The scandal of fiddled global warming data

[ELVIS]

When future generations try to understand how the world got carried away around the end of the 20th century by the panic over global warming, few things will amaze them more than the part played in stoking up the scare by the fiddling of official temperature data.

Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/10916086/The-scandal-of-fiddled-global-warming-data.html)


http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02865/lean_2865887b.jpg
A scene from 'The Day After Tomorrow': in reality, officially approved scientists fudge the data

There was already much evidence of this seven years ago, when I was writing my history of the scare, The Real Global Warming Disaster. But now another damning example has been uncovered by Steven Goddard’s US blog Real Science, showing how shamelessly manipulated has been one of the world’s most influential climate records, the graph of US surface temperature records published by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

Goddard shows how, in recent years, NOAA’s US Historical Climatology Network (USHCN) has been “adjusting” its record by replacing real temperatures with data “fabricated” by computer models. The effect of this has been to downgrade earlier temperatures and to exaggerate those from recent decades, to give the impression that the Earth has been warming up much more than is justified by the actual data. In several posts headed “Data tampering at USHCN/GISS”, Goddard compares the currently published temperature graphs with those based only on temperatures measured at the time. These show that the US has actually been cooling since the Thirties, the hottest decade on record; whereas the latest graph, nearly half of it based on “fabricated” data, shows it to have been warming at a rate equivalent to more than 3 degrees centigrade per century.

When I first began examining the global-warming scare, I found nothing more puzzling than the way officially approved scientists kept on being shown to have finagled their data, as in that ludicrous “hockey stick” graph, pretending to prove that the world had suddenly become much hotter than at any time in 1,000 years. Any theory needing to rely so consistently on fudging the evidence, I concluded, must be looked on not as science at all, but as simply a rather alarming case study in the aberrations of group psychology.


:elvis:

[Nitro Express]

The Copenhagen summit fell apart because evidence of climate data fudging came out. I mean rating bonds is scientific. Some of the most trusted names in the ratings industry got caught fudging data for the big corporations and banks. Anyone can be bribed and/or threatened. Academics are not immune.

There seems to be a trend of using mass media to convince the masses something is true that really isn't. This trend started when only a few companies now own the mass media. In short. People and institutions we should trust are proving themselves to be untrustworthy. If anything, the western world suffers from chronic corruption right now. Everything seems to be a scam these days. The trust is gone and only a fool blindly trusts anymore.

[ELVIS]

That's why I call Sesh a disinformation minister...

It's almost like he's paid to post the crap he claims to be "proven scientific data."

But I think it's the Vodka and whatever medication he may take...;)

Oh well...

I get a good laugh, but it's sad...

Everything is a lie...

For instance, show me one time where Baruck Obomba tells the truth on any subject...any subject ??

[ELVIS]

No takers, eh ??

[ELVIS]

Gee...

I Seshticle missed this article...:biggrin:

[Seshmeister]

I don't have time we've done this one before and you lost.

[ELVIS]

It's amazing how delusional you are...

I must have been mistaken when I thought you might have some integrity...

[Anonymous]

I don't have time we've done this one before and you lost.

Can you link me to/tell me where it is? I'd like to read that discussion.

I'm always interested in the back & forths of you & Elvis. They're highly entertaining.

Cheers! :beers:

[ELVIS]

No, he wont...

First of all, he's lying...

He hasn't shown proof or debunked anything...

So, his game now is to ignore it and hopefully it drops off of the page...

[Anonymous]

No, he wont...

First of all, he's lying...

He hasn't shown proof or debunked anything...

So, his game now is to ignore it and hopefully it drops off of the page...

Well, that sucks.

I realize that for most people, this is just an "I'm right & you're not" game, just like everything else, really.

Noone really cares about global warming or climate change. They just want the satisfaction of being right.

I hope Sesh is different. I respect the guy's opinion, even if I like to get his goat. Alot.

You know, alot of people who take the "Earth Defender" stance are probably hoping disaster strikes, just so they can rub it in our faces that they were right. They probably have wet dreams of us crawling in front of them to beg their forgiveness.

Well, if the shit hits the fan, I'll just ask "Hey, you guys were the majority. How come you've done nothing to avoid this? Oh, that's right, you were too busy trying to be right on the internet to actually DO something."

Yep, THAT is my wet dream. :yo:

Cheers! :beers:

[Seshmeister]

We had this thread just a few weeks ago, I posted an impartial documentary which explained where and how the climate scientists fucked up back in the 70s/80s leading to climate change denial. It then showed how much more evidence we have now.

ELVIS just ignored it all saying it was made up lies and couldn't or wouldn't engage with any of the points.

It's completely pointless debating with him on this.

Now he starts yet another thread and calls me a liar? Pushing his luck...

[DONNIEP]

We have this thread every single motherfucking day and it is pointless and I will ban the next person who posts anything about global warming!.

There, that's better...

[vandeleur]

:biggrin:

[Seshmeister]

The irony is I don't give much of a shit about the issue anyway, it's boring and I live somewhere that it won't affect hugely.

[ELVIS]

I didn't ignore anything...

It's not pointless...

Make a logical argument...

You just throw out data that's incorrect, say it's not open for debate, and say there's an overwhelming consensus that agree, and therefore it's somehow settled...

Saying that the science of something like the atmosphere, with all of it's variables, is settled, is both unsceintific and arrogant...

It's also dishonest...

Science constantly disproves itself as knowledge increases...

Man doesn't know everything abut the planet and God constantly proves him wrong...

You're following the intellectually dishonest line of bullshit on the subject of Global Warming™...err...Climate Change®... Seshticle...


;)

[vandeleur]

So lizards ,flooding and climate change ,I get it there is a thread here . E is this what icky was getting at ?

[Anonymous]

Is it a very long documentary? I don't care enough to sit through a whole hour or more of these shenanigans.

I'd care, if that'd make a difference, but even recycling is just a business where big corporations pick & choose what's profitable or not.

If someone's got a plan to wipe out the big corpos, I'm listening. Then we can work our way down on major issues. Until then. it's as pointless as trying to tell people about the moon landing hoax. We can talk 'til we're blue in the face, will it really, truly matter? The world won't change a bit.

Other than for entertainment, I don't see why people get so worked up over this stuff. Then again, people get insanely worked up about a football match, so... mass hysteria isn't really a reliable way to attribute importance to stuff.

Cheers! :beers:

[Anonymous]

Science constantly disproves itself as knowledge increases...

This bit is actually very true. And will remain so for a long, long time to come.

Cheers! :beers:

[vandeleur]

I never watched it ,every time I watch something E posts a little girl comes out my tv and tries to kill me :D

[Anonymous]

I never watched it ,every time I watch something E posts a little girl comes out my tv and tries to kill me :D

I think it was Sesh what posted it this time.

Try to keep up, you silly person.

Cheers! :beers:

[vandeleur]

Yo keep up with ya keeping up !!

[vandeleur]

Now laugh at my joke and calm ya tits :D

[Seshmeister]

Is it a very long documentary? I don't care enough to sit through a whole hour or more of these shenanigans.


It's 3 one hour episodes - it's a complicated subject. It's quite easy to watch though.

If you want a condensed version of the kind of thing it goes through start at 20 minutes in on the second episode.

[Anonymous]

If you want a condensed version of the kind of thing it goes through start at 20 minutes in on the second episode.

Alright, I'll give it a whirl tomorrow. Who know, might be interesting. Wouldn't be the first time I got caught up in something I thought I'd have no interest in.

Cheers! :beers:

[ELVIS]

I don't see why people get so worked up over this stuff.
Cheers! :beers:

Because there is an agenda behind it that effects all of us and it has to be stopped...

[ELVIS]

Alright, I'll give it a whirl tomorrow.

Cheers! :beers:

Yeah, pay close attention too...

I watched it...

But if you think Sesh will debate you after you watch the video of his choice, you're incorrect...:biggrin:

[Satan]

Because there is an agenda behind it that effects all of us and it has to be stopped...

And what possible agenda could the Gay Socialist Jewish Space Lizards possibly have in making the fucking planet inhabitable?


Geezus.... do you fucking even look at how stupid this shit is before you post it?

[ELVIS]

No, you just don't understand...

[ELVIS]

CO2 is essential for all life on Earth...

It's the food that nourishes all vegetation...

The Earth has had many periods of high levels of CO2 and many cycles of warming and cooling...

We all should know this...it's a natural part of the life of the planet...

No computer models showing global warming have been accurate...None, look it up...

And there's no clear evidence to blame man on climate change...

Also, the science is geared and funded towards proving a theory, which goes against the true scientific method of trying to disprove a theory...

It all plays on people being ignorant or not paying attention...

Hence Seshticle's prefatory "It's a complicated subject."


:biggrin:

[ELVIS]

And what possible agenda could the Gay Socialist Jewish Space Lizards possibly have in making the fucking planet inhabitable?


They're the bloodline of the ruling class of the world...you tell me...

[Seshmeister]

CO2 is essential for all life on Earth...

It's the food that nourishes all vegetation...



Astonishingly childish almost preschool level argument.

[vandeleur]

Your body needs iron ,wouldn't wanna be shot :)

[vandeleur]

They're the bloodline of the ruling class of the world...you tell me...

:biggrin:

[Satan]

While it is true that plants "breathe" carbon dioxide, it is also true that they need sunlight in order to fuel the photosynthesis process that keeps them alive and trading CO2 for Oxygen. It also doesn't help matters when you mortals are obliterating the really BIG plants i.e. old growth forests, because the fucking dandelions on your front lawn ain't gonna do the job.

You want to know what happens when you get carbon dioxide, but no sunlight? Go to Venus. Hitch a ride with the Gay Socialist Jewish Alien Lizard Demons. You aren't going to see any plants there.

[Seshmeister]

Your body needs iron ,wouldn't wanna be shot :)

It's fucking ludicrous isn't it?

I think the demons argument is more convincing. :biggrin:

[VetteLS5]

Wouldn't be the first time I got caught up in something I thought I'd have no interest in.

