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Nickdfresh
07-17-2014, 11:25 AM
Breaking now, a Malaysian passenger plane has just went down in the Ukraine near the Russian border...

The title is purely speculative BTW...

ELVIS
07-17-2014, 11:27 AM
Hmmm...

That sucks...

WWIII here we come...

vandeleur
07-17-2014, 11:29 AM
Just seen that on sky news , headline seemed like a punch line

Nickdfresh
07-17-2014, 11:29 AM
It does suck. Horrible. It was a Boeing 777

(note to self: NEVER fly Malaysian airlines!!!)

vandeleur
07-17-2014, 11:31 AM
Not sure if it's a bit of confusion as Russia have downed at least one possibly two Ukrainian fighters in the last 24hrs .

vandeleur
07-17-2014, 11:32 AM
Not saying they are similar planes just the word jet aeroplane could confuse .

PETE'S BROTHER
07-17-2014, 11:34 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/17/world/europe/ukraine-malaysia-airlines-crash/index.html

vandeleur
07-17-2014, 11:35 AM
Yeah bbc confirm it's a passenger jet , shit that's an unLucky airline

Nickdfresh
07-17-2014, 11:36 AM
Not sure if it's a bit of confusion as Russia have downed at least one possibly two Ukrainian fighters in the last 24hrs .

They shot down a large AN12 transport plane a few days back. There were nearly 300 people on board the Malaysia flight. It was flying from the Netherlands and may have been shot down by a fighter, again speculative...

Kristy
07-17-2014, 11:38 AM
It does suck. Horrible. It was a Boeing 777

(note to self: NEVER fly Malaysian airlines!!!)

Their insurance rates must be sky high.

ELVIS
07-17-2014, 11:41 AM
Such compassion...

Kristy
07-17-2014, 11:44 AM
Such compassion...

Ha! Coming form a xenophobic racist such as yourself.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j243/neko421/IronyOverload.jpg

ELVIS
07-17-2014, 11:46 AM
Whatever loser...

Back to reality...

FORD
07-17-2014, 11:47 AM
Oh, so this is a NEW Malaysian plane crash?

OK, I did think it was a little weird if somebody was blaming the last one on the Russians.

ELVIS
07-17-2014, 11:48 AM
It does suck. Horrible. It was a Boeing 777



295 people flying from Amsterdam, gone...

Plus how many from the other Malaysian flight, 280 or so ??

Unreal...:(

Nickdfresh
07-17-2014, 11:49 AM
The speculation is that Russians have been shooting into Ukrainian airspace and may have pulled the trigger on this one, from the air most likely...

CNN is reporting that the Pentagon believes that the Russians shot down a Ukrainian transport plane (an AN12, about the size of an airliner) on Monday from Russian airspace, again possibly from a fighter launching a missile...

ELVIS
07-17-2014, 11:53 AM
:elvis:

vandeleur
07-17-2014, 11:54 AM
Sadly that pic looks like most of the border between Ukraine and Russia

ELVIS
07-17-2014, 11:56 AM
:elvis:

vandeleur
07-17-2014, 12:01 PM
That isn't mh17

Nickdfresh
07-17-2014, 12:09 PM
The Russian Separatist "defense minister" of the "Donetsk Peoples Republic" claimed to have downed a Ukrainian plane shortly after contact was lost with Malaysia Airlines MH17...

ELVIS
07-17-2014, 12:11 PM
Hmmm...

vandeleur
07-17-2014, 12:17 PM
E does it bother you that you posted any old shit plane crash video ???

Nickdfresh
07-17-2014, 12:18 PM
E does it bother you that you posted any old shit plane crash video ???

Nothing regarding actual facts or verifiable information bothers him...

FORD
07-17-2014, 12:20 PM
E does it bother you that you posted any old shit plane crash video ???

Have you seen all the completely unrelated photos he's been posting in the threads about the Central American refugee kids? He posted the fucking Indonesian smoking baby in one of them.

vandeleur
07-17-2014, 12:31 PM
I know but it's fun to call him on stuff because he runs away and starts a thread on something else :D

DONNIEP
07-17-2014, 12:32 PM
Have you seen all the completely unrelated photos he's been posting in the threads about the Central American refugee kids? He posted the fucking Indonesian smoking baby in one of them.

You gotta admit the smoking baby is kinda funny...

Nitro Express
07-17-2014, 12:37 PM
I'm staying neutral on this. The criminal government in Kiev is not beyond shooting a plane down in order to blame the Russians. Their atrocities in the Ukraine are well known.

FORD
07-17-2014, 12:39 PM
You gotta admit the smoking baby is kinda funny...

Well, aside from being addicted to something that will probably kill him before he reaches puberty, sure. But he's not a Guatemalan kid in either case.

Nickdfresh
07-17-2014, 12:42 PM
I'm staying neutral on this. The criminal government in Kiev is not beyond shooting a plane down in order to blame the Russians. Their atrocities in the Ukraine are well known.

"Neutral? " LOL How does Putin's dick taste, old man?

Maybe you should talk to some of your old CIA contacts to know what the fuck you are actually talking about?

Which atrocities are you talking about? The Russian Separatists summarily executing and kidnapping people?

DONNIEP
07-17-2014, 12:44 PM
Well, aside from being addicted to something that will probably kill him before he reaches puberty, sure. But he's not a Guatemalan kid in either case.

You, sir, are a party pooper.

ELVIS
07-17-2014, 01:12 PM
E does it bother you that you posted any old shit plane crash video ???

Not really...

Is this a court of law ??

vandeleur
07-17-2014, 01:24 PM
Not really...

Is this a court of law ??


No E I thought you were bound by a higher calling , remember the truth in people's hearts blah blah blah speech :)

Nickdfresh
07-17-2014, 01:46 PM
Is this a culprit?

The Buk SAM:
http://rt.com/files/politics/kuril-islands-defense-military-736/buk-m1-anti-aircraft-missile-system.jpg

ELVIS
07-17-2014, 01:46 PM
Dude, that video was posted within an hour after the crash...

I was just trying to be helpful with information...

Believe it or not, I have a life away from the internet and I'm actually a very busy person...

PETE'S BROTHER
07-17-2014, 01:47 PM
Dude, that video was posted within an hour after the crash...

I was just trying to be helpful with information...

Believe it or not, I have a life away from the internet and I'm actually a very busy person...

not...

ELVIS
07-17-2014, 01:49 PM
Don't quit your desk job...:rolleyes:

PETE'S BROTHER
07-17-2014, 01:50 PM
Don't quit your desk job...:rolleyes:

soon :thumb:

PETE'S BROTHER
07-17-2014, 01:52 PM
Don't quit your desk job...:rolleyes:

i don't have car wash rewiring skills or i would consider it

Nitro Express
07-17-2014, 01:58 PM
"Neutral? " LOL How does Putin's dick taste, old man?

Maybe you should talk to some of your old CIA contacts to know what the fuck you are actually talking about?

Which atrocities are you talking about? The Russian Separatists summarily executing and kidnapping people?

Neutral means not taking sides. Maybe you better talk to someone from Donesk or Odessa. Let's start with firing on civilians. Firing on Ukrainian soldiers who refuse to fire on civilians and killing reporters.

Also Russia seems busy building it's foreign relations and focusing on it's new role in the BRICKS. What does it have to gain shooting down airliners over the Ukraine? It seems counter productive since people from the countries Russia is trying to build relations with might be on the plane.

vandeleur
07-17-2014, 02:02 PM
Russia is building it's foreign relations , with china . It's scaring the fuck out of Europe .

Kristy
07-17-2014, 02:08 PM
Believe it or not, I have a life away from the internet and I'm actually a very busy person...

So you actually do live under a bridge? And of course you are a "busy person" meeting twice a week with your social worker and collecting all the aluminum cans in your trailer park before the those "illegals" do. Well then do carry on, asshole.

DLR Bridge
07-17-2014, 02:09 PM
i don't have car wash rewiring skills or i would consider it

Quite possibly, the 'from out of nowhere' comeback of the year. :winner:

Nitro Express
07-17-2014, 02:27 PM
Russia is building it's foreign relations , with china . It's scaring the fuck out of Europe .

If you are so concerned about China stop buying their stuff.

ELVIS
07-17-2014, 02:29 PM
i don't have car wash rewiring skills

I'll bet you don't...

It's difficult and requires experience in electricity as well as mechanics...

