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Nickdfresh
04-17-2018, 03:34 PM
Sandy Hook parents hit Alex Jones with defamation lawsuits
Sebastian Murdock
,HuffPost•April 17, 2018
Alex Jones may soon learn that maligning the parents of dead children comes with serious consequences.
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Alex Jones has spent years claiming the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School ― where a shooter killed 20 small children and six adults ― was faked. He has claimed the parents of these dead children are liars and “crisis actors.”
Now, those parents are coming after him.
In a pair of lawsuits filed late Monday, the parents of two children who died in the December 2012 shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, say Jones’ repeated lies and conspiratorial ravings have led to death threats. The suits join at least two other recent cases accusing the Infowars host of defamation.
I lost my son. I buried my son. I held my son with a bullet hole through his head.
Neil Heslin, father of a 6-year-old boy killed during the Sandy Hook shooting.
Neil Heslin, the father of a 6-year-old boy killed in the shooting, and Leonard Pozner and Veronique De La Rosa, who lost their own little boy, filed the suits in Austin, Texas, where Jones’ conspiracy-minded media outlet is based. Each suit is seeking more than $1 million in damages from Jones, Infowars and a related company, Free Speech Systems LLC. Infowars reporter Owen Shroyer is also named in one of the suits.
“Even after these folks had to experience this trauma, for the next five years they were tormented by Alex Jones with vicious lies about them,” Mark Bankston, the lawyer handling the cases for the parents, told HuffPost. “And these lies were meant to convince his audience that the Sandy Hook parents are frauds and have perpetrated a sinister lie on the American people.”
Bankston, of the Houston law firm Farrar & Ball, is also involved in another defamation suit against Jones, representing a man whom Infowars incorrectly identified as the Parkland, Florida, school shooter.
Infowars, Jones and Shroyer did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
Heslin’s suit focuses on what it calls a “heartless and vile” claim of Shroyer’s: that the father lied in an interview with NBC News’ Megyn Kelly about holding his dead son’s body.
“I lost my son. I buried my son. I held my son with a bullet hole through his head,” Heslin told Kelly in the June 2017 segment profiling Jones.
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Neil Heslin testifies during a Senate hearing on assault weapons in February 2013. (Alex Wong via Getty Images)
Days after the segment aired, Shroyer told Infowars viewers that Heslin could not have held his son because victims were identified through photographs, not in person.
“That’s not something you would just misspeak on,” Shroyer said during the June 26, 2017, broadcast, which Jones himself plugged a month later.
But that claim is “manifestly false,” Heslin’s suit says: The children’s bodies were eventually turned over to their parents for their funerals.
In the other suit filed Tuesday, Pozner and De La Rosa ― whose son was the youngest victim in the shooting ― are also targeting Jones for calling them liars.
During an April 2017 broadcast on Infowars, Jones discussed an interview De La Rosa gave to CNN’s Anderson Cooper shortly after the tragedy, and claimed the entire thing was faked.
“So here are these holier than thou people, when we question CNN, who is supposedly at the site of Sandy Hook, and they got in one shot leaves blowing, and the flowers that are around it, and you see the leaves blowing, and they go [gestures]. They glitch,” Jones said, according to a transcript quoted in the lawsuit. “They’re recycling a green-screen behind them.”
Anyone ... who spends 15 minutes talking to one of these parents will understand immediately how vile this lie was.
Mark Bankston, lawyer for the Sandy Hook parents suing Jones.
This was a lie Jones has been repeating for years.
“Folks, we’ve got video of Anderson Cooper with clear blue-screen out there,” Jones said in 2014. “He’s not there in the town square. We got people clearly coming up and laughing and then doing the fake crying. We’ve clearly got people where it’s actors playing different parts for different people, the building bulldozed, covering up everything.”
It’s been five years since the shooting, the lawsuit says, and “Mr. Jones continues to push this sick lie about Mrs. De La Rosa and her interview.”
Infowars’ practice of disseminating outright lies has led to serious consequences for the families of the Sandy Hook victims, the lawsuit says. In June 2017, Florida woman Lucy Richards, then 57, was sentenced to five months in prison for sending threats to Pozner.
“You gonna die,” Richards told Pozner in one recorded voicemail message. “Death is coming to you real soon.”
As part of her sentence, Richards will no longer be allowed to access Infowars, according to the lawsuit.
As of Tuesday morning, Infowars still had blatantly false stories posted on its website claiming the mass shooting was a hoax.“FBI SAYS NO ONE KILLED AT SANDY HOOK,” screams one headline.
Bankston told HuffPost he has never before seen cases involving the kind of “mental anguish” these parents are experiencing.
“I think as a father, it’s a very surreal experience,” Bankston said. “Anyone, parents or not, who spends 15 minutes talking to one of these parents will understand immediately how vile this lie was, and how genuine their pain is.”
The defamation lawsuits could have devastating consequences for Jones and Infowars, especially because these are not the only ones against him. In March, the man who recorded the deadly car attack at last year’s white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, sued Jones for calling him a “deep state shill” and a “CIA asset” who helped organize the attack ― he’s not, and he didn’t.
And then there’s the lawsuit Bankston filed earlier this month. He’s suing on behalf of the 24-year-old man whom Infowars falsely identified as the gunman who killed 17 people at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in February.
For the Sandy Hook parents, they just want the lies to stop. Even when Jones made an assurance he’d stop talking about it, that too was a lie. During a November 2016 broadcast, Jones said that if “children were lost at Sandy Hook, my heart goes out to each and every one of those parents.”
But he didn’t stop there: “The only problem is, I’ve watched a lot of soap operas, and I’ve seen actors before. And I know when I’m watching a movie and when I’m watching something real.”
The broadcast was titled “Alex Jones Final Statement on Sandy Hook.”
Less than a year later, in April 2017, Jones aired another segment. It was titled “Sandy Hook Vampires Exposed.”
Huffpost via YAHOO (https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/sandy-hook-parents-just-hit-094656840.html)
Nickdfresh
04-17-2018, 03:47 PM
A Sandy Hook "Vampire" will indeed be exposed...
Seshmeister
04-17-2018, 05:17 PM
About time, what a fucking sick way to sell supplements.
Nitro Express
04-18-2018, 03:31 AM
About time, what a fucking sick way to sell supplements.
https://youtu.be/fBkQJ3OgZqs
If this is what those supplements do to you I don't want any! Well Jones can claim insanity and dodge prosecution.
