Roth Army

[WARF]

i got an important announcement to make. I guess it's more like a public apology. This shouldn't be in main discussion but I have the need to address a few things. Sometime in the middle of 2012 I suffered a series if tragic events that led me into alcoholism. I made many poor decisions and my behavior here was erratic and I was a complete asshole to many people. I'm not saying I am completely at fault. I was drinking close to liter of vodka a day. I should have been more respectful to the people who have given me so many years of loyalty. The people who sent me to Cafe Wha? (Va Beach and staff) and honored me with the biggest event in Van Halen's history.

I apologize to everyone who I disrespected over the past couple years. Sesh, sarge, the mods, and everyone else. I can honestly say I don't remember most of my actions. I am also prepared to take any lumps in the comments that follow this post. I love you guys. I am truly sorry for betraying many of you.

=WARF=

[ELVIS]

Do you remember sucking Krusty's cock ??

[WARF]

Do you remember sucking Krusty's cock ??

Of course, ELVIS....

Her Jizz has the sweet taste of legalized marijuana....

Anyways... That's my public apology. You can dump this if you want.

I may have been right on some things but overall I should been more respectful to this site instead of drinking myself to an oblivion and trolling and fucking with people in near blackout condition . I quit drinking and I want to be a better person than I was going berserk on everyone.

[twonabomber]

I'm not saying I am completely at fault.

Then it isn't much of an apology. Thanks for nothing.

edit...what is this, the third or fourth one of these? Should have just stayed true to your style and bumped the old ones.

[WARF]

Twonabomber there was a lot of shit that happened that was wrong from both sides of the fence with different mods and members. I'm apologizing publicly for my faults. I've made many poor decisions. I'm truly sorry to the staff and founders of this site, I should have been more respectful to this site who gave me Cafe Wha? I'm a drunk. I'm sober now and I hope I can reconcile with those I've treated like shit.

[Nitro Express]

I was drinking close to liter of vodka a day.

Hell that's breakfast for a russian grandmother. Now what's your problem again?

[WARF]

Higgins, I heard you make White Russians with your Cheerios in the morning.... ;)

[Nitro Express]

Twonabomber there was a lot of shit that happened that was wrong from both sides of the fence with different mods and members. I'm apologizing publicly for my faults. I've made many poor decisions. I'm truly sorry to the staff and founders of this site, I should have been more respectful to this site who gave me Cafe Wha? I'm a drunk. I'm sober now and I hope I can reconcile with those I've treated like shit.

I disagree. People want to be entertained. Without drama caused by a drunken wildman, this site would just be some people arguing over the same old political shit, talking about sports, the weather, and musical instruments and equipment. Scout camp is always funner when you raid the other troop's camp and piss in their camp fire. Then you prepare for the backlash. Peace sells but nobody is buying it.

[Nitro Express]

Do you remember sucking Krusty's cock ??

That's not a cock. It's a clitorus. A big one. Give it a tickle with your tongue and enjoy the sweet taste of legalized Colorado weed! Fuck E-Cigarettes. There are better ways of enjoying tasty juice.

[Nitro Express]

Higgins, I heard you make White Russians with your Cheerios in the morning.... ;)

Naw. I have black russians in the morning. I'm addicted to Kahlua. I have to have my coffee in the morning ya know.

[WARF]

I agree message boards can be boring without trolls or wild, out of control drunk people etc etc.... I apologize to Va beach , and the founders. There was no need for myself to be involved in another website or attempting to destroy the site which has done so much for me. That was my biggest mistake. I honestly don't remember half the shit I was writing at the time. I'm not using that as a excuse. I was wrong to start jihad against some of the mods. I know there will be backlash and my reputation is destroyed with some people. I know some people supported my actions. The bottom line is I shouldn't have taken the fight between me and lounge to the level it was. The bottom line was I was wrong to treat the staff like shit. It was total disrespect to Sarge.

[WARF]

Naw. I have black russians in the morning. I'm addicted to Kahlua. I have to have my coffee in the morning ya know.

Higgins , you fucking rule brother. The posts you made in the now defunct DLRF were legendary. You had me in tears in some of your mod room posts.

[Nitro Express]

I agree message boards can be boring without trolls or wild, out of control drunk people etc etc.... I apologize to Va beach , and the founders. There was no need for myself to be involved in another website or attempting to destroy the site which has done so much for me. That was my biggest mistake. I honestly don't remember half the shit I was writing at the time. I'm not using that as a excuse. I was wrong to start jihad against some of the mods. I know there will be backlash and my reputation is destroyed with some people. I know some people supported my actions. The bottom line is I shouldn't have taken the fight between me and lounge to the level it was. The bottom line was I was wrong to treat the staff like shit. It was total disrespect to Sarge.

Ok. You forgot about the sex tape of you with midgets and farm animals. Since you feel true remorse I will just keep it locked up in the underground salt mines for now.

[Nitro Express]

Higgins , you fucking rule brother. The posts you made in the now defunct DLRF were legendary. You had me in tears in some of your mod room posts.

I penned some of my best poetry on those walls.

[WARF]

:lol:

I don't fuck with animals....

It's 430 in the morning and I have insomnia...

I also just discovered that jiffylube.com is the worst porn site I've ever seen!!

[Nitro Express]

I did a big ass kettlebell workout. I'm sore as hell. I ate too many burritos for dinner. Cheap tequila gets you just as drunk as the expensive stuff and I'm filling the room full of Domican cigar smoke. I'm watching naked female oil wrestling and want to jump into the whole gaggle and confuse myself.

[WARF]

I'm fucking done with booze, all I got now is my weed and my e-cigarettes. Actually I found a way to put weed in my e-cigarette lol

[vandeleur]

Regrets I've had a few , but then again to few to mention .

Mate if comeback are good enough for frank they are good enough for you .

And I bet you must of had to pm a shit load of apologies :D

[vandeleur]

Oh and bring back Donniep he was always your funniest alias :biggrin:

[WARF]

I've sent apologies to everyone I know with the exceptions of people I don't know how to contact. The ironic part is I pretty much turned into the character I portrayed on BRIGHT EYE COUNSELING! LOL

[WARF]

Oh and bring back Donniep he was always your funniest alias :biggrin:

Donnie and me pretty much have the same perspective on VH, we are waiting for a reunion with Michael Anthony. Wolf is a great kid , he got Eddie out of bed and into sobriety. My passion for Van Halen and the return of the six pack lineup is my only interest. Give us mike back... Fuck it.... Bring back Ted Templeman too. We need Mikes harmonies for one final album and tour.

[vandeleur]

Donniep is the coolest fucker on here , and probably hit up most people with free van halen dvd's which shows you how much of a true fan he is .

[vandeleur]

I have a morbid curiosity over how forgiving people will be ... Let's be fair WARF you were a cunt .

To put it bluntly :D

[WARF]

Momshell is also the person to thank she gave many dvd's to him. I still got my stack. I'm convinced No Hokds BBQ is a masterpiece.

[vandeleur]

Yeah momshell is a groovy fucker to .
Some of my fav nights on here were the first gigs back and people shouting out the songs they were playing .

[WARF]

Momshell fucking rocks !!

She outed the man noting Asian at Cafe Wha? As a Van Hagar fan from high school.

She's awesome... Make sure you send out positive thoughts for her.

[WARF]

I have a morbid curiosity over how forgiving people will be ... Let's be fair WARF you were a cunt .

To put it bluntly :D

It's true, but if I could be blunt... Everyone likes watching a train wreck. War is inevitable. There's been about a ton of wars at this site.

Links vs. Roth - that was a bloodbath. All I remember is sesh was the first person to ever play music at this site. In the midst of fighting he embedded a Whiney Houston song. It didn't stop the war but it was hysterical for its time.

There's just too much shit behind closed doors with fighting, betrayal etc etc ...

I stepped over the line by organizing troups in a full scale war... I brought flappo into the mix lol

Flappo was my ACE OF SPADES.....I just snapped my finger and the whole damn site was decorated in popgears.

Anyways, I'm not getting into this shit... The bottom line was I was the leader of the rebellion.

I organized a massive gang to cause total chaos... We were relentless...

I was a cunt... Sorry fellas....

What else can I say? I'm still here...

It's an open letter of apology.... I don't give a fuck if you like me or hate me...

I betrayed sarge and staff who gave me the greatest VH gig in history.

I was a cunt ... Plain and simple ...

I'm a pinyata... Hit me with a stick...

Fire away ...

[TFM_Dale]

All the other websites failed so try and make good here? I don't buy it but good luck with your fight against alcoholism, I don't wish that on anybody.

[WARF]

Dale, I honestly don't even give a shit about message boards. I didn't even really have to post a public apology. I don't hold any grudges with people. I'm trying my best to be a better person. I'm a monster when I'm drunk and I sincerely want to make things right for anything I've done wrong here.

[Angel]

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...

I've seen/heard too many of your apologies. They never last long. I don't hold grudges...but in your case I'll make an exception.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

As we've discussed privately in the past WARFy, I'm happy to see you've sought help with the booze....

I would hope this puts a finality to the personal info shenanigans....

[WARF]

It's over Va Beach, I went through a series of traumatic events and I was bitter and drunk 16-20 hours a day. I'm not trying excuse my action or use that as a crutch. I'm saying I fucked up. I don't really even wanna be an active member. I'm done with message boards. I'm doing better now. I got a new job, car, apartment. I worked my ass off to get where I am today. Every time I hear a Van Halen song I think about this place.... The glory days of when it started. There's a magic about this band that transcends the music. It's an attitude. I try to incorporate it into my lifestyle. The rothisms,the women, the booze ( not anymore) the music has a feel good vibe and it's all pure attitude. I think it took for me some clarity to realize some of the mistakes I've made. I've said some real nasty shit. Most if which I can't remember saying. I truly am sorry but most importantly I want Sarge to know that my biggest regret is joining another site out if spite. We had a great staff at the DLRF but the sole purpose of the site was to troll her and piss people off. I'm not speaking on behalf of the rest of the staff but those were my intentions and I'm now realizing how fucked up it was. This is has nothing to do with lounge and envy and all the other fights. I fucking stabbed sarge and you in the back... Plain and simple...

[PETE'S BROTHER]

meanwhile, back at the ranch...

