probably unshaken by events in Washington, there will be no great wave election that sweeps them out of power. I do not see profound political consequences for enough of them to change the character of a Congress gone delusional. The only real consequences will be felt by the millions of people affected by what this Congress has forced upon the nation, which was the whole point all along.
Among other things, the Library Of Congress is closed as a result of what the vandals have done. Padlock study and intellect. Wander aimlessly down the mall among the shuttered monuments to self-government. Find yourself a food truck that serves monkey brains. Eat your fucking fill.
Link (http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/Shutdown_Blues)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0oNf1b2KWk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA3I4HAvgUs
What happens when you put a turtle and a Randtard in front of a live mic........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eziI4h3J0Eg
Nickdfresh
10-04-2013, 06:34 AM
Typical of your responses when faced with facts. Your original "I never think but just pull a fact out of your ass statement" was about the bond rating taking a hit due to a Gov. shutdown. Now you are attempting to cover it up and muddy the water with a quote in reference to a vote to raise the on the Debt Ceiling. That would be two entirely different things.
Dude, where did you Google those "facts" you cut and pasted without attribution? I said it was "quite possible", but here's an actual attributed quote for you, plagiarist dummy.:
01 Oct 2013 10:01 AM
US Debt Ceiling in Focus After Government Shutdown
Fitch Ratings-London-01 October 2013: The US government shutdown is not in itself a downgrade trigger for the sovereign's 'AAA'/Negative rating. However, it undermines confidence in both the budgetary process and critically in the prospect of the debt ceiling being raised in a timely manner to avert the risk of default on US sovereign debt obligations, says Fitch Ratings in a reiteration of its June 28 rating commentary.
...
LINK (http://www.fitchratings.com/gws/en/fitchwire/fitchwirearticle/US-Debt-Ceiling?pr_id=803756&cm_sp=homepage-_-FitchWire-_-%20US%20Debt%20Ceiling%20in%20Focus%20After%20Gove rnment%20Shutdown)
You're the dick crowing how "it's not big deal," and that gov't workers should "suck it!" Typical enabler blowing the scummy Republican leadership. But remember, they're "all the same"...
No one challenges you in here and you get away with Wikipedia style bullshit facts and attempts to then cover up how they are never thought out nor thought through. Sorry dude, but in typical fashion you loose when you get challenged.
I haven't quoted Wiki. But when I do, at least I attribute it unlike you, plagiarist cunt! Now go back to sucking the Boehner's dick and pretending that "it's no big deal." Asshole. Take your rainy day fund and fuck yourself with it...
But, should we raise the debt ceiling?
Nickdfresh
10-04-2013, 06:39 AM
Real Americans aren't buying the left right crap anymore, FORD...
Give it a rest...
They all belong behind bars...
Dude, you're like one step away from stockpiling automatic weapons, moving to a compound, and giving your wife to your new cult leader, er, "pastor" for a weekly Jesus-penis cleansing...
Nickdfresh
10-04-2013, 06:47 AM
What happens when you put a turtle and a Randtard in front of a live mic........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eziI4h3J0Eg
TOTAL. SCUMBAG. JERKOFFS!! :cussing: Rand Paul, the libertarian enjoying his bloated gov't salary and free gov't health care! Cunt!
Nickdfresh
10-04-2013, 06:51 AM
Either you're just dumb from too much fluoride or you're a government disinformant...
No friggin' way can you be for real with the crap you post regarding the dire straits of this country...
You constantly remind me of this guy with your posts...
http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/images/_39061593_min-ap-203body.jpg
"There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!"
"My feelings - as usual - we will slaughter them all"
"Our initial assessment is that they will all die"
"I blame Al-Jazeera - they are marketing for the Americans!"
"God will roast their stomachs in hell at the hands of Iraqis."
"They're coming to surrender or be burned in their tanks."
"No I am not scared, and neither should you be!"
"Be assured. Baghdad is safe, protected"
:biggrin:
LOL ZahZoo and I barely get a long, but you calling him out as Baghdad Bob is pretty fucking delusional since you listen and regurgitate Baghdad Alex every day of your life. Pot tea kettle, dipshit! Did I just call you black? Oh, sorry! That's pretty tough for a white supremacist!
Nitro Express
10-04-2013, 07:32 AM
TOTAL. SCUMBAG. JERKOFFS!! :cussing: Rand Paul, the libertarian enjoying his bloated gov't salary and free gov't health care! Cunt!
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid enjoy those perks too. Nancy really enjoyed using government jets free of charge.
Seshmeister
10-04-2013, 07:32 AM
https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1374069_10151937245835883_1423544249_n.jpg :)
Nitro Express
10-04-2013, 07:36 AM
What happens when you put a turtle and a Randtard in front of a live mic........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eziI4h3J0Eg
What's the big secret? Nothing we already didn't know.
Nitro Express
10-04-2013, 07:37 AM
https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1374069_10151937245835883_1423544249_n.jpg :)
Which America? North America or South America?
Angel
10-04-2013, 08:36 AM
Which America? North America or South America?
That is why we Canucks refer to you as the States. Canada's government is doing just fine, still oppressing as many marginalized groups as they can!
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2013/131004-shutdown-day-4-boo-frickin-hoo.jpg
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoons/FellP/2013/FellP20131004_low.jpg
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoons/MarguJ/2013/MarguJ20131004A_low.jpg
http://www.creators.com/editorial_cartoons/1/27519_thumb.gif
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoons/SmithM/2013/SmithM20131004_low.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKiQp-RB0Yw#t=32
Seshmeister
10-04-2013, 09:33 PM
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoons/SmithM/2013/SmithM20131004_low.jpg
People seem to keep mentioning the National Parks, I would be a bit more worried about the closure of the Centre for Disease Control(CDC) and E-Verify, the system that lets employers check for illegal immigrants. WTF?
Another little factoid - did you know that on average people in Congress have a 90% chance of re election?
Yeah, closing the CDC in October was a genius move. It's the "traditional" start of flu season.
And there's a Hurricane off the Gulf Coast right now which seemed to be following the same trajectory as Katrina. So ELVIS might get to experience a government shutdown up close and personal, without NOAA to inform him about the hurricane, or FEMA to clean up after it.
And Piyush Jindal will beg for the money, of course........
ELVIS
10-04-2013, 10:08 PM
FEMA and the CDC can rot in hell...
I don't and won't need federal government assistance, ever, sheep...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn_P6bkNB5c
ELVIS
10-04-2013, 10:18 PM
I never knew you were this sold out...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiDLxsT3OpQ
Satan
10-05-2013, 03:09 PM
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2013/131004-shutdown-day-5-wtf.jpg
Satan
10-05-2013, 03:17 PM
http://i41.tinypic.com/2i7v9d3.jpg
Satan
10-05-2013, 03:20 PM
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/07/08/opinion/sunday/the-strip-slide-67KP/the-strip-slide-67KP-jumbo.png
Seshmeister
10-05-2013, 03:27 PM
http://www.astrowatch.net/2013/10/russian-pirates-offer-nasa-help-in.html
Russian ‘Pirates’ Offer NASA Help in Times of Crisis
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RPxguHliy_M/Uk_eHQfW_3I/AAAAAAAAbwE/s7zC4g0Uuac/s640/172537600.jpg
The Pirate Party of Russia has offered NASA the use of its dedicated servers to temporarily host the US space agency’s website as it has been shut down “due to the lapse in federal government funding.” NASA was supposed to be marking its 55th birthday this week, but the US space agency gave furlough notices, not birthday invitations, to nearly all of its 18,000 employees, and began fretting about future missions as funding dried up with the US government shutdown.
“We would like to offer you bulletproof collocation or dedicated servers on our hosting platform till the end of the crisis,” the Pirate Party said in a statement posted on its website Thursday.
“We stand for Internet privacy, and as the result you would not have to worry about programs such as PRISM and other illegal activities of secret services of different countries. Your traffic, your activity and the activity of your users will be in safety,” the statement said.
The Pirate Party, founded in 2009, is active in Russia as a public movement, but the Justice Ministry has refused to register it as a political party, claiming that the name “pirate” is a reference to a criminal offense.
It claims representation in 48 regions of Russia with 5,000 applicants and at least 30,000 supporters. The stated goals of the party include promoting e-democracy, the freedom of information and the protection of personal privacy.
The party reportedly operates on a monthly budget of 6,000 rubles ($200) and a dedicated grassroots effort.
Seshmeister
10-05-2013, 03:31 PM
Dude, you're like one step away from stockpiling automatic weapons, moving to a compound, and giving your wife to your new cult leader, er, "pastor" for a weekly Jesus-penis cleansing...
ELVIS is on 3 year cycles of telling us all that he has found the meaning of life the universe and everything and then realizing he's talking shit and moving on to the next more crazy cult. ASSuming that he has already started the with the latest then I guess full on KORESH sheep is less than 3 years away.
Satan
10-05-2013, 03:37 PM
AAARRRRGGGH, ya scurvy Capitalist dogs!
Fifteen men on a dead man's chest
Yo ho ho and a bottle of vodka.....
Or better yet.... translate this into Russian......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvsdlIY9sJw
Satan
10-05-2013, 03:45 PM
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoons/AnderN/2013/AnderN20131004A_low.jpg
Satan
10-05-2013, 03:48 PM
http://media.cagle.com/205/2013/10/04/138419_600.jpg
Nickdfresh
10-05-2013, 03:55 PM
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/07/08/opinion/sunday/the-strip-slide-67KP/the-strip-slide-67KP-jumbo.png
The general consensus about Bohner I keep hearing is that he isn't particularity hard right and is closer to the center than most of his fringe nutbag party, but is just a terrible leader that cannot keep his party's caucus in line...
