The Government Is Cracking Down on School Bake Sales

[ELVIS]

National Journal (http://www.nationaljournal.com/domesticpolicy/the-government-is-cracking-down-on-school-bake-sales-20140725)

Barely a month after federal regulations for school cafeterias kicked in, states are already pushing back.

Specifically, they're fighting nutrition standards that would considerably alter one of the most sacred rituals of the American public school system: bake sales.

http://earloftaint.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/food-police.jpg?w=630&h=447

Twelve states have established their own policies to circumvent regulations in the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act of 2010 that apply to "competitive snacks," or any foods and beverages sold to students on school grounds that are not part of the Agriculture Department's school meal programs, according to the National Association of State Boards of Education. Competitive snacks appear in vending machines, school stores, and food and beverages, including items sold at bake sales.

Georgia is the latest state to announce an exemption to the federal regulations, which became effective July 1 for thousands of public schools across the country. Its rule would allow 30 food-related fundraising days per school year that wouldn't meet the new healthy nutritional standards, which call for more healthy options and less junk food that could contribute to the nation's child-obesity problem.

The pushback is not about students' taste buds, but their wallets. Food fundraisers are a crucial source of revenue for schools, state education officials say. "Tough economic times have translated into fewer resources and these fundraisers allow our schools to raise a considerable amount of money for very worthwhile education programs," the Georgia Department of Education wrote in a recent press release. "While we are concerned about the obesity epidemic, limiting food-and-beverage fundraisers at schools and school-related events is not the solution to solving it."


:elvis:

[fraroc]

We have this wonderful thing in this country called "civil disobedience"....Hell, it caused the Jim Crow laws to be overturned.

[DONNIEP]

We have this wonderful thing in this country called "civil disobedience"....Hell, it caused the Jim Crow laws to be overturned.

I do believe "civil disobedience" has been replaced with "domestic terrorist"...

[Nitro Express]

We have this wonderful thing in this country called "civil disobedience"....Hell, it caused the Jim Crow laws to be overturned.

We have this thing called "We The People". The citizens own the country. The politicians are hired help. We need to remind them of that.

[binnie]

Are you going to tell us that nutrition is a conspiracy, now? That expressing an interest in the health of children is a bad thing?

[Seshmeister]

You can take my donuts from my cold, dead hands... :D


http://bizgovsoc9.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/childhood-us-obesity-chart.png

[vandeleur]

You can take my donuts from my cold, dead hands... :D


http://bizgovsoc9.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/childhood-us-obesity-chart.png

Most Americans are gonna see that graph and go yum those colours remind me of cake :D

[ELVIS]

Are you going to tell us that nutrition is a conspiracy, now? That expressing an interest in the health of children is a bad thing?

The government is not our nanny...

We are the government...

WE THE PEOPLE

[binnie]

The government is not our nanny...

We are the government...

WE THE PEOPLE

It sounds great, but what if 'the people' come up short in certain areas. Let's say - for arguments sake - that the nutritional value of food served in schools is poor and has been for years. The school hasn't done anything about it, and nor have the parents. So, there are two options:

1) allow things to carry on as normal (kids get poor food and risk becoming overweight/unhealthy)

2) some form of authority regulates these things to ensure that children's health improves.

Is 2 really such a bad option? Or would you prefer 1 just to prove the point that 'we don't need to government'?

I guess what I'm struggling to understand is why endeavouring to improve children's health is a bad thing.

[binnie]

You can take my donuts from my cold, dead hands... :D


http://bizgovsoc9.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/childhood-us-obesity-chart.png

It's pretty horrifying, isn't it? I wonder how far the UK is behind? Not as far as we'd like......

[Seshmeister]

Yeah we're nearly as bad.

We're always more like the US than Europe when it comes to all the bad shit like fat, teenage pregnancy, defence spending, Piers Morgan...

[Seshmeister]

The government is not our nanny...

We are the government...

WE THE FATTIES

fixed... :)

[Kristy]

The government is not our nanny...

We are the government...

WE THE PEOPLE

Yeah, yeah thanks Alex.

[DONNIEP]

Ah, I don't have any problem at all with schools serving healthier choices for meals. But trying to ban bake sales?? Yeah, taking away a few homemade brownies and slices of cake is really gonna make a huge difference over the course of a school year...

[Kristy]

I guess what I'm struggling to understand is why endeavoring to improve children's health is a bad thing.

Problem with that is whom is doing the improving. If you look at the social structure and status quo of America of the past 30 to 40 years the main reason why so many Americans became so fucking F A T is not such out of laziness but rather convenience. Americans love their greasy, high-caloric as in sugar) and high-carbohydrate food prepared by others and never themselves. The (US) Government doesn't give a a shit about American laziness and/or convenience as they do in finding a way to tax those little F A T shits. So the burden of feeding them falls or more in the way of a kismet to the food industry who process nutrition by chemicalyzing (is that even a word?) it to the point of addiction, stripping it of proper essential nutrients and packing sugar to make it look sexy.

No wonder last year when I had to drive by a local elementary school on the way home due to the roads being washed out to floods was I not surprised that over 60% of the children I saw getting out in the afternoon were not just "obese" they were downright fucking F A T. What was even more sad was how F A T T E R the parents were picking their abomination of children up in minivans instead of making them walk home. Don't call for an argument the parents did this is because some boogeyman would kidnapped and traffic their child because no one would ever want to molest a F A T kid. Americans just love their conveniences that breeds ignorance and stupidly. I mean, how else do shows like Big Bang Theory thrive?

And Trollvis, in his usual gullibility as a result of ignorance, deception, oppression, and weakness by those fucking conspiracy fucks (who are also F A T) that he listens to and forms no opinion of his own is right: it is not government who is to be responsible for the health of its children but should be held reprehensible for letting this go on for so long by allowing cocksuckers like Monsanto and Con Agra decide on what the American populace eats.

Until this starts to become a national health crisis - which it will be in the next 8 to 12 years - with more children being diagnosed by the age of 10 with juvenile onset diabetes and other health related problems due to the shit it consumes only then will the be any change in convenience but I would not hold my breath that there will be a substantial impact. It's just sad to see how many kids are this fucking grossly F A T when there is really no reason for them to be.

[Kristy]

To the American youth of 2013:
http://images.jagran.com/obese-kids-s-30-3-2013.jpg

Fuck you. And fuck your parents.

[DONNIEP]

If my kid looked like that I wouldn't take her out in public. Do they still have those Fat Camps you can send your kids to? Cause that fucker needs to catch the next bus.

[binnie]

I think that fucker needs to WALK :D

[Kristy]

He'll be fucking dead via stroke by the time he is 15.

[Kristy]

Titus is right (start at @1:05-ish) - especially about men. When did men stop being men?

[DONNIEP]

The sad thing is food stamps cover every single thing he's eating. I see people swiping that EBT card almost every time I go grocery shopping and that's the kind of shit they buy, overwhelmingly junk food and anybody that says "No they don't" can suck my balls. Gummy snacks, 13 bottles of orange soda, potato chips out the ass, ice cream, you name it. Hell, I was in line last month behind this woman about my age and her teenage daughter who had her 2 little kids with her. And that was pretty much all they bought. And some cheap steaks. And honest to God, the teenage daughter says "Oh we forgot to get cereal" and her mother says "Hell, they can eat ice cream for breakfast." And that's what I'm paying for, ice cream for fucking breakfast...

[Kristy]

The sad thing is food stamps cover every single thing he's eating. I see people swiping that EBT card almost every time I go grocery shopping and that's the kind of shit they buy, overwhelmingly junk food and anybody that says "No they don't" can suck my balls.

No, you can suck my balls. How many times have I told you to quit shopping at Walmart? Isn't there anything slightly more upscale where you live, like the Dollar Tree?

[DONNIEP]

No, you can suck my balls. How many times have I told you to quit shopping at Walmart? Isn't there anything slightly more upscale where you live, like the Dollar Tree?