ELVIS
07-17-2014, 02:32 PM
So you actually do live under a bridge? And of course you are a "busy person" meeting twice a week with your social worker and collecting all the aluminum cans in your trailer park before the those "illegals" do. Well then do carry on, asshole.

Why would one need a social worker to collect cans ??

Nitro Express
07-17-2014, 02:32 PM
No major power is going to invade another major power. There are things called nuclear weapons to deter that. The war going on is a media and financial war. It's not about rolling Europe. It's about breaking the petro-dollar monopoly on world markets. This BRICS alliance is part of that.

Kristy
07-17-2014, 02:35 PM
Why would one need a social worker to collect cans ??

Wow. Back from your bridge so soon? Or did all the other "Info Warriors" at the other sites you troll at kick you out? Must be rough, having a "life" away from here and all.

Kristy
07-17-2014, 02:40 PM
No major power is going to invade another major power. There are things called nuclear weapons to deter that.

Are you beyond the times. You don't need a weapon to invade another county. You do it economically without ever having to fire a shot.

vandeleur
07-17-2014, 02:43 PM
No major power is going to invade another major power. There are things called nuclear weapons to deter that. The war going on is a media and financial war. It's not about rolling Europe. It's about breaking the petro-dollar monopoly on world markets. This BRICS alliance is part of that.

Sorry nitro I didn't realise you had bought a cave next to e ;-)

No you don't invade , you just split the country in half have your troops without insignia all over it and keep going until someone stops you or bingo you have your Warsaw Pact buffer back .

I know I know , petrol dollars bankers blah blah blah . I like blah am gonna use it lots today .

I realise we are painting a less than subtle picture here but Russia are shit stirring regardless.

and that's a fact because Jesus told me and so did my contact in mi5 who I worked with during our time in Palestine :)

DONNIEP
07-17-2014, 02:55 PM
and that's a fact because Jesus told me and so did my contact in mi5 who I worked with during our time in Palestine :)

Wouldn't that be MI6?

vandeleur
07-17-2014, 02:56 PM
Wouldn't that be MI6?

Of course you are correct and have blown my cover .












Bond geek :D

DONNIEP
07-17-2014, 03:08 PM
Of course you are correct and have blown my cover .












Bond geek :D

Ssshhhh...don't tell anybody!

Nitro Express
07-17-2014, 03:49 PM
Sorry nitro I didn't realise you had bought a cave next to e ;-)

No you don't invade , you just split the country in half have your troops without insignia all over it and keep going until someone stops you or bingo you have your Warsaw Pact buffer back .

I know I know , petrol dollars bankers blah blah blah . I like blah am gonna use it lots today .

I realise we are painting a less than subtle picture here but Russia are shit stirring regardless.

and that's a fact because Jesus told me and so did my contact in mi5 who I worked with during our time in Palestine :)

I think it's the other way. NATO moved east. You know after they bombed Yugoslavia and broke that all up. Yeah the Russians are coming into Western Europe. They spend their oil money shopping there.

Nitro Express
07-17-2014, 03:51 PM
Are you beyond the times. You don't need a weapon to invade another county. You do it economically without ever having to fire a shot.

Yeah. The IMF and World Bank have been doing that quite well for the last half century.

ELVIS
07-17-2014, 04:01 PM
Don't tell him that...

Sum Ting Wong
07-17-2014, 05:11 PM
I no fry dis prane!

PETE'S BROTHER
07-17-2014, 05:12 PM
I no fry dis prane!

bang ding ow

DLR Bridge
07-17-2014, 05:14 PM
That amateur video they keep showing on CNN looks a lot like an explosion on the ground. I know it was from far away, but you see nothing streaming out of the sky. This whole thing has an air of Shanksville/Pentagon suspiciousness to me. How is the U.S. able to declare that this jet was downed by a missile?

ELVIS
07-17-2014, 05:41 PM
How is the U.S. able to declare that this jet was downed by a missile?

The same way Obomba told the young people of Africa that the world will boil over if they have cars and air conditioning...

Seshmeister
07-17-2014, 06:13 PM
Dude, that video was posted within an hour after the crash...

I was just trying to be helpful with information...

Believe it or not, I have a life away from the internet and I'm actually a very busy person...

Finally you made a funny post. :biggrin:

More of this please!

vandeleur
07-17-2014, 06:51 PM
I think it's the other way. NATO moved east. You know after they bombed Yugoslavia and broke that all up. Yeah the Russians are coming into Western Europe. They spend their oil money shopping there.



What , have you been to the former yugoslavia ???? does your history book come from an episode of the twilight light zone ? Its like Janet and John. Tito kept the melting pot of hatred by sheer power . Yugoslavia was splitting up years before it went tits up . Pity because I used to like holidays there :)

Actually have you been to any of the former eastern block ??? I have holidayed there and worked there.
Saying the west broke it up .... is :biggrin: damn your poking the bear ... well played .

vandeleur
07-17-2014, 06:54 PM
Actually its the interweb ..... I live there now . I discovered it . Oh Those were the days when me and Donnie first started Yugoslavia . We need to get back to those days ...... Did I tell you I discovered it :)

PETE'S BROTHER
07-17-2014, 06:56 PM
Actually its the interweb ..... I live there now . I discovered it . Oh Those were the days when me and Donnie first started Yugoslavia . We need to get back to those days ...... Did I tell you I discovered it :)

i remember you called it trannslabia

PETE'S BROTHER
07-17-2014, 06:57 PM
i remember you called it trannslabia

home of the nudger shadows

DONNIEP
07-17-2014, 06:59 PM
Actually its the interweb ..... I live there now . I discovered it . Oh Those were the days when me and Donnie first started Yugoslavia . We need to get back to those days ...... Did I tell you I discovered it :)

Those were good days. We should go find some of those islands where the natives are completely cut off from civilization and tell them we are Gods!

vandeleur
07-17-2014, 06:59 PM
i remember you called it trannslabia

Thats got ima and donniep's name written all over it :)

DONNIEP
07-17-2014, 07:05 PM
i remember you called it trannslabia

A Trannie with labia?? Izzy's head will explode!

vandeleur
07-17-2014, 07:06 PM
and his pants :)

Kristy
07-17-2014, 07:20 PM
This didn't take long

On Thursday, conservative talk-radio host Rush Limbaugh tossed around an insane conspiracy theory regarding the Malaysian jet airliner that crashed in Ukraine. Limbaugh suggested that the airline crash, which the US has confirmed was caused by a surface-to-air missile, occurred at the perfect time for the media to “abandon the Obama news at the border.” Limbaugh made sure to carefully parse his words and point out that this all was just “really eerie.” However, it was clear what the Republican mouthpiece was implying with his comments.

"RUSH: Holy cow, folks. Have you seen the news? A Malaysian Airlines flight has been shot down by a missile over Ukraine, at least according to an advisory to Ukraine’s interior ministry. The Interfax News Agency — which has nothing to do with fax machines. It’s what the Soviets used to call their news agency, Interfax. You didn’t know that, did you?

They even had a hotel chain called Interfax and everybody thought, “What? Is it fax machines?” and it had nothing to do with that. Anyway, it’s a Malaysian Airlines jet. You know, I’ve got the British Open on to the top monitor. I haven’t had CNN on all day. What do you bet they have broomed everything and are covering wall-to-wall the Malaysian Airlines flight shot down by a missile?

I mean, you talk about… I don’t want appear to be callous here, folks, but you talk about an opportunity to abandon the Obama news at the border? And, no, I’m not suggesting anything other than how the media operates. Anyway, it’s eerie. It is really eerie. A Malaysian airliner. It was on the way to Kuala Lumpur. Why would it be shot down? Over Ukraine? It was shot down by a missile."

FORD
07-17-2014, 07:41 PM
Yeah, sure Mush.....

Let me guess, Obama himself shut down the plane with his super secret Kenyan super extra really goddamned long range missle launcher from his hotel balcony in Denver. Or where ever the fuck he is today.

Nitro Express
07-17-2014, 07:44 PM
What , have you been to the former yugoslavia ???? does your history book come from an episode of the twilight light zone ? Its like Janet and John. Tito kept the melting pot of hatred by sheer power . Yugoslavia was splitting up years before it went tits up . Pity because I used to like holidays there :)

Actually have you been to any of the former eastern block ??? I have holidayed there and worked there.
Saying the west broke it up .... is :biggrin: damn your poking the bear ... well played .