Nickdfresh
10-05-2013, 03:57 PM
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid enjoy those perks too. Nancy really enjoyed using government jets free of charge.
Of course they do! The point would be is that they aren't the extremists here shutting down the gov't to repeal a constitutionally passed law...
Satan
10-05-2013, 04:27 PM
The general consensus about Bohner I keep hearing is that he isn't particularity hard right and is closer to the center than most of his fringe nutbag party, but is just a terrible leader that cannot keep his party's caucus in line...
Yeah, he's not actually a teabagger himself, he's just a crybaby coward. The teabaggers are actually a minority even within the Repuke house, and all BONER would have to do is put a clean bill up for a vote, knowing damn well that he would have enough votes from the Democrats and the "sane" Repukes to pass it easily. But he's chickenshit of a teabagger primary challenge.
Satan
10-05-2013, 08:04 PM
FEMA and the CDC can rot in hell...
I don't and won't need federal government assistance, ever, sheep...
So what's your idea of a health care plan then?
Is it PatCare??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wur_jxYG4-E
ELVIS
10-05-2013, 09:06 PM
So what's your idea of a health care plan then?
To follow every word of God...
How else do you think the men of the Bible lived to be so old ??
Satan
10-05-2013, 09:33 PM
To follow every word of God...
How else do you think the men of the Bible lived to be so old ??
But I'm the Devil and I outlived all of them. So does that mean you should follow me? http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d010.gif
ashstralia
10-06-2013, 12:06 AM
Elbow, you should read 'Chariots of the gods'. It's a far more plausible account of ancient history.
Dr. Love
10-06-2013, 04:35 AM
Any bets on how long this will last?
Seshmeister
10-06-2013, 05:48 AM
To follow every word of God...
How else do you think the men of the Bible lived to be so old ??
http://postnoon.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/ROFL.jpg
ELVIS
10-06-2013, 08:31 AM
Any bets on how long this will last?
My reign here at the Army ??
Not very...
ELVIS
10-06-2013, 08:35 AM
Elbow, you should read 'Chariots of the gods'. It's a far more plausible account of ancient history.
I'm not looking to study ancient history...
But you should read The hillbilly dictator: Australia's police state...
:elvis:
Nickdfresh
10-06-2013, 08:36 AM
My reign here at the Army ??
Not very...
You should start another goodbye thread, then post for the next six months...
ELVIS
10-06-2013, 08:56 AM
You should get on your knees before almighty God and tell Him you're sorry for being a douchebag...
Angel
10-06-2013, 09:17 AM
You should get on your knees before almighty God and tell Him you're sorry for being a douchebag...
You should start practicing what you preach...
ELVIS
10-06-2013, 09:42 AM
You should shaddup and see the you should thread...
Nickdfresh
10-06-2013, 09:52 AM
You should get on your knees before almighty God and tell Him you're sorry for being a douchebag...
Why would a God need me on my knees and tell him anything? He's all knowing! Maybe she thinks you're a fucking self-righteous, vain douchebag and wants you to stop embarrassing it with the constant name dropping?
ELVIS
10-06-2013, 10:28 AM
Why would a God need me on my knees and tell him anything?
To acknowledge that He is God and you are not, for one thing...
Personally, I kneel before God in reverence to Him with a respectful, submissive attitude...
Reverence to God is the beginning of wisdom...
Kristy
10-06-2013, 11:20 AM
Enough with the proselytizing!
Satan
10-06-2013, 11:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HSIulV5lMg
ELVIS
10-06-2013, 11:34 AM
Enough with the proselytizing!
It makes your flesh crawl, doesn't it ??
Nickdfresh
10-06-2013, 12:20 PM
To acknowledge that He is God and you are not, for one thing...
Personally, I kneel before God in reverence to Him with a respectful, submissive attitude...
Reverence to God is the beginning of wisdom...
Yay! Then maybe I can be a complete racist, hypocritical, mean-spirited and negative asshole like you whom actually acts like a "god" through his incessant judging of everyone else. Go Jebus! :thumb:
It makes your flesh crawl, doesn't it ??
http://murderpedia.org/male.J/images/jones_jim/jim_jones_201.jpg
Here's another "unworldly Christen" (i.e. we can selectively belief whatever we want and dismiss the inconvenient shit)...
Satan
10-06-2013, 12:36 PM
Let's put it this way..... I never let Jim Jones buy me a drink! http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d025.gif
ELVIS
10-06-2013, 02:46 PM
Jim Jones was likely a CIA operative...
Link! (http://www.whale.to/b/jonestown1.html)
:elvis:
Nickdfresh
10-06-2013, 05:16 PM
Jim Jones was likely a CIA operative...
Link! (http://www.whale.to/b/jonestown1.html)
:elvis:
http://earthriderdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/gullible-state-farm-ad-french-model.jpg
Seshmeister
10-06-2013, 07:45 PM
Jim Jones was likely a CIA operative...
Link! (http://www.whale.to/b/jonestown1.html)
:elvis:
Wow that really is the mothership of a dogturd of a website.
It's like someone asking you how you know something and you taking your thumb, jamming it up your ass and then presenting it to them - 'Dats how ah know boy!' :D
Kristy
10-06-2013, 08:02 PM
My browser flags it as "unethical and misleading" Deffo one for the Alex Jone$ crowd.
ELVIS
10-06-2013, 08:03 PM
Who cares ??
http://youtu.be/HULqx4SP46Y
Seshmeister
10-06-2013, 09:08 PM
I think the real question is why are you so frightened all the time?
Why are you so terrified of death that you need to invent an invisible friend?
Why are you so terrified of life that you see conspiracies and plots every where you look?
Why are you so terrified that someone is going to take away the relatively modest amount you have?
Why are you so terrified you can't just enjoy the privilege of being lucky enough to live now and in a 1st world country?
I would understand this if you were still going through some sort of cold turkey thing but come on it's been many years now. Have you thought of talking to someone?
ELVIS
10-06-2013, 10:27 PM
You're of quite limited scope...:biggrin:
ashstralia
10-06-2013, 10:59 PM
Meanwhile, our economy is booming. I love living in my police state! I'm having a great year!!
Thangyaverramush....
Kristy
10-06-2013, 11:14 PM
You're of quite limited scope...:biggrin:
Put it this way, even with all the weed I smoke could I ever be as paranoid as you.
Satan
10-07-2013, 08:08 PM
NY Times
October 5, 2013
A Federal Budget Crisis Months in the Planning
By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG and MIKE McINTIRE
WASHINGTON — Shortly after President Obama started his second term, a loose-knit coalition of conservative activists led by former Attorney General Edwin Meese III gathered in the capital to plot strategy. Their push to repeal Mr. Obama’s health care law was going nowhere, and they desperately needed a new plan.
Out of that session, held one morning in a location the members insist on keeping secret, came a little-noticed “blueprint to defunding Obamacare,” signed by Mr. Meese and leaders of more than three dozen conservative groups.
It articulated a take-no-prisoners legislative strategy that had long percolated in conservative circles: that Republicans could derail the health care overhaul if conservative lawmakers were willing to push fellow Republicans — including their cautious leaders — into cutting off financing for the entire federal government.
“We felt very strongly at the start of this year that the House needed to use the power of the purse,” said one coalition member, Michael A. Needham, who runs Heritage Action for America, the political arm of the Heritage Foundation. “At least at Heritage Action, we felt very strongly from the start that this was a fight that we were going to pick.”
Last week the country witnessed the fallout from that strategy: a standoff that has shuttered much of the federal bureaucracy and unsettled the nation.
To many Americans, the shutdown came out of nowhere. But interviews with a wide array of conservatives show that the confrontation that precipitated the crisis was the outgrowth of a long-running effort to undo the law, the Affordable Care Act, since its passage in 2010 — waged by a galaxy of conservative groups with more money, organized tactics and interconnections than is commonly known.
With polls showing Americans deeply divided over the law, conservatives believe that the public is behind them. Although the law’s opponents say that shutting down the government was not their objective, the activists anticipated that a shutdown could occur — and worked with members of the Tea Party caucus in Congress who were excited about drawing a red line against a law they despise.
A defunding “tool kit” created in early September included talking points for the question, “What happens when you shut down the government and you are blamed for it?” The suggested answer was the one House Republicans give today: “We are simply calling to fund the entire government except for the Affordable Care Act/Obamacare.”
The current budget brinkmanship is just the latest development in a well-financed, broad-based assault on the health law, Mr. Obama’s signature legislative initiative. Groups like Tea Party Patriots, Americans for Prosperity and FreedomWorks are all immersed in the fight, as is Club for Growth, a business-backed nonprofit organization. Some, like Generation Opportunity and Young Americans for Liberty, both aimed at young adults, are upstarts. Heritage Action is new, too, founded in 2010 to advance the policy prescriptions of its sister group, the Heritage Foundation.
The billionaire Koch brothers, Charles and David, have been deeply involved with financing the overall effort. A group linked to the Kochs, Freedom Partners Chamber of Commerce, disbursed more than $200 million last year to nonprofit organizations involved in the fight. Included was $5 million to Generation Opportunity, which created a buzz last month with an Internet advertisement showing a menacing Uncle Sam figure popping up between a woman’s legs during a gynecological exam.
