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Nickdfresh
02-13-2017, 07:16 AM
White House aide declines to back Flynn over Russia contact
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U.S. National Security Advisor Michael Flynn boards Air Force One at West Palm Beach International airport in West Palm Beach, Florida U.S., February 12, 2017Image copyrightREUTERS

Michael Flynn initially denied discussing sanctions but later said he could not be certain
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A top White House official declined in several interviews over the weekend to defend national security adviser Michael Flynn, amid controversy over his alleged contacts with Russia.
Mr Flynn reportedly discussed sanctions with Russian ambassador Sergei Kislyak in the weeks before the inauguration.
He denied talking about this issue but later said he could not be certain.
Any discussion of sanctions could have violated laws against private citizens engaging in foreign policy.
Who is Michael Flynn?

The people around the president
The controversy comes as Mr Trump faces his first major national security challenge, following the test by North Korea on Sunday of a ballistic missile.
Mr Flynn would ordinarily be closely involved in determining the US response to such a test.
How the controversy unfolded
Mr Flynn is known to have spoken with Mr Kislyak several times by phone in December.
Both Mr Flynn and US Vice-President Mike Pence denied that the two men discussed US sanctions imposed over Russia's actions in Ukraine and alleged hacking of the US Democratic Party.

Senior White House Advisor Stephen Miller declined to back Mr Flynn
But nine current and former officials later told the Washington Post that the issue had been discussed.
A spokesman for Mr Flynn subsequently backtracked, telling reporters that the adviser now said he "couldn't be certain" he had not discussed the sanctions, prompting speculation that he may have misled the vice-president.
Mr Pence and Mr Flynn reportedly spoke twice on Friday.
What is the White House now saying?

Stephen Miller, President Donald Trump's top policy adviser, declined to say when asked in a number of interviews whether Mr Trump backed Mr Flynn.
Mr Miller said it was not his place to comment on the "sensitive matter" concerning Mr Flynn, who was an early supporter of Mr Trump but whose position in the administration is thought to be under scrutiny.
Asked if the president still had confidence in Mr Flynn, Mr Miller responded: "That's a question for the president." Other White House officials also refuse to comment.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters on Monday that Mr Flynn and Mr Kislyak did not discuss lifting sanctions.
What is the president's view?
Mr Trump, who spent the weekend at his club in Florida, Mar-a-Lago, has yet to comment publicly. Mr Flynn was with Mr Trump at Mar-a-Lago over the weekend.

The president is expected to face questions on the issue during a joint press conference with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Monday.
Citing administration officials, the Associated Press reported that the president was troubled by the situation and uncertain as to whether he would ask Mr Flynn to step down.
Adviser under fire
Mr Flynn was an ardent supporter of Mr Trump during the campaign, and he has become a close ally of both the president and the president's chief strategist Steve Bannon.
But questions have been raised about Mr Flynn's closeness with Russia.
He attended a banquet last year held in honour of the Russian government, where he sat two seats away from Vladimir Putin.

My Flynn was pictured dining with Russian leader Vladimir Putin in December 2015
A top aide on Mr Flynn's team, Robin Townley, was this week denied security clearance by the CIA, preventing Mr Townley from taking up a post in Africa for which Mr Flynn had recommended him.
And Mr Flynn's son has attracted unwelcome attention - and reportedly a personal rebuke from Mr Trump - after tweeting about the so-called Pizzagate fake news story, which alleged a pizzeria was the nexus of a paedophile ring involving Hillary Clinton and one of her aides, John Podesta.
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My Amerikan bitches!!

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38954455

FORD
02-13-2017, 09:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXg5-cia47k

Nickdfresh
02-13-2017, 05:30 PM
The Donald is pissed supposedly, as is Pence. Apparently Flynn tried to circumvent U.S. intelligence surveillance by using encryption. Nothing fucking fishy at all..

Nitro Express
02-13-2017, 06:29 PM
Flynn is one of the best psychological warfare experts we have. He's not going to go anywhere. There's plenty of people who wish he would but dream on.

Seshmeister
02-13-2017, 06:37 PM
If that's one of your best then you're in trouble...

Nitro Express
02-13-2017, 08:25 PM
Flynn was brought in to clean up the intelligence community and was recommended by several people in the military for the job. The reason why is civilians who never served in the military were getting high positions in intelligence and getting us into wars. Iraq would be the perfect example of going into a war based of false intelligence. The military is tired of it. Flynn is hated by the likes of people like John Brennan. So this is a witch hunt more than anything. Hell. Barrack Obama talked to plenty of foreign officials when he was a candidate for president. If we were to enforce the silly Logan Act we probably would be arresting a big percentage of Washington DC. Now if you are selling out our country that's a different matter. All I can say is our CIA has done plenty of business with Mr. Putin. We paid Russia to access Afghanistan and bought equipment from them especially the helicopters that fly to high altitude. Since Russia is a nuclear armed power our military and their military are always in contact regardless of who sits in the White House. One thing to consider is Putin keeps the place stable. Better to have a guy like Putin in power who can keep it together and we can work with than to have that huge country break up with nuclear weapons all over inside it. Issues most politicians don't get and our military does and like most of the citizens the military doesn't trust our politicians either. So the bottom line is: We can stop going to war to go to war or we can have business as usual and most the US congress wants business as usual because they make money. Want to talk real crime. How about war profiteering? How about insider trading? How about having an illegal server with classified material on it? So this is all politically motivated mumbo jumbo more than any real issue dealing with national security. If the media and most the politicians were so concerned about our security they would be more concerned with who we let into our country. No it's get Flynn because he's going to step on our war profits. That's the reality.

