Van Halen - East Rutherford 2007 - Full Show!

[WARF]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hlNwbRUuWw

[ELVIS]

Wow !!

That recording is awesome...

They sound way more like the real thing then they do now...

Time flies, eh ??

[ELVIS]

FF to 11:40...

[ELVIS]

It's amazing that was only 2007...

They suck now compared to that...

[Von Halen]

Wow !!

That recording is awesome...

They sound way more like the real thing then they do now...

Time flies, eh ??

Well, some of the background vocals were being piped in. You can really hear it on that recording.

But way way beyond that, Dave is staying in the proper register. Wow. What a fucking difference.

How dare some dumbasses around here claim the Jap show is even fucking close to that performance.

[ELVIS]

Amen to that...

That's the real deal right there...


:killer:

[WARF]

Well, some of the background vocals were being piped in. You can really hear it on that recording.

But way way beyond that, Dave is staying in the proper register. Wow. What a fucking difference.

How dare some dumbasses around here claim the Jap show is even fucking close to that performance.

This should be the LIVE cd!

I agree with you 100% here.

Dave is singing great in the right register! Awesome!

[ELVIS]

I'll take that show over Tokyo any day !!!

[Von Halen]

I'll take that show over Tokyo any day !!!

I hope they don't do HAIL on this performance, because the one from Tokyo is the best Flamma has ever heard! :rolleyes:

[ELVIS]

That's what Edwad doesn't understand...

We have Youtube !!!

[ELVIS]

I hope they don't do HAIL on this performance, because the one from Tokyo is the best Flamma has ever heard! :rolleyes:

:biggrin:

[DLR Bridge]

I'll have to check this out. I was at the post-break show in May of '08 at the Meadowlands. Dave was great, Ed was on auto-pilot, Wolf was filling his pants and Al was Al.

[WARF]

Someone should tie Roth down to chair and force him to listen to this....

[ELVIS]

Dave seems 100 years younger in that clip...

Drugs are bad...Mkay ??

[WARF]

I hope they don't do HAIL on this performance, because the one from Tokyo is the best Flamma has ever heard! :rolleyes:

Anyone who says Tokyo is the definitive collection is a fucking moron.

[ELVIS]

This show really is awesome...

I'm still listening...


:killer:

[DONNIEP]

Someone should tie Roth down to chair and force him to listen to this....

You'd have to tie him down to get him to sit still. Or shoot him with a tranq gun.

[ELVIS]

And I gotta say Ed is doing pretty good considering the bad spots Ive seen from that tour...

I like the looseness...

[ELVIS]

Even DTNA is good...

[ELVIS]

This is the kind of show that makes me feel bad for slamming these guys...

[DONNIEP]

This is one of my favorite boots I have from this tour. Really good show.

[DONNIEP]

This is the kind of show that makes me feel bad for slamming these guys...

Well if they'd do it like this now there would be no reason to slam the band. Maybe they should go back to using Mikey's vocals :biggrin:

[Von Halen]

This is the kind of show that makes me feel bad for slamming these guys...

If Dave was still performing like this, you wouldn't be slamming them Elvis. None of us would be.

[ELVIS]

Here comes Atomic Punk...:killer:

[ELVIS]

Oh man...

That's good stuff...

[ELVIS]

Gives me goosebumps...

That's the shit right there...

Even with the mistakes...

[ELVIS]

On EWS, Dave carries the entire tune...

Ed should be kissing Dave's ass for that...

Maybe that's why he's still in the band...

[ELVIS]

But seriously, geez...

Fuck DLR for not being prepared for the Kimmel appearance...

He could be on top of the world right now...

[Von Halen]

Obviously he doesn't give a fuck.

Obviously he doesn't give a fuck about the legacy. Doesn't give a fuck about the songs. Doesn't give a fuck about US, the fucking FANS!

But hey, why should he? There are still dumbasses willing to shell out big bucks to go watch him suck hind tit.

[ELVIS]

You can easily hear the limitations of Edwad on So This Is Love and the intro to Mean Street...

Back to crackheadville...

[ELVIS]

But hey, why should he? There are still dumbasses willing to shell out big bucks to go watch him suck hind tit.

well, I'm not a dumbass...

Count me out...

[DONNIEP]

I don't think Dave has it in him any more. I hope I get proved wrong and have to eat those words during this summer's tour.