The groups have also sought to pressure vulnerable Republican members of Congress with scorecards keeping track of their health care votes; have burned faux “Obamacare cards” on college campuses; and have distributed scripts for phone calls to Congressional offices, sample letters to editors and Twitter and Facebook offerings for followers to present as their own.
One sample Twitter offering — “Obamacare is a train wreck” — is a common refrain for Speaker John A. Boehner.
As the defunding movement picked up steam among outside advocates, Republicans who sounded tepid became targets. The Senate Conservatives Fund, a political action committee dedicated to “electing true conservatives,” ran radio advertisements against three Republican incumbents.
Heritage Action ran critical Internet advertisements in the districts of 100 Republican lawmakers who had failed to sign a letter by a North Carolina freshman, Representative Mark Meadows, urging Mr. Boehner to take up the defunding cause.
“They’ve been hugely influential,” said David Wasserman, who tracks House races for the nonpartisan Cook Political Report. “When else in our history has a freshman member of Congress from North Carolina been able to round up a gang of 80 that’s essentially ground the government to a halt?”
On Capitol Hill, the advocates found willing partners in Tea Party conservatives, who have repeatedly threatened to shut down the government if they do not get their way on spending issues. This time they said they were so alarmed by the health law that they were willing to risk a shutdown over it. (“This is exactly what the public wants,” Representative Michele Bachmann of Minnesota, founder of the House Tea Party Caucus, said on the eve of the shutdown.)
Despite Mrs. Bachmann’s comments, not all of the groups have been on board with the defunding campaign. Some, like the Koch-financed Americans for Prosperity, which spent $5.5 million on health care television advertisements over the past three months, are more focused on sowing public doubts about the law. But all have a common goal, which is to cripple a measure that Senator Ted Cruz, a Texas Republican and leader of the defunding effort, has likened to a horror movie.
“We view this as a long-term effort,” said Tim Phillips, the president of Americans for Prosperity. He said his group expected to spend “tens of millions” of dollars on a “multifront effort” that includes working to prevent states from expanding Medicaid under the law. The group’s goal is not to defund the law.
“We want to see this law repealed,” Mr. Phillips said.
A Familiar Tactic
The crowd was raucous at the Hilton Anatole, just north of downtown Dallas, when Mr. Needham’s group, Heritage Action, arrived on a Tuesday in August for the second stop on a nine-city “Defund Obamacare Town Hall Tour.” Nearly 1,000 people turned out to hear two stars of the Tea Party movement: Mr. Cruz, and Jim DeMint, a former South Carolina senator who runs the Heritage Foundation.
“You’re here because now is the single best time we have to defund Obamacare,” declared Mr. Cruz, who would go on to rail against the law on the Senate floor in September with a monologue that ran for 21 hours. “This is a fight we can win.”
Although Mr. Cruz is new to the Senate, the tactic of defunding in Washington is not. For years, Congress has banned the use of certain federal money to pay for abortions, except in the case of incest and rape, by attaching the so-called Hyde Amendment to spending bills.
After the health law passed in 2010, Todd Tiahrt, then a Republican congressman from Kansas, proposed defunding bits and pieces of it. He said he spoke to Mr. Boehner’s staff about the idea while the Supreme Court, which upheld the central provision, was weighing the law’s constitutionality.
“There just wasn’t the appetite for it at the time,” Mr. Tiahrt said in an interview. “They thought, we don’t need to worry about it because the Supreme Court will strike it down.”
But the idea of using the appropriations process to defund an entire federal program, particularly one as far-reaching as the health care overhaul, raised the stakes considerably. In an interview, Mr. DeMint, who left the Senate to join the Heritage Foundation in January, said he had been thinking about it since the law’s passage, in part because Republican leaders were not more aggressive.
“They’ve been through a series of C.R.s and debt limits,” Mr. DeMint said, referring to continuing resolutions on spending, “and all the time there was discussion of ‘O.K., we’re not going to fight the Obamacare fight, we’ll do it next time.’ The conservatives who ran in 2010 promising to repeal it kept hearing, ‘This is not the right time to fight this battle.’ ”
Mr. DeMint is hardly alone in his distaste for the health law, or his willingness to do something about it. In the three years since Mr. Obama signed the health measure, Tea Party-inspired groups have mobilized, aided by a financing network that continues to grow, both in its complexity and the sheer amount of money that flows through it.
A review of tax records, campaign finance reports and corporate filings shows that hundreds of millions of dollars have been raised and spent since 2012 by organizations, many of them loosely connected, leading opposition to the measure.
One of the biggest sources of conservative money is Freedom Partners, a tax-exempt “business league” that claims more than 200 members, each of whom pays at least $100,000 in dues. The group’s board is headed by a longtime executive of Koch Industries, the conglomerate run by the Koch brothers, who were among the original financiers of the Tea Party movement. The Kochs declined to comment.
While Freedom Partners has financed organizations that are pushing to defund the law, like Heritage Action and Tea Party Patriots, Freedom Partners has not advocated that. A spokesman for the group, James Davis, said it was more focused on “educating Americans around the country on the negative impacts of Obamacare.”
The largest recipient of Freedom Partners cash — about $115 million — was the Center to Protect Patient Rights, according to the groups’ latest tax filings. Run by a political consultant with ties to the Kochs and listing an Arizona post office box for its address, the center appears to be little more than a clearinghouse for donations to still more groups, including American Commitment and the 60 Plus Association, both ardent foes of the health care law.
American Commitment and 60 Plus were among a handful of groups calling themselves the “Repeal Coalition” that sent a letter in August urging Republican leaders in the House and the Senate to insist “at a minimum” in a one-year delay of carrying out the health care law as part of any budget deal. Another group, the Conservative 50 Plus Alliance, delivered a defunding petition with 68,700 signatures to the Senate.
In the fight to shape public opinion, conservatives face well-organized liberal foes. Enroll America, a nonprofit group allied with the Obama White House, is waging a campaign to persuade millions of the uninsured to buy coverage. The law’s supporters are also getting huge assistance from the insurance industry, which is expected to spend $1 billion on advertising to help sell its plans on the exchanges.
“It is David versus Goliath,” said Mr. Phillips of Americans for Prosperity.
But conservatives are finding that with relatively small advertising buys, they can make a splash. Generation Opportunity, the youth-oriented outfit behind the “Creepy Uncle Sam” ads, is spending $750,000 on that effort, aimed at dissuading young people — a cohort critical to the success of the health care overhaul — from signing up for insurance under the new law.
The group receives substantial backing from Freedom Partners and appears ready to expand. Recently, Generation Opportunity moved into spacious new offices in Arlington, Va., where exposed ductwork, Ikea chairs and a Ping-Pong table give off the feel of a Silicon Valley start-up.
Its executive director, Evan Feinberg, a 29-year-old former Capitol Hill aide and onetime instructor for a leadership institute founded by Charles Koch, said there would be more Uncle Sam ads, coupled with college campus visits, this fall. Two other groups, FreedomWorks, with its “Burn Your Obamacare Card” protests, and Young Americans for Liberty, are also running campus events.
“A lot of folks have asked us, ‘Are we trying to sabotage the law?’ ” Mr. Feinberg said in an interview last week. His answer echoes the Freedom Partners philosophy: “Our goal is to educate and empower young people.”
Critical Timing
But many on the Republican right wanted to do more.
Mr. Meese’s low-profile coalition, the Conservative Action Project, which seeks to find common ground among leaders of an array of fiscally and socially conservative groups, was looking ahead to last Tuesday, when the new online health insurance marketplaces, called exchanges, were set to open. If the law took full effect as planned, many conservatives feared, it would be nearly impossible to repeal — even if a Republican president were elected in 2016.
“I think people realized that with the imminent beginning of Obamacare, that this was a critical time to make every effort to stop something,” Mr. Meese said in an interview. (He has since stepped down as the coalition’s chairman and has been succeeded by David McIntosh, a former congressman from Indiana.)
The defunding idea, Mr. Meese said, was “a logical strategy.” The idea drew broad support. Fiscal conservatives like Chris Chocola, the president of the Club for Growth, signed on to the blueprint. So did social and religious conservatives, like the Rev. Lou Sheldon of the Traditional Values Coalition.
The document set a target date: March 27, when a continuing resolution allowing the government to function was to expire. Its message was direct: “Conservatives should not approve a C.R. unless it defunds Obamacare.”
But the March date came and went without a defunding struggle. In the Senate, Mr. Cruz and Senator Mike Lee, a Utah Republican, talked up the defunding idea, but it went nowhere in the Democratic-controlled chamber. In the House, Mr. Boehner wanted to concentrate instead on locking in the across-the-board budget cuts known as sequestration, and Tea Party lawmakers followed his lead. Outside advocates were unhappy but held their fire.
“We didn’t cause any trouble,” Mr. Chocola said.
Yet by summer, with an August recess looming and another temporary spending bill expiring at the end of September, the groups were done waiting.
“I remember talking to reporters at the end of July, and they said, ‘This didn’t go anywhere,’ ” Mr. Needham recalled. “What all of us felt at the time was, this was never going to be a strategy that was going to win inside the Beltway. It was going to be a strategy where, during August, people would go home and hear from their constituents, saying: ‘You pledged to do everything you could to stop Obamacare. Will you defund it?’ ”
Heritage Action, which has trained 6,000 people it calls sentinels around the country, sent them to open meetings and other events to confront their elected representatives. Its “Defund Obamacare Town Hall Tour,” which began in Fayetteville, Ark., on Aug. 19 and ended 10 days later in Wilmington, Del., drew hundreds at every stop.