Kristy
02-13-2017, 08:43 PM
Flynn is one of the best psychological warfare experts we have. He's not going to go anywhere. There's plenty of people who wish he would but dream on.

Oh, PLU-EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE

He's another Putin-bribed puppet.

Nickdfresh
02-13-2017, 09:57 PM
Flynn was brought in to clean up the intelligence community and was recommended by several people in the military for the job....

By committing treason? He's a whack-job and no one recommended him nor could most of the other brass stand him which is why he was largely drummed out...

It's funny to watch the cockroaches scurry when the light comes on - imagine if Clinton had talked to a Russian ambassador on an encrypted line when she wasn't in gov't...

Trump already has shown he's going to decimate his legions, and Flynny boy might be one of the first along with Preibus and Spicer....

Nitro Express
02-14-2017, 01:02 AM
By committing treason? He's a whack-job and no one recommended him nor could most of the other brass stand him which is why he was largely drummed out...

It's funny to watch the cockroaches scurry when the light comes on - imagine if Clinton had talked to a Russian ambassador on an encrypted line when she wasn't in gov't...

Trump already has shown he's going to decimate his legions, and Flynny boy might be one of the first along with Preibus and Spicer....

Treason? Please. He was unpopular because like Eisenhower, he was not a big fan of feeding the military industrial complex. People like Flynn can overthrow countries without a shot being fired. If you sell weapons you hate people like that. Oh well. As far as Spicer and Preibus are concerned they can get the axe at anytime.

Nitro Express
02-14-2017, 01:15 AM
Oh, PLU-EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE

He's another Putin-bribed puppet.

A polygraph test could find that out. You hold high security clearances you get random polygraph tests.

Nitro Express
02-14-2017, 01:16 AM
The best intelligence officer of his generation! Why isn't this the sound bite that recurs whenever Flynn's nomination is mentioned?

Over the course of the war in Iraq, Flynn found himself in a race against time trying to understand and defeat al Qaeda in Iraq, Politico explains. Flynn grew to discover that al Qaeda cadres were sophisticated men with advanced degrees, unlike their thuggish footsoldiers, and spent hours upon hours interviewing captured senior al Qaeda leaders. "During the course of those interrogations and hundreds of others in both Iraq and Afghanistan, Flynn concluded that what united the terrorist warlords was a common ideology, specifically the extremely conservative and fundamentalist Salafi strain of Islam," Politico says. Senior al Qaeda leaders, sophisticated men who could get a job elsewhere if they wanted, were "true believers, every bit as committed to their ideology and skewed moral universe as Flynn was to his own."

From this discovery, came a key insight: Radical Islamic terrorism was there to stay in Iraq and in the Middle East. Flynn tried to communicate that — and was angered that his alarmist intelligence dispatches were watered down as they made their way up the chain of command to the National Security Council and the president's desk. Infamously and disastrously, President Obama confidently described ISIS as a "JV" version of al Qaeda. By all accounts, the Obama administration simply did not accept that Sunni terrorism in Iraq and Syria was not "on the run," because it was politically and ideologically inconvenient. As a result, a lot of people died who might have otherwise lived, and Michael Flynn was canned.

As usual. The most competent get canned. No wonder the government runs like shit.

Nickdfresh
02-14-2017, 08:04 AM
As usual. The most competent get canned. No wonder the government runs like shit.

STFU! You don't know anything about this authoritarian loving whackjob!

He outta be charged!

Nitro Express
02-14-2017, 11:11 AM
STFU! You don't know anything about this authoritarian loving whackjob!

He outta be charged!


https://youtu.be/nfXJJpabUIo

Charged for what? Talking on the phone? As I said, there is no crime. Krauthammer is no fan of Putin or Trump but sees it the way I do. You are the maniac saying the guy committed treason. You sound like that crazy Keith Olberman screaming on his little podcast. It's all partisan arguing. The only real sin Flynn committed was he wasn't working for a Democrat president.

Nickdfresh
02-14-2017, 06:24 PM
If you think he was some sort of great American then you're an apologist fool like that InfoWhores retard...

He can be charged for attempting to make deals with a foreign gov't as a private citizen, which he was when he made the calls...

Nickdfresh
02-14-2017, 06:32 PM
And oh yeah, Flynn is a fucking liar! Even Trump says this. But tell me what a great public servant he is, higgy-baby...

