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FORD
03-07-2014, 11:17 PM
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This rare Viper at South Puget Sound Community College was ordered to be destroyed.

SPSCC ordered to crush rare Dodge Viper
By TONY OVERMAN
The Olympian
March 4, 2014


Automotive professors and students at South Puget Sound Community College were in shock Tuesday after being notified their $250,000 pre-production Dodge Viper SRT must be destroyed within two weeks.

“It’s like the day Kennedy was shot,” Norm Chapman, automotive technology professor at SPSCC, said. “No one will forget where they were when they heard the news.”

Steven Glasco, vehicle donations coordinator at Chrysler, confirmed that the complete collection of the educational donation Vipers nationwide must be crushed. He would not comment further on the numbers of vehicles or why the decision was made.

“All I can tell you is we sent a letter to the school,” Glasco said by telephone Tuesday afternoon.

Chapman said he was told by a company official that the destruction of 93 vehicles is the result of two educational Vipers that “got loose” and were involved in accidents, costing parent company Fiat millions of dollars.

Car companies regularly donate damaged, non-street-legal, or unsellable vehicles to high schools, colleges and tech schools to be used for training students. SPSCC has about 20 donated vehicles in its auto shop.

Part of the contract with the donated Viper reads that it will be destroyed if the company orders it to be.

The 1992 Dodge Viper is the fourth produced by the company.

The pre-production vehicle is not legal for street use and was never meant for resale. It has no emissions controls or speed limiters. It features a makeshift hard-top, making it a one-of-a-kind vehicle because the company did not make a production hardtop until 1996.

The Viper produces roughly 600 horsepower on a 2,200 pound fiberglass-body vehicle. It can go from zero to 60 mph in 3.8 seconds.

“It’s a beautiful car,” said student Mike Murphy of Yelm. “It was fun to work on.”

Automotive student Cierra Thomas and graduate Stormy Hudson said they plan to organize a petition asking Chrysler to let the school keep the educational vehicles.

“Chrysler is taking away from our education,” said Thomas. “We shouldn’t be punished for one school’s mistake.”

Chapman admits the Viper has limited educational value — few mechanics will ever have to work on such a specialized vehicle. But it is a prized promotional tool for the auto program, which displays the car at high schools and auto shows around the state.

“Everybody wants their picture taken with the Viper,” professor Bob Riggin said. He said visiting teachers and dignitaries often get to actually drive the car when it’s strapped down to the shop’s dynamometer. “This car belongs in a museum, not in a crusher,” he said, adding that Jay Leno had unsuccessfully tried to purchase the Viper for his personal collection.

Scot Keller, chief curator at LeMay-America’s Car Museum in Tacoma, said he would love to have a prototype Viper at the museum “These are magnificent cars,” he said. “Who wouldn’t want a Viper?”

But, having been a GM executive himself for many years, Keller said he knows that trying to rescue this one would almost certainly be pointless.

“I’m an enthusiast but also a realist,” he said. “In this case, I feel somewhat obligated to protect the industry. It’s easy to say, ‘Those doggone people in the industry.’ But having sat in a number of meetings on issues like this, I see the other side.

“It’s heartbreaking if you love cars,” Keller said, “but it’s the only thing companies can do to keep the cars from getting out there and people potentially being harmed in them because they are not up to standards.”

Chapman said his students will be washing and preparing the car for its final demise. They are not holding much hope that the car will be spared from the crusher. He said he will probably have to call someone to crush the car.

“I couldn’t do it,” Chapman said. “It’s like a family pet.”

Link (http://www.theolympian.com/2014/03/04/3016193/rare-sports-car-at-spscc-must.html#storylink=cpy)

Nitro Express
03-08-2014, 04:09 AM
I just watched a program on the soviet lunar program. They built two pads and two huge moon rockets. They didn't have the industrial capacity to build large rocket engines so instead of going with only five huge engines like we did, they went with 30 smaller ones. Both rockets exploded. The engineers thought they had the bugs worked out on the problem but the kremlin decided to nix the program and ordered everything destroyed.

Well these rocket engine engineers knew what they had accomplished. They had built state of the art engines and they were confident they would work. They just couldn't kill their creation. They moved the engines into a large warehouse and made it look on paper that everything had been destroyed.

When the soviet union fell people from the west came in looking to buy stuff. A representative from a US company looking for rocket engines was taken to the warehouse full of the old lunar rocket engines. He said it was like a whole forest of them. They took some back to the states and tested them. They were amazed. The engines were 30 years ahead of what was available in the west in the 90's and they were built in the 70's. They generated 25% more thrust and were made of special alloys that nobody had seen before. They used those soviet engines to put satellites in orbit.

So hide the Viper in a safe place. Get an old clunker paint it blue and crush it and then make the paper work look like the job has been done. Those cars are collectable and will be even more so in the future. If rocket scientists in the soviet union were willing to risk time in the gullag to save something they knew was worth saving and provided a useful purpose later, some people can conspire to save what will be a classic car. People will thank them in the future for their deception.

Hardrock69
03-08-2014, 03:24 PM
I just watched a program on the soviet lunar program. People will thank them in the future for their deception.


There should be a sudden rash of "auto thefts" sweeping the country......where the stolen vehicle is one of these vipers....

Interesting anecdote about the rocket engines....

ashstralia
03-09-2014, 04:24 AM
My uncle has a country place, that no one knows about.

:yo:

Igosplut
03-12-2014, 09:08 PM
Chrysler can't legally sell it (DOT, etc) so that's the only avenue per corporate directive.

78/84 guy
03-12-2014, 09:23 PM
What a bunch of shit !!! My brother has a green 95 Viper. Fun stuff !!

