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ELVIS
06-14-2014, 11:00 AM
Douglas Feith (http://www.infowars.com/destruction-of-iraq-provides-stage-for-bush-neocons/), Bush’s Undersecretary of Defense for Policy who supervised the Pentagon’s Office of Special Plans, has weighed in on Iraq.

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“This is the education of Barack Obama, but it’s coming at a very high cost to the Syrian people to the Iraqi people [and] to the American national interest,” he told Politico. “The president didn’t take seriously the warnings of what would happen if we withdrew and he liked the political benefits of being able to say that we’re completely out.”

In other words, he would enjoy the approval of the American people who historically oppose war, especially after it is discovered the wars in question are predicated on lies. For Feith and his neocon buddies, though, this sort of approval is not only irrelevant. It is counterproductive. Feith’s role at the Pentagon was to invent lies and get an invasion of Iraq rolling.

After it was discovered the Bush neocons had lied us into war and the Office of Special plans was subsequently dismantled, General Tommy Franks, who led the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, dismissed Feith as “the dumbest fucking guy on the planet.”

Dumb guys, or rather unrepentant warmongers, are once again emerging from the shadows. The latest is Max Boot, the Jeane J. Kirkpatrick Senior Fellow in National Security Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations and advocate of “permanent mobilization” (neocon-speak for forever war) against manufactured enemies. Mounting the neocon fount, The Weekly Standard, Boot urges a new influx of man and matériel into the emerging quagmire of neocon making.

“To break this worsening cycle of violence, the Obama administration needs to do something it has never done before — get fully engaged in Iraq from the president on down,” writes Boot who, of course, is not the least bit bothered by the $2 trillion plus of tax payer money squandered in Iraq or the stupendous loss of life.

“It needs to see if Iraq might be willing to accept the return of U.S. military advisers, intelligence personnel, Predators, and Special Operations Forces, along with enhanced military aid, in return for political reforms designed to bring Shiites and Sunnis closer together and thus eliminate ISIS’s base of popular support.

This would, naturally, feed into the other neocon pet project — emboldening and further arming the supposed rebels in Syria who are, in fact, the same guys as those now marching on Baghdad. Boot and the neocons, of course, like to pretend, despite plenty of evidence to the contrary, that U.S. arms and largess is going only to “moderates” when it is in fact dispensed to al-Nusra and other jihadists.

“This would need to be combined with action in Syria to roll back Islamist advances there, meaning principally providing more arms and training to the nonjihadist opposition to Bashar al-Assad,” Boot writes. “This could be coupled with American airstrikes directed not only against Assad’s forces but also those of ISIS and other Islamist organizations such as the Nusra Front.”

For the neocons, creative destruction in the Arab and Muslim Middle East is an ongoing project. The collapse of their failed policy after a decade and the loss of more than a million lives provides a new set of possibilities and an extension of the war on terror, scheduled to last forever.


:elvis:

FORD
06-14-2014, 11:54 AM
It's time to start hanging the treasonous PNAC fucks from light poles. Setting their corpses on fire is probably overkill though.

ELVIS
06-14-2014, 01:15 PM
Especially for a hippie progressive liberal with oversize boots...;)

Seshmeister
06-14-2014, 03:45 PM
The arrogance of these people is incredible.

Anyone with an ounce of shame who was involved in choosing to invade Iraq would shut the fuck up apart from to beg forgiveness.

ELVIS
06-14-2014, 04:43 PM
They don't care...

They have no shame...

FORD
06-14-2014, 04:52 PM
Shame isn't an option. The ultimate goal of the Zionfascists was to establish their wacked out interpretation of "Biblical Israel", literally stretching from the Nile to the Euphrates.

This of course references the borders of the "Promised Land", as God described it to Abraham in the book of Genesis. Of course the Zionfascists always leave out the part where God told Abe he would be the father of MANY nations, and that this land would belong to all of his offspring, and not just Isaac's branch of the tree.

ELVIS
06-14-2014, 04:53 PM
At least you mentioned Zionfascists, if that's a word...

Hell, it is now...:biggrin:

FORD
06-14-2014, 05:08 PM
That's been a word for at least a decade. I made it up when the truth about this whole PNAC fascist doctrine came out, after their "new PERLE Harbor" :(

Seshmeister
06-15-2014, 06:35 PM
Blair on here saying that it's our fault for not invading Syria as well.

Unfuckingbelievable...

FORD
06-15-2014, 10:07 PM
So Blair's still trying to be a Tory, even though his being Tory-lite is what caused the real Tories to get back in power?

Yeah, just like Barry & Hillary, I guess.

Though Hillary actually said last week that her vote on Iraq was WRONG, she hasn't yet said the same thing about her threats to "obilterate" Iran in the 2008 primary.

ELVIS
06-15-2014, 10:58 PM
Who cares what that bitch says...

FORD
06-16-2014, 11:10 PM
Hey, since it's Iraq war flashback week, then maybe it's time to bring back Chimpy's theme song......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1fUaXCmqME

ELVIS
06-17-2014, 11:35 AM
Buh-bye troops...

275 troops to be sent to Iraq...



And If any of them make it home they'll be propagandized as terrorists by the state run media and the government that sent them there...

