More Police Have Now Died From 9/11 Caused Illness Than From 9/11 Itself

[FORD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbyd10VHN_0

[cadaverdog]

I'm guessing it'll be a bit longer before the number of firemen killed from the after effects equal the number killed that day. What are they gonna do when it comes time to take down some of the older skyscrapers like the Empire State Building? That things probably full of all kinds of toxic shit. Asbestos, lead paint and who knows what else. They'd have to evacuate the area for weeks before they could clean all that shit up.

[ELVIS]

It's the WTC towers that were full of asbestos...

[vandeleur]

The amount of people that asbestos has killed in the industrial world is a tragedy in itself .

[Angel]

The amount of people that asbestos has killed in the industrial world is a tragedy in itself .

Blame Canada...we still mine the shit and sell it to 3rd world countries... :(

[vandeleur]

Still , thought it was pretty much banned and most countries don't even bother to mine it these days .

[WACF]

Blame Canada...we still mine the shit and sell it to 3rd world countries... :(

Not %100 sure but I think Quebec stopped a few years ago.

I remember some union material coming through my local attacking the decision..I recall us thinking how do defend keeping them open.

[Nitro Express]

The amount of people that asbestos has killed in the industrial world is a tragedy in itself .

I've worked around asbestos. As long as you use the proper safety equipment you are fine. The problem with asbestos is when it's gets out in the open air. If you contain it then it's not a problem. There still is nothing better to protect things from heat. I kind of view it like lead. There is a use for it. You just have to take the proper precautions.

I was watching a video on making old typewriters. I think it was the Royal company. They had a dude in a spray booth spraying paint with no respiratory equipment. A lot of older workmen lost their hearing because they didn't wear hearing protection. In third world countries you are lucky to have work gloves. I've seen people shovel silica sand with no respirator.

[vandeleur]

I was born next to a ship yard , they used to have snowball fights with it !!!

I think the damage was done for a lot of people before people knew it was dangerous .... Or the people who worked with it knew it was dangerous .

[Nitro Express]

I'm guessing it'll be a bit longer before the number of firemen killed from the after effects equal the number killed that day. What are they gonna do when it comes time to take down some of the older skyscrapers like the Empire State Building? That things probably full of all kinds of toxic shit. Asbestos, lead paint and who knows what else. They'd have to evacuate the area for weeks before they could clean all that shit up.

You can remove the asbestos. I used to work on demolition jobs where we dealt with all sorts of nasty stuff. As long as it is encased in a wall it's fine. The asbestos protects the steel from failure if there is a fire. In fact asbestos is a bit overblown because the mob in New York City got into the asbestos removal business. They started removing asbestos that really didn't need to be taken out. You scare people and they want it out and you make lot's of money.

[Nitro Express]

I was born next to a ship yard , they used to have snowball fights with it !!!

I think the damage was done for a lot of people before people knew it was dangerous .... Or the people who worked with it knew it was dangerous .

Yeah that's not good but I used to run a lead pot inside the house making toy soldiers. It was my dad's and he used it to make soldiers in the 1930's. The good old days when kids toys involved molten lead and pouring it into molds. A lot of guys in car plants got lead poisoning from leading car panels. Around high stress areas like door jams leading still beats using polymer filler. The thing is you don't want to be breathing in lead fumes all day long. Lead solder still holds up better than the new stuff because it's malleable. Industry was forced to stop using it because of safety concerns.

People did stuff like that because they didn't know any better.

[vandeleur]

Yeah we did that , we used have half the kids in the street with their lead armies . Though hot lead and kids probably isn't a great combination.

[Nitro Express]

Yeah we did that , we used have half the kids in the street with their lead armies . Though hot lead and kids probably isn't a great combination.


I did it with my dad at first but I was pouring hot lead on my own when I was eight years old. Nobody would sell that stuff now because of the liability. In the 1930's if you burned yourself with hot lead it wasn't the manufactures fault. You were just a dumb ass.

[cadaverdog]

There's plenty of asbesto around in alot of older buildings. The VA buildings out here have asbesto tiles on the floor in most of them. I laid alot of glue down carpet over asbestos tile there. When you find broken tiles the have a has mat guy come buy and pick up the pieces. Navy ships used the same tiles they have at the VA. Most of the older 12 by 12 tiles have asbestos in them according to my old boss. He's been a flooring contractor for over 50 years so I'll take his word for it.

