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ELVIS
11-12-2013, 03:06 PM
:elvis:

Nitro Express
11-12-2013, 03:14 PM
Now people are finding out they can only have doctors on a list. Opens the door to political manipulation. Look at what they did with the IRS. Now they can shut your doctor down if they don't like them or hey deny you care if they don't like you.

Ah this was just designed to ruin the insurance companies and move in their system and since corporations now run the federal government behind the scene it will probably be a monopolized corporate mandatory system with the government being the muscle. Say hello to corporate feudal fascism. No choice and the only change you will have is what little is left in your pocket.

It's all about power and control. Not providing quality care.

FORD
11-12-2013, 05:30 PM
Seriously??

You guys still believe ANYTHING that Pimpy O'Keefe tells you?

This motherfucking little trustfund fuck inbred has been exposed as a liar and a fraud repeatedly, and yet you continue to believe his bullshit?

clarathecarrot
11-12-2013, 05:47 PM
The Goverment strong arm robbery of the private doctors and hospital monies, in one crime full sweep legislation, nation wide..trully all Obama Care is, is just that....big big money stolen from the hands of the workers.

Some may see it as, Communism.

As with the current information society and any small companies HR Departments ability to access your driving history and police records at will.

Obama Care also opens up your doctor patient confidentiality..GONE! to anyone with a computer..got Herpes, you won't get hired..had the clap ...you won't get hired ...DWI..you won't get hired, assaut on a person....a terminal ilness...that and any other info is at free access to any HR Department flunky.

Paperless society with debit cards.
All what was once personal info accessed from your past at the stroke of a key.
Mandatory background checks.


All this courtesy of people who are hired to legislate..simply doing thier job.....thier minds wander....they feel like they must do something so they invent shit.

How do they get paid and generate money....off the backs of the working class...it's simple math people .

Way to many government jobs exist way to many local city councils raping the constitution like a small rat chewing on a block of cheese.

While everyone is fed a, PIK PLAY on the national news every evening about "big ticket items" they cannot control and have no say in .

Meanwhile, the mouse is destroying the house.

FORD
11-12-2013, 06:00 PM
The Goverment strong arm robbery of the private doctors and hospital monies, in one crime full sweep legislation, nation wide..trully all Obama Care is, is just that....big big money stolen from the hands of the workers.

Some may see it as, Communism.

Only those who have no idea what "Communism" means.


Money has been repeatedly stolen from the working class, and given to corporations and the rich, over the last 32 years.

That's not communism. It's fascism. And Pimpy O'Keefe is a fascist fraud.

clarathecarrot
11-12-2013, 06:05 PM
Many very smart people have written many articles to confuse and canfrone, the masses while the freedom guaranteed by the framers, is seen as, "quaint, old timie like a turn of the century chippendale chair it's worth alot then worthless when refinished... needs upgrade...yea no NO NO!!!! This is what they meant when they .....but you all are progressive ...doing your jobs in government what you were elected to do.

Confused in your mind about maintaining the constitution with the warped concept of changing it for the better.

Many people will write many a article a term paper and books galore about the fall of the Roman Empire...I am going to tell you what it was....When over 50% of the employed are goverment employees and those peoples are paid by the lesser % of the population, working class thru tax monies the whole thing stops dies and cannot be saved.

They will flourish all kinds a fancy reasons to confuse you on the news and in very important books national best sellers written by idiots.


Remember over 50% of the population is paid off of the backs of the the tax payers, it is over.....to much wieght.

clarathecarrot
11-12-2013, 06:12 PM
Only those who have no idea what "Communism" means.


Money has been repeatedly stolen from the working class, and given to corporations and the rich, over the last 32 years.

That's not communism. It's fascism. And Pimpy O'Keefe is a fascist fraud.

Corporations are us, my brother, the working class a total different item than a government.

You cannot seem to grasp that concept the corporation is the working class .

It doesn't matter if the money off our backs goes to the corps the corps protect us from the government strong arm robbery.

