AC\DC announce new album

[Seshmeister]

http://www.acdc.com/us/news/new-album-out-december-2

http://www.acdc.com/sites/acdc/files/imagecache/600wide_max/rockorbust_0.jpg

‘Rock or Bust,’ the highly anticipated new studio album from AC/DC, will be released December 2, 2014. Featuring 11 new tracks and recorded in Spring 2014 at Warehouse Studio in Vancouver, BC, 'Rock or Bust' finds AC/DC once again working with producer Brendan O’Brien and mixer Mike Fraser.

“Rock or Bust” is the first AC/DC album in the band’s 41 year history without founding member Malcolm Young on the recordings. Earlier this year AC/DC released a statement explaining that due to illness, Malcolm would be taking a break from the band. Unfortunately, due to the nature of Malcolm’s condition, he will not be returning to the band. AC/DC will undertake a world tour in support of ‘Rock or Bust’ in 2015. Stevie Young, nephew of founding members Angus and Malcolm Young, plays rhythm guitar on 'Rock or Bust' and will accompany the band on tour.

Starting September 27, Turner Sports will provide fans a sneak peek of the new track ‘Play Ball’ as part of the 2014 Major League Baseball Postseason campaign. Check back here for more.

[DLR Bridge]

Bummer about Malcolm alright. Seems as though his mystery ailment has forced him into retirement.

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Too sad Malcolm's health problems are very serious... :(

The others lost no time before recording that new album... I won't buy it, maybe just give it a listen, but as usual I'll hate Brian Johnson's old granny -like squeaks.

[Kristy]

'Rock or Bust' finds AC/DC once again working with producer Brendan O’Brien and mixer Mike Fraser.

Ghey. Even without Malcolm this will be 'Black Ice' part II. These friggin' kangaroo humping rock stars. Time to get out of the sandbox and let others play.

What's next? Steve Perry joins Billy Squier and goes on tour with Donnie Iris?

[Nitro Express]

Getting old and years of hard living. A lot of these bands are going to hang it up due to old age and health problems. AC/DC started in the 1970's. They rocked for many years. All good things eventually come to an end.

[Nitro Express]

Ghey. Even without Malcolm this will be 'Black Ice' part II. These friggin' kangaroo humping rock stars. Time to get out of the sandbox and let others play.

What's next? Steve Perry joins Billy Squier and goes on tour with Donnie Iris?

Agreed. Who wants to see a bunch of old men past their prime trying to rock? After a certain age it gets silly. Please don't be wearing the school boy uniform at age 70 Angus.

[DLR Bridge]

Time to get out of the sandbox and let others play.


Unless there's a band out there called "Others", I'm not sure I know of a new band who deserves kick sand around.

[DONNIEP]

What's next? Steve Perry joins Billy Squier and goes on tour with Donnie Iris?

That would be the greatest tour E V E R!!!!

[DLR Bridge]

That would be the greatest tour E V E R!!!!

The bill could be:

Steve Perry
Billy Squire
Donnie Iris
Saga
Loverboy
Quarterflash
Chilliwack
Sammy Haggar

[DONNIEP]

I don't know what Chiliwack is so I guess I'll take a dump and load up on beer during their show. Then it's 5150 Timmmmeeeee!!!!!

[FORD]

I don't know what Chiliwack is so I guess I'll take a dump and load up on beer during their show. Then it's 5150 Timmmmeeeee!!!!!

Chilliwack were a Canadian band from the early 80s. Named after their home town which is about a half hour east of Vancouver BC. Heard them a lot on CFOX FM, which I used to pick up easily on the radio back then, even though I'm 200 miles or so south of there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frhkavhoFjs

[DLR Bridge]

I don't know what Chiliwack is so I guess I'll take a dump and load up on beer during their show. Then it's 5150 Timmmmeeeee!!!!!

I remember when I first got MTV, I saw a video from them about a thousand times. I have no clue what the song was called, but a piece of it is permanently lodged in my cranium.

[DONNIEP]

Chilliwack were a Canadian band from the early 80s. Named after their home town which is about a half hour east of Vancouver BC. Heard them a lot on CFOX FM, which I used to pick up easily on the radio back then, even though I'm 200 miles or so south of there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frhkavhoFjs

Finally - Ford posts something good instead of those terdy punk songs I hate!!

And yeah, now I remember this band. Or this song anyway.

[DLR Bridge]

Hmmm. The one I'm thinking of had Gone in the chorus, but that wasn't it.

[FORD]

Some of the punk bands out of Vancouver at that time were a lot better than Chilliwack......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twSREBowTwQ

[FORD]

Hmmm. The one I'm thinking of had Gone in the chorus, but that wasn't it.

Probably this one.....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y4CI-L7rZ4

[DLR Bridge]

Ugh. That's it. Took America by storm with that one. :hee:

[DONNIEP]

Probably this one.....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y4CI-L7rZ4

Jesus, I still sing the chorus all the time and I had no idea idea what it was from, lol. Damn Ford, you're on a roll today. Now, don't fuck it up with some stupid Misfits song.

:biggrin:

[DONNIEP]

Speaking of Saga, apparently they can still rock:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMFcfRmG9tU

[FORD]

Jesus, I still sing the chorus all the time and I had no idea idea what it was from, lol. Damn Ford, you're on a roll today. Now, don't fuck it up with some stupid Misfits song.

:biggrin:

Why would I post a Misfits song here? They weren't Canadians.

Now, on the other hand......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=temABKKRZcA

[DONNIEP]

Why would I post a Misfits song here? They weren't Canadians.[/video]

Because you're a heavy handed mod and you're trying to ruin my life!! :biggrin:

[DONNIEP]

Great, another punk song that all my skater friends listened to all the time.

[FORD]

Because you're a heavy handed mod and you're trying to ruin my life!! :biggrin:

Yeah, right..... the irony here is that (aside from killing spambots) I've probably used my "mod superpowers" a lot less with the orange nametag than I ever did with the old blue one. Might have to move a thread once a week or so, but that's about it.

[DONNIEP]

Yeah, right..... the irony here is that (aside from killing spambots) I've probably used my "mod superpowers" a lot less with the orange nametag than I ever did with the old blue one. Might have to move a thread once a week or so, but that's about it.

Inconvenient truth. Blah blah blah.

[FORD]

Inconvenient truth. Blah blah blah.

President Gore's excellent book and movie have nothing to do with this thread. :gulp:

[DONNIEP]

President Gore's excellent book and movie have nothing to do with this thread. :gulp:

No, but I know how you love it so I had to toss it out there.

[cadaverdog]

President Gore's excellent book and movie have nothing to do with this thread.
The plane boss, the plane.

[binnie]

The thing about AC/DC is that I won't look forward to this and I know I won't particularly enjoy it, but I'll still buy it nonetheless....

[ToraToraTora]

It's about TITS apparently
12113

snippet of "Play Ball"

[FORD]

The thing about AC/DC is that I won't look forward to this and I know I won't particularly enjoy it, but I'll still buy it nonetheless....

Ac/Dc without Malcolm seems about as pointless as the Stones without Keef. Especially since their roles in the bands are pretty much the same.

[Kristy]

The bill could be:

Quarterflash
Chilliwack


Um, who?
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/080/6/f/geoff_peterson_by_hot293wildcat-d7b3xt7.png

[cadaverdog]

Ac/Dc without Malcolm seems about as pointless as the Stones without Keef. Especially since their roles in the bands are pretty much the same.
I hate to sound like you but AC/DC without Bon Scott was pointless as anything more than a cover band anyway. I thought they were pretty decent with Brian at first but then I started noticing every song sounded about the same as the others from Back In Black on.

[DLR Bridge]

Um, who?

T'was my point to burry Hags beneath some '80s schlock.

Has anyone seen that post at the VHND about the anniversary of the VH parachute-in show at Anaheim? Hagar was ahead of them on that bill. Priceless how dismissive critics were of his blasé nothingness music and show.

[DLR Bridge]

The thing about AC/DC is that I won't look forward to this and I know I won't particularly enjoy it, but I'll still buy it nonetheless....

You must not have kids yet, am I right? :)

I'm lucky if I can pick up something I want these days, much less, something I know I might not like.

[Angel]

Hmmm. The one I'm thinking of had Gone in the chorus, but that wasn't it.
My Girl (gone gone gone).

"Gone gone gone she's been gone so long she's been gone gone gone gone so long". Repeat...



Chilliwack were a Canadian band from the early 80s. Named after their home town which is about a half hour east of Vancouver BC. Heard them a lot on CFOX FM, which I used to pick up easily on the radio back then, even though I'm 200 miles or so south of there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frhkavhoFjs
Maybe early 80's for you...