Sure there were tensions and sure it usually keeps a dictator to hold it together but NATO or US bombs only fall where there is commercial interests. Ahem. Mineral wealth in Kosovo and energy routes.


NATO came to the negotiating table with three basic economic objectives in Kosovo and Yugoslavia in 1999: (1) to dismantle Yugoslavia’s competing socialist economic system, (2) to gain control of valuable mineral resources, and (3) to command the site of a future energy distribution network.

Chossudovsky (2003) argues that NATO sought to dismantle the socialist economic system in Yugoslavia. He notes that Western intervention in Yugoslavia prior to the Kosovo Crisis was not limited merely to the diplomatic maneuvering described by Galbraith. In fact, a Reagan-era document from 1984, National Security Decision Directive [NSDD] 133 – “U.S. Policy Towards Yugoslavia,” encouraged the dismantling of its communist system:

A censored version, declassified in 1990, elaborated on NSDD 64 on Eastern Europe issued in 1982. The later advocated “expanded efforts to promote a ‘quiet revolution’ to overthrow Communist governments and parties,” while reintegrating the countries of Eastern Europe into a market-oriented economy.[15]


Describing this focus a year before the NATO intervention, New York Times columnist Chris Hedges labeled northern Kosovo’s mines, rich in “lead, zinc, cadmium, gold and silver,” as the “Kosovo war’s glittering prize.”[22] According to one mine’s director, Novak Bjelic, “the [ethnic] war in Kosovo is about the mines, nothing else. This is Serbia’s Kuwait — the heart of Kosovo.”[23] Hedges described the millions of tons of valuable metals produced by the Trepca mine complex in the three years preceding his article, the strategic role of these resources in military infrastructure from the Second World War to the present, and Kosovo’s “17 billion tons of coal reserves.”[24] He also recounted the ethnic conflicts between Serbs and Albanians over the mines where, for example, the $5 billion-dollar mine complex itself became a centre of Albanian militancy.

Now what is going on in the Ukraine? It's being robbed. Even Joe Biden's son got in on the taking. Workers wages have been cut. Social Security payments are cut in half. When the EU or US say they are coming to spread democracy they really are saying the IMF and World Bank are coming in to spread em and fuck you up the ass. It's been a very long time since the US Government has been the good guy. The US citizens on the other hand are still a charitable bunch. It kind of sucks when corporations and banks have taken over your government. Here it's cost us money and freedom. In the countries they decide to play with it costs in blood. It's all about assets and playing geopolitical games. It's not about helping anyone.

Kristy
07-17-2014, 07:44 PM
Obama does not like Denver due to legal weed knowing he and his progressive Rethuglicon buddies are not making any money from locking up those who use it in one of their prison-for-profit systems.

Nitro Express
07-17-2014, 07:45 PM
Obama does not like Denver due to legal weed knowing he and his progressive Rethuglicon buddies are not making any money from locking up those who use it in one of their prison-for-profit systems.

Obama is the BCE's favorite house boy.

Kristy
07-17-2014, 07:46 PM
And it gets worse:
Watch the latest video at video.foxbusiness.com

Va Beach VH Fan
07-17-2014, 08:25 PM
Anyone else think about KAL007 in '83 and Gary Moore after today's events?

Kristy
07-17-2014, 08:27 PM
Anyone else think about KAL007 in '83 and Gary Moore after today's events?

No. Not really.

FORD
07-17-2014, 08:34 PM
Geezus.... I got about 30 seconds into that FAUX video and had to turn it off. Have no idea who any of those idiots are, but they make the fools on "The Five" look like brainiacs, by comparison.

Va Beach VH Fan
07-17-2014, 08:35 PM
No. Not really.

Understandable, you probably weren't even born by 1983.....

Nitro Express
07-17-2014, 08:44 PM
And it gets worse:
Watch the latest video at video.foxbusiness.com

Fox News spazes. At least the guy in the glasses has a half a brain. All I know is I'm not flying Air Malaysia. First they lose a plane and then one blows up or gets shot down.

Seshmeister
07-17-2014, 08:45 PM
I'll bet you don't...

It's difficult and requires experience in electricity as well as mechanics...

Experience in electricity?

That's a killer line for any resume in Lousiana I guess. :D

I would have thought your main skill was knowing how long you had before the lights change...

http://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/070829/070829_florence_hmed_5p.grid-6x2.jpg

Kristy
07-17-2014, 08:47 PM
Thank fuck for that! Your tunes, bands and pop culture thoroughly sucked in the 80's. A life without Katy Perry is a life not worth living.

vandeleur
07-17-2014, 08:48 PM
hahaha that is for sesh pic :)

Kristy
07-17-2014, 08:50 PM
I would have thought your main skill was knowing how long you had before the lights change...

Genius!

Nitro Express
07-17-2014, 08:51 PM
Geezus.... I got about 30 seconds into that FAUX video and had to turn it off. Have no idea who any of those idiots are, but they make the fools on "The Five" look like brainiacs, by comparison.

The spaz jock going on about Putin starting a war and the most aggressive country on the planet. LOL! Uh hate to break it to you jocko but the US is the most militarily aggressive country on the planet and Fox News says it's great. Then he goes on that a military intervention is not an option but the sanctions will hurt the economy. Oh what to do? LOL!

Nickdfresh
07-17-2014, 08:51 PM
Neutral means not taking sides.

Right! And you completely took sides with Vlad's dick in your mouth...


Maybe you better talk to someone from Donesk or Odessa.

You first, Wyoming closet case...


Let's start with firing on civilians. Firing on Ukrainian soldiers who refuse to fire on civilians and killing reporters.

Okay, you mean like Chechnya?


Also Russia seems busy building it's foreign relations and focusing on it's new role in the BRICKS. What does it have to gain shooting down airliners over the Ukraine? It seems counter productive since people from the countries Russia is trying to build relations with might be on the plane.

It gains nothing from shooting down an airliner. But Moscow's forces are an undisciplined rabble of children playing with rattle snakes! They're giving out heavy weapons like candy to fucking imbeciles. What the fuck do you THINK is going to happen?

Nickdfresh
07-17-2014, 08:55 PM
No major power is going to invade another major power. ..

You mean like Russia did the Crimea?

Kristy
07-17-2014, 08:55 PM
If you are so concerned about China stop buying their stuff.

One would have to put Donnie on a suicide watch if Walmarts everywhere suddenly closed.

DONNIEP
07-17-2014, 08:56 PM
Thank fuck for that! Your tunes, bands and pop culture thoroughly sucked in the 80's. A life without Katy Perry is a life not worth living.

You can't possibly be a Katy Perry fan...

DONNIEP
07-17-2014, 08:57 PM
One would have to put Donnie on a suicide watch if Walmarts everywhere suddenly closed.

Don't even talk like that. A world without Walmart? Where would I buy all my cheap Chinese junk?

Nitro Express
07-17-2014, 08:57 PM
Right! And you completely took sides with Vlad's dick in your mouth...



You first, Wyoming closet case...



Okay, you mean like Chechnya?



It gains nothing from shooting down an airliner. But Moscow's forces are an undisciplined rabble of children playing with rattle snakes! They're giving out heavy weapons like candy to fucking imbeciles. What the fuck do you THINK is going to happen?

.....and that's the response from our geopolitical expert. Putin sucks dicks and don't give children heavy weapons.

Nitro Express
07-17-2014, 08:58 PM
Don't even talk like that. A world without Walmart? Where would I buy all my cheap Chinese junk?

Rest easy. China isn't being blamed on shooting down the airliner. The pencil dick in the White House would never put sanctions on China. Walmart and the Chinese own him.

Kristy
07-17-2014, 09:00 PM
You can't possibly be a Katy Perry fan...

Definitely! She is made from more plastic than a Walmart Barbie.
http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users16/hannabeth/default/katy-perrys-obsession-latex-dress--large-msg-135347638812.jpg

Nitro Express
07-17-2014, 09:02 PM
You mean like Russia did the Crimea?

They voted on it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/17/world/europe/crimea-ukraine-secession-vote-referendum.html?_r=0

Nick. You get a job at Fox News. You would fit in there.

DONNIEP
07-17-2014, 09:02 PM
Definitely! She is made from more plastic than a Walmart Barbie.
http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users16/hannabeth/default/katy-perrys-obsession-latex-dress--large-msg-135347638812.jpg

I still don't believe it.