The corps are all we have to keep the money and freedom in the private sector.

The corps are OUR TOOL to protect our monies.

You must understand this.

Nickdfresh
11-12-2013, 06:24 PM
Now people are finding out they can only have doctors on a list....

What a shock! I mean, I remember when HMO's let you see any doctor you wanted back during NEVER! LOL

clarathecarrot
11-12-2013, 06:38 PM
All the monies for ObamaCare goes into a "POOL" is what the call it ..lol.

If you don't carry heath coverage thru Obama Care you will be fined and then jailed.

Freedom has never been so on the edge as with that last sentence.

More money to the city council fines and court times..it's a win win for ....WHO!

The corporations were designed by us to protect us from expanding government...one of the largest "Brothers" we had on the chess board has fallen..Hospitals and The Working Class, that provide the services in all ranges of that job description from Hospital CEO to Janitor...All are now govenrment Pool employees...another yoke upon my back.

Pennies you say pennies a day another penny gone away.

FORD
11-12-2013, 07:38 PM
All the monies for ObamaCare goes into a "POOL" is what the call it ..lol.

Nope. You're thinking of a national single payer system. Which this, sadly, is NOT. The reason why single payer IS the best solution is just as you said, everyone would be in the same pool. And the larger the pool is, the lower the risk (statistically speaking) and therefore, the lower the costs per person. Also, the admin overhead of a national system (i.e. Medicare or the VA, to use two existing examples) is considerably lower than that of a corporate model which by design has to make profits to pay CEOs and shareholders, which becomes their primary motivation (as opposed to anything actually having to do with health care)


If you don't carry heath coverage thru Obama Care you will be fined and then jailed.

Freedom has never been so on the edge as with that last sentence.

I'm no fan of mandated payments to corporations, but again, that's where it's going. To the corporations. Not the government, which - by extention- is the people.


More money to the city council fines and court times..it's a win win for ....WHO!

It's doubtful that any municipal government is going to make any money off of this law.... unless one of these corporate health insurance megapolies actually PAYS their local taxes.


The corporations were designed by us to protect us from expanding government...one of the largest "Brothers" we had on the chess board has fallen..Hospitals and The Working Class, that provide the services in all ranges of that job description from Hospital CEO to Janitor...All are now govenrment Pool employees...another yoke upon my back.

Pennies you say pennies a day another penny gone away.

Geezus, what a completely backwards spew of complete Randtardism :rolleyes:

Sensible Shoes
11-12-2013, 08:01 PM
I haven't switched mine over yet - I'm a bit afraid.

FORD
11-12-2013, 09:42 PM
Just don't get caught agreeing with Moosealini, like ELVIS and Thomecarrot do.........

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Sensible Shoes
11-12-2013, 09:53 PM
HOw can anybody agree with that, when it makes no fuckin' sense?

Sensible Shoes
11-12-2013, 10:00 PM
I wonder what health insurance Dave has?

Seshmeister
11-13-2013, 12:31 AM
The corporations were designed by us to protect us from expanding government...one of the largest "Brothers" we had on the chess board has fallen...


Extraordinary...


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FORD
11-13-2013, 12:36 AM
Well, obviously one of the downsides of being a musician is that you don't have the "employer based coverage" that is the standard model in the US.

Of course when you reach Van Halen's level of success, you can afford to pay for doctor appointments, and even hospital visits out of pocket. Musicians who don't have platinum albums and sold out concert tours aren't so lucky..... even some reasonably well known guys like ex-Replacements guitarist Slim Dunlap, whose former bandmates had to make a new record to pay off his hospital bills after a stroke.

Nitro Express
11-13-2013, 02:28 AM
What a shock! I mean, I remember when HMO's let you see any doctor you wanted back during NEVER!

LOL

Yeah but you had the choice not to belong to an HMO. I always could choose my doctor.

Nitro Express
11-13-2013, 02:32 AM
Corporations are us, my brother, the working class a total different item than a government.