Nickdfresh
02-14-2017, 06:36 PM
And oh oh yeah! Flynn is now under investigation by the FBI over the hacking scandal and it may be more encompassing over the Trump dossier with the Russians...

Kristy
02-14-2017, 06:45 PM
A polygraph test could find that out. You hold high security clearances you get random polygraph tests.

A polygraph test is an archaic instrument that not one of you failed musicians would ever play. Didn't you ever watch Perry Mason, numbnuts? Even a fictional character knew they were shit and to this day they're not even admissible in a court of law.
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Hey numbnuts, get.fucking.real."

Kristy
02-14-2017, 06:56 PM
Ha! Just in from the NBC "fake" news:

"The White House (i.e., Grumpy Trumpy) kept Vice President Pence in the dark for weeks about the warning it had gotten about national security adviser Flynn from the Justice Department, Pence's press secretary, Marc Lotter, said Tuesday. Pence did not find out until Feb. 9. Trump was first informed about the Justice Department's concerns regarding Flynn on Jan. 26, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said at Tuesday's daily press briefing."

Once again, here's the linky dinky for you fucking retards:

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/mike-pence-told-about-flynn-warning-11-days-after-trump-n720836

3 weeks in and the Administration of Orange is already ripping itself apart - like a factory tombstone.

FORD
02-14-2017, 07:25 PM
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Nickdfresh
02-14-2017, 07:40 PM
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I don't care who you that's funny... :D

Terry
02-14-2017, 09:14 PM
By committing treason? He's a whack-job and no one recommended him nor could most of the other brass stand him which is why he was largely drummed out...

It's funny to watch the cockroaches scurry when the light comes on - imagine if Clinton had talked to a Russian ambassador on an encrypted line when she wasn't in gov't...

Trump already has shown he's going to decimate his legions, and Flynny boy might be one of the first along with Preibus and Spicer....

Loyalty doesn't mean much with Trump. He's not going to think twice about getting rid of anybody, including Bannon, if the perception of them tanks to the point where it reflects poorly on [Trump]. This wouldn't be unique among presidents, either. Trump rewarded those who helped him get to the dance, but Trump doesn't owe his election to Preibus, Bannon, or Conway...certainly not Spicer.

At some point Preibus and Spicer will leave. Sooner rather than later, I can't say. Those two positions have a high rate of turnover by their nature.

Terry
02-14-2017, 09:38 PM
Despite, according to some, Flynn's poor professional reputation he garnered while working at the DIA, I find it hard to believe he was so stupid to lie about a conversation he had with the Russian Ambassador weeks prior to Trump being sworn in. I mean, Flynn initially denied the conversation even took place, then lied about what he did and didn't talk about.

The timing of the conversation was curious, as is Flynn's wishy-washy claim that he can't be certain as to if the Obama sanctions were discussed. This isn't some conversation he had at DIA several years ago, mind you, where it might be credible for him to claim he couldn't remember the particulars. In addition, if it was the case that Flynn lied to Pence about all of this, Flynn had to go.

I find it hard to believe Flynn spoke with the Russian Ambassador without any prompting from someone above him, but beyond the basic skeleton of what I mentioned above, I don't know anything beyond the bare bones of the story.

We'll have to wait for this all to unfold, I suppose.

Not a great start for this administration, from what I've seen so far. I take no relish in any of this. In terms of general competence, I would have expected more from Flynn, who at least had some experience in government prior to hooking up with Trump. Really ham-handed, and this compounded on top of all the other flubs doesn't paint a picture of a group of people who know what they're doing.

It's still early in the administration, and doubtless there is a learning curve. If fuckups like this keep piling on, more Republican congressman will start to turn away from the Trump Administration. One hopes Trump will be able to get the situation in hand, and not restrict the dismissals to Flynn if that is what is necessary to right the ship and have things roll out better: thus far, the people surrounding him aren't serving him particularly well from what I can see. Too much overreach and too much hubris far too early. Then again, maybe the staff are just reflective of their boss: it seems like everybody's foot is on the accelerator and nobody knows where the brakes are. Maybe that's the intent. Whatever the case, the optics look terrible. It would behoove them to get their legislative goals passed quickly, because more ineptitude is going to make that harder and harder to do. Is this behavior characteristic of how Trump ran his businesses?

Nitro Express
02-15-2017, 01:38 AM
Oh the whole Flynn thing is being blown out of proportion because some on the left want to spin it into supporting their Hillary lost to Trump because Putin rigged the election narrative. They are out to try and paint a picture of Trump and Putin being buddy buddy. The media is going to paint all sorts of pictures and people are going to believe what they believe. I think the country is pretty much divided now. Nobody is going to persuade anyone either way. Who knows why Flynn really resigned. Who cares. He was an employee. He's dispensable. I wish more people in Washington would resign. Many of them are incompetent or do nothing. The courts are politicized and legislate from the bench. Most the presidents are corrupt buffoons. The congress is a joke that never checks a bad president. The glory of it is there has been no money put aside for the government pensions. Some people won't be getting one and that will either be a sad or glorious day. Oh and the way we are going we will default on our debt. That will be fun too. So people can have their fun with this Flynn episode. More fun to come...