I consider them a 70's band. Their debut album was in 1970. Lot of great childhood memories in those songs. Thanks for the trip down memory lane. :)

[twonabomber]

The bill could be:

Steve Perry
Billy Squire
Donnie Iris
Saga
Loverboy
Quarterflash
Chilliwack
Sammy Haggar

As long as Hagar opens, so we all can show up late.

[DLR Bridge]

Yeah, that was the plan.
:fuhagar4:

[cadaverdog]

I had to back track quite aways to see how Chilliwack got into an AC/DC thread. I heard the first song (My Girl) before but I couldn't have named the band who played it. They have what I call the MTV sound. The songs sound ok if you're distracted by the videos but they don't cut it by themselves.

[FORD]

My Girl (gone gone gone).

"Gone gone gone she's been gone so long she's been gone gone gone gone so long". Repeat...



Maybe early 80's for you...

I consider them a 70's band. Their debut album was in 1970. Lot of great childhood memories in those songs. Thanks for the trip down memory lane. :)

Really, they were around that long? Of course I didn't own an FM radio until about 1977 (just in time to discover punk rock, Van Halen and - in interest of the topic - Ac/Dc) so I wouldn't have heard anything they did before then anyway. And I don't think I had my Frankenstein antenna setup that picked up CFOX until a couple years after that. So for some reason, I always thought Chilliwack and Loverboy started out around the same time.

[ashstralia]

I have learned something here today. 'Chilliwack' are probably the most retarded talentless band I never knew existed.

Black Ice is ok, not sure we needed part deux.

[cadaverdog]

'Chilliwack' are probably the most retarded talentless band I never knew existed.
There's probably thousands of retarded talentless band you never knew existed. Have you ever heard of The GOAT? The Goat makes Chilliwack look like The Beatles.

[Hardrock69]

That's it then.

This is going to be their last tour.

I will have to see multiple shows.

[vaijuju]

http://youtu.be/KG-RntPs-MA

[Angel]

I had to back track quite aways to see how Chilliwack got into an AC/DC thread. I heard the first song (My Girl) before but I couldn't have named the band who played it. They have what I call the MTV sound. The songs sound ok if you're distracted by the videos but they don't cut it by themselves.
The MTV years were close to the end. I remember when those songs came out and wondering wtf...They were a 70's band... "Crazy Talk" and " Laying in the Arms of Mary" were staples at every high school dance...

"At their best, Chilliwack was the finest Canadian rock band, outrocking BTO and outwriting Burton Cummings. But a lack of consistency kept it from international success."

[DLR Bridge]

http://youtu.be/KG-RntPs-MA

The same old chords and slow boots'n pants'n boots'n pants drum beat just don't do it for me anymore. I like their more riff oriented tunes like "That's The Way I Wanna Rock 'N' Roll".

[redozzman]

Ha Ha, not sure why but this song reminds me of "Finish what you started"... Brian Johnson sounds eerily similar to lame:puke:gar!!

[Nitro Express]

The best true compliment I ever read about AC/DC was Eddie Van Halen saying they had to follow AC/DC at the Day on the Green in Oakland. Ed was on the side of the stage watching the audience bopping up and down. Bon Scott in full control. Ed was shitting his pants wondering how Van Halen were ever going to follow these guys. VH was blowing other bands away then and were fully aware that they were doing it. AC/DC intimidated the shit out of Ed Van Halen and probably the only band to ever have done so.

[cadaverdog]

"At their best, Chilliwack was the finest Canadian rock band, outrocking BTO and outwriting Burton Cummings. But a lack of consistency kept it from international success."
Did you forget about Rush? That seems to happen a lot with Canadian bands. Triumph and April Wine had some success too but they never made it big internationally either. It happens to American bands too but a lot more American bands make it mainly because there's a lot more American bands.

[cadaverdog]

The same old chords and slow boots'n pants'n boots'n pants drum beat just don't do it for me anymore.
That's why I prefer the Bon Scott era music.

[Nitro Express]

Did you forget about Rush? That seems to happen a lot with Canadian bands. Triumph and April Wine had some success too but they never made it big internationally either. It happens to American bands too but a lot more American bands make it mainly because there's a lot more American bands.

Amazing Rush gets forgotten. They pretty much have had a non-stop career since 1974. The thing is the Canadian market didn't give them the time of day. It was radio stations in the US who gave Rush air play and made them stars.

[Nitro Express]

That's why I prefer the Bon Scott era music.

AC/DC was an attention getter in the early days. They had a unique sound and look. Where in the hell did these guys come from. They look goofy but holy hell do they rock!

It was like Cheap Trick. You had the goofy looking guitar player but the goofiness worked and the songs were good.

[chuckjitsu]

I was disappointed by Black Ice, so I'm taking much more of a wait and see approach with this one. I didn't think BI was bad, just lacking...something. Kick? Fire? I don't know. I do know that the last time I listened to it was like 3 weeks after it was released.

[Seshmeister]

Amazing Rush gets forgotten. They pretty much have had a non-stop career since 1974. The thing is the Canadian market didn't give them the time of day. It was radio stations in the US who gave Rush air play and made them stars.

Rush are probably bigger now in terms of live attendance than they have ever been in their 40 year career.

[cadaverdog]

Rush are probably bigger now in terms of live attendance than they have ever been in their 40 year career.
Because they can still get out and tour and sound damn good doing it. The competition ain't what it used to be. I saw them in San Diego in 83 or 84. One of the best concerts I ever attended.

[Hardrock69]

I will buy this just to support the band.

Sure, they have their millions. Over 200 million albums sold.

But they are worth supporting. Whatever it is...10 or 15 bucks....I may only listen to it once....but they never sold out.

[Seshmeister]

Because they can still get out and tour and sound damn good doing it. The competition ain't what it used to be. I saw them in San Diego in 83 or 84. One of the best concerts I ever attended.

It helps them hugely that they were never cool or sexy and never relied on jumping off drum risers or even the voice of their singer.

All of this plus keeping consistently keeping their original members, developing over time and just plain relentless hard work explains their success in their Autumn years.

[cadaverdog]

It helps them hugely that they were never cool or sexy and never relied on jumping off drum risers or even the voice of their singer.

They were cool. Geddy was at least. I think they really grew in popularity when Geddy did this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BFPt001PYU

[Angel]

Did you forget about Rush? That seems to happen a lot with Canadian bands. Triumph and April Wine had some success too but they never made it big internationally either. It happens to American bands too but a lot more American bands make it mainly because there's a lot more American bands.
Did you not see quote marks there? Rolling Stone said that. April Wine was HUGE across Canada. The US market was tough to break into.

We have some fine bands right now too. Seems anytime I hear something I like on the local rock station. Unfortunately, I can never remember their freaking names...

[Mr. Vengeance]

Very sad for Malcolm...



>>>It may be that dementia is claiming another giant, this time a musical one.

AC/DC co-founder, guitarist and songwriter Malcolm Young, whose retirement from the band was announced on Wednesday, has been moved into full-time care in a nursing home facility in Sydney's eastern suburbs specialising in dementia, sources connected to the Young family have said.


AC/DC band members, from left, Brian Johnson, Phil Rudd, Angus Young, Malcolm Young and Cliff Williams in 2000. Photo: Getty Images

The home is understood to be Lulworth House in Elizabeth Bay, the same facility that is home to Gough Whitlam and, until his recent death, Neville Wran, who was afflicted with dementia in his last years.

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The Young family connection said: "If you were in the room with [Malcolm Young] and walked out, then came back in one minute later, he wouldn't remember who you are. He has a complete loss of short-term memory. His wife, Linda, has put him in full-time care."

Both AC/DC's record company, Sony, and their label, publisher and home for more than 40 years, Albert Music, were approached for comment.


Malcolm Young, right, with his brother Angus, pictured here in 2000. Photo: Paul White

While the announcement of Young's retirement from AC/DC, the band he formed and helped turn into the biggest Australian rock act of all time, has been inevitable for some months, it hasn't lessened the disappointment. Nor the sense of an era ending.

AC/DC have sold more than 200 million albums, feature at or near the top of highest grossing tour lists whenever they play live and were the standard bearers for Australian music years before the likes of INXS, Kylie Minogue or 5 Seconds of Summer.

The sound of pub rock, the defining mainstream sound of Australian music in the 1970s and '80s, could be said to have emerged from the stages and the studios AC/DC inhabited.


Click for more photos

AC/DC over the years

Early days: AC/DC in 1975.