You cannot seem to grasp that concept the corporation is the working class .

It doesn't matter if the money off our backs goes to the corps the corps protect us from the government strong arm robbery.

The corps are all we have to keep the money and freedom in the private sector.

The corps are OUR TOOL to protect our monies.

You must understand this.

A corporation is simply a legal entity that makes the share holders not liable for what the corporations does. Corporations can be good or they can be bad. They need to be regulated by elected officials and the citizens better stay on top of those officials or you end up in the mess we are in. When corporations collude with the government it's fascism.

Obama may have been raised with a marxist ideology but he works for bankers. The bankers run the show and the Mother of all banks is the Bank of International Settlements and are Federal Reserve falls under it. All our media has been bought up. Our largest banks have the same board members. Glass-Stegall was repealed so the stock markets are totally gamed with the banks owning the lions share of the equities. It's a conglomerate hell and now they are going to sell a socialist solution. Oh it may have a marxist flavor on the surface but it will be ran by bankers behind the curtain. Old money families who have played people off each other for a very long time.

We never got rid of the robber barons. They just went stealth and now they are bigger than ever. They put blackmailable flunkies into office and once they can game the markets they make more money doing that than building anything productive or creating jobs. They need a few worker ants and hey, let's dump the rest. Let's gear the healthcare so the old people die sooner. They just cost us money. Let's maybe get rid of the unhealthy too. Let's get everyone dependent and if they don't like it or rise up, we take their healthcare away, or we cut off their food stamps. Hmmm. Those people on food stamps don't do much for us and we no longer need their votes. Let's cut those off and have fun watching the riots and them killing each other. Yeah. That will get rid of them and entertain us.

qikgts
11-13-2013, 09:31 AM
If you don't carry heath coverage thru Obama Care you will be fined and then jailed.

Freedom has never been so on the edge as with that last sentence.

Nah. Come on now... Clicky... This is how it's gonna go down... (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/11/12/odonnell_obamacares_dirty_little_secret_is_the_ind ividual_mandate_is_unenforceable.html)

clarathecarrot
11-13-2013, 10:13 AM
Pick a side lock and load shut the fuck up and wait and see pussies.

Fines then Jail.

Strong Arm Robbery...just like a cop by the side of the road writing a little old lady a 5 miles over, the speed limit ticket.

Orders have been given and you will pay one way or the other.

You all sound so intelligent with your insatiable sense of book learn'n...your confused minds with all your trivia quotes.

The government is a machine and the ONLY barrier we have to total domination is CORPORATE POWER.

The Corps are us the working class a noble knight has fallen on the chess board thousands of years of sacrifice and duty to our fellow man has been bought for free by a retrograde legislative swipe of the sword....Doctors and Hospitals....and your right to choose medical care or do without is gone.

"Fines" then "Jail Time" they made that apperant right off the bat..pay or pay by force is not healthcare, it's communism.

qikgts
11-13-2013, 10:39 AM
Right to choose... Interesting choice of words there... lol

clarathecarrot
11-13-2013, 10:54 AM
Right to choose... Interesting choice of words there... lol

Off subject comment evidently to stoopid to follow along right there RIGHT FUCKING THERE!!!

Dense under the thumb dolts thinking the subject is onething and it isn't.

Are you, Geraldo Rivera ?

Maybe, Bill Moyers ?

Are you a tool of the media sent to set up a smoke screen that this subject has anything to do with the care and protection of the injured the needy wanting shelter the downtrodden needing attention ?

Do you take money to perpetuate lies ?

qikgts
11-13-2013, 11:06 AM
Off subject comment evidently to stoopid to follow along right there RIGHT FUCKING THERE!!!

Dense under the thumb dolts thinking the subject is onething and it isn't.

Are you, Geraldo Rivera ?

Maybe, Bill Moyers ?

Are you a tool of the media sent to set up a smoke screen that this subject has anything to do with the care and protection of the injured the needy wanting shelter the downtrodden needing attention ?