[Nickdfresh]

Warf, in all seriousness, as Dale and VA have said, I would never wish alcohol addiction on anyone. In fact, I have found the following site, which rather skeptical of both 12-step(s to jeabus) organizations like AA and disingenuous medical studies fraught with bias:

http://www.hamsnetwork.org/

[Nickdfresh]

I disagree. People want to be entertained. Without drama caused by a drunken wildman, this site would just be some people arguing over the same old political shit, talking about sports, the weather, and musical instruments and equipment. Scout camp is always funner when you raid the other troop's camp and piss in their camp fire. Then you prepare for the backlash. Peace sells but nobody is buying it.

Is that why the other sites failed?

[vandeleur]

The problem with apologies is that they can demand explanation and or rake up old shit in the process .

You don't get clean washing yourself in dirty water .


Just a thought .

[DLR Bridge]

I didn't sign on here to watch drunken arguments. Those are much better when you witness them at a bar or something, but it writing? Yikes. This place does just fine with discussion, debate and lots of laughter IMHO.

Best of luck to you WARF.

[WARF's Vagina]

why is this shit in Main?

[ELVIS]

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...

I've seen/heard too many of your apologies. They never last long. I don't hold grudges...but in your case I'll make an exception.

Typical anti-male nastiness...

[Fairwrning]

I'm fucking done with booze, all I got now is my weed and my e-cigarettes. Actually I found a way to put weed in my e-cigarette lol

Welcome to the club...if ya fall off the wagon stay away from the keyboard...Good luck Warf...

[TFM_Dale]

Welcome to the club...if ya fall off the wagon stay away from the keyboard...Good luck Warf...

You watch the girls sober? Wow, I am in awe.

[Nickdfresh]

I watch the Bills sober, it's not til shortly after halftime I'm completely obliterated... :)

[Fairwrning]

You watch the girls sober? Wow, I am in awe.

Sober..yea...but usually stoned

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Sober..yea...but usually stoned

not enough weed in the world... :biggrin:

[Fairwrning]

Just wait til we sign that Cript from Philly...

[kwame k]

I agree message boards can be boring without trolls or wild, out of control drunk people etc etc.... I apologize to Va beach , and the founders. There was no need for myself to be involved in another website or attempting to destroy the site which has done so much for me. That was my biggest mistake. I honestly don't remember half the shit I was writing at the time. I'm not using that as a excuse. I was wrong to start jihad against some of the mods. I know there will be backlash and my reputation is destroyed with some people. I know some people supported my actions. The bottom line is I shouldn't have taken the fight between me and lounge to the level it was. The bottom line was I was wrong to treat the staff like shit. It was total disrespect to Sarge.

You know that you and your TeamButtHurt completely ruined this site for me........the fucking bullshit that was allowed and the vile personal attacks that were allowed/encouraged pretty much put this entire site one level above shit!

Man up and apologize directly to the people you attacked and shared their personal information on here and other sites.......or jump back in the bottle and fucking die!

[TFM_Dale]

I would need a bong big enough to hold Willie Nelson's entire stash to make it through even one quarter of cheering for rHomo.

[Nickdfresh]

Just wait til we sign that Cript from Philly...

I suspect he's gonna visit a few teams by driving by... :)

[TFM_Dale]

You know that you and your TeamButtHurt completely ruined this site for me........the fucking bullshit that was allowed and the vile personal attacks that were allowed/encouraged pretty much put this entire site one level above shit!

Man up and apologize directly to the people you attacked and shared their personal information on here and other sites.......or jump back in the bottle and fucking die!

Exactly, and a lot of people feel the same way.

[WARF]

Welcome to the club...if ya fall off the wagon stay away from the keyboard...Good luck Warf...

I don't really have much more to say. I appreciate having an opportunity to check in here from time to time. Anyone who has known me over the course if the past 14 years knows that I was completely out of character the past couple years. I thank you all for any support given.

[Fairwrning]

I suspect he's gonna visit a few teams by driving by... :)

:lol:

[Fairwrning]

Lets hope whoever signs him doesnt wear red

[WARF]

Sober..yea...but usually stoned

I smoke weed out of my e-cigarette. It's a crowd pleaser at Dunkin Donuts....

[Fairwrning]

I was gonna try Hash oil but cant find any

[TFM_Dale]

Just wait til we sign that Cript from Philly...

He doesn't hang out with gang members, he just takes pictures with them and throws gang signs and, um, well, yeah, he is a dumb ass.

[WARF]

You know that you and your TeamButtHurt completely ruined this site for me........the fucking bullshit that was allowed and the vile personal attacks that were allowed/encouraged pretty much put this entire site one level above shit!

Man up and apologize directly to the people you attacked and shared their personal information on here and other sites.......or jump back in the bottle and fucking die!

I've made my apologies and I have nothing to do with making popgears. I think I made one and I fucked it up. I'm not accountable for the popgears and google earths that was allowed for a month straight I don't run this site. I am apologizing for anything I am accountable for. Attacks come from both sides as well. I've read lots of nasty shit that over the past couple years that didn't involve me. As I said before I am not the only guilty party. I've tried to message everyone that I insulted or attacked. I don't think any one person can ruin a web site. It would take a series of events to make that happen. Dale, jhale, lounge I can't say I was the only one wrong throwing out personal attacks, names etc etc... I don't wanna go back and open old wounds. I am sorry for attacking you guys. Like I said I didn't make the popgears but I encouraged everyone to do it. That's my fault, the rest I have no control over. I'm sorry for whatever drunken rants or personal attacks. I'm not mad at any of you guys. I don't wanna be that person who cowardly disappears after starting armeggedon (did I spell that right, or do I have to go get my hysteria cd for auto correct?)

Lots of people called out first names. So I apologize to Nick for calling his name out and whatever other nonsense I said. All I had was a keyboard and bottle next to my hand. Don't remember what I said... I think I said he looks like Alfred E Newman... I can't apologize for that Von Halen confirmed that. LOL

That is all...

Oh....

Don't throw glass houses if your stoned....

[kwame k]

I've made my apologies and I have nothing to do with making popgears. I think I made one and I fucked it up. I'm not accountable for the popgears and google earths that was allowed for a month straight I don't run this site. I am apologizing for anything I am accountable for. Attacks come from both says as well. I've read lots if nasty shit that over the past couple years that didn't involve. As I said before I am not the only guilty party. I've tried to message everyone that I insulted or attacked. I don't any one person can ruins web site. It would take a series of events to make that happen. Dale, jhale, lounge I can't say I was the only one wrong throwing out personal etc etc... I don't wanna go back and open old wounds. I am sorry for attacking you guys. Like I said I didn't make the popgears but I encouraged everyone to do it. That's my fault, the rest I have no control over. I'm sorry for whatever drunken rants or personal attacks. I'm not mad at any if you guys. I don't wanna be that person who cowardly disappears after starting armeggedon (did I spell that right, or do I have to go get my hysteria cd for auto correct?)

Lots if people called out first names. So I apologize to Nick for calling his name out and whatever other nonsense I said. All I had was a keyboard and bottle next to my hand. Don't remember what I said... I think I said he looks like Alfred E Newman... I can't apologize for that Von Halen confirmed that. LOL

That is all...

Oh....

Don't throw glass houses if your stoned....

Cool.......

[ELVIS]

Fuck off, WARF !!

Lets commence to fightin' !!!


:mad2:

[Nickdfresh]

It's not a problem Warf... :) Good luck with everything and I hope you do feel better laying off the sauce...

As far as the site being "ruined," no one can ruin it for me except for Van Halen not doing anything as they slowly age past their ability to stand and deliver on stage each night...

[TFM_Dale]

I've made my apologies and I have nothing to do with making popgears. I think I made one and I fucked it up. I'm not accountable for the popgears and google earths that was allowed for a month straight I don't run this site. I am apologizing for anything I am accountable for. Attacks come from both sides as well. I've read lots of nasty shit that over the past couple years that didn't involve. As I said before I am not the only guilty party. I've tried to message everyone that I insulted or attacked. I don't think any one person can ruin a web site. It would take a series of events to make that happen. Dale, jhale, lounge I can't say I was the only one wrong throwing out personal attacks, names etc etc... I don't wanna go back and open old wounds. I am sorry for attacking you guys. Like I said I didn't make the popgears but I encouraged everyone to do it. That's my fault, the rest I have no control over. I'm sorry for whatever drunken rants or personal attacks. I'm not mad at any if you guys. I don't wanna be that person who cowardly disappears after starting armeggedon (did I spell that right, or do I have to go get my hysteria cd for auto correct?)

Lots if people called out first names. So I apologize to Nick for calling his name out and whatever other nonsense I said. All I had was a keyboard and bottle next to my hand. Don't remember what I said... I think I said he looks like Alfred E Newman... I can't apologize for that Von Halen confirmed that. LOL

That is all...

Oh....

Don't throw glass houses if your stoned....

This proves it is a empty apology and yet another troll attempt. "I'm sorry but it isn't my fault" "I had a hand in it but it was allowed". Man up and apologize or get fucked. Easy as that.

[TFM_Dale]

Good luck with everything and I hope you do feel better laying off the sauce...

100% agree with that. Of everything he said that is what I am hoping is true. Used to be a cool dude.

[WARF]

This proves it is a empty apology and yet another troll attempt. "I'm sorry but it isn't my fault" "I had a hand in it but it was allowed". Man up and apologize or get fucked. Easy as that.

What the hell do you want Dale? I'll put my hand on my Larry bird jersey ( I don't have a bible ) and swear to you I didn't take any ofyour pics and give them to flappo. I'm sorry your pics were desicrated and the bullshit of whatever I said at 3 am in the shout box. I'm not gonna re-open old scabs. I am being accountable for myself. I have NOTHING To gain by this. I am telling you that I am sorry from my end of any wrong doings.

That's fucking it... End of story... We can dig up the past or you can say. "Fuck you" I didn't make any popgears of you and I'm sorry for encouraging others to do any of that nonsense.

It's your call man.

No hard feelings ... I just want a new Van Halen record and a back to back championships from the Red Sox....

[kwame k]

I'm all for the forgiving part but don't think for a second I'm forgetting all the vile shit that was done to people here..............suicide photos when someone may or may not of been on the verge!

That's about as fucking low as you can get!

