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John Ashcroft
01-16-2004, 01:18 PM
Over 60 abortion rights groups have used this week's European Population Forum in Geneva to stage an attack on the Bush administration and the Roman Catholic Church for their "religious fundamentalism" in insisting that international development programs do not promote abortion.

These criticisms, made in a "declaration" released at the forum and in speeches delivered by the heads of influential non governmental organizations, are the latest attacks in what now appears to be a sustained campaign to blunt all Christian ethics from international affairs and to supplant U.S. international influence with that of the more secular European Union.

The declaration was signed by groups including "Catholics" for a Free Choice, Family Care International, and the Planned Parenthood Federation of America.

According to Reuters news service, the declaration makes the now familiar charge that the U.S. is guilty of killing women by denying U.S. funds to groups that promote or perform abortions overseas, and by insisting that a portion of funds for international AIDS prevention be spent on abstinence programs.

You see, this is the problem. Are we to subvert our fiscal decisions and authority to these fucking whackos too?

Reuters also reports that, "Bush, accused by critics of promoting the cause of Christian fundamentalists, has withheld about $35 million in funding to the U.N. Population Fund and the World Health Organization, which do not exclude abortion from their programs.

U.S. delegates, including representatives of Protestant anti-abortion groups and Catholics backing Vatican policies, have brought near-collapse to international gatherings on children's rights, development and population by opposing any language that might allow for abortion or contraception."

Jill Sheffield, president of Family Care International, said in a speech at the Forum that "The White House (and the Vatican), and a range of other right-wing fundamentalist and religious groups, are working to turn back the clock." Steven Sinding, president of International Planned Parenthood Federation (IPPF), declared that enemies of the reproductive rights agenda must be countered by "discrediting their pseudo-science and unmasking their ideological motives. It is essential to demonstrate the truly dangerous consequences of their approach."

So now opposing the killing of unborn children is "truly dangerous"??? Fuck these people! Is it too late to abort them?

Another concern voiced at the Forum by both non governmental organizations and the U.N. Population Fund, which co-sponsored the event, was that declines in both worldwide fertility rates and population growth rates would temper international enthusiasm for further population control efforts. Werner Fornos, president of the Population Institute, wrote in the January 14 International Herald Tribune that, despite what "religious extremists" say, "the international community must clearly understand that to achieve an improved quality of life for all, now is the time to accelerate population stabilization efforts, rather than to retreat from them."

Sound familiar? Anyone else see a problem with "population stabilization efforts"? Maybe we should let China take over the Human Rights Commission after Libya's term is up, huh...

Ironically, one the major topics discussed at the Forum was the drastic societal consequences of the current population decline in Europe.

Link: here (http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/1/15/221821.shtml)

BigBadBrian
01-16-2004, 01:49 PM
Bunch of fuckin' nutballs.

John Ashcroft
01-16-2004, 01:52 PM
Yep, but if it were up to Clinton, we'd be subverting our Constitutional protections to clowns like this.

FORD
01-16-2004, 02:36 PM
Why is it the business of right wingers on this continent whether people in Europe, Africa, or where ever practice birth control. Or abortion for that matter?

And would one of you so called "pro lifers" care to defend your support of the slaughter of children in Iraq?? How about the corporate friends of Junior who move manufacturing out of this country so kids here can starve while kids in Vietnam and India make Nike's for 50 cents a day.

Pro Life?? If these people were truly Christian or Pro Life, they would be concentrating on the many fucked up evil things going on in the world, most of it promoted by the fucking bastards they call their leaders :mad:

Dave's PA Rental
01-16-2004, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by FORD
And would one of you so called "pro lifers" care to defend your support of the slaughter of children in Iraq?? How about the corporate friends of Junior who move manufacturing out of this country so kids here can starve while kids in Vietnam and India make Nike's for 50 cents a day.



Dude, they NEVER made Nike's in this country.

And what slaughter of children in Iraq? Saddam killed a thousand times as many children during his reign than we are killing by mistake.

Saddam is gone, praise Allah, and the Iraqi's will be better off.

Lastly, just a general FUCK YOU to you conservatives out there who think that I am your side...

John Ashcroft
01-16-2004, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Why is it the business of right wingers on this continent whether people in Europe, Africa, or where ever practice birth control. Or abortion for that matter?

And would one of you so called "pro lifers" care to defend your support of the slaughter of children in Iraq?? How about the corporate friends of Junior who move manufacturing out of this country so kids here can starve while kids in Vietnam and India make Nike's for 50 cents a day.

Pro Life?? If these people were truly Christian or Pro Life, they would be concentrating on the many fucked up evil things going on in the world, most of it promoted by the fucking bastards they call their leaders :mad:

You miss the point dude. We don't want to send OUR MONEY to support practices that aren't in our national interests or are against our moral code. It's as simple as that. Did you read the article? The entire bitch out of the European commie community is that we're cutting off funding to such programs. And they're accusing us of killing women by doing so. So I say as loud as I can say it... FUCK YOU COMMIES!

Oh, and Dave's, relax dude... You'll live longer.

Katydid
05-07-2004, 09:51 PM
When Mother Mother appeared in Conyers, GA to crowds of 60,000 from the '90 till present, she said, "The mother's wombs have become the concentration camps of the world." She also spoke out against eustenasia (killing old people which is legal in some states).

She also said "sins of the flesh," were sending more people to Hell than anything else.

There are messages you can send for if you care to read them. Nancy Fowler would go into a deep sleep and prophesy, it was all recorded and put into messages. There is no charge for anything. A group of scientists and skeptics put machines on her head and hands. That was their findings. Jesus appeared and asked, "Why do you put me to the test?" It registered 3 3 3 Mother Mary registared 4 4 4 Then Satan appeared and it registared 6 6 6. They threw down their machines in fear and said, "Oh my GOD, we are the antichrists, we are putting "our" numbers on her head and hands and she is in a deep sleep prophesying. From then on they believed.

Roads were built, radio and tv showed it, crowds came. Now, it's all donated to the Catholic Church. A real monastery is being built.

Katydid
05-07-2004, 10:29 PM
If anyone wants to read the Conyer's Messages you can pull them up at: http://www.ourlovingmother.org/

Nancy Fowler left the farm and deeded it over to the Catholic Church, she also got into a lawsuit with the people who printed the messages, because they wanted to charge for them to recoup money. So everything stayed free as a result and people still gather.

Jesus Christ
05-08-2004, 03:15 AM
How can ye be sure that these people are preaching My gospel, and are not false prophets?

BigBadBrian
05-08-2004, 08:14 AM
Originally posted by Jesus Christ
How can ye be sure that these people are preaching My gospel, and are not false prophets?


False prophets..............like that bastard FORD. He'll get his due, though. :gulp:

FORD
05-08-2004, 09:57 AM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
False prophets..............like that bastard FORD. He'll get his due, though. :gulp:

Well, let's put it this way... if God pours out His wrath on false prophets anytime soon, you probably wouldn't want to be in Virginia Beach, because that diamond mining, Charles Taylor of Liberia supporting, Ariel Sharon loving hypocrite who lives up the street from you is gonna be the first one to go :D