Kristy
07-17-2014, 09:03 PM
Well, believe the penis-esque microphone she's holding.

Nickdfresh
07-17-2014, 09:04 PM
.....and that's the response from our geopolitical expert. Putin sucks dicks and don't give children heavy weapons.

I'm not an expert, dickbag. you're just a fucking idiot too lazy to read an actual newspaper...

vandeleur
07-17-2014, 09:05 PM
They voted on it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/17/world/europe/crimea-ukraine-secession-vote-referendum.html?_r=0

Nick. You get a job at Fox News. You would fit in there.

Thats class , its good to know Russia is so democratic and will allow the independence of its states dependent on a democratic vote :)

vandeleur
07-17-2014, 09:06 PM
as a quick interlude I would defo do Katy Perry , tremendous rack

Nickdfresh
07-17-2014, 09:08 PM
She likes Brit cock apparently...

vandeleur
07-17-2014, 09:10 PM
Yeah , Now you mention it not sure am brave enough to go in after russell Brand

Kristy
07-17-2014, 09:10 PM
I'm not an expert, dickbag. you're just a fucking idiot too lazy to read an actual newspaper...

Dude, no one reads newspapers anymore. Idiot.

Kristy
07-17-2014, 09:11 PM
tremendous rack

100% Chinese plastic.

DONNIEP
07-17-2014, 09:12 PM
as a quick interlude I would defo do Katy Perry , tremendous rack

Katy Perry is a dude, Twink Hunter. :biggrin:

Nickdfresh
07-17-2014, 09:12 PM
Dude, no one reads newspapers anymore. Idiot.

Speak for yourself, you ignorant cunt.

vandeleur
07-17-2014, 09:14 PM
katy perry is a dude, twink hunter. :biggrin:


no no no ........... Dont spoilt it :)

Nitro Express
07-17-2014, 09:15 PM
Dude, no one reads newspapers anymore. Idiot.

Actually I read one this morning. Have to have something to start the charcoal chimney with. I can't use my iPhone for that.

Kristy
07-17-2014, 09:16 PM
Speak for yourself, you ignorant cunt.

I do speak for myself you fucking Borderline Personality Disordered fuckwit.

Fuck off and go Wiki some more half-assed arguments.

Nickdfresh
07-17-2014, 09:17 PM
I do speak for myself you fucking Borderline Personality Disordered fuckwit.

Fuck off and go Wiki some more half-asses arguments.

Borderline Personality? Tell me MORE!!! :D

Kristy
07-17-2014, 09:18 PM
Rather see you get cancer.

Nickdfresh
07-17-2014, 09:19 PM
Rather see you get cancer.

God you're fucking crazy :D

Nickdfresh
07-17-2014, 09:19 PM
But I love you you dumb fucking whore :D

Kristy
07-17-2014, 09:20 PM
God you're fucking crazy :D

You're the one suffering from a severe mental disorder.

PETE'S BROTHER
07-17-2014, 09:20 PM
Borderline Personality? Tell me MORE!!! :D

nnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Nickdfresh
07-17-2014, 09:23 PM
You're the one suffering from a severe mental disorder.

Where is that "irony" thing you posted earlier? :)

Kristy
07-17-2014, 09:24 PM
Where is that "irony" thing you posted earlier? :)

No idea you petulant little child. Grow the fuck up for once in your shitty life.

PETE'S BROTHER
07-17-2014, 09:24 PM
100% Chinese plastic.

it's racist not to buy their stuff at walmart

Nickdfresh
07-17-2014, 09:24 PM
No idea you petulant little child. Grow the fuck up for once in your shitty life.

:D Ha!

Nickdfresh
07-17-2014, 09:26 PM
Filthy whore, you need discipline ;)

Seshmeister
07-17-2014, 09:26 PM
Definitely! She is made from more plastic than a Walmart Barbie.
http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users16/hannabeth/default/katy-perrys-obsession-latex-dress--large-msg-135347638812.jpg

I think I've only heard half a song ever because I am so old and shit but I do like that she always looks so cheery.

She was good on the Simpsons too. We need more happy looking pretend people to cheer up the people in the real world.

vandeleur
07-17-2014, 09:26 PM
you can cut the sexual tension with a knife , kristy can I borrow one of yours :)

Nickdfresh
07-17-2014, 09:27 PM
Her rack cheers me up. :)

PETE'S BROTHER
07-17-2014, 09:27 PM
you can cut the sexual tension with a knife , kristy can I borrow one of yours :)

:gossip: it's got pee on it

vandeleur
07-17-2014, 09:28 PM
They are an american asset , a national treasure

PETE'S BROTHER
07-17-2014, 09:29 PM
They are an american asset , a national treasure

kristy's urine cutlery?

DONNIEP
07-17-2014, 09:29 PM
you can cut the sexual tension with a knife , kristy can I borrow one of yours :)

People said the same thing about Moonlighting and we all know how that turned out...

vandeleur
07-17-2014, 09:31 PM
No Katy Perry's rack

Kristy
07-17-2014, 09:31 PM
Filthy whore, you need discipline ;)

Disturbed individual you are an intractable social ill.

vandeleur
07-17-2014, 09:32 PM
look at them go for it , its like two ferrets in a sack .

cadaverdog
07-18-2014, 01:11 AM
How long ago did the conversation about who shot the missle go to shit?

FORD
07-18-2014, 02:04 AM
How long ago did the conversation about who shot the missle go to shit?

Don't think there's much to discuss yet. The Russians say it was the Ukranians. The Ukranians say it was the Russians. Only thing for certain that it wasn't some fuckwad with a shoulder fired rocket. Not 30,000 feet up. I also heard earlier in the day that because it was a cloudy day, the spy satellites might not have caught the actual launch of the missile. Though they probably should have enough footage available to tell from the hit which direction it came from, and then go from there.

FORD
07-18-2014, 02:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7235-lQj96A

FORD
07-18-2014, 02:15 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhHnxmJ0bIo

Nitro Express
07-18-2014, 02:54 AM
It either was an accident or someone wants to start a war. Ask yourself. Who benefits from starting a war?

Anonymous
07-18-2014, 06:33 AM
"Neutral? " LOL How does Putin's dick taste, old man?

Maybe you should talk to some of your old CIA contacts to know what the fuck you are actually talking about?

Which atrocities are you talking about? The Russian Separatists summarily executing and kidnapping people?

Jeezus fucking Christ! :lol:

In Suckadickfresh's world, everything is black & white. He's always on the side of Good & if you don't agree with him 100%, you're on the side of Evil. Even if you don't choose sides, he'll do it for you.

All Nitro did was post he was neutral & he immediately gets called a cocksucker.

Dude, you have serious issues. I hope that the reason you have billions of posts across thousands of sites is because you're locked up in a loony bin.

Have you filed a report to the FBI on Nitro's treasonous Neutral stance? He could be a Terrorist!

Let's all agree with Suckadickfresh & make him happy. Then Putin will read this thread & think "Hey, this guy has rallied an entire Army for his cause. That makes me realise I've been a naughty person, so I think I'll just surrender & let Nicky boy here judge me for all my sins".

Then Suckadickfresh will have a parade in his honour & be heralded as The Saviour of the World & everything will be fine again. Until the next World Crisis, that is... but the Universe can rest easy, knowing that SUCKADICKFRESH will always be posting on the internet!

http://s30.postimg.org/hwttav2f5/Suckadickfresh.jpg

Cheers! :beers:

Anonymous
07-18-2014, 06:44 AM
How long ago did the conversation about who shot the missle go to shit?

Right about the time someone didn't agree 100% with the Super Manchild.

Cheers! :beers:

vandeleur
07-18-2014, 06:50 AM
Two of the people on board were traveling to watch Newcastle play :

http://news.sky.com/story/1303351/newcastle-fans-killed-in-ukraine-crash

vandeleur
07-18-2014, 07:02 AM
11966

Nickdfresh
07-18-2014, 07:29 AM
It either was an accident or someone wants to start a war. Ask yourself. Who benefits from starting a war?

There already is a war there, idiot!

Nickdfresh
07-18-2014, 07:31 AM
Jeezus fucking Christ! :lol:

http://content7.flixster.com/photo/10/86/80/10868069_ori.jpg

Oh, the emotive pudgy people are chiming in! :D


In Suckadickfresh's world, everything is black & white. He's always on the side of Good & if you don't agree with him 100%, you're on the side of Evil. Even if you don't choose sides, he'll do it for you.

