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twonabomber
03-18-2017, 06:24 PM
90 years old.

FORD
03-18-2017, 06:48 PM
The REAL King of Rock n Roll. No offense to Elvis - a great performer and an icon, but Chuck did a Hell of a lot more to create the music itself.

The Rolling Stones & Ac/Dc proudly claim Chuck's lineage, and every band that came after them built on it one way or another. The Beatles were big fans too, for that matter.

90's not a bad run for anybody, much less a rock n roller who certainly outlived damn near all of his peers (I think Jerry Lee Lewis & Little Richard are still around, but otherwise.... Think that's about it.)

Chuck will definitely be missed, but never forgotten. :(


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5madtiLf7DI

FORD
03-18-2017, 06:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpTpxbnBWYM

FORD
03-18-2017, 06:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMddte6yD2w

DONNIEP
03-18-2017, 07:04 PM
Didn't he steal all that from Marty? :biggrin:

Jimmy Page
03-18-2017, 07:07 PM
Rest in peace, Chuck.

Chuck loved the young white tail.

All my best,

JPP

FORD
03-18-2017, 07:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1oyvAMtFsk

FORD
03-18-2017, 07:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1LZuQ9E4JQ

FORD
03-18-2017, 07:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64GbValI_To

FORD
03-18-2017, 07:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htvPTP67qOQ

FORD
03-18-2017, 07:34 PM
Rest in peace, Chuck.

Chuck loved the young white tail.

All my best,

JPP


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkCoDycdGQA

Kristy
03-18-2017, 09:17 PM
Fuck him.

Berry was a pervert, rapist, and a serial wife beater and let's not forget his poop fetish. Sick fuck. I didn't mind when all of those filthy, cocksucking limeys ripped him off. He deserved it. Rot in hell, Berry.

jacksmar
03-18-2017, 09:28 PM
Years ago, we had to suffer through the mediocrity of folks like Chuck Berry & Elvis. Thankfully, today we have a talent pool like Justin Bieber & Kanye West, Timberlake, and Three 6 Mafia. The jealous inane persecutors that rode your coattails don't know what you meant to us.

I am fortunate to have been in the audience for 10 Chuck Berry shows.

Every guitar player, every guitar stage performer, every lead singer with a guitar OWES Chuck Berry.

Chuck was the guy that broke the shell. Chuck's writing was part of the performance.

Chuck Berry is the reason there is rock guitar.

We love you, Chuck Berry.

A very sad loss.

Seshmeister
03-19-2017, 12:22 AM
To be honest I thought he had died years ago.

Nickdfresh
03-19-2017, 01:05 AM
Fuck him.

Berry was a pervert, rapist, and a serial wife beater and let's not forget his poop fetish. Sick fuck. I didn't mind when all of those filthy, cocksucking limeys ripped him off. He deserved it. Rot in hell, Berry.

I usually hate you when you make posts like this, but here you have a point. He was a great and innovative musician, and a fucking creeper-weirdo at the same time...

Kristy
03-19-2017, 02:23 AM
Chuck Berry was known to be a violent man with an ill temper. He detested authority which was cool but he was such a dick about it. So he revved up standard 12-bar blues riffs and sung songs about stalking and raping teenage girls. Yeah, some pioneer he was.

Kristy
03-19-2017, 02:24 AM
And I BET that fucker voted for Trump.

Kristy
03-19-2017, 02:31 AM
AND! God damn it...

Johnnie Clyde Johnson was more Chuck Berry than Chuck Berry.
http://bluesfestivalguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Clyde-Johnson-2.jpg

This whole thread goes to show how suburban slave FORD really is.

Here is the "legacy" Chuck Berry left

https://youtu.be/QVF_w5XvlLg

Jérôme Frenchise
03-19-2017, 06:10 AM
https://vimeo.com/18623223

twonabomber
03-19-2017, 09:31 AM
Chuck Berry pissing and farting on hookers. NSFW

http://efukt.com/21881_Chuck_Berry_Farting_On_Hookers.html

"I can't kiss you, your face smells like piss!"