Actually, and don't tell anybody this, I do most of my grocery shopping at Ingles, which is waayyyy more upscale. But for some reason, they allow these same people to shop there too.

[Kristy]

Oh, you mean poor people? Makes me wonder how many times you and Trollvis have crossed paths there.

[DONNIEP]

Oh, you mean poor people? Makes me wonder how many times you and Trollvis have crossed paths there.

Elvis shopping for food in a grocery store? Hahahahahahaah! That'll be the day...

[vandeleur]

He'll be fucking dead via stroke by the time he is 15.

Sad thing is he won't , at 15 he will sit on an Internet forum all day and talk bullshit :D

[Kristy]

Elvis yes, Trollvis, no.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/510%2BtJEplRL._SY300_.jpg

[Kristy]

Sad thing is he won't , at 15 he will sit on an Internet forum all day and talk bullshit :D

No idea on what you could be talking about. All clicks and pops to me.

[vandeleur]

He has a look of old rock Hudson in that pic .

[DONNIEP]

Sad thing is he won't , at 15 he will sit on an Internet forum all day and talk bullshit :D

Nah, kids these days do fagbook, not message boards. Their little sugar soaked minds can't keep up with a conversation that might last for days, or years.

[Kristy]

He has a look of old rock Hudson in that pic .

Only without the AIDS and heavy on the Photoshop.

[vandeleur]

Nah, kids these days do fagbook, not message boards. Their little sugar soaked minds can't keep up with a conversation that might last for days, or years.

What were we talking about :biggrin:

[DONNIEP]

What were we talking about :biggrin:

Rock Hudson and skittles.

[binnie]

Sad thing is he won't , at 15 he will sit on an Internet forum all day and talk bullshit :D

If I was 15 now, I certainly wouldn't be using the interweb to spend my time talking bullshit. I think I'd be doing some practical research on repetitive strain injury :D

[vandeleur]

If I was 15 now, I certainly wouldn't be using the interweb to spend my time talking bullshit. I think I'd be doing some practical research on repetitive strain injury :D

So same old same old then binnie :)

[binnie]

So same old same old then binnie :)

.....sorry for the slow reply.......I am typing with one hand...... :D

[vandeleur]

Hahaha

[Nitro Express]

Rock Hudson and skittles.

Rock Hudson, an enema bag, diet Coke and Mentos.

[Nitro Express]

To the American youth of 2013:
http://images.jagran.com/obese-kids-s-30-3-2013.jpg

Fuck you. And fuck your parents.

Lot's of stored calories. You could make a lot of Soylent Green out of that fat kid.



The goddamned world is just degrading into a damn Charlton Heston movie ending!



Cheer up. At least all the fat people are gone.

[Angel]

Don't know if it's the same down there, but a big issue here is the location of the grocery stores. If it's in a poorer neighbourhood, processed shit is cheap and fresh produce and meat is way overpriced. I always shop in the more upscale neighbourhoods for that reason...

[vandeleur]

That's how I knew the walking dead was an American fantasy .
The zombies wernt fat and they could walk 100 yards without sitting down :)

The zombies would be like t-Rex , unable to grab you cos their arms couldn't get passed their bellies .

The rolly polly dead doesn't have the same ring :)

[vandeleur]

The wobbling dead :D

[Nitro Express]

Don't know if it's the same down there, but a big issue here is the location of the grocery stores. If it's in a poorer neighbourhood, processed shit is cheap and fresh produce and meat is way overpriced. I always shop in the more upscale neighbourhoods for that reason...

http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/slideshow?articleId=USRTXT3DK#a=1

24% of the Canadian population is obese. 34% of the US population is obese. The problem is lifestyle. People drive everywhere. Most people work sitting down at a desk. They eat like lumberjacks while doing nothing. The reason the previous generations were thinner is they did more physical work. We outsourced our work or have immigrants do the physical stuff at home while we stuff our face sitting at a computer. Even if you don't have a job the welfare is generous and you still can get fat.

[Nitro Express]

That's how I knew the walking dead was an American fantasy .
The zombies wernt fat and they could walk 100 yards without sitting down :)

The zombies would be like t-Rex , unable to grab you cos their arms couldn't get passed their bellies .

The rolly polly dead doesn't have the same ring :)

25% of the UK population are obese. You guys can join the fat zombie fun.

[vandeleur]

25% of the UK population are obese. You guys can join the fat zombie fun.

Nitro don't take it personal , we have fat people here to that is correct . We call them
American tourists :D

[DONNIEP]

Nitro don't take it personal , we have fat people here to that is correct . We call them
American tourists :D

Racist!!

[Nitro Express]

Nitro don't take it personal , we have fat people here to that is correct . We call them
American tourists :D

I don't give a fuck. I'm 4% body fat right now. It's hard to rock climb when you are 350 pounds.

[vandeleur]

Racist!!

It's fatist , we have fat people here .they appear in night club taxi ranks about closing time .
They are called 10 to 2ers. You see them at last orders at 1.50 am and think what the fuck :)

[DONNIEP]

Kristy had a name for it...what the hell was it...it wasn't Fatism...

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Kristy had a name for it...what the hell was it...it wasn't Fatism...

F A T ism?

[DONNIEP]

F A T ism?

Yeah, maybe that was it.

[ELVIS]

fixed... :)

That's because the government already controls what most retards eat...

And do...

[ELVIS]

They are called 10 to 2ers. You see them at last orders at 1.50 am and think what the fuck :)

Leave poor Sesh alone...;)

[twonabomber]

He'll be fucking dead via stroke by the time he is 15.

He's probably older than 15 by now. Who has a CRT TV like that any more?

[ELVIS]

I'm 4% body fat right now. It's hard to rock climb when you are 350 pounds.

You've lost weight, Commander ??

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3214/3148403764_5ace287b1d.jpg


:biggrin:

[ELVIS]

Who has a CRT TV like that any more?

softcock69, jfail, cadaverdouche and Ace Zirconium ??

[ELVIS]

Did I win ??


:elvis:

[twonabomber]

You mighta!

[FORD]

softcock69, jfail, cadaverdouche and Ace Zirconium ??

Why would Ace need a new TV? He's supposedly blind, so he wouldn't need a clear picture.

They used to have radios that would pickup sound from the VHF/UHF TV bands, but I'm sure those were rendered useless by the digital transmission conversion.

For the record, I still have two CRT TVs. They aren't plugged in, of course, but it's not like I could sell the more recent of the two, and I just hate to part with the 13" Sony from the mid 80s, because it's a rare model, and theoretically probably worth more than I paid for it (and it wasn't cheap either) if anybody actually collects that sort of thing.

[Angel]

http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/slideshow?articleId=USRTXT3DK#a=1

24% of the Canadian population is obese. 34% of the US population is obese. The problem is lifestyle. People drive everywhere. Most people work sitting down at a desk. They eat like lumberjacks while doing nothing. The reason the previous generations were thinner is they did more physical work. We outsourced our work or have immigrants do the physical stuff at home while we stuff our face sitting at a computer. Even if you don't have a job the welfare is generous and you still can get fat.
That's why I stopped driving to school and just eat fruit for lunch. Gained 40 pounds when I moved to this non-bicycle friendly city. My mom recently moved here and has commented numerous times how fat people are here compared to the west coast.

[VetteLS5]

The rolly polly dead doesn't have the same ring :)

Or the same success rate.

[Nitro Express]

That's why I stopped driving to school and just eat fruit for lunch. Gained 40 pounds when I moved to this non-bicycle friendly city. My mom recently moved here and has commented numerous times how fat people are here compared to the west coast.

If you want to get in shape on a busy schedule do kettle bell workouts. They don't take much time and you get weight lifting and cardio workouts at the same time. Start doing some basic swings at first starting with a 10 or 15 pound kettle bell.

[Seshmeister]

Leave poor Sesh alone...;)

I thought you had been stalking me, apparently not?

Good.