Do you take money to perpetuate lies ?


I thought this was all about healthcare. Damn. I hate being wrong.

Oh, you got me all figured out now! Yes. Yes. Yes and Yes.

clarathecarrot
11-13-2013, 11:19 AM
Great post, could be the same as every other one you have made.

So, are you going to comment about healthcare ?

Not one of your posts have been, just simple trolling.

They aren't even loosely vieled as commentary more like half assed jabs, flailed about.

So, now that the subject has become about what you wanted anything but healthcare what's next../?

qikgts
11-13-2013, 11:35 AM
Come on now, my first post in this thread was right on target.

Weren't you the one who started talking about guns and jail and calling everyone pussies? That's troll material right there veggie...

clarathecarrot
11-13-2013, 11:45 AM
So, I didn't get a cake for my b-day last week... so, last night I went to Dunkin Dougnuts and bought a dozed mixed little cakes and I have eaten most of them in the last 12 hours.

Stay on subject jackass the past is GONE!!!

ELVIS
11-13-2013, 12:17 PM
the past is GONE!!!

And it went by like dusk to dawn...;)

Nitro Express
11-13-2013, 03:40 PM
My doctor just went cash only. He could get rid of half his office staff because he doesn't need to process the insurance paperwork and he's cut his prices. Of course the government will try and shut this down but maybe just maybe enough people are seeing the light. Cash only on the small medical procedures and then have catastrophic coverage for the big stuff. Since most people are healthy the catastrophic coverage providers will make money.

We must remember the public did not want this legislation to begin with. They rammed it through on Christmas Eve and refused any time to see what they were passing. President Obama breaks the law by changing the law without congressional process. It's crap. The ACA is one of two things. It was written by connected insurance companies to run their competition out of business so they can enjoy monopoly pricing or it was designed to destroy the private insurance industry so a government ran program can come in. The government will have the monopoly. A government that has been completely taken over by bankers and no longer listens to the people. Oh yeah, it also breaks constitutional and international law by using bombs and missiles to kill people. Do you really want to give a corrupt government total power over your healthcare and your private health records? You just open yourself up to all sorts of black mail and black balling possibilities if you do. It's always stupid to put all your eggs in one basket. The more choice the better the more choice the cheaper the prices. It's called competition. There is already racketeering laws on the books. The one thing the government does have the responsibility to enforce is anti-racketeering laws and to make sure there is a free market. Hmmmm now the government is the monopoly and the racket.

Nickdfresh
11-13-2013, 07:55 PM
Yeah but you had the choice not to belong to an HMO. I always could choose my doctor.

You still do...

Nitro Express
11-14-2013, 01:08 AM
Don't make it sound like it's business as usual because it's not. If I don't purchase overpriced shit insurance I have to pay a fine (the government calls it a tax). It's all about running the private healthcare out of business so the government or connected insurance companies can have a monopoly on the care. Also, it intrudes more into our personal lives. Also, nothing like taxing medical equipment people need to stay alive and making that more expensive for people to buy. It's pure shit.

If you think the crooks who wrote this shit and passed this shit are going to give you single payer healthcare and a shoot your nuts over the rainbow utopia I have some ocean side property in Kansas to sell you.

Guitar Shark
11-14-2013, 02:21 AM
My doctor just went cash only.

That's an interesting business model, since a lot of people don't have enough disposable income to pay for their health care up front. Let's give it a year and we'll see how that works out for him.

It also creates some interesting decisions for him come tax time.

Nitro Express
11-14-2013, 03:46 AM
This is family practice doctor visits. Not major surgery. He can cut his overhead by cutting his office staff. People don't realize the amount of overhead insurance processing creates in a medical office. The price of care comes way down. People still seem to have the disposable income to buy smart phones, big screen televisions, to buy concert tickets, to eat out, and to go to the movies. The amusement parks seemed plenty busy this summer.