Seshmeister
04-18-2018, 02:07 PM
You can see the meeting - ‘So we are going to sell sugar pills and say they make you smarter?’
‘You would need to be pretty dumb to pay for that’
‘Exactly that’s why you need the pills!’
There is a certain beautiful logic to it. Joe Rogan is doing the same thing but not by saying people who have gone through the worst thing imaginable are liars and frauds.
Kristy
04-18-2018, 03:26 PM
I highly doubt this one will stick. Even Hamdi Ulukaya dropped his lawsuit against Jone$ for a public apology. The lawsuit Jone$ is getting nailed for are the ones filed against him are by former employees Ashley Beckford for sexual harassment (and it looks like that one is going to stick), and Rob Jacobson, for "discrimination, harassment, and unfair dismissal."
We shall see.
"The news of the day is that Alex Jones is being sued by two parents of children who were murdered in the tragedy at Sandy Hook. The parents absolutely deserve some kind of recompense for the horrors they have had to endure, but these suits will probably not work out, if only because of the statute of limitations for defamation claims in Texas being 1-2 years depending on circumstances."
https://knowledgefight.com/the-past/2018/4/18/april-17-2018
So..."go eat a dick," libtards.
Nitro Express
04-18-2018, 05:34 PM
You can see the meeting - ‘So we are going to sell sugar pills and say they make you smarter?’
‘You would need to be pretty dumb to pay for that’
‘Exactly that’s why you need the pills!’
There is a certain beautiful logic to it. Joe Rogan is doing the same thing but not by saying people who have gone through the worst thing imaginable are liars and frauds.
I haven't watched Joe for awhile but he was bitching about shipping kettle bells to customers because they were heavy and the shipping was expensive. Well penis enhancement pills and vitamins are a lot easier to ship and handle.
Nitro Express
04-18-2018, 05:40 PM
I highly doubt this one will stick. Even Hamdi Ulukaya dropped his lawsuit against Jone$ for a public apology. The lawsuit Jone$ is getting nailed for are the ones filed against him are by former employees Ashley Beckford for sexual harassment (and it looks like that one is going to stick), and Rob Jacobson, for "discrimination, harassment, and unfair dismissal."
We shall see.
"The news of the day is that Alex Jones is being sued by two parents of children who were murdered in the tragedy at Sandy Hook. The parents absolutely deserve some kind of recompense for the horrors they have had to endure, but these suits will probably not work out, if only because of the statute of limitations for defamation claims in Texas being 1-2 years depending on circumstances."
https://knowledgefight.com/the-past/2018/4/18/april-17-2018
So..."go eat a dick," libtards.
I doubt it but news of the lawsuit is getting lots of coverage and it makes Alex Jones looks like an asshole to the general public. What's funny is Alex sometimes does have some decent guests. I remember Marc Faber the economist was on Infowars and the subject was interesting but Alex kept on interrupting the guest and shouting him down. When Alex would expand a normal problem out to be some crazy conspiracy theory Mr. Faber would laugh and go no no no I didn't mean that.
Seshmeister
04-24-2018, 10:40 AM
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Nickdfresh
08-02-2018, 07:42 AM
In addition to the suits mentioned, another man is now suing him for misidentifying him as a school shooter. Plus he's been kicked off Spotify. :)
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/alex-jones-podcast-removed-by-spotify/
Seshmeister
08-02-2018, 09:16 AM
Guilianni will be watching this tactic and taking notes for President Goldfinger... :)
Alex Jones’s Attorneys Argue That No Reasonable Person Would Believe What He Says
n April, the ever-ascending media empire that is Alex Jones’s Infowars was served with its most serious threat. Several lawsuits—including one by the parents of a child killed during the Sandy Hook school massacre in Connecticut, and one by a man inaccurately identified by Infowars as the suspect in the Parkland shooting earlier this year—were filed in Travis County, each alleging defamation by Jones and his company. The possibility that this could derail Jones’s enterprise was real: defamation cases against media companies are hard for plaintiffs to win, but Infowars is no ordinary media company, and the charges reflected practices far outside of traditional journalism.
That’s not an accident. Jones’s brand is built upon the idea that he’s a lone crusader against the mainstream media, telling his audience bold truths about a world that he claims lies to them constantly. For about the first decade and a half of his career, he did so very much as a fringe character in the media landscape, an Austin-based outlaw spouting off conspiracies about black helicopters, vaccines, the CIA, and 9/11. His influence grew after the election of Obama in 2008, as “patriot” groups and militias took hold around the country, and Jones’s theories and aesthetic found a much larger constituency. As it did, his business model shifted, too—from being funded largely by DVD sales and advertising to turning into an outlet for dietary supplements intended to protect users from the sort of health-related conspiracies that Jones railed against on his show.
With that increased influence—he’s one of President Trump’s key media defenders, and Trump, during the 2016 presidential campaign, appeared on Infowars to gush to the host about his “amazing” reputation—Jones has faced increased scrutiny. Last year, during a bitter custody trial with his ex-wife, Jones’s attorneys had to walk a tightrope in the courtroom between acknowledging that part of his persona is, in fact, an act he plays up for the cameras—lest the jury find him an unfit father—and maintaining for the sake of his audience that he actually does believe every word he says.
Now, he’s once more facing a legal challenge—and his attorneys are once more tasked with arguing that Jones doesn’t really mean what he says on his broadcasts, while also doing their best to maintain his credibility.
The two suits against Jones will have their initial hearings this week at the Travis County Courthouse. The first, brought against him by Leonard Pozner and Veronique De La Rosa, parents of a six-year-old named Noah who was killed at Sandy Hook in 2012, is based on statements Jones made during a video that lives on YouTube as “Sandy Hook Vampires Exposed.” In that video, Jones—who has a history of denying the Sandy Hook shooting, having previously (and outside the statute of limitations for the defamation suit) argued that the massacre might have been a “false flag” by a government seeking to restrict gun rights—once more challenges the idea of the Pozner family as victims.
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Infowars, in the second suit, is represented by Eric Taube and Kevin Brown. In their motion to dismiss the suit, they explain that “Daniels accurately reported what the 4Chan original poster—and other social media outlets—had reported: that the Challenged Image was that of the Parkland shooter.” The “other social media outlets” included in the defendant’s exhibits are limited to a single tweet from a now-suspended “Antifa” parody account. They also argue that the site never named Fontaine, limiting their liability in the case.