[Seshmeister]

Why would Ace need a new TV? He's supposedly blind, so he wouldn't need a clear picture.
.

I don't believe he is blind.

Deaf though I would... :D

[Seshmeister]

Nitro don't take it personal , we have fat people here to that is correct . We call them
American tourists :D

Funny but the UK or Canada feeling good about the difference between 35% fat folk compared to 28% or whatever is pretty weak.

I have a completely non science based theory that the main difference on average between our shitty diet and the even shittier diet in the US is the extra insanity of bad US breakfasts but I could be wrong.

Or maybe it's the corn syrup thing. Either way we're very much fucked too.

[vandeleur]

You know what , I was going to go into stats and figures on economic forces on diet . But In truth I was just poking the bear :)

[Nitro Express]

Funny but the UK or Canada feeling good about the difference between 35% fat folk compared to 28% or whatever is pretty weak.

I have a completely non science based theory that the main difference on average between our shitty diet and the even shittier diet in the US is the extra insanity of bad US breakfasts but I could be wrong.

Or maybe it's the corn syrup thing. Either way we're very much fucked too.

I really don't know what a US breakfast is. Not everyone eats the same thing here. In fact a marketing executive for Heinz told me they were having a hell of a time trying to pin down people's eating habits here because there are so many choices now. People really don't eat American food here so to speak. They eat all kinds of stuff. You might have sushi for one meal and Tex-Mex food the next. I guess buffalo is American. The natives ate it and the animal is native to the US. A bison burger is pretty American but pretty healthy too. Bison is a lean meat.

[lesfunk]

This thread has made me hungry

[vandeleur]

This thread has made me hungry

For buffalo ?

[Nitro Express]

You know what , I was going to go into stats and figures on economic forces on diet . But In truth I was just poking the bear :)

If I look at my parents generation is was meat and potatoes. Probably similar over there. Sure people eat a more diverse range of stuff now. Our grandparents wouldn't eat sushi. It would freak them out. But look at what people did for a living. In the past more people were on farms in the US. People did more physical work and they walked more. The stories of walking both ways up hill to school in the snow are somewhat true.

I would say physical activity is way down. That's the culprit I see. Maybe consuming more carbohydrates. People drink a lot more soda pop and eat more candy now than they used to.

[DONNIEP]

I have a completely non science based theory that the main difference on average between our shitty diet and the even shittier diet in the US is the extra insanity of bad US breakfasts but I could be wrong.

Or maybe it's the corn syrup thing. Either way we're very much fucked too.

You mean like big stacks of pancakes covered in all kinds of stuff? I hate that crap.

Down here, a big home cooked breakfast is typically eggs, bacon or sausage, biscuits and homemade gravy. I typically have oatmeal for breakfast or a homemade breakfast burrito.

[DONNIEP]

I would say physical activity is way down. That's the culprit I see. Maybe consuming more carbohydrates. People drink a lot more soda pop and eat more candy now than they used to.

I hate candy and I only drink diet soda. But I drink mostly water. Not for any particular reason other than I like water.

[Nitro Express]

For buffalo ?

You either like it or hate it. Most people over cook it. It's fabulous if you mix it 50/50 with beef and make a beefalo burger.

[vandeleur]

Gravy for breakfast ... ya savage

[Nitro Express]

I hate candy and I only drink diet soda. But I drink mostly water. Not for any particular reason other than I like water.

See. That's why you are the lean and mean playboy you are.

[DONNIEP]

You either like it or hate it. Most people over cook it. It's fabulous if you mix it 50/50 with beef and make a beefalo burger.

There are several places around here that serve buffalo burgers. I like em.

[Seshmeister]

You mean like big stacks of pancakes covered in all kinds of stuff? I hate that crap.



Yeah.

Of course you can't generalize but that is a bit unique to the US I think.

[Nitro Express]

There are several places around here that serve buffalo burgers. I like em.

More people are raising bison. Less heart disease. It used to be the only place you could get a buffalo burger was in cafes on indian reservations. The Shoshone always raised buffalo and you could go in to this hole in the wall cafe and get a buffalo burger. They also had the best french fries. I always used to stop there if I was going down I-15 and had time.

[vandeleur]

I would try a buffalo burger , just to say I had tried it.

[Seshmeister]

If I look at my parents generation is was meat and potatoes. Probably similar over there. Sure people eat a more diverse range of stuff now. Our grandparents wouldn't eat sushi. It would freak them out. But look at what people did for a living. In the past more people were on farms in the US. People did more physical work and they walked more. The stories of walking both ways up hill to school in the snow are somewhat true.

I would say physical activity is way down. That's the culprit I see. Maybe consuming more carbohydrates. People drink a lot more soda pop and eat more candy now than they used to.

I agree the main thing is less activity for kids and and adults.

Especially kids and to be fair, video games and porn were in comparison completely shit in our time and we still spent enough time on them.

Even if they have an exercise hobby you still need to keep an eye on their calories without fucking them up.

[ELVIS]

If you want to get in shape on a busy schedule do kettle bell workouts. They don't take much time and you get weight lifting and cardio workouts at the same time. Start doing some basic swings at first starting with a 10 or 15 pound kettle bell.

I do all of that before I wake up in the morning...

[Seshmeister]

I would try a buffalo burger , just to say I had tried it.

I ate an ostrich once.

It wasn't great.

[vandeleur]

It's gonna be harder for kids to not be little pugsly's. We used to play outside until you were in trouble and had to go home . Just kicking a ball round a field . My kids only talk to their mates on xbox or facetime.
I have made them both do sports outside of school , both do TKD so hopefully they will keep it up through adulthood.

[Nitro Express]

Yeah.

Of course you can't generalize but that is a bit unique to the US I think.

I rarely eat the big pancake breakfast. I don't eat much breakfast at all. Mostly fruit, yogurt, and a bagel.

[ELVIS]

Buffalo burgers are awesome...

Similar to a regular burger, just a bit drier in some cases...

[vandeleur]

I ate an ostrich once.

It wasn't great.


Ive seen it on a menu but I think I bottled it ( read wasnt pissed enough)

[Seshmeister]

I do all of that before I wake up in the morning...

That's a brilliant idea.

Go for a 5 mile run before you wake up.

You should sell that on InfoWars to the other sheep as a workout program.

[Seshmeister]

Ive seen it on a menu but I think I bottled it ( read wasnt pissed enough)

Poof! :)

[ELVIS]

I thought you had been stalking me, apparently not?

Good.

Don't flatter yourself...

[ELVIS]

That's a brilliant idea.

Go for a 5 mile run before you wake up.

You should sell that on InfoWars to the other sheep as a workout program.

Think they'd believe it ??

[vandeleur]

Poof! :)

Which bit you referring to , the bottling it or not being pissed :)

[ELVIS]

I ate an ostrich once.

It wasn't great.

Emu meat is good...

[Nitro Express]

It's gonna be harder for kids to not be little pugsly's. We used to play outside until you were in trouble and had to go home . Just kicking a ball round a field . My kids only talk to their mates on xbox or facetime.
I have made them both do sports outside of school , both do TKD so hopefully they will keep it up through adulthood.

We used to play this game called pom pom while waiting for the school bus. There was this grass field and you had kids on both sides of it and someone would yell pom pom! You tried to get to the other side without getting tackled. Whoever got a member of their team to the other side first won the bout. We had our fair share of injuries playing it.

[Nitro Express]

Emu meat is good...

I've never had it but I know there are farmers that raise them.

[Seshmeister]

Think they'd believe it ??

Those folk believe fucking anything as long as it makes them feel special. :)

[Nitro Express]

Buffalo burgers are awesome...

Similar to a regular burger, just a bit drier in some cases...

That's the problem with bison. You can dry it out. The best burger I ever had was at a place in Montana called Bullwinkles and it was all bison. I haven't had one since that beat it.

[DONNIEP]

Yeah.

Of course you can't generalize but that is a bit unique to the US I think.