..
Young, the 61-year-old rhythm guitarist and solid centre of the songs behind his flamboyant, lead guitarist younger brother, Angus, officially resigned his position in AC/DC months after returning to Australia from Europe where he had been living.

The first official word on what was assumed to be a serious and debilitating, but still undisclosed, illness, was in April when it was confirmed that Young would not be participating in the recording of the next AC/DC album, which will be called Rock Or Bust and is due out in late November.

In his place during the recording sessions in a Vancouver studio has been his nephew, Steve.


AC/DC, with Malcolm Young at lower left. Photo: Guido Karp

In an announcement from the band's management this week, it was revealed that Steve will join Angus Young, frontman Brian Johnson and drummer Phil Rudd on stage when the band embarks on another massive world tour in 2015.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/acdcs-malcolm-young-reportedly-in-care-for-dementia-in-sydney-20140925-10m1hs.html#ixzz3ENvFl9kX

[FORD]

AC/DC was an attention getter in the early days. They had a unique sound and look. Where in the hell did these guys come from. They look goofy but holy hell do they rock!

It was like Cheap Trick. You had the goofy looking guitar player but the goofiness worked and the songs were good.

And on one occasion they even combined their goofiness and it still sounded good (despite the shitty sound quality here. Better versions exist) .....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOaGNU4aPS0

[cadaverdog]

Did you not see quote marks there? Rolling Stone said that. April Wine was HUGE across Canada. The US market was tough to break into.

I thought you were quoting yourself. Not really. I must have missed them.
April Wine was pretty big in So Cal but I'm not sure about the rest of the country. I saw them live at the L A Coliseum in 79. VH was there too. They started getting a bit of airplay on local FM radio after that but by the mid 80s they just disappeared from the airwaves.

Here was the lineup of stars to perform at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum for the 1979 California World Music Festival:


April 7:
Cheap Trick
Toto
REO Speedwagon
Journey
Outlaws
Ted Nugent
Head East
April Wine
Mahogany Rush
Fabulous Poodles


April 8:
Aerosmith
Van Halen
UFO
Toto
Mother's Finest
Eddie Money
April Wine
Boomtown Rats
Brownsville Station

Cheech and Chong performed both days too.

[Angel]

April Wine is another band I consider a 70's band...and another walk down memory lane, lol. They started in 69.

[cadaverdog]

April Wine is another band I consider a 70's band...and another walk down memory lane, lol. They started in 69.
Never heard of them until I saw that show. Kind of forgot about them until I heard them again in 82 after Nature Of The Beast. This is the first song I remember from April Wine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DkJUOsxkko

[Nitro Express]

April Wine is another band I consider a 70's band...and another walk down memory lane, lol. They started in 69.

One of the first bands I saw. I saw them with Loverboy probably around 1979. Old school general admission. Pot and booze being passed around. No real security to be found. None of the shit of security going up and down isles shining a flashlight on you.

[Nitro Express]

Very sad for Malcolm...



>>>It may be that dementia is claiming another giant, this time a musical one.

AC/DC co-founder, guitarist and songwriter Malcolm Young, whose retirement from the band was announced on Wednesday, has been moved into full-time care in a nursing home facility in Sydney's eastern suburbs specialising in dementia, sources connected to the Young family have said.


AC/DC band members, from left, Brian Johnson, Phil Rudd, Angus Young, Malcolm Young and Cliff Williams in 2000. Photo: Getty Images

The home is understood to be Lulworth House in Elizabeth Bay, the same facility that is home to Gough Whitlam and, until his recent death, Neville Wran, who was afflicted with dementia in his last years.

Advertisement

The Young family connection said: "If you were in the room with [Malcolm Young] and walked out, then came back in one minute later, he wouldn't remember who you are. He has a complete loss of short-term memory. His wife, Linda, has put him in full-time care."

Both AC/DC's record company, Sony, and their label, publisher and home for more than 40 years, Albert Music, were approached for comment.


Malcolm Young, right, with his brother Angus, pictured here in 2000. Photo: Paul White

While the announcement of Young's retirement from AC/DC, the band he formed and helped turn into the biggest Australian rock act of all time, has been inevitable for some months, it hasn't lessened the disappointment. Nor the sense of an era ending.

AC/DC have sold more than 200 million albums, feature at or near the top of highest grossing tour lists whenever they play live and were the standard bearers for Australian music years before the likes of INXS, Kylie Minogue or 5 Seconds of Summer.

The sound of pub rock, the defining mainstream sound of Australian music in the 1970s and '80s, could be said to have emerged from the stages and the studios AC/DC inhabited.


Click for more photos

AC/DC over the years

Early days: AC/DC in 1975.










..
Young, the 61-year-old rhythm guitarist and solid centre of the songs behind his flamboyant, lead guitarist younger brother, Angus, officially resigned his position in AC/DC months after returning to Australia from Europe where he had been living.

The first official word on what was assumed to be a serious and debilitating, but still undisclosed, illness, was in April when it was confirmed that Young would not be participating in the recording of the next AC/DC album, which will be called Rock Or Bust and is due out in late November.

In his place during the recording sessions in a Vancouver studio has been his nephew, Steve.


AC/DC, with Malcolm Young at lower left. Photo: Guido Karp

In an announcement from the band's management this week, it was revealed that Steve will join Angus Young, frontman Brian Johnson and drummer Phil Rudd on stage when the band embarks on another massive world tour in 2015.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/acdcs-malcolm-young-reportedly-in-care-for-dementia-in-sydney-20140925-10m1hs.html#ixzz3ENvFl9kX

I wonder if he had a stroke. Sometimes that causes early demensia. All I can say is I've seen spouses deal with it and it just eventually burns them out. You have to end up putting them in a home. It's all you can do.

[cadaverdog]

I wonder if he had a stroke. Sometimes that causes early demensia. All I can say is I've seen spouses deal with it and it just eventually burns them out. You have to end up putting them in a home. It's all you can do.
Here's your answer. Paragraph #4

Sydney (AFP) - Malcolm Young, one of the founding members of veteran Australian rockers AC/DC, has dementia and is being treated in an aged care facility in Sydney, reports said on Friday.

The high-voltage group, one of the biggest grossing bands of all time, announced on Thursday that the rhythm guitarist had retired after 41 years due to unspecified health issues.

But they said the group would continue, with an upcoming new album, "Rock or Bust", due out in December and world tour planned for next year.

The Australian newspaper said Young, 61, suffered a stroke last year while the Sydney Morning Herald reported that he has dementia and was now a full-time patient at an exclusive Sydney care home.

"If you were in the room with (Young) and walked out then came back in one minute later he wouldn't remember who you are," the Herald's veteran music writer Bernard Zuel cited a Young "family connection" as saying.

"He has a complete loss of short-term memory. His wife Linda has put him in full-time care."

View galleryMalcolm Young of AC/DC's 1959 Gretsch White Falcon …
Malcolm Young of AC/DC's 1959 Gretsch White Falcon guitar is shown at Hard Rock Cafe, Times Squa …
Young and his brother Angus founded the band in Sydney in 1973, and it has gone on to sell more than 200 million albums.

In announcing a new record on Thursday, AC/DC said Malcolm Young would not be returning to the lineup after he took a break earlier this year, with his nephew Stevie Young taking his place.

"Unfortunately, due to the nature of Malcolm's condition, he will not be returning to the band," they said on their website.

"AC/DC will undertake a world tour in support of 'Rock or Bust' in 2015. Stevie Young, nephew of founding members Angus and Malcolm Young, plays rhythm guitar on 'Rock or Bust' and will accompany the band on tour."

News of Young's illness in April sparked rumours that the band could fold, but drummer Phil Rudd said last month: "It'll never happen. Angus will never retire and as long as Angus never retires I won't retire either."

[Jérôme Frenchise]

I heard about Malcolm's dementia this morning on France Inter radio. The silly speaker evoked 1979 and then she played "Highway to Hell" live with Johnson on vocals... Stupid. :mad:

Poor Malcolm... Maybe the aftermath of long-time heavy boozing...

I wasn't surprized nor disappointed with the lack of interest of "Black Ice", as they had already released "Fly on the wall" and "Who made who" in particular, and even "Ball breaker" and "Stiff upper lip" were also full of boring gap fillers.

[Angel]

One of the first bands I saw. I saw them with Loverboy probably around 1979. Old school general admission. Pot and booze being passed around. No real security to be found. None of the shit of security going up and down isles shining a flashlight on you.
One of the first I ever saw too. With Rush I think, somewhere around 76...