[ELVIS]

I don't think Dave has it in him any more.

Sure he does...

It doesn't just go away...

Dave has to come to grips with Dave...

people said the same thing WAY before 2007...

[Romeo Delight]

I hope they don't do HAIL on this performance, because the one from Tokyo is the best Flamma has ever heard! :rolleyes:

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit...

[Romeo Delight]

Wow !!

That recording is awesome...

They sound way more like the real thing then they do now...

Time flies, eh ??

Did you see a show that tour or were you protesting Wolfie's appearance?

[ELVIS]

I saw two shows that tour...

And I bought tickets for both family and friends...

I sure wouldn't do that now...

[Von Halen]

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit...

Are you stalking me? :D

You said HAIL from the Jap show was the best version you've ever heard. Enlighten me as to how my reading comprehension is lacking. Were you drunk when you posted that?

[Romeo Delight]

I wonder if Dave was super psyched this tour because it was his shot to re-establish his and Van Halen's legacy. He was certainly up to the task...

Is he just complacent now? Maybe he needs to be on a series of 90 day contracts?

Lol...also listening to the performance...Dave does the Indian yelp thing in Panama.

[ELVIS]

The bottom line is this show is Dave all the way...

[ELVIS]

I wonder if Dave was super psyched this tour because it was his shot to re-establish his and Van Halen's legacy.

I'm absolutely sure that's part of it...

What happened ??

Crack ??

[Romeo Delight]

Are you stalking me? :D

You said HAIL from the Jap show was the best version you've ever heard. Enlighten me as to how my reading comprehension is lacking. Were you drunk when you posted that?

lol...no I didn't say that....I lsaid parts of the song were as good as I have heard. I might have been in a good mood and a tad over exuberant, but I still stand by that statement. It was as good as they have performed in recent memory for sure.

[ELVIS]

Hot For Teacher is awesome...

No silly stories from Dave and good screams...

[ELVIS]

lol...no I didn't say that....I lsaid parts of the song were as good as I have heard. I might have been in a good mood and a tad over exuberant, but I still stand by that statement. It was as good as they have performed in recent memory for sure.

Dude...

It sucks !!!

[Romeo Delight]

Anyone who says Tokyo is the definitive collection is a fucking moron.

I don't think there is a human on this planet apart from the person who typed those words for the CD cover who thinks that...Even that person (Shelley?) probably doesn't believe it.

[Romeo Delight]

I'm absolutely sure that's part of it...

What happened ??

Crack ??

Maybe just a lack of focus...I don't know much about drug use and what that looks like.

Just getting silly in his old age and distracted easily....

[Romeo Delight]

You'd have to tie him down to get him to sit still. Or shoot him with a tranq gun.

I see either a movie here or a felony charge or two...

[Von Halen]

I'm still listening to this show, and now it's making me sad.

FUCK YOU FOR POSTING THIS WARF! :D

[ELVIS]

Maybe just a lack of focus...I don't know much about drug use and what that looks like.



trust me, I do...

Been there, done that, and I'm still trying to rescue my friends...

[Whorehey]

Maybe just a lack of focus...I don't know much about drug use and what that looks like.

Just getting silly in his old age and distracted easily....


Old age and complacency...

[ELVIS]

FF to 1:17

[Romeo Delight]

ATBL doesn't sound good...Ed's guitar is out of tune or something....Dave is killer

[ELVIS]

ATBL doesn't sound good...Ed's guitar is out of tune or something....Dave is killer

Ed generally sucks on that tour...

We're talking about Dave...

[DLR Bridge]

I'm up to Romeo Delight. Can't believe how smokin' hot this is.

[Romeo Delight]

Ed generally sucks on that tour...

We're talking about Dave...

I know...Ed was holding it together pretty well up to that point.

[DONNIEP]

Cigarettes - that's what's killed Dave's voice. IF Dave can still sing great there ain't no way he'd be screeching around like the worst tribute band singer on the planet.

[ELVIS]

Wait for Little Guitars...

[ELVIS]

cigarettes - that's what's killed dave's voice.

b u l l s h i t

[Von Halen]

Cigarettes - that's what's killed Dave's voice. IF Dave can still sing great there ain't no way he'd be screeching around like the worst tribute band singer on the planet.

Dude, he's always smoked. It's not like he wasn't smoking then, and is now.

[ELVIS]

Listen to Little Guitars...

[ELVIS]

Almost perfect...