Nice, eh ??

Yay USA !!


:mad2:

FORD
06-17-2014, 04:40 PM
Dennis J. Kucinich
Huffington Post
Posted: 06/16/2014 11:05 am


As Iraq descends into chaos again, more than a decade after "Mission Accomplished," media commentators and politicians have mostly agreed upon calling the war a "mistake." But the "mistake" rhetoric is the language of denial, not contrition: it minimizes the Iraq War's disastrous consequences, removes blame, and deprives Americans of any chance to learn from our generation's foreign policy disaster. The Iraq War was not a "mistake" -- it resulted from calculated deception. The painful, unvarnished fact is that we were lied to. Now is the time to have the willingness to say that.

In fact, the truth about Iraq was widely available, but it was ignored. There were no WMD. Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11. The war wasn't about liberating the Iraqi people. I said this in Congress in 2002. Millions of people who marched in America in protest of the war knew the truth, but were maligned by members of both parties for opposing the president in a time of war -- and even leveled with the spurious charge of "not supporting the troops."

I've written and spoken widely about this topic, so today I offer two ways we can begin to address our role:

1) President Obama must tell us the truth about Iraq and the false scenario that caused us to go to war.

When Obama took office in 2008, he announced that his administration would not investigate or prosecute the architects of the Iraq War. Essentially, he suspended public debate about the war. That may have felt good in the short term for those who wanted to move on, but when you're talking about a war initiated through lies, bygones can't be bygones.

The unwillingness to confront the truth about the Iraq War has induced a form of amnesia which is hazardous to our nation's health. Willful forgetting doesn't heal, it opens the door to more lying. As today's debate ensues about new potential military "solutions" to stem violence in Iraq, let's remember how and why we intervened in Iraq in 2003.

2) Journalists and media commentators should stop giving inordinate air and print time to people who were either utterly wrong in their support of the war or willful in their calculations to make war.

By and large, our Fourth Estate accepted uncritically the imperative for war described by top administration officials and congressional leaders. The media fanned the flames of war by not giving adequate coverage to the arguments against military intervention.

President Obama didn't start the Iraq War, but he has the opportunity now to tell the truth. That we were wrong to go in. That the cause of war was unjust. That more problems were created by military intervention than solved. That the present violence and chaos in Iraq derives from the decision which took America to war in 2003. More than a decade later, it should not take courage to point out the Iraq war was based on lies.

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ELVIS
06-17-2014, 05:03 PM
Obomba tell the truth ?!??


:biggrin:

FORD
06-19-2014, 11:50 AM
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ELVIS
06-19-2014, 02:09 PM
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FORD
06-19-2014, 02:29 PM
That poster is misleading. Senator Sanders never served in the military.

ELVIS
06-19-2014, 03:23 PM
:biggrin:

FORD
06-19-2014, 09:18 PM
Look for Reagan.... er... Megyn Kelly to be looking for a new job soon.......

Catherine Thompson – June 19, 2014, 7:48 AM EDT
(http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/megyn-kelly-dick-cheney-wrong-iraq)

Fox News host Megyn Kelly confronted former Vice President Dick Cheney on Wednesday night about his own foreign policy track record in Iraq, arguing history proves he "got it wrong."

Cheney had co-authored a blistering Wall Street Journal op-ed with his daughter Liz that blasted President Barack Obama for failing to negotiate an agreement to leave a residual force behind in Iraq and accused him of willfully undermining American leadership abroad.

"Rarely has a U.S. president been so wrong about so much at the expense of so many," they wrote.

"But time and time again, history has proven that you got it wrong as well in Iraq, sir," Kelly said. "You said there was no doubt Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. You said the Iraq insurgency was in the last throes, back in 2005. And you said that after our intervention extremists would have to 'rethink their strategy of jihad.'"

"Now with almost a trillion dollars spent there, with 4,500 American lives lost there, what do you say to those who say you were so wrong about so much at the expense of so many?" she asked.

"No, I just fundamentally disagree, Reagan -- Megyn," Cheney responded. "You've got to go back and look at the track record. We inherited a situation where there was no doubt in anybody's mind about the extent of Saddam's involvement in weapons of mass destruction."

Kelly continued to grill the Cheneys on the withdrawal of troops from Iraq. At one point Liz Cheney said that Kelly's line of questioning demonstrated why she and her father formed a nonprofit organization, the Alliance for a Strong America, to combat Obama administration policies they believe undermine American security.

"There's no surprise, frankly, that there are a lot of people now who would like to say let's blame the Bush-Cheney administration for what happened," she said. "That's a pretty routine thing we hear from this administration."

Watch below:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA-ebuLTlCI

Pay attention to Lizard's reaction. I suspect she's going to invite Kelly on one of those infamous Cheney "hunting trips" soon. :biggrin:

ELVIS
06-20-2014, 02:05 AM
Maybe it's not as FAUX as your disturbed Liberal brain thought...;)

ELVIS
06-20-2014, 02:12 AM
It is funny to hear the asshole "fundamentally disagree" though...

Good for Kelly...

Satan
06-28-2014, 01:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5RnbNzois0

Satan
06-28-2014, 01:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU35P3whIn4