Is America this fucking prudish about nudity and sex...

[fraroc]

http://www.businessinsider.com/alabama-teen-christian-adamek-hangs-himself-2013-10

Believe it or not, it happened. And the kid ended up committing suicide :(

Okay, I understand that this took place in Alabama which is not the most gay-friendly or sex-friendly place in the United States, but COME THE FUCK ON. Are we that scared of nudity and sex that we are willing to make this kid a criminal and a "child molester" because he streaked a football field? First of all, despite that he was naked, he didn't do ANYTHING sexual AT ALL. He didn't fap in front of the crowd or in front of the players, he didn't touch any of the cheerleaders sexually without consent, yet it was considered a "sexual offense" JUST BECAUSE the kid was naked. And the fact that the kid was a male. Believe me, if it was a girl that streaked the field, they would have softened the blow.

Now, I'm not defending what the kid did per-se. I personally believe that he should have been disciplined for what he did. A week of after-school detention comes to mind. Not what that asshole principal did, by threatening to contact authorities, forcing him to register as a sex offender, and essentially ending this kid's future for one stupid thing.

I hope this principal feels really shitty now that his threat drove a FIFTEEN YEAR OLD KID, with his whole life ahead of him to kill himself.

[jhale667]

Unbelievable. People need to lighten the fuck up.

[Satan]

I'll just repeat what our friend FORD posted on YouTube.....



This fucking principal needs to lose his job immediately. Unfortunately, I doubt he can be charged with anything in a criminal court, but I would say the dead kid's family has serious grounds for a civil lawsuit.

Teenagers sometimes do dumb things, and what the kid did was surely dumb. But it didn't make him a goddamn sex offender, and it certainly wasn't anything he should have died for.

[fraroc]

I don't know if this has any merit to it, but supposedly the kid that was streaking was gay and was targeted by bullies before this incident happened.

[Satan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flvkx4RfCrU

[fraroc]

The fucking problem with the puritanism in America is the fucking laws that come out of it. If someone dosen't like something, they want to make it illegal. "I personally don't like gay men grinding against each other wearing speedos, MAKE PRIDE PARADES ILLEGAL!!" and "I don't like it when women sunbathe naked, MAKE NUDE BEACHES ILLEGAL!!"

[Seshmeister]

The fucking problem with the puritanism in America is the fucking laws that come out of it.

Well it is the country where over half a million people complained about a woman's breast appearing on TV for less than a second...

[ZahZoo]

You missed a few key points in all this kid... but that's ok. You gotta learn somehow.

Simple concept... running around naked at a public school event is stupid to begin with... illegal, duh... and has nothing to do with morals, puritanism or any other bullshit concepts.

Nudity has it's time and place... But pay attention dumbass... a high school football game is NOT the time or place!!! No one is scared of nudity or sex... football games are just not the place to engage in such activity. It's a violent contact sport... you want your junk covered and protected while on the field.

At 15 that little idiot knew the consequences of running naked at a football game could get his ass arrested. Adding that he was previously bullied and gay... makes his moronic choice even more stupid. He knew damn well he'd be getting a ton of negative attention for doing this. Then the poor baby couldn't handle the repercussions and offs himself...

Sorry no sympathy for him... some for his parents and family for having so suffer the loss of the selfish, troubled little bastard.

There should be no outrage against society or morality in America over this... some spoiled brat teenager brought all that hell upon himself.

[Satan]

Well, this being in Alabama, you have to wonder if the principal would have been so quick to brand the kid a "sex offender" if he had been a drunken heterosexual jock, and not a gay kid.

[fraroc]

You missed a few key points in all this kid... but that's ok. You gotta learn somehow.

Simple concept... running around naked at a public school event is stupid to begin with... illegal, duh... and has nothing to do with morals, puritanism or any other bullshit concepts.

Nudity has it's time and place... But pay attention dumbass... a high school football game is NOT the time or place!!! No one is scared of nudity or sex... football games are just not the place to engage in such activity. It's a violent contact sport... you want your junk covered and protected while on the field.