Trannies?

[BITEYOASS]

You know what? FUCK THIS SUBJECT! IT'S FOOTY/TITTY TIME! :devildance:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMQLDunHnkU

[ELVIS]

Astonishingly childish almost preschool level argument.

See, that's being smug...

You're a snob like the rest of the Pisseds Morgans of the world...

You don't want to discuss the atmosphere...

Now sit there and admire yourself for how dumb you think I am...

[Satan]

http://woodgatesview.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/koch-openspace.jpg

[Seshmeister]

See, that's being smug...

You're a snob like the rest of the Pisseds Morgans of the world...

You don't want to discuss the atmosphere...

Now sit there and admire yourself for how dumb you think I am...


https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10448775_10152500155946605_5700967178038048171_n.p ng

[ELVIS]

:elvis:

[Seshmeister]

Still the volcano shit?

Ok for the 50th time.

http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=2827#.U6oSupRdWSo


VANCOUVER, Wash. — On average, human activities put out in just three to five days, the equivalent amount of carbon dioxide that volcanoes produce globally each year. This is one of the messages detailed in a new article "Volcanic Versus Anthropogenic Carbon Dioxide" by Terrance Gerlach of the U.S. Geological Survey appearing in this week's issue of Eos, from the American Geophysical Union.

[ELVIS]

What volcano shit ??

[DONNIEP]

S******

[ELVIS]

******

[ELVIS]

That's so stupid...:rolleyes:

[Anonymous]

S****** s****** s******

:yo:

Snickers******

:lol: :doh:

Cheers! :beers:

[Kristy]

The graph of US surface temperature records published by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

Those fucksticks in Boulder can't even get the forecast right on their own state! And I love the way Dumbellvis titles everything. Oh, the rest of the planet is getting hotter but the "US alone" is getting cooler. More Jone$ (Dis)info Whores bullshit believed blindly by a moron who never finished the tenth grade.

[Kristy]

By the way, just LOVE this tune:

[ELVIS]

Breitbart (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/06/23/Global-warming-Fabricated-by-NASA-and-NOAA)

Scientists at two of the world’s leading climate centres - NASA and NOAA - have been caught out manipulating temperature data to overstate the extent of the 20th century "global warming."

http://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/high-low-temps-figure1-2014.png?w=640

The evidence of their tinkering can clearly be seen at Real Science, where blogger Steven Goddard has posted a series of graphs which show "climate change" before and after the adjustments.

http://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/1998changesannotated.gif?w=500&h=355

When the raw data is used, there is little if any evidence of global warming and some evidence of global cooling. However, once the data has been adjusted - ie fabricated by computer models - 20th century 'global warming' suddenly looks much more dramatic.

This is especially noticeable on the US temperature records. Before 2000, it was generally accepted - even by climate activists like NASA's James Hansen - that the hottest decade in the US was the 1930s.

As Hansen himself said in a 1989 report:

In the U.S. there has been little temperature change in the past 50 years, the time of rapidly increasing greenhouse gases — in fact, there was a slight cooling throughout much of the country.

However, Hansen subsequently changed his tune when, sometime after 2000, the temperatures were adjusted to accord with the climate alarmists' fashionable "global warming" narrative. By cooling the record-breaking year of 1934, and promoting 1998 as the hottest year in US history, the scientists who made the adjustments were able suddenly to show 20th century temperatures shooting up - where before they looked either flat or declining.

But as Goddard notes, the Environmental Protection Agency's heatwave record makes a mockery of these adjustments. It quite clearly shows that the US heat waves of the 1930s were of an order of magnitude greater than anything experienced at any other time during the century - far more severe than those in the 1980s or 1990s which were no worse than those in the 1950s.

These adjustments, however, are not limited to the US temperature data sets. Similar fabrications have taken place everywhere from Iceland to Australia.

The fact that supposedly reputable scientists can make these dishonest adjustments and get away with it is, notes long-time sceptic Christopher Booker, one of the more remarkable anomalies of the great climate change scam.

When I first began examining the global-warming scare, I found nothing more puzzling than the way officially approved scientists kept on being shown to have finagled their data, as in that ludicrous “hockey stick” graph, pretending to prove that the world had suddenly become much hotter than at any time in 1,000 years. Any theory needing to rely so consistently on fudging the evidence, I concluded, must be looked on not as science at all, but as simply a rather alarming case study in the aberrations of group psychology.


:elvis:

[ELVIS]

Daily Caller (http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/30/noaa-quietly-reinstates-july-1936-as-the-hottest-month-on-record/)

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, criticized for manipulating temperature records to create a warming trend, has now been caught warming the past and cooling the present.

July 2012 became the hottest month on record in the U.S. during a summer that was declared “too hot to handle” by NASA scientists. That summer more than half the country was experiencing drought and wildfires had scorched more than 1.3 million acres of land, according to NASA.

According to NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center in 2012, the “average temperature for the contiguous U.S. during July was 77.6°F, 3.3°F above the 20th century average, marking the warmest July and all-time warmest month on record for the nation in a period of record that dates back to 1895.”

“The previous warmest July for the nation was July 1936, when the average U.S. temperature was 77.4°F,” NOAA said in 2012.

This statement by NOAA was still available on their website when checked by The Daily Caller News Foundation. But when meteorologist and climate blogger Anthony Watts went to check the NOAA data on Sunday he found that the science agency had quietly reinstated July 1936 as the hottest month on record in the U.S.

“Two years ago during the scorching summer of 2012, July 1936 lost its place on the leaderboard and July 2012 became the hottest month on record in the United States,” Watts wrote. “Now, as if by magic, and according to NOAA’s own data, July 1936 is now the hottest month on record again. The past, present, and future all seems to be ‘adjustable’ in NOAA’s world.”


:elvis:

[FORD]

Right.... because Fucker Carlson is who I always call for scientific knowledge. :rolleyes:

[ELVIS]

That's why I post multiple sources...

[FORD]

Breitfart (how does his company still exist when he's been burning in Hell for years??) and Carlson are not "multiple sources". They are repeating the exact same KKKoch talking points.

[Nitro Express]

The real global warming will occur when Jesus returns.

[Seshmeister]

Right.... because Fucker Carlson is who I always call for scientific knowledge. :rolleyes:

Only when Jenny McCarthy isn't available... :biggrin:

[FORD]

If I'm calling Jenny McCarthy, it ain't for scientific reasons. :erection:

[Seshmeister]

http://i.imgur.com/w2Y6xEl.jpg?1

[Nitro Express]

If I'm calling Jenny McCarthy, it ain't for scientific reasons. :erection:

She is a delicious slut. Age hasn't ruined her either.

[ELVIS]

http://i.imgur.com/w2Y6xEl.jpg?1

Is that more of your "hard data" of a "complicated subject" ??

[Seshmeister]

You've posted a graph from a blog by a guy called Goddard who is apparently an IT professional. He's quoted by the hack journalist and vice versa.

A blog by an IT professional about climate science is less valid as a scientific source than you or I posting fucking anything here.

He makes claims in his headline that he doesn't then substantiate in his article.

I suspect if his graphs from fucking ages ago have any validity then it's because incorrect data from years ago has been fixed for the reasons outlined in the documentary I posted.

[ELVIS]

I don't care...

Post something credible then...

And wipe the drool from your lip...

[ELVIS]

WASHINGTON, June 27, 2014 (http://www.commdiginews.com/environment/hank-paulsons-new-wall-street-push-for-carbon-tax-racket-20403/) — Former Bush Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson wrote in the New York Times on Sunday, seeking to jump start another crusade for the imposition of carbon taxes in America.

http://www.commdiginews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/money-laundering1.jpg

“It’s true that the United States can’t solve this problem alone. But we’re not going to be able to persuade other big carbon polluters to take the urgent action that’s needed if we’re not doing everything we can do to slow our carbon emissions and mitigate our risks.”

He equates CO2 emissions with bubbles – in this case, financial bubbles, like those that led to the 2008 global economic meltdown. The analogy presumes that without the incentive of carbon taxes and government coercion, consumers and producers will not, of their own initiative, take measures to reduce emissions. But the sales pitch Paulson employs has an odd ring to it. He contends that Carbon taxes are consistent with “conservatism.”

“The solution can be a fundamentally conservative one that will empower the marketplace to find the most efficient response. We can do this by putting a price on emissions of carbon dioxide — a carbon tax.”

Empowering the marketplace in any conservative frame of reference would not involve imposing mandates, any more than empowering consumers seeking more affordable healthcare, requires a penalty for not participating in the insurance market. Paulson is not recognized in “conservative” circles other than among globalists and neo-cons. And it follows that he’s partnering on this campaign with such renowned “conservatives” as billionaires Tom Steyer and Michael Bloomberg.

To Paulson, carbon taxes are the new flavor of the month and a lot of people have never heard of them before. George Soros and Al Gore would be surprised at that notion. Soros has funneled money to global warming propaganda mongers and Al Gore has been burning fossil fuel since he left the White House, instilling fear about the imminent threat to the planet. Gore and Soros indulge in extravagant, wasteful lifestyles while they preach to others about relatively modest consumption habits.

Paulson’s message isn’t really intended for American citizens. It’s a call to corporations and financial houses to take another run at Congress to compel them to impose another in a long series of wealth redistribution schemes. Why? Because there’s gold in them hills. The carbon tax has already demonstrated itself elsewhere to be a very lucrative commodities market that yields profits for investors, traders and banks, while picking the pockets of consumers. That is, at least, until the general public got a glimpse into how global warming sausage is made, when, among other events, Climategate erupted.

You may recall that scientists at the Hadley Climatic Research Unit at Britain’s University of East Anglia were caught manipulating data for the creation of the notorious “hockey stick” — a clever illustration of erroneous conclusions about weather patterns late in the previous century.