The Senate Conservatives Fund, led by Mr. DeMint when he was in the Senate, put up a Web site in July called dontfundobamacare.com and ran television ads featuring Mr. Cruz and Mr. Lee urging people to tell their representatives not to fund the law.
When Senator Richard M. Burr, a North Carolina Republican, told a reporter that defunding the law was “the dumbest idea I’ve ever heard,” the fund bought a radio ad to attack him. Two other Republican senators up for re-election in 2014, Lamar Alexander of Tennessee and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, were also targeted. Both face Tea Party challengers.
In Washington, Tea Party Patriots, which created the defunding tool kit, set up a Web site, exemptamerica.com, to promote a rally last month showcasing many of the Republicans in Congress whom Democrats — and a number of fellow Republicans — say are most responsible for the shutdown.
While conservatives believe that the public will back them on defunding, a recent poll by the Kaiser Family Foundation found that a majority — 57 percent — disapproves of cutting off funding as a way to stop the law.
Last week, with the health care exchanges open for business and a number of prominent Republicans complaining that the “Defund Obamacare” strategy was politically damaging and pointless, Mr. Needham of Heritage Action said he felt good about what the groups had accomplished.
“It really was a groundswell,” he said, “that changed Washington from the outside in.”
Satan
10-07-2013, 08:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNj8bpY2PEY#t=423
Satan
10-07-2013, 08:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LC_4h8rk9E
Satan
10-07-2013, 11:12 PM
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Satan
10-07-2013, 11:37 PM
Here's a page full of inbreds who will soon be tweeting from prison.......
http://publicshaming.tumblr.com/post/62927287232/people-who-will-soon-be-visited-by-the-secret-service
Unholy shit.... if you're going to make violent threats against somebody, at least direct them towards the son of an Orange bitch who is actually to blame. Or the Stalin funded John Bircher bastards who are paying for it. Fortunately, it matters not to a Devil who kills those treasonous fucks or how they do it. After that, I get them either way. http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d010.gif
Satan
10-07-2013, 11:52 PM
http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2013/10/07/untitled.jpg
Website Offers Furloughed Employees Free Vibrators During Government Shutdown
By Jill Heller
on October 07 2013 3:19 PM
The government shutdown might be killing the vibes of furloughed Federal employees, but one website hopes to change that. Vibrators.com, a website that bills itself as “the easiest way to find the perfect vibrator,” is offering its merchandise free of charge to any nonessential government workers.
“Are you a federal employee that has been deemed non-essential? Do you have a little too much time on your hands and nothing to do? Is the recent government shutdown to blame?” the company asks in an announcement on their website. “As vibrator enthusiasts, we want everyone to experience the pleasure that a nice vibrator can bring to partners and individuals. Besides, we know you have some free time, why not try something new?”
The company is right about one thing: According to the Washington Post, at least 450,000 federal employees remained on furlough Monday as the government shutdown entered its second week. In a rare move on Saturday, the House voted unanimously to approve back pay for furloughed employees once the shutdown ends.
But in the meantime -- while supplies last -- the company is offering eligible applicants a “free vibe,” which typically retails for $9.99, for as long as the government shutdown continues. Features include complimentary shipping conducted with the “utmost privacy and discretion.”
There is a catch, however: Due to delivery schedules, the website can’t ship more than 200 vibrators a day. Although the company doesn’t stipulate precisely how they intend to make sure that their giveaway vibrators are going to furloughed employees, they do ask that potential recipients follow the honor system, writing in a note at the bottom of the page, “To the person from Staten Island, N.Y., who has tried to order 6 free vibrators, please go away. We don't give vibrators to greedy people. Besides, what were you going to do with 6 identical vibrators? Don't answer that question.”
Jill Heller (http://www.ibtimes.com/website-offers-furloughed-employees-free-vibrators-during-government-shutdown-1415988)
Satan
10-08-2013, 12:40 PM
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2013/131008-shutdown-day-8-priorities.jpg
Satan
10-08-2013, 01:21 PM
Lock up these teabagging felons.......
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BV7RZeECQAAh24M.jpg
Satan
10-08-2013, 03:15 PM
NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE
October 8, 2013 12:54 PM
Boehner: Democrats Want to 'Annihilate Us'
By Jonathan Strong
Speaker John Boehner rallied his troops this morning at a closed-door conference meeting at the Capitol. Democrats are trying to “annihilate us,” he told his members. “We can get through this if we stick together.” :guzzle:
The Ohio Republican added that a “grand bargain” is off the table. What he wants is something that “builds on the gains we’ve made over the past three years, puts points on the board, and doesn’t raise taxes.” :beers:
Though much press has been given to a group of moderates who are feeling the heat from voters over the shutdown and pushing for a “clean” continuing resolution (CR), Boehner has moved to quiet their concerns. Several Republicans listed in media whip counts over the past few days have recanted, and any building concerns about strategy and direction are staying private, for now.
“We’re united as a party,” says Representative Justin Amash of Michigan, who has often warred with Boehner. “We’re sending over bills with almost unanimous Republican support and we’re pulling over 20, 30 sometimes 40 Democrats on these individual bills. We feel like we’re making quite a bit of headway,” he adds.
Republicans’ spines stiffened yesterday when a top White House official said at an event that President Obama’s goal was to set a precedent against negotiating over the debt ceiling.
“The president sent strong signals to us which we find offensive,” says Representative Pete Sessions of Texas, the chairman of the House Rules Committee. “He’s not a dictator. We have a constitution,” he adds. “It’s unreasonable and very selfish,” adds Representative Jason Chaffetz of Utah about the Democrats’ reticence. :meinsmiley:
The GOP’s play, announced by Cantor at the meeting, is to push for a bicameral commission that brought comparisons to the “supercommittee” from the 2011 Budget Control Act (“please don’t remind me,” said House Ways and Means Chairman Dave Camp when a reporter mentioned his involvement in that doomed panel).
The panel’s creation will be tied to a bill dealing with federal employees’ paychecks, something Republicans hope will entice Democrats.
“What we’re learning about Democrats is they’re very concerned about federal workers. That’s a big constituency for them . . . I think that’s a leverage point to get them to the negotiating table,” says Representative John Fleming of Lousiana.
The idea struck even some Republicans as gimmicky, but leadership is using any means available to get Obama and Senate majority leader Harry Reid to break their vows against negotiating.
“The clock is ticking. We’re running out of time, and the default is next Wednesday. It takes some time to get these bills processed through the system. We’re all running out of time and the Senate is sitting there doodling,” Appropriations chairman Hal Rogers tells me. “The Congress holds the power of the purse and yet he disdainfully ignores us,” he adds.
When asked why the latest gambit will force Obama to the table when the threat of an impending default has not, House Republicans say the tide is turning in the minds of the public.
“I think the American people are watching an unwillingness by one side to negotiate and compromise. I think they are watching the utterly vindictive actions of the administration to intensify the pain of the shutdown and I think they are watching the collapse of the administration’s signature program, Obamacare, as it unrolls and unravels before our very eyes,” says Representative Tom McClintock of California. ”The public awakening to what is happening here is going to ultimately compel the Democrats to negotiate and compromise.”
“We want to negotiate. Where’s Harry? It’s kind of like that game Where’s Waldo. Harry, where are you? They need to come to the table. The American people demand it,” says Representative Ted Yoho of Florida. :sheepshagger:
Satan
10-09-2013, 01:56 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiHj872MYNE#t=110
Nickdfresh
10-09-2013, 07:00 AM
http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2013/10/07/untitled.jpg
Website Offers Furloughed Employees Free Vibrators During Government Shutdown
By Jill Heller
on October 07 2013 3:19 PM
The government shutdown might be killing the vibes of furloughed Federal employees, but one website hopes to change that. Vibrators.com, a website that bills itself as “the easiest way to find the perfect vibrator,” is offering its merchandise free of charge to any nonessential government workers.
“Are you a federal employee that has been deemed non-essential? Do you have a little too much time on your hands and nothing to do? Is the recent government shutdown to blame?” the company asks in an announcement on their website. “As vibrator enthusiasts, we want everyone to experience the pleasure that a nice vibrator can bring to partners and individuals. Besides, we know you have some free time, why not try something new?”
The company is right about one thing: According to the Washington Post, at least 450,000 federal employees remained on furlough Monday as the government shutdown entered its second week. In a rare move on Saturday, the House voted unanimously to approve back pay for furloughed employees once the shutdown ends.
But in the meantime -- while supplies last -- the company is offering eligible applicants a “free vibe,” which typically retails for $9.99, for as long as the government shutdown continues. Features include complimentary shipping conducted with the “utmost privacy and discretion.”
There is a catch, however: Due to delivery schedules, the website can’t ship more than 200 vibrators a day. Although the company doesn’t stipulate precisely how they intend to make sure that their giveaway vibrators are going to furloughed employees, they do ask that potential recipients follow the honor system, writing in a note at the bottom of the page, “To the person from Staten Island, N.Y., who has tried to order 6 free vibrators, please go away. We don't give vibrators to greedy people. Besides, what were you going to do with 6 identical vibrators? Don't answer that question.”