Jérôme Frenchise
03-19-2017, 09:37 AM
Chuck Berry pissing and farting on hookers. NSFW

http://efukt.com/21881_Chuck_Berry_Farting_On_Hookers.html

"I can't kiss you, your face smells like piss!"

You can hear the hooker think: "What a dick!" :biggrin:

Buck Cherry pissing off Keef the Riff: https://vimeo.com/18623223

Terry
03-19-2017, 09:40 AM
I usually hate you when you make posts like this, but here you have a point. He was a great and innovative musician, and a fucking creeper-weirdo at the same time...

Yeah, but then again that also summarizes so many other rock icons:

Elvis Presley
Jimmy Page
Jerry Lee Lewis
Michael Jackson

...and those are just for openers.

I mean, so what if Chuck liked to beat and rape women after surreptitiously watching them pee; nobody's perfect:D

I actually thought Berry had died years ago, too. Alas, now he is in that Great Ladies Room In The Sky, looking under the stalls as we speak...

twonabomber
03-19-2017, 10:20 AM
Buck Cherry pissing off Keef the Riff: https://vimeo.com/18623223

I remember Richards saying that during the filming of the concert, Berry kept turning up his amp and throwing the mix off. They had to run another amp down in the sub sub basement and mic that one.



I mean, so what if Chuck liked to beat and rape women after surreptitiously watching them pee; nobody's perfect:D


Everyone's got a kink.

FORD
03-19-2017, 12:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w_ZQhFgtYE

FORD
03-19-2017, 12:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4u4FSTxd3s

vandeleur
03-19-2017, 02:10 PM
I remember Richards saying that during the filming of the concert, Berry kept turning up his amp and throwing the mix off. They had to run another amp down in the sub sub basement and mic that one.



Everyone's got a kink.

Doesn't he threaten Richards ???? I may have been squiffy when I watched it

Terry
03-19-2017, 04:53 PM
I do recall during the Hail Hail Rock and Roll movie that Richards and Berry had a bit of tension during rehearsals for the song Carol: as demonstrated in the thread clip, Berry was showing Richards how [Richards] was getting the phrasing of the intro bend wrong.

There was a scene in the movie from the actual concert where Berry was trying to change the key of one of the songs they rehearsed (I can't remember which at the moment), and go to a different key mid-song, while the concert was going on. So Berry starts playing his guitar in (if I remember correctly) a key one whole step (or maybe it was a half step) above the key the rest of the band has rehearsed it in and were (logically) then performing it live in. Berry wanders over to Richards onstage while playing in a different key and makes a body motion to indicate he wanted Richards to follow suit in terms of changing the key. Richards kept playing in the key the band had rehearsed it in and shook his head "no".

Part of what caused Richards to organize that Berry concert in the first place (outside of The Stones being unable to mount a tour after Dirty Work was completed and basically not speaking to each other) was that Richards idolized Berry's music. Richards made lengthy comments in interviews after the movie came out - and also some in the movie itself - about how as a live performer by the time the mid 1980s rolled around Berry had taken this really peculiar approach to his live performances for 2 decades. Basically, Berry would instruct the promoter of wherever he was performing to provide Berry with a band to back him up (!)...I mean, Berry would literally turn up at a gig, jump onstage and play with a different group of musicians at every gig without even having as much as a single rehearsal with any of them. Berry just took it for granted these different bands he played with each night would KNOW the material. I think in the Hail Hail movie (I haven't seen it in ages) Bruce Springsteen talks about being in one of those many one-nighter Chuck Berry backup bands in the early 1970s before Springsteen got famous, and what a singularly bizarre experience it was.