An earlier iteration of the “hockey stick” of Michael E. Mann, director of the Earth System Science Center at Pennsylvania State University was found to be seriously flawed due to the omission — seemingly deliberate, of a large body of data relating to at least two major climate events, the Little Ice Age and the Medieval Warming Period. These change the whole complexion of Mann and his colleague’s arguments. It’s a glaring omission when you leave out events like the Thames River icing over in the 15th Century and a significant warming trend lasting between AD 950 to 1250, a period in which there were no coal fired power plants or manufacturing.

Then, another flood of emails found CRU scientists and Mann, grousing about the lack of actual climate evidence to support their projections, discussing tactics to manipulate research and plotting to censor and ostracize critics. In 2007, before Climategate, polls indicated 84 percent of Americans believed humans contributed to global warming. Here in 2014, Americans show a burn out factor indicative of their sense that man made warming has been artificially hyped.

A recent NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll revealed only 27 percent of Americans believe addressing global warming is an “absolute priority”, while 41 percent say that stemming rising temperatures “can be delayed until next year.” In this and other polls conducted by Pew Research, a third of the respondents don’t believe any government action is warranted at all.

The cumulative publicity discrediting global warming alarmists, saw carbon credits crater in value. Larry Bell, writing in Forbes, notes that between May 2008 and October of 2009 the Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX) value for one metric ton of carbon plummeted from $7 per metric ton to $0.10 along with the shareholders’ investments. Losers included Ford Motor Company, Amtrak, DuPont, Dow Corning, American Electric Power, International Paper, Waste Management, the states of Illinois and New Mexico, seven cities, and a number of universities.

Now the same players with Paulson leading the charge are gearing up to take another run at what Lord Christopher Monckton calls the “greatest wealth transfer scheme in history, a Robin Hood in reverse.” Paulson, first a champion of Cap-and-trade, now favors carbon taxes.

What can be expected from carbon taxation is illustrated by the experience of Australia, which recently implemented carbon taxation. The Australian reports that the $1,350 average tax on each household for the year to Sept 2013, produced an emissions fall from 543.9 million tons down to 542.1. Not a dramatic return on $7 billion in taxes on consumers.

The question on a lot of minds is what is the difference between “cap and trade” and carbon taxes. A basic illustration of cap and trade, is a power plant or manufacturer in the United States, for example, that has maxed out on its capability to reduce carbon emissions would purchase $8 million worth of carbon credits from a factory in China and the Chinese factory, in theory, would then spend the $8 million in upgrading technology to reduce emissions. That is a global cap and trade system.

By contrast, federal lawmakers and the White House have proposed unilateral domestic cap and trade schemes. The EPA analyzed a cap-and-trade proposal and projected global CO2 concentrations in a baseline. The administrator of the EPA testified on July 7, 2009: “I believe the central parts of the [EPA] chart are that U.S. action alone will not impact world CO2 levels.”

Translate that to mean that as a problem solving tool, the market brokerage of carbon is gesture legislation. It provides the satisfaction of claiming something is being done, but the effects on the alleged problem are negligible. Derrick Morgan, a policy analyst at the Heritage Foundation concludes that:

A carbon tax would (1) do next to nothing to lower global temperature, (2) harm American manufacturing competitiveness, (3) create a new revenue stream based on behavior modification, and (4) harm low-income Americans. Energy supplies can be delivered and new supplies created through the private sector rather than through mandates, regulations, taxes, and subsidies ordered by government.

Heritage, the National Association of Manufacturers and the National Black Chamber of Commerce sponsored studies revealing that the impact on workers in America would be dramatic, costing the loss of hundreds of thousands of jobs. All this before any genuine consensus has been arrived at on the question of whether man made GHG (greenhouse gas) even has a direct correlation to global warming.

In Australia, where carbon taxes were imposed, Graham Lloyd, of The Australian, wrote, “Australia’s peak body of earth scientists has declared itself unable to publish a position statement on climate change due to the deep divisions within its membership on the issue. After more than five years of debate and two false starts, Geological Society of Australia president Laurie Hutton said “a statement on climate change was too difficult to achieve.”

Carbon taxes will make already unaffordable energy even more prohibitive for Americans because presently, most energy is produced by fossil fuels. Taxes inevitably get passed on to consumers.

What about the “revenue neutral” argument that government would offset revenue increases by lowering business taxes? That’s yet another government promise. Remember the others about “if you like your health plan you can keep it”, etc.? When was the last time politicians surrendered revenue once they got their hands on it?

In California, state gas taxes are 54.5 cents, which added to the federal per gallon tax, raises the taxes on each gallon to 70 cents. Local and state governments cannot control spending, so these taxes are siphoned off for purposes other than roads and transportation. But state lawmakers are complaining about budget shortfalls and they want even more. “The states consider themselves, in general, to be horribly besieged budgetarily and aren’t talking about anything to reduce revenue from any source,” observes the Tax Foundation’s William Ahern. Carbon tax will be no different.

In any event, if you are pinning your hopes of management of carbon emissions on Hank Paulson, you might want to reconsider. This is the fellow that sold us on the notion that he had to provide liquidity to the nation’s failing banks via bailouts, so that the credit clog would get broken up. Then he hooked a pipeline up that pumped into Wall Street and little to none to Main Street.

In carbon taxes, we see more government for the rich and by the rich. Can you afford more of that?



:elvis:

[Seshmeister]

I don't care...

Post something credible then...

And wipe the drool from your lip...

It's your dumb thread, you post something credible.

For once.

It's fucking ironic that someone that wants to believe in the evil of big corporations, conspiracies and the global elite is constantly completely owned by them.

Drool indeed...


http://roxanne1000.newsvine.com/_news/2009/04/10/2666630-exxon-funded-deniers-invent-non-existent-experts-to-thwart-action-on-climate-change

[ELVIS]

Who wants to believe in big corporations, besides you ??

[Seshmeister]

You're the company man, the BP apologist.

I hope they are paying you for this crap.

[ELVIS]

Now you're as delusional as Softcock...:rolleyes:

[Seshmeister]

I don't even know who 'Softcock' is meant to be.

A Freudian analyst would have something to say about some of your nickname choices, which are of course nicknames of nicknames... :)

[Seshmeister]

http://pureenergies.com/us/files/2010/10/what_if_solar_was_subsidized_like_fossil_fuels_sm. jpg

This of course does not include the $7000 each you paid for the Iraq war.

[ELVIS]

I don't even know who 'Softcock' is meant to be.

A Freudian analyst would have something to say about some of your nickname choices, which are of course nicknames of nicknames... :)

Who gives a shit ??

I have something to say about Freudian analysts and snobbery...

Maybe you need a new social worker, as Krusty would say...

[Angel]

Fuck, just come live in my world if you want to experience climate change. The predicted precipitation and flooding has become a reality.

Wake up and smell the fucking coffee.

[ELVIS]

The climate has been changing since the beginning of time...

[Satan]

The following message is brought to you by KKKoch Industries Inc........



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaPVpnFtPmc

[Seshmeister]

The climate has been changing since the beginning of time...

http://24.media.tumblr.com/8e765d4c7e8adc7382ed6c943acce5b4/tumblr_mj33tr3lcu1s39jklo1_500.gif

[ELVIS]

If you ever sober up and grow back a few brain cells, you should look back at these pages and reflect upon your ignorance...


:biggrin:

[Angel]

The climate has been changing since the beginning of time...

Not at this pace...

[ELVIS]

Oh bull, says who ??

Rain, floods and landslides are nothing new, and are not cause to sound the climate change alarm...

[Nitro Express]

It's laughable that people actually think giving big corporations and governments more tax money will change the climate. Most western governments can't even run themselves and most big corporations are ran by a colluded group of corporate gangsters. Honestly people. Do you think a bunch of incompetents and criminals are going to make any kind of difference?

All while people are starting to protest their governments in the streets over austerity measures, someone is trying to push the world into war (Eastern Europe, The Middle East, and the relations of China and Japan are all volatile).

The west can't even make a banking system work decent and it's going to save the world? What a joke.

[Nitro Express]

Oh bull, says who ??

Rain, floods and landslides are nothing new, and are not cause to sound the climate change alarm...

Might be someone adding chlorine to the gene pool. You have that ark built yet?

[Angel]

Oh bull, says who ??

Rain, floods and landslides are nothing new, and are not cause to sound the climate change alarm...

Says my fucking eyes. I grew up in mountains and glaciers. Yes, the glaciers were melting even back then, but the amount they receded in the first 1/2 of my life could be recorded in inches. The second 1/2 of my life they are recorded in yards.

And floods in the drought-prone prairies? We just went through the most intense rainfall in Canadian history...

[Nitro Express]

Says my fucking eyes. I grew up in mountains and glaciers. Yes, the glaciers were melting even back then, but the amount they receded in the first 1/2 of my life could be recorded in inches. The second 1/2 of my life they are recorded in yards.

And floods in the drought-prone prairies? We just went through the most intense rainfall in Canadian history...

Got that ark built yet?

[Nitro Express]

http://i.imgur.com/w2Y6xEl.jpg?1

This is what happens when you build your ark not according to the plans of the Lord and then mock God by saying he can't sink it.

[ELVIS]

We just went through the most intense rainfall in Canadian history...

That's bull...

Most intense Canadian Rainfall on record:

Alberta - 213 mm - Eckville South, June 1970

British Columbia - 489 mm - Ucluelet, October 1967

Manitoba - 217 mm - Riding Mountain Park, September 1975

New Brunswick - 179 mm - Alma, April 1962

Newfoundland and Labrador - 173 mm - St. John's, August 1876

Northwest Territories - 91 mm - Ennadai Lake (*now in Nunavut), September 1972

Nova Scotia - 239 mm - Halifax, September 1942

Ontario - 264 mm - Harrow, July 1989

Prince Edward Island - 164 mm - Charlottetown, September 1942

Québec - 172 mm - Barrage des Quinze, August 1932

Saskatchewan - 179 mm - Willmar, July 1984

Yukon Territory - 91 mm - Quiet Lake, July 1972


:elvis:

[Angel]

Got that ark built yet?

No time....and there's an ark already built here just waiting....

[Angel]

That's bull...

Most intense Canadian Rainfall on record:

Alberta - 213 mm - Eckville South, June 1970

British Columbia - 489 mm - Ucluelet, October 1967

Manitoba- 217 mm - Riding Mountain Park, September 1975

New Brunswick - 179 mm - Alma, April 1962

Newfoundland and Labrador- 173 mm - St. John's, August 1876

Northwest Territories - 91 mm - Ennadai Lake (*now in Nunavut), September 1972

Nova Scotia - 239 mm - Halifax, September 1942

Ontario - 264 mm - Harrow, July 1989

Prince Edward Island - 164 mm - Charlottetown, September 1942

Québec - 172 mm - Barrage des Quinze, August 1932

Saskatchewan - 179 mm - Willmar, July 1984

Yukon Territory - 91 mm - Quiet Lake, July 1972


:elvis:

What's your source for this crap? Balgonie SK got 200+ mm this past weekend...and Alberta's most intense rainfall was last year, resulting in massive flooding.

Prior to that, it was Buffalo Gap SK in 1961....

[ELVIS]

I forgot to add those figures are for a 24 hour period...

[ELVIS]

Eric Worrall (http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/07/12/coldest-antarctic-june-ever-recorded/)

Antarctica continues to defy the global warming script, with a report from Meteo France, that June this year was the coldest Antarctic June ever recorded, at the French Antarctic Dumont d’Urville Station.

According to the press release, during June this year, the average temperature was -22.4c (-8.3F), 6.6c (11.9F) lower than normal. This is the coldest June ever recorded at the station, and almost the coldest monthly average ever – only September 1953 was colder, with a recorded average temperature of -23.5c (-10.3F).

June this year also broke the June daily minimum temperature record, with a new record low of -34.9c (-30.8F).

Other unusual features of the June temperature record are an unusual excess of sunlight hours (11.8 hours rather than the normal 7.4 hours), and unusually light wind conditions.

Dumont d’Urville Station has experienced ongoing activity since 1956. According to the Meteo France record, there is no other weather station for 1000km in any direction.


:elvis:

[ELVIS]

BBC (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-28199131)

Climate change is "the biggest crisis our civilisation faces", says former US Vice President Al Gore.

http://modernwealthmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/al-gore-warming.jpg

Mr Gore sat down with the BBC's Jon Donnison in Australia, where his organisation, The Climate Reality Project, was holding training sessions to educate future leaders in the fight against climate change.

Australia's conservative Prime Minister Tony Abbott is viewed by many as a climate change sceptic and once described the science behind human-induced global warming as "absolute crap".

"We're way past time where it's responsible for any national leader to reject the science behind the climate crisis," Mr Gore said.

Eight years after he released the film An Inconvenient Truth, Mr Gore said we have come a long way in awareness of global warming, but there is still much more to be done to find solutions.


:biggrin:

[ELVIS]

LMAO !!

http://michaelscomments.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/al-gore-bill-clinton.jpg


:biggrin:

[ELVIS]

http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz61/BOSMAN-PICS/Misc/al_gore.jpg


:biggrin:

[Satan]

When Earth begins to look like a suburb of Hell, will you still be laughing, Mr. Presley?

[ELVIS]

Stop with the alarmist bullshit already...:rolleyes:

[Satan]

I'm not an alarmist, just a long time observer of Earth, and of your mortal meatbag race. And what is happening up there right now is unprecedented.

You delusional deniers are like the people in Pompeii, who kept right on working, fucking, getting drunk, or whatever it is they normally do while a mountain literally erupted on top of them and buried them.

Difference is, they had little or no warning. You mortals have had years -even decades of warning. But rather than listen to the facts and the science, you choose to listen to the GODDAMNED LIARS, even though you know EXACTLY who is paying them to lie....

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/25/89/28/258928b39543c5c1a920a2aebf8fb02e.jpg

[ELVIS]

Blah blah blah...

You're a joke...

[Satan]

Blah blah blah...

You're a joke...

Speak for yourself. The Devil walks his talk. We no longer use coal-powered fires in Hell. Just natural dragon-flames and locally sourced geothermal energy.

I'm installing some windmills too. Sadly, solar isn't an option down here, or I would be all over that.

You might even say it's........ Green HELL!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdul6zLD0f4

[DONNIEP]

Ugh, The Misfits. I had to listen to that crap every time I skateboarded at this kid's house I knew who had a half pipe. That and Black Flag. And Corrosion of Conformity. Over and over and motherfucking over again.

[Satan]

I'm starting to think you don't like ANY decent bands. Do you even like Van Halen?? http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d025.gif

[DONNIEP]

I'm starting to think you don't like ANY decent bands. Do you even like Van Halen?? http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d025.gif

It's funny you say that because after being assaulted with this stuff day after day I would say "Let's put on some Van Halen" and everybody would give me the stink eye. That is music that's made for 15 and 16 year old skateboarders. Back in 1985 and 1986 those were pretty much the only people buying those tapes and records. I know this song because I've heard it about 37,000 times.

You will be happy to know Fred Durst likes this stuff. I know, he used to say "play it again" over and over...

[Satan]

Skaters on the West Coast actually loved Van Halen. Or at least right up until Eddie started playing synthesizers.

Er.... or so FORD told me.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pFRP5hQVoc

[DONNIEP]

Skaters on the West Coast actually loved Van Halen. Or at least right up until Eddie started playing synthesizers.

Er.... or so FORD told me.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pFRP5hQVoc

You ever watch Future Primitive? There ain't no Van Halen in it.

[ELVIS]

Speak for yourself. The Devil walks his talk.

Exactly...

Bullshit...

[Nitro Express]

Nitro to the rescue! Here you go Don. Molly Hatchet is the cure!

[DONNIEP]

Thank you, Higgins. It's about time we get past that non-conformist bullshit.

[Nitro Express]

Hammer down on the 428 and pass the party likker. We's heading to down to gator country! Elvis should have them cajun vittles ready when we get there.

[DONNIEP]

I'll see your redneckin' and raise you one...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9xMCaGTydQ

[Nitro Express]

:elvis:

[DONNIEP]

What was this thread about? I don't even know. Time for more Redneckin'!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg21Rkew874

[DONNIEP]

Might as well toss this in here...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWNKHi2joJE

[Nitro Express]

:bananna:

[Nitro Express]

:killer:

[DONNIEP]

You gotta have this song in this Redneck Heaven thread...Good ol' Sammy Johns..God rest his soul...he was from right here in God's Country...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imN48YKDHsQ

[Anonymous]

PRAISE THE MOTHERFUCKIN' SOUTH!

Global warming? Shoot that sumbitch right in the ASS!

Fire them bullets up thar to the atmisfear & kill that dang urzone layer d-e-d, ded! Yee-haw, motherfuckers!

Cheers! :beers:

[Anonymous]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaY2l-ZPLGU

Cheers! :beers:

[Nitro Express]

:beers8:

[Anonymous]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkrD91D5-zc

Cheers! :beers:

[Anonymous]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJtBeG9-150


Cheers! :beers:

[Anonymous]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TQugc8_Htg

PRAISE THE SOUTH!

Cheers! :beers:

[DONNIEP]

Good Lord, there's enough Southern Love in this thread that it brings a tear to old Donnie's eye. The next time we go to war, the South is gonna win!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeZFPcoQr0k

[Nitro Express]

:drive:

[Anonymous]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYakrSp9DqM

Cheers! :beers::

[Anonymous]

We don't need some high-falootin' scientifical guys with fancy meth lab coats fillin' our heads with intellectual mumbo jumbo.

We got all the wisdom we need right here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKhScy7E_aI

Cheers! :beers:

[Nitro Express]

:fenderstrat:

[Satan]

Praise the South.......

While you can, because if idiot climate change deniers get their way, it will all be underwater soon.

The irony there, of course, is most climate change deniers live..... guess where? http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d085.gif


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrMQHisqwok

[DONNIEP]

I get all my brain thinkin' from Early. That motherfucker has a stone cold understanding of the whole world. And he knows Jesus. So I got that going for me.

[DONNIEP]

Praise the South.......

While you can, because if idiot climate change deniers get their way, it will all be underwater soon.

The irony there, of course, is most climate change deniers live..... guess where? http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d085.gif


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrMQHisqwok

Those are LIES.

If the ice caps melt, I'll be just fine. As a matter of fact, I'll be looking at the beach from my front porch. Livin' on sponge cake, watchin the sun bake..all those tourists covered in oil.

So melt that shit all day long. I could care less. Now get out of our Redneck thread.

[Anonymous]

Praise the South.......

While you can, because if idiot climate change deniers get their way, it will all be underwater soon.

The irony there, of course, is most climate change deniers live..... guess where? http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d085.gif

Sorry, Satan. I can't hear you OR that hippie song over the sound of Alligator Huntin'!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7GyLr7Cz2g

Cheers! :beers:

[Satan]

Uh, my neck is actually red.

So is the rest of me, for that matter!

[Anonymous]

Praise the South.......

While you can, because if idiot climate change deniers get their way, it will all be underwater soon.

The irony there, of course, is most climate change deniers live..... guess where? http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d085.gif

You know, if climate change bothers you that much, you COULD be doing something about it, instead of preaching to a couple of idiots on an internet message board.

Either put up or shut up, 'coz if I want people assaulting me with hypocritical values & morals, while doing ABSO-fuckin'-LUTELY nothing to help the situation, I'll go to church.

Cheers! :beers:

[DONNIEP]

I could care less about global warming. The summers and winters here are pretty much the same as they've been my whole life. And I know, that's a drop in the bucket compared to an eternal curve of what's gonna happen to this planet...

And guess what? I don't care one way or the other. I fucking love summer time. I LOVE IT. I wish my whole life would be summer time. Hotter than hell with twice the humidity as Vietnam. Bring that shit on and let me put the top down every time until we all go up in motherfucking smoke! It will be a hell of a ride.