Jill Heller (http://www.ibtimes.com/website-offers-furloughed-employees-free-vibrators-during-government-shutdown-1415988)
They could offer members of congress dildos, but that would just be redundant...
ELVIS
10-09-2013, 08:54 AM
Like your Wikiknowledge™ ??
Kristy
10-09-2013, 10:21 AM
They could offer members of congress dildos, but that would just be redundant...
Those are fucking useless.
The We-Vibe is where it's at
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Satan
10-09-2013, 01:29 PM
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2013/131009-shutdown-day-9-but-i-thought-ted-cruz-hated-government-run-health-care.jpg
Satan
10-09-2013, 05:23 PM
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Satan
10-09-2013, 07:51 PM
October 9, 2013
Posted by Andy Borowitz
(http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2013/10/republicans-shut-down-prefrontal-cortex.html?mobify=0)
WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—In an escalation of the stalemate gripping Washington, House Republicans voted today to shut down the prefrontal cortex, the part of the brain that controls reasoning and impulses.
The resolution, which passed with heavy Tea Party support, calls for a partial shutdown of the brain, leaving the medulla and cerebellum, sometimes referred to as the “reptilian brain,” up and running.
The Tea Party caucus cheered the passage of the bill, which was sponsored by Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, who called the measure “long overdue.”
House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio) offered no timetable for restarting the prefrontal cortex, telling reporters, “It will most certainly remain shut down during any negotiations with the President. That’s the only leverage we have.”
Representative Bachmann agreed: “The President can go ahead and put a gun to our heads. There’s nothing there.”
While the G.O.P.’s decision to shut down the prefrontal cortex rattled Wall Street, the neuroscientist Davis Logsdon said it should be seen as little more than a symbolic vote, noting, “It’s actually been shut down since the 2008 election.”
Nickdfresh
10-09-2013, 09:13 PM
Like your Wikiknowledge™ ??
Elbow, everyone hates you here. Can you go back to the forum that you mod and were everyone hates you? Oh Goddamnit!
You have something dribbling down your chin there, oh God it think it's some of Alex's sperm...
Nickdfresh
10-09-2013, 09:16 PM
Psychiatrists Deeply Concerned For 5% Of Americans Who Approve Of Congress
News in Brief • Politics • politicians • mental health • ISSUE 49•41 • Oct 9, 2013
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WASHINGTON—Noting that the individuals in question may be extremely mentally disturbed or suffering from a serious psychological illness, the nation’s psychiatrists announced Wednesday that they are deeply concerned for the estimated 5 percent of Americans who were found in nationwide polls this week to approve of the U.S. Congress. “With numerous members of Congress refusing to negotiate an end to the shutdown in the face of widespread federal furloughs and a looming deadline to avoid defaulting on government debt, we are extremely concerned for the mental health of those Americans who responded, ‘Yes, we think Congress is doing a good job,’” psychiatrist Dr. Donald Levin said in a press conference this morning, telling reporters that the estimated 15.5 million Americans who approve of Congress are likely “very troubled” citizens who may in fact be experiencing psychotic episodes or delusional thoughts. “We’re not entirely sure who these people are or where they come from—perhaps they are psych ward patients, or unstable recluses living in remote huts on the outskirts of society—but what we do know is that they are extremely disconnected from reality and in need of immediate attention if they are not already receiving it. We need to find these people and get them the help they need before their illnesses get worse.” Psychiatrists added that because a number of mental health services are currently furloughed, many respondents would just have to “sit tight and hang in there” until the shutdown is resolved.
LINK (http://www.theonion.com/articles/psychiatrists-deeply-concerned-for-5-of-americans,34163/)
ELVIS
10-10-2013, 07:51 AM
Elbow, everyone hates you here. Can you go back to the forum that you mod and were everyone hates you? Oh Goddamnit!
You have something dribbling down your chin there, oh God it think it's some of Alex's sperm...
Yo momma sews socks dat STANK !!
ELVIS
10-10-2013, 07:53 AM
It's Congress, the Obomba disaster and his delusional supporters who are deeply troubled...
jacksmar
10-10-2013, 10:16 AM
You know why I’m amazed about this issue? Again, simple.
The smartest black man that was ever born and walked on the face of the earth that is not worthy of his presence,
has been out flanked by a Congress with an approval rating lower than the IQ of:
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Satan
10-10-2013, 03:18 PM
by Dean Baker
October 3, 2013 9:00AM ET (http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/10/3/government-shutdownobamacaregop.html)
Commentary: Afraid that 'Obamacare' will be popular, the GOP is tying itself in knots to prevent its success
Much of the media, and certainly the Democrats, have been unfair to congressional Republicans in characterizing their decision to shut down the government as "outrageous," "crazy" or even "terrorism." It is undoubtedly an extraordinary measure, but sometimes extraordinary measures are warranted.
Suppose it were 1968, when the United States had more than 500,000 soldiers in Vietnam and was bombing the country on a daily basis, killing thousands of people every week. How many people would view it as outrageous if Congress had voted to shut down the government until President Lyndon B. Johnson agreed to end the war? In fact, most people might view the inconveniences associated with a shutdown — and the real pain endured by government workers — as justified if it could bring an end to the killings in Vietnam.
The difference between shutting down the government to end an unjust war (or to advance any of the other great causes of recent decades) and what the Republicans are doing now is that the Republicans do not have a great cause. They are trying to keep people from getting health care. This is the disaster the Republicans hope to prevent by shutting down the government.
There are many grounds for complaining about aspects of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), also known as Obamacare. There is no public option, so people have no choice but to get care through private insurers. The cost controls are limited, which means that doctors, drug companies and medical-supply companies will likely continue to overcharge patients.
But these are not the issues that trouble the Republicans. The lack of adequate cost controls and other problems like it are items that can be fixed once the program is in place. These problems would hardly justify a government shutdown.
The reason the Republicans are prepared to go to the wall to stop Obamacare is simple: They are terrified that people will get it and like it. This would destroy the central political message of their party for the last four years. While Republicans have attacked just about everything President Barack Obama has or has not done during his presidency, there is nothing that has aroused more vitriol than the ACA.
As long as Obamacare was just a law on paper, and not a program that actually provided people with health insurance, the GOP could fabricate all sorts of horror stories. It could tell people that government bureaucrats would be in the doctors' offices with them, that they would never be able to get a doctor — it could even tell them that death panels would kill their parents and grandparents.
Most people do not have the time to pore over laws that are several thousand pages, so they have no direct knowledge of what is in the ACA. And the media's view of objectivity means they pass along Republican assertions about Obamacare without comment, regardless of how absurd those assertions may be. As a result, tens of millions of people hold many false beliefs about Obamacare. According to the September Kaiser Health Tracking Poll, as recently as last month only one in eight of the uninsured realized they would be able to start signing up for insurance on the exchanges at the start of October. This poll found that public awareness of many of the law's key provisions had not increased since 2010, and some stubborn misperceptions persist.
Until now, Republicans could get away with screaming about the horrors of Obamacare. But once people start getting health care through the program, or see their family and friends getting health care through the program, they will know what the ACA actually is.
At that point, the Republicans might just as well be screaming about the evils of Medicare. When people understand that Obamacare is first and foremost about getting health insurance, they are going to like it. They will have many grounds for complaint, just as they do with Medicare, but even the vast majority of Republicans will not want to go back to the pre-Obamacare world.
Understanding, then, what is at stake for the Republicans, it is easy to see why they would be willing to shut down the government or even default on the government's debt. The mission that has been at the very center of their agenda for the last four years is about to be shown as completely wrongheaded. Not only would Democrats be able to point fingers at the GOP, but its own followers will realize they have been misled.
At this point, Republican leaders presumably recognize that they have backed themselves into a nearly impossible position. But they are still hoping they can somehow grab a concession that will lead to the unraveling of Obamacare before it begins to take hold.
If they can delay the individual mandate for a year, perhaps they can delay it again next year. Then they may be able to persuade the insurance companies to commit themselves to a major push toward ending the program. Similarly, they hope that ending the medical device tax (which offsets extra profit given to these companies through the ACA) can lead to a revenue shortfall that will reduce subsidies and make it more difficult for many to afford insurance.
But these tactics are desperation moves. The public is about to find out that the central theme of the Republican political agenda for the last four years is a lie. And that is not a pretty story.
Satan
10-10-2013, 03:39 PM
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2013/131010-from-shutdown-to-meltdown-day-10-headlines.jpg
Satan
10-10-2013, 03:52 PM
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Satan
10-10-2013, 03:53 PM
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jacksmar
10-10-2013, 04:08 PM
by Dean Baker
October 3, 2013 9:00AM ET (http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/10/3/government-shutdownobamacaregop.html)
Commentary: Afraid that 'Obamacare' will be popular, the GOP is tying itself in knots to prevent its success
Much of the media, and certainly the Democrats, have been unfair to congressional Republicans in characterizing their decision to shut down the government as "outrageous," "crazy" or even "terrorism." It is undoubtedly an extraordinary measure, but sometimes extraordinary measures are warranted.
Suppose it were 1968, when the United States had more than 500,000 soldiers in Vietnam and was bombing the country on a daily basis, killing thousands of people every week. How many people would view it as outrageous if Congress had voted to shut down the government until President Lyndon B. Johnson agreed to end the war? In fact, most people might view the inconveniences associated with a shutdown — and the real pain endured by government workers — as justified if it could bring an end to the killings in Vietnam.