Yeah, I never liked that kind of stuff. Chocolate chip pancakes and junk like that. And the restaurants here really crank up the portions for breakfast menu items. My kid and I go up to the mountains several times a year for long weekends and a lot of the restaurants up there have breakfast buffets and holy hell do the people load up. I don't know how they eat all that stuff and then spend the day walking around and shopping and doing all the touristy stuff. Hell, they probably can't after eating three plates of food.

[Nitro Express]

I like to workout in the morning. No interruptions.

[vandeleur]

I like to workout in the morning. No interruptions.

Is that code for a wank :D

[Nitro Express]

Yeah, I never liked that kind of stuff. Chocolate chip pancakes and junk like that. And the restaurants here really crank up the portions for breakfast menu items. My kid and I go up to the mountains several times a year for long weekends and a lot of the restaurants up there have breakfast buffets and holy hell do the people load up. I don't know how they eat all that stuff and then spend the day walking around and shopping and doing all the touristy stuff. Hell, they probably can't after eating three plates of food.

My main gripe with restaurants is the portion sizes. They are HUGE! I mean it's not even funny. I always go home with a doggy box.

[Nitro Express]

Is that code for a wank :D

Why not? The pecker is up ready to go in the morning.

[DONNIEP]

It's gonna be harder for kids to not be little pugsly's. We used to play outside until you were in trouble and had to go home . Just kicking a ball round a field . My kids only talk to their mates on xbox or facetime.
I have made them both do sports outside of school , both do TKD so hopefully they will keep it up through adulthood.

My kid hates being inside. And she doesn't do social media like a lot of her friends so she's not tied to her phone or ipod or ipad. Matter of fact the main thing she uses them for is reading. She's really conscious about what she eats too and on the days she's stuck here she gets on the treadmill and pounds out a couple miles. But she's always been active. I'd hate to have a fat kid. Could you imagine having to take a fat kid out in public? Man that would suck. That might be as bad as having an ugly kid.

[Seshmeister]

My main gripe with restaurants is the portion sizes. They are HUGE! I mean it's not even funny. I always go home with a doggy box.

When do you eat it?

If they brought out 2 buckets of fries would you feel obliged to eat them all?

I think that's part of it. Getting over the natural human thing that you need to eat what is put in front of you never mind the portion like a dog.

[Nitro Express]

My kid hates being inside. And she doesn't do social media like a lot of her friends so she's not tied to her phone or ipod or ipad. Matter of fact the main thing she uses them for is reading. She's really conscious about what she eats too and on the days she's stuck here she gets on the treadmill and pounds out a couple miles. But she's always been active. I'd hate to have a fat kid. Could you imagine having to take a fat kid out in public? Man that would suck. That might be as bad as having an ugly kid.

Most kids are naturally active. I think lazy parents make lazy kids.

[Seshmeister]

Could you imagine having to take a fat kid out in public? Man that would suck. That might be as bad as having an ugly kid.

LOL you are a terrible person and anyway fat is worse because it's their own fault plus someone with an amazing body is still hot no matter how ugly but a big flabby thing is that no matter how pretty they would be if they weren't.

It's all degrees of course...

[DONNIEP]

When do you eat it?

If they brought out 2 buckets of fries would you feel obliged to eat them all?

I think that's part of it. Getting over the natural human thing that you need to eat what is put in front of you never mind the portion like a dog.

That's part of it. When I was a kid we were told to "clean your plate" because there wasn't gonna be anything else until the next meal. We weren't poor, but there wasn't a lot of snack/junk food in the house. So you ate what was put in front of you and went back outside to raise hell and play. But nowadays when I go out to eat, I almost never finish the meal. It's just too damn much food. And the waiter/waitress is almost always surprised when we turn down dessert. I guess a lot of people eat dessert with meals. Growing up we almost never had any sort of dessert. And we never have it here at home now, well almost never.

[Nitro Express]

When do you eat it?

If they brought out 2 buckets of fries would you feel obliged to eat them all?

I think that's part of it. Getting over the natural human thing that you need to eat what is put in front of you never mind the portion like a dog.

I just want half or maybe a third and hey, that means the price should be half or two thirds less. The serving staff love the higher prices because they get bigger tips and one restaurant owner told me it's what the consumer wants. Well I don't want it and I don't want to look like 35% of the US population.

Sure modern medicine can prolong your life but if you fuck yourself up with bad eating habits it's not a quality life. Sitting in adult diapers for an extra few years with a fucked brain due to strokes isn't exactly the golden years.

Overeating is just as bad as all the other vices. Type 2 diabetes is the number one killer in the US. Heart disease is up there too. We are literally eating ourselves to death. Why? What's the thrill? If you want a thrill and want to kill yourself get a motorcycle and ride like a maniac! Hell become a rock star and spend all nine lives at once. Go for it! Be Kieth Moon have a good time and blow the works before you are 30. People will remember you.

[vandeleur]

LOL you are a terrible person and anyway fat is worse because it's their own fault plus someone with an amazing body is still hot no matter how ugly but a big flabby thing is that no matter how pretty they would be if they weren't.

It's all degrees of course...


Nope I work with a big women , who is super hot . weird , I know your gonna say am a chubby chaser but she is fantastic very very pretty.
But I think its because she dresses appropriatly ... if that makes sense.

[FORD]

That's the problem with bison. You can dry it out. The best burger I ever had was at a place in Montana called Bullwinkles and it was all bison. I haven't had one since that beat it.

If the place is called Bullwinkles, shouldn't they be serving mooseburgers?

On the other hand, there's Tatanka Burgers in Tacoma WA, just south of Point Defiance park. "Tatanka" being the Lakota people's name for the Buffalo, of course.

https://www.facebook.com/Tatankatakeout

A bit pricy, as far as take out burger joints go, but they are damn good!

[Seshmeister]

Nope I work with a big women , who is super hot . weird , I know your gonna say am a chubby chaser but she is fantastic very very pretty.
But I think its because she dresses appropriatly ... if that makes sense.

If you find fat women a turn on then you are going to be a super happy man because there are plenty to go around. :)

[vandeleur]

its unfortunate my post was followed by a one mentioning moose :D

[vandeleur]

If you find fat women a turn on then you are going to be a super happy man because there are plenty to go around. :)

I find pretty women pretty :biggrin:

[Nitro Express]

Nope I work with a big women , who is super hot . weird , I know your gonna say am a chubby chaser but she is fantastic very very pretty.
But I think its because she dresses appropriatly ... if that makes sense.



Is her name Rosie?

[Seshmeister]

"Tatanka" being the Lakota people's name for the Buffalo, of course.


Of course I was just about to say that.

[DONNIEP]

someone with an amazing body is still hot no matter how ugly

You should see this new chick they hired at the office. I was outside on Friday, hitting the e cig, and this chick comes outside to smoke. Tight blue jeans, long slim stems, tight top and a killer rack and long bleached blonde hair. And of course I immediately start hitting on her and she turns around and she has a face that would kill the mightiest of boners. I mean just an old sea hag. What a disappointment.

[vandeleur]

you know what , am saying big on an american forum... she aint that BIG . More volup .......... who cares she has tits am not choosey :)

[vandeleur]

You should see this new chick they hired at the office. I was outside on Friday, hitting the e cig, and this chick comes outside to smoke. Tight blue jeans, long slim stems, tight top and a killer rack and long bleached blonde hair. And of course I immediately start hitting on her and she turns around and she has a face that would kill the mightiest of boners. I mean just an old sea hag. What a disappointment.


I fear you have a sensitive boner if a bit of ugly puts it off :D

[Nitro Express]

You should see this new chick they hired at the office. I was outside on Friday, hitting the e cig, and this chick comes outside to smoke. Tight blue jeans, long slim stems, tight top and a killer rack and long bleached blonde hair. And of course I immediately start hitting on her and she turns around and she has a face that would kill the mightiest of boners. I mean just an old sea hag. What a disappointment.