As one could imagine with such a touring arrangement, a lot of those performances probably sounded like what they were: Chuck Berry playing behind shitty backup bands that were under rehearsed. Part of Richards getting involved, picking the musicians for the Hail Hail band (including Berry's old piano player Johnnie Jonhson) and making sure the filmed concert was amply rehearsed in advance was to ensure the performance was listenable and not a bunch of no-name jerkoffs who didn't know the material as well as they should backing up Berry at some forgettable gig held at a County Fair. So when Berry tried to change keys mid-song (probably the remnants of Berry's touring days with pick-up bands, where he would do things like that just to fuck with the musicians backing him onstage - as if they probably weren't struggling enough already!) during the filming of Hail Hail, Richards shut that nonsense down in a hurry, with his side to side head shake basically telling Berry "if you wanna revert to your old 'I don't give a fuck about what I'm doing onstage' routine, have at it - the rest of us are staying in the key we rehearsed it in, so YOU will look like the fuckup here, not us."

I think Richards said in a couple of interviews after the movie came out that he was thinking of pulling a knife out on Berry at one point during the rehearsals, because Berry was being difficult. However, by the time the late 1980s rolled around, Richards would often adopt his 'Keith Richards Rock and Roll Outlaw Tough Guy' persona in ways that weren't nearly as convincing as they were ten years earlier, when he actually WAS one...so I wouldn't be surprised if Richards was bullshitting about the Berry/Richards confrontation or indulging in a bit of hyperbole. I mean, doubtless Richards has lived a rough rock and roll life and done it largely on his terms, but potentially he is just as full of shit as anybody, you know?

twonabomber
03-19-2017, 04:56 PM
Doesn't he threaten Richards ???? I may have been squiffy when I watched it

I think so. They might threaten each other in it!

I have the special edition but I don't remember if Taylor Hackford touched on that in the extra footage.

twonabomber
03-19-2017, 05:01 PM
Part of what caused Richards to organize that Berry concert in the first place (outside of The Stones being unable to mount a tour after Dirty Work was completed and basically not speaking to each other) was that Richards idolized Berry's music. Richards made lengthy comments in interviews after the movie came out - and also some in the movie itself - about how as a live performer by the time the mid 1980s rolled around Berry had taken this really peculiar approach to his live performances for 2 decades. Basically, Berry would instruct the promoter of wherever he was performing to provide Berry with a band to back him up (!)...I mean, Berry would literally turn up at a gig, jump onstage and play with a different group of musicians at every gig without even having as much as a single rehearsal with any of them. Berry just took it for granted these different bands he played with each night would KNOW the material. I think in the Hail Hail movie (I haven't seen it in ages) Bruce Springsteen talks about being in one of those many one-nighter Chuck Berry backup bands in the early 1970s before Springsteen got famous, and what a singularly bizarre experience it was.



Yup.

Berry shows up at the airport with his guitar. Promoter has a rental car waiting, Berry drives it to the venue. Berry insists on being paid cash upon arrival. Backing band is ready. Berry finishes the show and drives back to the airport.

Johnnie Johnson was driving a bus or something before the movie.

Terry
03-19-2017, 05:59 PM
Yup.

Berry shows up at the airport with his guitar. Promoter has a rental car waiting, Berry drives it to the venue. Berry insists on being paid cash upon arrival. Backing band is ready. Berry finishes the show and drives back to the airport.

Johnnie Johnson was driving a bus or something before the movie.

And Richards said he thought a lot of that touring strategy had to due with Berry being a loner and not wanting to get ripped off. Berry, once he began touring with those one-nighter pickup bands/cash up front conditions, would not take the stage unless he had been paid in cash upon arrival. I think I also had read where Berry would put the cash in his guitar case and the guitar case itself would be onstage within Berry's sight at all times while he was performing. Like, Berry wasn't taking ANY chances with his money, because Berry had been ripped off a few times in the 50s and early 60s and wasn't trusting ANYONE by the time 1965 rolled around.