The difference between shutting down the government to end an unjust war (or to advance any of the other great causes of recent decades) and what the Republicans are doing now is that the Republicans do not have a great cause. They are trying to keep people from getting health care. This is the disaster the Republicans hope to prevent by shutting down the government.
There are many grounds for complaining about aspects of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), also known as Obamacare. There is no public option, so people have no choice but to get care through private insurers. The cost controls are limited, which means that doctors, drug companies and medical-supply companies will likely continue to overcharge patients.
But these are not the issues that trouble the Republicans. The lack of adequate cost controls and other problems like it are items that can be fixed once the program is in place. These problems would hardly justify a government shutdown.
The reason the Republicans are prepared to go to the wall to stop Obamacare is simple: They are terrified that people will get it and like it. This would destroy the central political message of their party for the last four years. While Republicans have attacked just about everything President Barack Obama has or has not done during his presidency, there is nothing that has aroused more vitriol than the ACA.
As long as Obamacare was just a law on paper, and not a program that actually provided people with health insurance, the GOP could fabricate all sorts of horror stories. It could tell people that government bureaucrats would be in the doctors' offices with them, that they would never be able to get a doctor — it could even tell them that death panels would kill their parents and grandparents.
Most people do not have the time to pore over laws that are several thousand pages, so they have no direct knowledge of what is in the ACA. And the media's view of objectivity means they pass along Republican assertions about Obamacare without comment, regardless of how absurd those assertions may be. As a result, tens of millions of people hold many false beliefs about Obamacare. According to the September Kaiser Health Tracking Poll, as recently as last month only one in eight of the uninsured realized they would be able to start signing up for insurance on the exchanges at the start of October. This poll found that public awareness of many of the law's key provisions had not increased since 2010, and some stubborn misperceptions persist.
Until now, Republicans could get away with screaming about the horrors of Obamacare. But once people start getting health care through the program, or see their family and friends getting health care through the program, they will know what the ACA actually is.
At that point, the Republicans might just as well be screaming about the evils of Medicare. When people understand that Obamacare is first and foremost about getting health insurance, they are going to like it. They will have many grounds for complaint, just as they do with Medicare, but even the vast majority of Republicans will not want to go back to the pre-Obamacare world.
Understanding, then, what is at stake for the Republicans, it is easy to see why they would be willing to shut down the government or even default on the government's debt. The mission that has been at the very center of their agenda for the last four years is about to be shown as completely wrongheaded. Not only would Democrats be able to point fingers at the GOP, but its own followers will realize they have been misled.
At this point, Republican leaders presumably recognize that they have backed themselves into a nearly impossible position. But they are still hoping they can somehow grab a concession that will lead to the unraveling of Obamacare before it begins to take hold.
If they can delay the individual mandate for a year, perhaps they can delay it again next year. Then they may be able to persuade the insurance companies to commit themselves to a major push toward ending the program. Similarly, they hope that ending the medical device tax (which offsets extra profit given to these companies through the ACA) can lead to a revenue shortfall that will reduce subsidies and make it more difficult for many to afford insurance.
But these tactics are desperation moves. The public is about to find out that the central theme of the Republican political agenda for the last four years is a lie. And that is not a pretty story.
Got it. More stimulus, more government, more reconciling international currencies.
Satan
10-10-2013, 05:17 PM
"More stimulus" is exactly how your country recovered from the previous predatory capitalist-caused depression. It just comes down to recognizing the difference between "spending" and "investment".
Infrastructure, for example, is an investment. That money will come back, usually relatively soon, and with huge gains in the long term.
Useless spending would be things like wars in the Middle East, which have nothing at all to do with the actual defense of the USA and for which you will never see a single dollar return.
I'll give you 666 guesses which one is favored by the teabaggers in the House.
Satan
10-11-2013, 01:33 AM
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Satan
10-11-2013, 01:35 AM
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ELVIS
10-11-2013, 09:22 AM
"More stimulus" is exactly how your country recovered from the previous predatory capitalist-caused depression.
Proof you know jack squat...
jacksmar
10-11-2013, 10:23 AM
"More stimulus" is exactly how your country recovered from the previous predatory capitalist-caused depression. It just comes down to recognizing the difference between "spending" and "investment".
Infrastructure, for example, is an investment. That money will come back, usually relatively soon, and with huge gains in the long term.
Useless spending would be things like wars in the Middle East, which have nothing at all to do with the actual defense of the USA and for which you will never see a single dollar return.
I'll give you 666 guesses which one is favored by the teabaggers in the House.
Spoken like an absolute socialist.
Government has killed manufacturing and tried to making something with bullshit money. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
Your bullshit environmental concerns have killed oil, coal, nuke power and the ability to provide it. This winter power costs will be higher and the govt will subsidize leaving me with a big fat check.
There are fewer UAW jobs thanks to that stimulus. GM is expanding in Shanghai. For all your corporate welfare bullshit, GM is a welfare parasite.
The same stimulus has provided us with bankrupt green jobs. Didn’t hear a word about SoloPower or Abound. 270 million pissed away.
It’s no wonder to me why the govt is shutdown. The blame goes to the guy in the White House last time I checked. It’s his watch and his Chicago Marxism is a total failure. Based on the deficit spending, how control of our economy has gone to European central bankers, and the nationalizing of American industry and banking we’re now all socialists and our homes are powered by foreign energy.
I’m still laughing about South Carolina. When the Kenyan houseboy’s assholes showed up in SC they were jailed each facing up to 20 years.
Do the same thing to the hired security at the parks and buildings. The govt will open up quickly.
Wouldn’t want those spineless repukes and them dempons to watch out for themselves would we?
dazzlindino
10-11-2013, 10:41 AM
this f'n mess...its beyond cleanup....with only corporate backed people being able to afford to run....its really just demoricans...repulicrates...one and the same...
acting out all these conflicts as a big game show....
Satan
10-11-2013, 01:08 PM
Proof you know jack squat...
A simple study of history will show you that FDR had to spend a HELL of a lot of money to get your grandparents back to work. And as I said, it was a successful strategy. Not to mention it created some much needed national infrastructure across the USA.
This should have been Obama's blueprint from day one. Unfortunately he chose the wrong cabinet, filled with all the false "democrat" DLC/Wall Street tools who hate FDR and his accomplishments as much as the Repukes do.
Satan
10-11-2013, 01:32 PM
Spoken like an absolute socialist.
Well, actually, Hell is a monarchy, more or less. I'm in charge.
Government has killed manufacturing and tried to making something with bullshit money. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
As a long time observer of mortal human history, I know exactly what I'm talking about. And while you're correct about government killing manufacturing, you seem to be blaming it all on the current occupant of the White House. Not so... the damage was done, long before he got there. As you admit yourself, he actually saved one of the few manufacturing sectors that remains in your country, the auto industry.
Your bullshit environmental concerns have killed oil, coal, nuke power and the ability to provide it. This winter power costs will be higher and the govt will subsidize leaving me with a big fat check.
Oil and coal are obsolete sources of energy, they are non-renewable, and your supplies are used up. And nuclear power has proven to be absolutely unstable and not worth the risk. Just ask Japan. Or anybody on the west coast of your country who will get the "gift" of all that Japanese radiation. Here in Hell, we use a lot of geothermal energy, which is appropriate for this climate. Obviously solar isn't an option for us, but I've got the scientists down here working on windmills that will stand up to 666 MPH winds. Not to mention we have an endless supply of good old fashioned fire, obviously.
There are fewer UAW jobs thanks to that stimulus. GM is expanding in Shanghai. For all your corporate welfare bullshit, GM is a welfare parasite.
GM got a bailout, this is true. Then they paid it back. So it was a "hand up", not a "hand out". And it was worth the risk, since losing the auto industry would have been one HELL of a castastrophe to your already damaged mortal economy.
The same stimulus has provided us with bankrupt green jobs. Didn’t hear a word about SoloPower or Abound. 270 million pissed away.
Not familiar with those companies or what they made. But I'm guessing that, even if they failed, they contributed more to your country than JP Morgan Chase or Gold Mansacks ever did
It’s no wonder to me why the govt is shutdown. The blame goes to the guy in the White House last time I checked.
Dragonshit. The teabaggers in the House shut down the government. Not Obama. Not the Demoncrats. Not even the "sane" Republicans. Just a small handful of KKKoch funded Randtards acting like two year olds with shitty diapers.
It’s his watch and his Chicago Marxism is a total failure.
Obviously, you have no idea what Marxism is. When you arrive in Hell, I'll be sure to have Karl explain it to you.
Based on the deficit spending, how control of our economy has gone to European central bankers, and the nationalizing of American industry and banking we’re now all socialists and our homes are powered by foreign energy.
There has been no nationalizing of American industry or banking. Though the banking industry really should have been nationalized. Or at least "state-ized" (see North Dakota) And if your home is powered by foreign energy, be sure to thank a Repuke for the deregulation which made that possible. My home is powered by Hell Municipal Power and Light....666% pure geothermal energy.
I’m still laughing about South Carolina. When the Kenyan houseboy’s assholes showed up in SC they were jailed each facing up to 20 years.
I have no idea what the Hell you are talking about here, and I suspect you don't either.
Do the same thing to the hired security at the parks and buildings. The govt will open up quickly.
Wouldn’t want those spineless repukes and them dempons to watch out for themselves would we?