[Von Halen]

Does the Australian Government pay all his medical bills?

What if this ever happens to Ozzy. Will the Limey Government pay all of his hospital bills?

They should have Malcolm review the album. He will have a totally unbiased opinion.

[Nitro Express]

Rush are probably bigger now in terms of live attendance than they have ever been in their 40 year career.

I saw them on The Signals Tour and the venue was packed. I saw them a few years ago and the venue was packed. I don't know if the current attendance is larger. I think the venues now hold more people now but Rush is still filling the seats. They are always writing news songs. Some good some so so but they are always creating. Then they play their old songs very well live still. Niel was joking about YYZ and Tom Sawyer asking why they wrote such hard songs to play. Niel said they are still a real challenge to play well.

I think the bottom line is Rush still gives a damn. They aren't sloppy. They work hard to make sure they still play well. Geddy can't wail like he used to and they have gotten quite goofy in their old age but they still play well live and they are rock legends. People still want to see them.

[Nitro Express]

Does the Australian Government pay all his medical bills?

What if this ever happens to Ozzy. Will the Limey Government pay all of his hospital bills?

They should have Malcolm review the album. He will have a totally unbiased opinion.

Who knows. I do like the way Australia does it's social security. Instead of having your pay garnished by the government and nothing there to collect when you finally reach age 65 because the politicians stole it, you invest in private funds of your choice. Under Australian law you have to put so much away but they give you a choice on where you are going to invest it.

Right now in the US they are probably going to have to bump the collection age of Social Security to age 75 or even older to keep the system solvent. It still really boils down to the government in reality. What keeps the private financial companies halfway honest is government regulation. Once you have the regulators bought off the private financial firms will steal your money. Unless you want to barge in and start blowing heads off yourself yelling "I want my damn money!" without the regulatory arm of the government you are screwed.

I blame the citizens. Too many are stupid and don't pay attention. The politicians have really mastered the game of pacifying the public. It's why they want more unskilled immigrants. More captive voters. People on welfare do not fight the hand that feeds them.

[Seshmeister]

I wonder if he had a stroke. Sometimes that causes early demensia. All I can say is I've seen spouses deal with it and it just eventually burns them out. You have to end up putting them in a home. It's all you can do.

How many spouses have you went through? :)

[Seshmeister]

What if this ever happens to Ozzy.

How would we diagnose that?

[Nitro Express]

How many spouses have you went through? :)

I still have the first one. I have a cousin who's husband had a stroke and he had to go into a nursing home. They can't do anything on their own. Some go into panic attacks if you go anywhere. Their minds are gone. Someone has to be there all the time and with normal people having to make a living, they have no option but to put them in a home.

[Seshmeister]

Way to miss a joke... :)

[Seshmeister]

.....

[Von Halen]

.....

That was awesome!

[cadaverdog]

How many spouses have you went through? :)
I'm far from being a grammar nazi ( I had to look up the proper spelling of grammar) but shouldn't that be gone instead of went?
BTW I got it. Maybe he does have a little dementia going.:hee:

[mh5150]

The bill could be:

Steve Perry
Billy Squire
Donnie Iris
Saga
Loverboy
Quarterflash
Chilliwack
Sammy Haggar
The Outfield will open....

[Never was]

.....


Always wondered what ACDC would have been if Hagar joined them instead of VH. Thanks now I know. Going to bleach my brain now and hope to erase this memory and for that matter anything else Hagar has been part of.

[So this is love]

Always wondered what ACDC would have been if Hagar joined them instead of VH. Thanks now I know. Going to bleach my brain now and hope to erase this memory and for that matter anything else Hagar has been part of.

It would have saved Van Halen lol...Hagar was an alternative for Eddie at the time and they made tons of cash and thats how they were thinking at WB......it was just business and I'm sure Dave was just fine about it all....Cheers!

[FORD]

Those guys ain't too bad, but I still say Hayseed Dixie did Redneck Ac/Dc better.......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkU2xT5RT9U

[Von Halen]

Drummer Phil Rudd charged with trying to procure a murder!

[Angel]

Drummer Phil Rudd charged with trying to procure a murder!
Pics or it didn't happen. :D

[Seshmeister]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-29928698

6 November 2014 Last updated at 02:38

AC/DC drummer Phil Rudd on New Zealand murder plot charge

The drummer of the heavy metal group AC/DC, Phil Rudd, has been charged by New Zealand police with attempting to arrange a murder.

Mr Rudd, who was born in Australia, will also face charges of possessing the drugs methamphetamine and cannabis, and of threatening to kill.

The musician's house in Taraunga, on New Zealand's North Island, was raided on Thursday morning.

AC/DC is due to release a new album later this year.

The band's guitarist, Malcolm Young, was recently diagnosed with dementia.

Mr Rudd, 60, was kicked out of the band in 1983 and rejoined in 1994.

A police official quoted by the SunLive news website said the information that led to the raid on the house was provided by a member of the public.

[DONNIEP]

Just another reason why EVERY drug on the planet should be legalized...

[DONNIEP]

And I'll just go ahead and toss it out there - yes, most meth/pot heads are outstanding members of society. I know. They ALL do nothing but contribute to the greater good and have all sorts of great ideas. Right up until they get all methed out and decide to KILL YOU.

[Satan]

Pot and meth are not even remotely comparable. One is a relatively harmless plant that my Former Employer created. The other is so destructive I won't even allow it in Hell. (not to mention a meth lab explosion in this heat would be a VERY bad thing)

[DONNIEP]

Pot and meth are not even remotely comparable. One is a relatively harmless plant that my Former Employer created. The other is so destructive I won't even allow it in Hell. (not to mention a meth lab explosion in this heat would be a VERY bad thing)

Says you. Ask the meth heads and they'd tell you it should be just as legal as beer. I myself have enjoyed the mary jane many times. But...you can't have it both ways. I say this one's bad, you say this one's good, who decides? The people? Hahahahahah! The trailer park in town would vote for Proposition Meth at a shocking level.

Again, you can't pick and choose the dope that gets legalized, even though half the country is. I used to love cocaine and I NEVER suffered any ill effects. So why can't I go out and buy the good shit, legally?

[Seshmeister]

I don't think anyone here has enough information to comment on whether he should be prosecuted or not at this point.

Why a multi-millionaire drummer rock star would need to try and arrange a murder does seem a bit weird though and instinctively you assume that it was just druggy paranoid rambling BS but who knows...?

[DONNIEP]

I don't think anyone here has enough information to comment on whether he should be prosecuted or not at this point.

Why a multi-millionaire drummer rock star would need to try and arrange a murder does seem a bit weird though and instinctively you assume that it was just druggy paranoid rambling BS but who knows...?

Well it certainly couldn't be the drugs. Because drugs is good!!!

[Satan]

Says you. Ask the meth heads and they'd tell you it should be just as legal as beer. I myself have enjoyed the mary jane many times. But...you can't have it both ways. I say this one's bad, you say this one's good, who decides? The people? Hahahahahah! The trailer park in town would vote for Proposition Meth at a shocking level.

Again, you can't pick and choose the dope that gets legalized, even though half the country is. I used to love cocaine and I NEVER suffered any ill effects. So why can't I go out and buy the good shit, legally?

I say the standard should be whether or not it exists in nature. Pot is a plant. Beer is made from plants. Cocaine and opium are plants too, but that should probably be somewhat restricted. Maybe a prescription model.

I just heard something about shrooms being used to treat depression on HellRadio. Think that's a most unholy idea. Nobody needs that meth garbage for anything, and if all the natural drugs were at the very least de-criminalized, and in the case of weed & shrooms outright legal, I don't think anybody would want to use it anymore.

"Breaking Bad" might have been great fiction, but the reality of meth is far worse.

[DONNIEP]

I say the standard should be whether or not it exists in nature... Pot is a plant. Beer is made from plants. Cocaine...plant(s) too, but that should probably be somewhat restricted. Maybe a prescription model.

Okay, you won me over. Where can I get my 'scrip for blow? And the shit had BETTER make me gag AND taste like diesel smells or I'm gonna be pissed.

[DONNIEP]

Wait a minute...I see what you did here. You used the Devilly Mind Trick on me. All the times I used cocaine, I never killed anybody, ripped anybody off, or died. Well, there was that one time that I thought I was dead but it turned out ok. So why shouldn't I be able to go to the beer store down the road, buy a case or two and a righteous bag of blow and burn through a weekend? Why should I have to have a prescription? IF my prescription can say "Three kilos of blow to be snorted over the next two weekends, as needed. Refills require authorization." then I'm good with it. But you wanna restrict me to some arbitrary amount of blow?? I think not.