[WARF]

Hey Kwame you know.... After I'm about halfway through the label if someone starts flapping their mouth at me who the fuck knows what will happen. It was fucked up posting the suicide photos. If you think I was rude to jhale or lounge... I was a saint compared to the shit I said to angel. That's me... That's my wrong. I didn't come back here for a sympathy party or wanting to blame my actions over grey goose and red bull cocktails ( which I fucking miss... Or even better fireball whiskey with Apple cider....anyways....) if I said it I apologize. I just wanna make things right and if I can't then fuck it....

[TFM_Dale]

What the hell do you want Dale? I'll put my hand on my Larry bird jersey ( I don't have a bible ) and swear to you I didn't take any ofyour pics and give them to flappo. I'm sorry your pics were desicrated and the bullshit of whatever I said at 3 am in the shout box. I'm not gonna re-open old scabs. I am being accountable for myself. I have NOTHING To gain by this. I am telling you that I am sorry from my end of any wrong doings.

That's fucking it... End of story... We can dig up the past or you can say. "Fuck you" I didn't make any popgears of you and I'm sorry for encouraging others to do any of that nonsense.

It's your call man.

No hard feelings ... I just want a new Van Halen record and a back to back championships from the Red Sox....

The apology without any clauses, in my opinion that is what you owe everybody. I hope you mean it, we used to get along rather well. Regardless if you do or not best of luck to you and thank you for the apology.

[kwame k]

Hey Kwame you know.... After I'm about halfway through the label if someone starts flapping their mouth at me who the fuck knows what will happen. It was fucked up posting the suicide photos. If you think I was rude to jhale or lounge... I was a saint compared to the shit I said to angel. That's me... That's my wrong. I didn't come back here for a sympathy party or wanting to blame my actions over grey goose and red bull cocktails ( which I fucking miss... Or even better fireball whiskey with Apple cider....anyways....) if I said it I apologize. I just wanna make things right and if I can't then fuck it....

Hey brother, you're taking the right steps......stay sober!

[vandeleur]

Fuck this ,WARF is probably still stuck in a snow drift somewhere , this is just sesh hacking his account to get posts up :biggrin:

[kwame k]

Fuck! That tricky bastard!

[WARF]

I'm telling you guys. I'm fucking sorry. I'm not an asshole like I've portrayed myself the past couple years. I had one fall out in 2005 at DDLR and another one here in 2001 during the hitch war and the rumor was I was gonna mod at slawterhouse which never happened. I think of most of you guys as family. I'd like to meet some of you for a show or just shoot the shit about sports or music. I don't remember who I was or what happened the past couple years until I stopped drinking a couple months ago. I don't know that person. I went from making. 50k a year. I was a victim of home invasion in 2012 and woke up with a gun to my head... I started drinking after work every day cuz I didn't wanna go home. I'd drink from 5 pm til 2am or maybe just stay up the whole night... I'd do coke all day at work just to stay awake.... My lunch break I'd go to bar or drink a few nips. If I did too much coke I'd take a few Xanax , kpins, I was a fucking garbage disposal. I lost my gf, my license , everything.... I'm fucking dangerous man!!! I just smoke my weed now ... That's the fucking rule....
I recovered all my losses and I'm back on track. So there is my personal info.... Sorry for being a fucking cunt...

So there you go.... That's my scoop... Fire away......

[PETE'S BROTHER]

take stated :thumb:

[kwame k]

We've all been knocked down.....it's how you pick yourself up that counts!

I really do hope you're sincere and that you're turning your life around, buddy......I didn't want to believe what you turned into! Just kept hoping it was one of your gotcha tricks!

[WARF]

It's just water under the bridge....

I'm done drinking.... Unless I find out I'm terminally ill... then I'll do Molly, oc's , perc 30's coke, Xanax , kpins... I'll go out in a blaze of glory like Robin Crosby.... You know the dude from RATT... Or is that the other Crosby, Stills and Nash guy who gave his Sperm to Sarah McLaughlin or that other lipstick lesbo!!!! Cheers!!! I'm gonna drink my 6th monster energy drink and hope I wake up to see another day...

[kwame k]

Now that's the WARF I remember!!!!!!

[WARF]

Anyways... I digress...

My "MIND THE GAP " page on facebook is approaching 60,000 likes...

Sorry for the absence of trademarks I'm on my phone!

MIND THE GAP!

www.facebook.com/respectthegap

Conmee of you're on fb you can admin the page ...

[WARF]

This may also be premature but I got 6 pages with over 800,000 likes if u got a band u want promoted I'll hook u up .

[WARF]

List your fb page not your personal page and I'll link it on my 800,000 I'm fucking serious. I will make things right , I'll even promote my hit single "loser" from jhale cuz the riff is cool lol

[Angel]

I wish you well in your recovery. I'll forgive the person but not the actions. That said, it'll be a long time before I will trust you again...if ever.

And no matter what Elvis thinks, this has nothing to do with the fact that you have a penis...

[ELVIS]

Stay away from the penis !!!


:biggrin:

[WARF]

I wish you well in your recovery. I'll forgive the person but not the actions. That said, it'll be a long time before I will trust you again...if ever.

And no matter what Elvis thinks, this has nothing to do with the fact that you have a penis...

I'm sorry I went out of bounds with my attacks, I feel disgusted for what I said about your brother . I'm so sorry.

[fraroc]

i got an important announcement to make. I guess it's more like a public apology. This shouldn't be in main discussion but I have the need to address a few things. Sometime in the middle of 2012 I suffered a series if tragic events that led me into alcoholism. I made many poor decisions and my behavior here was erratic and I was a complete asshole to many people. I'm not saying I am completely at fault. I was drinking close to liter of vodka a day. I should have been more respectful to the people who have given me so many years of loyalty. The people who sent me to Cafe Wha? (Va Beach and staff) and honored me with the biggest event in Van Halen's history.

I apologize to everyone who I disrespected over the past couple years. Sesh, sarge, the mods, and everyone else. I can honestly say I don't remember most of my actions. I am also prepared to take any lumps in the comments that follow this post. I love you guys. I am truly sorry for betraying many of you.

=WARF=

I never thought you were a 100% bad guy, WARF. Even when you and CuntFlapps attacked me. I forgive you, dude. I live with an alcoholic myself so I know what chronic drinking does to people. My dad is as friendly and loving as can be when he's sober, but when he starts to drink, his attitude becomes shittier and shittier until he becomes this miserable bastard that no one wants to be around. Not me, not my mother, not even my nanny (his OWN mother). And of course, with the whole air conditioner episode, I will admit that I should have never provoked him. Yes, he was being a verbally and physically abusive asshole, but I should never had antagonized him and provoked him into attacking me. And this is a message from me to basically the entire site. I have some demons to let go myself. I fucked up too. I never should have picked fights with people for no reason. I thought I was doing the right thing by standing up for my character, but in reality all I was doing was being a major asshole to everyone on this site and I truly am sorry.

And also...I have a confession to make. I'm not 21, I'm 19. I accidentally put in my age wrong when I set up my profile and I just said, "fuck it" just go along with it. I fucking hate lying, so I'm going to come clean about that.

[ELVIS]

This ain't about your fucking air conditioning episode !!!


:mad2:

[Nitro Express]

I've made my apologies and I have nothing to do with making popgears. I think I made one and I fucked it up. I'm not accountable for the popgears and google earths that was allowed for a month straight I don't run this site. I am apologizing for anything I am accountable for. Attacks come from both sides as well. I've read lots of nasty shit that over the past couple years that didn't involve me. As I said before I am not the only guilty party. I've tried to message everyone that I insulted or attacked. I don't think any one person can ruin a web site. It would take a series of events to make that happen. Dale, jhale, lounge I can't say I was the only one wrong throwing out personal attacks, names etc etc... I don't wanna go back and open old wounds. I am sorry for attacking you guys. Like I said I didn't make the popgears but I encouraged everyone to do it. That's my fault, the rest I have no control over. I'm sorry for whatever drunken rants or personal attacks. I'm not mad at any of you guys. I don't wanna be that person who cowardly disappears after starting armeggedon (did I spell that right, or do I have to go get my hysteria cd for auto correct?)

Lots of people called out first names. So I apologize to Nick for calling his name out and whatever other nonsense I said. All I had was a keyboard and bottle next to my hand. Don't remember what I said... I think I said he looks like Alfred E Newman... I can't apologize for that Von Halen confirmed that. LOL

That is all...

Oh....

Don't throw glass houses if your stoned....

I miss the Popgears and personal attacks. Come on WARF. Knock the battery off my shoulder. I dare ya!

[vandeleur]

This ain't about your fucking air conditioning episode !!!


:mad2:


Fuck ,not another blower rant :D

[Nitro Express]

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...

I've seen/heard too many of your apologies. They never last long. I don't hold grudges...but in your case I'll make an exception.

Careful. Don't be too nice to WARF. He might kiss your hand.

[TFM_Dale]

I miss the Popgears and personal attacks. Come on WARF. Knock the battery off my shoulder. I dare ya!
Says volumes about you then.

[fraroc]

This ain't about your fucking air conditioning episode !!!


:mad2:

Listen you fuckface, If you think that I'm fucking trying to make it all about me then you're dead wrong. I'm simply telling it how it is. You can't possibly expect me to believe that you don't have any issues of your own you want to work out.

[ELVIS]

Not in WARF's cry baby thread I don't...

[TFM_Dale]

Not in WARF's cry baby thread I don't...

We could bump your goodbye thread and listen to your issues :)

[atomicpnk47]

And here I thought it was just Warf being Warf. I must say your karaoke was outstanding :biggrin:

Good luck man.

[Nitro Express]

why is this shit in Main?

WARF's Vagina. Kristie's dick. This place has become a sex change nightmare.

[Nitro Express]

Says volumes about you then.

At least I'm not into volumes of doughnuts and ice cream.

[Nitro Express]

Not in WARF's cry baby thread I don't...

WARF isn't crying. He just got loaded last night and lost his mind. He's probably doing karaoke tonight and that will probably either keep him out of jail and/or away from the computer.

[TFM_Dale]

At least I'm not into volumes of doughnuts and ice cream.

Stick to making up stories of grandeur, insults are not your strong suit. Maybe wave pom poms while others do the insulting, that was a good strategy for you.

[Nickdfresh]

It must be boring in Jackson's (ass)Hole :)

[fraroc]

Not in WARF's cry baby thread I don't...

NO!! You're just this perfect, well rounded individual who has his priorities straight.