Izzy - let's ride this fucker all the way down!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RGQSBGaJS8

[Satan]

Like I told Mr. Presley, I've taken Hell completely off of coal-powered fires, I'm using dragon-flame and locally sourced geothermal energy, and the windmill farms are being built as we speak.

It's going to be warm down here anyway, because it's Hell, for fucks sake!

But I still feel better about it, because that's the kind of Devil I am.

[Anonymous]

I could care less about global warming. The summers and winters here are pretty much the same as they've been my whole life. And I know, that's a drop in the bucket compared to an eternal curve of what's gonna happen to this planet...

And guess what? I don't care one way or the other. I fucking love summer time. I LOVE IT. I wish my whole life would be summer time. Hotter than hell with twice the humidity as Vietnam. Bring that shit on and let me put the top down every time until we all go up in motherfucking smoke! It will be a hell of a ride.

Izzy - let's ride this fucker all the way down!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RGQSBGaJS8

Hey, I moved to the coast - I love the summer. AND I live up on a hill about 2 kilometres from the beaches.

It takes me 5 minutes to get in the car, drive to the beach & park.

With global warming, I'll just walk down the street! Nah, it won't be that much. The only damage will be on the property of those people who can afford houses right down by the beach.

I'm not gonna stop showering to save some rich motherfucker's villa. Fuck that shit!

Cheers! :beers:

[Nitro Express]

I'll believe in global warming the day they are paddling gondolas down the streets of New York City.

[Anonymous]

Like I told Mr. Presley, I've taken Hell completely off of coal-powered fires, I'm using dragon-flame and locally sourced geothermal energy, and the windmill farms are being built as we speak.

It's going to be warm down here anyway, because it's Hell, for fucks sake!

But I still feel better about it, because that's the kind of Devil I am.

Ok, Ford. But in REALITY. It doesn't matter how much you dream about it. I mean what are you actually DOING IN REALITY?

'Coz what you do in fantasy doesn't really count, you know? Yeah, it's shocking. But that's how it works.

Cheers! :beers:

[Anonymous]

I'll believe in global warming the day they are paddling gondolas down the streets of New York City.

They sing "O Sole Mio" in Venezia... they'll sing "It's Now or Never" in New York.

Cheers! :beers:

[DONNIEP]

Like I told Mr. Presley, I've taken Hell completely off of coal-powered fires, I'm using dragon-flame and locally sourced geothermal energy, and the windmill farms are being built as we speak.

It's going to be warm down here anyway, because it's Hell, for fucks sake!

But I still feel better about it, because that's the kind of Devil I am.

Windmills are for fags that want to feel better about themselves.

Now, having said that, I am all for every single alternative energy source. All of them. Any of them. I'll even spend money out of my own pocket to pay for them. But before I do, you had damn well better have an infrastructure built without the Welfare Cock paying for it. Until then, I'll keep on running my cars and my lawn mowers on gas. And I'll wish to hell that we didn't have ONE nuclear power plant polluting this planet with shit that you fags don't want us to shoot into space because you're scared that the shit will pollute our precious atmosphere.

[Nitro Express]

Bring on the tide! Unlike Noah I'm going to surf the bitch!

[Anonymous]

Dammit, don't tell me you got nothing, Ford.

Are you really doing nothing in the real world to stop the climate change you allegedly care so much about? Nothing at all?

Well, I'll be...

Cheers! :beers:

[Nitro Express]

I'm getting tired of rich fucks flying in private jets, who own several homes larger than they need, and drive around in large luxury vehicles telling us wasting energy is destroying the planet. I'm especially tired of presidents who fly on Air Force One and Marine One on our tab that say burning fossil fuels is going to destroy the earth. Ok. Then ground the aircraft and ride in a kevlar protected peddi cab. Have the Secret Service peddle if for you.

[Anonymous]

I'm getting tired of rich fucks flying in private jets, who own several homes larger than they need, and drive around in large luxury vehicles telling us wasting energy is destroying the planet. I'm especially tired of presidents who fly on Air Force One and Marine One on our tab that say burning fossil fuels is going to destroy the earth. Ok. Then ground the aircraft and ride in a kevlar protected peddi cab. Have the Secret Service peddle if for you.

It gets my goat. People claiming how awful I am for not being concerned about this bullshit.

Well, they may be concerned, but they're not doing anything about it either.

So, just being concerned is enough to make you a better person than me? I suppose I can just stab someone, but I'll feel really sorry while I'm doing it. I guess that'll get me off the hook.

Cheers! :beers:

[Nitro Express]

Most people have no idea where their electricity comes from. In fact, power companies buy electricity from various sources. If you turned off the power grid and left it off. It wouldn't take long before people didn't give a fuck about global warming. That's the truth.

[Anonymous]

Most people have no idea where their electricity comes from. In fact, power companies buy electricity from various sources. If you turned off the power grid and left it off. It wouldn't take long before people didn't give a fuck about global warming. That's the truth.

One week with everything turned off. One week of living without fucking up the environment.

Riots in the streets. I'm tired of delusional people. It's ok when you're a teenager, but around 20-25, you should really come to grips with reality.

Cheers! :beers:

[DONNIEP]

Most people have no idea where their electricity comes from. In fact, power companies buy electricity from various sources. If you turned off the power grid and left it off. It wouldn't take long before people didn't give a fuck about global warming. That's the truth.

If everybody wants to save the motherfucking earth right now then I can tell them what they need to do.

Take an ax and go outside and chop your power line in two. Just chop that fucker slap in two. Now, you got no power. You just saved all kinds of planet loving shit right there.

Second - set your cars on fire. Just burn em down. And when the guys from the fire house show up - hold them back. You just saved all kinds of shit that's good for the planet. I know, we're burning all sorts of hydrocarbons that could be recycled and shit but who cares? We're going for maximum impact.

Now - shove your smart phones up your butts. That's right. Just shove em right up your poop chutes. That way none of the harmful chemicals and shit will get into the earth until you D I E. And never, if you can afford a grave liner.

Next, after you get done shoving shit up your butt, eat every single thing in your house. Just eat it all. Kill anybody who tries to stop you. Yes, kill them. It will become very painful and pretty much impossible after like a spoon or two but do your best. We have to save this motherfucking planet so don't give up.

Lastly, if you have no desire or you have sense enough to know that you can't fix the environment all alone, or as part of a collective...TURN OFF YOUR GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKING COMPUTERS!!! You bullshit motherfuckers sit here online every day and try to tell me I'm killing the planet and yet every fucking time I check this place out you are still here telling me that I'm killing the planet?? Jesus H. Christ..

[Nitro Express]

You can just pull the power meter out. They plug in like a giant plug. It's how the fire department cuts power to a home before they go in. No need to electrocute yourself cutting a 240 volt 200 amp feed line.

[DONNIEP]

You can just pull the power meter out. They plug in like a giant plug. It's how the fire department cuts power to a home before they go in. No need to electrocute yourself cutting a 240 volt 200 amp feed line.

Sure, you can do that. But if you happen to electrocute yourself in the process then so much the better. That's one less person who requires food, water, shelter, all those things that destroy this planet. So I say everybody should lube up with Banana Boat suntan oil, lick their fingers, and grab an ax and go nuts! That would solve the problem.

And for God's sake, get offline and quit ruirnin' my life!

[Nitro Express]

No electricity. No grid. The NSA can't spy on you. Even if you want to live in a yurt with no electricity; eventually, you are going to get the urge to fuck someone. Good luck finding a quality lay with no electricity, air conditioning, hot and cold running water and a flushing toilet. Go to a big fancy casino on an indian reservation and go up to one of the cute native american women that work there. Tell them you want to go back to nature and live in a wigwam. Tell them you want a native girl who understands. They will tell you to fuck off. The reservation is finally doing well. They have money and she just bought a new car.

[Nitro Express]

Sure, you can do that. But if you happen to electrocute yourself in the process then so much the better. That's one less person who requires food, water, shelter, all those things that destroy this planet. So I say everybody should lube up with Banana Boat suntan oil, lick their fingers, and grab an ax and go nuts! That would solve the problem.

And for God's sake, get offline and quit ruirnin' my life!

Bingo! The world is overpopulated and that was going to do us in before the uranium mining industry cooked up the global warming fear porn. It's not a human being until it breaths air so lets punch all the pregnant women until they miscarry. Humans are destroying the planet. Hell let's start World War III. With the middle east on edge and Russa and China relations at an all time low it should be easty. But all the weapons, smoke and nuclear fall out is bad for the environment. Oh what to do. I would ask God for help but I don't believe in such things.

[DONNIEP]

Bingo! The world is overpopulated and that was going to do us in before the uranium mining industry cooked up the global warming fear porn. It's not a human being until it breaths air so lets punch all the pregnant women until they miscarry. Humans are destroying the planet. Hell let's start World War III. With the middle east on edge and Russa and China relations at an all time low it should be easty. But all the weapons, smoke and nuclear fall out is bad for the environment. Oh what to do. I would ask God for help but I don't believe in such things.

Sorry, I was listening to one of the best commercials ever....holy hell..

[Nitro Express]

People just want to save something to make themselves feel better about themselves. We live in a guilt riddled society. I say let's save the pussy.

[vandeleur]

Right , right . Hold the fuck up people .

I've spoke to sesh ( that's a complete lie , or as it's known in the army a fact )

He has agreed to the vandy ruling .

1. No posting calling out others who are calling out others .
2. No whining about environmental people twining on , by twining on yourself .
3. Telling everyone you invented the Internet ( that's for warf really )

All the above are only ok if they are :
A. Funny
B. have a picture of a naked lady
C. Have a funny picture of a naked lady .


Back to your desks :)

[ELVIS]

If everybody wants to save the motherfucking earth right now then I can tell them what they need to do.

Jesus H. Christ..

The earth doesn't need to be saved...

It will be around long after we're all gone...

