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cadaverdog
11-10-2015, 11:17 PM
Didn't watch it myself but I did read several of the candidates don't think the minimum wage should be raised and it's too high already. To that I say horseshit. $15 sounds a little high now but $7.25 is a bit low. IMO $10 an hour would be a reasonable figure right now. I think it's ridiculous shitloads of people make less than I was making when I first started in aircraft manufacturing damn near 25 years ago. The company I worked for paid 100% of my medical and dental insurance too.

Seshmeister
11-11-2015, 12:45 AM
The American dream is over, it is now one of the least socially mobile countries in the world.

In other words if you are born poor you will almost definitely die poor.

Millionaires telling people they need to live on a working wage of $7 while CEO's who completely fuck up like the United Airlines twat get $20 million payoffs. Why so many working people vote for these people is bizarre.

cadaverdog
11-11-2015, 10:54 AM
The American dream is over, it is now one of the least socially mobile countries in the world.

In other words if you are born poor you will almost definitely die poor.

Millionaires telling people they need to live on a working wage of $7 while CEO's who completely fuck up like the United Airlines twat get $20 million payoffs. Why so many working people vote for these people is bizarre.

Because of the bullshit two party system we have here we don't get much of a choice of who we can vote for. If an independant ever gets elected that might change but until then we're stuck with what they give us. Name one candidate from either party that would actually rule the country by the peoples will. You can't because they're all just a bunch of greedy power hungry bastards.

Va Beach VH Fan
11-11-2015, 12:03 PM
Because of the bullshit two party system we have here we don't get much of a choice of who we can vote for. If an independant ever gets elected that might change but until then we're stuck with what they give us. Name one candidate from either party that would actually rule the country by the peoples will. You can't because they're all just a bunch of greedy power hungry bastards.


Well, it wasn't that long ago that regardless of which party occupied the White House that actual governing could take place.....

Let's be more specific - Any time prior to the black guy's first day in office, the same day which the Republicans proclaimed via a press conference that they were going to stomp their feet like children and block everything that he proposed....

That's not governing....

Kristy
11-11-2015, 04:02 PM
...it is now one of the least socially mobile countries in the world.

Yeah, unlike the Euro trash that keeps on moving here.

Kristy
11-11-2015, 04:05 PM
Didn't watch it myself but I did read several of the candidates don't think the minimum wage should be raised and it's too high already. To that I say horseshit. $15 sounds a little high now but $7.25 is a bit low. IMO $10 an hour would be a reasonable figure right now. I think it's ridiculous shitloads of people make less than I was making when I first started in aircraft manufacturing damn near 25 years ago. The company I worked for paid 100% of my medical and dental insurance too.

Yeah, I suppose $10/hr is livable when you're living rent free in your parents basement. @$18/hr is barely livable. Idiot.

jacksmar
11-11-2015, 07:50 PM
Well, it wasn't that long ago that regardless of which party occupied the White House that actual governing could take place.....

Let's be more specific - Any time prior to the black guy's first day in office, the same day which the Republicans proclaimed via a press conference that they were going to stomp their feet like children and block everything that he proposed....

That's not governing....

SonofVa beach, a mensa standout like yourself must remember george mitchell. you really should stay with your parties socialist government short comings and leave the first black president, the impeached hillbilly out of your race baiting meanderings...........

now you can get back in line to tweeze a couple blackheads from barry's back during his bath......

cadaverdog
11-11-2015, 07:56 PM
Yeah, I suppose $10/hr is livable when you're living rent free in your parents basement. @$18/hr is barely livable. Idiot.
If you raise the minimum wage to $15 you will no longer be able to live on $18 an hour moron. Business owners aren't going to suffer because they have to pay higher wages, consumers are.

Va Beach VH Fan
11-11-2015, 08:25 PM
SonofVa beach, a mensa standout like yourself must remember george mitchell. you really should stay with your parties socialist government short comings and leave the first black president, the impeached hillbilly out of your race baiting meanderings...........

now you can get back in line to tweeze a couple blackheads from barry's back during his bath......