I love that show The Office. It's funny because all the stuff is so true. LOL!

[Seshmeister]

In real life of course this is an insanely dangerous topic to discuss in public. :)

Like for example your skinny girl when they get to 40 may go haggard and old looking especially if she smokes but that is no reason to go fat either.

Or that the obsessive about their weight girls are maybe less good in bed or less fun?

The whole thing is a minefield of generalizations and trueisms... :D

[Nitro Express]

I fear you have a sensitive boner if a bit of ugly puts it off :D Drive her from the rear. Imagine her being someone else. Mr. Boner wont care then. But hey. She might fall in love and you will hate going to the office after. She's probably going to want More! More! More! and you will create an inter-office soap opera.

[DONNIEP]

I fear you have a sensitive boner if a bit of ugly puts it off :D

Dude - this wasn't a "bit of ugly". This was the whole damn sack of ugly. I mean I'm all in my "welcome to Donnie's World" mode and this chick turns around and I nearly said "Aww...dammit! You're ugly as hell!"

[vandeleur]

Dude - this wasn't a "bit of ugly". This was the whole damn sack of ugly. I mean I'm all in my "welcome to Donnie's World" mode and this chick turns around and I nearly said "Aww...dammit! You're ugly as hell!"

She was probably pretty on the inside :)

[Seshmeister]

you know what , am saying big on an american forum... she aint that BIG . More volup .......... who cares she has tits am not choosey :)

Well exactly, she's probably skinny in US terms. :)

On vacation the other week there was an African American woman who I had to literally route plan around while catching a train in Italy. Instead of just passing her I had to turn 90 degrees to the left, walk for a while and then turn again to get around her.

It was extraordinary.

[DONNIEP]

I love that show The Office. It's funny because all the stuff is so true. LOL!

Never seen The Office. But I can tell you this - you put 120 something people together in a building, working closely, day after day, and half of em are gonna be fucking each other. Married, not married, who cares. It's just how it is. And people say "Never dip your pen in the company ink". But I always said if the company is providing all this ink....

[Nitro Express]

In real life of course this is an insanely dangerous topic to discuss in public. :)

Like for example your skinny girl when they get to 40 may go haggard and old looking especially if she smokes but that is no reason to go fat either.

Or that the obsessive about their weight girls are maybe less good in bed or less fun?

The whole thing is a minefield of generalizations and trueisms... :D

Oh what a tangled web we weave. Tell the truth or enable, that's the question.

[DONNIEP]

She was probably pretty on the inside :)

She probably was. But I don't think I could get drunk enough to see the inside of her cooch. Ok, so I could get drunk enough. But damn man, you sure as hell wouldn't want to wake up with a hangover, a sore dick, and staring into that face first thing in the morning..

[vandeleur]

Well exactly, she's probably skinny in US terms. :)

On vacation the other week there was an African American woman who I had to literally route plan around while catching a train in Italy. Instead of just passing her I had to turn 90 degrees to the left, walk for a while and then turn again to get around her.

It was extraordinary.

Me and the wife went to new york a few years back and there was some huge people , I mean giant . Once you think about how these people just go through every day things its a bit gross.

[Nitro Express]

Never seen The Office. But I can tell you this - you put 120 something people together in a building, working closely, day after day, and half of em are gonna be fucking each other. Married, not married, who cares. It's just how it is. And people say "Never dip your pen in the company ink". But I always said if the company is providing all this ink....

Yea I know. The strangest things happen on business trips. Frankly I'm glad it's just me and some business partners. That office thing was plenty of fun when I was younger and not taken. I loved business trips then and there was no TSA bullshit.

Business trips are kind of like remote shoots in the movie industry. What happens on the shoot stays on the shoot.

[Seshmeister]

I have friends who I don't understand how they can fuck.

I mean that mechanically. Of course maybe the guy is hung like an anteater... :)

[DONNIEP]

Business trips are kind of like remote shoots in the movie industry. What happens on the shoot stays on the shoot.

Exactly. You send a guy and a chick off for a week and there's gonna be some fucking. Period. I hate Boston but I sure do love going up there for a week...

[Seshmeister]

Yea I know. The strangest things happen on business trips. Frankly I'm glad it's just me and some business partners. That office thing was plenty of fun when I was younger and not taken. I loved business trips then and there was no TSA bullshit.

Business trips are kind of like remote shoots in the movie industry. What happens on the shoot stays on the shoot.

So you fuck people as long as they live a specified distance from your wife?

I'm not judging just asking? :)

[DONNIEP]

I have friends who I don't understand how they can fuck.

I mean that mechanically. Of course maybe the guy is hung like an anteater... :)

I think Warf sent me a link to some fat porn once. Holy hell it was horrible. Some humongous whore with a freaking midget. Disturbing doesn't come close to describing it. And yes, I watched the whole damn thing.

:biggrin:

[DONNIEP]

So you fuck people as long as they live a specified distance from your wife?

I'm not judging just asking? :)

That's the Zip Code Rule.

[vandeleur]

So you fuck people as long as they live a specified distance from your wife?

I'm not judging just asking? :)


Hey , thats cool . And just for information that specific distance is when her back is turned . I keed :)

[Nitro Express]

So you fuck people as long as they live a specified distance from your wife?

I'm not judging just asking? :)

Not me but there are people who think that way. It's the what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas mentality.

[Kristy]

For the record, I still have two CRT TVs. They aren't plugged in, of course, but it's not like I could sell the more recent of the two, and I just hate to part with the 13" Sony from the mid 80s, because it's a rare model, and theoretically probably worth more than I paid for it (and it wasn't cheap either) if anybody actually collects that sort of thing.

China and/or India does. They'll gladly throw it in one of their landfills for you.

[Kristy]

I think Warf sent me a link to some fat porn once. Holy hell it was horrible. Some humongous whore with a freaking midget. Disturbing doesn't come close to describing it. And yes, I watched the whole damn thing.

:biggrin:

That was me. Deep Rolls was the name of that one.

[Seshmeister]

That's the Zip Code Rule.

There are only 2 houses with our zip code. :)

[DONNIEP]

That was me. Deep Rolls was the name of that one.

Ah, now I remember.

[Kristy]

That was one of my better ones.

[vandeleur]

That was one of my better ones.

I have to ask , you arnt the midget are you ?

[Kristy]

I was going to do the whole pizza delivery porn trope but kept on eating the pizzas.

[Nitro Express]

Hey , thats cool . And just for information that specific distance is when her back is turned . I keed :)

My mom told me this story. There was this motel ran by the mob on I-84. They were running a whorehouse in the joint. There was this lady who was in my moms church quilting group. Everyone thought she was this conservative church going type. Anyways her husband bought a trick at the motel and when he met the trick for the night it was his wife. No shit. I don't know if she needed extra money or if she was living some sort of fantasy. Who knows. Can you imagine? LOL!

[Seshmeister]

I think Warf sent me a link to some fat porn once. Holy hell it was horrible. Some humongous whore with a freaking midget. Disturbing doesn't come close to describing it. And yes, I watched the whole damn thing.

:biggrin:


There is a theme here.

One of the funniest nights I ever spent online was with WARF trolling a 'feeder' website offering our wares to a bunch of human manatee.

I know I know, but we were young immature and headstrong... :)

[DONNIEP]

There are only 2 houses with our zip code. :)

Yes, but when you get outside of that zip code anything goes. And how in the hell do you guys even get mail?? I send shit to Vandy and I'm shocked it ever gets there. His address is something like 69 Wankershire, Down The Street From The Pub, Newkie 36789 something or other. Can't you just have name, street number, town, zip code?

[Nitro Express]

Porn is a freak show.

[vandeleur]

wankershire :lol:

[Seshmeister]

I don't usually read my mail.

It's all bills and life is too short to worry about such things. :)

[Kristy]

Debbie Does Danishes, The Doughnuts in Miss Jones, and Behind The Pastry Door were some of my others.