[twonabomber]

I don't really have much more to say. I appreciate having an opportunity to check in here from time to time. Anyone who has known me over the course if the past 14 years knows that I was completely out of character the past couple years. I thank you all for any support given.

How is it completely out of character when it's happened before? Some of us predicted another apology was coming, we just didn't put a date on it.

[WARF]

It must be boring in Jackson's (ass)Hole :)

Can your avatar be popgear'd under the spit roast rule? lol

It's Alfred E. Newman!!!

[WARF]

How is it completely out of character when it's happened before? Some of us predicted another apology was coming, we just didn't put a date on it.

This is my first apology thread and I didn't have to do it. I dare you to find another one.

[ashstralia]

It's good of you to apologise WARF.

also to acknowledge the tremendous once in a lifetime honour bestowed upon you i.e. the cafe wha show.

Now don't be a fuckknuckle again, ok?
:D

[WARF]

Hey ash, like I've said there was lots of douchebaggery over the nonstop 2013 debacle. I'm not taking the sole blame. I just want to apologize for my part in the fiasco. I'm not coming back here full time. I will pop in occasionally for the main discussion or to discuss sports. I'll be far away from the flame wars and stuff like that. When you start posting 12 hours a day on message boards you can act like a real cunt and it's contagious.

[ashstralia]

Maybe that's the trick, I have an insanely busy life in the real world!

Get on a library computer and re-join brighteyes?..

:bigwink:

[WARF]

Me too now that I am employed again. I sat at my computer and collected unemployment from august 2012 til October last year lol drinking vodka and sniffing anything I could find for about a year straight lol

I went into a cocaine paranoid pyschosis from sniffin too many gaggers one time and thought someone was breaking into my place. I went around the perimeter of my home with a knife and a neighbor called the police... They got me on the staircase with a knife in my hand.... I put it at my neck and before I knew it I was strapped down in an ambulance and they put into a psych ward for about ten days.... Fun times....

Ahhhh... I gotta change my ways now!

Booze, drugs and cameltoes!!! LOL

[WARF]

Maybe that's the trick, I have an insanely busy life in the real world!

Get on a library computer and re-join brighteyes?..

:bigwink:

I can rejoin bright eyes now. I got a new IP address, I moved out of Boston for rehab and got a new job lol
This time I will seek advice from Lenora instead of putting her head photoshopped on to a beer bottle lol
Bright eye counseling brewing Co.
LOL

[WARF's Vagina]

Fuck off and die already WARF(ag). anyone with half a mind isn't falling for your bullshit. :gulp: you're just a lousy, self centered, demented attention whore.

[ELVIS]

NO!! You're just this perfect, well rounded individual who has his priorities straight.

And I can teach it to you for just four easy payments of $200...

[chefcraig]

And I can teach it to you for just four easy payments of $200...

Actually King, you were playing fast and loose with the pricing, yet that's cool, as I support free trade. The thing is, you could have offered the advice pamphlets along with the Bacon Bowl Cookbook for no extra charge at around 15-30 bucks.


http://i57.tinypic.com/29eke3p.jpg

Then once you had a hook in their mouth, offer to double the offer and include a free Magic Chop if they only pay three times the shipping!

[ThrillsNSpills]

I can rejoin bright eyes now. I got a new IP address, I moved out of Boston for rehab and got a new job lol
This time I will seek advice from Lenora instead of putting her head photoshopped on to a beer bottle lol
Bright eye counseling brewing Co.
LOL

Quick. Will somebody cue up the Mary Tyler Moore theme please.
La la la la la
la la la la
la la la la la

[chefcraig]

Quick. Will somebody cue up the Mary Tyler Moore theme please.
La la la la la
la la la la
la la la la la


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff1GSlWHl7U

[ZahZoo]

Hmmmm...

Nevermind...

[WARF]

ZahZoo check your PM. I got some good news for your site.

[DONNIEP]

Warf quit drinking? Did they run out of booze up north? :biggrin:

[Nickdfresh]

And I can teach it to you for just four easy payments of $200...

The asshole-colloid-suppositories?

[twonabomber]

Warf quit drinking? Did they run out of booze up north? :biggrin:

No, suddenly the warehouses are overstocked!

[DONNIEP]

No, suddenly the warehouses are overstocked!

Well thank God for that. I nearly went broke paying his vodka and hooker bills...

[WARF]

My hooker bills are even more expensive now without booze!!!!

[Von Halen]

Here's my take...



...Nick does have a strong resemblance to that Mad magazine dude!

[Nickdfresh]

Here's my take...



...Nick does have a strong resemblance to that Mad magazine dude!

Actually I look more like the Cracked guy...

[hambon4lif]

This is, unquestionably, the biggest crock of fucking shit I've ever read in my life!

Your only regret is that you now realize what a unwise piss-poor decision you made. 50/50 hindsight nonsense bullshit....

You're not sorry for anything you've done, or to anyone you've started shit with.

Go fuck yourself!

[ZahZoo]

Very eloquent assessment!!!

[ZahZoo]

Actually I look more like the Cracked guy...

I always pictured you looking like one of those creepy spy -vs- spy guys...

[PETE'S BROTHER]

I always pictured you looking like one of those creepy spy -vs- spy guys...

elvis is the black one...

[hambon4lif]

Very eloquent assessment!!!Thanks, Gramps!

However, truth be told, you're a piece of shit too!:thumb:

[PETE'S BROTHER]

:019:

[ZahZoo]

Thanks, Gramps!

However, truth be told, you're a piece of shit too!:thumb:

Thanks!!

Good to see you around and kickin too, Jackass!! :)

[WARF's Vagina]

This is, unquestionably, the biggest crock of fucking shit I've ever read in my life!

Your only regret is that you now realize what a unwise piss-poor decision you made. 50/50 hindsight nonsense bullshit....

You're not sorry for anything you've done, or to anyone you've started shit with.

Go fuck yourself!

Excellent post. Well said and true. WARF is an asshole.

[ZahZoo]

WARF is an asshole.

That was hardly new news 10 years ago... when he was at the peak of his gamesmanship!!

Some of you are really slow about picking up on the obvious!! Talk about being born yesterday... I'd expect next week you geniuses will wake up to the grand revelation that Von & Sesh are a couple of daft cunts™!!

Try and keep up... losers. These Pop celebrities you're going on about are way past their prime and coasting into retirement. :bigwink:

[hambon4lif]

Some of you are really slow about picking up on the obvious!! Talk about being born yesterday... Oh, everyone's up to speed, and on more than just the obvious.

He has chosen alcoholism as an excuse for his asinine behavior. That's really no surprise. Man-babies have been using that tired excuse since the invention of alcohol.
Also, if one were to comb through this sites history, they'd find 3 or 4 threads that start eerily similar to this one.
He's not sorry to anyone he's attacked, he's only sorry that he lost the war he waged on this place. If he wants to apologize to anyone, he'd be better off saying sorry to the dumbass bobble-head motherfuckers that followed him and encouraged his ignorance.....

.....which brings this to you.

I find it hilarious that you completely gloss over your role in the whole debacle.
You were the one instigating the shit by acting like a facetious cunt. You not only encouraged the nonsense, but you also kept pouring gasoline on the fire and allowing it to reach new lows.
You were the one PMing folks in a desperate attempt to recruit people here to that flaming pile of cyber-dogshit you call a site. (btw, how are things going over there anyhow?)

You wanna know the real kicker of all of it is? You have quite a few years on the rest of the gang here.
One would think that someone born during the Adams administration would have a bit more on the ball....a bit more wisdom.
The general assumption is that age and wisdom walk hand-in-hand. You've proven to be the exception to the rule......so congratulations! At least you've got that going for ya'!:first:

I don't think people are, as you say, "slow to pick up on the obvious", otherwise you would walk away unscathed, and you're not going to.

Have a nice fucking day, jackass.
Watch out for the ol' Karma Express!!

[TFM_Dale]

Oh, everyone's up to speed, and on more than just the obvious.

He has chosen alcoholism as an excuse for his asinine behavior. That's really no surprise. Man-babies have been using that tired excuse since the invention of alcohol.
Also, if one were to comb through this sites history, they'd find 3 or 4 threads that start eerily similar to this one.
He's not sorry to anyone he's attacked, he's only sorry that he lost the war he waged on this place. If he wants to apologize to anyone, he'd be better off saying sorry to the dumbass bobble-head motherfuckers that followed him and encouraged his ignorance.....

.....which brings this to you.

I find it hilarious that you completely gloss over your role in the whole debacle.
You were the one instigating the shit by acting like a facetious cunt. You not only encouraged the nonsense, but you also kept pouring gasoline on the fire and allowing it to reach new lows.
You were the one PMing folks in a desperate attempt to recruit people here to that flaming pile of cyber-dogshit you call a site. (btw, how are things going over there anyhow?)

You wanna know the real kicker of all of it is? You have quite a few years on the rest of the gang here.
One would think that someone born during the Adams administration would have a bit more on the ball....a bit more wisdom.
The general assumption is that age and wisdom walk hand-in-hand. You've proven to be the exception to the rule......so congratulations! At least you've got that going for ya'!:first:

I don't think people are, as you say, "slow to pick up on the obvious", otherwise you would walk away unscathed, and you're not going to.

Have a nice fucking day, jackass.
Watch out for the ol' Karma Express!!

Hambon my friend, you sure do have a way with words :beers:

[hambon4lif]

Hambon my friend, you sure do have a way with words :beers:Thanks Dale! I knew that all those years working at Hallmark would somehow pay off.:thumb:

[ZahZoo]

.....which brings this to you.

I find it hilarious that you completely gloss over your role in the whole debacle.
You were the one instigating the shit by acting like a facetious cunt. You not only encouraged the nonsense, but you also kept pouring gasoline on the fire and allowing it to reach new lows.
You were the one PMing folks in a desperate attempt to recruit people here to that flaming pile of cyber-dogshit you call a site. (btw, how are things going over there anyhow?)

You wanna know the real kicker of all of it is? You have quite a few years on the rest of the gang here.
One would think that someone born during the Adams administration would have a bit more on the ball....a bit more wisdom.
The general assumption is that age and wisdom walk hand-in-hand. You've proven to be the exception to the rule......so congratulations! At least you've got that going for ya'!:first:

I don't think people are, as you say, "slow to pick up on the obvious", otherwise you would walk away unscathed, and you're not going to.

Have a nice fucking day, jackass.
Watch out for the ol' Karma Express!!