At 15 that little idiot knew the consequences of running naked at a football game could get his ass arrested. Adding that he was previously bullied and gay... makes his moronic choice even more stupid. He knew damn well he'd be getting a ton of negative attention for doing this. Then the poor baby couldn't handle the repercussions and offs himself...

Sorry no sympathy for him... some for his parents and family for having so suffer the loss of the selfish, troubled little bastard.

There should be no outrage against society or morality in America over this... some spoiled brat teenager brought all that hell upon himself.

Kristy.

[sonrisa salvaje]

Well, this being in Alabama, you have to wonder if the principal would have been so quick to brand the kid a "sex offender" if he had been a drunken heterosexual jock, and not a gay kid.

I can speak to this because i was born and raised here. I think the answer is no. I think the punishment would have been the same considering there were likely a lot of young children there (not that there wouldn't be at an NFL or MLB venue in another state). Maybe it has more to do with it happening in the heart of the bible belt.

[ZahZoo]

You bunch of fucking idiots... streaking will get you arrested in all 50 states. The same in most other countries.

In most cases the initial charge will be indecent exposure... there may be variations on the name of the charge or the severity based on state or local laws. But it's all the same either way.

How is it wrong to classify it as a "sexual offense"..?

If a male exposes his genitalia (junk for you morons) to a minor... that falls smack dab into the "sexual offense" realm. Doesn't matter if the idiot is from Alabama or New York city... doesn't matter if you're a flaming homo or Von Halen... 15 or 85... You run around with your tallywhacker floppin in the breeze in public... you get popped and labeled a sexual deviant.

[Angel]

You bunch of fucking idiots... streaking will get you arrested in all 50 states. The same in most other countries.

In most cases the initial charge will be indecent exposure... there may be variations on the name of the charge or the severity based on state or local laws. But it's all the same either way.

How is it wrong to classify it as a "sexual offense"..?

If a male exposes his genitalia (junk for you morons) to a minor... that falls smack dab into the "sexual offense" realm. Doesn't matter if the idiot is from Alabama or New York city... doesn't matter if you're a flaming homo or Von Halen... 15 or 85... You run around with your tallywhacker floppin in the breeze in public... you get popped and labeled a sexual deviant.

Thank God I live in Canada...where streaking isn't considered indecent exposure and women can bare their breasts in public...

[ELVIS]

Thank God I live in Canada...where streaking isn't considered indecent exposure and women can bare their breasts in public...

Canadian Criminal Code Section 174 prohibits nudity if it offends "against public decency or order" and in view of the public...

[Angel]

Canadian Criminal Code Section 174 prohibits nudity if it offends "against public decency or order" and in view of the public...

Yes, and streaking and women's breasts do not fall under that category, as determined by the Supreme Court of Canada.

[Seshmeister]

http://www.publicintegrity.org/2013/05/01/12594/report-details-lives-ruined-children-put-sex-offender-registries


Report details lives ruined for children put on sex-offender registries


Nudity, streaking, petting, not just rape, have led to youths put on sex-offender registries

By Susan Ferrissemail 6:00 am, May 1, 2013 Updated: 4:38 pm, August 21, 2013


The New York-based research group Human Rights Watch issued an extensive report today on the life-shattering consequences of putting minors on sex registries for offenses — sometimes shockingly mild offenses — for the rest of their lives.

Filled with devastating stories of teens and young adults unable to put offenses behind them, the rights group's report is called “Raised on the Register: The Irreparable Harm of Placing Children on Sex Offender Registries in the U.S.”

The report is the product of a 16-month investigation into 581 cases and interviews with 281 sex offenders — median age 15 — in 20 states. Prosecutors, defense attorneys, child sexuality experts and victims of “child on child” sexual assault were also interviewed. The investigation explores how a burgeoning national web of laws in various states requiring constant registration and public disclosure of offenders’ identities has affected the lives of young offenders long after time served or rehabilitation. Some on registries have killed themselves, even before reaching adulthood.