[DONNIEP]

wankershire :lol:

Sorry - I know that is personal information but I didn't think you'd mind.

[FORD]

My mom told me this story. There was this motel ran by the mob on I-84. They were running a whorehouse in the joint. There was this lady who was in my moms church quilting group. Everyone thought she was this conservative church going type. Anyways her husband bought a trick at the motel and when he met the trick for the night it was his wife. No shit. I don't know if she needed extra money or if she was living some sort of fantasy. Who knows. Can you imagine? LOL!

I hope she at least took the Holy Underwear off while she was "working". Those things are frighteningly ugly, especially to non-Mormons who have never seen them before.

Where was this motel at? I stayed in a really odd motel off of I-84 once. Didn't see any hookers there, but I swear the room I slept in was a converted broom closet. I was too tired to give a shit by then, and back on the road at sunrise anyway......

[Kristy]

Well I thought it was funny. I had to Google "Classic porn titles." So...

http://www.nag.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/cartman_screw_you_guys_text_nag.jpg

[DONNIEP]

Well I thought it was funny. I had to Google "Classic porn titles." So...

http://www.nag.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/cartman_screw_you_guys_text_nag.jpg

That makes me want to bring back my old avatar...

[vandeleur]

Well I thought it was funny. I had to Google "Classic porn titles." So...

http://www.nag.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/cartman_screw_you_guys_text_nag.jpg


It was funny chill, you are so demanding :)

[Kristy]

Comes from all those years riding the short bus.

[Nitro Express]

I hope she at least took the Holy Underwear off while she was "working". Those things are frighteningly ugly, especially to non-Mormons who have never seen them before.

Where was this motel at? I stayed in a really odd motel off of I-84 once. Didn't see any hookers there, but I swear the room I slept in was a converted broom closet. I was too tired to give a shit by then, and back on the road at sunrise anyway......

It was in Burley, Idaho. The place was called The Ponderossa. What's funny is another member of our church was an FBI Agent. He would mostly tail Russian agents when they came into the country. We were halfway between the Idaho Nuclear Engineering Laboratory and Hanford. The US Navy had it's nuclear propulsion laboratory at the Idaho facility and the Ruskies took a particular interest in that.

Anyways he was in charge of busting The Ponderossa. He said the head mob guy married the madam so she couldn't testify against him. He said justice was done because she was the ugliest woman he had ever seen.

I used to go on fishing and hunting trips with the guy. He wanted me to ride up with him to check on his cabin. He was old and starting to lose it. We are going in his car and he's loading like big rolls of rope and there are shovels and all this equipment in the trunk of his Crown Vic. He's going over a checklist and there's Federal Bureau of Investigation on the letter head. He's following an old FBI checklist. The more we drove the more I saw he thought he was still in the Bureau. LOL! He had this taxidermed cougar he was especially proud of because he took it with his service pistol. I was asking about the pistol and he pulled it out of a holster behind his back. He was packing and I didn't even know it. It was a snub Smith & Wesson 357. Old school.

All I know is we were ready for anything. There was more shit packed in that trunk than I ever thought you could cram into a Crown Vic trunk.

[Nitro Express]

The holy underwear keeps getting smaller. The thing is a church has to change with the times or it loses members. People just didn't want to wear long johns anymore. I'm waiting for the day they have holy temple G Strings.

I mean they keep changing the temple ceremony. It used to be incredibly sexist. Women were pretty much property of their husbands and they made fun of Catholic priests. Oh and you swore masonic death oaths. That's all gone.

The day they have a black apostle is when they have the holy G stings. The day they have an openly gay apostle is the day hell freezes over.

The best way to describe Mormonism is it's bastardized free masonry. Take some american prodestantism, mix in some Swedenborgism, mix in some free masonry and some creative license from Joseph Smith and walla. Mormonism.

[DONNIEP]

you swore masonic death oaths

I don't even know what this means but sign me up!!

[Nitro Express]

wankershire :lol:

wankershire sauce

[ELVIS]

And of course I immediately start hitting on her...

Did you learn that behavior in church ??

[Nitro Express]

I don't even know what this means but sign me up!!

You would love it. It's called The Endowment Ceremony and it's super secret. You even get a new name that is your temple name. You dress in white and wear this cool pleated robe that looks like a toga and this funky hat that has a string you tie to a special loop on the toga. Then you wear an apron like a mason but it's not a masonic apron it's like green fig leaves. Ha! ha! It's totally asinine.

Ok so you get these signs and tokens which are secret hand shakes that mean different things and you have to memorize them to get into the holy of hollies of the temple. There are four secret handshakes and when you are shown them you swear a death oath that you will never divulge them. One penalty is having your tongue ripped out by its roots. The other one your throat is slit. The third one your are disembowled and I forgot the fourth one.

Anyways all this super secret stuff is on the internet and anyone interested now knows so so much for secrecy.

[vandeleur]

Not sure we have mormans over here ? Are they called something else ??

[vandeleur]

You have very serious religion over there , we have tea and biscuits religion .

[DONNIEP]

Did you learn that behavior in church ??

I'm single and the sea hag didn't have a wedding band on.

[Nitro Express]

Not sure we have mormans over here ? Are they called something else ??

The official name of the church is: Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Great Britain was one of the first countries proselyted so you have had Mormons over there since the 1830's or 1840's. Most of the foreign converts who migrated to the US came out of Great Britain or Scandinavia. That's why there are a lot of tall blondes in Utah. There are a lot of Scandinavians there. There is a temple in London. I think there is one or more others in the UK. There is a chapel in the Hyde Park area of London.

[DONNIEP]

You would love it. It's called The Endowment Ceremony and it's super secret. You even get a new name that is your temple name. You dress in white and wear this cool pleated robe that looks like a toga and this funky hat that has a string you tie to a special loop on the toga. Then you wear an apron like a mason but it's not a masonic apron it's like green fig leaves. Ha! ha! It's totally asinine.

Ok so you get these signs and tokens which are secret hand shakes that mean different things and you have to memorize them to get into the holy of hollies of the temple. There are four secret handshakes and when you are shown them you swear a death oath that you will never divulge them. One penalty is having your tongue ripped out by its roots. The other one your throat is slit. The third one your are disembowled and I forgot the fourth one.

Anyways all this super secret stuff is on the internet and anyone interested now knows so so much for secrecy.

Do you get a special Rolex to wear after you complete the ceremony? Because if you do, I am fucking IN!

[vandeleur]

The word endowment has Donniep interested lol

[Nitro Express]

You have very serious religion over there , we have tea and biscuits religion .

Mormonism is pretty heavy religion. It's pretty demanding. I would say that's why a lot of Mormons are successful because you have to have a hell of a work ethic to stay on the church treadmill and like jews, education is pushed. It's a "Chosen People" religion. Basically the jews blew it so God made Mormons the "Chosen People". If you believe it you really get a confidence boost. You also tend to be overbearing on people outside the clique and they tend to get pissed off. That's why the Mormons got ran out of everywhere and they eventually settled in the Utah desert. Once in isolation it grew.

[DONNIEP]

The word endowment has Donniep interested lol

Hey, not everybody is born with a giant cock.

[FORD]

You have very serious religion over there , we have tea and biscuits religion .

The tea & biscuits Anglican church is known as the Episcopalian church over here. Actually have one about three blocks down the street. Never been there for services, but they had some sort of a block party/open house thing a couple weeks ago, so I dropped by for the Hell of it. Nice enough people, but I think I was the only person there who was between the ages of 10 and 60, so despite the easy walking distance, if I were church shopping it probably wouldn't be at the top of my list.

They weren't serving tea & biscuits oddly enough. They have a "multicultural" congregation, so they were cooking up hot dogs, egg rolls, and taquitos. Tragically, all they had to wash it down with was lemonade. They could have busted out the communion wine, maybe?

[Nitro Express]

Do you get a special Rolex to wear after you complete the ceremony? Because if you do, I am fucking IN!