More at
https://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/alex-joness-attorneys-defamation-suit-argue-no-reasonable-person-believe-says/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L90yjmdk-Z8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHofIKRV-Ns
Seshmeister
08-07-2018, 09:11 AM
He's not reacted well to it. :D
https://twitter.com/EdwardTHardy/status/1026583841673289728
Nickdfresh
08-07-2018, 11:00 AM
Ha ha! Maybe his penis pills will cause him a nice cardiac arrest? I doubt he takes any of that shit, though...
Ha ha! Maybe his penis pills will cause him a nice cardiac arrest? I doubt he takes any of that shit, though...
Of course he takes his own supplements! Just look at these "amazing" results..... :biggrin:
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...and Judaism!!
AUSTIN, TX (The Onion (https://www.theonion.com/alex-jones-warns-fans-quitting-his-supplements-cold-tur-1828158237?utm_source=TheOnion_Daily_RSS&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=&utm_term=))—Cautioning against the devastating effects of abandoning the daily regimen of essential vitamins and minerals, radio host Alex Jones warned his fans Tuesday that quitting his supplements cold turkey could lead to homosexuality and Judaism. “Folks, if you miss even one day of your Anthroplex or Survival Shield X-2, you’re immediately going to start feeling Jewish, gay, or worse,” said the beleaguered InfoWars founder and staunch male virility advocate, emphasizing to his loyal followers that if their bodies were deprived of certain vital testosterone-enhancing products, dangerous symptoms of Deep State–adjacent illnesses could manifest just 72 hours after one’s last dosage. “Remember, your body requires these supplements in order to function properly. Without them, it will begin to completely shut down—the globalist levels in your bloodstream will shoot up, your tolerance for other people will skyrocket, and soon you’ll be attending a trans visibility march with a college-educated platonic female friend before lighting a menorah to kick off a gay orgy at Barack Obama’s house.” Jones added that anyone who did not take the supplements regularly would be better off with the mercy of a quick death by drinking an 8-ounce glass of fluoridated water.
Seshmeister
08-07-2018, 06:21 PM
Can anyone explain to me how Conservatives in the US manage to juggle being pro Israeli government and antisemitic at the same time? I'm the opposite and even that sometimes causes confusion sometimes but I really don't see how it works the other way around.
Can anyone explain to me how Conservatives in the US manage to juggle being pro Israeli government and antisemitic at the same time? I'm the opposite and even that sometimes causes confusion sometimes but I really don't see how it works the other way around.
Basically it comes down to religious FundaMENTALism. Israel has to exist in order for JC to come back. John Fat Bastard Hagee goes even further, saying that Israel must expand to the "Nile to the Euphrates" borders that God mentioned to Abraham way back in the book of Genesis. The Jews are just a means to an end in that scenario, as long as 144,000 of them are still around to accept Jesus during the Tribulation.
For the not so religiously inclined... they probably just like the fact that Israel (under the current UN mandated model) gives them a convenient base in the Middle East to plot all their assaults on the countires who have oil.
Terry
08-07-2018, 08:26 PM
While some of the various social media outlets claim this is because Jones repeatedly violated their terms of service, it seems more like once the first one censored him the rest followed suit in a domino effect.
Am not too sure how I feel about this. I personally have no use for the man and what he does, but this feels more like censorship, and banning Jones will just make a martyr out of him to his fans: those who take Jones seriously won't rethink their insanity just because Jones has been banned from Facebook, because that bizarre mentality will just find lunacy elsewhere to propagate.
Ironically, Alex also violated the TOS on his own fucking website....
You will not post anything libelous, defamatory, harmful, threatening, harassing, abusive, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, racially or ethnically objectionable, or otherwise illegal.
You will not make threats to other users or people not associated with the site.
If you violate these rules, your posts and/or user name will be deleted.
Remember: you are a guest here. It is not censorship if you violate the rules and your post is deleted. All civilizations have rules and if you violate them you can expect to be ostracized from the tribe.
https://www.infowars.com/terms-of-service/
Seshmeister
08-07-2018, 10:22 PM
Am not too sure how I feel about this. I personally have no use for the man and what he does, but this feels more like censorship, and banning Jones will just make a martyr out of him to his fans: those who take Jones seriously won't rethink their insanity just because Jones has been banned from Facebook, because that bizarre mentality will just find lunacy elsewhere to propagate.
Me too, I'm not comfortable at all with a few billionaires having so much power. The free speech thing too becomes really difficult this site had been through that to the point of almost destruction.
Also it's worth pointing out that Trump remains one of the biggest spenders of advertising in the US as do many other people in power. If as is happening elsewhere in the world a government pays FB for lots of advertising propaganda in say Burmese inciting people to murder opposition to the government is FB going to fix that? We are reliant on Zuckerberg to refuse money from nefarious advertisers no matter how rich, spend cash on employing staff of every nationality to police this shit and be some sort of super benign mod of the world?
Speaking as someone that tried to do it for just a few thousand users with no financial motivation it's not easy.
Also worth remembering that our new god of morality is at best a creep. I'm lovely but still made a mess of it.
Have mixed feelings about it myself. I support independent media. Prefer the progressive kind myself, but I'm OK with right wing indy media statng their case. In the case of Alex Jones, it's often good for a laugh if nothing else.
On the other hand, his slanderous bullshit often caused real world problems, often at the hands of his deranged followers. Alex should have some sort of consequences for that. Unlike Bill O'Reilly and his "Tiller the Baby Killer" rants, I don't know if Alex's fans have actually killed anybody. They have made numerous death threats though....against everyone from the Sandy Hook families to (most recently) the suits at YouTube, Farcebook, etc. for their latest actions against Jones. Fuck knows how many frogs his followers might have killed, worried that they might be gay.
Kristy
08-08-2018, 12:11 AM
On a recent episode of the Knowledge Fight podcast (plug) they talked about Jone$ being banned and how it will really not amount to much unless Jone$ ends up being a figurehead for some uber-right wing site like like GAB or 8Chan. They also talked about how close this stupid F A T is to going to prison.
https://knowledgefight.libsyn.com/knowledge-fight-july-27-2018
Kristy
08-08-2018, 12:13 AM
Am not too sure how I feel about this. I personally have no use for the man and what he does, but this feels more like censorship, and banning Jones will just make a martyr out of him to his fans: those who take Jones seriously won't rethink their insanity just because Jones has been banned from Facebook, because that bizarre mentality will just find lunacy elsewhere to propagate.
Jone$ wasn't banned from Facecrook, not entirely, only his own personal account was.