[vandeleur]

My dad was a plumber it's not what you know it's who lol

[Nitro Express]

There's plenty of asbesto around in alot of older buildings. The VA buildings out here have asbesto tiles on the floor in most of them. I laid alot of glue down carpet over asbestos tile there. When you find broken tiles the have a has mat guy come buy and pick up the pieces. Navy ships used the same tiles they have at the VA. Most of the older 12 by 12 tiles have asbestos in them according to my old boss. He's been a flooring contractor for over 50 years so I'll take his word for it.

That asbestos tile sometimes doesn't want to come up easy either. Like I said, unless it has fibers flying through the air it's best to just leave it alone and cover it up. I think they even made ceiling tile out of asbestos.

[Nitro Express]

My dad was a plumber it's not what you know it's who lol

Yup. That's why we have idiots in charge.

[Nitro Express]

It's the WTC towers that were full of asbestos...

It's the heat treating on the steel beams. Ironically to protect the steel from getting soft from a fire. It's one of those shit happens moments. It could have been way worse. The towers could have tipped over and did a lot more damage. I'm sure in the whole confusion of everything nobody was thinking about asbestos. They probably were worried about more attacks coming in. People were shitting bricks that day.

[cadaverdog]

It's the heat treating on the steel beams. Ironically to protect the steel from getting soft from a fire. It's one of those shit happens moments. It could have been way worse. The towers could have tipped over and did a lot more damage. I'm sure in the whole confusion of everything nobody was thinking about asbestos. They probably were worried about more attacks coming in. People were shitting bricks that day.
If that happens again they'll try a little harder to evacuate the buildings. I'm guessing everytime a plane veers of course or loses communications with the air traffic controllers nowdays they get a military escort untill they're sure they haven't been hijacked. I'm sure they'd sacrifice a plane full of people before they'd let that happen again.

[DLR Bridge]

My dad was a plumber it's not what you know it's who lol

Mine too. Panicked customers would always ask him if their health was in jeopardy with all of the asbestos wrapped around the pipes in their basement. He'd say something like "only if your downstairs smacking it with a tennis racket and inhaling it." :biggrin:

[BITEYOASS]

Blame Canada...we still mine the shit and sell it to 3rd world countries... :(

What's really fucked is that there is a town in Quebec named after that shit. I'm pretty sure Asbestos, QC is not known for its fine dining.

[Nitro Express]

If that happens again they'll try a little harder to evacuate the buildings. I'm guessing everytime a plane veers of course or loses communications with the air traffic controllers nowdays they get a military escort untill they're sure they haven't been hijacked. I'm sure they'd sacrifice a plane full of people before they'd let that happen again.

Our country can't even run a healthcare system or balance a budget. It's a broken government. I have zero faith in it.

[Nitro Express]

Mine too. Panicked customers would always ask him if their health was in jeopardy with all of the asbestos wrapped around the pipes in their basement. He'd say something like "only if your downstairs smacking it with a tennis racket and inhaling it." :biggrin:

LOL! Yeah people act like asbestos is radioactive and will give them radiation poisoning or something. You don't want to snort asbestos and you don't want to snort silica sand. Oh and coal dust. Don't want black lung disease.

[Angel]

Not %100 sure but I think Quebec stopped a few years ago.

I remember some union material coming through my local attacking the decision..I recall us thinking how do defend keeping them open.

Just checked. Closed in 2013.


What's really fucked is that there is a town in Quebec named after that shit. I'm pretty sure Asbestos, QC is not known for its fine dining.

No, it's known for its abestos mines. ;)

[vandeleur]

It's cool naming places for what they are known for ,I live in shitty pubs always raining :D

[Nitro Express]

It's cool naming places for what they are known for ,I live in shitty pubs always raining :D

Well if you are from Newcastle it was probably named because someone built a new castle there. LOL! New in being centuries ago.

[Nitro Express]

Well if you drive into a place called Bad Pussy, Nevada, keep on driving.

[vandeleur]

Well if you are from Newcastle it was probably named because someone built a new castle there. LOL! New in being centuries ago.

Yip :)

The city grew up in the area that was the location of the Roman settlement called Pons Aelius,[6][7] and it owes its name to the castle built in 1080, by Robert (II), Duke of Normandy, "Curthose", William the Conqueror's eldest son.