Providing the care is not where the expense is. It's the insurance. Healthcare cost a lot less when people had to pay more of it directly without going through an insurance provider. In the late 80's I saw plenty of people abusing employer provided insurance. I had a dentist trying to sell me cosmetic dentistry I did not need because my insurance would pay for it. Another doctor tried to get my wife on fertility drugs when she had no problem getting pregnant. Why? Our insurance would pay for it.

So there developed a big rip off circle jerk of the doctors and pharmaceutical companies ripping off the insurance companies and the liability lawyers driving up the cost of liability insurance and then the insurance companies used these rising costs as an excuse to price gouge us even more. It became a huge snowball of corruption. Then a bunch of crooks in Washington DC use this crisis (never let a crisis go to waste) to ram through the mother of all corruption. Not only does it give them control over our healthcare, it gives them control over our lives. It's very intrusive legislation.

So yeah. I'm all for cutting out all these middle men and dealing with my doctor directly. People in this country have it in their heads they have to go through a middle man but you pay more for the care that way.

Nitro Express
11-14-2013, 03:52 AM
That's an interesting business model, since a lot of people don't have enough disposable income to pay for their health care up front. Let's give it a year and we'll see how that works out for him.

It also creates some interesting decisions for him come tax time.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/11/news/economy/cash-only-doctors/

It's a growing trend. Doctor visits were more cash only before the 1960's. The system worked well. In the old days if you didn't have cash you bartered with the doctor. There's some funny stories of what the old time country doctors would take in as payment. Plus the federal reserve is going to tank. The BRICS countries are no longer using the US Dollar in their trade so 22% of the world's economy just dumped the dollar. People are trying to quietly sell their dollars so they don't get stuck with them. Eventually nobody here will want them. So unless someone comes up with another option barter is going to become a necessity. They did plenty of that in Russia after the Soviet Union just fell apart. Some communities over there actually set up time banks where people would barter their skills. In some cases it worked very well.

Nickdfresh
11-14-2013, 06:36 AM
http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/11/news/economy/cash-only-doctors/

It's a growing trend. Doctor visits were more cash only before the 1960's. The system worked well. In the old days if you didn't have cash you bartered with the doctor. There's some funny stories of what the old time country doctors would take in as payment. Plus the federal reserve is going to tank. The BRICS countries are no longer using the US Dollar in their trade so 22% of the world's economy just dumped the dollar. People are trying to quietly sell their dollars so they don't get stuck with them. Eventually nobody here will want them. So unless someone comes up with another option barter is going to become a necessity. They did plenty of that in Russia after the Soviet Union just fell apart. Some communities over there actually set up time banks where people would barter their skills. In some cases it worked very well.

Great! Hey Dr. Wallace! I have cancer! How much for that chemo? Will a hundo cover it?

Nickdfresh
11-14-2013, 06:45 AM
My doctor just went cash only. He could get rid of half his office staff because he doesn't need to process the insurance paperwork and he's cut his prices. Of course the government will try and shut this down but maybe just maybe enough people are seeing the light. Cash only on the small medical procedures and then have catastrophic coverage for the big stuff. Since most people are healthy the catastrophic coverage providers will make money.

That's complete horseshit, Pa Kettle. Most people are healthy when they're younger, which is EXACTLY the premise of Obamacare, forcing them to pay into actual health care rather then just using emergency rooms and stiffing everyone when they actually get sick. Or even allowing them to stay on their parents plans for longer. But EVERYONE will have a "catastrophic" event in their life. Dude, you have to be pushing 50 if you're not already beyond it. You think you're just going to pay cash for everything from here on out? Or do you factor in the "Government insurance" that is Medicare?


We must remember the public did not want this legislation to begin with. They rammed it through on Christmas Eve and refused any time to see what they were passing. President Obama breaks the law by changing the law without congressional process...

Complete unadulterated horseshit! I don't know where you get your "facts" from, other than your stinky asshole. But if you call it "Affordable Care Act" instead of "Obamacare" and even briefly give people the basic premise and idea, the VAST MAJORITY support it! Even the dolts who drool on themselves while watching the Fox Friends masturbate kittens in the morning. And it was a rather long legislative process certainly not just "jammed through" in one day...

ELVIS
11-14-2013, 09:54 AM
He said rammed, not jammed...

baru911
11-14-2013, 10:56 AM
Complete unadulterated horseshit! I don't know where you get your "facts" from, other than your stinky asshole. But if you call it "Affordable Care Act" instead of "Obamacare" and even briefly give people the basic premise and idea, the VAST MAJORITY support it! Even the dolts who drool on themselves while watching the Fox Friends masturbate kittens in the morning

Once again, Nick shoots his mouth off and has no facts to support his "VAST MAJORITY" statement. Hey, Nick the Dick did you see the latest poll on healthcare? This from the RIGHT WING programing giant CNN:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/11/14/poll-americans-approval-of-health-care-drops/comment-page-2/

"According to the Gallup poll released Thursday, 40% of Americans approve of the Affordable Care Act, while 55% disapprove."

The VAST MAJORITY now disapprove of the "Affordable Care Act".

Once again, Nick the Dick is WRONG.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

jhale667
11-14-2013, 11:28 AM
http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-poll.php

"Our unbiased ObamaCare poll paints a different picture of ObamaCare's approval rating compared to other polling done on ObamaCare's popularity. It turns out the more people know about the program, the more they like it. Remember ObamaCare Facts is a privately owned website run by two guys, we have no ties to any political party or organization and don't receive funding from anyone. Our only interest is in spreading awareness about what ObamaCare really does for America."

Nickdfresh
11-14-2013, 08:13 PM
Once again, Nick shoots his mouth off and has no facts to support his "VAST MAJORITY" statement. Hey, Nick the Dick did you see the latest poll on healthcare? This from the RIGHT WING programing giant CNN:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/11/14/poll-americans-approval-of-health-care-drops/comment-page-2/

"According to the Gallup poll released Thursday, 40% of Americans approve of the Affordable Care Act, while 55% disapprove."

The VAST MAJORITY now disapprove of the "Affordable Care Act".

Once again, Nick the Dick is WRONG.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh look, someone got back from their whitetrash Wal-Mart safari to completely mischaracterize what I said! Awesome. I said nothing about people supporting this particular law, which I've said sucks, or the abortion exchange websites they've set up. The vast majority of people support the central tenets behind Universal health care such as the right to purchase insurance nationally rather than being limited by their state boundaries, not being dropped or denied for preexisting conditions, and the expansion of Medicare and Medicaid. And many of the people that don't like Obamacare don't like it because they believe it doesn't go far enough. And my CNN, stupid? When the fuck have I ever said I watched that clusterfuck?

clarathecarrot
11-15-2013, 07:34 AM
The same crew of disolutioned media wa"tv"ching pundits are is this thread once again spouting generic falshoods generated by criminals on the news for simple fools.

Ok here how it GO!

Let's try and make it simple for, Nick and his minnions.

Dude walks up to me and has new glasses.

I say, did you get those thru your provision of eye care thru work.

He sais HELL,NO!!!..pay 1200$ per year into the company vision policy, to save 250$ on a 500$ pair of glasses do I look like a idiot,. I just went and bought them and pocketed,the 700$ I would have wasted.

I see you think clearly, you evidently, "get it".

Most people are one dimensional///"Health Care"......It would be wrong to be against HEALTH CARE>>>>(buzzwords for numb nuts)!!!!

90% of the people alive today in the USA, MAYBE!!! will got to the hospital and "NEED" doctors care "ONCE" in thier lives.

Do the MATH!!!!

The LAW is if you don't PAY they will remove it automatically from any federal return of garnishments or fines including a jailtime penalty.

Do the math....people who probably shop at WHOLE FOODS and pay 9$ for a frying hen because the package said NATURAL.

Angel
11-15-2013, 09:42 AM
Wow, your rates are ridiculous!

clarathecarrot
11-15-2013, 10:59 AM
Back when this Health jazz started tuning up I knew it would pass, wanna know why...Here how it go..