Recreational use has a different definition depending on who you are.

[Nickdfresh]

dirty deeds, done dirt cheap!

[Satan]

Or.... done with sheep?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFzgYeUN6iQ

[DONNIEP]

And I actually could care less. I just figured Ford, I mean Satan needed someone to argue with, seeing as how Elvis is kinda gone now.

[Angel]

Well it certainly couldn't be the drugs. Because drugs is good!!!
I've been beaten by drunks...never by a pothead...alcohol is one of the worst drugs on the planet, imo.

[DONNIEP]

I've been beaten by drunks...never by a pothead...alcohol is one of the worst drugs on the planet, imo.

Don't tell anybody...but I agree. I was just killing time playing Devil's Advocate.

[Seshmeister]

I say the standard should be whether or not it exists in nature. Pot is a plant. Beer is made from plants. Cocaine and opium are plants too, but that should probably be somewhat restricted. Maybe a prescription model.


The 'natural' argument is often used and you see it all the time in advertising but it's built on the flawed logic that there aren't thousands of natural things that kill us.

There are mushrooms that will kill you.

These things are all natural.



Sammy Hagar exists in nature...

[Seshmeister]

Drummer Phil faces up to 10 years in jail if convicted of attempting to procure murder of 2 men



AC/DC drummer Phil Rudd has appeared in a New Zealand court charged with attempting to procure the murder of two men.

The 60-year-old was arrested early this morning when his home in Tauranga was raided by police, acting on information received from a member of the public. The alleged offences are said to have taken place between September 25 and 26 this year.

He later entered no plea at Tauranga District Court to the main charge, plus additional charges of possession of methamphetamine, possession of cannabis and threatening to kill. If found guilty, he could face a jail sentence of up to 10 years.

Investigating officers have named the two intended victims and the person who was to carry out the killings, but the information was suppressed by Judge Louis Bidois.

Rudd was released on bail and will return to court in three weeks, Stuff.co.nz reported. He made no statement as he left the building.

The drummer became the subject of speculation when he failed to appear for a video shoot in London last month, ahead of the release of AC/DC’s 16th album Rock Or Bust on December 1. The band later released a press photo that didn’t feature Rudd, but offered no explanation. Frontman Brian Johnson is said to have told fans during the shoot that Rudd was absent for family reasons.

Rock Or Bust will be the Aussie giants’ first album without mainman Malcolm Young, who’s been forced to retire as a result of dementia.

[Nickdfresh]

Rock or Bust indeed!

[ELVIS]

Just another reason why EVERY drug on the planet should be legalized...

So you can buy more crappy AC/DC albums ??

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Meth, crime organization... If this is all true, then Phil Rudd fell into dementia too...

So, who's next? Cliff Williams convicted of molesting his wife, drunk up to his eyes yelling "Hoooooooneeeeey!!!! What d'ya do for money?!?!?"?

Angus frantically treading on one foot upon a bunch of old people in a retirement home because everyone else in the band is going crazy?

[ELVIS]

Angus Old...

[78/84 guy]

There's always the Firm drummer. Again. I say release the album and call it a day Angus.

[Mr. Vengeance]

If I had a nickle for everyone who threw out the Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap line on the internet in the last 24 hours.....

[ashstralia]

http://m.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/acdc-drummer-phil-rudd-accused-of-hiring-hit-men-the-hugh-hefner-of-tauranga-witness-20141106-11i64c.html

[Seshmeister]

Maybe he's been watching too much Breaking Bad.

RE "Rudd, described as 'a good man at heart' by the man police allege was the intended hitman", I don't know anything about Rudd apart from he is a drummer with great swing but guilty or not I would suggest that when this goes to trial even I would be a better character witness than the hitman... :)

[Von Halen]

Charge has been dropped.

[ELVIS]

So it was all just a stunt...:rolleyes:

What's next a reality show ??

[Von Halen]

So it was all just a stunt...:rolleyes:

What's next a reality show ??

He's still facing the drug charges.

[Kristy]

Oh thank fuck. It's been so long since an irrelevant rock star was brought up on drug charges.

[Nitro Express]

Phil is going to make a jailbreak.

[VetteLS5]

I say release the album and call it a day Angus.

I thought it was called Rock or Bust? "a day Angus" would be a silly name for an album.

[Jérôme Frenchise]

I thought it was called Rock or Bust? "a day Angus" would be a silly name for an album.

:biggrin: I dig that! I make people around me crazy with this kind op puns on a daily basis. Can't help it.

Automatic like AC/DC riffs.

[Hardrock69]

The drug charges will be dropped. The only reason they found them was they raided his house on false pretenses.

Any evidence obtained will be inadmissible in court.

He should sue the local po-po for libel.

[binnie]

What a fucking year for AC/DC.........

[sonrisa salvaje]

Oh thank fuck. It's been so long since an irrelevant rock star was brought up on drug charges.

Rock or Bitch

[ELVIS]

The drug charges will be dropped. The only reason they found them was they raided his house on false pretenses.

Any evidence obtained will be inadmissible in court.



And anything you do or say is complete bullshit...

[Hardrock69]

And you are some expert on bullshit, no?

You add nothing to this fucking forum. In fact, this forum has always been the worse off for your presence.

Even Krusty contributes more than you, mouth-breather.

[High Life Man]

So, I listened to it yesterday. It's definitely AC/DC.

And meh.

Not going to stop me from seeing them one last time.

[Hardrock69]

I skipped the last tour. I could have gone, but I have literally seen them at least a dozen times, and I figured there would be nothing new again during their shows. Except maybe a new song or two.

I too am going to see them next year for sure, as I expect it to be the last time as well.

[WARF]

He hit the nail on the head!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKxGw_wZv-E

[ELVIS]

Looking for sports royalties ??

I'll pass...like I did on every album since Fly on the Wall...

[ELVIS]

And you are some expert on bullshit, no?



I'm an expert on recognizing it...

Look in your mom's mirror and you'll see what I'm talking about...

[WARF]

I agree Elvis, Fly on the wall is where it ends for me.

The 2nd single "Rock or Bust" is essentially just a really bland sequel of "Nervous Shakedown".

[ELVIS]

Brian's voice isn't half bad though...

Too bad all they can do is rehash the same song over and over...

[TFM_Dale]

AC\DC was a great band, I grew tired of the act years ago but I don't deny that they were great. Like E said, they just seem to rehash the same fucking song over and over and over again and if it sells, fuck it, why not do it? I just can't bring myself to buy the albums anymore.

[vandeleur]

I really enjoyed the River Plate DVD. What the fuck it aint rocket surgery , its rocket roll :)

[TFM_Dale]

I really enjoyed the River Plate DVD. What the fuck it aint rocket surgery , its rocket roll :)

I hear ya, and I am a fan, I love the old shit, just grew tired of them I suppose.

[Seshmeister]

So, I listened to it yesterday. It's definitely AC/DC.

And meh.

Not going to stop me from seeing them one last time.

For some weird reason I've never seen them live so makes sense to go for what surely will be the last time.

Last tour here was in stadiums though, I'm not into that, I'll go if it's an arena.

[Von Halen]

Hey, look, it's AC/DC! Wow, they fucking sound like AC/DC!

What a bunch of dumbass hypocrites. VH LITERALLY rehashes the same OLD shit on 99% of their last album, and you fuckers act like it's the greatest accomplishment any band ever made. But AC/DC sounds like fucking AC/DC, and now it sucks. Gee, maybe AC/DC should have tried to sound like someone else. Or maybe they should have just had some other band make an album, and call it AC/DC, so it wouldn't sound like AC/DC.

The day any of you motherfuckers make an album better than AC/DC's worst album, I'll buy it. Until then, keep being frustrated that you suck more than they do.

Now, I'm going to go get in my Dodge Ram with the 10 speaker sound system that fucking rocks, and crank up the Avatar "Hail To The Apocalypse" album to full volume, while you motherfuckers sit here and debate old bands rehashing old stuff.

[TFM_Dale]

Hey, look, it's AC/DC! Wow, they fucking sound like AC/DC!

What a bunch of dumbass hypocrites. VH LITERALLY rehashes the same OLD shit on 99% of their last album, and you fuckers act like it's the greatest accomplishment any band ever made. But AC/DC sounds like fucking AC/DC, and now it sucks. Gee, maybe AC/DC should have tried to sound like someone else. Or maybe they should have just had some other band make an album, and call it AC/DC, so it wouldn't sound like AC/DC.

The day any of you motherfuckers make an album better than AC/DC's worst album, I'll buy it. Until then, keep being frustrated that you suck more than they do.

Now, I'm going to go get in my Dodge Ram with the 10 speaker sound system that fucking rocks, and crank up the Avatar "Hail To The Apocalypse" album to full volume, while you motherfuckers sit here and debate old bands rehashing old stuff.

I know, I get what you are saying, but at some point don't you get tired of hearing it? I LOVE Faith No More but if every song sounded like Ashes to ashes I would get sick of them too. I'm not shitting on their legacy and I do appreciate that they didn't go full on gay like Aerosmith and churn out stupid ass ballads album after album but how many times can they record the same fucking album and expect people to buy it?

[Von Halen]

I know, I get what you are saying, but at some point don't you get tired of hearing it? I LOVE Faith No More but if every song sounded like Ashes to ashes I would get sick of them too. I'm not shitting on their legacy and I do appreciate that they didn't go full on gay like Aerosmith and churn out stupid ass ballads album after album but how many times can they record the same fucking album and expect people to buy it?

People aren't buying albums, period. But, they're AC/DC, and they make AC/DC music. What else are they supposed to do? Break up the band, go hook up with other musicians, and make other music that nobody is going to buy? You know, like Lynch and Sweet are doing, that these wanna be fucks are also complaining about.

In answer to your question, yeah, for the most part, I get tired of hearing it. That's why I'm out buying and seeing and supporting newer bands, as well as the old bands. That's why I'm listening more to bands like Avatar, Texas Hippie Coalition, KXM, Alter Bridge, King 810, Outline In Color and many others.

Give these failed musicians fresh new music, they hate it. Give them rehashed old stuff from great old bands, they hate it. They are so pissed off at themselves for never making it, they can't accept someone else doing what works for them, nor can they accept new bands creating what they failed to create.

[vandeleur]

Failed musicians , better than a kristy wanna be :D

[DONNIEP]

Screw all you failed musicians - I'm gonna put in the new Winger album and rock the fuck out!!

[vandeleur]

Screw all you failed musicians - I'm gonna put in the new Winger album and rock the fuck out!!

I like that , never been called a musician before :D

[TFM_Dale]

People aren't buying albums, period. But, they're AC/DC, and they make AC/DC music. What else are they supposed to do? Break up the band, go hook up with other musicians, and make other music that nobody is going to buy? You know, like Lynch and Sweet are doing, that these wanna be fucks are also complaining about.

In answer to your question, yeah, for the most part, I get tired of hearing it. That's why I'm out buying and seeing and supporting newer bands, as well as the old bands. That's why I'm listening more to bands like Avatar, Texas Hippie Coalition, KXM, Alter Bridge, King 810, Outline In Color and many others.

Give these failed musicians fresh new music, they hate it. Give them rehashed old stuff from great old bands, they hate it. They are so pissed off at themselves for never making it, they can't accept someone else doing what works for them, nor can they accept new bands creating what they failed to create.

You like Down at all? I cant get into Alter Bridge, better then crud but the stench is still there. I like to buy albums that I see someone mention in a interview or if I catch a song on the satellite radio that sounds kick ass I'll buy the album. I used to buy shit just because it is "insert random rock band name's" new album but I'm not into hearing what I have already heard a million times. If I want to listen to AC/DC I would rather throw on Highway to Hell than suffer through Stiff upper lip. I dig that you support the new artists, I try and do the same, it still hurts when our old bands resort to releasing uninspired garbage though.

[TFM_Dale]

Screw all you failed musicians - I'm gonna put in the new Winger album and rock the fuck out!!

Winger has a new album? The end really is near.

[DONNIEP]

Winger has a new album? The end really is near.

Came out earlier this year. Deal With The Devil is a pretty good song. But...it's just a band that has both Reb Beach AND Rod Morgenstein in it so what do I know.

:biggrin:

[TFM_Dale]

I'll take your word for it Mr. P

[DONNIEP]

I'll take your word for it Mr. P

Ah, it's not everybody's cup of tea. Would kinda suck if we all liked the same stuff anyway. I mean, if we did, then we'd probably spend 10 or 15 years sitting around arguing about one band over and over and wait a minute....

[ELVIS]

Is Angus possessed or made of wax ??

http://www.rollingstone.it/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Ac-Dc-Rock-or-Bust-e1416239791860.jpg

[DONNIEP]

Is Angus possessed or made of wax ??

http://www.rollingstone.it/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Ac-Dc-Rock-or-Bust-e1416239791860.jpg

Devilly. Definitely Devilly...

[vandeleur]

He is a cool fucker , he has made a living playing great music . He has never said he was the worlds greatest guitarist but has produced some of rocks most memorable riffs . He actual produced those same riffs a few times :biggrin:
He hasnt went and done his musical saucy jack and all the other shite that goes with people blowing smoke up your ass for 40 years.

That expression is you are still letting me get away with this stuff :D

[DONNIEP]

He is a cool fucker , he has made a living playing great music . He has never said he was the worlds greatest guitarist but has produced some of rocks most memorable riffs . He actual produced those same riffs a few times :biggrin:
He hasnt went and done his musical saucy jack and all the other shite that goes with people blowing smoke up your ass for 40 years.

That expression is you are still letting me get away with this stuff :D

Too many words.

Let's fight!!!

[vandeleur]

You're americans you dont wanna fight with us mate , look what happened last time :


The Burning of Washington in 1814 was an attack during the War of 1812 between British forces and those of the United States of America. On August 24, 1814, after defeating the Americans at the Battle of Bladensburg, a British force led by Major General Robert Ross occupied Washington City and set fire to many public buildings, including the White House (known as the presidential mansion at the time), and the Capitol, as well as other facilities of the U.S. government.[3] The attack was in part a retaliation to American actions in the Raid on Port Dover.

Throughout the history of the United States, the United Kingdom is the only country to have ever burned the White House or Washington, D.C., and this was the only time since the American Revolutionary War that a foreign power captured and occupied the United States capital.

:biggrin:

[DONNIEP]

You're americans you dont wanna fight with us mate , look what happened last time :


The Burning of Washington in 1814 was an attack during the War of 1812 between British forces and those of the United States of America. On August 24, 1814, after defeating the Americans at the Battle of Bladensburg, a British force led by Major General Robert Ross occupied Washington City and set fire to many public buildings, including the White House (known as the presidential mansion at the time), and the Capitol, as well as other facilities of the U.S. government.[3] The attack was in part a retaliation to American actions in the Raid on Port Dover.

Throughout the history of the United States, the United Kingdom is the only country to have ever burned the White House or Washington, D.C., and this was the only time since the American Revolutionary War that a foreign power captured and occupied the United States capital.

:biggrin:

That does it! Them's fightin' words! Where's my Confederate States Of America Flag and my special robe?

[vandeleur]

Right , fuck it . Where is my pointy stick :)

[DONNIEP]

Right , fuck it . Where is my pointy stick :)

Ah, let's just go get good and drunk instead. Then we can talk about how much we don't like all those other people. You know which ones I'm talking about.

[vandeleur]

Ah, let's just go get good and drunk instead. Then we can talk about how much we don't like all those other people. You know which ones I'm talking about.

Oh drunk , I do good drunk .

[Von Halen]

You like Down at all? I cant get into Alter Bridge, better then crud but the stench is still there. I like to buy albums that I see someone mention in a interview or if I catch a song on the satellite radio that sounds kick ass I'll buy the album.

I haven't heard Down, but I'll get there stuff, and give them a listen. I do the same thing. I can't tell you how many bands I've purchased music by, based on Binnie's reviews.

I'll be honest, I wouldn't know a Creed song if I heard one right now. Nothing from them that was ever on the radio caught my ear. Other than Mark Tremonti playing the guitar in that band, I have no idea how they compare to Alter Bridge. I love the Alter Bridge albums, and I love the first Tremonti album, and am looking forward to the next one with Wolfgang on it. By the way, Wolfgang will be playing the Rock On The Range Festival in Columbus, OH next May, with Tremonti. So, anyone getting their panties wet over something fresh and new, including a tour from VH, might as well go wipe themselves.

[vandeleur]

I must admit Ive bought albums based on binnies reviews or checked bands out . He should be on a percentage.

[Von Halen]

You're americans you dont wanna fight with us mate , look what happened last time :


The Burning of Washington in 1814 was an attack during the War of 1812 between British forces and those of the United States of America. On August 24, 1814, after defeating the Americans at the Battle of Bladensburg, a British force led by Major General Robert Ross occupied Washington City and set fire to many public buildings, including the White House (known as the presidential mansion at the time), and the Capitol, as well as other facilities of the U.S. government.[3] The attack was in part a retaliation to American actions in the Raid on Port Dover.

Throughout the history of the United States, the United Kingdom is the only country to have ever burned the White House or Washington, D.C., and this was the only time since the American Revolutionary War that a foreign power captured and occupied the United States capital.

:biggrin:

So, you guys started this rioting and looting shit?

[vandeleur]

So, you guys started this rioting and looting shit?

:biggrin:

[ELVIS]

Wolfgang will be playing the Rock On The Range Festival in Columbus, OH next May, with Tremonti. So, anyone getting their panties wet over something fresh and new, including a tour from VH, might as well go wipe themselves.

What does that have to do with =VH= ??

[DONNIEP]

What does that have to do with =VH= ??

There ain't no VH.

[DONNIEP]

So, you guys started this rioting and looting shit?

See, just one more example of the White Man's savagery!

[Von Halen]

What does that have to do with =VH= ??

Nothing.

[WARF]

AC\DC was a great band, I grew tired of the act years ago but I don't deny that they were great. Like E said, they just seem to rehash the same fucking song over and over and over again and if it sells, fuck it, why not do it? I just can't bring myself to buy the albums anymore.

Bon Scott was the element of AC/DC that made that band great. They're mediocre without him. I've always maintained that Brian Johnson is the Sammy Hagar of that band.

[WARF]

Screw all you failed musicians - I'm gonna put in the new Winger album and rock the fuck out!!

It's actually much better than the AC/DC album.

[vandeleur]

Bon Scott was the element of AC/DC that made that band great. They're mediocre without him. I've always maintained that Brian Johnson is the Sammy Hagar of that band.

No . Back in black is better than anything van whatever released .

[WARF]

No . Back in black is better than anything van whatever released .

I'm so fucking sick of that album. I prefer FLICK OF THE SWITCH. It's never played on the radio.

[vandeleur]

Brian Johnson is gotta be better than hagar , he ain't Bon but who is ,but Hagar .... It's harsh dude , harsh .

[WARF]

Brian Johnson is gotta be better than hagar , he ain't Bon but who is ,but Hagar .... It's harsh dude , harsh .

It's just my opinion. I have never been a huge fan of AC/DC but when I do listen to them, I listen to the Bon Scott stuff. They haven't made a truly great album in 30 years so my interest level is almost ZERO with that band.

[Angel]

You're americans you dont wanna fight with us mate , look what happened last time :


The Burning of Washington in 1814 was an attack during the War of 1812 between British forces and those of the United States of America. On August 24, 1814, after defeating the Americans at the Battle of Bladensburg, a British force led by Major General Robert Ross occupied Washington City and set fire to many public buildings, including the White House (known as the presidential mansion at the time), and the Capitol, as well as other facilities of the U.S. government.[3] The attack was in part a retaliation to American actions in the Raid on Port Dover.

Throughout the history of the United States, the United Kingdom is the only country to have ever burned the White House or Washington, D.C., and this was the only time since the American Revolutionary War that a foreign power captured and occupied the United States capital.

:biggrin:

Ummm...those "British" forces were comprised mainly of Canadian settler militia, First Nations and Metis. The war of 1812 is a defining moment in Canadian history....and like the Brits, we totally downplay the contributions made by the "Indians"...

*"Before Canada became a country, Britain's military alliances with First Nations were a key part of the defensive network of British North America. During the War of 1812, First Nations warriors and Métis fighters played important roles in the defence of these British territories against invading American forces. Thousands of First Nations warriors and Métis fighters fought beside British troops and Canadian settler militias during the war.

First Nations and Métis communities sided with the British during the war because they shared a common goal: to resist American expansion. More than 10,000 First Nations warriors from the Great Lakes region and the*St.Lawrence Valley participated in nearly every major battle. For British military leaders such as Major-General Sir Isaac Brock, commander of Britain's forces, First Nations warriors strengthened local garrisons and were seen as exceptional fighters." - https://www.aadnc-aandc.gc.ca/eng/1338906261900/1338906300039

Robert-Ross et al would have been fucked, and Canada would not exist if it weren't for Warriors like Chief Tecumseh (true hero of that era)...

Oh Canada, my home on Native land...

[Angel]

Oh, and AC/DC have been stagnant for years. :yawn:

[Satan]

Johnson is obviously not as bad as Hagar. Aside from his "cat in the dryer" screeching, what he seems to lack is any diversity in songwriting.

AC/DC made 6 studio albums with Bon and each one is a very different record.

AC/DC with Brian Johnson has been making the same album over and over again since 1980.

There's the real difference as this Devil sees it.

[FORD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U1yh8e9HcA

[vandeleur]

Oh, and AC/DC have been stagnant for years. :yawn:

Stop with the facts , it's the army you will scare people .i only post that old chest so Donniep or Von would come windmilling in with we saved you in ww2 . It's tradition , sure you get poke the bear . You actually have them :biggrin:
Think am replying to the wrong post ... Wtf :)

[vandeleur]

And my final comment on Acdc , leave them alone I like that song they do :)

[vandeleur]

I did a gig with dave Evans a few years ago . He is like crocodile Dundee . I didn't dare ask how shit was it losing the job :biggrin:

[FORD]

I did a gig with dave Evans a few years ago . He is like crocodile Dundee . I didn't dare ask how shit was it losing the job :biggrin:

Maybe he should put together a band with Pete Best. Hell, they could ask Dave Mustaine to play guitar, since he can't seem to keep a Megadeth lineup together.

[DLR Bridge]

Maybe he should put together a band with Pete Best. Hell, they could ask Dave Mustaine to play guitar, since he can't seem to keep a Megadeth lineup together.

You'd have to get Mark Stone on bass for that gig.

[78/84 guy]

And my final comment on Acdc , leave them alone I like that song they do :)

Classic. I do think the Bon stuff makes AC/DC a top 5 rock band. As far as Brain goes the guy is a cool dude but the story telling disappeared. Bon had the wit about the way he used words. Clever fucker. Back In Black, For Those About To Rock & Razors Edge were good. Fly & Switch had a few good tunes. As did Ballbreaker. I think Black Ice is really good but too long. This new one not bad. Good short tunes. Almost to simple ! But I enjoyed it more than I thought I would. Not sure I want to see them without Mal. The Black Ice tour was great. So without Mal & probably Phil I think I'll pass.

[binnie]

'Rock Or Bust' is what it is - an AC/DC album. Nothing more, nothing less.

Stripping things back to the bare essentials works well for them........

[Hardrock69]

I will pick it up sometime next week. No hurry.

[george]

I think one of the issues with several of the more recent AC/DC albums sounding the same is that Malcom and Angus are handling everything with regards to lyrics and music. Brian stopped writing back before Who Made Who, I believe.

I've got the new album and I was surprised at some of the cool riffs it contained. Again, the lyrics aren't what I'd necessarily prefer, but it is AC/DC. I'm glad these guys haven't changed like so many other bands have/had (Judas Priest - do you hear me? WTF was Turbo????).

Of course Brian isn't Bon. Unfortunately, we didn't get anything from Bon after Highway to Hell. That isn't Brian's fault and as a fan, I'm happy they continue. There sure isn't a lot out there that I like as much as this new AC/DC album.

[Baby's On Fire]

I think one of the issues with several of the more recent AC/DC albums sounding the same is that Malcom and Angus are handling everything with regards to lyrics and music. Brian stopped writing back before Who Made Who, I believe.

I've got the new album and I was surprised at some of the cool riffs it contained. Again, the lyrics aren't what I'd necessarily prefer, but it is AC/DC. I'm glad these guys haven't changed like so many other bands have/had (Judas Priest - do you hear me? WTF was Turbo????).

Of course Brian isn't Bon. Unfortunately, we didn't get anything from Bon after Highway to Hell. That isn't Brian's fault and as a fan, I'm happy they continue. There sure isn't a lot out there that I like as much as this new AC/DC album.

I am not an AC DC fan.

But Brian Johnson sounds fantastic on this new album. If only DLR could still sing that well.

Whether or not he was ever a good singer, his voice actually sounds better now than ever on some of the songs.

[ToraToraTora]

I really like the new album. Not a stone cold AC/DC classic but it will do for me. Just secured tickets for Berlin 2015 gig. Road Trip!!!!

[DavidLeeNatra]

I really like the new album. Not a stone cold AC/DC classic but it will do for me. Just secured tickets for Berlin 2015 gig. Road Trip!!!!

welcome to my town...will be there, too! ;)

[Seshmeister]

I really like the new album. Not a stone cold AC/DC classic but it will do for me. Just secured tickets for Berlin 2015 gig. Road Trip!!!!

I think there is a direct Easyjet

[ToraToraTora]

I think there is a direct Easyjet

There is, That's booked as well. :)

[Seshmeister]

Thanks for the idea BTW, you may have solved a massive Xmas present headache for me... :)

[ELVIS]

Xmas...:rolleyes:

Xwebmaster would be better...

[FORD]

http://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/xmasabbr.asp

[Mr. Vengeance]

I haven't been this underwhelmed by an AC/DC album since Blow Up Your Video. My favorite band, but this one leaves a little to be desired. Pretty formulaic AC/DC, and I guess at this point I shouldn't expect change. However, the album is short for this day and age. Plus, you have 11 songs and 4 of them have the word 'rock' in them. Can we not be a little more creative?

[Seshmeister]

http://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/xmasabbr.asp

Thanks for helping out with the ongoing owning of our resident fact free troll.

To be honest though if I could find a way to use a word like Saturnalia or Winterfest instead without it sounding like pretentious shit I would.

As many people know Christianity stole he festival and inserted the silly nativity fairy tale into it.

[ELVIS]

Ongoing owning ??

Dude, your ass is so red I doubt you can sit down...

And pretentious ??

You and Krusty alone define the term...

Gimme a break...

You're not worthy to go head to head with a strong willed freedom lover like myself, let alone manage a website once dedicated to an American rock star...

Go get drunk, if you're not already, and blow some bag pipes...

[vandeleur]

http://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/xmasabbr.asp

thats cool , I like that . It should piss some people off this year :)

[Hardrock69]

"Strong-willed freedom-lover"?

:lmao:

What a joke. You hate anyone who does good for America.

You and all your inbred, mongrel, idiot friends dream of the destruction of America.

Fucking idiot.


Back on topic....I bought the AC/DC album.

It is a piece of shit. They have not produced anything great since the mid-80s.

I listened to it once. It is pathetically forgettable.

[binnie]

Back on topic....I bought the AC/DC album.

It is a piece of shit. They have not produced anything great since the mid-80s.

I listened to it once. It is pathetically forgettable.

I agree. I thought the same thing about all the hype around 'Black Ice'. 'Oh, it's great, they're back on track.....'. Nope, it contains songs which wouldn't be strong enough to get a new band signed.

[vandeleur]

fuck off , I just got it and its tonights drive to work ... spoil sports.

santas your parents :)

[binnie]

fuck off , I just got it and its tonights drive to work ... spoil sports.

santas your parents :)

When I listen to it, I think 'I could keep spinning this. Or, I could put on Powerage'. It's not a difficult choice.

[78/84 guy]

I agree. I thought the same thing about all the hype around 'Black Ice'. 'Oh, it's great, they're back on track.....'. Nope, it contains songs which wouldn't be strong enough to get a new band signed.

Hmmm... Black Ice was solid, A little too long. Maybe that's why I liked the new one. Short like the old days. Not as strong as Black Ice at all but I think 7 of the songs are solid. A few sleepers for sure. But I'll take it. The best thing about cds is you can make your own. I'll take Black Ice & this one and make a best of both. I'm urging all older bands including VH to stop putting out full albums. Give us an EP of 5-7 songs and hit the road. I can't savage a band of guy's in their 50's and 60's for not sounding like 1983 anymore. Unless it really sucks like what the Stones have tried to dump on us after 1990.

[Mr. Vengeance]

Drives me nuts when a long running band puts out an album and people say "They haven't done anything good since...." and then name a 25 year old album. It's never true. They just haven't duplicated the stuff they did during their prime.

Latest album is a disappointment, but they've had some good material since fucking FTATR, people....

[ELVIS]

Name one song...

[Satan]

"Razor's Edge" was a pretty good record, actually. And it actually had the only official Ac/Dc Xmas single, "Mistress for Christmas".

A lot of mortals thought this was them, but it ain't.....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK3QJP78mog

That, of course, is really Bob Rivers & Twisted Radio with Spike O'Neill doing the flawless Bon vocals.

[ELVIS]

Nobody I know mistook that silliness for AC/DC...

[DLR Bridge]

http://youtu.be/3zy2pBoTuOQ

Love their riff oriented tunes like this one. Ones where it's just banging on two, maybe three chords the whole way, like Play Ball, not so much.

[78/84 guy]

Name one song...

Your kidding right ? I love Bon more than anyone. But I'll give Brain his due.They did lot's of great stuff with him. He walked into a almost no win situation and did o.k. Sure they weren't big in America yet but they were other places. I would say the first 2 albums with him are great then it's hit or miss. But still a lot of good tunes mixed in there.

[Mr. Vengeance]

Name one song...
Yeahhhhh ok. Every song they've done since 1981 has sucked.

Don't be a 'tard.

[ELVIS]

No songs named, though...

[FORD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1DK2pZ5JIA

[Mr. Vengeance]

No songs named, though...

Why would I waste my fucking time? Anyone who would make the statement you did isn't going to agree with any song I could name, and I'm not about to indulge you in your game.

[binnie]

Drives me nuts when a long running band puts out an album and people say "They haven't done anything good since...." and then name a 25 year old album. It's never true. They just haven't duplicated the stuff they did during their prime.

Latest album is a disappointment, but they've had some good material since fucking FTATR, people....

They've certainly done good songs since FTATR, but a good album? I'm struggling.........

[Mr. Vengeance]

They've certainly done good songs since FTATR, but a good album? I'm struggling.........

Flick of the Switch rocks, baby! Razor's Edge was good. Hell, Fly on the Wall was good.....It's hard to say they have BAD albums. Some are just better than the others.

[Nitro Express]

Bon Scott was the element of AC/DC that made that band great. They're mediocre without him. I've always maintained that Brian Johnson is the Sammy Hagar of that band.

I couldn't agree more WARF. There was a wonderful rawness and authentic vibe to Bon that never was equaled. I don't like my rock and roll too polished. This is why in many cases the first albums are the gems. It's like one of the guys in Metalica said. It's hard to write negative angry lyrics when you are getting a blowjob by the pool behind your multi million dollar home with a Ferrari in the driveway.

[Mr. Vengeance]

I couldn't agree more WARF. There was a wonderful rawness and authentic vibe to Bon that never was equaled. I don't like my rock and roll too polished. This is why in many cases the first albums are the gems. It's like one of the guys in Metalica said. It's hard to write negative angry lyrics when you are getting a blowjob by the pool behind your multi million dollar home with a Ferrari in the driveway.
I don't buy that, because AC/DC has never been a band that lived the high life, even though they could. And their lyrics were never angry anyway. AC/DC is rock n' roll. I LOVED Bon, but Bon is dead. Brian Johnson has done an admirable job replacing a guy who was beloved, and has done it a LONG time. AC/DC never would have made another Highway to Hell with Bon either.....can't be done. (It's my favorite album)

[binnie]

Flick of the Switch rocks, baby! Razor's Edge was good. Hell, Fly on the Wall was good.....It's hard to say they have BAD albums. Some are just better than the others.

Ok, I'd totally agree with 'Flick Of The Switch' (in fact, I think I reviewed that). 'Razor's Edge' was patchy to these ears, though. The one I like the best, however, is 'Stiff Upper Lip'. I find myself listening to that more and more. I think I like it because it's genuine - it's not big rock, it's pure blues, and AC/DC clearly want to be a blues band.

None of those records is as good as the '70s stuff, though. That doesn't mean it's shit. It just means it's a step down.

[binnie]

AC/DC never would have made another Highway to Hell with Bon either.....can't be done. (It's my favorite album)

I know a lot of people who agree with you, but 'Highway..' is my least favourite Bon record. I've always felt that Mutt streamlined them too much, and they lost some of the unpredictable raw power of 'Powerage' and 'Let There Be Rock' (my favourite - NOTHING sounds like that record, gutsy and thick).

[CVH Rulz]

AC/DC opened up the Grammy's in stellar fashion!
Grammies? Grammys? Aww...who cares!

[Carloscda]

AC/DC opened up the Grammy's in stellar fashion!
Grammies? Grammys? Aww...who cares!

Yea they should've done For those about to Rock as their last song!

[FORD]

A band that actually plays instruments was on the Grammys?

Figures it would be the one year I didn't even bother watching (because of all the autotuned untalented corporate bubblegum shit they usually have on)

[FORD]

Oh shit... here we go. The DEVIL made them do it!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFA-uSqlnzw