Oh, the clueless shitheads are poking out of the butt. ;)


All Nitro did was post he was neutral & he immediately gets called a cocksucker.

I didn't call him a cocksucker, moron He was "neutral?" If this were 1939 he'd be praising Hitler...


Dude, you have serious issues. I hope that the reason you have billions of posts across thousands of sites is because you're locked up in a loony bin.

I have issues? Dude, you're the one that roles around on the mat with other men, penislicker...


Have you filed a report to the FBI on Nitro's treasonous Neutral stance? He could be a Terrorist!

No.


Let's all agree with Suckadickfresh & make him happy. Then Putin will read this thread & think "Hey, this guy has rallied an entire Army for his cause. That makes me realise I've been a naughty person, so I think I'll just surrender & let Nicky boy here judge me for all my sins".

Then Suckadickfresh will have a parade in his honour & be heralded as The Saviour of the World & everything will be fine again. Until the next World Crisis, that is... but the Universe can rest easy, knowing that SUCKADICKFRESH will always be posting on the internet!

http://s30.postimg.org/hwttav2f5/Suckadickfresh.jpg

Cheers! :beers:

Thanks, I know you must be angry being a fat, stupid Portuguese person that has to suck dick to get laid, so I'll take everything you say with a grain of salt, Dom...

Nickdfresh
07-18-2014, 07:39 AM
Right about the time someone didn't agree 100% with the Super Manchild.

Cheers! :beers:

Again, you're a sweaty fat Portuguese fucktard that actually grapples with other men. I'm the "manchild?" :D You seriously crack me up, Imapenislicker. ;)

Anonymous
07-18-2014, 07:53 AM
http://content7.flixster.com/photo/10/86/80/10868069_ori.jpg

Oh, the emotive pudgy people are chiming in! :D



Oh, the clueless shitheads are poking out of the butt. ;)



I didn't call him a cocksucker, moron He was "neutral?" If this were 1939 he'd be praising Hitler...



I have issues? Dude, you're the one that roles around on the mat with other men, penislicker...



No.



Thanks, I know you must be angry being a fat, stupid Portuguese person that has to suck dick to get laid, so I'll take everything you say with a grain of salt, Dom...

Well, you asked him how Putin's dick tastes... that's calling him a cocksucker, no?

He did say he was neutral. Twice. So now anyone who doesn't agree with you is a Nazi? Nice! :lol:

So, you're implying that I'm an homosexual & therefore I have issues? What happened to being tolerant, Nicky? :(

And Dom DeLuise fucking ruled, thanks for the compliment. But why do you think I'm angry? I'm not the one exploding left & right with accusatory, ranting posts that have no relevance to the issue being discussed & often contradict what you claim you're about.

Still, it's nice to know you can have a valid, adult discussion without resorting to childish insults. :thumb:

I know, I know, I made fun of your name first, but that's because it sends you on a rampage & that's always entertaining to watch. ;)

Have you saved the Galaxy today?

Cheers! :beers:

Anonymous
07-18-2014, 07:57 AM
Again, you're a sweaty fat Portuguese fucktard that actually grapples with other men. I'm the "manchild?" :D You seriously crack me up, Imapenislicker. ;)

No, you're a mature, reasonable & well-adjusted adult, as evidenced by your posts. :D

Cheers! :beers:

Nickdfresh
07-18-2014, 07:58 AM
No, you're a mature, reasonable & well-adjusted adult, as evidenced by your posts. :D

Cheers! :beers:

Why thank you!

Nickdfresh
07-18-2014, 08:06 AM
Well, you asked him how Putin's dick tastes... that's calling him a cocksucker, no?

Because it's pretty offensive and akin to blaming a rape victim for her attack. You don't have to run to the aid of your boy NyQuil, he can handle himself.


He did say he was neutral. Twice. So now anyone who doesn't agree with you is a Nazi? Nice! :lol:

He posted his opinion, then I posted mine. No one asked for yours, either...


So, you're implying that I'm an homosexual & therefore I have issues? What happened to being tolerant, Nicky? :(

Um, excuse moi, I know you are pretty "slow", but you're gonna play the gay-friendly card now? Um, didn't YOU call me 'suckdicknick' or something? But I'M the homophobe! I'm pretty sure you're antics would be vastly more offensive to the gay community than mine ever have...


Again, I know things like irony and your own blatant hypocrisy, double-standards and stupidity escape you. But try to keep up...


And Dom DeLuise fucking ruled, thanks for the compliment.

He did!


But why do you think I'm angry? I'm not the one exploding left & right with accusatory, ranting posts that have no relevance to the issue being discussed & often contradict what you claim you're about.

I dunno, you seem to stalk me from thread to thread and actively look for things to tighten your wrestling panties about so you can call me names. That hurts my feelings...


Still, it's nice to know you can have a valid, adult discussion without resorting to childish insults. :thumb:

Do you actually read any of your fucking posts, moron?


I know, I know, I made fun of your name first, but that's because it sends you on a rampage & that's always entertaining to watch. ;)

Have you saved the Galaxy today?

Cheers! :beers:

I know fatty, you're just all fun and games...

Anonymous
07-18-2014, 08:11 AM
Wow, such hatred. How's your blood pressure, Suckdickfresh?

Make sure you take your medicine.

If you die, the whole world is going to hell. I mean, who else is going to carry the burden of saving the planet behind a keyboard? Or post vitriolic replies that have nothing to do with what was written in the first place?

We can't afford to lose you, you're way too valuable. Please take care of yourself. And keep on being tolerant!

Cheers! :beers:

Nickdfresh
07-18-2014, 08:14 AM
Wow, such hatred. How's your blood pressure, Suckdickfresh?

Make sure you take your medicine.

If you die, the whole world is going to hell. I mean, who else is going to carry the burden of saving the planet behind a keyboard? Or post vitriolic replies that have nothing to do with what was written in the first place?

We can't afford to lose you, you're way too valuable. Please take care of yourself. And keep on being tolerant!

Cheers! :beers:

http://modernreject.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/girl_crying.jpg

Anonymous
07-18-2014, 08:17 AM
Brilliant comeback!

The Master at work!

I am honoured to be in the presence of such genius. I am not worthy.

*bows*

Cheers! :beers:

Nickdfresh
07-18-2014, 08:18 AM
Thanks!

Anonymous
07-18-2014, 08:27 AM
You're welcome!

Let's see if I can play as well as you.

http://s28.postimg.org/jkwn0p2p9/angry_german_kid_7770.jpg

Suckadickfresh reads a post that slightly differs from the Universal Truth that is his opionion.

Was that alright?

Cheers! :beers:

VetteLS5
07-18-2014, 10:22 AM
How long ago did the conversation about who shot the missle go to shit?

Immediately after the original post. Isn't that the rule?

ELVIS
07-18-2014, 10:36 AM
http://www.sciencesurvivalblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/bag-over-head-behind-desk.jpg

Suckadickfresh reads a post that slightly differs from the Universal Truth that is his opionion.

Cheers! :beers:


Fixed...


:elvis:

Anonymous
07-18-2014, 10:36 AM
Immediately after the original post. Isn't that the rule?

Were I a filthy bastard, I would say that in this particular case, it's gone to shit IN the original post.

But I'm not & I don't want to aggravate the thread starter any further, so I'll refrain from such shenanigans.

:D

Cheers! :beers:

Nitro Express
07-18-2014, 12:41 PM
I'm neutral.

Anonymous
07-18-2014, 12:46 PM
I'm neutral.

Paedophile! BRONY!

Cheers! :beers:

Nitro Express
07-18-2014, 12:57 PM
You really wonder about a guy who constantly asks what a person's cock tastes like. People never ask unless they are interested.

ELVIS
07-18-2014, 01:01 PM
Back on topic...

Malaysian Airliner crash scene:

http://a.abcnews.com/images/International/gty_ukraine_plane_crash_wreckage_wheels_jc_140717_ 16x9_992.jpg

US Airliner crash scene (flight 93):

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/93crater.jpg


:elvis:

PETE'S BROTHER
07-18-2014, 01:03 PM
:clap:

ELVIS
07-18-2014, 01:04 PM
Again...

