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This guy won too. Despite Team Hillcunt's attempts to destroy him.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDWwAf8kt9k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCkmVuzNzi8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irUKkruoibA
ZahZoo
06-27-2018, 10:07 AM
The Democratic party needs to find a platform... obstructionism isn't winning them anything.
The Democratic party needs to find a platform... obstructionism isn't winning them anything.
https://www.justicedemocrats.com/platform
https://ourrevolution.com/issues/
Ben Jealous’s Victory Is Proof the Democratic Party’s Left Flank Is Winning Concrete Power
BY Theo Anderson
inthesetimes.com (https://inthesetimes.com/article/21239/ben_jealous_victory_democratic_party_bernie_sander s_maryland)
Web Only / Features » June 26, 2018
Jealous’s victory in Maryland shows the Bernie Sanders wing of the Democratic Party is ascendant—and that bold progressive ideas are the path to victory.
Jealous’ win offers a glimpse of how progressives might translate party-shaping power into concrete political power.
It’s easy to be hyperbolic about Ben Jealous’ victory in Maryland’s Democratic gubernatorial primary.
Last winter, Mother Jones called it maybe “the most important election of 2018.” In truth, it isn’t even the most important race that Ben Jealous, the winner, will compete in this year. That will take place in November, when Jealous faces the incumbent Republican, Larry Hogan, whose approval numbers are in the low 70s even though Maryland is a heavily Democratic state.
But the excitement around the Jealous candidacy is understandable. We are a little past the midpoint of the primary season, and the media narrative has coalesced around the idea that progressives have succeeded in moving the Democratic Party left, but not in actually winning primaries.
Jealous’ win over Prince George’s County Executive Rushern Baker doesn’t only undercut that narrative. It also offers a glimpse of how progressives might translate party-shaping power into concrete political power.
It’s not just that Jealous—former president of the NAACP—has a strikingly progressive platform, though that’s true. His plan for criminal-justice reform, for example, is a 26-page document that goes way beyond the scope and depth of typical platform boilerplate. It has elaborate sections on topics like “reducing the incarceration of women by addressing the unique roles played by victimization, caregiving, race, and poverty.” It notes that Jealous “will expand access to adequate mental health and addiction services by funding community treatment centers as an alternative to incarceration,” and calls for legalizing marijuana and ending cash bail. On healthcare, Jealous has called for instituting a state-level Medicare for all system, similar to Bernie Sanders’ national single-payer plan.
What’s notable about the Jealous campaign is the way he is using this vision, and the traditional and emerging machinery of progressive politics, to energize and expand the Democratic coalition in a way that could change the game in 2020 and beyond.
His list of endorsements, for example, includes some of the key players in the burgeoning progressive electoral infrastructure—People’s Action, Our Revolution, and Justice Democrats for example—as well as broad union support, including endorsements by teachers’ and postal workers’ unions, National Nurses United, and the Service Employees International Union. He has also been backed by Sanders himself, who made multiple appearances with Jealous on the campaign trail.
As the Washington Post recently noted, the Jealous campaign had three field organizers who coordinated a team of more than 1,000 volunteers, “relying heavily on unions to mobilize their members,” and targeting black and Latino voters.
Much of this is nuts and bolts Democratic politics, or used to be. What’s new and promising is the bringing together of a radically progressive platform with boots-on-the-ground support from a diverse coalition. It includes new and traditional electoral infrastructure, a grassroots base of volunteers, and a plan to reach out to underrepresented minorities who tend vote at lower rates than the general population.
That combination helped Jealous make up ground quickly on Baker, the frontrunner for much of the race. As recently as February, Baker had nearly double the support of Jealous in polling—26 percent to 14 percent. Baker had endorsements from much of the state’s Democratic establishment and, until Jealous’ surge through the spring, led his nearest challenger by more than 10 points.
Baker took progressive positions on some key issues—a $15 minimum wage and free college, notably—but didn’t support Medicare for all. But the main difference between the candidates didn’t involve a particular policy. It was more about the scope of their vision and the conviction behind it.
As the Baltimore Sun noted in its endorsement of Jealous, “we looked for the candidate who is best able to articulate a cohesive progressive vision to contrast with Mr. Hogan’s center-right policies so that voters can send a clear message in November about the direction they want the state to take, and we looked for the candidate who would best be able to govern if he or she wins.”
A common complaint about the Democratic Party, especially in the Trump era, has been that it offers plenty of criticism but has few solutions. The Jealous campaign, with his comprehensive vision of where he wants to take Maryland, is a forceful rejection of that notion. He shows that party’s progressive wing, at least, has plenty of policy ideas—bold, ambitious, detailed ones.