No, I'd advise you to charge the teabaggers with treason and take the appropriate action. Of course then they would be MY problem. http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d085.gif
ELVIS
10-11-2013, 02:25 PM
You're brainwashed by leftist politics, FORD...
jacksmar is awake like myself...
Nothing you say will put us back to sleep...
jacksmar
10-11-2013, 02:30 PM
Satan lies again.
GM still owes the U.S. roughly 16 billion.
You are a liar.
jhale667
10-11-2013, 02:35 PM
jacksmar is awake like myself...
:lol:
Satan
10-11-2013, 03:05 PM
You're brainwashed by leftist politics, FORD...
jacksmar is awake like myself...
Nothing you say will put us back to sleep...
You two aren't "awake", you just think you are. It's more like an Ambien zombie state, actually. http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d025.gif
jhale667
10-11-2013, 03:08 PM
Ted Cruz, Batshit Bachmann etc also think they're "awake". Reality begs to differ.
Satan
10-11-2013, 03:15 PM
When darkness reigns, where will you be hiding, Mr. Presley? http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d010.gif
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bceQGdtrtis
ELVIS
10-11-2013, 03:42 PM
In the light, of course...
Kristy
10-11-2013, 03:45 PM
Awake - a term used by cultist followers of Alex Jone$ to believe they are alert to his paranoia and DVD marketing scams.
Satan
10-11-2013, 04:19 PM
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2013/131011-new-poll-described-as-jaw-dropping.jpg
ELVIS
10-11-2013, 05:00 PM
You're in liberal la la land...
Dr. Love
10-11-2013, 05:08 PM
The biggest problem is that the United States refuses to pull back to its own borders and let the other nations of the world manage themselves for a change. The military budget reflects this desire to not just outclass everyone else militarily but to utterly liberate anyone that looks at us funny.
There's a big problem with social program abuse but we could and absolutely should bring all of our troops home and invest part of that money in ourselves, our infrastructure, our industry, in our health and education, and return the rest to the people and wind down the government overhead and agencies that are out of control (like DHS and TSA).
Satan
10-11-2013, 05:14 PM
You're in liberal la la land...
No, I'm in Hell.
And there are a lot more Conservatives here than Liberals. If you read JC's teachings, it should be easy enough to figure out why that's the case.
dazzlindino
10-11-2013, 05:18 PM
You're in liberal la la land...
yet when someone calls you out as a republican...you say enough with the left right b.s. ...ha ha....
very very very awake....
ELVIS
10-12-2013, 12:02 AM
How can you be so dunb ??
I'm not part of the left / right game at all...
FORD is sold out to it though...
Satan
10-12-2013, 12:21 AM
Believe me, Mr. Presley...... FORD is anything but "sold out".
And I know this because I've been trying to acquire his soul for decades, and he still won't make the deal. http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d085.gif
Nickdfresh
10-12-2013, 06:55 AM
How can you be so dunb ??
I'm not part of the left / right game at all...
FORD is sold out to it though...
No, you're part of the extremist right game. But good to know you stand against Z.O.G.!
You dunny!
Nickdfresh
10-12-2013, 10:34 AM
https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/558456_735320856495006_689961337_n.jpg
:D
I signed a petition at Starfucks today, to reopen the gov't...
Nickdfresh
10-12-2013, 01:23 PM
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:D We have a hostage situation...
tbone888
10-12-2013, 02:53 PM
11023
Satan
10-12-2013, 04:13 PM
“The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payments of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.”
US Constitution, 14th amendment.
Satan
10-12-2013, 04:15 PM
For Hell's sake, what is up with the "autoplay" on the Comedy Central clips??
They didn't used to do that. It gets annoying when you come back to the same thread multiple times....
DavidLeeNatra
10-12-2013, 07:19 PM
can you Americanos believe how much fun it is to live in a country with a strong economy, a healthcare system for everybody that works and a society that has not totally forgotten to take care of each other?
watch it from the outside and you can't believe that a so called superpower has dumbasses speak over 21 hours, politicians who will fuck up the whole country to stop a health insurance that is standard for most of the industrial states and hillbillies sitting in the swamps of Louisiana claiming "oh I dunneedno goument...dunnedno indurance...I have a gun an' will stand my ground"
you are one fucked up and sick nation...
Satan
10-12-2013, 07:57 PM
Tell me about it....
I'm thinking about moving Hell up to the USA, because these teabagging mongoloids are setting up the perfect conditions for a land of eternal torment.
And if you don't get the climate change under control, even the temperature difference won't be very much.
Nickdfresh
10-12-2013, 08:45 PM
can you Americanos believe how much fun it is to live in a country with a strong economy, a healthcare system for everybody that works and a society that has not totally forgotten to take care of each other?
...
Like the Greeks? :D
ashstralia
10-13-2013, 03:59 AM
I wouldn't have worded it as harshly as DLN, but from where I'm sitting it doesn't look good for you, my Stateside friends. I implore you again, if you are able to liquidate and relocate half a world away, please come to Australia. Our standard of living ( and free healthcare ) awaits.
DavidLeeNatra
10-13-2013, 05:15 AM
Like the Greeks? :D
or Italien :biggrin:
but while you spend a shitload of money to read my emails and listen to my phonecalls you can't get your kids educated, your people to the doctor and your roads fixed. tell me about fucking up...
ELVIS
10-13-2013, 08:52 AM
tell me about fucking up...
Sure...
It's called Gleichschaltung...
DavidLeeNatra
10-13-2013, 09:27 AM
Sure...
It's called Gleichschaltung...
E. time to leave the swamps now and then...no one is here "gleichgeschaltet"...we have rich and we have poor (rich is better so much better) but we also have a "Solidargemeinschaft" that means the strong carry the not so strong. goes back to some rule called "love thy neighbor"...ever heard of?
ELVIS
10-13-2013, 10:11 AM
Sure I have...
It's just not the job of the federal government to take care of everybody...
We have a Constitution to live by in this country and it's being shredded before our very eyes...
We're being lied to and I want no part of this government takeover...
DavidLeeNatra
10-13-2013, 10:26 AM
Sure I have...
It's just not the job of the federal government to take care of everybody...
We have a Constitution to live by in this country and it's being shredded before our very eyes...
We're being lied to and I want no part of this government takeover...
you may have recognized that the world has changed since 1776? it's okay...it's called progress...
Nickdfresh
10-13-2013, 01:21 PM
or Italien :biggrin:
but while you spend a shitload of money to read my emails and listen to my phonecalls
You should really call your mother more often. :)
you can't get your kids educated, your people to the doctor and your roads fixed. tell me about fucking up...
You have some points there, but you're overstating things with quite a bit of hyperbole. Our infrastructure leaves something to be desired, but where I live they're doing a shitload of work to redevelop the waterfront long dominated by industry and turning it over to tourism and recreation. Kids still get educated and the local massive state university is drawing students from around the world, especially Asia --but is a bargain for local residents. I agree this whole thing is a massive joke of irresponsible and epic assclownery. but things will sort themselves out as the extremists will increasingly become marginalized and the Republican Party will be faced with stark choices to stay anywhere near electability. The problem is they used to be the party that promised better, more efficient government. Now they've become the anti-government party...
Nickdfresh
10-13-2013, 01:26 PM
Sure I have...
It's just not the job of the federal government to take care of everybody...
WTF is the point of any government that doesn't take care of its citizens?
We have a Constitution to live by in this country and it's being shredded before our very eyes...
We're being lied to and I want no part of this government takeover...
Then move out of the fucking country to a place whose governance you approve of! I hear land in Somalia is cheap...
ELVIS
10-13-2013, 01:48 PM
WTF is the point of any government that doesn't take care of its citizens?
LMAO !!
Maybe you can Wiki it...
Then move out of the fucking country to a place whose governance you approve of! I hear land in Somalia is cheap...
Somalia is a police state just like this place is becoming...
The government can't and wont take care of you...
Dummy...
:elvis:
Nickdfresh
10-13-2013, 01:55 PM
LMAO !!
Maybe you can Wiki it...
Wow, what a cutting edge retort. But it works better if it actually makes sense, trailer dweller...
...
Somalia is a police state just like this place is becoming...
What, did you "Wiki" it, asshole?
The government can't and wont take care of you...
Dummy...
:elvis:
I don't want them to take care of me, El-fuckwit. I never asked them too, I'm pretty sure you've received as much or more guberment assistance here as anybody...
ELVIS
10-13-2013, 02:00 PM
Nope, never, idiot...
twonabomber
10-13-2013, 02:01 PM
We have a Constitution to live by in this country and it's being shredded before our very eyes...
We're being lied to and I want no part of this government takeover...
Like everything else, those things didn't magically start happening the day Obama was inaugurated.
ELVIS
10-13-2013, 02:13 PM
No, they started the day the patriot act was signed by Bush...
Nickdfresh
10-13-2013, 02:19 PM
No, they started the day the patriot act was signed by Bush...
Conveniently, you were fine with it then...
ELVIS
10-13-2013, 03:23 PM
Yeah, then I woke up...
You're still asleep, dummy...
Satan
10-13-2013, 07:57 PM
No, they started the day the patriot act was signed by Bush...
Actually, it started in 1981, but seriously escalated on December 12, 2000.
When 5 BCE appointed thugs in black robes overturned a Presidential election, cheered on by the corporate whore media and the 20 percent of your mortal population with the lowest IQ.