The people need to be saved...

[Nitro Express]

Right , right . Hold the fuck up people .

I've spoke to sesh ( that's a complete lie , or as it's known in the army a fact )

He has agreed to the vandy ruling .

1. No posting calling out others who are calling out others .
2. No whining about environmental people twining on , by twining on yourself .
3. Telling everyone you invented the Internet ( that's for warf really )

All the above are only ok if they are :
A. Funny
B. have a picture of a naked lady
C. Have a funny picture of a naked lady .


Back to your desks :)

I'm starting a "Save The Pussy" fund. Now while I wait for the money to roll in I'm going to have a Newcastle Brown Ale.

[Nitro Express]

The earth doesn't need to be saved...

It will be around long after we're all gone...

The people need to be saved...

Just because we went from the Wright Brothers to having an international space station we think we not only can save the earth but reinvent it and geoengineer it better. The mass majority of the world's population live in poverty and we are always having wars somewhere and we think we can save the planet? That's like saying termites are going to save the house. So no wonder some people are saying we just need to off ourselves to save the planet. Get rid of the humans. Do what's right for the environment and find a tall bridge and jump. Jump before Rick Flair's boat crashes into it. Wooooooooooo!

[Anonymous]

Right , right . Hold the fuck up people .

I've spoke to sesh ( that's a complete lie , or as it's known in the army a fact )

He has agreed to the vandy ruling .

1. No posting calling out others who are calling out others .
2. No whining about environmental people twining on , by twining on yourself .
3. Telling everyone you invented the Internet ( that's for warf really )

All the above are only ok if they are :
A. Funny
B. have a picture of a naked lady
C. Have a funny picture of a naked lady .


Back to your desks :)

I'm sorry Vandy, I truly am. You're right, of course. It's just that it gets old after a while.

Imagine you have a leaky faucet. You can't mend it, so you call your know-it-all neighbour for help. He tells you the faucet is NOT leaking. So, you ask another neighbour for help & he'll agree that the faucet is leaking. The know-it-all will tell the newcomer that the faucet is not leaking, so nothing should be done. Then you call another neighbour, who agrees that the faucet is indeed leaking, but the know-it -all will still claim it's not.

Rinse, repeat.

Pretty soon, you'll have 99 people arguing with the know-it-all. Meanwhile, the faucet is still leaking, the hours drag on, discussion is more heated than ever, you've got charts all over your kitchen, test tubes in the living room, laptops scattered around the house with everybody coming up with undeniable proof that the faucet is leaking, yet not one fucking iota of brain power has been devoted to fixing the fucking problem.

Sure, plumbing is not their speciality, but you can't tell me that among all those brainiacs, none of them can come up with a solution.

It's enough to make you run them all off your property with a shotgun.

Praise the South, goddammit.

Cheers! :beers:

[Nitro Express]

What kind of dumb shit can't tell if a faucet is leaking? It's obvious.

[Nitro Express]

Shampoo rinse and repeat. Fill shower with naked women. Shampoo them. Repeat.

[Nitro Express]

bring family dog into shower. Shampoo dog. Repeat.

[Anonymous]

What kind of dumb shit can't tell if a faucet is leaking? It's obvious.

What kind of retards devote their entire brain power to come up with research that proves that the faucet is leaking instead of doing something about it?

Cheers! :beers:

[Anonymous]

bring family dog into shower. Shampoo dog. Repeat.

Sounds like a party at the Van Halen's.

Cheers! :beers:

[FORD]

The earth doesn't need to be saved...

It will be around long after we're all gone...

The people need to be saved...

Sounds like that piece of fucking shit that Reagan/BCE hired for Secretary of Interior.

Yeah, that tool who said the Beach Boys attracted the "wrong element". The dumbass who described his own staff as "A black, a woman, 2 jews, and a cripple". And his most ridiculous comment was that he didn't care about preserving the environment because "I don't know how many generations we can count on before the Lord returns".

Well that was a generation ago, and the Lord hasn't returned yet. (Other than His posts on this website, of course) So how many more generations should we gamble away the only planet we have, because "Jesus will fix it all when He shows up"??

What if Jesus decides He doesn't want to fix this fucked up planet? Could you blame Him? I'd start over from scratch, like a computer with malware, and you're never really sure your Malware Bytes found everything.

Good old Darik's Boot & Nuke for the planet, completely wipe out everything and start over.

[Anonymous]

"A black, a woman, 2 jews, and a cripple"

Sounds like a grate setup for a joke. Or a damn interesting porno flick!

Cheers! :beers:

[ELVIS]

That's like saying termites are going to save the house.

Nice...

That's a good one...:biggrin:

[ELVIS]

What if Jesus decides He doesn't want to fix this fucked up planet? Could you blame Him? I'd start over from scratch, like a computer with malware, and you're never really sure your Malware Bytes found everything.

Good old Darik's Boot & Nuke for the planet, completely wipe out everything and start over.

You're loopy...

[FORD]

Sounds like a grate setup for a joke. Or a damn interesting porno flick!

Cheers! :beers:

Sadly, nothing that interesting.... just one of many dumb statements from a BCE political appointee....

[ELVIS]

No worse than your dumb statements...:biggrin:

[Nitro Express]

Ok. I tottaly get the christian concept. It's based on the human race being hopelessly fucked which is a true observation. Everyone needs a reason why. They just can't accept "just because". So you have the Adam and Eve story and the earth falls. Adam and Eve's children fuck each other. Cain kills Abel and the big fuck up rolls forth. The flood happened because people got too fucked up. There seems to be a cycle of fuck ups.

Now we are gloriously fucked up and have technology to do more damage than ever. Instead of a flood the earth will be cleansed with fire. Jesus saves the ones who didn't fuck up too much and finally says "You people are too fucked. I'm running things now. Well at least for a thousand years."

[ELVIS]

Something like that...;)

[ELVIS]

Climate Depot (http://www.climatedepot.com/2014/06/29/scientists-and-studies-predict-imminent-global-cooling-ahead-drop-in-global-temps-almost-a-slam-dunk/)

Growing number of scientists are predicting global cooling: Russia’s Pulkovo Observatory: ‘We could be in for a cooling period that lasts 200-250 years’

Danish Solar Scientist Svensmark declares ‘global warming has stopped and a cooling is beginning…enjoy global warming while it lasts’

New paper by Russian solar physicist by Habibullo Abdussamatov predicts another Little Ice Age within the next 30 years

Meteorologist Joe Bastardi on declining global temps: ‘Has the Obama administration, the EPA or anyone that can read a chart actually looked at what global temperatures are now doing?’

Climate Scientist Prof. Anastasios Tsonis at the University of Wisconsin–Milwaukee, Predicts: ‘I would assume something like another 15 years of leveling off or cooling’

Prominent geologist Dr. Don Easterbrook warns ‘global COOLING is almost a slam dunk’ for up to 30 years or more

Australian Astronomical Society warns of global COOLING as Sun’s activity ‘significantly diminishes’


:elvis:

[Seshmeister]

Climate Depot as a source?
How rich corporations manipulate the weak minded...

http://www.exposethebastards.com/who_is_marc_morano


Home → Bad Guys →
Who is Marc Morano?


Marc Morano, the executive director of ClimateDepot.com, is one of climate denial's most prolific media-heads. In 2012, Morano was named the Climate Change Misinformer of the Year by conservative watchdog group Media Matters for America.

ClimateDepot, who's sole purpose is to spread misinformation about climate change, is a project of the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow (CFACT), a conservative think tank which has received funding from ExxonMobil, Chevron, and foundations which challenge climate science.

Morano is considered a central player in orchestrating the Climategate scandal. Weeks before the 2009 United Nations Conference on Climate Change, a hacker stole a large amount of files, including private data and emails, from the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia. The data was then shared with climate skeptics, including Morano. These skeptics went on to cherry-pick information and sound bites from the emails in an effort to indict climate scientists for deliberately manipulating data and misleading the public.

In less than 48 hours, Climategate became the top story in international news. During the scandal, Morano said, "I seriously believe we should kick them [climate scientists] while they're down. They deserve to be publicly flogged." Multiple independent investigations have found no fraudulent activity, and all of the scientists have since been exonerated. Climategate helped seed doubt in public opinion leading up to the biggest climate negotiations in world history.

Prior to running ClimateDepot, Morano served as the communications director for Senator James Inhofe from 2006 to 2009. During his tenure, Morano helped author the infamous report "More Than 700 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims." The report was debunked. Research found the list contained at least 84 signees had taken industry money, 49 retirees, 20 economists, and 70 with no expertise in climate science.

Despite having no credentials in climate science -- Morano holds a B.A. in political science -- he is touted as a climate change expert and makes frequent public appearances on conservative media outlets such as Fox News and the Rush Limbaugh Show. The Heartland Institute lists Morano as an expert, and he frequently speaks at their annual climate change conference.

Over the years, he has filled the airways with extraordinary and unfounded claims. Most recently, Morano said climate change predictions were failing, comparing them to "medieval witchcraft, where we used to blame witches for controlling the weather."

Media Matters has a stellar compendium of his most grievous accusations against climate science.

[Nitro Express]

Paying higher taxes appeases the angry weather gods. Don't want to die early from weather related calamities? Pay the government more!

[Seshmeister]

No pay the oil companies less

[Nitro Express]

Actually we will pay them more. The scarcity will make their product more expensive and we will still need it.

[ELVIS]

Yep...

And they'll make the same or better money from less product...

[Anonymous]

No pay the oil companies less

Short of making a run for it after you fill up, I don't see how you can possibly achieve that.

I suppose you have ideas that can be implemented to assure the possibility of such fancy?

Cheers! :beers:

[ELVIS]

I suppose he doesn't...

[Anonymous]

I suppose he doesn't...

Well, it was worth a shot, anyway.

Cheers! :beers:

[ELVIS]

:biggrin:

[Seshmeister]

Short of making a run for it after you fill up, I don't see how you can possibly achieve that.