FORD
03-19-2017, 08:38 PM
Apparently when he was inducted into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame, he didn't even bring his guitar with him. Never saw Chuck with anything other than a Gibson ES-335 other than here. Apparently this is a borrowed Strat (Clapton's, maybe??) and he doesn't seem all that comfortable with it.....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrhB-sb6Svo

Kristy
03-19-2017, 09:55 PM
This is why slave FORD is such a hippie and a dumbass.

Chuck Berry was KNOWN for playing a Gibson ES-350 In fact, Gibson put them in production as a signature series and the ES-350 was also played by

http://www.genesis-publications.com/assets/images/jimmypagebyrosshalfin.jpg

That's right: douchesnot fucktard limey cocksucker central.


Slave FORD should self-ban for 6 years due to his post
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/ancientscout/Chuck%20Berry.jpg

Dead Chuck agrees


Oh, and guitar GAWD Larry Carlton is who made the ES-335 famous
http://images.gibson.com/Lifestyle/English/aaFeaturesImages2008pt2/Larry%20Carlton%2005.jpg

You snotnozzle

Kristy
03-19-2017, 09:59 PM
This is fucking RAWKS I cum in my pants every time I hear it

https://youtu.be/EvDZxmDMuT8

Now, there is a man who knows how to manipulate a ES-335.

You snotnozzle ass Nazi

FORD
03-19-2017, 11:07 PM
Horseshit. Anybody who ever played guitar for Mealy Spam is automatically disqualified.

FORD
03-19-2017, 11:55 PM
This is why slave FORD is such a hippie and a dumbass.

Chuck Berry was KNOWN for playing a Gibson ES-350 In fact, Gibson put them in production as a signature series and the ES-350 was also played by



In the words of Emperor Cheetus Maximus..... WRONG!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yii1u2Lz-II

http://www.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle/Features/en-us/gibson-es-335-0311-2011.aspx

http://guitaresdelegende.e-monsite.com/medias/images/chuck-berry-2part-1.jpg

Nitro Express
03-20-2017, 01:01 AM
Chuck Berry pissing and farting on hookers. NSFW

http://efukt.com/21881_Chuck_Berry_Farting_On_Hookers.html

"I can't kiss you, your face smells like piss!"

Hope she got paid well. I wonder if "drink my piss and taste my fart" Berry paid her in full before the performance started?

Nitro Express
03-20-2017, 01:03 AM
Chuck Berry was known to be a violent man with an ill temper. He detested authority which was cool but he was such a dick about it. So he revved up standard 12-bar blues riffs and sung songs about stalking and raping teenage girls. Yeah, some pioneer he was.

He was an asshole.

Nitro Express
03-20-2017, 01:06 AM
90 years old.

Yup. The first thing Chuck saw after he kicked it was the devil bent over telling Chuck to kiss his asshole and then the devil had a wet fart of molten lava. Smell and taste it Chuck the devil said.

Jimmy Page
03-20-2017, 08:08 AM
Chuck Berry was KNOWN for playing a Gibson ES-350 In fact, Gibson put them in production as a signature series and the ES-350 was also played by

http://www.genesis-publications.com/assets/images/jimmypagebyrosshalfin.jpg



Dearest Kristy,

Thanks for the mention.

All my love,

JPP

Terry
03-20-2017, 08:08 PM
Horseshit. Anybody who ever played guitar for Mealy Spam is automatically disqualified.

Really?

I've always thought Larry Carlton was quite good.

FORD
03-20-2017, 09:09 PM
Really?

I've always thought Larry Carlton was quite good.

To be fair, I haven't heard any of his other stuff. Hell, I'd probably think the same thing about Satriani if I only knew him from being in Chickenshit.

vandeleur
03-20-2017, 09:25 PM
To be fair, I haven't heard any of his other stuff. Hell, I'd probably think the same thing about Satriani if I only knew him from being in Chickenshit.

Satch used to be good , Hagar brought him down to his level...... that and the fat bass player :D

Terry
03-20-2017, 10:22 PM
Satch used to be good , Hagar brought him down to his level...... that and the fat bass player :D

Well, Satriani isn't much of a songwriter. Certainly not in terms of writing tunes that involve a vocalist. That was the case before he hooked up with Hagar. Thus, stands to reason Chickenfoot wasn't going to produce any "new classics" or "instant classics" or whatever you want to call it. Satriani's forte has always been in the instrumental milieu.

Terry
03-20-2017, 10:25 PM
To be fair, I haven't heard any of his other stuff. Hell, I'd probably think the same thing about Satriani if I only knew him from being in Chickenshit.

I liked what Carlton did with Steely Dan, and I like Steely Dan, as well.

Aja is a great album.

I wouldn't put Steely Dan's work up there in my own personal top 50 albums I like to listen to...maybe not even in the top 100, but I like 'em.

vandeleur
03-20-2017, 10:28 PM
Well, Satriani isn't much of a songwriter. Certainly not in terms of writing tunes that involve a vocalist. That was the case before he hooked up with Hagar. Thus, stands to reason Chickenfoot wasn't going to produce any "new classics" or "instant classics" or whatever you want to call it. Satriani's forte has always been in the instrumental milieu.

Yeah , when I said good I meant not cloaked in the stench of hagard :D
He wrote some good guitar tunes over a couple of cd's . Always with me, rubina etc but not actually "songs"

Terry
03-20-2017, 10:42 PM
Yeah , when I said good I meant not cloaked in the stench of hagard :D
He wrote some good guitar tunes over a couple of cd's . Always with me, rubina etc but not actually "songs"

I mean, G3-type tours and settings would be the types of things that I tend to think would showcase Satriani's style the best, much in the way instrumental music where Satriani's guitar is the focal point would suit his style best in terms of studio work.

All of that isn't necessarily minimizing Satriani's technical ability, or musicianship, but the choice of Satriani for Chickenfoot just felt wrong from the get-go, even strictly on paper. Like, I can't imagine a longtime fan of Satriani's being happy Satriani was writing music with Sammy Hagar. As you said, that arrangement cheapens Satriani in terms of him wasting his talent...or putting what he is best at to one side in order to step into a traditional rock combo lineup and try and fill a role/style that isn't what he is best known for (and hasn't exactly raised a lot of enthusiasm for with either of the Chickenfoot releases).

Terry
03-20-2017, 10:43 PM
I mean, Satriani's good, but he isn't Chuck Berry:thumb:

Nitro Express
03-21-2017, 01:42 AM
I liked what Carlton did with Steely Dan, and I like Steely Dan, as well.

Aja is a great album.

I wouldn't put Steely Dan's work up there in my own personal top 50 albums I like to listen to...maybe not even in the top 100, but I like 'em.

The Cuervo gold the fine Columbian let's make tonight a wonderful thing....

Nitro Express
03-21-2017, 01:44 AM
I mean, G3-type tours and settings would be the types of things that I tend to think would showcase Satriani's style the best, much in the way instrumental music where Satriani's guitar is the focal point would suit his style best in terms of studio work.

All of that isn't necessarily minimizing Satriani's technical ability, or musicianship, but the choice of Satriani for Chickenfoot just felt wrong from the get-go, even strictly on paper. Like, I can't imagine a longtime fan of Satriani's being happy Satriani was writing music with Sammy Hagar. As you said, that arrangement cheapens Satriani in terms of him wasting his talent...or putting what he is best at to one side in order to step into a traditional rock combo lineup and try and fill a role/style that isn't what he is best known for (and hasn't exactly raised a lot of enthusiasm for with either of the Chickenfoot releases).

Has Sam managed to dress Satch in a Mexican sombrero and SpongeBob Square Pants pajama bottoms yet?

Terry
03-21-2017, 10:02 PM
Has Sam managed to dress Satch in a Mexican sombrero and SpongeBob Square Pants pajama bottoms yet?

My eyes are hurting from rolling upward!

Fuckin' Hagar. Hard rock's half-assed answer to Jimmy Buffett, although at least Buffett has penned some music I actually like.

Let's see, it's 1985, so I guess I'll join David Lee Roth's old band and start acting like Roth while simultaneously razzing Roth's contributions to the band a la 'Van Halen weren't REALLY successful until I hooked up with them.'

Oh! Now it's 1991. I guess I'll open a cantina in Mexico, take a page (or ten) out of Jimmy Buffett's book and reinvent myself as another 'Mayor Of Vacation Town'...just like Buffett did!

Such an average talent with delusions of grandeur, actually comparing what he has done to Zeppelin and The Stones ("look at me! I'm in the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame!).

I don't even think Satriani is with the group anymore, or at least he isn't currently touring with them.

Whatever. The Red Rocker has made some dough over the years. Doubtless the guy doesn't give two shits what people who aren't buying his products think about him. However, he so obviously wants to have his tenure in Van Halen equal to Roth's in the public mind, and it just hasn't gotten there. He clearly wants one more tour with Van Halen to rectify the 2004 debacle ("hey, man, I couldn't bail even though I knew Eddie was fucked up because I had signed a contract and the promoters would have sued me!" all of which is true enough, but the fact remains he went ahead and did the tour anyway).

Fuckin' nut wrangler.

Jérôme Frenchise
03-22-2017, 05:48 AM
Fuck Berry...
Like every time a rock legend kicks it, my band will play one of his songs. So last Monday night after rehearsing our own stuff we went playing Johnny B. Goode 6 times in a row :rolleyes: - the last two linked directly. Our drummer, who is an excellent one but 15 years younger and drumming for other (electro...) bands, quit yesterday... Doesn't like rock, though he can play it damn well and did for the last 18 months. Another drummer was waiting to step in and we've already hired him, but hey! Fuck Berry, really...
Or maybe it will prove to be no worse.

Nickdfresh
03-22-2017, 07:47 AM
My eyes are hurting from rolling upward!

Fuckin' Hagar. Hard rock's half-assed answer to Jimmy Buffett, although at least Buffett has penned some music I actually like.
....
Fuckin' nut wrangler.


Buffet is the last, and one of a series of "musicians" that Clichagar mimicked in his career. He coped Buffet's aging white guy on terminal vacation shtick, but before that he did the same thing to others. You can see vids of him copying different styles from AM lovey-dovey ballads to rockers that coped the likes of Ted Nugent and Peter Frampton as he vacillated between subpar pop and rock standards that defined his career prior to his unholy union with the Van Halen brothers...

Terry
03-22-2017, 09:54 PM
Buffet is the last, and one of a series of "musicians" that Clichagar mimicked in his career. He coped Buffet's aging white guy on terminal vacation shtick, but before that he did the same thing to others. You can see vids of him copying different styles from AM lovey-dovey ballads to rockers that coped the likes of Ted Nugent and Peter Frampton as he vacillated between subpar pop and rock standards that defined his career prior to his unholy union with the Van Halen brothers...

Hey, man, you take that shit back!

Ted Nugent and Peter Frampton could only DREAM of writing something as good as Your Love Is Driving Me Crazy...


...or Three Lock Box


...of I've Done Everything For You


...or Give To Live


...or any set of lyrics that uses the word 'jive' multiple times

twonabomber
03-22-2017, 10:11 PM
Woo!

Hey now!

All right!

Nitro Express
03-22-2017, 10:19 PM
My eyes are hurting from rolling upward!

Fuckin' Hagar. Hard rock's half-assed answer to Jimmy Buffett, although at least Buffett has penned some music I actually like.

Let's see, it's 1985, so I guess I'll join David Lee Roth's old band and start acting like Roth while simultaneously razzing Roth's contributions to the band a la 'Van Halen weren't REALLY successful until I hooked up with them.'