Nitro Express
02-15-2017, 01:43 AM
https://youtu.be/XnKGumVepFw

The penguin toe sucker chips in...

FORD
02-15-2017, 01:48 AM
I think he's sucking more than toes these days. I've never seen him look that flamingly gay before.

err... not that there's anything wrong with that. There are a lot of things wrong with Dick Morris, but that's not even in the top 50.

Nickdfresh
02-15-2017, 07:10 AM
Oh the whole Flynn thing is being blown out of proportion because some on the left want to spin it into supporting their Hillary lost to Trump because Putin rigged the election narrative. They are out to try and paint a picture of Trump and Putin being buddy buddy. The media is going to paint all sorts of pictures and people are going to believe what they believe. I think the country is pretty much divided now. Nobody is going to persuade anyone either way. Who knows why Flynn really resigned. Who cares. He was an employee. He's dispensable. I wish more people in Washington would resign. Many of them are incompetent or do nothing. The courts are politicized and legislate from the bench. Most the presidents are corrupt buffoons. The congress is a joke that never checks a bad president. The glory of it is there has been no money put aside for the government pensions. Some people won't be getting one and that will either be a sad or glorious day. Oh and the way we are going we will default on our debt. That will be fun too. So people can have their fun with this Flynn episode. More fun to come...

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Seshmeister
02-15-2017, 08:55 AM
A polygraph test could find that out. You hold high security clearances you get random polygraph tests.

You watch too much daytiime TV - polygraphs are around 50% accurate on a yes/no in other words they don't work at all.

It's junk science.

They can only help if you can fool the person into thinking they work.

vandeleur
02-15-2017, 08:57 AM
You watch too much daytiime TV - polygraphs are around 50% accurate on a yes/no in other words they don't work at all.

It's junk science.

They can only help if you can fool the person into thinking they work.

Fuck you,am telling Jeremy Kyle on you :)

Seshmeister
02-15-2017, 09:05 AM
Flynn is one of the best psychological warfare experts we have. He's not going to go anywhere. There's plenty of people who wish he would but dream on.

A few more predictions like that and you are going to be snapped up as a pundit on Fox... :D

Seshmeister
02-15-2017, 09:11 AM
Fuck you,am telling Jeremy Kyle on you :)

The one time I watched it I spent the whole show shouting at the TV - especially when the disclaimer comes up saying 'Lie Detector Practitioners say it is 97% accurate'. :D

vandeleur
02-15-2017, 09:30 AM
The one time I watched it I spent the whole show shouting at the TV - especially when the disclaimer comes up saying 'Lie Detector Practitioners say it is 97% accurate'. :D

It's seen it a couple times , it feels like an exercise in 90 % shaming the working class and 1.21 gigawatts of why we should have iq tests before you can be a parent :D

Although there was a time half the posters should have been on it to be fair :)

Nickdfresh
02-15-2017, 10:04 AM
Flynn is one of the best psychological warfare experts we have. He's not going to go anywhere. There's plenty of people who wish he would but dream on.

Yeah, it takes a total genius not to notice that U.S. intelligence would be monitoring your communications with the Russian Ambassador...

Seshmeister
02-15-2017, 05:03 PM
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381

18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

Kristy
02-15-2017, 05:15 PM
The penguin toe sucker chips in...

Another F A T, white, entitled male. Obama is the best shit that ever happened to them and their bank accounts.

Nickdfresh
02-15-2017, 06:37 PM
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381

18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

Actually, he could be prosecuted under The Logan Act, but probably won't be...


There are two laws that may have been broken here -- the Logan Act and the crime of making false statements.

The Logan Act makes it a crime for a private citizen to communicate with a foreign government without proper authority in an attempt to influence the actions of the foreign government. President John Adams signed the Logan Act in 1799 in response to the actions of a state legislator (George Logan) who apparently went behind Adams' back and traveled to France to try and negotiate peace with that country during the undeclared Quasi War.

Flynn is guilty of violating the Logan Act if he (1) had communication with a foreign government; (2) with the intent to influence that foreign government, (3) while being a U.S. citizen without the authority to engage in diplomatic discussions on behalf of the United States. If Flynn violated this law, he would be guilty of a felony and face up to three years in prison.

http://www.crossroadstoday.com/story/34503716/did-michael-flynn-break-the-law

Terry
02-15-2017, 06:53 PM
Actually, he could be prosecuted under The Logan Act, but probably won't be...


There are two laws that may have been broken here -- the Logan Act and the crime of making false statements.

The Logan Act makes it a crime for a private citizen to communicate with a foreign government without proper authority in an attempt to influence the actions of the foreign government. President John Adams signed the Logan Act in 1799 in response to the actions of a state legislator (George Logan) who apparently went behind Adams' back and traveled to France to try and negotiate peace with that country during the undeclared Quasi War.