Ukraine:

http://wa3.www.skynews.com.au/content/dam/skynews/news/top-stories/2014/07/18/skynews_704418691.jpg/_jcr_content/renditions/skynews.img.600.372.jpeg;pva0b7a1eb0e5f8e5e

US:

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/a84b0ee4ac84.jpg

ELVIS
07-18-2014, 01:06 PM
Hey, maybe the red Dodge truck is really the mangled flight 93...

DONNIEP
07-18-2014, 01:09 PM
I'm not saying 93 didn't crash...but I've always had a problem with there being almost nothing left. Same with the Pentagon. Now I can understand that a lot of stuff gets blown into real little pieces. But the engines? Those fuckers are huge. And you sure didn't see any gigantic landing gear, like in the Ukraine picture.

vandeleur
07-18-2014, 01:11 PM
That's not on topic your just using this tragedy to gain weight to another argument .

DLR Bridge
07-18-2014, 01:11 PM
I'm with you on this, Elvis. Flight 93 looks to have been obliterated, rather than crash landed.

vandeleur
07-18-2014, 01:14 PM
On topic , one of the toon fans john alder had never missed a game since 1973.
Proper fan .

Anonymous
07-18-2014, 01:26 PM
That's not on topic your just using this tragedy to gain weight to another argument .

That's quite perspicacious of you, Vander. But unfortunately, E. is not the worse offender.

Just you wait until there's another shooting in a school, they'll all flock here with a massive hard on about how gun control/open carry could've avoided this tragedy.

Bookmark this post & refer to it when it happens.

Cheers! :beers:

ELVIS
07-18-2014, 01:30 PM
I'm with you on this, Elvis. Flight 93 looks to have been obliterated, rather than crash landed.

My theory is they blew a hole in the ground using either a missile or just conventional explosives and landed the plane elsewhere, if there actually was a flight 93...

Then built a nice propaganda memorial...

http://www.history.com/minisites/9-11/simulcast/flight-93/images/flight-93-memorial.jpg

DLR Bridge
07-18-2014, 01:34 PM
I'm not saying 93 didn't crash...but I've always had a problem with there being almost nothing left. Same with the Pentagon. Now I can understand that a lot of stuff gets blown into real little pieces. But the engines? Those fuckers are huge. And you sure didn't see any gigantic landing gear, like in the Ukraine picture.

I've recently started watching, but haven't finished yet, a movie on Netflix called 911-In Plane Site from '04. It really is quite an eye opener, especially regarding the Pentagon, so far. The images of the small hole in the Pentagon with absolutely no marks where wings would (should) have hit is a bit disconcerting.

ELVIS
07-18-2014, 01:37 PM
Not the wings, the engines made of titanium...

The engines would still be there...

FORD
07-18-2014, 01:42 PM
My theory is they blew a hole in the ground using either a missile or just conventional explosives and landed the plane elsewhere, if there actually was a flight 93...

Then built a nice propaganda memorial...

http://www.history.com/minisites/9-11/simulcast/flight-93/images/flight-93-memorial.jpg

Worse yet, they actually named a high school in Federal Way after the fictional character "Todd Beamer".

No, I'm not kidding........

DLR Bridge
07-18-2014, 01:44 PM
That's quite perspicacious of you, Vander. But unfortunately, E. is not the worse offender.

Just you wait until there's another shooting in a school, they'll all flock here with a massive hard on about how gun control/open carry could've avoided this tragedy.


Bookmark this post & refer to it when it happens.

Cheers! :beers:


The moment we all agree that we are all equal opportunity offenders is the moment that thread derailments will stop being derailed, and we can't... have... thaa wait, what in the fuck am I talking about? :biggrin:

Back on the main topic. Holy shit is that phone conversation and internet post pretty damning for those "separatists" and their lil' (big) helpers, Russia.

ELVIS
07-18-2014, 02:04 PM
Worse yet, they actually named a high school in Federal Way after the fictional character "Todd Beamer".

No, I'm not kidding........

Today's lesson...

Do not put ANYTHING past the corrupt US military industrial complex...

This country has become the scourge of the world because of it...

DONNIEP
07-18-2014, 02:11 PM
And let's not forget, it was reported that Flight 93 landed in Cleveland. Now that's not a conspiracy theory - that was actually reported in the news.

PETE'S BROTHER
07-18-2014, 02:12 PM
And let's not forget, it was reported that Flight 93 landed in Cleveland. Now that's not a conspiracy theory - that was actually reported in the news.

poor bastards were better off in the field...

ELVIS
07-18-2014, 02:13 PM
I know it was...

ELVIS
07-18-2014, 02:14 PM
poor bastards were better off in the field...

They're probably in the same mass grave as the passengers of the missing Malaysian plane...

FORD
07-18-2014, 02:20 PM
And let's not forget, it was reported that Flight 93 landed in Cleveland. Now that's not a conspiracy theory - that was actually reported in the news.

True. I read the article from the Cleveland news channel. Posted it here and elsewhere. Of course it's been completely scrubbed from the internet by now, as you can't have anything out there that contradicts the BCE's "official (bullshit) story". And a lot of the real time news reports of that day actually DO.

DONNIEP
07-18-2014, 02:26 PM
True. I read the article from the Cleveland news channel. Posted it here and elsewhere. Of course it's been completely scrubbed from the internet by now, as you can't have anything out there that contradicts the BCE's "official (bullshit) story". And a lot of the real time news reports of that day actually DO.

Yep. And that's why I find the whole topic so interesting. Hell, I was flying to Boston last November and just for the fun of it tried to make a phone call. Guess what? I couldn't.

ELVIS
07-18-2014, 02:46 PM
Imagine that...

FORD
07-18-2014, 02:48 PM
Well, of course not! You need the special Todd Beamer Babs Olson Unicorn Fairy Dust SuperPhone for that!

DONNIEP
07-18-2014, 02:53 PM
Have any of you guys tried making a call from the air within the past few years? I just wonder if anybody has been able to. I mean, those sumbitches were calling everybody except Pizza Hut.

FORD
07-18-2014, 02:54 PM
Er, back on topic though......

Thom Hartmann was just talking with Professor Steven Cohen, who is apparently an expert on all things Russian (Thom had him on a lot when this Ukranian clusterfuck started up a few months back). Cohen's heard some interesting "conspiracy theories" about what happened yesterday...

Supposedly, Pooty-Poot himself was in the air about the same time as the Malaysian plane. What if somebody was trying to take Vladdie out with a missile, and aimed at the wrong target by "mistake"?

Makes as much sense as anything else speculated so far, I guess........

FORD
07-18-2014, 02:57 PM
Have any of you guys tried making a call from the air within the past few years? I just wonder if anybody has been able to. I mean, those sumbitches were calling everybody except Pizza Hut.

Supposedly the airlines were trying to get mini-cell towers built into the planes themselves. I don't know if they were ever successful, but it seems to me there would be too much potential there for interfering with the systems in the cockpit. There's a reason they tell you to turn all that shit off when the planes are taking off & landing.

DONNIEP
07-18-2014, 03:06 PM
Supposedly the airlines were trying to get mini-cell towers built into the planes themselves. I don't know if they were ever successful, but it seems to me there would be too much potential there for interfering with the systems in the cockpit. There's a reason they tell you to turn all that shit off when the planes are taking off & landing.

I've got one of those mini cell towers right here in my home office. Works great, routes all the calls through the interwebz via some sort of black magic.

DONNIEP
07-18-2014, 03:06 PM
Er, back on topic though......

Thom Hartmann was just talking with Professor Steven Cohen, who is apparently an expert on all things Russian (Thom had him on a lot when this Ukranian clusterfuck started up a few months back). Cohen's heard some interesting "conspiracy theories" about what happened yesterday...

Supposedly, Pooty-Poot himself was in the air about the same time as the Malaysian plane. What if somebody was trying to take Vladdie out with a missile, and aimed at the wrong target by "mistake"?

Makes as much sense as anything else speculated so far, I guess........

Hmm...then wouldn't that mean the Ukrainians were the ones doing the shooting?

DLR Bridge
07-18-2014, 03:11 PM
Works great, routes all the calls through the interwebz via some sort of black magic.

Somebody get Jimmy Page on the line. He can talk us through the whole black magic - cell phone process.

DONNIEP
07-18-2014, 03:12 PM
Kristy has his number...

DLR Bridge
07-18-2014, 03:13 PM
Hmm...then wouldn't that mean the Ukrainians were the ones doing the shooting?

Yeah, I'm not buying that. That phone call is a smoker of a gun. Lock, stock and buk barrel.