This is the greatest thing EVER!! for the Senators and The Legislators, Lawyers even Attorneys..and more than ever the Local City Councils.

Traffic Cops stopping you because of the possiblity you LOOKED like you weren't wearing your seat belt and the... I have the right to check your asshole!~!! since I had the set-up to pull you over without just cause to, SEE YOUR GODDAMNED AHCA CARD PUNK!!!

Ticket!!! park the car call the City proffitable thru graft, tow lot.

This is the greatest Boondoggle since the IRS do you all know how much job security has been created...the endless billing hours of, -NOT- going to Senate hearings, -Not- going the the Congressional Hall and sitting in your chair,
the, -NOT- voting on all the endless rewriting of every sentance in the 6000 pages outlines.

The "Major" -NOT- doing, that can be billed for and about, a "Job in Governement"..at least 50 years of manipulating nothing and recievieng -MONEY- for it, off the backs of the working class.

Like I said sissies ..open your fucking eyes it all has NOTHING to do with some benevolent legislator wanting to aid the infirmed.

Boondoggle Diplomatic job security off the backs of US!!!

AWESOME!!!

clarathecarrot
11-15-2013, 12:53 PM
Best thing about all this government faggoty is the payments of the individuals is based upon income and the below the poverty level people are still and exactly as before and as always, don't have to pay a thing or be liable to fines or retrobution, and must file under the gise of Medicaid OHHHH!!! FUCK ME!!!!!

Nothing has changed at alll !!!! AHHAHHHAAAHhhhh No healthcare for the poor still paid for the same way..!!!LOLOLOLOLOL

Or if you are a Native American....you know they live here but are for some reason not aplicable to the rules of the rest of society..lol....crack me the fuck up.

I wonder if NASCAR racers and extreem athletes and all the millions of un-insurable peoples due to job description Military..etc... only have to pay the cheaps pool monies as described in Obamacare HCRA outline of who must pay or be fined guidlines...I bet they are still uninsurable.

Somehow, the joke is still on us.

Satan
11-15-2013, 12:58 PM
Mental Health is covered under the ACA. Now you can get some help.

clarathecarrot
11-15-2013, 01:18 PM
Affordable Care Act...and pay $9.00 for a frying hen .. when right next to that hen is the same genetically same hen from the same Tyson egg laying facility probably cell mates, sitting right there without the buzzwords Natural and Healthy and Organic, for $2.00.

They have changed the name 5 times I still like, Health Care Reform Act, that desciptive was before they really got smart with trials on humans at the thinktank facility with the add campainers ( big expensive wallstreet firms) who believed it sounded too much like, STRONG ARM ROBBERY OF THE CURRENT MEDICAL CORPORATIONS.

clarathecarrot
11-15-2013, 01:31 PM
I am happy I spent the 80's in the advertising / photo bussiness it really is amazing how stoopid people are.

I am just sad that the FDA was smarter than me and bought the word Healthy and Organic back in th 1990's...OMG I could have made some bucks renting that set of words out.

Affordable..... Health..Care.....Affordable is the KILLER here Jim" we are going to sell the crap out of this who doesn't, first, last and allways want the "BEST" deal...it's all in that little package the right cross....BAM!!!!... Affordable...most people look little or nowhere beyond the first word...it will... SELL I TELL YOU, IT WILL SELL we don't even have to show up...BAMMMMM!!!

I mean (queitly now).... who doesn't want affordable healthcare....maybe two times in your life you think about that....BAM!!! we hit them with AFFORDABLE Bold New Times Roman real noteworthy to the thinking mans ability to read.... ..in neon outside the major highway up on that bilboard......man....it will get me a add sales award fo Sho!

Satan
11-15-2013, 02:41 PM
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2013/131115-sign-the-pledge-if-you-want-to-keep-your-old-plan.jpg

Satan
11-18-2013, 11:05 AM
http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/57770/large/TMW2013-11-20color.png

ELVIS
11-18-2013, 12:07 PM
That's the stupidest thing I ever read halfway through...