Someone snuck a camera into the Salt Lake City Temple. This is the prayer circle. You can put the name of someone you want to help on a scroll and it goes on the alter and they have a group prayer over it. You can see the funky temple clothes. You would think with all the hocus pocus and having to give all these hidden signs and tokens to get into the celestial room there would be some kind of reward. Nope. You go into a really nice room that is supposed to represent where God lives and you just can hang around there. It's like sitting in a really nice hotel lobby. LOL! No Rolex. No 72 virgins. No party in the baptismal font. It's pretty boring. But you can make killer business contacts if you know how to network. The thing is, you have become one of the group. You are on the inside and as Gordon Gecko said in Wall Street. You are either on the inside or you are outside.

Also they watered the ceremony down. They used to speak Adamic. The language of Adam when they called upon God. In another 50 years they probably will just wear T-Shirts and eat cookies and punch. It's getting watered down folks. It used to be weirder.

[vandeleur]

weird sounds fun ,

[Nitro Express]

Under all them temple clothes is the holy under garments. Yes indeed. Like a super hero with the priesthood robe on you are ready for action! You got your signs and tokens and have all the keys to open the door to where God dwells and you become a god yourself. Owwwwwwwwww! Screw the rolex. You can make universes and planets. You can have as many women as you want. You can make as many Rolex's as you want. Mormons think BIG!

[Nitro Express]

weird sounds fun ,

Oh there was some fun to be had in the 70's and 80's. I don't think the church is as fun now. They use to have some really great activities and trips.

[DONNIEP]

Under all them temple clothes is the holy under garments. Yes indeed. Like a super hero with the priesthood robe on you are ready for action! You got your signs and tokens and have all the keys to open the door to where God dwells and you become a god yourself. Owwwwwwwwww! Screw the rolex. You can make universes and planets. You can have as many women as you want. You can make as many Rolex's as you want. Mormons think BIG!

Unless I get a 36mm rollie with a fluted bezel then I don't care. Universes and womarns are great. But when I'm making planets I want to be sure there's a rollie on my wrist.

[FORD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giTHXjaa-PA&list=PL_U8k6Ox4x6WlDIM_1jN3UQNVBwAI3g9h

[Nitro Express]

I can relate to Mr. Geddy Lee on this. Growing up in a strict religion kinds of makes you want to go the other way.

[Nitro Express]

Unless I get a 36mm rollie with a fluted bezel then I don't care. Universes and womarns are great. But when I'm making planets I want to be sure there's a rollie on my wrist.

Ah but everyone is supposed to be equal in the temple. You remove your bling and go in real humble. In the temple Mitt Romney or John Huntsman are no more important than a poor person from Guatemala. It's not really a show off your bling kind of place.

[Nitro Express]

The tea & biscuits Anglican church is known as the Episcopalian church over here. Actually have one about three blocks down the street. Never been there for services, but they had some sort of a block party/open house thing a couple weeks ago, so I dropped by for the Hell of it. Nice enough people, but I think I was the only person there who was between the ages of 10 and 60, so despite the easy walking distance, if I were church shopping it probably wouldn't be at the top of my list.

They weren't serving tea & biscuits oddly enough. They have a "multicultural" congregation, so they were cooking up hot dogs, egg rolls, and taquitos. Tragically, all they had to wash it down with was lemonade. They could have busted out the communion wine, maybe?

A Chinese friend of mine is Methodist. I go to the big fundraising diner he puts on for the great chinese food. In Salt Lake I used to go to the Greek Orthodox church. They threw a killer Greek festival every year.

[DONNIEP]

Ah but everyone is supposed to be equal in the temple. You remove your bling and go in real humble. In the temple Mitt Romney or John Huntsman are no more important than a poor person from Guatemala. It's not really a show off your bling kind of place.

Then what is the point??

[Kristy]

I find this whole thread to be ridiculous.

[Nitro Express]

The word endowment has Donniep interested lol

Well here's the deal. They take this temple business quite seriously. Before you make any commitments they explain everything in detail to you. They are real thorough. Endowment is a legal term. Basically you go into the ceremony and make certain commitments to God and if you honor those commitments you become a god yourself. There's a male/female part to godhood so you have to be sealed to a member of the opposite sex in the temple to get the big pay off which is godhood. Once a god I'm sure you can have as big of a dick as you want. I mean talk about a payoff here. Most religions offer entrance to heaven. In the Mormon church you become a god. Oh it's a lot of commitment. You lose a lot of freedom in this life but boy howdy! damn! The payoff is the mother load times a thousand!

[Nitro Express]

Then what is the point??

You have to be humble here so you become a god later. Kind of like Jesus. He wasn't flashing bling around. He was a humble dude. See. You don't get paid until you die.

[Nitro Express]

I find this whole thread to be ridiculous.

Church is good for only two things. The jokes and the food.

[Nitro Express]

I think successful religions have a lot of hocus pocus, traditions, and symbolisms. You just have to have some funny hats. It's a must! You get the members so lost in the hocus pocus and they are so busy trying to get through the maze you made that they don't have time to figure out it's all bullshit.

[FORD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4Ep3q3Zrjo

[Nitro Express]

That sign at the Bohemian Grove is the name of a famous pirate. Them oligarchs must see themselves as pirates. Wherever there are Bush's there are boneheads. A guy who was hired to work there said there are skull and bone symbolism all over the grove. The same with skull and bones. All clearly based on germantic death cults and of course that is what the Nazis were tied into.

Now here's some conspiracy food for thought. Bob Weir of The Grateful Dead attends Bohemian Grove. Now was the Grateful Dead a CIA operation? Was Ken Kesey an operative or being used? Skulls, Bones, and roses. Roses are a roisicrucian symbolism. Then you have Hunter penning lyrics like "Here I am. Uncle Sam. Hiding out in a rock and roll band."

Was Hunter working with the Stanford Research Institute and using The Grateful Dead to string people out on LSD? The band could have been used along with the whole Acid Test thing without the participants knowing.

Let's face it. There was an anti-establishment revolution in the 1960's. Why it failed was the revolutionaries got strung out on drugs. Could the CIA have been behind it all and the skull, bones, roses, and egyptian symbolism the illuminati flipping everyone the bird? Think about it?



Me thinks all them hippies have been had in hindsight. I wonder if Bob is friends with the Bush family? Did the Bush family run a so called opium war on the hippies? LOL!

[Nitro Express]

When I was at a masterclass with Jack Casady he mentioned when the Jefferson Airplane started everyone was just playing clubs in San Francisco. To promote your gig at the clubs you rented a flat bed truck and did free concerts in Golden Gate Park. He said these free concerts became really popular and everything in Haight Ashbury was great until 1967. He said people from Berkley came in and made the whole scene political. He said they were aggressive and had an agenda and took over. Who was running this group out of Berkley?

[FORD]

Goddamn it, don't ruin the Grateful Dead for me by tying them to the BCE. It's bad enough that Stewart Copeland's dad worked for them :(


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHbybn8UAQ4

[Seshmeister]

There are four secret handshakes and when you are shown them you swear a death oath that you will never divulge them. One penalty is having your tongue ripped out by its roots. The other one your throat is slit. The third one your are disembowled and I forgot the fourth one.



Is it something to do with writing posts about the Federal Bank...? :)

[Nickdfresh]

The tea & biscuits Anglican church is known as the Episcopalian church over here. Actually have one about three blocks down the street. Never been there for services, but they had some sort of a block party/open house thing a couple weeks ago, so I dropped by for the Hell of it. Nice enough people, but I think I was the only person there who was between the ages of 10 and 60, so despite the easy walking distance, if I were church shopping it probably wouldn't be at the top of my list.

They weren't serving tea & biscuits oddly enough. They have a "multicultural" congregation, so they were cooking up hot dogs, egg rolls, and taquitos. Tragically, all they had to wash it down with was lemonade. They could have busted out the communion wine, maybe?