Flynn is guilty of violating the Logan Act if he (1) had communication with a foreign government; (2) with the intent to influence that foreign government, (3) while being a U.S. citizen without the authority to engage in diplomatic discussions on behalf of the United States. If Flynn violated this law, he would be guilty of a felony and face up to three years in prison.

http://www.crossroadstoday.com/story/34503716/did-michael-flynn-break-the-law

Yes, but hadn't Flynn already been named to the NSA as part of the transition team when he spoke with the Russian Ambassador?

I'm not sure if his appointment, even though it was prior to Trump being sworn in, would or wouldn't negate Flynn being defined as a citizen without authority to engage in diplomatic discussions or not.

FORD
02-15-2017, 08:23 PM
I've read speculation on various boards that Flynn - as a retired general who is drawing a pension from the military - could even be prosecuted under the UCMJ (military law). One such person claimed that Flynn retired, but did not formally resign his commission, which technically makes him eligible to be recalled to duty, and therefore still subject to the UCMJ.

Seems like a bit of a stretch, but I doubt the military courts would take a treason charge lightly.

Nickdfresh
02-15-2017, 08:30 PM
I've read speculation on various boards that Flynn - as a retired general who is drawing a pension from the military - could even be prosecuted under the UCMJ (military law). One such person claimed that Flynn retired, but did not formally resign his commission, which technically makes him eligible to be recalled to duty, and therefore still subject to the UCMJ.

Seems like a bit of a stretch, but I doubt the military courts would take a treason charge lightly.


He can be called back to duty and be hypothetically prosecuted under UCMJ. But it would be a tough sell. I think outright treason is very difficult to prove here unless there's a lot more cat than what's been let out of the bag..

Nickdfresh
02-18-2017, 09:24 AM
Apparently Flynn took a lot of money from the RT Soviet propeganda network....

FORD
02-18-2017, 12:06 PM
Doesn't seem like Flynn has many friends at RT these days.....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T09IGb1f6S8

Kristy
02-18-2017, 12:26 PM
Still thinking creepy college professor guy makes you look intelligent eh, slave FORD?

FORD
02-18-2017, 01:05 PM
Still thinking creepy college professor guy makes you look intelligent eh, slave FORD?

You should pay more attention to Thom's program. You could learn some information which the corporate whore media doesn't bother reporting....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNDZnjMV8vY :bong:

Kristy
02-18-2017, 01:25 PM
Yay! Weed be be illegal once again. All these F A T Californians, Texans and New Yorkers will go home. As well as the asshole hipsters who sell it.

This is good news.

Nickdfresh
04-02-2017, 09:05 AM
"Immunity from prosecution means guilt!" --Mikey Flynn, disgraced corrupt cunt general and future South American military junta leader...

Nickdfresh
04-02-2017, 01:21 PM
Corrupt whore peddling himself to despots using his rank, should be court martialed and shot...

Michael Flynn Failed to Disclose Income From Russia-Linked Entities

By MATTHEW ROSENBERGAPRIL 1, 2017

Michael T. Flynn, the former national security adviser, in January. Mr. Flynn reported an income of $1.37 million to $1.47 million. Credit Doug Mills/The New York Times

WASHINGTON — Michael T. Flynn, the national security adviser who was forced out of the job in February, failed to list payments from Russia-linked entities on the first of two financial disclosure forms released Saturday by the Trump administration.

The first form, which he signed in February, does not directly mention a paid speech he gave in Moscow, as well as other payments from companies linked to Russia. The second, an amended version, lists the names of the companies that made the payments under a section for any nongovernment compensation that exceeds $5,000 “in a year.” That list appears to include all of the work that Mr. Flynn, a retired three-star Army general, has done since leaving the military in 2014, without providing compensation figures for any of it.

No reason was given for the discrepancy between the two forms.

The Russia-linked payments were detailed in a letter released in March by congressional investigators, and included a $45,000 speaking fee from RT, formerly known as Russia Today, a Kremlin-backed news network, for a speech in 2015 in Moscow. During the same trip, Mr. Flynn attended the network’s lavish anniversary dinner and was photographed sitting at the elbow of President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia.

Mr. Flynn has faced fierce criticism for the Moscow speech and for his lobbying efforts for Turkey. But the work paid well, and the disclosure forms showed income of nearly $1.5 million, a sizable amount for a man who left the military less than three years ago.

Michael T. Flynn stepped down as national security adviser amid a scandal surrounding his contacts with Russia before President Trump took office.

What Mr. Flynn, who spent most of his adult life earning a military officer’s salary, does not appear to possess is the kind of income-earning investment portfolio enjoyed by most wealthy Americans, including the numerous millionaires and billionaires in the Trump administration. His form listed assets valued at $380,000 and $800,000, most of which is tied up in retirement funds.