[ELVIS]

I know...Ed was holding it together pretty well up to that point.

He comes and goes on that tour...

[DONNIEP]

b u l l s h i t

Oh ok, I'm wrong. He can still do it but just chooses not to. Because that makes all the sense in the world.

[DONNIEP]

Dude, he's always smoked. It's not like he wasn't smoking then, and is now.

Yep, and it takes a toll. Cumulative effect. Or maybe it's the lack of booze - seriously. Couple hits of Jack might just loosen up the pipes. Can't hurt.

[ELVIS]

He can still do it but just chooses not to.

That's what I'm saying, idiot...

Bring back Michael !!

[ELVIS]

Yep, and it takes a toll. Cumulative effect. Or maybe it's the lack of booze - seriously. Couple hits of Jack might just loosen up the pipes. Can't hurt.

Blah blah blah fucking blah...

Go suck Miley's dick...:rolleyes:

[ELVIS]

Ice Cream Man is awesome...

[DLR Bridge]

The thing that gets me is people say Dave needs to do his shim-sham Jazz-hands stuff to make up for the fact that he can't do what he used to do on stage anymore. Well, he's killing it visually here without doing any ultra silly dancing and he hasn't hardly jumped or kicked at all. Point being, he unnecessarily killed his better stage persona in lieu of Mr. Dancypants.

[DONNIEP]

Blah blah blah fucking blah...

Go suck Miley's dick...:rolleyes:

This takes the cake. Elvis - king of health food and anti smoking champion of the world suddenly denying the damage it does to vocal chords. Well, you live long enough you truly do see it all. I'm gonna send you a couple Tatuajes - I'm sure I've got your address around here somewhere.

:biggrin:

[ELVIS]

The thing that gets me is people say Dave needs to do his shim-sham Jazz-hands stuff to make up for the fact that he can't do what he used to do on stage anymore. Well, he's killing it visually here without doing any ultra silly dancing and he hasn't hardly jumped or kicked at all. Point being, he unnecessarily killed his better stage persona in lieu of Mr. Dancypants.

I still think it's on purpose...

[DONNIEP]

Here's the thing - my favorite post CVH boot is the 2002 NJ show. And Dave KILLS that show here. This performance smokes that show, pun intended.

[ELVIS]

This takes the cake. Elvis - king of health food and anti smoking champion of the world suddenly denying the damage it does to vocal chords.
:biggrin:

No I'm not...

I'm saying that's not the problem...

[ELVIS]

Ice Cream Man is awesome...

Ed almost loses it, but...

Classic Van Halen all the way...

Too bad MA wasn't there...


:killer:

[ELVIS]

Here's the thing - my favorite post CVH boot is the 2002 NJ show. And Dave KILLS that show here. This performance smokes that show, pun intended.

No way...

But even if he does, it's not Van Halen...

[DONNIEP]

No way...

But even if he does, it's not Van Halen...

No, it's not. And that's the sad fact - you and I and the other 12 people here are NEVER gonna see Van Halen reunited. It just ain't gonna happen. Ed is a bitter old bastard - I don't care if he runs around smiling through his false teeth all day long and can shoot lighting out his fingers. He ain't never gonna let Mikey back in the band. And that's nothing but a slap in the face to the fans.

[ELVIS]

you and I and the other 12 people here are NEVER gonna see Van Halen reunited.

You don't know that...

Shaddup...both you and Sesh...

These guys always surprise us, and I'm ready for more...

[DONNIEP]

You don't know that...

Shaddup...both you and Sesh...

These guys always surprise us, and I'm ready for more...

I'll be more than happy to say I was wrong.

[ELVIS]

Well...

Let's agree on that...;)

[Von Halen]

Hate to say it Elvis, but I agree with Donnie on that one. I think Dave will fuck himself out of the band before they have a chance to get Mike back. He is already back to projecting his vaudevillian act on them. That ain't gonna sit well with the brothers. I saw Ed giving Dave nasty looks after the Ellen performance.

[ELVIS]

So did I...

[DONNIEP]

Yep. Mikey will be back - there's no doubt in my mind. But he won't be backing up Dave...

[ELVIS]

Hmmm...

[ELVIS]

I still have hope...

[DONNIEP]

I don't blame Ed one bit for shooting Dave the Stink Eye. The guy was hopping around like he just got invited to Freddie Mercury's last big birthday bash.