Nickdfresh
08-08-2018, 09:44 AM
Of course he takes his own supplements! Just look at these "amazing" results..... :biggrin:
https://pics.onsizzle.com/Facebook-c2da2c.png
Photochop is a supplement?
Nickdfresh
08-08-2018, 09:45 AM
Can anyone explain to me how Conservatives in the US manage to juggle being pro Israeli government and antisemitic at the same time? I'm the opposite and even that sometimes causes confusion sometimes but I really don't see how it works the other way around.
They like the Jews as long as they're over there waiting for the rapture...
Terry
08-11-2018, 04:23 PM
I get what both Sesh and Ford are saying.
It may well be true that some of the things Jones says incite some of those who listen to him to say or do despicable (if not necessarily murderous) things themselves.
At the end of the day, people living in democracies - even the feeble minded - have free will. They have the freedom to be influenced, and the freedom not to do their due diligence, and the freedom to act with a minimal degree of thought as to the consequences. Which isn't to say therefore we live in a consequence-free environment, but you get my point.
Nitro Express
08-12-2018, 03:35 AM
Basically it comes down to religious FundaMENTALism. Israel has to exist in order for JC to come back. John Fat Bastard Hagee goes even further, saying that Israel must expand to the "Nile to the Euphrates" borders that God mentioned to Abraham way back in the book of Genesis. The Jews are just a means to an end in that scenario, as long as 144,000 of them are still around to accept Jesus during the Tribulation.
For the not so religiously inclined... they probably just like the fact that Israel (under the current UN mandated model) gives them a convenient base in the Middle East to plot all their assaults on the countires who have oil.
Israel cannot survive without the US financially backing it. So the pro Israel Jews created AIPAC. Every US politician has to kiss the ass of AIPAC if they want to get elected. They also use sophisticated social strategies by befriending members of the American clergy and getting them to support Israel. Reverend Hagee kisses Israel's ass because they make him feel important and treat him well. Maybe he's getting laid and getting some money transferred to an offshore account. Who knows but the bottom line is Israel will do what it has to do to exist.
Kristy
08-15-2018, 03:52 PM
At the end of the day, people living in democracies - even the feeble minded - have free will. They have the freedom to be influenced, and the freedom not to do their due diligence, and the freedom to act with a minimal degree of thought as to the consequences. Which isn't to say therefore we live in a consequence-free environment, but you get my point.
That was pretty fucking retarded. When F A T fucks like Jone$ push a propaganda of violence towards others based in nothing more than racism and bigotry then it is no longer "free speech" but hate speech whose intent is to harm others. This is why his (4Chan) rhetoric was pulled. A "free environment" is not to be polluted with the filth Jone$' spews. His F A T ass (and those stupid enough to follow him) have no care for consequences; this is about control and power based in lies.
Kristy
08-16-2018, 11:43 AM
Jone$ the Putin puppet just like slave FORD's creepy college professor guy
"National security experts have asserted that RT is a propaganda arm of the Russian government. A report by the U.S. Office of the Director of National Intelligence argued that RT played an influential role in the 2016 presidential election, sowing distrust in Hillary Clinton while portraying Donald Trump as a martyr. Ones' reliance on RT to provide his audience with content while perhaps surprising, is hard to view as shocking. The conspiracy theorist was an early supporter of Trump and often makes claims that frame the U.S. government as a force for evil."
Story here, artards:
https://www.salon.com/2017/11/09/infowars-peddled-stories-from-a-russian-propaganda-outlet-for-years/?utm_campaign=crowdfire&utm_content=crowdfire&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter#14817097-tw#1510369047512
Nitro Express
08-16-2018, 04:29 PM
That was pretty fucking retarded. When F A T fucks like Jone$ push a propaganda of violence towards others based in nothing more than racism and bigotry then it is no longer "free speech" but hate speech whose intent is to harm others. This is why his (4Chan) rhetoric was pulled. A "free environment" is not to be polluted with the filth Jone$' spews. His F A T ass (and those stupid enough to follow him) have no care for consequences; this is about control and power based in lies.
All banning Alex Jones did was help promote the guy even more. Hillary made a huge mistake by verbally attacking Alex Jones during the campaign. She legitimized the guy because she saw him big enough to be a threat worth attacking. If you really want to take someone down in the world of public opinion, you ignore them. You don't give them the time of day. Facebook, Google, Apple and all the others just gave Infowars more promotion and Facebook is on the way out. Apple and Google now look like censorship bullies and now the public is talking about corporations being a threat to free speech. Hate speech is a slippery slope. The American people in the past realized free speech also meant protecting speech you didn't like and even stuff that was offensive. They realized putting up with it was better than losing free speech all together. Who cares about Alex Jones and Infowars. Never heard the guy say anything racist. He has some out there conspiracies but then you hear the same sort of stuff on Coast to Coast AM.
There's a difference between political speech and slander.
If you want to say "Barack Obama is a Kenyan Muslim member of the Illuminati whose wife is a man and who was out to enslave the entire population on behalf of his gay frog alien overlords" then it's ridiculous as all Hell, but it should be protected as free speech, because there's very little chance of it causing any harm to anybody.
But when you say that 6 year old children whose bodies were literally cut in half by the gunfire of a brain dead mutant (armed by his deranged meth head mother) were "crisis actors" and that their parents are also "actors" and as a result, your deranged audience threatens the lives of those parents.... or when you claim some pizza place in Washington DC is the headquarters of Hillary Clinton's secret pedophile sex dungeon, and then some deranged InfoWhores fan shows up with an AR-15 to shoot the place up - only to find out that there not only isn't a pedo cult in the basement....THERE'S NOT EVEN A FUCKING BASEMENT..... well now we are talking real damage done to people. And a legitimate threat to human lives caused by Alex Jones's slander.
I don't believe he should be entirely silenced, but he definitely needs to be held accountable when he crosses the line into libel & slander. And if acts of terrorism and violence are committed in the name of his libel & slander, then he should be charged with that as well. But as long as he's just peddling weird political speech to sell his vitamin products, who gives a shit. As I've said before, it's often good comedy... and that's why I have to consider the theory that he's really Bill Hicks as a semi-serious possibility. But if that's the case, I suspect Bill is going to be looking for a new character soon. So look for "Alex" to die mysteriously.... probably in a bizzare Illuminutty NWO gay frog assassination plot :biggrin:
Terry
08-16-2018, 08:59 PM
All banning Alex Jones did was help promote the guy even more. Hillary made a huge mistake by verbally attacking Alex Jones during the campaign. She legitimized the guy because she saw him big enough to be a threat worth attacking. If you really want to take someone down in the world of public opinion, you ignore them. You don't give them the time of day. Facebook, Google, Apple and all the others just gave Infowars more promotion and Facebook is on the way out. Apple and Google now look like censorship bullies and now the public is talking about corporations being a threat to free speech. Hate speech is a slippery slope. The American people in the past realized free speech also meant protecting speech you didn't like and even stuff that was offensive. They realized putting up with it was better than losing free speech all together. Who cares about Alex Jones and Infowars. Never heard the guy say anything racist. He has some out there conspiracies but then you hear the same sort of stuff on Coast to Coast AM.