Mr. Flynn reported an income of $1.37 million to $1.47 million. The bulk — $827,055 — came from the Flynn Intel Group, the consulting business he founded after being pushed out as the chief of the Defense Intelligence Agency in 2014. The rest included speaking fees and income earned for doing consulting work and sitting on corporate boards, such as that of Adobe Systems, which paid him $125,250.

The speaking fees, all of which were from 2016, ranged from about $10,000 to about $22,000. He gave talks to relatively run-of-the-mill groups like the Lincoln Chamber of Commerce in Nebraska, but also to the David Horowitz Freedom Center in California, which the Southern Poverty Law Center describes as an anti-Muslim hate group.

It is unlikely that Mr. Flynn, who is seeking immunity from congressional and federal investigations into Russia’s meddling in the election, will match the same income this year. He shuttered the Flynn Intel Group at the end of 2016, and then was forced out of the White House in February for misleading Vice President Mike Pence about the nature of phone calls he had with the Russian ambassador to the United States in December.

The payments for lobbying work that Mr. Flynn did for the Turkish government — and did not disclose until March — were handled through the Flynn Intel Group, and are not listed separately on the disclosure forms. Mr. Flynn did not work directly for the Turkish government; the firm that hired him, Inovo, is owned by a Turkish-American businessman with links to leaders in Ankara and asked him to work on an issue important to the government.

NY Times

Nickdfresh
04-27-2017, 11:43 AM
Flynn was warned not to accept foreign payments in 2014
Associated Press Associated Press
CHAD DAY and STEPHEN BRAUN, Associated Press
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Documents released by lawmakers show President Donald Trump's former national security adviser, Michael Flynn, was warned when he retired from the military in 2014 not to take foreign money without "advance approval" by Pentagon authorities.

Also, the Defense Department inspector general's office confirms in a separate document that it is investigating whether Flynn failed to obtain prior approval.

The chairman and senior Democrat on the House Oversight Committee say they want the Army to rule on whether Flynn informed and asked permission for the payments from Russian and Turkish entities.

Flynn earned tens of thousands of dollars from Russia's state-sponsored RT television network and from a Turkish businessman linked to Turkey's government.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/flynn-was-warned-not-to-accept-foreign-payments-in-2014/ar-BBArrAj?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout

FORD
04-29-2017, 12:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxMFLERUgLg

Nickdfresh
11-10-2017, 11:24 AM
Well, Flynn is fucked now. May have been involved in a plot to kidnap a cleric hated and wanted by Turkey's irrational gov't, and Mueller might be angling to charge his son if Flynn doesn't cooperate...



Mueller Probing Possible Deal Between Turks, Flynn During Presidential Transition

by Carol E. Lee and Julia Ainsley

WASHINGTON — Federal investigators are examining whether former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn met with senior Turkish officials just weeks before President Donald Trump's inauguration about a potential quid pro quo in which Flynn would be paid to carry out directives from Ankara secretly while in the White House, according to multiple people familiar with the investigation.

Investigators for Special Counsel Robert Mueller's probe into Russia's interference with the U.S. presidential election recently questioned witnesses about the alleged December 2016 meeting between Flynn and senior Turkish officials, two people knowledgeable with the interviews said. The questions were part of a line of inquiry regarding Flynn's lobbying efforts on behalf of Turkey.

Four people familiar with the investigation said Mueller is looking into whether Flynn discussed in the late December meeting orchestrating the return to Turkey of a chief rival of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan who lives in the U.S. Additionally, three people familiar with the probe said investigators are examining whether Flynn and other participants discussed a way to free a Turkish-Iranian gold trader, Reza Zarrab, who is jailed in the U.S. Zarrab is facing federal charges that he helped Iran skirt U.S. sanctions.

Mueller is specifically examining whether the deal, if successful, would have led to millions of dollars in secret payments to Flynn, according to three sources familiar with the investigation.

The meeting allegedly took place at the upscale 21 Club restaurant in New York, just blocks away from Trump Tower, where Flynn was serving on the presidential transition team. Flynn was offered upwards of $15 million, to be paid directly or indirectly, if he could complete the deal, according to two sources familiar with the meeting.

It is unclear how Flynn, as national security adviser, could have successfully carried out either alleged request. But any deal in which a government official would be bribed to secretly act on behalf of a foreign government could potentially constitute multiple federal crimes.

Investigators also are looking into what possible role Flynn's son, Michael G. Flynn, may have played in any such efforts. The younger Flynn worked closely with his father at his lobbying firm, Flynn Intel Group.

Related: Flynn's Son Is Subject of Federal Probe

The elder Flynn was fired in February after just 24 days as Trump's national security adviser when it became public that he misled Vice President Mike Pence and other Trump officials about his conversations with the Russian ambassador to the U.S.

NBC News reported Sunday that federal investigators looking into Russia's intervention in the 2016 election and possible collusion between Moscow and the Trump campaign have gathered enough evidence to bring charges in the investigation into Flynn.

The grand jury is continuing to interview witnesses with knowledge of Flynn's business activities over the next week, two people familiar with the deliberations said.