Wow that's a lot of angst and spewage... even for you hambon. You honestly give a shit?

I assumed you were well aware of my general character after we modded and raised hell together for a few years at DDLR.com. My asking you to check out the former Fans site because I considered you a friend and colleague is now a crime or worse an act of desperation? Really?

Exactly what role must I atone for and be "scathed" for here?

[WARF's Vagina]

That was hardly new news 10 years ago... when he was at the peak of his gamesmanship!!

Some of you are really slow about picking up on the obvious!! Talk about being born yesterday... I'd expect next week you geniuses will wake up to the grand revelation that Von & Sesh are a couple of daft cunts™!!

Try and keep up... losers. These Pop celebrities you're going on about are way past their prime and coasting into retirement. :bigwink:

Fuck off Grandpa! :gulp: you're an instigating piece of shit.

How's the websites doing?

[WARF's Vagina]

Oh, everyone's up to speed, and on more than just the obvious.

He has chosen alcoholism as an excuse for his asinine behavior. That's really no surprise. Man-babies have been using that tired excuse since the invention of alcohol.
Also, if one were to comb through this sites history, they'd find 3 or 4 threads that start eerily similar to this one.
He's not sorry to anyone he's attacked, he's only sorry that he lost the war he waged on this place. If he wants to apologize to anyone, he'd be better off saying sorry to the dumbass bobble-head motherfuckers that followed him and encouraged his ignorance.....

.....which brings this to you.

I find it hilarious that you completely gloss over your role in the whole debacle.
You were the one instigating the shit by acting like a facetious cunt. You not only encouraged the nonsense, but you also kept pouring gasoline on the fire and allowing it to reach new lows.
You were the one PMing folks in a desperate attempt to recruit people here to that flaming pile of cyber-dogshit you call a site. (btw, how are things going over there anyhow?)

You wanna know the real kicker of all of it is? You have quite a few years on the rest of the gang here.
One would think that someone born during the Adams administration would have a bit more on the ball....a bit more wisdom.
The general assumption is that age and wisdom walk hand-in-hand. You've proven to be the exception to the rule......so congratulations! At least you've got that going for ya'!:first:

I don't think people are, as you say, "slow to pick up on the obvious", otherwise you would walk away unscathed, and you're not going to.

Have a nice fucking day, jackass.
Watch out for the ol' Karma Express!!

Excellent post. Anyone that believe WARF(ag)'s bullshit post is an idiot. He's a born loser. Fuck him.

Using alcholism as an excuse is lame. If he was really an alcholic he wouldn't have apologized on a message board.

Hope he kills himself.

[chefcraig]

One would think that someone born during the Adams administration would have a bit more on the ball...

I refuse to take a side in all of this baloney, but I have to say, that line is funny as all hell. :lol::appl:

[Seshmeister]

Sarge was asking me the other day why that other site failed, I wasn't really sure what to say, I didn't follow it too closely.

After all the insane amount of work building this place a polite way translation would be I think he feels a bit let down by some of you.

[TFM_Dale]

Alot of us still feel letdown by what was allowed here. People are making an effort though, takes time.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Sarge was asking me the other day why that other site failed, I wasn't really sure what to say, I didn't follow it too closely.

After all the insane amount of work building this place a polite way translation would be I think he feels a bit let down by some of you.

is he over it yet? :bigwink:

[ZahZoo]

I refuse to take a side in all of this baloney, but I have to say, that line is funny as all hell. :lol::appl:

It was the one redeeming comment with an ounce of worthy humor, but as usual, for the idiot author it missed the mark...

I was born during the Eisenhower Administration... a product of people not afraid to take on a worthy fight and drop fucking nuclear bombs on assholes who deserved a good and proper ass whoopin... My generation ends things with an exclamation point that makes people stand up and take notice... for a fucking glow in the dark eternity.

I'm not some pussy by-product of a bunch of lazy, fucked up hippies ass fucking in the mud with flowers in their hair... like most of you pathetic lemmings.

[FORD]

It was the one redeeming comment with an ounce of worthy humor, but as usual, for the idiot author it missed the mark...

I was born during the Eisenhower Administration... a product of people not afraid to take on a worthy fight and drop fucking nuclear bombs on assholes who deserved a good and proper ass whoopin... My generation ends things with an exclamation point that makes people stand up and take notice... for a fucking glow in the dark eternity.

I'm not some pussy by-product of a bunch of lazy, fucked up hippies ass fucking in the mud with flowers in their hair... like most of you pathetic lemmings.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFIPjjlGJmM

[PETE'S BROTHER]

mmmmm, lemmings

[vandeleur]

Why thank you double z :D

[ZahZoo]

Fuck off Grandpa! :gulp: you're an instigating piece of shit.

How's the websites doing?

LMAO... funny coming from an ID and persona who's whole existence was born and operates solely for instigation of the most vile of shit...

Actually the websites I own are doing quite well... 2 out of 3 in production are generating profitable income monthly above hosting and licensing costs via Pay-per-Click and Affiliate programs. I have a 4th one in development and beta testing that I'll probably launch in a few weeks...

Even my little chat board http://www.myretrolounge.com while having just a handful of members and 1900+ posts is doing quite well. While not generating any income, I've been successful in configuring it using effective SEO (Search Engine Optimization) methodologies and have it positioned within the top 3 search engines on a simple key word search of "retro lounge" as follows:

Google - page 5 out of 13.5 million hits
Bing - Page 1 out of 9.6 million hits
Yahoo - Page 1 out of 7.4 million hits

It's my first venture into owning a bulletin/chat board which has allowed me to further develop my web hosting/programming skills, plus develop methodologies that are benefiting my other web ventures. I'm actively working with Google Analytics to move it up in Google...

I didn't own davidleerothfans.com. I was asked to assist them due to my past experience administering VH/Roth boards which I accepted when this place was completely falling apart internally 16 months ago... I stand by the work I did in that realm.

As far as thatmetalforum.com is concerned... I strongly supported and advocated the decision to transition the site focus from a DLR fan site to a more generic music site format. With this site's continued presence in the VH/DLR realm there was no need for a competing site. The stakeholders as a group decided on the new subject matter and design... there was a donation drive to fund it going forward and warham took over sole ownership of the site, domain, software and all previous content. I had no active role and no involvement at all in the decision to shut down that site. Honestly, I'm still not clear as to why it was taken down after we, as a group, worked to transform it.

For the record for those wondering... that's that.

[Nickdfresh]

It was the one redeeming comment with an ounce of worthy humor, but as usual, for the idiot author it missed the mark...

I was born during the Eisenhower Administration... a product of people not afraid to take on a worthy fight and drop fucking nuclear bombs on assholes who deserved a good and proper ass whoopin... My generation ends things with an exclamation point that makes people stand up and take notice... for a fucking glow in the dark eternity.

I'm not some pussy by-product of a bunch of lazy, fucked up hippies ass fucking in the mud with flowers in their hair... like most of you pathetic lemmings.

You're just mad they never trusted anyone over 30 back then, like you. :)

[Romeo Delight]

Sarge was asking me the other day why that other site failed, I wasn't really sure what to say, I didn't follow it too closely.

After all the insane amount of work building this place a polite way translation would be I think he feels a bit let down by some of you.

I think it's fair to say that irreperable damage was done to the site.

IMO the personal info posted and vile references to late kin turned many away from the site, myself included.

I too wonder about the likes of Zahzoo who could have lent some valuable guidance to the worst offenders. We are all our own keepers, but I recall all too many posts where the vile actions were positioned more of a quid pro quo. Really unfortunate

[hambon4lif]

I too wonder about the likes of Zahzoo The word "shifty" immediately comes to mind.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

The word "shifty" immediately comes to mind.

:biggrin:

[Seshmeister]

I think it's fair to say that irreperable damage was done to the site.

IMO the personal info posted and vile references to late kin turned many away from the site, myself included.


I totally get that but it's worth pointing out that the site rules and policies didn't change at any point, when I took over I made the 'rules' stricter than they ever were back in the day.

I think that people were turned away from posting at an uncensored site because of other social media like Facebook making anonymity more difficult combined with everyone getting a bit older. It's a bad mix. On something like Facebook where people have to account for their posts and can't hide then on the whole people are much much more polite and nicer just like in real life.

I would argue it was quite easy to avoid getting involved in the 'war' that went on here for months and many of our regular posters did just that. The majority of the people that seem to feel most hard done by got involved in arguments with trolls on a site which since it's inception said it wouldn't censor and then got upset when they inevitably got abuse from them.

[Seshmeister]

It's my first venture into owning a bulletin/chat board which has allowed me to further develop my web hosting/programming skills, plus develop methodologies that are benefiting my other web ventures. I'm actively working with Google Analytics to move it up in Google...


Your main methodology like a few of your pals seems to be to whore them on here. :)

[ELVIS]

You should cuntsider yourself lucky to have the traffic...

[LoungeMachine]

Sarge was asking me the other day why that other site failed, I wasn't really sure what to say, I didn't follow it too closely.

After all the insane amount of work building this place a polite way translation would be I think he feels a bit let down by some of you.

Feeling is mutual.

:gulp:

As to the OP of this thread..... ptth. Heard it before. too many times.

[ELVIS]

Sarge was asking me the other day why that other site failed, I wasn't really sure what to say, I didn't follow it too closely.

After all the insane amount of work building this place a polite way translation would be I think he feels a bit let down by some of you.

Shut the fuck up !!

And who gives a shit ??

besides, Sarge fucking bailed...let him feel let down...


:elvis:

[Seshmeister]

You should cuntsider yourself lucky to have the traffic...

Traffic makes no odds to me, I'm not selling anything.

You should cuntsider yourself lucky to have somewhere to post for 15 years without contributing a cent you tightwad. :)

[LoungeMachine]

I don't blame Sarge for "bailing", if you can even call it that after so many years, and with what he's been through IRL....

It was the way VA was treated that irks me.

:gulp:

I pop in here every few weeks, and wonder why anyone even bothers to post here anymore.

But this thread gave me a chuckle. Good reading. :)

[Never was]

WARF hope you have made a positive change in your life and are sincere. Good luck.

I find you hard to believe either positively or negative based on experience. If sincere hope it continues.

[ELVIS]

Traffic makes no odds to me, I'm not selling anything.

That's funny...

You should cuntsider yourself lucky to have somewhere to post for 15 years without contributing a cent you tightwad. :)

First of all, my charm is worth more than you got...