I honestly don't know what "a mensa standout like yourself" means, but whatever....

You cannot compare what George Mitchell, or any party's filibusters during a certain timeframe to the flat-out obstructionism the Republicans have done during Obama's tenure....

jacksmar
11-11-2015, 08:47 PM
I honestly don't know what "a mensa standout like yourself" means, but whatever....

You cannot compare what George Mitchell, or any party's filibusters during a certain timeframe to the flat-out obstructionism the Republicans have done during Obama's tenure....

first off, you sure as hagar shit can. this partisan crap you're crying about has been going on since mitchell in the 80's....

which reminds me..........

What was Gary Hart's biggest mistake?
Not letting Ted drive Donna Rice home.

Va Beach VH Fan
11-11-2015, 08:52 PM
first off, you sure as hagar shit can. this partisan crap you're crying about has been going on since mitchell in the 80's....



Not to this extent it hasn't.

Seshmeister
11-11-2015, 09:27 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/34784476?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook

Seshmeister
11-11-2015, 09:29 PM
What was Gary Hart's biggest mistake?


Being born too early, would people give much of a shit these days?

cadaverdog
11-11-2015, 09:49 PM
Not to this extent it hasn't.
I gotta agree with the other guy. Partisan politics has been around since day one. The general public's just better informed nowdays.

cadaverdog
11-11-2015, 09:52 PM
Being born too early, would people give much of a shit these days?
Gary wasn't born to early. He got caught fucking around too early. If he had been elected president already everyone would have congratulated him on finding such a fine piece of ass. I wonder what she looks lke now.

jacksmar
11-11-2015, 10:22 PM
Being born too early, would people give much of a shit these days?

that's a huge "no".

that's the beauty of time. nobody cares anymore.

the socialist left will soon put chris hansen out of work...............

if fact, i can see that chris hansen stuff happening everywhere. just look at the hipsters on redditt......

coming to a school near you......

FORD
11-11-2015, 10:35 PM
Poor Gary was set up. He didn't even fuck that chick..... who later turned up as an "anti-porn crusader" for the Religious Reich. Which means it's a pretty safe bet she was playing for that team all along.

BCE payroll? Well who else wanted Hart our of the race??

Seshmeister
11-11-2015, 10:37 PM
Gary wasn't born to early. He got caught fucking around too early. If he had been elected president already everyone would have congratulated him on finding such a fine piece of ass. I wonder what she looks lke now.

It didn't help him telling the press 'Ok follow me then, and then when they did catching him red handed'. :D

Almost all politicians are psychopathic egomanic cunts but some are even more so than others. :)

jacksmar
11-11-2015, 10:37 PM
[QUOTE=Seshmeister;1897122][iframe]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/34784476/QUOTE]

shush, wasn't there a bay city rollers fan club meeting you were required to attend as sergeant at arms?

http://i2.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article6541321.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/JS62950551.jpg

shush, get me her number and her nudes please...............

FORD
11-11-2015, 10:40 PM
I wonder what she looks lke now.

She's actually aged fairly well for 57.....

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Trust+Screening+i1akxhaO9_Vl.jpg

incidentally, she supposedly lives in New Orleans, so you could always look her up.

Seshmeister
11-11-2015, 10:43 PM
shush, wasn't there a bay city rollers fan club meeting you were required to attend as sergeant at arms?


Very much before my time.

Funnily enough one of their daughters supported my band last year... :)

Seshmeister
11-11-2015, 10:46 PM
She's actually aged fairly well for 57.....



I think even you have to admit that's better than 'fairly' for 57. :)

jacksmar
11-11-2015, 10:48 PM
Poor Gary was set up. He didn't even fuck that chick..... who later turned up as an "anti-porn crusader" for the Religious Reich. Which means it's a pretty safe bet she was playing for that team all along.