[ELVIS]

I don't blame Ed one bit for shooting Dave the Stink Eye. The guy was hopping around like he just got invited to Freddie Mercury's last big birthday bash.

Drugs are bad...

[DONNIEP]

Drugs are bad...

When you snort enough blow to make your eyeballs bug out - yeah, definitely.

[BumBahDeeDah]

I wonder if Dave was super psyched this tour because it was his shot to re-establish his and Van Halen's legacy. He was certainly up to the task...

Is he just complacent now? Maybe he needs to be on a series of 90 day contracts?


He had just spent a coupla years auditioning for Van Halen in his own Van Halen tribute band so he was just back in and still on probation.

He does need to be tranq'd and tied to a chair and forced to watch and listen to this and compare and contrast and be honest with himself about who is the better sounding vocalist and who is the cooler frontman up there, 07-08 DLR or the current off book, vocally all over the place, fidgety kid lookin Dave?

[DONNIEP]

or the current off book, vocally all over the place, fidgety kid lookin Dave?

He'd say this one. Hands down.

[BumBahDeeDah]

He'd say this one. Hands down.

AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! !!!!!!


The funny thing is, what made him such a great frontman/vocalist/action figure/ hero How to many is what's making him seem silly now. His "gift" to not give a fuck. He gets up and nothin gets him down. Brave not to touch up vocals, but come on. It really seems like he's choosing to do some of these things he's doing vocally, or if he's messed up in the throat, he ain't gettin the help he needs.

[DONNIEP]

AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! !!!!!!


The funny thing is, what made him such a great frontman/vocalist/action figure/ hero How to many is what's making him seem silly now. His "gift" to not give a fuck. He gets up and nothin gets him down. Brave not to touch up vocals, but come on. It really seems like he's choosing to do some of these things he's doing vocally, or if he's messed up in the throat, he ain't gettin the help he needs.

Well, you can rest easy. Because, apparently, Dave can STILL sing the songs and can STILL pull it off. He's just choosing not to, for some retarded reason. Sabotage or whatever. But just as soon as Mikey comes back, OR as soon as he gets fired from VH, Dave will start singing just like he did just a few years ago. See, he's destroying his opportunity to gain fans OR retain fans just so he can take them all with him when he leaves VH. Or bring them with him in droves when he finally gets his (and mine) wish and has Mikey up there. Dave is sand bagging. So the ability is still there. But he just chooses to totally destroy his legacy and his legitimacy as a singer just so he can either get fired or Ed will bring back Mikey.

[BumBahDeeDah]

Ed generally sucks on that tour...

We're talking about Dave...

Indeed. Eddie can suck and unless he's really obviously terrible to EVERYBODY meaning non-fans, people who haven't listened to these records 25,000 times,people with NO musical experience, etc. Van Halen doesn't look bad. When Dave's bad, it's all people can talk about.

Hey, maybe that's the thing. Maybe Dave is figuring, "Hey, at least they still talk about me."

[DONNIEP]

Wanna hear LUTS?


http://www.theatomicpunks.com/audio/luts_ma.mp3

[DONNIEP]

Elvis can piss and moan all he wants to. Nobody really gives two shits anyway. But IF VH could pull off a better version - which they can't - then we'd all line up and throw money at the band like Mardi Gras beads at cheap whores.

[Romeo Delight]

Why do you think the atomic punks sound good? Its ok

[philouze]

Elvis can piss and moan all he wants to. Nobody really gives two shits anyway. But IF VH could pull off a better version - which they can't - then we'd all line up and throw money at the band like Mardi Gras beads at cheap whores.

The band can play it. Dave's the one who can't. He won't be able to remember the whole lyrics, and I think he'll pull a Vince Neil on this one.

[DONNIEP]

Why do you think the atomic punks sound good? Its ok

No, it's fucking awesome. Plus I know E hates them :biggrin:

[DONNIEP]

The band can play it. Dave's the one who can't. He won't be able to remember the whole lyrics, and I think he'll pull a Vince Neil on this one.

I was at the gas station near my office on Wednesday. And this fat dude with blonde scraggly hair gets out of a garbage truck and I swear to God he looked just like Vince. I mean the little goatee and everything. Hell, he could probably sing better than Vince too.