Donations are fine, but It's the freaks like me that keep this place alive and somewhat interesting...



Hmmm...



;)

[ELVIS]

I pop in here every few weeks, and wonder why anyone even bothers to post here anymore.

But this thread gave me a chuckle. Good reading. :)

I'm like that too...

But it's still cool here...

And where else is there to be if Van Halen suddenly come out with another killer record ??


:elvis:

[LoungeMachine]

I'm like that too...

But it's still cool here...

And where else is there to be if Van Halen suddenly come out with another killer record ??


:elvis:

Everyone would flock back here.....

:gulp:

But I aint holding my breath.

Whatever happened to Tony the :sockfucker: ?

[Nitro Express]

WARF. Where are you tending bar these days? I need a drink!

[Nitro Express]

LMAO... funny coming from an ID and persona who's whole existence was born and operates solely for instigation of the most vile of shit...

Actually the websites I own are doing quite well... 2 out of 3 in production are generating profitable income monthly above hosting and licensing costs via Pay-per-Click and Affiliate programs. I have a 4th one in development and beta testing that I'll probably launch in a few weeks...

Even my little chat board http://www.myretrolounge.com while having just a handful of members and 1900+ posts is doing quite well. While not generating any income, I've been successful in configuring it using effective SEO (Search Engine Optimization) methodologies and have it positioned within the top 3 search engines on a simple key word search of "retro lounge" as follows:

Google - page 5 out of 13.5 million hits
Bing - Page 1 out of 9.6 million hits
Yahoo - Page 1 out of 7.4 million hits

It's my first venture into owning a bulletin/chat board which has allowed me to further develop my web hosting/programming skills, plus develop methodologies that are benefiting my other web ventures. I'm actively working with Google Analytics to move it up in Google...

I didn't own davidleerothfans.com. I was asked to assist them due to my past experience administering VH/Roth boards which I accepted when this place was completely falling apart internally 16 months ago... I stand by the work I did in that realm.

As far as thatmetalforum.com is concerned... I strongly supported and advocated the decision to transition the site focus from a DLR fan site to a more generic music site format. With this site's continued presence in the VH/DLR realm there was no need for a competing site. The stakeholders as a group decided on the new subject matter and design... there was a donation drive to fund it going forward and warham took over sole ownership of the site, domain, software and all previous content. I had no active role and no involvement at all in the decision to shut down that site. Honestly, I'm still not clear as to why it was taken down after we, as a group, worked to transform it.

For the record for those wondering... that's that.

Someone threw a party. A bunch of us showed up. We had a good time. ZZ kept us out of jail. Success!

[ELVIS]

I'd say so...

And I give ZZ the utmost credit for trying and applying his talents...

But he does lack in the creative content area...


:elvis:

[TFM_Dale]

I totally get that but it's worth pointing out that the site rules and policies didn't change at any point, when I took over I made the 'rules' stricter than they ever were back in the day.

I think that people were turned away from posting at an uncensored site because of other social media like Facebook making anonymity more difficult combined with everyone getting a bit older. It's a bad mix. On something like Facebook where people have to account for their posts and can't hide then on the whole people are much much more polite and nicer just like in real life.

I would argue it was quite easy to avoid getting involved in the 'war' that went on here for months and many of our regular posters did just that. The majority of the people that seem to feel most hard done by got involved in arguments with trolls on a site which since it's inception said it wouldn't censor and then got upset when they inevitably got abuse from them.

I never know if you are being thick on purpose or if you realy believe this BS. Sarge DID have rules against personal pics, racism, and yes, cock pics. You modified the rules from there.

[Nitro Express]

I'd say so...

And I give ZZ the utmost credit for trying and applying his talents...

But he does lack in the creative content area...


:elvis:

Someone has to be the chaperone. I think Flappo, WARF, and me were a real handful.

[Angel]

Someone has to be the chaperone. I think Flappo, WARF, and me were a real handful.

So...ZZ had his hands full of dicks. No surprise there.

[ZahZoo]

I'd say so...

And I give ZZ the utmost credit for trying and applying his talents...

But he does lack in the creative content area...


:elvis:

Wow that's one of the nicest things anyone has said about me in a while... thanks!

I did at least try to bring some peace into this space... in my own "shifty" way... ;)

[Nitro Express]

So...ZZ had his hands full of dicks. No surprise there.

Naw. I don't think ZZ swings that way.

[ELVIS]

So...ZZ had his hands full of dicks. No surprise there.

Envious ??

[Angel]

Naw. I don't think ZZ swings that way.

Oh right...it was massive circle jerks going on over there...

So called men getting their rocks off being bullies. Bunch of fucking two year olds...

[ELVIS]

That's bullshit...

It was no different than what goes on here...

There's nothing wrong with a little verbal abuse between guys...

It's an understood thing between real men with real friends...

[Angel]

That's bullshit...

It was no different than what goes on here...

There's nothing wrong with a little verbal abuse between guys...

It's an understood thing between real men with real friends...

Keep wearing those blinders...calling WARF and flappo real men is the funniest thing I've heard in years...

[FORD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm2mHrfis-s

[ZahZoo]

Oh right...it was massive circle jerks going on over there...

So called men getting their rocks off being bullies. Bunch of fucking two year olds...

I don't really understand your continued attempts to create the perception that you are just some fun loving, nice person who was wronged by evil bullies... More often than not you came to the site looking for a fight when you weren't getting the desired attention you wanted here.

Plus it didn't end there with you just mixing it up with usual boys in the circle jerk... eventually we decided to ban your ass when it became apparent you were more interested in stalking several females on the site to assert some bizarre "top bitch" dominance you desired. While most of your attacks were centered on a few mindless bimbos Warf invited from his modeling sites... which I admit were not very interesting people. There was no call for your behavior towards them and others who migrated to the site to get away from the crap here.

I opposed your banning, but was out voted and your access was later restored... but let's not go throwing bullying accusations around with blood on your own dirty little hands.

[Bob_R]

I pop in here every few weeks, and wonder why anyone even bothers to post here anymore.

I've wondered that myself as well.

[Never was]

Most already do, but maybe it would be better if folks treated posters as actual people rather than anonymous persona. If you would not do it to friend in life then don't do it, period. I know way late and easily shredded but consider it. I'll pop my happy pills and go back to my simple life - cheers Liam

[PETE'S BROTHER]

:baaa:

[Angel]

I don't really understand your continued attempts to create the perception that you are just some fun loving, nice person who was wronged by evil bullies... More often than not you came to the site looking for a fight when you weren't getting the desired attention you wanted here.

Plus it didn't end there with you just mixing it up with usual boys in the circle jerk... eventually we decided to ban your ass when it became apparent you were more interested in stalking several females on the site to assert some bizarre "top bitch" dominance you desired. While most of your attacks were centered on a few mindless bimbos Warf invited from his modeling sites... which I admit were not very interesting people. There was no call for your behavior towards them and others who migrated to the site to get away from the crap here.

I opposed your banning, but was out voted and your access was later restored... but let's not go throwing bullying accusations around with blood on your own dirty little hands.

I'm not talking about bullying done to me...idiot.

[Seshmeister]

I never know if you are being thick on purpose or if you realy believe this BS. Sarge DID have rules against personal pics, racism, and yes, cock pics. You modified the rules from there.

Bizarre that you are the expert when I don't think you were ever here when Sarge was.

There was no personal pic ban rule, there was one against posting personal information.

The great thing about a forum is that it's all there for you to cite in black and white. Link to some examples.

My memory is that a few times a day you would call Flappo a cunt, he would repost a picture of you which you had put on the internet with your face blacked out and call you a fat cunt and then I would get PMs from you asking what I was going to do about it.

When I said I wasn't hugely interested in spending my life as playing the referee in this childish shit 24/7 you took even more offence.

Seriously I still don't give a fuck. If you think for a second that Sarge would have held your hand every time the bad man on the internet insulted you back then you are truly fucking deluded.

[VetteLS5]

Feeling is mutual.

Boo-fucking-hoo

[Seshmeister]

I don't really understand your continued attempts to create the perception that you are just some fun loving, nice person who was wronged by evil bullies... More often than not you came to the site looking for a fight when you weren't getting the desired attention you wanted here.


She probably got more shit from your pals than anyone else here but didn't feel she had to run away blubbing.

[Seshmeister]

Feeling is mutual.



Actually no, he didn't know who you were.

[TFM_Dale]

Bizarre that you are the expert when I don't think you were ever here when Sarge was.

There was no personal pic ban rule, there was one against posting personal information.

The great thing about a forum is that it's all there for you to cite in black and white. Link to some examples.

My memory is that a few times a day you would call Flappo a cunt, he would repost a picture of you which you had put on the internet with your face blacked out and call you a fat cunt and then I would get PMs from you asking what I was going to do about it.

When I said I wasn't hugely interested in spending my life as playing the referee in this childish shit 24/7 you took even more offence.

Seriously I still don't give a fuck. If you think for a second that Sarge would have held your hand every time the bad man on the internet insulted you back then you are truly fucking deluded.

Let me refresh that memory for you. You asked me to contact you when personal info was posted, before that time I never bothered sending you a single PM.

Personal pics ARE personal info. The fact you still don't get this is why this site is damn near dead. You boast about funding the site and I know for a fact this fucker pays for itself, at least it did before you fucked it up.

You are actually right about one thing, I don't know Sarge that well but I still understood the rules that were put in place. You are damn right I called flappo a cunt, before personal pics were posted we were all calling names. If that makes posting personal info ok in your book then you are just as bad as they are. They couldn't fight a battle of wits so they used personal info, racism, and mocking dead relatives, if that doesn't make somebody a cunt I don't know what does.

Say what you will sesh, you killed this place, nobody else.

[LoungeMachine]

Actually no, he didn't know who you were.

We're friends on FB, and via email.

The fact he doesn't know who "LM" is understandable.

But the fact remains, the feeling is mutual, regardless of what you think.

Congrats, you now run one of the most obsolete sites on the internets :)

:gulp:

Your hypocritical 20/20 hindsight is also understandable.

Maybe you can regale us all about your nights spent in pubs not caring......

[LoungeMachine]

Say what you will sesh, you killed this place, nobody else.

And DDLR as I recall.....

He IS the Sammy Hagar/Gary Cherone of DLR sites...... :lmao:

[LoungeMachine]

She probably got more shit from your pals than anyone else here but didn't feel she had to run away blubbing.

No, she did that here too....

:gulp:

Angel is an equal opportunity blabbing gunt.

[LoungeMachine]

Bizarre that you are the expert when I don't think you were ever here when Sarge was.

.

WTF would that matter?

He couldn't read the history here?

He came here because his brother was a Legacy here, and got SHIT on about his brother's death, and you did nothing about it.

:gulp:

You're no better than Peter Hinton in my book.

[LoungeMachine]

That's bullshit...

It was no different than what goes on here...

There's nothing wrong with a little verbal abuse between guys...

It's an understood thing between real men with real friends...


That's been my point the whole time.....

"Verbal abuse" was fine....hell it was FUN.

But asshole like Warfy/Flappy/Little Texan took it into personal/professional lives and that crosses the line.

I guarantee you, if Seshy's personal life had been invaded like mine, Dale's, Jay's and others here....he would have been the FIRST to stop it.

:gulp:

But since it happened to people he didn't like anyway.....fuck 'em.

That's the epitome of a classless asshole. And Sesh is a classless asshole.

[LoungeMachine]

Boo-fucking-hoo

Why are you crying?

I'm not.

:gulp:

I haven't cared about this dump in months.

But I got a message Brian did another "apology thread" and couldn't wait to read it.

And of course read Seshy's self-serving spin. :)

Sarge knows how I feel about what he did to VA. He doesn't need the drunken scot to explain it.

[LoungeMachine]

I don't really understand your continued attempts to create the perception that you are just some fun loving, nice person who was wronged by evil bullies... More often than not you came to the site looking for a fight when you weren't getting the desired attention you wanted here.

Plus it didn't end there with you just mixing it up with usual boys in the circle jerk... eventually we decided to ban your ass when it became apparent you were more interested in stalking several females on the site to assert some bizarre "top bitch" dominance you desired. While most of your attacks were centered on a few mindless bimbos Warf invited from his modeling sites... which I admit were not very interesting people. There was no call for your behavior towards them and others who migrated to the site to get away from the crap here.

I opposed your banning, but was out voted and your access was later restored... but let's not go throwing bullying accusations around with blood on your own dirty little hands.

This.

:clap::clap::clap:

[Mushroom]

...the whole damn site was decorated in popgears.

What the fuck is popgear? :cussing:

Is this the end of Karaoke? You are good cheap entertainment. Good luck WARF! :1014:

[Angel]

And DDLR as I recall.....

He IS the Sammy Hagar/Gary Cherone of DLR sites...... :lmao:

What a load of bull...

[LoungeMachine]

What a load of bull...

Yes, yes you are.....

:gulp:

your point?

[Angel]

No, she did that here too....

:gulp:

Angel is an equal opportunity blabbing gunt.

Shooting off your mouth again. You have no clue what went on there...and ZZ has an extremely selective memory.

I merely pointed out that Momshell's ladies forum was not the appropriate place for the young brainless ones to post their boob shots....or their anorexic xylophones I should say...

Where's your bum buddy, by the way? Can't be too far behind...

[LoungeMachine]

What the fuck is popgear? :cussing:

:

It is when you use an online editing tool, cut and paste someone's pics onto it, add some cheesy graphics, and then pass it off as your own "creative skills"

All from your sister's basement :lmao:

:gulp:

Hey, joe rogan thinks they're cool, so......

[LoungeMachine]

Shooting off your mouth again. You have no clue what went on there...and ZZ has extremely selective memory.

I merely pointed out that Momshell's la

I don't give a flying fuck what went on "there" you thick gunt.

I'm talking about what went on here.

:gulp:

You're a two-faced attention whore drama queen.......emphasis on the queen.

[LoungeMachine]

I merely pointed out that Momshell's ladies forum was not the appropriate place for the young brainless ones to post their boob shots....or their anorexic xylophones I should say...

.

Who the FUCK cares?????

I never even saw the forum, gunt.

But I'm sure you rubbed many out to it.....

:gulp:

[LoungeMachine]

Where's your bum buddy, by the way? Can't be too far behind...

:lmao:

Homophobic slurs?

:lmao:

What a piece of shit you are...... HIPPOCRITE ;)

[Mushroom]

It is when you use an online editing tool, cut and paste someone's pics onto it, add some cheesy graphics, and then pass it off as your own "creative skills"

All from your sister's basement :lmao:



if they are hanging in my sister's basement, they are not artists, they are johns.

Here's a Guinness for you :gulp:

[Angel]

:lmao:

Homophobic slurs?

:lmao:

What a piece of shit you are...... HIPPOCRITE ;)

Awe...did he find a new lover with a nicer bar?

Yes...I'm such a homophobe. :rolleyes:

Us queers do use that term you know...

[Angel]

I don't give a flying fuck what went on "there" you thick gunt.

I'm talking about what went on here.

:gulp:

You're a two-faced attention whore drama queen.......emphasis on the queen.

Calling me a queen is not an insult...dumbass.

[Seshmeister]

Let me refresh that memory for you. You asked me to contact you when personal info was posted, before that time I never bothered sending you a single PM.

Personal pics ARE personal info. The fact you still don't get this is why this site is damn near dead. You boast about funding the site and I know for a fact this fucker pays for itself, at least it did before you fucked it up.

You are actually right about one thing, I don't know Sarge that well but I still understood the rules that were put in place. You are damn right I called flappo a cunt, before personal pics were posted we were all calling names. If that makes posting personal info ok in your book then you are just as bad as they are. They couldn't fight a battle of wits so they used personal info, racism, and mocking dead relatives, if that doesn't make somebody a cunt I don't know what does.

Say what you will sesh, you killed this place, nobody else.

If I killed this place then how come no one else would take it on by the time I stepped up?

It doesn't pay for itself BTW and never has although it's cheaper than it used to be years ago because hosting fees are much lower.

I did remove any pics where you could tell who it was, you people were annoyed because I didn't ban.

I didn't not like any of you and most of the time was in agreement with you all but I had the choice of running this place the same way it was when it was started or editing and banning people for saying things I found offensive.

I'll give you an example. Your brother and Flappo(and myself) spent over a year arguing online here with a religious zealot middle aged woman and often would post photoshops of her. Literally hundreds of them and I wasn't even a moderator at the time. None of these were ever edited or complained about by staff. Later I was photoshopped for months by Flappo. If you don't like the heat get out of the kitchen, don't stand at the door throwing gas in while complaining to the fireman about it.

I'm sorry that you and LM coming to the site later found it a bit different but all I have done is reset the rudder to what it was because the alternative was micromanaging a bunch of bullshit. The fact that bullshit made for a hundred posts a day and now people miss that is the ironic bit.

Cheers!

[Seshmeister]

:lmao:

Homophobic slurs?

:lmao:

What a piece of shit you are...... HIPPOCRITE ;)

You and jhale really do love the snidey smiley. I must rename it because the one thing it never means is that anyone is laughing... :lmao:

:althoughiampostingidontcarehonest: is a bit long...

[ashstralia]

Oi boys and girls, now that everyone's had their say, can we just draw a line under it and carry on fer fucks sake?

Btw, my favourite smiley = :yo:.

[vandeleur]

I liked the lmao .. I usually save it for pete's bro sarcastic one liners :)

[ashstralia]

I liked the lmao .. I usually save it for pete's bro sarcastic one liners :)

Some say; he thinks sarcasm is a finer, cleverer form of wit.

All we know is, he's called the PB!!

:bigwink:

[vandeleur]

He is one of the better posters once in a while he comes out with a fuckin zinger :)

[Seshmeister]

I'm all for that it's just a couple of posters that use it as some sort of a passive aggressive thing at least twice a post and it gets very tiresome.

[Seshmeister]

Let me refresh that memory for you. You asked me to contact you when personal info was posted, before that time I never bothered sending you a single PM.

Personal pics ARE personal info. The fact you still don't get this is why this site is damn near dead. You boast about funding the site and I know for a fact this fucker pays for itself, at least it did before you fucked it up.

You are actually right about one thing, I don't know Sarge that well but I still understood the rules that were put in place. You are damn right I called flappo a cunt, before personal pics were posted we were all calling names. If that makes posting personal info ok in your book then you are just as bad as they are. They couldn't fight a battle of wits so they used personal info, racism, and mocking dead relatives, if that doesn't make somebody a cunt I don't know what does.

Say what you will sesh, you killed this place, nobody else.

This post irritated me so I'm going to answer it twice.

I went back and looked at the last correspondence we had.

----------------------------------------------------------


Just need to know if posting personal info and pictures is OK now? I know you have told those retards not to yet they are again and if this is allowed now I'm about to smear WARF and his daughter all over the fucking internet. Yes I know that makes me an asshole to but I have had it with these retards.



I was trying to find out if it is a picture of him, he hasn't complained.


Unlike warf and flaps he isn't a cunt. Doesn't make it right.


I've PM'd XXXX about it, no answer so far.


It was pulled from his Facebook account, classic cunt move by the cunt brothers.


XXXX called them out wanting a flame war. He hasn't complained, 2 of us have PM'd him asking if he wants it removed. He hasn't responded.

I don't know what he's doing and we're just here to provide a forum.

For all I know he has pics of Flappo and that's why he doesn't want his own one removed.


So it is OK to smear personal pictures all over the board then, good to know.


----------------------------------------------------------

So not only was I to nanny you all but I had to be friends with you all on Facebook so I could check if pics were real or not?

If someone posts this



http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130506015444/mindjack/images/0/04/Ugly_fat_man_picture-_funfry.jpg

Hey cunt you need to eat less donuts

How am I to know if that is or is not personal info? How do I know whether that is a pic of the guy or not? That's why I made a rule when I took over that people could ask for a pic to be taken down. A rule that never existed when your brother used to post here and among a group of changes which I posted when I first took over in a post that got a huge number of likes including from Lounge and probably you too.

Not only did XXXX not ask for the pic to be removed, 2 of us even got in touch with him asking if he wanted us to.

So fuck off.

Next bleat will no doubt be about me posting PM's huh?

Really grow up or move on please because I have a site here to kill.

[twonabomber]

Seeing that pic makes me feel pretty good about myself today! That guy makes me look anorexic!

