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FORD
01-15-2004, 10:12 AM
Four More Years Would Spell Disaster
January 14, 2004
By Doug Snider

What a difference a year makes. Or does it? One year ago this week I took my first timid steps at activism, opposing a war that I honestly believed could be stopped. My first peace rally was soon followed a peace march that left my feet blistered for weeks. During the ensuing weeks I wrote letters to editors, web sites, legislators and friends hoping that one more voice of reason might make the difference. I joined an eloquent silent protest and witnessed the hateful treatment that true patriots earn when they oppose a popular form of lunacy.

This week, when it is statistically likely that we will observe the 500th U.S. fatality of the war and the 600th coalition death, I learned why my efforts had been doomed to failure before they even began. The invasion of Iraq was set in irreversible motion when the Supreme Court of the United States said "Game Over" and an administration was put in power with war at the top of its "to do" list. Former treasury secretary Paul O'Neill's revelations make it clear now that George Bush's elective war had far less to do with preemption than it did with projecting American military power into the heart of the world's oil reserves.

The myth of a nation united by the tragic events of 9-11 quickly gave way to the reality of a tragically divided nation. The past twelve months have seen an alarming decline in civility and a frightening escalation of hate mongering and fear mongering. Questioning an administration whose own legitimacy is questionable is cause for accusations of treason. Rights we have always taken for granted are now in jeopardy and perhaps non-existent for certain minorities. A year ago I stopped short of stating that the symbols of our cherished freedoms were being usurped as symbols of a tyranny based upon the well stoked fires of fear. Now I have no doubt.

If we allow the Bush administration another four years to complete their grand design, we will not recognize this country. America the Beautiful is already the most hated and feared power on earth, one that answers to no law and no standard of international decency. One Nation Under God is now a nation that enlists God in its persecution of those who stand in its way. We have already seen an administration keen on constitutionalizing the sacrament of marriage and proclaiming the president the moral leader of our nation. We are dominated by a movement that puts the life of an unborn fetus ahead of that of its living mother but will not even acknowledge the innocent thousands it has killed in the name of liberation.

We are appalled at how deeply the Sunnis and Shiites hate each other but too many of us ignore the deepening enmity among our own citizens. The United States is becoming parallel universes where in one everyone sees a dangerous, arrogant, bumbling, incompetent leader and in the other that same figure is seen as a heroic man of the people. The evidence is mounting that the former is reality, but will the rest wake up in time?

As the Bush administration utters a classic Emily Litella "never mind" over its bogus justifications to invade another nation, we will see an increasing barrage of distractions from the critical truth. The Bush Space Initiative is a laudable diversion and an eloquent testimony to the historic role that chimps have played in the American space program, but it will only get off the ground if some genius finds a way to fuel rockets with red ink.

George Bush is inviting foreign workers to swarm to our cities while real jobs are fleeing like rats leaving a sinking ship. From now on out it's all politics and anyone who thinks Bush has suddenly become a real president is watching too much junk television. It's the kind of politics that should have us all concerned. When the incumbent and so far unchallenged president needs over two hundred million dollars from the beneficiaries of his outlandish tax cuts, you know this will be an election that will trash democracy like none before. I made my first ever contribution to a presidential campaign this year and I feel as inadequate as all those junk e-mails want me to feel. Size matters, and my small contribution doesn't carry the weight of a corporate heavy hitter's at a Bush fund-raising love fest. We are in a vicious cycle of power buying even more power.

I have some fears about the next Bush presidency that hit very close to home. My biggest fear, one that I first expressed when Bush won by a single vote in the Supreme Court, is that my two sons will be forced to serve and possibly die for the madness of Dick Cheney and his Neo-con high priests. The reinstatement of the military draft is already in progress but will receive little real attention until it is once again the law of the land. The civil liberties that have disappeared in just two years are just a hint of what is to come if Bush rides back into office, this time on the strength of the votes of nineteen suicidal hijackers. Local law enforcement agencies have already been asked to keep an eye on people like me who make their dissent public. In 2005 homeland security will likely go way beyond today's already invasive surveillance.

Last year's anger and hope have given way to outrage and disgust. I am outraged that the crimes of George Bush have been applauded by so many Americans and I am disgusted that the only vision Bush offers my children is a lifetime of war and terror

Catfish
01-15-2004, 11:09 AM
FOUR MORE YEARS!
FOUR MORE YEARS!
FOUR MORE YEARS!
:killer:

Osama Bin Laden
01-15-2004, 12:13 PM
Yes, four more years! Great Satan Bush has done far more damage to your infidel corrupt country than I could have ever done alone. I found his conquest of the infidel socialist Saddam to be most amusing.

