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Seshmeister
04-26-2014, 06:13 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/24/john-paul-ii-crucifix-kills-man_n_5206712.html?utm_hp_ref=religion

Giant Pope John Paul II Crucifix Collapses And Kills Young Man In Italy

The Huffington Post | by Yasmine Hafiz
Posted: 04/24/2014 1:32 pm EDT Updated: 04/24/2014 1:59 pm EDT

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmAE2NGCMAEbY-I.jpg

A piece of the 30-meter (98-foot) high wooden crucifix fell down during an event near the village of Cevo, in northern Italy, instantly killing the 21-year-old man. The Jesus Christ figure attached to the cross is six meters high and weighs 600 kg, according to AFP.

Witnesses reported that the victim was part of a visiting group of young Catholics, and another person was hospitalized for minor injuries after the cross fell.

The curved crucifix was designed by sculptor Enrico Job in honor of John Paul II's visit to Brescia in northern Italy's Lombardy region in 1998. It was installed in a scenic location near Cevo in 2005. The unusual curve of the crucifix was intended to evoke the scars of WWII, according to AFP.

This isn't the first time that a crucifix has proven deadly. In 2004, a 7 foot tall metal cross crushed a 72-year-old woman to death in the town of Satn'Onofrio, reports the BBC.

Some 800,000 Catholic pilgrims from around the world are expected to journey to Rome in order to celebrate the double canonization of Pope John Paul II and Pope John XXIII.

ELVIS
04-26-2014, 06:26 AM
You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.

ELVIS
04-26-2014, 06:35 AM
I will slay your people in front of your idols. I will lay the dead bodies of the Israelites in front of their idols, and I will scatter your bones around your altars... your idols smashed and ruined, your incense altars broken down, and what you have made wiped out.

Seshmeister
04-26-2014, 06:37 AM
Are you having some sort of a fit? :D

ELVIS
04-26-2014, 06:39 AM
Dear children, keep yourselves from idols.


Amen...


:elvis:

ELVIS
04-26-2014, 06:39 AM
Are you having some sort of a fit? :D

No...

I'm responding to this thread...

Seshmeister
04-26-2014, 06:44 AM
If we are going to get into scripture I've been pissing myself laughing at this all week.


Daniel 5
New International Version (NIV)
The Writing on the Wall

5 King Belshazzar gave a great banquet for a thousand of his nobles and drank wine with them. 2 While Belshazzar was drinking his wine, he gave orders to bring in the gold and silver goblets that Nebuchadnezzar his father[a] had taken from the temple in Jerusalem, so that the king and his nobles, his wives and his concubines might drink from them. 3 So they brought in the gold goblets that had been taken from the temple of God in Jerusalem, and the king and his nobles, his wives and his concubines drank from them. 4 As they drank the wine, they praised the gods of gold and silver, of bronze, iron, wood and stone.

5 Suddenly the fingers of a human hand appeared and wrote on the plaster of the wall, near the lampstand in the royal palace. The king watched the hand as it wrote. 6 His face turned pale and he was so frightened that his legs became weak and his knees were knocking.

7 The king summoned the enchanters, astrologers[b] and diviners. Then he said to these wise men of Babylon, “Whoever reads this writing and tells me what it means will be clothed in purple and have a gold chain placed around his neck, and he will be made the third highest ruler in the kingdom.”

8 Then all the king’s wise men came in, but they could not read the writing or tell the king what it meant. 9 So King Belshazzar became even more terrified and his face grew more pale. His nobles were baffled.

10 The queen,[c] hearing the voices of the king and his nobles, came into the banquet hall. “May the king live forever!” she said. “Don’t be alarmed! Don’t look so pale! 11 There is a man in your kingdom who has the spirit of the holy gods in him. In the time of your father he was found to have insight and intelligence and wisdom like that of the gods. Your father, King Nebuchadnezzar, appointed him chief of the magicians, enchanters, astrologers and diviners. 12 He did this because Daniel, whom the king called Belteshazzar, was found to have a keen mind and knowledge and understanding, and also the ability to interpret dreams, explain riddles and solve difficult problems. Call for Daniel, and he will tell you what the writing means.”

13 So Daniel was brought before the king, and the king said to him, “Are you Daniel, one of the exiles my father the king brought from Judah? 14 I have heard that the spirit of the gods is in you and that you have insight, intelligence and outstanding wisdom. 15 The wise men and enchanters were brought before me to read this writing and tell me what it means, but they could not explain it. 16 Now I have heard that you are able to give interpretations and to solve difficult problems. If you can read this writing and tell me what it means, you will be clothed in purple and have a gold chain placed around your neck, and you will be made the third highest ruler in the kingdom.”

17 Then Daniel answered the king, “You may keep your gifts for yourself and give your rewards to someone else. Nevertheless, I will read the writing for the king and tell him what it means.

18 “Your Majesty, the Most High God gave your father Nebuchadnezzar sovereignty and greatness and glory and splendor. 19 Because of the high position he gave him, all the nations and peoples of every language dreaded and feared him. Those the king wanted to put to death, he put to death; those he wanted to spare, he spared; those he wanted to promote, he promoted; and those he wanted to humble, he humbled. 20 But when his heart became arrogant and hardened with pride, he was deposed from his royal throne and stripped of his glory. 21 He was driven away from people and given the mind of an animal; he lived with the wild donkeys and ate grass like the ox; and his body was drenched with the dew of heaven, until he acknowledged that the Most High God is sovereign over all kingdoms on earth and sets over them anyone he wishes.

22 “But you, Belshazzar, his son,[d] have not humbled yourself, though you knew all this. 23 Instead, you have set yourself up against the Lord of heaven. You had the goblets from his temple brought to you, and you and your nobles, your wives and your concubines drank wine from them. You praised the gods of silver and gold, of bronze, iron, wood and stone, which cannot see or hear or understand. But you did not honor the God who holds in his hand your life and all your ways. 24 Therefore he sent the hand that wrote the inscription.