Igosplut
03-12-2014, 09:30 PM
Yea, but that one isn't DOT approved so no resale.

78/84 guy
03-12-2014, 09:41 PM
Yea, but that one isn't DOT approved so no resale.

So crush it ?? I call bullshit. Put it in a museum or something. Fuck the thing survived 20 years. Why now ?

Igosplut
03-12-2014, 09:48 PM
Sure they could do that. But if I'm not mistaken, The big three all have policy's that mandate destroying experimental/non-sale cars (like demos). They can get hung by the government by letting non-approved cars let go. It is a strict law.

78/84 guy
03-12-2014, 10:01 PM
Shit there are tons of pre production show cars and experimental cars from the 50's and 60's still floating around out there. What makes these cars different. But just like it says. If your a car guy you wont like it. I don't !

Igosplut
03-12-2014, 10:02 PM
Time man time. They don't let that stuff slip though anymore. I get what you're saying, but in today's world it doesn't happen anymore.

78/84 guy
03-12-2014, 10:03 PM
And fuck our government !!!!!!!!!!! The same people trying to ban our old classic cars from the road ! Nothing but a bunch of clueless criminals !! But don't get me started. And that's just on the car stuff.

Satan
03-12-2014, 10:06 PM
Here's a followup from the local fish wrapper... so far, the "date of execution" hasn't been set yet.......

Fate of Viper at SPSCC prompts outcry

By Andy Hobbs

The Olympian (http://www.theolympian.com/2014/03/12/3030308/fate-of-viper-at-spscc-prompts.html#storylink=cpy)
March 12, 2014


The destruction of a rare 1992 Dodge Viper GRT at South Puget Sound Community College has touched a nerve among car enthusiasts nationwide.

The Olympian recently reported about the heartbroken automotive students who took care of the $250,000 sports car. Automotive technology professor Norm Chapman had received a notice from Chrysler that the company planned to destroy its fleet of educational Vipers. The college’s Viper was among dozens donated to schools across the country.

The news sparked a Twitter campaign called #SaveTheVipers where fans have expressed outrage or suggested alternatives to crushing the cars. SPSCC students launched the online petition “Operation Save the Vipers,” which had gathered 8,428 signatures as of noon Tuesday. A few online commenters even advocated stealing and hiding the Viper, which is not street legal. Canadian race team Johnathan Schwemler Racecars announced it would ask Chrysler to donate the car toward the team’s program for injured or ill soldiers and veterans.

The number of cars headed for the junkyard was initially reported at 93, but Chrysler told Detroit media outlets that the number was around 35 in the U.S.

Citing standard procedure, Chrysler has announced that the pre-production Vipers must be destroyed because they no longer serve educational purposes. In a statement to the media, Chrysler reported that no records exist of legal action involving its donated Vipers at educational institutions. The company denies any reports of the vehicles being involved in accidents or liability lawsuits.

“With advancements in automotive technology over the past decade, it is unlikely that these vehicles offer any educational value to students,” according to the company, which added that these Vipers have no historical significance and will not be preserved.
In the meantime, the automotive program at SPSCC has accepted the Viper’s fate.

Chapman has heard some legal theories that might allow the college to claim ownership. However, Chapman said the college has no interest in fighting the car’s destruction in court, and said that a legal challenge may cause manufacturers to shy away from donating vehicles.

“We might win in court, but we’d lose in the long run,” he said last week.

Chapman and the staff are not against the destruction of the Vipers, but only this particular vehicle. The college’s car is different from the rest because of its blue paint, hardtop and status as the fourth Viper ever made.

“If this were a red convertible, I wouldn’t say anything,” he said. “My only point is this one is unique.”

Chrysler set no deadline to destroy the car, but asked that it be done “expeditiously.”

Igosplut
03-12-2014, 10:10 PM
People making laws just for the sake of making them. Any old car that someone owns is driven so few miles that it makes a negligible impact on pollution/gas consumption/other to the overall picture. It's all politics.

Igosplut
03-12-2014, 10:13 PM
If Chrysler isn't willing to title the car (without complying to DOT that's not possible) the car can't legally be sold by them per government laws.

78/84 guy
03-12-2014, 10:15 PM
Well hey, we got people starvin' in the streets and less and less jobs but this is the shit they worry about. I seen a story on MSN about a law being passed about how loud a fucking movie theater can be. FUCKING SERIOUS ???? !!! My god they need too be overfucking thrown !!

Satan
03-12-2014, 10:57 PM
I wonder if executed cars go to Hell?

I mean, they must get here somehow, right? If that's the case, I'll take good care of it.

Nitro Express
03-13-2014, 12:44 AM
Well hey, we got people starvin' in the streets and less and less jobs but this is the shit they worry about. I seen a story on MSN about a law being passed about how loud a fucking movie theater can be. FUCKING SERIOUS ???? !!! My god they need too be overfucking thrown !!

The people making the laws aren't out of work. They live in a bubble and get rich from bribes and insider trading in the rigged Wall Street casino. You don't get rich serving the people. You get rich serving multinational corporations like Serco.

Nitro Express
03-13-2014, 12:44 AM
People making laws just for the sake of making them. Any old car that someone owns is driven so few miles that it makes a negligible impact on pollution/gas consumption/other to the overall picture. It's all politics.

Laws are made to be broken.

Nitro Express
03-13-2014, 12:49 AM
So crush it ?? I call bullshit. Put it in a museum or something. Fuck the thing survived 20 years. Why now ?

The DOT probably won't survive another 20 years. I got collectables from the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany. Both feared but no longer exist.