Nickdfresh
10-13-2013, 08:40 PM
Yeah, then I woke up...
..
And some big burly, hairy guy was in your bed?
Satan
10-13-2013, 08:44 PM
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Renegade-Bears-of-Louisiana/343643095717359
Satan
10-13-2013, 11:02 PM
http://www.citizenschwartz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Cruz-Control-jpeg-1024x764.png
Two idiots with a combined IQ of 25, inciting a riot, while speaking in front of two Confederate flags, a symbol of TREASON against the United States of America.
ARREST THESE PIECES OF GODDAMNABLE SHIT! :mad:
Seshmeister
10-14-2013, 01:15 AM
Yeah, then I woke up...
The funniest thing about your posts is that even you accept that you are constantly and persistently wrong on almost every subject from is Wolfgang miming live to should we invade Iraq yet you don't ever let that affect your self confidence about your latest subject/cult/conspiracy theory. :D
I love the spectacular optimism that maybe this once, this one time you could beat the odds and be correct about something. To be fair we are at the point now where you have been so wrong on so many things the laws of average say that you must get something right eventually... :)
ODShowtime
10-14-2013, 06:35 AM
watch it from the outside and you can't believe that a so called superpower has dumbass hillbillies sitting in the swamps of Louisiana claiming "oh I dunneedno goument...dunnedno indurance...I have a gun an' will stand my ground"
you are one fucked up and sick nation...
Was elvis interviewed on CNN?
ashstralia
10-14-2013, 07:28 AM
The funniest thing about your posts is
E getting his arse kicked from half a dozen different nations. :biggrin:
vandeleur
10-14-2013, 07:36 AM
Yeah .... It's like the classic tunergate all over again :D
ashstralia
10-14-2013, 07:41 AM
Haha!!! Tunergate!
That's brilliant mate. 😄
Kristy
10-14-2013, 09:39 AM
Hollywood could not have created a villain with a face like Cruz in a thousand years. And batty-eyed Bachman is his science experiment gone wrong.
jhale667
10-14-2013, 11:26 AM
Yeah .... It's like the classic tunergate all over again :D
:lol:
Satan
10-14-2013, 11:57 AM
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2013/131014-palin-and-cruz-join-regrettable-tea-party-protest.jpg
Satan
10-14-2013, 12:06 PM
http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/51507/large/TMW2013-10-16color.png
Satan
10-14-2013, 12:51 PM
And just in case anybody thinks a Devil is exaggerating when I say how stupid these teabagging assclowns are........
https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/1375710_10151984215336111_478838327_n.jpg
That's from the Klan rally yesterday. And the only "veteran's" these morons are interested in are the ones who wore the gray uniforms in the 1860s.
Kristy
10-14-2013, 12:57 PM
What so wrong with having a 6th grade education? Why that's this many times more than you average Roth fan education.
Satan
10-14-2013, 01:05 PM
The Grave Robbers In Congress
By Charles P. Pierce
My father died in 1989, a victim of Alzheimer's Disease. In his younger days, he was a combat Naval veteran of World War II. Because of that, he was able to take advantage of a big-government program called the GI Bill of Rights. Because of that, he was eligible for a comfortable big-government pension when he retired from his career in a big-government program called the public schools. His politics were very conservative, almost radically so. (It was he who suggested I spend a rainy weekend reading None Dare Call It Treason, a sort of ur-text for Birchite winguttia.) He is not here to speak for himself, so I will do so. It is not merely unseemly, but positively obscene for people like Ted Cruz, and Mike Lee, and the unspeakable Princess Dumbass of the Northwoods to use surviving World War II veterans to advance a political agenda that would make the lives of those veterans immeasurably worse. It is obscene for them to use old, brave men as camouflage for bigotry and nonsense. It is obscene for them to borrow courage that never would find in themselves and to gussy it up in Confederate flags and trot it out as an an audience for crackpots like Larry Klayman. It is obscene for them to claim for themselves the dead of Normandy, and the Bulge, and Okinawa, and Saipan. It is obscene for them to try to purify their own vandalism in worthier blood than flows in their veins.
How dare these idiots? Tailgunner Ted Cruz, and Mike Lee, the constitooshunal skolar from Utah, and Ms. Palin. How dare they traffick in this manner of grave-robbing? They would all throw these veterans off Medicare, close the VA hospitals, bury the brave old men and women in substandard nursing homes rather than give an inch away of their indomitable ideology of entitled selfishness. Ted Cruz doesn't think the government has a role in making the lives of these veterans easier. Mike Lee thinks the Founders wanted vets to starve. Sarah Palin doesn't think, period, and is proud of it.
The American Right has never looked as fundamentally reckless and inhumane as it did when it attempted to burglarize heroism over the weekend. All the chickenhawks came home to roost, for sure. To see Princess Dumbass there, one hand on her heart while the other one very likely was picking pockets, attempting to wrap herself in the sacrifice of so many people, living and dead, when the hardest thing she's ever done in her life is quit her job halfway through doing it, is to see a kind of ghastly kind of historical vampirism. It takes a special lack of conscience to grift the graves of the honored dead. It's enough to make you root very hard for the Curse Of The Pharaohs. My father doesn't need the intercession of these delusional creatures. On his behalf, I say, in god's name, walk away from decent people in shame.
Link (http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/republicans-using-wwii-vets-for-political-agenda-101413)
Satan
10-14-2013, 01:09 PM
What so wrong with having a 6th grade education? Why that's this many times more than you average Roth fan education.
I would suspect that most 6th graders are intellectually better off than the teabaggers. Except for the home-schooled teabagging 6th graders, of course.
Nickdfresh
10-14-2013, 02:53 PM
What so wrong with having a 6th grade education? Why that's this many times more than you average Roth fan education.
https://fbexternal-a.akamaihd.net/safe_image.php?d=AQDMYq635mOl1QkK&url=http%3A%2F%2Fi1.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2Fl61LjTwME7w%2 Fmaxresdefault.jpg
Um, what? :)
Kristy
10-14-2013, 02:58 PM
Hey Wiki Niki I'm constipated today. Any great factual info you could share?
vandeleur
10-14-2013, 03:05 PM
Hey Wiki Niki I'm constipated today. Any great factual info you could share?
Queue full of shit gags :biggrin:
Nickdfresh
10-14-2013, 03:06 PM
Hey Wiki Niki I'm constipated today. Any great factual info you could share?
Try Activia yogurt. It keeps me and Jamie Lee Curtis regular. The Greek style is the bomb!
Kristy
10-14-2013, 03:10 PM
Thanks so much Wiki Niki!
I've been on a steady diet of oatmeal and heroin. Shuts down the bowel completely. So when I do go ends up looking something like this:
http://hypetrak.com/images/2012/02/van-halen-a-different-kind-of-truth.jpg
Satan
10-14-2013, 03:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtWu0c8y0Qw
Nickdfresh
10-14-2013, 09:49 PM
Thanks so much Wiki Niki!
I've been on a steady diet of oatmeal and heroin. Shuts down the bowel completely. So when I do go ends up looking something like this:
http://hypetrak.com/images/2012/02/van-halen-a-different-kind-of-truth.jpg
Does that mean that flashing lights and gates come down in front of your vagina while you take a dump?
Satan
10-14-2013, 10:50 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWdljjFCQAAB8so.jpg
jhale667
10-15-2013, 12:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtWu0c8y0Qw
Klayman should die in a fire. Slowly.
ELVIS
10-15-2013, 12:23 PM
The president's a Christian ??
Hahahahahaha...:biggrin:
jhale667
10-15-2013, 12:29 PM
The president's a Christian ??
Hahahahahaha...:biggrin:
VASTLY more believable than your claim to be one.
ELVIS
10-15-2013, 12:58 PM
I never lied to you...
Everything Obomba says is a lie...
jhale667
10-15-2013, 01:30 PM
I never lied to you...
Everything Obomba says is a lie...
Sorry, what were you lying? Get real - practically everything you post is bullshit, dude... including that. Nice try.
Kristy
10-15-2013, 01:55 PM
Does that mean that flashing lights and gates come down in front of your vagina while you take a dump?
No. It does not mean that.
Angel
10-15-2013, 01:56 PM
Sorry, what were you lying? Get real - practically everything you post is bullshit, dude... including that. Nice try.
11035
Satan
10-15-2013, 02:19 PM
Klayman should die in a fire. Slowly.
Yep.... Thom Hartmann even gave him a chance to "walk back" the stupid shit he said at the Teahadist rally. Not only would he not do so, he actually said MORE stupid shit.......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gbMrHGhN70
Satan
10-15-2013, 07:39 PM
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2013/131015-shutdown-derp.jpg
Sadly, you can bet your soul that most of these morons will vote for these treasonous teabagging randtard shitbags again. http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d085.gif
Satan
10-15-2013, 09:26 PM
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoons/BenneC/2013/BenneC20131015_low.jpg
Satan
10-15-2013, 09:27 PM
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoons/HorseD/2013/HorseD20131015_low.jpg
Satan
10-15-2013, 09:29 PM
http://media.cagle.com/180/2013/10/14/138785_600.jpg
Satan
10-15-2013, 09:31 PM
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoons/SorenJ/2013/SorenJ20131015_low.jpg
Satan
10-15-2013, 09:37 PM
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoons/EngleB/2013/EngleB20131015_low.jpg
Satan
10-15-2013, 09:40 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWGWDY6CUAAs_2B.jpg
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