25 “This is the inscription that was written:

mene, mene, tekel, parsin

26 “Here is what these words mean:

Mene[e]: God has numbered the days of your reign and brought it to an end.
27 Tekel[f]: You have been weighed on the scales and found wanting.
28 Peres[g]: Your kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and Persians.”
29 Then at Belshazzar’s command, Daniel was clothed in purple, a gold chain was placed around his neck, and he was proclaimed the third highest ruler in the kingdom.

30 That very night Belshazzar, king of the Babylonians,[h] was slain, 31 and Darius the Mede took over the kingdom, at the age of sixty-two.[i]



Too fucking funny.

And people say Scientology is far fetched... :D

Seshmeister
04-26-2014, 06:51 AM
No...

I'm responding to this thread...

So you're hypothesizing that your invisible cloud daddy has ignored the 20 000 children that starve each day and all the other terrible wrongs in the world and acted just twice this year.

Once to pick a single idol out of the tens of thousands in the world and use it to squash an Italian and secondly to make sure Matthew McConaughey won an Oscar? :)

ELVIS
04-26-2014, 06:59 AM
I don't see what's funny...

They became arrogant and selfish and started celebrating their worldly stuff made from silver, gold, bronze, wood and stone with huge banquets and lots of wine...

What Daniel interpreted applies to all sinners, believers or not...

ELVIS
04-26-2014, 07:02 AM
So you're hypothesizing that your invisible cloud daddy has ignored the 20 000 children that starve each day and all the other terrible wrongs in the world and acted just twice this year.

That's man's problem...

Maybe you should pray and go feed them if they weigh on your heart so much...

Once to pick a single idol out of the tens of thousands in the world and use it to squash an Italian and secondly to make sure Matthew McConaughey won an Oscar? :)

I never said God killed the man by making the Christ idol fall...

I just saw the symbolism in the whole thing...

Seshmeister
04-26-2014, 07:04 AM
Firstly the lampstand, why is it so crucial to the plot?

Secondly no one can read the text apart from Danny but accept that he isn't bullshitting them? Are they really that gullible?

You get to become 3rd(why 3rd) most powerful man in the kingdom if you can make up something that it says and no one does? Not even astrologers who do that shit for a living? :)

ELVIS
04-26-2014, 07:07 AM
Well, either you believe it or you don't and I believe it...

Read the entire book of Daniel and you will see his level of integrity...

You're taking it out of context...

Daniel was 90 years old, respected, and known for his ability to interpret things of this nature...

ELVIS
04-26-2014, 07:08 AM
Firstly the lampstand, why is it so crucial to the plot?



Because light was necessary to witness the event ??

vandeleur
04-26-2014, 08:20 AM
You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.

I have had the kids to York Minster today .... Lots of them there

ELVIS
04-26-2014, 08:26 AM
They're everywhere...

People are ignorant...

Seshmeister
04-26-2014, 10:20 AM
I have had the kids to York Minster today .... Lots of them there

How weird, I was there exactly a week ago.

Seshmeister
04-26-2014, 10:22 AM
"Ok kids now you have seen the amazing cathedral we are going to visit some ancient taverns like they did in your Lord of the Rings movies..." :)

Seshmeister
04-26-2014, 10:25 AM
Well, either you believe it or you don't and I believe it...



You believe that bit actually happened? It literally happened and it's not just an allegory?

Seshmeister
04-26-2014, 10:28 AM
They're everywhere...

People are ignorant...

If you are going to ignore the central tenet of the religion and not give your wealth to the poor then why worry about some idols?

ELVIS
04-26-2014, 12:45 PM
You believe that bit actually happened? It literally happened and it's not just an allegory?

I believe it...

There's a lot of depth and wisdom there and I'm sure the original translation has even more depth...

It's a teaching story of the Bible, and it's Gospel to me...

ELVIS
04-26-2014, 12:47 PM
Edits suck...

ELVIS
04-26-2014, 12:48 PM
If you are going to ignore the central tenet of the religion and not give your wealth to the poor then why worry about some idols?

That's why I don't give to you...;)

Satan
04-26-2014, 01:10 PM
If a Devil had to guess, I'd say the problem here was not ignoring my Former Employer's rules against idol worship as it was ignoring His law of gravity.

Building a huge JC on a stick is one thing. Making it curved is entirely another. The article doesn't mention what the weather was like in Italy on that day or the days before, but maybe it was really windy, or the ground was all wet and didn't help Curvy Crucifix JC stay in his semi-upright position very well.

ashstralia
04-27-2014, 04:46 AM
Aah, symbolism. Maybe those crazy snake handling morons could use rubber ones.

ELVIS
04-27-2014, 02:36 PM
Handling snakes teaches us how to handle democrats and republicans...

DONNIEP
04-27-2014, 03:40 PM
Idle hands is the Devil's dingaling...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBFeFyXVLbU

ELVIS
04-27-2014, 04:17 PM
That's right...

Nitro Express
04-27-2014, 10:06 PM
Jesus statue gets struck by lightning and burns.

Satan
04-27-2014, 10:32 PM
Here in Hell, we used to call that horrible statue "Field Goal Jesus". http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d025.gif

Nitro Express
04-28-2014, 12:57 AM
It really must be Jesus. His car gets rear ended on the highway and no damage happens to it (A true miracle). You have all these dolts waiting for him to return and he's already here. Jesus is driving a 4x4 around Russia. The Lord has returned!

Satan
04-28-2014, 01:32 AM
If that's JC, I think He's been turning a little too much water into beer :gulp: