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Seshmeister
10-08-2014, 08:58 AM
What is going on in Californian Universities these days?



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Occidental Expels Student for Rape Under Standard So Low That the Accuser Could Have Been Found Guilty, Too

Robby Soave|Jun. 4, 2014 5:30 pm

Does all drunken sex constitute rape? Obviously not, but that's the argument Occidental College administrators must make in their zeal to prosecute a male student for sexual assault—even after police acquitted him.

The student, identified only as "John Doe," had sex with his accuser on September 8th, 2013, according to details of the case obtained by the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education. Both Doe and his accuser had been drinking. By several accounts, the sex was consensual. The accuser sent Doe a text message beforehand asking him if he had a condom. She also texted a friend and clearly announced her intention to have sex with Doe.

After that night, the accuser spoke with several Occidental employees, including Danielle Dirks, an assistant professor of sociology. Dirks told the accuser that Doe "fit the profile of other rapists on campus in that he had a high GPA in high school, was his class valedictorian, was on [a sports team], and was 'from a good family.'"

A week later, the accuser filed a sexual assault report against Doe.

The Los Angeles Police Department determined that both parties had consented to sex and decided not to charge Doe:

"Witnesses were interviewed and agreed that the victim and suspect were both drunk, however, that they were both willing participants exercising bad judgment …. It would be reasonable for [Doe] to conclude based on their communications and [the accuser’s] actions that, even though she was intoxicated, she could still exercise reasonable judgment."

Occidental College, however, is under pressure to be seen as doing something about sexual assault on campus given the federal investigation into its rape prevention practices, so the college hired attorney Marilou Mirkovich to investigate the matter. Mirkovich concluded that the female student did indeed consent to sex. However, since she was intoxicated, her consent was invalid, according to Mirkovich.

This is a flawed interpretation of Occidental's own policy on consent, which requires students be not merely drunk but actively incapacitated for rape to have occurred, according to FIRE Vice President Robert Shibley.

Indeed, Mirkovich's interpretation makes no sense. If all drunken sex is rape, then Doe and his accuser are both guilty.

"Both parties would be guilty of sexually assaulting one another," Shibley told me in a phone interview.

Occidental is only holding Doe responsible, however. He was found guilty and expelled.

The college denied Doe's appeal. He has since filed a lawsuit against the college and reached out to FIRE for help. FIRE sent Occidental a letter outlining the group's concerns that Doe's due process rights were severely violated.

"Right now we are waiting from a response from Occidental," said Shibley.

Seshmeister
10-08-2014, 08:59 AM
After that night, the accuser spoke with several Occidental employees, including Danielle Dirks, an assistant professor of sociology. Dirks told the accuser that Doe "fit the profile of other rapists on campus in that he had a high GPA in high school, was his class valedictorian, was on [a sports team], and was 'from a good family.'"



Incredible...

ZahZoo
10-08-2014, 10:11 AM
Based on that criteria... During my band days in my 20's, with groupies and bar-flies... I'd have been classified as a serial rapist!!

The question is... why was the woman discussing her sexual encounter with several employees and a professor..? Was she bragging or complaining??

Kristy
10-08-2014, 10:25 AM
Shenanigans.

Nitro Express
10-08-2014, 01:15 PM
Occidental got caught covering up sexual assaults on their campus and since they got caught doing that maybe they are over paranoid now. Sexual assault seems to be a big problem on campuses these days.

We get a lot of Chinese tourists coming up here and we have had more bear attacks than normal the last few years. So you see bear spray sold all over. It's like heavy duty pepper spray. Anyways one Chinese girl who bought some bear spray while on vacation up here decided to keep it in her purse for protection against two legged predators. Well some idiot tried to rape her in San Francisco and she let him have it with the bear spray. Just about killed the guy because he had a hard time breathing and I'm sure the pain was fun as well. He got what he deserved. Pack the bear spray ladies.

Seshmeister
10-08-2014, 03:39 PM
Occidental got caught covering up sexual assaults on their campus and since they got caught doing that maybe they are over paranoid now. Sexual assault seems to be a big problem on campuses these days.

It's only a big problem if you define someone as unable to give consent if they have had any alcohol and encourage students to treat their bad decisions as rape.

cadaverdog
10-08-2014, 06:03 PM
After that night, the accuser spoke with several Occidental employees, including Danielle Dirks, an assistant professor of sociology. Dirks told the accuser that Doe "fit the profile of other rapists on campus in that he had a high GPA in high school, was his class valedictorian, was on [a sports team], and was 'from a good family.'"

A week later, the accuser filed a sexual assault report against Doe.
What kind of horseshit is that? I bet the same bitch thinks anyone with a penis is probably a rapist.

DONNIEP
10-08-2014, 08:09 PM
Retarded. I hope the guy banged the living shit out of her and she has hip problems for life.

Hardrock69
10-08-2014, 10:06 PM
Yeah so her consent does not count because she was drunk.

That means his consent does not count because he was drunk.

Tie game.

Game over.

It is to the point that fucking someone just opens up more trouble than it is worth.

So.....some chick was charged a couple of months ago here in Gnashville...with filing a false police report.

She said she was raped in some park or some shit.

Then it became public knowledge that she had placed ads on Craigslist saying she wanted to be raped.

Fucking idiot.

Just one more tale of The Stupid's half-wit Southern cousins.....

Seshmeister
10-09-2014, 08:22 AM
Then it became public knowledge that she had placed ads on Craigslist saying she wanted to be raped.



Who the fuck would answer an ad like that?

Louis CK did a bit on this, these women are a fucking menace to guys and girls.

Hardrock69
10-09-2014, 09:42 AM
I agree. Only an idiot would WANT to get involved with a stupid ho like that in ANY way.