[vandeleur]

First one to ask if that's sesh gets a thanks off me :D

[binnie]

It's Elvis :D

[Angel]

First one to ask if that's sesh gets a thanks off me :D

:lmao:

[Angel]

Seeing that pic makes me feel pretty good about myself today! That guy makes me look anorexic!

I just want to stick a needle in and see if he pops like a balloon! :lmao: ;)

[ZahZoo]

And DDLR as I recall.....

He IS the Sammy Hagar/Gary Cherone of DLR sites...... :lmao:

No, no... that was mostly on Von and to a lesser extent wooda... who made the mistake of modding me. He didn't realize my full potential for being "Shifty" until it was too late and I'd masterminded the dethroning of catfish!! :D

[twonabomber]

It's Elvis :D

Truly channeling his inner Yngwie? :D

[twonabomber]

And DDLR as I recall.....

He IS the Sammy Hagar/Gary Cherone of DLR sites...... :lmao:

Just because GARtard claimed that doesn't mean it was true...

[Von Halen]

Truly channeling his inner Yngwie? :D

Speaking of Yngwie, I saw him on That Metal Show. He completely reaffirmed why I think he sucks.

[Seshmeister]

Just because GARtard claimed that doesn't mean it was true...

Did he?

That was dumb even for GAR.

Which makes Lounge dumberer... :)

[WARF]

nevermind... started a thread...

[ZahZoo]

Yeah this one...

[jhale667]

You and jhale really do love the snidey smiley. I must rename it because the one thing it never means is that anyone is laughing... :lmao:

:althoughiampostingidontcarehonest: is a bit long...




I'm all for that it's just a couple of posters that use it as some sort of a passive aggressive thing at least twice a post and it gets very tiresome.




Let's see... there's a smiley that gives you sads. And somehow it means we're passive aggressive. M'kay.

[Seshmeister]

Yup..

[jhale667]

Oh, FFS too funny... which laugh smiley can we use that won't offend? Is :lol: okay? ;)

[Seshmeister]

If you have an opinion on something just fucking state it.

Say it.

Have the courage to make your point without the rolleyes of having an image of someone lying on the ground beating it with their fist in hysterical laughter when what you actually want to say is 'I'm too good for this'.

[jhale667]

If you have an opinion on something just fucking state it.

Say it.

Have the courage to make your point without the rolleyes of having an image of someone lying on the ground beating it with their fist in hysterical laughter when what you actually want to say is 'I'm too good for this'.


Reading a lot into a smiley aren't we?

[jhale667]

What we really need now is a "Every time you use this :lmao: smiley A KITTEN DIES" meme... someone get on it!

[Seshmeister]

Not at all I'm just about transparency and honesty.

I'm disappointed that Lounge posted I was a classless asshole.

The best response to that IMHO is to ask for him to add me as a friend on Facebook so giving him the keys to my life.

I'm 90% sure you people are the silly ones but sometimes I worry that it's me not communicating properly... :)

[jhale667]

Not at all I'm just about transparency and honesty.

I'm disappointed that Lounge posted I was a classless asshole.

The best response to that IMHO is to ask for him to add me as a friend on Facebook so giving him the keys to my life.

I'm 90% sure you people are the silly ones but sometimes I worry that it's me not communicating properly... :)


Really? Gonna run with that one? It was us? Keep telling yourself that, dude.

[LoungeMachine]

I'm 90% sure you people are the silly ones but sometimes I worry that it's me not communicating properly... :)

Probably a mixture of both.

:gulp:

[Seshmeister]

It's all here.

Link please.

What's your problem, what's your gripe?

[Seshmeister]

Maybe we should take this offline and have a chat?

[Seshmeister]

Probably a mixture of both.

:gulp:

I don't know what more I can do than give you my personal info.

There are 4 people in the history of this site that have that.

You call me classless asshole and I give that to you.

Think about it....

[jhale667]

It's all here.

Link please.

What's your problem, what's your gripe?


Uh, I'm the one that responded to your mention of me in a thread I hadn't posted in... what's yours?

[Seshmeister]

Really?

That's the response?

Whatever...

[jhale667]

Really?

That's the response?

Whatever...




Pretty much...

[Seshmeister]

Ok...

[jhale667]

This thread's been an interesting read, I will say that.

[jhale667]

Ok...

Seriously, how is it I have the issue when I hadn't posted yet?

[LoungeMachine]

I don't know what more I can do than give you my personal info.

There are 4 people in the history of this site that have that.

You call me classless asshole and I give that to you.

Think about it....


I never asked for it, man.

All I ever asked was when others were giving out MINE, that you gave a shit, and you didn't.

To me, that was classless, and being an asshole.

If you care to go back to the mod room when you were modded, I was the biggest supporter of you. I always admired you, I always got along with you, and we never had a glitch.

Some pretty shitty personal info, and racism was allowed under your watch, and frankly you acted like it was all our fault.

If that's your take, then so be it. You've made it clear in public here what you think of me, and now that I no longer hold back and post what I think of you now, you're offended. That's silly.

:gulp:

Now that we're gone, you're left to whine about smilie usage. :lmao:

I'm FB friends with ALOT of posters here, present and past, including Sarge and most of the mods/webbies. NO ONE has ever violated that trust except for the POS that started this thread.

Your posts here always cracked me up. I'm willing to bet your FB posts would also be entertaining as all fuck. seriously.

But I honestly don't trust random FB Friend Requests from people who purposely let others fuck with me, my family, my business, and my employees through this site.

It's really a bummer. Because I bet we'd have had some laughs.

t.

[Seshmeister]

I do wonder sometimes if I should have gone for the super easy path.

[jhale667]

I do wonder sometimes if I should have gone for the super easy path.

Not allowing personal info and racism in the first fucking place?

[Seshmeister]

But I honestly don't trust random FB Friend Requests from people who purposely let others fuck with me, my family, my business, and my employees through this site.


This is where the problem lies IMHO.

I don't in any way accept that I did that.

If I did then I need you to explain how.

I'm honestly shocked at all of this.

[LoungeMachine]

I do wonder sometimes if I should have gone for the super easy path.

PTA Newsletter?

Not sure who ever wanted that......

You may have not been around during the Black Flag mess.....but it was handled in 2 seconds, and was done with, and sent a clear message that there is a line we don't cross....

Not sure why the need for all of the hand-wringing and second guessing. But whatever. In the past now.

:gulp:

But ANYONE who think Warfy is "reformed" now, is even dumbererer than me.

[LoungeMachine]

This is where the problem lies IMHO.

I don't in any way accept that I did that.

If I did then I need you to explain how.

I'm honestly shocked at all of this.

Seriously?

wow

[LoungeMachine]

I'm all for that it's just a couple of posters that use it as some sort of a passive aggressive thing at least twice a post and it gets very tiresome.

a couple?

put 'em on ignore. :lmao:

[Seshmeister]

Not allowing personal info and racism in the first fucking place?

I've never understood the American approach to racism.

I feel deeply uncomfortable about some of the stuff that was posted. I've posted what 20 000 times here and I challenge you to find a racist post I've made.

The rule Sarge had was not no racism it was no use of the word ni**er.

You can't have selective free speech. You have to protect the freedom of people to say offensive things.

That is the true test - protecting the right of people you disagree with.

[Seshmeister]

Seriously?

wow

Yes.

Explain it.

[jhale667]

I'll also go on record saying I wish WARF luck in his recovery, but not buying the rest of the bullshit.

[LoungeMachine]

Yes.

Explain it.

Why?

To what end, exactly?

I could post a link to the thread, but I'd rather not dredge that shit up.

You're never going to think you did anything wrong, and I'm never going to hold you blameless, so what's the point?

I'd rather argue abortion or Elvis' sexual preferences for all the good it would do.

:gulp:

Somehow you've turned this thread into an indictment on your legacy here. Why the fuck you care what WE think now is beyond me.

Both you and Vonnie told everyone at every opportunity how we had it coming. so fuck it.

Here's one thing for sure... you would never have to worry about me having "your keys"

[Seshmeister]

PTA Newsletter?

Not sure who ever wanted that......

You may have not been around during the Black Flag mess.....but it was handled in 2 seconds, and was done with, and sent a clear message that there is a line we don't cross....

Not sure why the need for all of the hand-wringing and second guessing. But whatever. In the past now.

:gulp:

But ANYONE who think Warfy is "reformed" now, is even dumbererer than me.

This wasn't some dodgy weirdo appearing this was a big argument between half a dozen long time posters on both sides.

I didn't take your side which would have been the really really easy option.

I thought about this problem for days and did what I thought was the best option, it kind of worked but not perfectly.

I'm annoyed you have somehow over time projected the whole shitstorm onto me. The good thing is that it's all here on record. What did I do that was inconsistent with the 'rules' I laid out that you approved of and liked?

How did I cause all this terrible personal hardship?

Fuck this scapegoat crap.

[jhale667]

I've never understood the American approach to racism.

I feel deeply uncomfortable about some of the stuff that was posted. I've posted what 20 000 times here and I challenge you to find a racist post I've made.

The rule Sarge had was not no racism it was no use of the word ni**er.

You can't have selective free speech. You have to protect the freedom of people to say offensive things.

That is the true test - protecting the right of people you disagree with.

No one was calling for full censorship. Or calling you a racist. However, SARGE's rule one-rule approach was enough, and worked for years. Not his anymore, we get that. Free speech has consequences though...

No smileys or offense here, but perhaps what you're failing to fully grasp is how it reflects on the site overall. But if that's how you want the place (a place like it or not, dedicated to a jewish rock star) seen, as a haven for the stormfront crowd, have at it. The place has suffered and will suffer for it.

[jhale667]

Why?

To what end, exactly?

I could post a link to the thread, but I'd rather not dredge that shit up.

You're never going to think you did anything wrong, and I'm never going to hold you blameless, so what's the point?

I'd rather argue abortion or Elvis' sexual preferences for all the good it would do.

:gulp:

Somehow you've turned this thread into an indictment on your legacy here. Why the fuck you care what WE think now is beyond me.

Both you and Vonnie told everyone at every opportunity how we had it coming. so fuck it.

Here's one thing for sure... you would never have to worry about me having "your keys"


:appl:

[Seshmeister]

Why?

Somehow you've turned this thread into an indictment on your legacy here. Why the fuck you care what WE think now is beyond me.


No you did that.

So nothing then?

What can I say, I'm disappointed in you.

You call me a dick I ask why and you can't give a reason?

Oh well the joys of the internet...