FORD
07-18-2014, 03:19 PM
Well, as Nitro already mentioned last night, the key question to this type of event is "who benefits"??

And if you take this at face value and ask who benefits from blowing up a passenger plane full of Dutch & Malyasian people, it's hard to come up with any answer that makes any goddamn sense at all.

But if it was a botched hit meant for another plane - a "military" target (whether Putin was aboard or not) then it becomes a far more relevant question. Obviously the Ukranians have every reason to be pissed off at Putin. He's already taken part of their country, and seems to want at least half of the remainder, if not all of it. Perhaps somebody in the Ukraine military thought they might have better luck with a new Russian regime and get their country back?

The big flaw in this plan obviously, is that they did a piss poor job of identifying the plane they wanted to shoot at. I don't know what sort of plane Putin flies around in, but I'm guessing it is not a Boeing 777.

Seshmeister
07-18-2014, 03:25 PM
I'm with you on this, Elvis. Flight 93 looks to have been obliterated, rather than crash landed.

It wasn't crash landed it was crash crashed.

Usually in a crash you wouldn't have eg the pilot accelerating and pushing the nose down.

DLR Bridge
07-18-2014, 03:26 PM
Well, as Nitro already mentioned last night, the key question to this type of event is "who benefits"??

And if you take this at face value and ask who benefits from blowing up a passenger plane full of Dutch & Malyasian people, it's hard to come up with any answer that makes any goddamn sense at all.

But if it was a botched hit meant for another plane - a "military" target (whether Putin was aboard or not) then it becomes a far more relevant question. Obviously the Ukranians have every reason to be pissed off at Putin. He's already taken part of their country, and seems to want at least half of the remainder, if not all of it. Perhaps somebody in the Ukraine military thought they might have better luck with a new Russian regime and get their country back?

The big flaw in this plan obviously, is that they did a piss poor job of identifying the plane they wanted to shoot at. I don't know what sort of plane Putin flies around in, but I'm guessing it is not a Boeing 777.

I think you're Young Turks clip pretty much nails it. It was a fuck up of monumental proportions on the part of the separatists who may or may not (I think may) have gotten help from Pooty poot.

FORD
07-18-2014, 03:37 PM
They would have had to had help from Pooty Poot if it was them. This was a long range missile here, the type that come from those mobile tank launchers (like in the video Nick posted). Obviously the Russian military has this, and the Ukranian military as well (since their stuff was all USSR issued back in the day). But a half-assed group of "seperatists" wouldn't have this sort of hardware. Unless a government gave it to them. And the folks in Kiev ain't likely to do that. Which, by process of elimination.... leaves "special KGB delivery" the only option, if indeed the separatists did it.

But again, "who benefits", in that scenario. Surely they wouldn't be trying to take Vladdie out? And I don't see why they would want to kill a bunch of civilans from other countries.

DONNIEP
07-18-2014, 03:39 PM
If I'm not mistaken, it was reported that the separatists "captured" this very type of launcher. At least that's what I think I heard about 37 times on CNN yesterday.

FORD
07-18-2014, 03:43 PM
Considering the mess they made out of the LAST Malaysian airliner story, I think I will be avoiding CNN coverage of this one.

Maybe CNN International, if I can find a decent stream on XBMC, but that's as far as I go.

DONNIEP
07-18-2014, 03:45 PM
Ah, it was just what I had on in the background while I was working. This is interesting: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696847/They-shouldnt-f-g-flying-There-war-going-Ukraine-intelligence-officials-release-phone-calls-claim-PROVES-Russia-shot-Flight-MH17.html

ELVIS
07-18-2014, 04:03 PM
Makes as much sense as anything else speculated so far, I guess........

I want to know what prompted the pilot to fly over a known war zone where planes were recently shot down...

ELVIS
07-18-2014, 04:05 PM
I think I will be avoiding CNN coverage of this one.

Maybe CNN International, if I can find a decent stream on XBMC, but that's as far as I go.

You really think there's a difference between CNN and CNN international ??

It's a western propaganda network not unlike ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX or the BBC...

DLR Bridge
07-18-2014, 04:09 PM
But again, "who benefits", in that scenario. Surely they wouldn't be trying to take Vladdie out? And I don't see why they would want to kill a bunch of civilans from other countries.

Could be a game of dirty pool (or poot). Perhaps, he's thinking that if he were able to convince everyone that the Ukranians did it, it would throw the heat and hate off of him and onto them. A long shot, horribly stupid idea, but hey, we're talking about the guy who likes to be photographed shirtless riding a horse.

vandeleur
07-18-2014, 04:12 PM
It's still a flight path for many major airlines, the no fly zone only extends to 30, 000 feet . Commercial flights are higher than that . Though British airways doesn't fly over that part of Ukraine .

Pretty counter intuitive to fly commercial airlines over war zones to put it mildly .

ELVIS
07-18-2014, 04:13 PM
I'd be looking at the Obomba administration, the CIA and George Soros before I blame Putin...

This is like blaming 911 on Putin...

DONNIEP
07-18-2014, 04:18 PM
but hey, we're talking about the guy who likes to be photographed shirtless riding a horse.

Hell yeah, that's what you can do when you run a country!

DLR Bridge
07-18-2014, 04:19 PM
I'd be looking at the Obomba administration, the CIA and George Soros before I blame Putin...

This is like blaming 911 on Putin...

Not even close.

vandeleur
07-18-2014, 04:20 PM
I'd be looking at the Obomba administration, the CIA and George Soros before I blame Putin...

This is like blaming 911 on Putin...

Rather than untrained jumpy jacks in control of high grade weapons .

DONNIEP
07-18-2014, 04:23 PM
Rather than untrained jumpy jacks in control of high grade weapons .

Exactly. You got a bunch of pumped up rebels that got hold of a launcher and said "What's the point in having this fucker if we don't use it??" So they think they see a military transport plane, cause they're all juiced up on cheap Ukrainian vodka and somebody says "Shoot that sumbitch!"

PETE'S BROTHER
07-18-2014, 04:24 PM
Exactly. You got a bunch of pumped up rebels that got hold of a launcher and said "What's the point in having this fucker if we don't use it??" So they think they see a military transport plane, cause they're all juiced up on cheap Ukrainian vodka and somebody says "Shoot that sumbitch!"

it's like you've been to my house...

DONNIEP
07-18-2014, 04:25 PM
it's like you've been to my house...

Just peeping in the windows from time to time.

PETE'S BROTHER
07-18-2014, 04:27 PM
Just peeping in the windows from time to time.

:thumb:

PETE'S BROTHER
07-18-2014, 04:37 PM
The pro-rebel website Russkaya Vesna on Friday quoted Igor Girkin as saying he was told by people at the crash site that "a significant number of the bodies weren't fresh," adding that he was told they were drained of blood and reeked of decomposition.

DLR Bridge
07-18-2014, 04:42 PM
Was the missing plane a 777?

vandeleur
07-18-2014, 04:42 PM
As supposed to witnesses seeing bodies falling from the sky on the bbc .

vandeleur
07-18-2014, 04:50 PM
This isn't going to be some weird conspiracy . If it wasn't this plane it would be one of the dozens of others who flew over there everyday to the Far East . It's a major flight path .

It's massive news in Newcastle , of of the two toon fans is a bit of celeb for seeing Newcastle all over the world . He was going to watch them on an overseas tour . Obviously lol .

This is on first look a passenger plane above some fucking morons with hardware . Putin should come clean and go fuck , that wasn't meant to happen we will bring these guys to justice .
But both sides will play the blame deny game .

vandeleur
07-18-2014, 04:58 PM
eBay :

One Buk rocket launcher , hardly used . Looking for quick discreet sale

Make me an offer .

Vlad. Moscow .

PETE'S BROTHER
07-18-2014, 04:59 PM
eBay :

One Buk rocket launcher , hardly used . Looking for quick discreet sale

Make me an offer .

Vlad. Moscow .

no link? :biggrin:

vandeleur
07-18-2014, 05:00 PM
no link? :biggrin:

Hahaha

DONNIEP
07-18-2014, 05:01 PM
The pro-rebel website Russkaya Vesna on Friday quoted Igor Girkin as saying he was told by people at the crash site that "a significant number of the bodies weren't fresh," adding that he was told they were drained of blood and reeked of decomposition.