BCE payroll? Well who else wanted Hart our of the race??

TARD, are demoKKKrats the only living organisms that don't fuck around? ................

just a few to clear things up for you: the clintons are/were swingers; FDR was fucking everything; JFK was fucking his brothers dates/wives; and barney frank is still gay................

Seshmeister
11-11-2015, 10:57 PM
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/trump-vs-fiorina-who-knows-putin-best/

Seshmeister
11-11-2015, 11:02 PM
There was a high level Republican advisor from the Bush years on TV tonight saying we are now in a 'post facts' era in politics.

The truth no longer matters and neither does evidence.

Most of the Trump voters know that what he is saying is can't happen but they will go with it because it's about belief and faith not what is real.

It makes you wonder if the the strong religious state of the US even now aids this...

jacksmar
11-11-2015, 11:10 PM
[iframe]http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/trump-vs-fiorina-who-knows-putin-best

got it. fact check wants a cat fight.............

FORD
11-11-2015, 11:14 PM
I wondered if anybody else caught Trump's bullshit about 60 minutes in that debate. I knew it was bullshit right away because...

1) 60 minutes rarely, if ever, does live interviews, so there's no "green room" where he and Pootie could have met.

2) This was actually the first episode of 60 minutes I'd watched since the Lara Logan scam, not intentionally, but I was watching the Seahawks game on an east coast CBS feed, and it just happenned to roll right into 60 Minutes immediately after the game. Saw all of the Putin interview - which was taped in Russia (even though Pootie was himself in NYC by the time it aired) and got about half way through the Trump interview before the stream crashed, so then I got high and went outside to await the Blood Moon Rapture (which sadly didn't happen. Well at least the Rapture part.......)

Seshmeister
11-11-2015, 11:20 PM
got it. fact check wants a cat fight.............

??????????????????

Why wouldn't you want a group to fact check all the politicians to save everyone else having to do it?

cadaverdog
11-12-2015, 12:31 AM
Poor Gary was set up. He didn't even fuck that chick.....
He set himself up. If he didn't fuck that chick he's a fag.

cadaverdog
11-12-2015, 02:33 PM
There was a high level Republican advisor from the Bush years on TV tonight saying we are now in a 'post facts' era in politics.

The truth no longer matters and neither does evidence.


It's not just politics. OJ Simpson was guilty as fuck and there was a shitload of evidence that was completely ignored including the fact he had a cut on his finger in the exact same spot one of the gloves did. It's quite possible even likely that Furman tried to manipulate the evidence to make it look like he cracked the case but there was plenty of evidence left that proved he was guilty. After the fact two of his lawyers, Shapiro and Kardashian basically admitted they thought he did it and one of the other ones slipped up during the Robert Blake trial and said the police tried to frame a guilty man in the OJ case. The physical evidence in the Mike Brown shooting in Ferguson got him aquitted but there's still a shitload of people that still think he is. Some people would rather believe a lie if it served them better than the truth every time.

Seshmeister
11-12-2015, 03:00 PM
It's pretty normal though, taking a step back from all the craziness of the OJ trial, that if the defence can show any police fixing of evidence the accused gets off whether he probably did it or not. It's a safeguard to the rest of us against being stitched up by cops.

Kristy
11-12-2015, 03:46 PM
If you raise the minimum wage to $15 you will no longer be able to live on $18 an hour moron. Business owners aren't going to suffer because they have to pay higher wages, consumers are.

Huh? ENGLISH - do you speak it, motherfucker?

Purporting capitalistic myths, dumbass?

Really, up and fucking KILL yourself already.

~geesh

Kristy
11-12-2015, 03:48 PM
Very much before my time.

Funnily enough one of their daughters supported my band last year... :)

http://cdn3.whatculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Steven-Seagal.jpg
Right.

Kristy
11-12-2015, 03:56 PM
that's a huge "no".

that's the beauty of time. nobody cares anymore.

the socialist left will soon put chris hansen out of work...............

if fact, i can see that chris hansen stuff happening everywhere. just look at the hipsters on redditt......

coming to a school near you......