Oh! Now it's 1991. I guess I'll open a cantina in Mexico, take a page (or ten) out of Jimmy Buffett's book and reinvent myself as another 'Mayor Of Vacation Town'...just like Buffett did!

Such an average talent with delusions of grandeur, actually comparing what he has done to Zeppelin and The Stones ("look at me! I'm in the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame!).

I don't even think Satriani is with the group anymore, or at least he isn't currently touring with them.

Whatever. The Red Rocker has made some dough over the years. Doubtless the guy doesn't give two shits what people who aren't buying his products think about him. However, he so obviously wants to have his tenure in Van Halen equal to Roth's in the public mind, and it just hasn't gotten there. He clearly wants one more tour with Van Halen to rectify the 2004 debacle ("hey, man, I couldn't bail even though I knew Eddie was fucked up because I had signed a contract and the promoters would have sued me!" all of which is true enough, but the fact remains he went ahead and did the tour anyway).

Fuckin' nut wrangler.

Sammy on the surface seems like the happy go lucky hippie but the guy's dad was a boxer and Sam grew up with that mindset. The guy wants to win and he's got a huge ego. Sam is a type A personality in a type B container. Sam does not like Dave. Same does not care about Dave. Sam wants to mop the floor with Dave. Sam can sing and Dave can't. Dave is old, and his voice is gone. Sam can still sing. Sam wants to kick Dave's ass and go out on top. Sure Sam is rich. Sure Sam shouldn't even care but Sam has that boxer ego. He wants blood and it's Dave's blood he wants.

FORD
03-22-2017, 10:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V90yQLGNiao

Terry
03-23-2017, 08:57 PM
Sammy on the surface seems like the happy go lucky hippie but the guy's dad was a boxer and Sam grew up with that mindset. The guy wants to win and he's got a huge ego. Sam is a type A personality in a type B container. Sam does not like Dave. Same does not care about Dave. Sam wants to mop the floor with Dave. Sam can sing and Dave can't. Dave is old, and his voice is gone. Sam can still sing. Sam wants to kick Dave's ass and go out on top. Sure Sam is rich. Sure Sam shouldn't even care but Sam has that boxer ego. He wants blood and it's Dave's blood he wants.

Yeah, but from where I sit, it's all moot on the part of what Hagar wants now.

"Sam is a type A personality in a type B container"?! Abso-fucking-LOOTley!!!

Sam had virtually just as many tours and albums with Van Halen as Dave did to get that floor-mopping job done. Far as album sales between the two eras, it's not even remotely close. Not that sales are indicative of quality (not to me, anyway) but if that's the metric Hagar is going by...sorry.

Doubtless Hagar these days can still sing in a manner that isn't nearly as cringe-worthy when comparing it to 20-30 years ago as it is when Dave does. Dave's just...done. Can't jump. Can't scream. Can't sing in key. Dave got old. What Dave did back in the late 1970s and 1980s really wasn't DESIGNED to age gracefully...or intact...and it hasn't. He passed that final endpoint for me 9 years ago, and it's been a slow walk downhill far as his abilities go ever since.

Even if Sam cobbles together another tour with the brothers and drags Mike along, it's not going to matter. Because as long as all four of them are still drawing breath and still able to get vertical, the CVH lineup is what people want to see. They'll take Sam Halen if that's the only option available, but they'd prefer CVH. Even with a greatly diminished Roth at the helm.

CVH is bulletproof. The 6-pack and the standards of excellence CVH set during their touring years...that legend just gets stronger, even as the band itself gets older, slower and weaker.

CVH = Timeless

Sam Halen/Van Hagar = commercially timely in the 1980s, but has dated about as well as Aqua Net, Capri pants and synth-heavy, electronic drum-driven tunes about love with lyrics from Hallmark

It just is, you know.

Terry
03-23-2017, 08:58 PM
Woo!

Hey now!

All right!

Those lyrics...are...fucking...












JIVE!