Satan
11-18-2013, 12:31 PM
You do realize that most (if not all) of the statements in that cartoon are actual verbatim quotes from Republicans, right?

ELVIS
11-18-2013, 03:55 PM
Who gives a rat's ass ??

Republicants are just as stupid as the Dumbocrats...

Satan
11-18-2013, 03:58 PM
Well, you're half right.....

The FALSE Demoncrats are every bit as stupid as the Republicans. And funded by the exact same corrupt assholes (KKKochs, Wall Street, etc.)

Actually, your name "Dumbocrats" is fitting, since Dumbo was an elephant, and the elephant is the Republican party symbol, and those phonies are Repukes pretending to be Demoncrats.

ELVIS
11-18-2013, 04:12 PM
Or vice versa...;)

Nitro Express
11-18-2013, 04:47 PM
Well, you're half right.....

The FALSE Demoncrats are every bit as stupid as the Republicans. And funded by the exact same corrupt assholes (KKKochs, Wall Street, etc.)

Actually, your name "Dumbocrats" is fitting, since Dumbo was an elephant, and the elephant is the Republican party symbol, and those phonies are Repukes pretending to be Demoncrats.

At the end of the day the only winners are the whores and the pimps.

Nitro Express
11-18-2013, 04:49 PM
Take out the insurance middle man the healthcare prices come way down. Now we need to work on those pesky lawyers. By the time I get done it will only cost $5 to have the doctor stick his finger up your ass.

Satan
11-18-2013, 04:58 PM
Take out the insurance middle man the healthcare prices come way down.

When did you become a single-payer advocate? http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d070.gif

clarathecarrot
11-19-2013, 10:35 AM
At the end of the day the only winners are the whores and the pimps.

Truer words tweren't ever spoketh..yeay tho.

In reality this legislation, the POOR still don't have healthcare for free or in any other way except what allready was Medicare/Medicaide.

"" and the elderly still the same Medicare and Medicaide and Tri-Care.

Same Glut on the taxbase same problems with the Medicare system ... Though it does really work well Medicare system is pretty good, and now a giant "additional tax" on the, Healthy.

What is Obame care..Strong Arm Robbery, of the middle Class who as a rule (this age and income group) rarely seek out Medical Treatments.

.....and have all the money.

Scientologists, American Indians, Muslims, Amish... ..all exempt...hmmmm wierd.......?

clarathecarrot
11-19-2013, 10:39 AM
And as ever and as before 15 FREE HEALTH CLINICS!!! in every city Nation Wide....

I mean it will cost you 45.00 for the on call doc to lance that boil on the democratic ass......but I am sure the dems would rather draft 6000 pages af assinine job security to the true glut on society the Federal Employees.....60% of wich should be fired due to lack of true need of thier job description.

Ohhh the money that would be freed up then....T

Satan
11-19-2013, 11:28 AM
And as ever and as before 15 FREE HEALTH CLINICS!!! in every city Nation Wide....

I mean it will cost you 45.00 for the on call doc to lance that boil on the democratic ass......but I am sure the dems would rather draft 6000 pages af assinine job security to the true glut on society the Federal Employees.....60% of wich should be fired due to lack of true need of thier job description.

Ohhh the money that would be freed up then....T

Yeah.... which would all have to go to pay their unemployment and food stamps, since there aren't any living wage private sector jobs to replace them.

ELVIS
11-19-2013, 12:56 PM
What the hell is a living wage private sector job ??

Satan
11-19-2013, 03:33 PM
Asked and answered already, Mr. Presley.

I guess that Alex Jones SuperTang™ isn't doing much for your memory. Perhaps you should try some Gingko Biloba?

clarathecarrot
11-20-2013, 12:51 PM
Have a RedBull instead it's got loads of that, Grondonite©®™ and Krondonian©®™ or whattever that shit is...