The elder Flynn's lawyer, Robert Kelner, did not respond to requests for comment. The younger Flynn's lawyer, Barry Coburn, declined comment.

Erdoğan has repeatedly pressed U.S. officials to extradite the cleric, Fethullah Gülen, who lives in Pennsylvania. Turkey blames Gülen for the attempted coup in that country in July 2016. Erdoğan also has repeatedly raised Zarrab's case with U.S. officials.

Rudy Giuliani, who was a top Trump campaign surrogate alongside Flynn, is part of Zarrab's defense team. The New York Times reported that Giuliani met with Erdoğan in late February and discussed an agreement under which Zarrab would be freed in exchange for Turkey's help furthering U.S. interests in the region.
Image: Erdogan and Gulen
Embroidered images of United States-based Turkish cleric Fethullah Gulen and Turkey's Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan displayed in a shop in the Gaziantep market in Gaziantep, near the Turkish-Syrian border. Ozan Kose / AFP - Getty Images file

Speaking to reporters after the meeting, Erdoğan said he had previously raised Zarrab's case with then-Vice President Joe Biden and suggested Preet Bharara, the U.S. attorney in Manhattan, was acting on behalf of supporters of Gülen, according to the Turkish newspaper Hürriyet. Trump fired Bharara this past March.

NBC News reported Sunday that federal investigators were looking into whether Flynn tried to push for the return of Gülen to Turkey once in the White House in exchange for millions of dollars, and that Trump administration officials asked the FBI to review the Gülen case anew. Officials said the FBI denied the request because Turkey had not provided any new evidence in the case, which was reviewed by the Obama administration.

Extradition requests are processed through the State Department and U.S. justice system and are not determined by the White House or other agencies.

The possibility of the multimillion-dollar deal involving Flynn and Turkey arose as investigators examined Flynn's past dealings with foreign governments.

Flynn was paid $530,000 last year during the 2016 campaign for work he did during the campaign that the Justice Department says benefited the Turkish government. Flynn did not register as a foreign agent at the time, as is required in the U.S. for anyone working for a foreign government. His lawyer later said Flynn didn't need to register because his client was a Turkish businessman not a government official, though he opted to do so retroactively.

According to Flynn's Justice Department filing, his firm, Flynn Intel Group, was hired to gather information about Gülen, and to produce a short film about its findings.

The contract ended the day after Trump won the election.

As a top foreign policy adviser on the Trump campaign at the time, and then as national security adviser, Flynn played a leading role in shaping Trump's policy decisions on Turkey.

Among Flynn's decisions as incoming national security adviser was telling the outgoing national security adviser, Susan Rice, not to move forward with a plan President Barack Obama approved to arm Syrian Kurds in the ISIS fight. Turkey opposed the plan.

Obama officials, who had notified Flynn of the plan in early January because it would continue on Trump's watch, said they were surprised. Flynn said he didn't trust Obama on the plan, which the Trump administration approved after he was fired as national security adviser.

The decision on arming the Kurds came several weeks after Flynn held that key meeting with Turkish officials where the alleged deal for a "grab fee" for Gülen was discussed.

NBCnews (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mueller-probing-possible-deal-between-turks-flynn-during-presidential-transition-n819616)

FORD
12-03-2017, 05:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDM7yHJ5DOA

jacksmar
03-17-2018, 07:12 AM
OOPS!!!

Looks like its in like Flynn as to: The Fix

Another commie lib on the federal payroll outed like a San Fran bath house sissy. Andie Mcabe just fucked everything he touched.

Andie outed Flynn and got caught actually lying to setup Comey’s lie to Congress. Andie has fucked every other investigation he touched. He was the special counsel to investigate FISA abuse, Hillary’s emails, Fast and Furious, Lois Lerner and IRS abuse, Uranium One, the HillBilly sludge fund aka The Clinton Foundation.

If you are the typical leftist that really tosses a turd in your St Pats green beer...

Nickdfresh
03-17-2018, 08:18 AM
OOPS!!!

Looks like its in like Flynn as to: The Fix

Another commie lib on the federal payroll outed like a San Fran bath house sissy. Andie Mcabe just fucked everything he touched.

Andie outed Flynn and got caught actually lying to setup Comey’s lie to Congress. Andie has fucked every other investigation he touched. He was the special counsel to investigate FISA abuse, Hillary’s emails, Fast and Furious, Lois Lerner and IRS abuse, Uranium One, the HillBilly sludge fund aka The Clinton Foundation.

If you are the typical leftist that really tosses a turd in your St Pats green beer...

Sounds like you started drinking the hard stuff, and turning your liver green, again with your recycled bullshit...

jacksmar
03-17-2018, 09:51 AM
Sounds like you started drinking the hard stuff, and turning your liver green, again with your recycled bullshit...

The only recycled bullshit happening around here starts your keyboard.

I was drinking with the IndyCar guys for a week prior to last week. Last week was Betty Ford week. In anticipation of St. Patrick's Day.