So you got a guy named Igor saying the bodies were drained of blood...Nothing odd about that.

http://s29.postimg.org/5fotd0o87/igor_frankenstein.jpg

DONNIEP
07-18-2014, 05:01 PM
eBay :

One Buk rocket launcher , hardly used . Looking for quick discreet sale

Make me an offer .

Vlad. Moscow .

I'd buy that in a minute and drive it to the Walmart and to Church!

PETE'S BROTHER
07-18-2014, 05:02 PM
So you got a guy named Igor saying the bodies were drained of blood...Nothing odd about that.

http://s29.postimg.org/5fotd0o87/igor_frankenstein.jpg

abby...something

Nickdfresh
07-18-2014, 05:42 PM
So you got a guy named Igor saying the bodies were drained of blood...Nothing odd about that.

http://s29.postimg.org/5fotd0o87/igor_frankenstein.jpg

Marty. Feldman. Is. God.

Nickdfresh
07-18-2014, 05:45 PM
Disturbed individual you are an intractable social ill.

I love it when you talk dirty to me :D

Nickdfresh
07-18-2014, 05:46 PM
You're welcome!

Let's see if I can play as well as you.

http://s28.postimg.org/jkwn0p2p9/angry_german_kid_7770.jpg

Suckadickfresh reads a post that slightly differs from the Universal Truth that is his opionion.

Was that alright?

Cheers! :beers:

LOL It's almost midnight there and you're still on the internet crying and complaining. :D HA! How's that life going?

PETE'S BROTHER
07-18-2014, 05:48 PM
Marty. Feldman. Is. God.

was...

Nickdfresh
07-18-2014, 05:49 PM
You really wonder about a guy who constantly asks what a person's cock tastes like. People never ask unless they are interested.

You see Penislicker, NyQuil doesn't need your help. That was actually a good zinger. Take notes if you're not too drunk and caked in your own flith to do so... :D

VetteLS5
07-18-2014, 05:50 PM
I want to know what prompted the pilot to fly over a known war zone where planes were recently shot down...

Sense of adventure?

Nickdfresh
07-18-2014, 05:50 PM
was...

IS! He's joined him in the holy trinity...

Nickdfresh
07-18-2014, 05:51 PM
The pro-rebel website Russkaya Vesna on Friday quoted Igor Girkin as saying he was told by people at the crash site that "a significant number of the bodies weren't fresh," adding that he was told they were drained of blood and reeked of decomposition.

And Igor only eats the freshest babies...

VetteLS5
07-18-2014, 05:52 PM
The pro-rebel website Russkaya Vesna on Friday quoted Igor Girkin as saying he was told by people at the crash site that "a significant number of the bodies weren't fresh," adding that he was told they were drained of blood and reeked of decomposition.

Vampire hijack?

VetteLS5
07-18-2014, 05:53 PM
no link? :biggrin:

Removed. Personal info.

Nickdfresh
07-18-2014, 05:53 PM
As supposed to witnesses seeing bodies falling from the sky on the bbc .

On CNN here they initially showed unedited footage of the crash that included torsos with out any limbs. They soon blotted them out...

DONNIEP
07-18-2014, 05:54 PM
Vampire hijack?

That's not as far fetched as it sounds. Hell, my kid's middle school is full of kids who are convinced they're vampires. Buncha fucking retards...

VetteLS5
07-18-2014, 05:55 PM
LOL It's almost midnight there and you're still on the internet crying and complaining. :D HA! How's that life going?

Keeping track of the timezone I see? Maybe you should get a virtual-room and hug it out?

PETE'S BROTHER
07-18-2014, 05:59 PM
Sense of adventure?

doing his job?

Nickdfresh
07-18-2014, 06:00 PM
Not even close.

Putin's white, so of course he didn't do it. (Just don't tell Elvis he's a slav!)...

Anonymous
07-18-2014, 06:00 PM
Keeping track of the timezone I see? Maybe you should get a virtual-room and hug it out?

Shhh, don't point out the obsession & paranoia.

Cheers! :beers:

Nickdfresh
07-18-2014, 06:01 PM
Keeping track of the timezone I see? Maybe you should get a virtual-room and hug it out?

Ugh. No thanks. But maybe you have difficulty adding 6 onto the current time, but it's not that hard actually...

Nickdfresh
07-18-2014, 06:02 PM
Shhh, don't point out the obsession & paranoia.

Cheers! :beers:

Says the guy who keeps posting to me and is online on a Friday night. I mean, I am too sometimes admittedly. But mostly not :)

DONNIEP
07-18-2014, 06:03 PM
Ugh. No thanks. But maybe you have difficulty adding 6 onto the current time, but it's not that hard actually...

I have a watch that does that for me. But then I have to subtract 12 from whatever number it's pointing at and I get all confused.

Anonymous
07-18-2014, 06:03 PM
Says the guy who keeps posting to me and is online on a Friday night. I mean, I am too sometimes admittedly. But mostly not :)

I'm not gonna touch that one. It's brilliant in it's own stupidity. :lol:

Cheers! :beers:

Anonymous
07-18-2014, 06:05 PM
I have a watch that does that for me. But then I have to subtract 12 from whatever number it's pointing at and I get all confused.

What? You have a... watch? Watch what? What the hell are you talking about?

Cheers! :beers:

VetteLS5
07-18-2014, 06:05 PM
doing his job?

If so, the Malaysians are even bigger doofi (yes, that is the plural of "doofus") than originally thought. One would think #1 on the checklist might read "avoid airspace where drunken (allegedly) nationalists just bought a SAM launcher at the local flea market".

Anonymous
07-18-2014, 06:06 PM
If so, the Malaysians are even bigger doofi (yes, that is the plural of "doofus") than originally thought. One would think #1 on the checklist might read "avoid airspace where drunken (allegedly) nationalists just bought a SAM launcher at the local flea market".

So, no flights over the United States?

Cheers! :beers:

VetteLS5
07-18-2014, 06:07 PM
Ugh. No thanks. But maybe you have difficulty adding 6 onto the current time, but it's not that hard actually...

Oooohhhh burn.

ELVIS
07-18-2014, 06:12 PM
Oooohhhh burn.

I told you not to touch Krusty...

vandeleur
07-18-2014, 06:13 PM
Like I said ,check the internet the only airline not flying over Eastern Ukraine is British airways .
It is a major flight path from skipol to the Far East . Crazy but true .

VetteLS5
07-18-2014, 06:15 PM
So, no flights over the United States?

This discerning gentleman is our rocket brigade commander. Got a problem with that, you fat, man-wrestling foreigner? *

11968

*Nick, will you send me some cred for this?

VetteLS5
07-18-2014, 06:16 PM
Like I said ,check the internet the only airline not flying over Eastern Ukraine is British airways .
It is a major flight path from skipol to the Far East . Crazy but true .

Not to go with the "if it's on the internet it must be true", but US airlines have also been avoiding that flightpath.

vandeleur
07-18-2014, 06:22 PM
Nah this was like normal bbc news , it mentioned the airlines and it was fucking hell . But in its defence name the countries you fly over from holland to the Far East for 5 points .

Yeah , plus most shit can't hit passenger planes cruising . A guy explained it on tv it , hey who knows what the fuck these fuck wits are running around with .

Nickdfresh
07-18-2014, 06:25 PM
I have a watch that does that for me. But then I have to subtract 12 from whatever number it's pointing at and I get all confused.

I like military time, but sort of hated being in the military :D

Nickdfresh
07-18-2014, 06:27 PM
This discerning gentleman is our rocket brigade commander. Got a problem with that, you fat, man-wrestling foreigner? *

11968

*Nick, will you send me some cred for this?

What kind of weapon is that? A converted aircraft mount (.50 cal.)? Seriously I wanna know...

Anonymous
07-18-2014, 06:27 PM
This discerning gentleman is our rocket brigade commander. Got a problem with that, you fat, man-wrestling foreigner? *

11968

*Nick, will you send me some cred for this?

No problem at all.

Why, just by looking at the serious, no nonsense, professional military pose of the gentleman, I feel safer already. And I don't even live there.

Cheers! :beers:

VetteLS5
07-18-2014, 06:42 PM
What kind of weapon is that? A converted aircraft mount (.50 cal.)? Seriously I wanna know...

:biggrin: Googled "redneck rocket launcher", and viola... there you go.

Many thanks for the cred!

VetteLS5
07-18-2014, 06:44 PM
But in its defence name the countries you fly over from holland to the Far East for 5 points .

Several?