I suppose you have ideas that can be implemented to assure the possibility of such fancy?

Cheers! :beers:

That's not what I meant you have to think about it the other way around.

http://priceofoil.org/fossil-fuel-subsidies/

[Nitro Express]

http://rt.com/uk/172868-britain-energy-blackout-gas/

Apparently the alternative energy sources aren't working out too good in the UK. Get ready for massive fracking. It looks like the problem is going to be fixed with burning natural gas.

[ELVIS]

I meant you have to think about it the other way around.



There's a siggy post for someone...:biggrin:

[ELVIS]

It looks like the problem is going to be fixed with burning natural gas.

Not evil gas !?!!

SAY IT AIN'T SO !!!!

[FORD]

Burning of natural gas itself isn't the real problem. The water wasting, toxic polluting, earthquake causing, fracking method of extracting it IS.

[ELVIS]

Maybe if it were true...

[Anonymous]

That's not what I meant you have to think about it the other way around.

http://priceofoil.org/fossil-fuel-subsidies/

Forgive me if I'm reading this wrong, as I am not exactly 100% sober right now, but are you implying that governments should subsidize your fuel?

Well, I'm not sure how it works there, but judging by the way they do it HERE, the one thing you don't want - as usual - is the government interfering.

Because here, the government has its paw on fuels, but rather than subsidize them, it double taxes them.

So, you might want to look for a better, government-free alternative. The only one I can think of is fill up & run. I'm not saying it works, I'm just saying it seems to be the most viable solution.

Cheers! :beers:

[jacksmar]

speaking of water wasting..........

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/05/us/californians-keep-up-with-joneses-water-use.html?_r=1

Californians Keep Up With Joneses’ Water Use

LOS ANGELES — For all the doomsday proclamations about the historic drought that has this state in a chokehold, here is what Californians have done to save water: not much.

In five months since the drought emergency was declared, Californians have cut their water consumption only 5 percent compared with recent years, according to state officials — a far cry from the 20 percent that Gov. Jerry Brown called for in January.

[jacksmar]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2685405/Ive-banned-BBC-Ex-Chancellor-Lord-Lawson-passionate-climate-change-sceptic-accuses-BBC-bosses-silencing-debate-global-warming.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

'I've been banned by the BBC!': Ex-Chancellor Lord Lawson, a passionate climate change sceptic, accuses BBC bosses of silencing debate on global warming


Over the years, both in and out of government, I have frequently been invited to appear on BBC radio’s flagship Today programme, usually to discuss economic issues.

But despite the fact that I had written a thoroughly well-documented book about global warming (An Appeal To Reason), which happily became something of a best-seller, and the following year founded a think-tank, the Global Warming Policy Foundation (which is advised by a number of eminent scientists), I was never invited on Today to discuss any aspect of climate change.

That was until earlier this year, when I was asked on to discuss the recent bad weather, which had caused widespread flooding in parts of England, the extent to which this may have been connected with man-made climate change, and what should be done about it.

My opposite number was the scientist Sir Brian Hoskins. It was an appropriate pairing, since Sir Brian is no remote and unworldly academic: he is chairman of the Grantham Institute for Climate Change, a lavishly-funded alarmist pressure group, and a member of the Government-appointed Climate Change Committee, which exists chiefly to promote the abandonment of fossil fuels (coal, oil and gas) by the UK.

It was a thoroughly civilised discussion, ably refereed by presenter Justin Webb. Following the programme, on February 13, all hell broke loose.

The BBC was overwhelmed by a well-organised deluge of complaints — many of them, inevitably, from those with a commercial interest in renewable energy, as well as from the Green Party — arguing that, since I was not myself a scientist, I should never have been allowed to appear.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

speaking of water wasting..........

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/05/us/californians-keep-up-with-joneses-water-use.html?_r=1

Californians Keep Up With Joneses’ Water Use

LOS ANGELES — For all the doomsday proclamations about the historic drought that has this state in a chokehold, here is what Californians have done to save water: not much.

In five months since the drought emergency was declared, Californians have cut their water consumption only 5 percent compared with recent years, according to state officials — a far cry from the 20 percent that Gov. Jerry Brown called for in January.

i read an article about a municipality in CA that was gonna fine a family for a brown lawn...

[Seshmeister]

What I'm saying is that governments subsidise fuel to fuck at the moment.

They subsidise the fossil fuel industries and in the US in particular where politics is super money driven for each million given in campaign contributions by an Exxon translates into ten times as much back in subsidies for the oil industry. This is an impossible barrier to market entry for new power sources.

Simultaneously as they pay for the politicians they also throw a few million here and there to people to set up 'think tanks' and websites to muddy the waters and confuse the issues.

[Seshmeister]

And that's not even mentioning stuff like a trillion to invade Iraq...

[Seshmeister]

i read an article about a municipality in CA that was gonna fine a family for a brown lawn...

Racists!

[Anonymous]

That opening sentence could become a template!


For all the doomsday proclamations about ________ that has ________ in a chokehold, here is what ________ have done to save ________: not much.

I'll try one:

For all the doomsday proclamations about climate change that has the whole world in a chokehold, here is what the vocal majority have done to save the Earth: not much.

This is fun! Let me try it again.

For all the doomsday proclamations about illegal immigration that has the United States in a chokehold, here is what the average citizen have done to save their homeland: not much.

Ok, one more!

For all the doomsday proclamations about the exhaustion of fossil fuels that has the whole world in a chokehold, here is what the vocal majority have done to save the Earth: not much.

That last one only took ONE replacement!. C'mon, you try it. :lol:

Cheers! :beers:

[Seshmeister]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2685405/Ive-banned-BBC-Ex-Chancellor-Lord-Lawson-passionate-climate-change-sceptic-accuses-BBC-bosses-silencing-debate-global-warming.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

'I've been banned by the BBC!': Ex-Chancellor Lord Lawson, a passionate climate change sceptic, accuses BBC bosses of silencing debate on global warming


Over the years, both in and out of government, I have frequently been invited to appear on BBC radio’s flagship Today programme, usually to discuss economic issues.

But despite the fact that I had written a thoroughly well-documented book about global warming (An Appeal To Reason), which happily became something of a best-seller, and the following year founded a think-tank, the Global Warming Policy Foundation (which is advised by a number of eminent scientists), I was never invited on Today to discuss any aspect of climate change.

That was until earlier this year, when I was asked on to discuss the recent bad weather, which had caused widespread flooding in parts of England, the extent to which this may have been connected with man-made climate change, and what should be done about it.

My opposite number was the scientist Sir Brian Hoskins. It was an appropriate pairing, since Sir Brian is no remote and unworldly academic: he is chairman of the Grantham Institute for Climate Change, a lavishly-funded alarmist pressure group, and a member of the Government-appointed Climate Change Committee, which exists chiefly to promote the abandonment of fossil fuels (coal, oil and gas) by the UK.

It was a thoroughly civilised discussion, ably refereed by presenter Justin Webb. Following the programme, on February 13, all hell broke loose.

The BBC was overwhelmed by a well-organised deluge of complaints — many of them, inevitably, from those with a commercial interest in renewable energy, as well as from the Green Party — arguing that, since I was not myself a scientist, I should never have been allowed to appear.

Lawson was an odious toad faced conservative cunt who fucked up his job on a scale that makes the captain of the Titanic seem like an overachiever. The prick managed to lose 10% of the governments money in a day. That's fucking spectacular even Nitro will back me up. 10s of billions he should have been strung up on a meat hook.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Wednesday

Its like Cheney or Blair still giving out advice on Iraq except this fuckwit never even worked in the area.

The fucking arrogance of these pricks is astonishing.

[Anonymous]

Allow me to pick one particular sentence out of your post, Sesh.


This is an impossible barrier to market entry for new power sources.

Well, DUH!

What the hell have I been saying all along? There won't be any alternatives until the ALLOW it. So, stop worrying. Short of a massacre like the French revolution, you're not gonna get anything out of your worries.

I'm all for guillotining the entire political class, bankers & CEOs, though. Someone get the ball rolling, I have a particular politician that I want for myself...

http://s29.postimg.org/693ri1jfr/220px_Jos_S_crates_cropped.png

Cheers! :beers:

[VetteLS5]

Climate Depot (http://www.climatedepot.com/2014/06/29/scientists-and-studies-predict-imminent-global-cooling-ahead-drop-in-global-temps-almost-a-slam-dunk/)

Russia’s Pulkovo Observatory: ‘We could be in for a cooling period that lasts 200-250 years’

"Wha? Shit there goes a SAM. Be back to you later"

[ELVIS]

'I've been banned by the BBC!': Ex-Chancellor Lord Lawson, a passionate climate change sceptic, accuses BBC bosses of silencing debate on global warming



You mean the network that Sesh uses to promote the "very complicated subject" of global warming ??

[ELVIS]

The fucking arrogance of these pricks is astonishing.

The BBC ??

I agree...

[Seshmeister]

Maybe if it were true...

It's like debating with Lionel Hutz... :D


http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/2305/55275108ud7.png

[Nickdfresh]

And that's not even mentioning stuff like a trillion to invade Iraq...

Yeah, I was going to mention a large portion of the military budget is earmarked for securing the Middle East...

[jacksmar]

Lawson was an odious toad faced conservative cunt who fucked up his job on a scale that makes the captain of the Titanic seem like an overachiever. The prick managed to lose 10% of the governments money in a day. That's fucking spectacular even Nitro will back me up. 10s of billions he should have been strung up on a meat hook.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Wednesday

Its like Cheney or Blair still giving out advice on Iraq except this fuckwit never even worked in the area.

The fucking arrogance of these pricks is astonishing.


so, the tories vs labour..........

is that still going on????????????


btw, about the same time in the US, we had congress writing checks at the post office right after they bailed out the S&L's.......

meanwhile in hope, ark; a governor was fucking anybody but his wife..........................

[Seshmeister]

Who they fuck is the least of my worries.