Go fuck yourself, with the poorly translated, sticky-paged pop-up version of the Bible you think you believe in.

cadaverdog
11-12-2015, 04:03 PM
It's pretty normal though, taking a step back from all the craziness of the OJ trial, that if the defence can show any police fixing of evidence the accused gets off whether he probably did it or not. It's a safeguard to the rest of us against being stitched up by cops.
No one ever proved the cops fixed evidence in the OJ case but they did prove Furman was a liar and might be lying about what he found and where he found it. I figure he found the bloody glove near the scene of the crime and planted it but how could he know Kato was gonna say he heard a noise behind his room prompting the other cop that went there to look back there and find the glove? One theory would be the other cop was messing with evidence too. Who knows, maybe Furman was telling the truth and the other cop that lying.

cadaverdog
11-12-2015, 04:12 PM
Huh? ENGLISH - do you speak it, motherfucker?

Purporting capitalistic myths, dumbass?

Really, up and fucking KILL yourself already.

~geesh
You really are a dumbass. How's somebody gonna sell a $2 hamburger that costs the seller $5 to make and stay in business? Not only that but companies that pay more than minimum wage now are going to have to pay the people who were making more less to make the same % of profit. If you think the employer is gonna bite the bullet and make less profit you're dumber than I thought you were.

cadaverdog
11-12-2015, 04:18 PM
Huh? ENGLISH - do you speak it, motherfucker?

It's not my fault you can't read. Maybe you should have paid more attention in school but that would be kind of difficult considering you must be on the rag 4 weeks every month.

jacksmar
11-12-2015, 05:57 PM
Go fuck yourself, with the poorly translated, sticky-paged pop-up version of the Bible you think you believe in.

you want my attention? really?

the socialist left just got a new flag with a sticky shit swastika on 2 pieces of bread planted on it.

you may want to stay out of this conversation...............

FORD
11-12-2015, 06:10 PM
Jerksmear needs to go back to his previous brand of meth. His current brand is obviously not working well for him at all. :boom:

Kristy
11-12-2015, 06:30 PM
You really are a dumbass. How's somebody gonna sell a $2 hamburger that costs the seller $5 to make and stay in business? Not only that but companies that pay more than minimum wage now are going to have to pay the people who were making more less to make the same % of profit. If you think the employer is gonna bite the bullet and make less profit you're dumber than I thought you were.


Christ, you're a fucking idiot. Not even worth the argue.

Kristy
11-12-2015, 06:31 PM
It's not my fault you can't read. Maybe you should have paid more attention in school but that would be kind of difficult considering you must be on the rag 4 weeks every month.

Oh, the irony. Go back and reread your first sentence, shitface.

jacksmar
11-12-2015, 06:37 PM
...............

cadaverdog
11-12-2015, 07:49 PM
Christ, you're a fucking idiot. Not even worth the argue.
You'd have to gain a few points on the IQ test to become an idiot. If you can't understand the simple theory when labor costs rise prices have to rise to keep making the same amount of profit you're an imbecile.

FORD
11-12-2015, 07:55 PM
You'd have to gain a few points on the IQ test to become an idiot. If you can't understand the simple theory when labor costs rise prices have to rise to keep making the same amount of profit you're an imbecile.

Well that's the lie that the BCE Reverse Robin Hood bunch has been telling you for the past 35 years. But it's not reality.......

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTe-VWGWIAA2HNd.jpg

cadaverdog
11-12-2015, 10:59 PM
Well that's the lie that the BCE Reverse Robin Hood bunch has been telling you for the past 35 years. But it's not reality.......

You're just as stupid as she is. Where do you think the extra money to pay the increase in minimum wage is gonna come from? Do you think CEOs, COOs and other top management personell are going to give up any part of their compensation to pay for it? Fuck no they're not. We are you dumbfuck.