BigBadBrian
01-15-2004, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by Osama Bin Laden
Yes, four more years! Great Satan Bush has done far more damage to your infidel corrupt country than I could have ever done alone. I found his conquest of the infidel socialist Saddam to be most amusing.

Yeah, on second thought, OBL just might be FORD. :gulp:

FORD
01-15-2004, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Yeah, on second thought, OBL just might be FORD. :gulp:

Not unless I borrowed Ken Lay's lear jet from Bush and use it to travel back and forth from Saudi Arabia.

One Voice
01-15-2004, 03:57 PM
What a fruit cake you are.

FORD
01-15-2004, 04:40 PM
What an idiot YOU are. And trust me, I got bi-partisan support on that one.

One Voice
01-15-2004, 04:49 PM
Spoken like a true cunt. You and your bipartisan support can go fuck yourselves you
Fucking nut case.

FORD
01-15-2004, 04:54 PM
I think I just figured out who you are. How's the VCR repair business these days, Asshole?

One Voice
01-15-2004, 05:32 PM
At least ive got a job fuckhead.

FORD
01-15-2004, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by One Voice
At least ive got a job fuckhead.

So do it, but you have a point. Being employed IS a rarity these days, thanks to your friends in the Bush Criminal Empire. But what are you gonna do when they stop making video tapes. Won't even be able to blame that one on Junior :(

BigBadBrian
01-16-2004, 08:13 AM
Originally posted by FORD
Not unless I borrowed Ken Lay's lear jet from Bush and use it to travel back and forth from Saudi Arabia.

FORD, there is no damn way in the world you can convince me this OBL character is posting from Saudi Arabia.

BigBadBrian
01-16-2004, 08:20 AM
Originally posted by FORD
I think I just figured out who you are. How's the VCR repair business these days, Asshole?

I find it hard to believe you would be hassling someone over their job, FORD. If this individual, who I am unfamiliar with, does indeed fix VCR's, where is the shame in that?

Having been in the electronics, computer networking, and now database administration fields, I can tell you that one accomplished doing this will possess the skill and logic to be successful in any technically oriented job they choose to pursue. :gulp:

John Ashcroft
01-16-2004, 08:27 AM
And back to topic... Get ready lefties! If Dean's the best you've got to offer (although Kerry's making a comeback), you're making a Bush second term almost imminent.

Now, most of America thinks things are going great. Interesting that whenever this happens, you commies spend an awful lot of energy trying to convince us otherwise. Yep, prosperity for America is bad news for you. Let's be honest here, Europe with their socialist utopias also enjoy 10+% unemployment, dismal health care facilities, high suicide rates, and high alcoholism. Not to mention weak research and development, and weak economies.

Any of them would kill for what us Americans have got, and you clowns think we should emulate them.

Pink Spider
01-16-2004, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by John Ashcroft
Let's be honest here, Europe with their socialist utopias also enjoy 10+% unemployment, dismal health care facilities, high suicide rates, and high alcoholism. Not to mention weak research and development, and weak economies.

That must be why the Euro is killing the dollar.

But, at least we have the world's highest prision population. They can't beat us there. ;)

John Ashcroft
01-16-2004, 08:54 AM
So Pinky, tell me what's wrong with that? American manufacturers love the idea of a strong Euro.

Pink Spider
01-16-2004, 09:08 AM
A weak dollar is a sign of weak economy(at least by Wall Street corporate standards). I would think that you nationalist, right-wingers wouldn't want to be Europe's bitch. ;)

FORD
01-16-2004, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
FORD, there is no damn way in the world you can convince me this OBL character is posting from Saudi Arabia.

Check your PM ;)

FORD
01-16-2004, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
I find it hard to believe you would be hassling someone over their job, FORD. If this individual, who I am unfamiliar with, does indeed fix VCR's, where is the shame in that?

Having been in the electronics, computer networking, and now database administration fields, I can tell you that one accomplished doing this will possess the skill and logic to be successful in any technically oriented job they choose to pursue. :gulp:

Nah, I have no problems with what Alvin does for a living. I just brought that up to let him know I figured out who he was. The same dumbass who's been a pathetic whiny ass since the Pasture Dump days.

John Ashcroft
01-16-2004, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by Pink Spider
A weak dollar is a sign of weak economy(at least by Wall Street corporate standards). I would think that you nationalist, right-wingers wouldn't want to be Europe's bitch. ;)

Evidence of your complete lack of understanding on the subject, sweet-cheeks.

So I'll ask again. Aside of us being "Europe's bitch", what harm does a weak dollar do to American citizens?

Pink Spider
01-16-2004, 01:51 PM
So I'll ask again. Aside of us being "Europe's bitch", what harm does a weak dollar do to American citizens?"

Actually, that was the first time you asked, moron.

IF it stabilizes, it could help the manufacturing sector.