[chuckjitsu]

Listening to the shows from '07-'08 vs what was heard in '12 to varying degrees and on Kimmel is that Dave's voice sounded "drier" back then for lack of a better term. The best way to describe the opposite of that is how your voice can sound when you have a cold and mucus gets on your vocal chords- it alters the sound/timbre of the voice. I don't know how good those descriptions are. but that's the difference to me physically. The higher register stuff is Dave making the choice to sound worse, which I don't get.

[ELVIS]

It's the drugs, as seen in this clip...

[BumBahDeeDah]

Well, you can rest easy. Because, apparently, Dave can STILL sing the songs and can STILL pull it off. He's just choosing not to, for some retarded reason. Sabotage or whatever. But just as soon as Mikey comes back, OR as soon as he gets fired from VH, Dave will start singing just like he did just a few years ago. See, he's destroying his opportunity to gain fans OR retain fans just so he can take them all with him when he leaves VH. Or bring them with him in droves when he finally gets his (and mine) wish and has Mikey up there. Dave is sand bagging. So the ability is still there. But he just chooses to totally destroy his legacy and his legitimacy as a singer just so he can either get fired or Ed will bring back Mikey.

That's so crazy it could be true. I don't understand these guys.

But he ain't taking any fans with him based on these performances. He'd haveta earn them back, but how? I think this Van Halen is the Van Halen we'll have. Maybe Wolfgang leaves and Dave rallies for Michael Anthony and we get James LoMenzo (Verdine White? Billy Sheehan? LOL) I just think they make whatever decisions they want based on the "stick with 'em" fans like me.

It's hard for me to think I've got a good educated guess about this situation. Dave is responsible for the design concept of "Tokyo Dome". Dave chose the show. Dave vetoes songs. (That seems fucking strange. They can't overrule and say We're putting in As Is, and LUTS. We're gonna rehearse 'em and work 'em out for you to sing well. You should stand still and belt 'em out. You're a trouper, Dave.")

They definitely agree on smokescreens and secrecy. "I don't know where Dave is." , and the hint of the ship on the Roth Show. Then alluva sudden they're back, Is that to make us SO happy that they're back?

But of course, I don't follow other bands the way I do these guys. Are the Stones boards full of speculations and guesses/ Are people constantly asking if Keith and Mick are cool with each other nowadays? Of course, Keith and Mick are allowed to do outside projects and Mick has never been outta the band. But they have dissed each other.

Just some raggedy, random thoughts.

[BumBahDeeDah]

By the way, I think most hardcore Classic VH fans still enjoy the show, because they're singing so loud at a loud show that they don't hear Dave. After the last time I seent them, (MSG 3/1/12) It was only in the bar afterward that I realized that I sang HAIL better than Dave. No, I did.

And someone else said this here, I could swear, but it is true that DLR is becoming the caricature that people have been painting of him in the last twenty years or so.

I also think the Ed wants to stick with Dave because he knows he wasn't good in 07 -08 and Dave was and Dave stuck with him.

And no one else really wants to be around the Van Halens as the new lead singer, and they don't want Sammy back. People still say " David Lee Roth is back?" , and Ed can sell his guitars and amps and sneakers, Wolfgang can be in Tremonti and work on solo stuff, but Dave can't release the stuff with John 5 that only me and 37 other people will buy, that probably doesn't clash at all with Van Halen music. But dUg Pinnick is in 47 bands.

[BumBahDeeDah]

This wine is good. Is there anything left in that bottle?

"Push Come to Shove" is another one that would be easy for Dave.

[DLR Bridge]

Wolfgang can be in Tremonti and work on solo stuff, but Dave can't release the stuff with John 5 that only me and 37 other people will buy, that probably doesn't clash at all with Van Halen music. But dUg Pinnick is in 47 bands.

That was great BBDD. So fuckin' true, it hurts.

[BumBahDeeDah]

That was great BBDD. So fuckin' true, it hurts.

Maybe it's Dave's choice?

[ELVIS]

The bottom line is Dave is washed up...

[WARF]

The bottom line is Dave is washed up...

We're even more washed up for giving a fuck Dave is washed up....

[Va Beach VH Fan]

The "Ed throws a monitor" show, I was there.... (1:25:20 mark).....

[BumBahDeeDah]

The "Ed throws a monitor" show, I was there.... (1:25:20 mark).....

I thought that was remarkable. He got back to sing backgrounds during his tantrum and frustrations. I think he only missed once. What a vet. Pretty interesting.