By the way, last St. Patrick's Day was pretty damn tragic. I got so blasted I couldn't remember where I parked and I had to take a bus. To many people around here that may not seem like that big of a deal but I'd never driven a bus....

Nickdfresh
03-19-2018, 12:33 AM
The only recycled bullshit happening around here starts your keyboard.

Ha! Maybe, but at least it's my own recycled bullshit!


I was drinking with the IndyCar guys for a week prior to last week. Last week was Betty Ford week. In anticipation of St. Patrick's Day.

You amateur! Pussy!


By the way, last St. Patrick's Day was pretty damn tragic. I got so blasted I couldn't remember where I parked and I had to take a bus. To many people around here that may not seem like that big of a deal but I'd never driven a bus....

Okay, that was funny LOL

Nickdfresh
12-06-2018, 10:28 PM
Trump Kept Praising Michael Flynn, Only Now Robert Mueller Is Praising Him Too

HuffPost• (https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-kept-praising-michael-flynn-230748135.html)December 5, 2018

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump’s repeated praise for his first national security adviser as a good man who was treated badly by prosecutors appears to have ended, now that special counsel Robert Mueller is praising him.

Mueller revealed Tuesday night that he is recommending that retired Army Gen. Michael Flynn serve no jail time because of his “substantial assistance” in various investigations regarding Trump and his dealings with Russia.

Just a day earlier, Trump lauded a former business and campaign adviser for refusing to cooperate with prosecutors: “Nice to know that some people still have ‘guts!’” he wrote on Twitter about Roger Stone.

Yet by late Wednesday, Trump still had not weighed in on revelations that Flynn met with federal prosecutors on 19 occasions to help their various probes — including two that are not known publicly and whose details were blacked out in Mueller’s court filings.

Trump’s outside lawyer handling his criminal investigations, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, told HuffPost on Wednesday that there is no reason for Trump to attack Flynn because it does not appear that Flynn has given Mueller anything incriminating on Trump. “The president is confident that the general is telling the truth,” Giuliani said. “There’s no indication of any connection to the president. They’ve produced nothing on that.”

Giuliani said that if Flynn was actually an important witness against Trump, Mueller would not be letting sentencing go forward for fear of losing his leverage. Giuliani said he did not know what investigations were covered by all the redacted material in Tuesday’s filings but said he doubted they had anything to do with Trump. “He may have other things he’s cooperating about,” Giuliani said.

Trump’s silence thus far comes in stark contrast to his reaction last week to a guilty plea by his former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen for lying to Congress about Trump’s efforts to build a Trump Tower in Moscow.

“He’s a weak person and not a very smart person,” Trump said the following morning. “What he’s trying to do is end ― and it’s very simple. He’s got himself a big prison sentence, and he’s trying to get a much lesser prison sentence by making up a story.”

Trump appointed Flynn to run his National Security Council despite warnings from outgoing President Barack Obama about Flynn, whom Obama fired from a top Pentagon post. Trump wound up firing Flynn after less than a month on the job. The dismissal came 18 days after then–acting Attorney General Sally Yates informed the White House that Flynn had lied to the FBI about his contacts with Russian officials during the transition.

Trump claimed he had to fire Flynn because he lied to Vice President Mike Pence and because of negative press coverage. “I think he has been treated very, very unfairly by the media — as I call it, the fake media — in many cases. And I think it’s really a sad thing that he was treated so badly,” Trump said during a Feb. 15, 2017, news conference.

That praise continued for a year and a half.

“This man has served for many years. He’s a general. In my opinion, he’s a very good person,” Trump said in a May 11, 2017 interview with NBC News.

Even the day after Flynn pleaded guilty a year ago to lying to investigators, Trump continued to blame prosecutors. “It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!” the president wrote in a Dec. 2, 2017, tweet.

And early this summer, Trump told reporters that perhaps Flynn was coerced into pleading guilty and had not lied to investigators at all. “I feel badly for General Flynn. He’s lost his house, he’s lost his life. And some people say he lied and some people say he didn’t lie. I mean, really, it turned out maybe he didn’t lie,” Trump said.

Flynn is scheduled to be sentenced on Dec. 18. Prosecutors are set to file recommendations this week for sentences for Cohen from an earlier guilty plea and for former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort from his September guilty pleas on fraud and obstruction of justice charges.

The FBI has been investigating Trump and his campaign’s contacts with Russia since before his election. He openly praised the country’s authoritarian ruler throughout his campaign, and President Vladimir Putin’s spy agencies worked to elect Trump by stealing emails from Democrats and releasing them through an ally, WikiLeaks. Trump repeatedly praised WikiLeaks and pointed to the stolen emails as proof that Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton was corrupt.

Trump fired FBI Director James Comey not long after taking office and told first Russian diplomats visiting the Oval Office and then NBC News that he had done so because of the Russia investigation. Mueller, who served as FBI director under Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama, was appointed special counsel to continue the probe after Comey’s firing.

Comey has said his firing took place after Trump asked him to go easy on Flynn and Comey did not agree to do so.

This article originally appeared on HuffPost.