More than that, though, the Jealous campaign is evidence that having an ambitious agenda—and being equally ambitious in articulating it—is the only way to build a movement that can push that agenda through. This is the heart of the ongoing struggle for the soul of the Democratic Party, which has tepid movement support because so often the party seems to have lost its soul, or sold it.
The last two years have shown that creating fundamental change will be a long game. Plenty of progressives have lost, and plenty will lose, their campaigns. Yet sometimes things come together in a way that hints at the possibilities of something stirring. Hyperbole aside, the Jealous campaign is one of those moments.
Democrats should take note.
Nitro Express
06-27-2018, 01:19 PM
The Democratic party needs to find a platform... obstructionism isn't winning them anything.
No and if it continues it's going to destroy the Democrat Party. They will self-destruct. Basically the current Democrat Party leadership is a bunch of old crazy people drunk on power who don't want to give their seat up.
Nitro Express
06-27-2018, 01:23 PM
Ben Jealous’s Victory Is Proof the Democratic Party’s Left Flank Is Winning Concrete Power
BY Theo Anderson
inthesetimes.com (https://inthesetimes.com/article/21239/ben_jealous_victory_democratic_party_bernie_sander s_maryland)
Web Only / Features » June 26, 2018
Jealous’s victory in Maryland shows the Bernie Sanders wing of the Democratic Party is ascendant—and that bold progressive ideas are the path to victory.
Jealous’ win offers a glimpse of how progressives might translate party-shaping power into concrete political power.
It’s easy to be hyperbolic about Ben Jealous’ victory in Maryland’s Democratic gubernatorial primary.
Last winter, Mother Jones called it maybe “the most important election of 2018.” In truth, it isn’t even the most important race that Ben Jealous, the winner, will compete in this year. That will take place in November, when Jealous faces the incumbent Republican, Larry Hogan, whose approval numbers are in the low 70s even though Maryland is a heavily Democratic state.
But the excitement around the Jealous candidacy is understandable. We are a little past the midpoint of the primary season, and the media narrative has coalesced around the idea that progressives have succeeded in moving the Democratic Party left, but not in actually winning primaries.
Jealous’ win over Prince George’s County Executive Rushern Baker doesn’t only undercut that narrative. It also offers a glimpse of how progressives might translate party-shaping power into concrete political power.
It’s not just that Jealous—former president of the NAACP—has a strikingly progressive platform, though that’s true. His plan for criminal-justice reform, for example, is a 26-page document that goes way beyond the scope and depth of typical platform boilerplate. It has elaborate sections on topics like “reducing the incarceration of women by addressing the unique roles played by victimization, caregiving, race, and poverty.” It notes that Jealous “will expand access to adequate mental health and addiction services by funding community treatment centers as an alternative to incarceration,” and calls for legalizing marijuana and ending cash bail. On healthcare, Jealous has called for instituting a state-level Medicare for all system, similar to Bernie Sanders’ national single-payer plan.
What’s notable about the Jealous campaign is the way he is using this vision, and the traditional and emerging machinery of progressive politics, to energize and expand the Democratic coalition in a way that could change the game in 2020 and beyond.
His list of endorsements, for example, includes some of the key players in the burgeoning progressive electoral infrastructure—People’s Action, Our Revolution, and Justice Democrats for example—as well as broad union support, including endorsements by teachers’ and postal workers’ unions, National Nurses United, and the Service Employees International Union. He has also been backed by Sanders himself, who made multiple appearances with Jealous on the campaign trail.
As the Washington Post recently noted, the Jealous campaign had three field organizers who coordinated a team of more than 1,000 volunteers, “relying heavily on unions to mobilize their members,” and targeting black and Latino voters.
Much of this is nuts and bolts Democratic politics, or used to be. What’s new and promising is the bringing together of a radically progressive platform with boots-on-the-ground support from a diverse coalition. It includes new and traditional electoral infrastructure, a grassroots base of volunteers, and a plan to reach out to underrepresented minorities who tend vote at lower rates than the general population.
That combination helped Jealous make up ground quickly on Baker, the frontrunner for much of the race. As recently as February, Baker had nearly double the support of Jealous in polling—26 percent to 14 percent. Baker had endorsements from much of the state’s Democratic establishment and, until Jealous’ surge through the spring, led his nearest challenger by more than 10 points.
Baker took progressive positions on some key issues—a $15 minimum wage and free college, notably—but didn’t support Medicare for all. But the main difference between the candidates didn’t involve a particular policy. It was more about the scope of their vision and the conviction behind it.