It's Catholic-lite :)

[ELVIS]

Well here's the deal. They take this temple business quite seriously. Before you make any commitments they explain everything in detail to you. They are real thorough. Endowment is a legal term. Basically you go into the ceremony and make certain commitments to God and if you honor those commitments you become a god yourself. There's a male/female part to godhood so you have to be sealed to a member of the opposite sex in the temple to get the big pay off which is godhood. Once a god I'm sure you can have as big of a dick as you want. I mean talk about a payoff here. Most religions offer entrance to heaven. In the Mormon church you become a god. Oh it's a lot of commitment. You lose a lot of freedom in this life but boy howdy! damn! The payoff is the mother load times a thousand!

No it isn't...

What's "the mother load", anyway ??

They need the Bible...

[ELVIS]

Kind of like Jesus.

Close but no cigar...

All hat, no cattle...

[Seshmeister]

It's Catholic-lite :)

Oh they're super lite, the last archbishop of Canterbury was virtually an atheist. :)

[ELVIS]

What do you expect ??

It's worldly religion...

They're like the pharisees...

[Nitro Express]

No it isn't...

What's "the mother load", anyway ??

They need the Bible...

Ever heard of the King James version of the bible? The Mormons use that version. They might interpret it differently but they do have the bible.

[Nitro Express]

Is it something to do with writing posts about the Federal Bank...? :)

No its about a glorious thread hijack.

[Nitro Express]

Goddamn it, don't ruin the Grateful Dead for me by tying them to the BCE. It's bad enough that Stewart Copeland's dad worked for them :(


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHbybn8UAQ4

Miles Copeland Sr. not only worked for daddy Bush. He said he was the best director of the CIA ever.

[Nitro Express]

No it isn't...

What's "the mother load", anyway ??

They need the Bible...

The mother load is becoming a god. See the baptists just believe in being saved and entering heaven. That's pretty boring. Mormons believe you become a god and create your own universe. They believe Jesus created the earth and then came down in the flesh to save his creation. So we are living on Jesus' planet and in Jesus' universe right now and he reigns supreme. He's the big mentor. Yeah he opened the way to salvation but there's more. He's going to show you how to do miracles yourself and become a god yourself so you can make planets like Jesus did. That's the mother load and to get it means you have to do everything the Mormon leaders tell you to do. LOL!

So there is this glorious payoff but you have to die to get it.

[Nitro Express]

In a way, religion is like buying lottery tickets. People send money to this organization that promises a big pay off. The thing is, Lotteries can offer more proof people really do get paid.

[Nitro Express]

It's like The Joy of Painting. It's your world man. You can make it whatever you want to be.

[vandeleur]

I like the Virgin thing , there ain't many of them about so when I die I want Some of those , mmmmmm being a god sounds good to , and my own universe you say .
There seems to be some good offers about if you shop around :)

[Nitro Express]

I like the Virgin thing , there ain't many of them about so when I die I want Some of those , mmmmmm being a god sounds good to , and my own universe you say .
There seems to be some good offers about if you shop around :)

Oh yeah. The muslims have a pretty good heaven but the Mormons have a bigger buffet. You become Bob Ross and you can paint any heaven you want.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Not sure we have mormans over here ? Are they called something else ??

lessmons

[DONNIEP]

Higgins mentioned the Bohemian Grove deal a few posts back. Now, I know you're all gonna say "Hell NO!" but you really should watch Alex Jones' video where he infiltrates the Bohemian Grove. It's hilarious. He's hyping it up almost as if they're gonna be caught and executed at any moment, lol. And all it is is a bunch of dudes running around in the woods, getting drunk and acting like they're having a Klan rally, without the whole hate black people part. At the beginning of this thing, they're in one of the parking lots and the cars are almost all shit. I mean it looks like the Walmart parking lot, no joke. And I'm thinking "Hang on a minute...If these are the richest, most powerful people on earth, how come they can't afford decent cars?" Also, if these are the rich and powerful, how come they can't just have a meeting like the Bilderbergers? And how come there's no chicks there? There ain't no way you're gonna get a couple hundred super rich dudes together without their wives and not have a fleet of high class hookers. Come to think of it, being super rich and powerful doesn't sound like all that much fun.

[ELVIS]

Ever heard of the King James version of the bible? The Mormons use that version. They might interpret it differently but they do have the bible.

I know they have it, they need to read it and discard all the other outward garbage and get rich schemes...

[ELVIS]

Oh yeah. The muslims have a pretty good heaven but the Mormons have a bigger buffet. You become Bob Ross and you can paint any heaven you want.

And it's all bull...

[ELVIS]

When I was at a masterclass with Jack Casady...

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/q4roxM8hUMk/hqdefault.jpg

[Nitro Express]

Higgins mentioned the Bohemian Grove deal a few posts back. Now, I know you're all gonna say "Hell NO!" but you really should watch Alex Jones' video where he infiltrates the Bohemian Grove. It's hilarious. He's hyping it up almost as if they're gonna be caught and executed at any moment, lol. And all it is is a bunch of dudes running around in the woods, getting drunk and acting like they're having a Klan rally, without the whole hate black people part. At the beginning of this thing, they're in one of the parking lots and the cars are almost all shit. I mean it looks like the Walmart parking lot, no joke. And I'm thinking "Hang on a minute...If these are the richest, most powerful people on earth, how come they can't afford decent cars?" Also, if these are the rich and powerful, how come they can't just have a meeting like the Bilderbergers? And how come there's no chicks there? There ain't no way you're gonna get a couple hundred super rich dudes together without their wives and not have a fleet of high class hookers. Come to think of it, being super rich and powerful doesn't sound like all that much fun.

All I know is Nixon said The Bohemian Grove was the most god dammed faggoty place.




Did Tricky Dick and The Gipper do each other at the grove? Not a pretty visual.

[Satan]

All I know is Nixon said The Bohemian Grove was the most god dammed faggoty place.

True dat.......



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPb-PN9F2Pc


Actually, he still complains about that place.

[Kristy]

I can relate to Mr. Geddy Lee on this. Growing up in a strict religion kinds of makes you want to go the other way.

The F A T douchebaggy guitar player is now doing stand up:


Unfunny.

[Seshmeister]

.....

[Seshmeister]

The F A T douchebaggy guitar player is now doing stand up:


Unfunny.

Alex is great but not a master joke teller, this is the original which I posted here a couple of years ago I think.

[Seshmeister]

Buffalo burgers are awesome...

Similar to a regular burger, just a bit drier in some cases...

Hah...

http://s2.b3ta.com/host/creative/69639/1401313770/burgermaticxx.gif

[DONNIEP]

Hah...

http://s2.b3ta.com/host/creative/69639/1401313770/burgermaticxx.gif

You should be ashamed of yourself! That's The King for cryin' out loud!

[Nitro Express]

The F A T douchebaggy guitar player is now doing stand up:


Unfunny.

Rush are just some old farts who try to be funny. I used to see these guys in the late 70's and early 80's. They used to just play. Alex would toss guitars back and forth and good off a bit but today they have turned into old faggots. The last time I saw them Geddy Lee had a fake parrot on his shoulder singing "We are the pirates of Syrinx." He no longer wails like he used to and the band relies on props and goofball antics that frankly just suck. I will never see this band again ever. I'm done with them. Plus the drummer is just full of himself. Can't talk to the fans? He runs and hides. Actually I can't blame him. If you ever saw what nerds compose a Rush audience you would run too. Old fat lame asses singing along and playing air guitar.

[Kristy]

You should be ashamed of yourself! That's The King for cryin' out loud!

The Burger King?

[DONNIEP]

The Burger King?

touche

[ELVIS]

No, the King and servant of Roth Army...

[Kristy]

This was funnier:

[Kristy]

No, the King and servant of Roth Army...

Hippie.

[ELVIS]

What's wrong with that ??

[Seshmeister]

No, the King and servant of Roth Army...

http://blog.outgoing.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/2-weeks-to-go-timeline1.jpg