Although, there is the greater possibility of the dollar's collapse since it's happening with the largest trade deficit in its history and there may be no way to prop it up in time.

So, the complete lack of understanding is yours if you can't see how this will affect the average citizen.

John Ashcroft
01-16-2004, 01:55 PM
Nice try. It's obvious you don't even understand the article in which you ripped that off from.

How 'bout translating that there complicated statement so's us Conservative morons can understand it? I dare ya honey.

Pink Spider
01-16-2004, 02:31 PM
I ripped that off from an article? :rolleyes:

Do you try to be an absolute asshole on purpose or does it come naturally? Just wondering.

Conservative moron translation:

A weak dollar will raise inflation on imports and since the US manufacturing sector isn't halting outsourcing layoffs, recovery will get next to impossible. After the US can compete with China and India's wages, then we'll be talking about "recovery".

And if you're too stupid to understand that, then great. I expect no more from you. :)

Dave's PA Rental
01-16-2004, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by John Ashcroft
Nice try. It's obvious you don't even understand the article in which you ripped that off from.


Sounds like Mr. Ashcroft watched 'Goodwill Hunting' a few times too many, and got some of his ammo from a Matt Damon line...

(anyone else reminded of that scene from GWH when MD rips the sensitive pony-tail man a new one at the Haaaavad Bahhhh because he steals the opinions of an old school philosopher?.....Niche, I think...probably not.)

John Ashcroft
01-16-2004, 03:36 PM
Never seen it bubba, but I'll check it out (if the dude sounds like me, he's gotta be pretty cool...)

And sweet-cheeks, you still don't get it. But I'll humor you.

First, what the fuck's this mean?

"and since the US manufacturing sector isn't halting outsourcing layoffs, recovery will get next to impossible."

Come on now, why outsource and continue to pay local workers to do nothing?

OK, so let's analyze the entire statement, shall we?

Here it go:

"A weak dollar will raise inflation on imports and since the US manufacturing sector isn't halting outsourcing layoffs, recovery will get next to impossible. After the US can compete with China and India's wages, then we'll be talking about "recovery". "

I still don't get your argument darling, and neither do you. "Inflation" on imports actually helps American manufacturers (as I've previously mentioned), and outsourcing of American jobs isn't nearly as rampant as you commies claim (just more typical alarmist bullshit). Now, with a weak dollar, European goods (for instance, since we're comparing ourselves to the Euro) will be more expensive to the American consumer so they'll look for cheaper alternatives (I know, this is the part that bothers you). Those cheaper alternatives will include American goods (regardless if the actual manufacturing is done in India). Cash will stay in our system, and American companies will have more money to expand (resulting in construction, white-collar jobs, accompanying housing, walmarts, movie theaters, etc...) Also, Europeans will be able to get better deal on American goods (since the Euro is strong, they get more bang for their buck when buying American goods). Resulting in the same outcome I've described above.

It's really that simple. And it's proven economics darling. Yes, the D.U. instructs you good little commies to play the "outsourcing" angle, but it's as intellectually dishonest as any other idea your party dreams up.

And I stand with my original assessment of your economic prowess... You have none.

And yes, I work pretty hard at being an asshole if you must know.

John Ashcroft
01-17-2004, 11:50 AM
More crickets... I guess I should be getting used to this by now. Anything to add E.S.?

Steve Savicki
01-19-2004, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Nah, I have no problems with what Alvin does for a living. I just brought that up to let him know I figured out who he was. The same dumbass who's been a pathetic whiny ass since the Pasture Dump days.
Under what screen name?
Baby's on Fire from the old DLRarmy.com?

FORD
01-19-2004, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by Steve Savicki
Under what screen name?
Baby's on Fire from the old DLRarmy.com?

"Slash" at the old Army. "Robert Plant" at the Pasture Dump.

twonabomber
01-19-2004, 04:53 PM
oh, forget it.

diamondD
01-19-2004, 08:33 PM
How do you know it's him? Do you keep a database of IP addresses?

John Ashcroft
01-19-2004, 08:40 PM
Heh heh heh...

"It's a well known fact" that Ford looks up IPs on pretty much every poster. Even leaking a little tidbit of info on the poster from time to time. I didn't mind, but others may dude. Although it's just a DLR message board, so naturally no damage is done. I've pretty much layed out exactly who I am in real life at DiamondDLR.com, and yet no one has stolen my identity (yet...)

Interesting hobby though. Hell, I guess it's cool so you know exactly what kind of dudes to expect a challenge from.

FORD
01-19-2004, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by diamondD
How do you know it's him? Do you keep a database of IP addresses?

Nah, I suspected Alvin's particular brand of mental illness even before I looked up his IP this time around. You just can't conceal that kind of pathological hatred.

diamondD
01-19-2004, 09:33 PM
Case in point: Satan and Jesus ;)