[ELVIS]

Yeah, I was going to mention a large portion of the military budget is earmarked for securing the Middle East...

Securing ??

Do you by bridges ??

[ELVIS]

Who they fuck is the least of my worries.

Yeah, because to hell with character and honesty...

[Nickdfresh]

Securing ??

Do you by bridges ??

No dolt. You maintain a large, expensive military capable of deploying anywhere in the world.



Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

[ELVIS]

No dolt. You maintain a large, expensive military capable of deploying anywhere in the world.



Is that what the Constitution says ??

[FORD]

No, actually the Founding Fathers wanted exactly the opposite. They didn't even want a standing army HERE, let alone military bases all over the world, in countries where the wars ended half a century ago.

That's where that whole 2nd Amendement thing came in. The important part was actually the "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state". The "keep and bear arms" part was so that militia could be called up if and when needed, if there was a threat to the country. It wasn't about taking your AR-15 to the local fast food joint and scaring the shit out of everybody.

[FORD]

This right wing moronic jackass has a new conspiracy theory about Global Climate Change. It's not the corporations causing pollution that's the problem. It's the world refusing to support NuttyYahoo and the Likud Zionfascist agenda to "restore" Israel to it's "proper" Nile to the Euphrates borders established by God Himself way back in the book of Genesis.........



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOj9UxMX2rQ

Of course, the right wing moronic jackass fails to realize that God's little talk with Abraham took place before he had ANY children, and also included the part where God told Abe he would be the father of MANY nations, and that the borders He described were to be the land for ALL of Abe's descendants, and not just the one branch of the family tree..

But then, that would require this moron to actually READ his Bible, which he probably has never done.

[FORD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIlQYab6KJo

[ELVIS]

Who cares ??

[Seshmeister]

This right wing moronic jackass has a new conspiracy theory about Global Climate Change. It's not the corporations causing pollution that's the problem. It's the world refusing to support NuttyYahoo and the Likud Zionfascist agenda to "restore" Israel to it's "proper" Nile to the Euphrates borders established by God Himself way back in the book of Genesis.........



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOj9UxMX2rQ

Of course, the right wing moronic jackass fails to realize that God's little talk with Abraham took place before he had ANY children, and also included the part where God told Abe he would be the father of MANY nations, and that the borders He described were to be the land for ALL of Abe's descendants, and not just the one branch of the family tree..

But then, that would require this moron to actually READ his Bible, which he probably has never done.

This like arguing about whether the Big Bad Wolf had brown fur or black.

[ELVIS]

No it isn't...

But you're both lost, so it's like two lost sheep arguing over a falsehood...

[Seshmeister]

I'd rather be a lost sheep than a found one.

[DONNIEP]

I'd rather be a lost sheep than a found one.

Oooh...you're gonna go straight to Hell! Jesus - get in here and minister to this man!

[Seshmeister]

Who wants to be a lamb kebab?
It's funny no one ever points out the sheep analogy it's so signposted there in clear view.
The preacher takes the most compliant stupid animal there was in Bronze Age times and then calls his followers that duh.
In modern translations of the bible they should replace the word sheep with 'sucker'.

[ELVIS]

I'd rather be a lost sheep than a found one.

I take that back...

You're not a lost sheep because you'd have to first be a sheep, but you've obviously never had a Shepherd...

You we're probably born in the wilderness and there you choose to dwell...

But be warned, seasons come to and end and the wilderness can get real ugly...

A good Shepherd protects His sheep...:)

[ELVIS]

It's funny no one ever points out the sheep analogy it's so signposted there in clear view.
The preacher takes the most compliant stupid animal there was in Bronze Age times and then calls his followers that duh.
In modern translations of the bible they should replace the word sheep with 'sucker'.

Pure ignorance...

[Seshmeister]

I take that back...

You're not a lost sheep because you'd have to first be a sheep, but you've obviously never had a Shepherd...



Damn right!

How many have you been through so far? :biggrin:

[ELVIS]

There's only one...

[FORD]

I take that back...

You're not a lost sheep because you'd have to first be a sheep, but you've obviously never had a Shepherd...



I did, when I was a kid.

Best dog ever. :(

[Seshmeister]

There's only one...

Christopher Lambert?

[Nickdfresh]

Christopher Lambert?

Ha! :D

[ELVIS]

Best dog ever. :(

You need a new dog...

[Jesus Christ]

Oooh...you're gonna go straight to Hell! Jesus - get in here and minister to this man!

Been there, done that. He never listens :(

[FORD]

You need a new dog...

Wouldn't have a dog right now. Got no fenced in yard. Barely a yard at all, so the dog could never be outside without being on a leash, and be stuck indoors by himself when I wasn't home.

That's no kind of life for a dog.

[Anonymous]

Oh hell, not this hippie troublemaker again. I'm gonna chase the dude with a stick, one of these days.

Hey Jesus! Found yourself a job? Started making yourself useful to society yet?

Talk about a cross to bear... the whole civilized world - the unwashed Middle East doesn't count - supporting this lazy bum.

Cheers! :beers:

[Anonymous]

Wouldn't have a dog right now. Got no fenced in yard. Barely a yard at all, so the dog could never be outside without being on a leash, and be stuck indoors by himself when I wasn't home.

That's no kind of life for a dog.

Tell that to E.'s wife!

Cheers! :beers:

[ELVIS]

You don't need to talk about my wife like Dickforbrains likes to do...

Go to hell if that's how you want to act...

[ELVIS]

Been there, done that. He never listens :(

You'e not a Shepherd...

Not even remotely close...

[DONNIEP]

Been there, done that. He never listens :(

Did you tell him about the new, special offer??

That's right, Sesh! If you get right with the Lord within the next 5 days, you'll receive this kick ass trucker's hat! Now I know what you're thinking, "Salvation and a free hat?? That's too good to be true!" Well, to quote my good friend Early Cuyler, "God is gooder than hell." Yes, He is. So sober up, get on your knees and make that call! Salvation is open to everybody but I only got one extra hat so act now!

http://s30.postimg.org/kteetwght/6_EBCAC4_F_1931_41_A0_9_BE1_C9_FEC17578_C5_zpsnlbp zm7p.jpg

[Anonymous]

You don't need to talk about my wife like Dickforbrains likes to do...

Go to hell if that's how you want to act...

No, I meant she should let you out for walkies every now & then. :D

I'm mocking YOU, E. Not your wife. I wouldn't stoop so low as to talk shit about someone's family.

Cheers! :beers:

[Kristy]

You don't need to talk about my wife like Dickforbrains likes to do...

Go to hell if that's how you want to act...

LOL!

Dumbellvis' wife is quite possibly a bigger twat than he is.

[Anonymous]

LOL!

Dumbellvis' wife is quite possibly a bigger twat than he is.

That's not cool, Kristy.

Let's all abuse each other, fine. But bringing in people's families into this shithole is very, very low. I thought only one left here was slimy enough to do this kind of shit.

Please be bigger than him.

Cheers! :beers:

[Kristy]

Fuck him and his Louisiana inbreed racist wife.
http://dummidumbwit.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/harris_chris_daviddukewithwife-450x300.jpg

[DONNIEP]

Fuck him and his Louisiana inbreed racist wife.
http://dummidumbwit.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/harris_chris_daviddukewithwife-450x300.jpg

Mom, Dad..Kristy - what you have you done???

[vandeleur]

Nah ..... Am not buying it ,unless they intend to burn those books .

[Kristy]

Hey, what do I know? Just yesterday I found out my vagina is a steering wheel

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Hey, what do I know? Just yesterday I found out my vagina is a steering wheel

allegedly...

[VetteLS5]

Hey, what do I know? Just yesterday I found out my vagina is a steering wheel

Airbag?

[Kristy]

That's Radiohead, dumbass.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Airbag?

cruise control? :)

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Airbag?

radio controls?

[Nickdfresh]

You don't need to talk about my wife like Dickforbrains likes to do...

Go to hell if that's how you want to act...

Well you're a douche that makes racist caricature comments about other people's' kids and makes classless comments in memorial threads, you pussy. When you move into your bunker, we won't have you to kick around any more...

[Nickdfresh]

And BTW, I've never actually insulted Elvis' wife as I recall, I actually feel sorry that she got suckered into marrying a conspiracy dimwit that leeches off her....

[Kristy]

I suspect there are very few of us here who dont either work for a living now or will work for a living in the future. Having to work to earn the money to pay your bills, rent, mortgage whatever defines you as working class. I don't think there are that many of us living off a parental allowance/trust fund/royal list that would put us out of that field. But I could be wrong.

[Kristy]

By the way, I wrote that while high.

[DONNIEP]

By the way, I wrote that while high.

I kinda figured that out... :biggrin:

[Jesus Christ]

You'e not a Shepherd...

Not even remotely close...

Gregory, ye knoweth that it is written that a foolish man build his house upon the sand. But verily I say unto you that it is just as foolish for a man to build his house upon a swamp, below sea level, and then deny the facts when the learned men of science tell you what is happening, and what will happen, based on logical reason and analysis.

It is foolish for a man to deny science, particularly when he drags My name into his denial. For nowhere in My gospel did I ever tell anybody to deny reality.

[Kristy]

So Jesus, whaddya think of the library at Denver Seminary?

http://www.denverseminary.edu/monkimage.php?mediaDirectory=mediafiles&mediaId=2699905&fileName=resources-main-header-800-295-0-0.jpg

Loadsa of books written about YOU for some reason in that place.

[Jesus Christ]

In a Seminary? Well I would hope so! :jesuslol:

[DONNIEP]

For nowhere in My gospel did I ever tell anybody to deny reality.

This little tidbit gets me in trouble at holiday dinners almost every year :biggrin:

[Kristy]

In a Seminary? Well I would hope so! :jesuslol:

We should "hang" out there sometime.

I'll bring the crosses.

[DONNIEP]

We should "hang" out there sometime.

I'll bring the crosses.

Well that just went down in the book... :nono: