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Seshmeister
09-01-2014, 10:11 PM
http://www.voltairenet.org/article185088.html


The F-35, the Scam of the Century

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The F-35 is the largest weapons program in history. This multi-role aircraft is built by Lockheed Martin with Northrop Grumman and BAE Systems as major partners.

It should equip the armies of Australia, Canada, Denmark, the United States, Israel, Italy, Japan, Norway, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom and Turkey for the next 40 years and replace the F-16, F-18 and F-22.

However, its production started while essential aeronautical software has not yet been invented. The defense industries of buyer states were left out in favor of the USA, without knowing whether this system will be delivered or not.

Since the launch of the project, its cost has varied ceaselessly, leading to the cancellation of various orders. Earlier this month, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) released a reassuring study, however based on figures already two years old. Simultaneously, the Department of Defense assured it would be cheaper to buy but more expensive to maintain.

According to an independent Canadian study by Professor Michael Byers for the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives and the Rideau Institute, the truth is much darker: in truth, no one can know the exact cost of an aircraft that has not been precisely designed. However, the 65 aircraft ordered by Canada would likely cost a staggering $ 1.5 billion USD per aircraft over 40 years (in 2007, the United States assured that the aircraft would not cost more than the F-18 and estimated its cost at about 377 million dollars each).

The following bar graph illustrates the increase in the cost estimates for Canada’s fleet of 65 over the past years.

Seshmeister
09-01-2014, 10:20 PM
Next time your government particularly the conservative guy tells you that we can't afford a social program, healthcare, it's a time of austerity, we need to cut public spending etc etc etc mention this fucking nonsense.

How stealthy do you need to be to bomb 'insurgents' in tents anyway and of course the Chinese, the only likely reason to have something like this against stole it a while ago.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/13/f-35-secrets-now-showing-chinas-stealth-fighter/?page=all

Seshmeister
09-01-2014, 10:27 PM
Even worse for Europeans is that the Eurofighter we already have is probably going to be better than the F-35 anyway.

Of course if the system wasn't corrupt whereby the 'defence' companies buy the politicians who then give them your money, the sensible thing which would have saved hundreds of billions would have been for the US to buy Eurofighters or even just keep using what they have.

How many US fighters or fighter bombers have been lost in recent years due to not being good enough compared to their opponents?

Kristy
09-01-2014, 10:39 PM
Next time your government particularly the conservative guy tells you that we can't afford a social program, healthcare, it's a time of austerity, we need to cut public spending etc etc etc mention this fucking nonsense.

How stealthy do you need to be to bomb 'insurgents' in tents anyway and of course the Chinese, the only likely reason to have something like this against stole it a while ago.
Stole it? More like sold one to them.
http://www.bloomberg.com/image/i4VGk0OJoox8.jpg
Piece of shit.

Seshmeister
09-01-2014, 10:53 PM
Just googled the cost of an F35.

https://www.f35.com/about/fast-facts/cost

The top answer made me laugh - it's clearly from Lockheed with all those billions you would hope they would at least get to the top of Google to reel in the gullible ELVIS sheep corporate shill types.

Anyhoo it says-


The most recently contracted unit costs for Low Rate Initial Production lot 7 (not including the engine) are:

F-35A: $98 million
F-35B: $104 million
F-35C: $116 million



Not including an engine?

How fucking useful is it without an engine?

Seshmeister
09-01-2014, 10:59 PM
The F-35 expenditure would be enough, one report calculated, to buy every homeless person in the United States a $664,000 house.

That's the kind of thing Jesus would do.

Call me a crazy conservative cunt but personally I would get them something a lot cheaper but enough to keep them safe and dry...

DONNIEP
09-01-2014, 11:04 PM
The F-35 expenditure would be enough, one report calculated, to buy every homeless person in the United States a $664,000 house.

That's the kind of thing Jesus would do.

Call me a crazy conservative cunt but personally I would get them something a lot cheaper but enough to keep them safe and dry...

And you really think they'd take care of it?? They'd flip it for crack money faster than Tyrone Biggums...

Nickdfresh
09-01-2014, 11:26 PM
You know why the F-35 was selected?

Really? :D


You have any idea? ;)

ELVIS
09-01-2014, 11:41 PM
The scam of the century is global warming and carbon tax...

Nickdfresh
09-02-2014, 12:01 AM
The scam of the century is global warming and carbon tax...

Or you convincing your wife's family you're not some unemployable, completely insane conspiracy theorist (yet gullible) jackoff before managing to marry her...

Nitro Express
09-02-2014, 02:45 AM
Stole it? More like sold one to them.
http://www.bloomberg.com/image/i4VGk0OJoox8.jpg
Piece of shit.

Yup. HW Bush opened Los Alamos to the Chinese. Go ask someone who has worked there. They will say just that.

Nitro Express
09-02-2014, 02:47 AM
The F-35 expenditure would be enough, one report calculated, to buy every homeless person in the United States a $664,000 house.

That's the kind of thing Jesus would do.

Call me a crazy conservative cunt but personally I would get them something a lot cheaper but enough to keep them safe and dry...

Sesh. The people who bought our political system and media don't care. Most the people in this country and in yours by the way, could dry up and die. In fact. That's what they want.

Nitro Express
09-02-2014, 02:55 AM
Droned fighters will be the future. The weak link is the pilot. They can only take so many G-Forces. A drone with no pilot could out fly a plane with a pilot. The F-35 is the product of charging the government as much as possible. I worked for Lockheed on an environmental cleanup project and they did just that. Didn't get the job done and were intentionally inefficient so they could charge more. That's the Lockheed way. Sad because it once was a great company. All I can say is the corruption is complete. With a broken congress and corrupt president, there is no regulation and the door is open.

Seshmeister
09-02-2014, 04:24 AM
The scam of the century is global warming and carbon tax...

What carbon tax, you don't even have one?

That scam is how in the US the greedy big corporations have been able to confuse easily led people to the point that even those whose homes are going to be literally under water in 10 years pretend it's not going to happen.

ELVIS
09-02-2014, 08:51 AM
Literally under water in ten years ????

Shaddup, retard...:rolleyes:

You're algore Jr.

Don't make me laugh out loud at your stupidity...

Angel
09-02-2014, 09:14 AM
Literally under water in ten years ????

Shaddup, retard...:rolleyes:

You're algore Jr.

Don't make me laugh out loud at your stupidity...
re·tard

noun

a mentally handicapped person (often used as a general term of abuse).

For a Christian, you sure are abusive! Wwjs???

ELVIS
09-02-2014, 09:24 AM
Oh my gosh...:rolleyes:

Go back to school...

You've learned nothing, so far....

vandeleur
09-02-2014, 09:26 AM
Oh my gosh...:rolleyes:

Go back to school...

You've learned nothing, so far....

And you are the judge of that now ?

ELVIS
09-02-2014, 09:30 AM
it's obvious...

Angel
09-02-2014, 09:31 AM
Oh my gosh...:rolleyes:

Go back to school...

You've learned nothing, so far....
I've learned you're a lying, racist, mentally unstable human being in need of serious help....

Stop paying the internet bill...that will help get you off the grid...

Angel
09-02-2014, 09:35 AM
it's obvious...
Really??? Enlighten me, oh wise one...

Kristy
09-02-2014, 09:45 AM
Or you convincing your wife's family you're not some unemployable, completely insane conspiracy theorist (yet gullible) jackoff before managing to marry her...

I'm going to go all out Trolvis here and say Jesus would have wanted it that way.

Nickdfresh
09-02-2014, 11:23 AM
The F-35 "Lightening II" won largely because the Boeing X-32 competitor was just fucking ugly! (even though in many respects it was probably more reliable)...
http://www.aviastar.org/pictures/usa/boeing_x-32.jpg

Nitro Express
09-02-2014, 12:16 PM
Literally under water in ten years ????

Shaddup, retard...:rolleyes:

You're algore Jr.

Don't make me laugh out loud at your stupidity...

Some say we are in a cooling trend and the pack ice is reforming. Al Gore's fear porn never came true. I think this global warming is becoming a hard sell. If you are worried about water rising, get a house boat.

Seshmeister
09-02-2014, 12:29 PM
Can we keep the climate change denial to the other 'fascinating' thread?