The report begins with Jacob C., who was 11 years old when convicted of one count of sexual misconduct in Michigan for touching, not penetrating, his sister’s genitals. He was not allowed to live in a home with other children, was eventually put into foster care and was placed on a sex registry that was made public when he turned 18. He struggled to graduate from high school, and was shunned because of his registration status. And when he enrolled in college, he said, campus police followed him everywhere. He dropped out.

Now 26, the report says, Jacob’s life continues to be defined and limited by a conviction at age 11.

Another case in the report: “In 2004, in Western Pennsylvania, a 15-year-old girl was charged with manufacturing and disseminating child pornography for having taken nude photos of herself and (posting) them on the internet. She was charged as an adult, and as of 2012 was facing registration for life.”

Sex offender laws, the report says, “that trigger registration requirements for children began proliferating in the United States during the late 1980s and early 1990s. They subject youth offenders to registration for crimes ranging from public nudity and touching another child’s genitalia over clothing to very serious violent crimes like rape.”

Registries can also include “people who have committed offenses like public urination, indecent exposure (such as streaking across a college campus), and other more relatively innocuous offenses.”

The Human Rights Watch report acknowledged that registration laws were designed to protect the public from offenders, and that they are based on assumptions that offenders are likely to violate again.

“But including youth sex offenders on registries assumes that they are highly likely to reoffend, which is not the case,” the report says. “Numerous studies estimate the recidivism rate among children who commit sexual offenses to between 4 and 10 percent, compared with a 13 percent rate for adult sex offenders and a national rate of 45 percent for all crimes.”

The report was prepared by Nicole Pittman, a national expert on the application of sex offender registration laws who was an attorney at the Defender Association of Philadelphia. She specialized in child sexual assault cases and registries, and has provided testimony to Congress and state legislatures on the subject.

The report calls current registry laws “an overbroad policy of questionable effectiveness” that leaves the public often unable to discern who on a registry is actually dangerous.

[ELVIS]

What about the "life-shattering consequences" of putting children on SSRIs and other forms of Big Poison ??

[Angel]

What about the "life-shattering consequences" of putting children on SSRIs and other forms of Big Poison ??

Different topic. Start a thread....

[ELVIS]

Well, this being in Alabama, you have to wonder

Shaddup queer...

Go streak at a football game...

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Different topic. Start a thread....

about dave's hair...

[ELVIS]

Different topic. Start a thread....

Different topic ??

I'm sure we'll hear soon enough about what medication the sexually confused child was on, or that he was being treated for depression...

[ZahZoo]

Thank God I live in Canada...where streaking isn't considered indecent exposure and women can bare their breasts in public...

My point was not to imply that all forms of nudity were illegal... They were specifically meant for doing so at a public event that a high percentage of the attendees were minor children... A high school football game in this specific incident.

[sonrisa salvaje]

My point was not to imply that all forms of nudity were illegal... They were specifically meant for doing so at a public event that a high percentage of the attendees were minor children... A high school football game in this specific incident.

Yes, i agree with your point. I wasn't sure about the laws in other states but it makes sense to me that regardless of location this would be a hammerable offense. If children are present when you do something like this it takes on an entirely new meaning. If my kids saw this happen, realistically, they would think it was funny as hell. Would i want them to see it? Absolutely not. I didn't think it would be a stretch for Alabama to be harder on this but in this day and age any state would bury you.

[ZahZoo]

I actually had the time to watch the video... fraroc it may be best you stay in school a while longer. Your reading comprehension needs some serious work.

The principal discussed only the possible implications for what the kid did. He didn't even mention the kid's name. The school had recommended a hearing take place to determine "IF" formal charges should be filed. But that never happened.

The idiot had only been arrested. The hearing never took place. The school hadn't even determined what punishment it would hand out.

The kid hung himself before he was even formally charged with anything... he wasn't even suspended from school yet.

There's no mention of bullying or anyone being gay associated with this idiot kid... where'd you dream that shit up?