The thing about it is...Alex Jones is easily ignorable.
He wasn't on some state-sponsored or state-run media platform, and as citizens it isn't compulsory that we listen to what he has to say.
As to him pushing the Sandy Hook Truther hoax, and PizzaGate and whatever other easily disprovable conspiracies he has propagated...to be sure, Jones shouldn't be singling out Sandy Hook parents for harassment. There should be consequences for Jones saying those types of things that amount to singling out individuals for harassment and advocating his listeners to do something about it. However, I think Jones has a right to say those things. He shouldn't have the expectation of saying those things consequence-free. The old adage of falsely yelling "fire" in a crowded movie theater, etc. Listeners of Alex Jones have their own choices to make when they hear what he says. It's not as if Jones is some master hypnotist who can delude otherwise sane people to go physically harass Sandy Hook parents, or mesmerize some guy to shoot up a pizza parlor if the guy wasn't already imbalanced.
There are a lot of assholes out there. Assholes who say whatever pop into their heads, and assholes who believe whatever they are told (be it by Fox News, or whoever) without doing their own research. And assholishness isn't the sole province of right wingers, either. And this assholishness didn't start with Alex Jones. Or Donald Trump.
Beyond all of this, though, these social media platforms are private companies. As such, they all retain the right to remove speech or images as they see fit, subject to their terms of service. That these companies are using public utilities to convey their services makes some of the debate not as clear as it otherwise might be in terms of ethics vs. legality. As an individual, you have access to these platforms like everybody else as long as you don't violate the terms of service. Jones did, was told he did more than once, kept doing it anyway, and was either yanked or downsized. Now, Jones gets to play the martyr to his deluded listeners (and I'll flat-out state that anybody who could listen to five consecutive minutes of Jones and consistently agree with the rambling, at best semi-coherent, screamed ranting of the man is probably mentally susceptible to believing just about anything anybody says...which is willful delusion by definition).
Again, I have no use for the guy, but the best way to deal with him is marginalization via ignoring him. Don't feed the trolls. In the case of the Sandy Hook parents, they're suing him. There is a legal process available. I'm not minimizing the anguish Jones has helped cause by his rhetoric, and hopefully he will have to pay some sort of legal price for it. But, he should still have the freedom to communicate that rhetoric. And people should still have the freedom to listen to it and make up their own minds about what it means to them.
Nitro Express
08-17-2018, 01:25 AM
What you are going to see happen is there will be more platforms. It just won't be YouTube anymore. YouTube used to be the platform for everyone. It will be good. We need more diversity on the internet. Facebook, Apple, and Google became the big brandnames and started getting full of themselves. They need more competition. I'm for anyone having free speech as long as it's not kiddie porn or snuff films. Go ahead and offend all you want. I can choose to watch you or not. I would rather make that choice myself than have someone else do it for me. Big brother can go fuck himself. Hey I don't like the Westboro Baptist Church and what they do. I think making their kind of ruckus at soldier funerals is disgusting but I will fight for their right to do it. It beats being scared to death to say something wrong and be dragged off to some gulag. I would rather have some assholes protest my nephew's funeral if he gets killed serving his country.
Terry
08-17-2018, 09:54 PM
It comes back to who has a monopoly on wisdom and therefore has the ability to censor information/words/ideas, thus denying us the right/ability to judge these things for ourselves. The freedom to access information is part of what defines a democracy. We've already "allowed" so many restrictions on where we go and what we do in terms of some activities being acceptable or lawful and others not: are we now going to allow others to determine what we think?
Nitro Express
08-18-2018, 12:31 AM
It comes back to who has a monopoly on wisdom and therefore has the ability to censor information/words/ideas, thus denying us the right/ability to judge these things for ourselves. The freedom to access information is part of what defines a democracy. We've already "allowed" so many restrictions on where we go and what we do in terms of some activities being acceptable or lawful and others not: are we now going to allow others to determine what we think?
Our institutions are also proving themselves to be untrustworthy. A good example is the accounting firm Aurthur Andersen. They had this so called stellar reputation and they got caught falsifying audits. Well they are still operating under a changed name. It used to be investment firms would say, oh your mutual fund is not insured like a bank account but if you lose your money it's the end of us because our reputation will be ruined. Yeah right. They fail and the politicians bail the failed firm out and they just change their name and go on. So the big question here is who do you trust? I think this is the major question. Nobody trust anyone anymore. Our institutions are failing. Then of course the public can't agree on who is trustworthy or not and they get in these huge fights over everything. It's really quite dysfunctional.
Terry
08-18-2018, 06:25 PM
Our institutions are also proving themselves to be untrustworthy. A good example is the accounting firm Aurthur Andersen. They had this so called stellar reputation and they got caught falsifying audits. Well they are still operating under a changed name. It used to be investment firms would say, oh your mutual fund is not insured like a bank account but if you lose your money it's the end of us because our reputation will be ruined. Yeah right. They fail and the politicians bail the failed firm out and they just change their name and go on. So the big question here is who do you trust? I think this is the major question. Nobody trust anyone anymore. Our institutions are failing. Then of course the public can't agree on who is trustworthy or not and they get in these huge fights over everything. It's really quite dysfunctional.
Or the Big Three credit rating agencies knowingly giving A, AA and AAA ratings to all those bundled tranches of shit mortgages in the years leading up to the bubble popping a decade ago. Essentially taking money to provide their then still credible stamp of approval on these financial products, and after the bubble burst their literal excuse was that "we just provide ratings, and the ratings we provide shouldn't be taken as gospel by anybody, because we make that disclosure" rather than admit what they did, and admit that the reason they were able to do what they did was because they HAD such a stellar reputation because the common perception was they didn't allow their rating standards to be compromised by payoffs from the financial institutions they were supposed to be dispassionately rating.
To be sure, these various failed institutions are comprised of people. When the institutions fail or go under, plenty of the employees go find work at other firms within the industry that didn't fail or go under. Because to that mindset, it isn't a crime to misrepresent, or lie when overreaching out of greed. It isn't even particularly a crime to get caught, as evidenced by the large settlements virtually all of those firms made (while publicly admitting no wrongdoing, of course) when caught breaking the law again and again.
Steal a little and they throw you in jail, steal a lot and they make you a king.
Seshmeister
08-18-2018, 09:20 PM
Our institutions are also proving themselves to be untrustworthy. A good example is the accounting firm Aurthur Andersen.
There are basically only 4 accountancy firms auditing all the big businesses. If that wasn't bad enough the same 4 companies also do billions of dollars of consultancy work for the same companies so the conflict of interest is spectacular.
I'm in no way a conspiracy theorist but of course all these big businesses include all the media companies so you aren't going to hear much about this huge issue any time soon...
Terry
08-19-2018, 08:52 AM
There are basically only 4 accountancy firms auditing all the big businesses. If that wasn't bad enough the same 4 companies also do billions of dollars of consultancy work for the same companies so the conflict of interest is spectacular.
I'm in no way a conspiracy theorist but of course all these big businesses include all the media companies so you aren't going to hear much about this huge issue any time soon...
You don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to see the connections with what you're referencing, because the conflicts of interest are right out in the open and the patterns of these accountancy firms/ratings agencies soft-pedalling in exchange for fees has been brought to light again and again, along with the relative lack of interest by major media outlets (who only reported on these transgressions because the consequences became potentially calamitous to the point where they couldn't be ignored: once the crisis "passed" the tv media went back to doing what it does best, which is surface fluff).
Nitro Express
08-19-2018, 11:14 PM
There are basically only 4 accountancy firms auditing all the big businesses. If that wasn't bad enough the same 4 companies also do billions of dollars of consultancy work for the same companies so the conflict of interest is spectacular.
I'm in no way a conspiracy theorist but of course all these big businesses include all the media companies so you aren't going to hear much about this huge issue any time soon...
Not to mention big business bribes the politicians at such levels there really is nobody regulating them. The regulators tend to be former employees of big business. so it's all become a joke. In many cases regulation is used to put competitors out of business. We really are at a point where big business is more powerful than the government.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNawNrKfH4c
Kristy
08-20-2018, 10:18 PM
Attica! Attica! Attica!
LOL "Chicoms"
Seshmeister
08-20-2018, 10:29 PM
Wow comparing twitter banning Infowars for a week for harassing the parents of murdered children to the segregation of black people in the US in the 1960s.
This character Jones plays on TV is a real cunt.
Kristy
08-20-2018, 10:54 PM
By the way, is Jone$ scaling it down? Looks like it. What happened to all his monitors and shit? Maybe those lawsuits are taking its toll on this sad, F A T fuck.
Nitro Express
08-21-2018, 01:54 AM
Wow comparing twitter banning Infowars for a week for harassing the parents of murdered children to the segregation of black people in the US in the 1960s.
This character Jones plays on TV is a real cunt.
Oh the guy has been over the top the whole time. He's been crying FIRE! They are coming after us! The globalist's are going to molest our kids. Rape our wives. Make us work as slaves and then do all sorts of sick biology experiments on us. They are poisoning the food. The water. The chemtrails are going to get us. Everything is going to kill us except for global warming. Haha!
Ever watched Alex interview someone? He actually had a guest who was interesting and Alex was interrupting and shouting down his guest the whole time. Ruined the whole interview. It's like the dude drinks six energy drinks and does a few lines of cocaine before he has guests on. Haha! He might be doing the show coked to the gills.
Terry
08-25-2018, 09:13 PM
Oh the guy has been over the top the whole time. He's been crying FIRE! They are coming after us! The globalist's are going to molest our kids. Rape our wives. Make us work as slaves and then do all sorts of sick biology experiments on us. They are poisoning the food. The water. The chemtrails are going to get us. Everything is going to kill us except for global warming. Haha!
Ever watched Alex interview someone? He actually had a guest who was interesting and Alex was interrupting and shouting down his guest the whole time. Ruined the whole interview. It's like the dude drinks six energy drinks and does a few lines of cocaine before he has guests on. Haha! He might be doing the show coked to the gills.
Jones sort of reminds me of Rush Limbaugh, although not as thoughtful or disciplined (if those descriptions make any sense as applied to Limbaugh it can only be in comparison to Jones), and just...off his meds. Or he perhaps literally DOES consume 6 energy drinks and some Columbian chit chat flakes before each show. He goes on these ranting screams and seems inexhaustible well beyond the point where most people would get a coronary.
Like, even if Jones BELIEVES the stuff he says (and it all isn't some carnival barker con from top to bottom, just a ploy to sell his "survival gear" and the like), you'd think he'd need a breather here and there.
Admittedly, I haven't watched an entire show. I think the most I could do in one shot was 10 minutes (because I can only handle so much TRUTH at once), but he was just at top volume the whole time.
I can't imagine anybody other than meth tweakers being able to follow what he says and have it all somehow make sense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiGkt6iUR2M
Seshmeister
08-28-2018, 10:27 AM
LOL!
Maybe he was just doing essential research... :)
Kristy
08-28-2018, 12:18 PM
Fuck you both. They were "Chicom" trannies. And they are "taking over the world"
Alex doesn't care... as long as the Orange Imbecile still loves him.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WBr2HGDFbk
Kristy
08-28-2018, 06:23 PM
Schizotypal personality disorder typically includes five or more of these signs and symptoms:
Being a loner and lacking close friends outside of the immediate family.
Incorrect interpretation of events, such as a feeling that something which is actually harmless or inoffensive has a direct personal meaning.
Peculiar, eccentric or unusual thinking, beliefs or mannerisms.
Dressing in peculiar ways, such as appearing unkempt or wearing oddly matched clothes.
Belief in special powers, such as mental telepathy or superstitions.
Unusual perceptions, such as sensing an absent person's presence or having illusions.
Persistent and excessive social anxiety.
Peculiar style of speech, such as vague or unusual patterns of speaking, or rambling oddly during conversations
Suspicious or paranoid thoughts and constant doubts about the loyalty of others.
Flat emotions or limited or inappropriate emotional responses.
People with STPD don’t usually have psychotic symptoms. Hallucinations, delusions, and loss of touch with reality are hallmarks of psychosis. Delusions are fixed and false beliefs. However, they do often have ideas of reference. An idea of reference is an incorrect interpretation of casual incidents and external events that the person believes have a particular and unusual meaning. This meaning can either be in general or for the person experiencing the idea of reference.
Alex Jone$ is severely mentally ill.
Seshmeister
08-28-2018, 07:22 PM
That definition of 'Schizotypal personality disorder' would mean that 400,000 catholic priests had it.
Most hilarious thing about that latest Alex video is that he's promoting Bing as a search agent. Isn't Microsoft part of the Deep State Aluminumnutty Gay Frog Socialist False Flag Conspiracy?? :biggrin:
Nickdfresh
08-28-2018, 11:22 PM
Most hilarious thing about that latest Alex video is that he's promoting Bing as a search agent. Isn't Microsoft part of the Deep State Aluminumnutty Gay Frog Socialist False Flag Conspiracy?? :biggrin:
Well, Trump said Google is biased and evil, and never to use it to get your tranny porn!
Guess he never heard of Duck Duck Go? Or knowing Alex, he probably thought that sounded "Chinese" :confused13:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbjqKFfo7mg
Apparently this is Alex's new favorite actress....
https://media.them.us/photos/5b858aea2ddd040011c4718a/master/w_1280/20838685_111618336174623_5964249826429239296_n.jpg
and yeah, that's about the only picture of her that can be posted on this board! :headlights:
Looks like her lips have almost as much silicone in them as her boobs. If I didn't know better I'd think she used to be the guy from the 80s band "Dead or Alive".
Alex wants to spin her 'right round like a record baby......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp276TLt0Ts
Kristy
08-31-2018, 10:33 PM
Ghey.
Seshmeister
08-31-2018, 10:44 PM
Firstly these sites try to guess what you would like based on previous choices and secondly he's talking shit about it being a random popup.
Kristy
09-07-2018, 03:34 PM
Twitter finally and permanently banned that F A T piece of shit.
From a "liberal" link:
https://www.npr.org/2018/09/06/645352618/twitter-bans-alex-jones-and-infowars-cites-abusive-behavior
Jones got banned from Twitter not really for the shit he posted, but for "bullying" Marco Rubio - not even online, but to his face??
I can't really take sides in a Jones vs Rubio battle, but I don't really consider this exchange to be "bullying"......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekMrEujNa4w
Trolling and being a general asshole & nuisance? Definitely. Bullying or abusive? Not so much. Arguably, Jones even has grounds to press charges against Rubio for threatening assault, but he's got enough lawsuits as it is, so I doubt he would bother.
In a related question.... why hasn't Twitter banned Cheeto yet? Many of his crazed 3 AM tweet-rants have been more "abusive" than what Jones did in the above video.
Nitro Express
09-08-2018, 03:37 PM
Jones got banned from Twitter not really for the shit he posted, but for "bullying" Marco Rubio - not even online, but to his face??
I can't really take sides in a Jones vs Rubio battle, but I don't really consider this exchange to be "bullying"......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekMrEujNa4w
Trolling and being a general asshole & nuisance? Definitely. Bullying or abusive? Not so much. Arguably, Jones even has grounds to press charges against Rubio for threatening assault, but he's got enough lawsuits as it is, so I doubt he would bother.
I consider it great entertainment. When Jones told Rubio to go back to the bathhouse I fell over laughing. The thing is Alex Jones and Donald Trump are trolls. Trump is the king of trolling. The best I've ever seen and yeah Twitter would ban him in a heartbeat but they don't know what to do. They aren't sure exactly what will happen if they ban the President of the United States.
Nitro Express
09-08-2018, 03:43 PM
What's funny is Alex Jones got started by trolling Governor George W Bush on public access TV in Austin, Texas. Yup. Jones was trying to take down the Bush crime family. Haha!
I do remember some anti-BCE rants from him back in the day. But that's not really inconisistent with Cheeto himself and other members of the extreme right who are now trying to rebrand the BCE as some sort of "liberals". Yeah, right. :puke:
Terry
09-08-2018, 08:46 PM
Yeah, there was this weird, brief spate of W Revisionism that happened right after Trump won.
It's like, have people no memories about W's terms in office?
People getting wistful over Jeb Bush not having won the nomination and the presidency after Trump was elected, although one heard precious few like sentiments when Jebby couldn't catch any sort of traction in the primaries.
Terry
09-08-2018, 08:56 PM
I consider it great entertainment. When Jones told Rubio to go back to the bathhouse I fell over laughing. The thing is Alex Jones and Donald Trump are trolls. Trump is the king of trolling. The best I've ever seen and yeah Twitter would ban him in a heartbeat but they don't know what to do. They aren't sure exactly what will happen if they ban the President of the United States.
Dunno about the king of it, but I would readily admit that Trump has a natural proclivity for it. And it throws professional politicians who are used to...what...elevated degrees of decorum off balance when Trump trolls them. They don't know how to handle it. They're not used to it. Virtually all of the other GOP 2016 primary candidates couldn't handle Trump trolling them at the debates. If they ignored him, they looked feckless. If they tried to match him, they came up inadequate when compared to him. Yet so many of them took the bait, swung at his pitches in the dirt, inevitably missed and appeared foolish in doing do: if you're gonna sling mud back, sling it.
Trump is totally comfortable slinging mud and insulting people. To me, he appears most at ease and natural when doing these things. He slings it himself, and doesn't need hired help a la Lee Atwater, Karl Rove, James Carville to do so in order to appear above the fray. Trump loves the fray, and that is part of what Trump's supporters love about him.
Nitro Express
09-09-2018, 05:08 AM
I do remember some anti-BCE rants from him back in the day. But that's not really inconisistent with Cheeto himself and other members of the extreme right who are now trying to rebrand the BCE as some sort of "liberals". Yeah, right. :puke:
Everyone is confused on the left/right thing these days. I don't think them labels mean much anymore. The Bush family are just war profiteers and cocaine cowboys.
Nitro Express
09-09-2018, 05:11 AM
Yeah, there was this weird, brief spate of W Revisionism that happened right after Trump won.
It's like, have people no memories about W's terms in office?
People getting wistful over Jeb Bush not having won the nomination and the presidency after Trump was elected, although one heard precious few like sentiments when Jebby couldn't catch any sort of traction in the primaries.
Haha! I loved seeing Cheeto troll low energy Jeb! and seeing Jeb stand there all pissed off. Then Barbara Bush get's pissed and calls Trump a despicable human being. It was great.
Nitro Express
09-09-2018, 05:16 AM
Dunno about the king of it, but I would readily admit that Trump has a natural proclivity for it. And it throws professional politicians who are used to...what...elevated degrees of decorum off balance when Trump trolls them. They don't know how to handle it. They're not used to it. Virtually all of the other GOP 2016 primary candidates couldn't handle Trump trolling them at the debates. If they ignored him, they looked feckless. If they tried to match him, they came up inadequate when compared to him. Yet so many of them took the bait, swung at his pitches in the dirt, inevitably missed and appeared foolish in doing do: if you're gonna sling mud back, sling it.
Trump is totally comfortable slinging mud and insulting people. To me, he appears most at ease and natural when doing these things. He slings it himself, and doesn't need hired help a la Lee Atwater, Karl Rove, James Carville to do so in order to appear above the fray. Trump loves the fray, and that is part of what Trump's supporters love about him.
Spot on. Trump talks dirt like a pro-wrestler. People elected him because they were just fed up with the professional politicians and the kabuki theater they play in Washington DC. Trump was put in the White House to punish the establishment. Every time Trump puts a firecracker in the cat's ass, middle America loves it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS00jcIBRsA
...and he's ready to die and meet God (though I suspect he might be going the other direction :devildance: )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzUnZEhXlhs
Nitro Express
09-25-2018, 12:52 AM
...and he's ready to die and meet God (though I suspect he might be going the other direction :devildance: )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzUnZEhXlhs
Haha! Alex Joes is crazy like a fox. He's made a lot of money drawing attention to himself. Like I keep saying. If you want to really hurt Alex Jones ignore him. The more feathers he ruffles the more that helps him. Don't think banning hurts him. It just makes him more popular with his base and they will buy more of his stuff to "Save Alex" Haha! It's kind of funny. The right now is the counter culture. It used to be the left. Now most of the big corporations support the left. It used to be the right trying to censor people. Now it's the left. We will see if the libertarians and some Republicans can get as crazy as the hippies did. Haha!
Nitro Express
09-25-2018, 01:17 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS00jcIBRsA
The donkey head is classic Alex Jones. He will go off the rails every now and then to get people talking about him. Then a percentage of that attention buys something from his store. He's got it all figured out.
Nitro Express
09-25-2018, 01:25 AM
https://youtu.be/WNngSFuOV2g
Nothing new. Alex runs off a formula and applies it to current events. He goes full on crazy now and then to increase the attention on himself and make himself more popular with his product buying base. Someone on the left could use this same formula but you have to be interesting to watch. Most people can't pull that off. It's now easy to be crazy in the right ways and keep it all going. Alex is a master of it.
Nitro Express
09-25-2018, 01:40 AM
https://youtu.be/7zPd2RSr9uQ
Haha! Does anyone like booger eating Ted Cruz?
The donkey head is classic Alex Jones. He will go off the rails every now and then to get people talking about him. Then a percentage of that attention buys something from his store. He's got it all figured out.
Yeah right... he couldn't even quote Iron Maiden lyrics properly. :metalbang:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxnN05vOuSM
Nitro Express
09-25-2018, 05:48 AM
Yeah right... he couldn't even quote Iron Maiden lyrics properly. :metalbang:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxnN05vOuSM
Yeah but he managed to build a sizable media establishment from a cable access show. I'm sure Alex loved it when Hillary Clinton slagged him during the presidential campaign. A stupid move by Hillary because that just made Infowars more relevant. Now with large internet companies going after him it does the same thing. Some smaller outfits will host Infowars and they will target that type of audience and grow. So I guess that means social media and video hosting sites are going the way of cable news networks. It will be interesting to see what happens. Like I said, if Hillary and others just ignored Alex Jones he would be a lot smaller than he is now. People just don't get it.
Nitro Express
09-25-2018, 05:55 AM
I would say Alex Jones was libertarian but now he's drifted more into right wing Republican territory. Probably because that's where the money is. Rush Limbaugh has played that market the longest and seems to be doing well still. Alex is far from being the professional broadcaster Rush Limbaugh is but the right wing is a gold mine that has made several political commentators rich. Quite a list. On the left you have Rachel Maddow on the cable networks. She's the Sean Hannity of the left. Then you have the Young Turks on the internet. I believe Cenk Ungar was on MSNBC at one time. Rachel came from Radio America and maybe Cenk did too. There just is good money to be made covering politics if you can manage to build an audience for yourself. Alex of course is the most colorful of the bunch. Maybe Glenn Beck would still be around if he remained a Morning Zoo guy but he seemed to want to be a pseudo college professor or Jesus Christ. He kind of blew himself out. Oh well. Good riddins.
Rush used to do entertaining radio. In the 90s he was still right wing as all Hell, but it was basically comedy. I could listen to him and laugh about it. Then the oxycontin ate his brain and it became all hate all the time.
Rachel Maddow and Sean Hannity have virtually nothing in common (aside from both being well paid employees of corporate media). Rachel is a Rhodes scholar. Hannity is an idiot. Rachel definitely has a "Democratic" spin (unfortunately, more in the DLC/Hillbot camp) but she's based in facts, while Hannity starts with the right wing spin and goes hysterically beyond there. Which is why Cheeto loves him.
The Young Turks were around for many years before Cenk's short lived run at MSNBC. They were on Air America for a while also, but were independent of that network (i.e. not controlled by the Hillary/DLC narrative) which is why their show survived the demise of that network, due to mismanagement at the hands of Hillary shill Mark Green. Cenk was dismissed from MSNBC because he refused to kiss the "Democratic" establishment ass... much like Keith Olberman & Phil Donahue were. Both the Young Turks & Olbermann soon moved on to Current TV, but sadly that network was eventually bought up by Al Jazeera, and the new owners wanted to start over with a clean slate and run all straight news shows as opposed to the news/opinion format. None of which helped them get a better placement of their channel with the US cable monopolies, and eventually AJ America failed because nobody who didn't want to pay $200/month for cable tv could actually watch it. Ironically the original English language international broadcast version of Al Jazeera continues to do well with online viewers, though still ignored by the cable industry. TYT also is doing very well, and now has their own channel on YouTube TV, and is reportedly in negotiations with other cord-cutter services like Sling, Playstation Vue, etc.
Perhaps if Alex had reigned it in with the slanderous bullshit and the crazy illuminati gay frog shit, he could have been making the same deals, instead of getting himself virtually banished from the internet? At least BecKKK - as crazy as he is - took a chance with his own platform before failing.
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