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Seshmeister
04-01-2016, 10:08 AM
Too long to cut and paste so click the LINK (http://harpers.org/archive/2016/04/legalize-it-all/1/)

Kristy
04-01-2016, 06:30 PM
Yes, let us know when that pussy country of yours legalizes weed.

Igosplut
04-01-2016, 07:52 PM
They don't call it dope for nothing....

Kristy
04-01-2016, 08:28 PM
But they you dope for something.

Igosplut
04-01-2016, 08:46 PM
Not following ya there sweetheart....

Igosplut
04-01-2016, 09:13 PM
Perhaps you were too stoned to type correctly?

cadaverdog
04-01-2016, 09:42 PM
Anyone who thinks legalizing hard drugs is a good idea is brain damaged. Legalize marijuana and make the penalty for even the smallest infraction for use or possesion of controlled substance a felony. But instead of putting first time offenders in jail offer them a chance to go through a program like they have in Washington state where you volunteer to be tested as many times and as frequently as ordered for a set period of time. Any positive results and you do a minimum sentence behind bars. Graduate from the program and you're free to go on with your life with no strings attached. Fail and face the consequences.

Igosplut
04-01-2016, 09:52 PM
The problem states have with legalizing pot is that it changes sentencing for drug offenders by reducing the sentencing charges on their convictions. If a felony conviction is null because of a change in the law, it a base for appeal for many priors.

Satan
04-01-2016, 10:01 PM
I certainly wouldn't legalize the hard drugs to the extent that weed is in some of your states up there now. But they should be decriminalized 666%. If you treat drug addiction as a health problem rather than a criminal problem, it will be a lot easier to get the junkies into treatment. Also, it reduces a lot of street crime, as you don't have drugs sold on the street, nor street crimes being committed to pay for them.

But no, I wouldn't have heroin edibles or any of the sort of things that have evolved in the legal/recreational/medicinal weed business. Though arguably they could put the cocaine back in Coca Cola, since it was an original ingredient.

Igosplut
04-01-2016, 10:08 PM
That will never happen. But pot is a non-issue and i still think MA will never legalize it just because they are too blue-blood about things like that. After all, they were the first state to outlaw happy hour....

SunisinuS
04-02-2016, 02:20 AM
Is this legal to drink...as Kristy is the critic....she tells us all what drugs to do and Twat is proper?!



I think they should legalize it all. The reason being...if behaviour is the only criminal element (being drunk is no defense to murder someone) then behaviour is the only reason to "control" via criminal behaviour. Legalizing is the only way to tell the sane from the insane. If you are "sick" on drugs...your behaviour will become clear very shortly. And God allows you to be you. So don't let the pharms and polotics determine your life.

More cash for the rest of us.




All you need:



Time is going really really really slow.....

cadaverdog
04-02-2016, 04:58 AM
If someone told me they flipped out after eating some pot brownies a few years ago I would assume the pot was dipped in Angel Dust, opium, codeine or some other hard drug but that was before I ate half a pot candy bar my buddy got as a free gift for buying pot at a new dispensary. I didn't flip out like this fuck but then again it wasn't my first rodeo. Not only did it taste horrible and left a greasy residue in my mouth and throat it made me start twitching like I was coming on to acid or just did a big line of meth that was supposedly cocaine. Luckilly that part of the buzz didn't last long or get quite as intense as I thought it might get. Took a couple bong loads of reggie and a few shots of Bailey's and I was fine. Turns out the candy bar was supposed to be 8 doses or whatever you call them.

Satan
04-02-2016, 12:37 PM
The problem with some of these edibles in the states that have medical, but not recreational use, is that they aren't standardized, so you could theoretically buy a big candy bar and find a lot more THC in one end of it than the other. And as cdog indicates, those things are not meant to be eaten in a single serving.

Washington state took a while to get edibles on the market. Several months after the bud stores opened. Part of that was a supply issue - the licensed growers had to produce a crop that could be converted into edibles, obviously - but the rest was testing and standardizing each product that went on the market. And if you buy a cannabis chocolate bar in a Washington weed store, it's intended as a "single serving".

http://blogs-images.forbes.com/julieweed/files/2015/03/evergreen-herbal-5-1940x1455.jpg

Wish they had more dark chocolate options though. Of course chocolate melts quickly down here in Hell, so I usually go with the Zoot rocks If I'm looking for edibles. Better value for the money and less of a storage issue in extreme heat.

http://www.cannablysslakestevens.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/zoot-rocks.jpg

Kristy
04-02-2016, 12:41 PM
Notice how slave SESH didn't respond?

Seshmeister
04-02-2016, 02:47 PM
I don't run my country.

Are you really at college?

DONNIEP
04-02-2016, 04:44 PM
Yeah, regardless of how well it works in other countries - you can't legalize hard drugs here. Too many Americans are too fuckin stoopid to be trusted to shoot up heroin recreationally. Is that even a thing? And honestly, do you want your kids wacked out on meth for three straight days just cause it's legal?

And even though I'm the Token Conservative here, I'm down for changing things up so individual users aren't being locked away for buying. Set a limit on how much you can have on you before you've committed a felony and just roll with it. And do like Dawg said with the treatment programs.

Kristy
04-02-2016, 04:48 PM
I don't run my country.

Are you really at college?

Yes. Oh, and I run it, too.


You pussy Snow Patrol fan.

SunisinuS
04-03-2016, 02:35 AM
Donnie behavior proves all. It is funny how the politicians cry.....omg the budget goes up every year! Derp....so does the population. If you have 1 firefighter for every 10 homes then...you know...if you have babies and there are now 20 homes...you have to add another firefighter. You see more crime because simply there are more people. Population rises, your elbow hits someone elses' elbow. We are rabbits running out of space....we fuck, we reproduce, we kill the planet. Ipso Elbow Factso.

If you have ever lived in major population centers and have also lived in small towns....THINK.

Seshmeister
04-03-2016, 05:44 PM
I'm not sure if people did click on the link - I was more interested in the first bit.




I’d tracked Ehrlichman, who had been Nixon’s domestic-policy adviser, to an engineering firm in Atlanta, where he was working on minority recruitment...

You want to know what this was really all about?” he asked with the bluntness of a man who, after public disgrace and a stretch in federal prison, had little left to protect. “The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”

I must have looked shocked. Ehrlichman just shrugged. Then he looked at his watch, handed me a signed copy of his steamy spy novel, The Company, and led me to the door.

Nixon’s invention of the war on drugs as a political tool was cynical, but every president since — Democrat and Republican alike — has found it equally useful for one reason or another. Meanwhile, the growing cost of the drug war is now impossible to ignore: billions of dollars wasted, bloodshed in Latin America and on the streets of our own cities, and millions of lives destroyed by draconian punishment that doesn’t end at the prison gate; one of every eight black men has been disenfranchised because of a felony conviction.

Kristy
04-03-2016, 06:20 PM
Old, old news, slave SESH

You might try living in the year 1987?

Satan
04-03-2016, 06:34 PM
So the fact that the entire "war on drugs" was a BCE invention to assault their political enemies doesn't interest you at all?

All the more ironic, given the fact that the BCE themselves were the biggest drug smugglers of the 20th century.

Seshmeister
04-03-2016, 07:04 PM
Was Nixon in the BCE or was there a NCE? :)

DONNIEP
04-03-2016, 07:08 PM
Was Nixon in the BCE or was there a NCE? :)

Please don't encourage him ;)