As the Baltimore Sun noted in its endorsement of Jealous, “we looked for the candidate who is best able to articulate a cohesive progressive vision to contrast with Mr. Hogan’s center-right policies so that voters can send a clear message in November about the direction they want the state to take, and we looked for the candidate who would best be able to govern if he or she wins.”
A common complaint about the Democratic Party, especially in the Trump era, has been that it offers plenty of criticism but has few solutions. The Jealous campaign, with his comprehensive vision of where he wants to take Maryland, is a forceful rejection of that notion. He shows that party’s progressive wing, at least, has plenty of policy ideas—bold, ambitious, detailed ones.
More than that, though, the Jealous campaign is evidence that having an ambitious agenda—and being equally ambitious in articulating it—is the only way to build a movement that can push that agenda through. This is the heart of the ongoing struggle for the soul of the Democratic Party, which has tepid movement support because so often the party seems to have lost its soul, or sold it.
The last two years have shown that creating fundamental change will be a long game. Plenty of progressives have lost, and plenty will lose, their campaigns. Yet sometimes things come together in a way that hints at the possibilities of something stirring. Hyperbole aside, the Jealous campaign is one of those moments.
Democrats should take note.
Bernie Sanders isn't a Democrat. He's an independent. Yeah sure he had to run as a Democrat to have any shot at winning the presidency but the Democrat Party shot him down with their super delegate cannon. But since Strzok and his lover were talking shit about Bernie at the FBI that's pretty good evidence Bernie was the real deal and not fake opposition to Hillary. So I will give Sanders points on integrity there. He got screwed.
Nitro Express
06-27-2018, 01:26 PM
This guy won too. Despite Team Hillcunt's attempts to destroy him.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDWwAf8kt9k
Corporate Democrats is a good description. No different that corporate Republicans except the rhetoric and the sales pitch is different. We need congressional term limits or everyone just get bought by the K Street lobby machine.
Kristy
06-27-2018, 02:34 PM
The Democratic party needs to find a platform... obstructionism isn't winning them anything.
They're winning seats, you obstructive WallMart Cheerio-sucking assfart. Problem is if these Bernie brat fucktards get in the way, they'll fuck everything up just like they did last time.
private parts
06-27-2018, 03:25 PM
It's already fucked. Tough week to be a loser Demonrat. :biggrin:
Trump 45 - Libshits 0
Kristy
06-27-2018, 05:01 PM
It's already fucked. Tough week to be a loser Demonrat. :biggrin:
Trump 45 - Libshits 0
White, male, unemployed, suburbanite and failure of a musician everybody. Fucking Trumptards are a racist dime-a-dozen
Nitro Express
06-27-2018, 06:56 PM
They're winning seats, you obstructive WallMart Cheerio-sucking assfart. Problem is if these Bernie brat fucktards get in the way, they'll fuck everything up just like they did last time.
https://youtu.be/_xZvo5z6Q4U
Bernie is a playa. Is a $178,000 Audi sports car part of the free shit we are all going to get?
Nitro Express
06-27-2018, 06:58 PM
They're winning seats, you obstructive WallMart Cheerio-sucking assfart. Problem is if these Bernie brat fucktards get in the way, they'll fuck everything up just like they did last time.
In the US Congress there is an asshole for every seat.
https://youtu.be/_xzvo5z6q4u
bernie is a playa. Is a $178,000 audi sports car part of the free shit we are all going to get?
In the words of the Orange Imbecile himself, that's completely "FAKE NEWS"
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bernie-sanders-audi-8/
Nitro Express
06-28-2018, 02:50 AM
It's a funny video. Could be a guy that looks like Bernie Sanders driving it. Could be a doctored video. Could actually be real. Also what gives Snopes any credibility other than they claim to have it? Nobody has any credibility anymore.
Kristy
06-28-2018, 10:09 AM
Bernie is a playa. Is a $178,000 Audi sports car part of the free shit we are all going to get?
Dumbass Trumptards. Still falling for Photoshop
Kristy
06-28-2018, 10:11 AM
It's a funny video. Could be a guy that looks like Bernie Sanders driving it. Could be a doctored video. Could actually be real. Also what gives Snopes any credibility other than they claim to have it? Nobody has any credibility anymore.
Um, that it came from 4Chan should tell you everything right there. Dumbass.
private parts
06-28-2018, 11:19 AM
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/06/bernie-sanders-made-over-1-million-last-year-and-has-joined-the-1-percent.html
Either way, Bernie is now a 1 percent-er. He could buy that car if he wanted to. Socialism sound pretty good.
Nitro Express
06-28-2018, 01:21 PM
Um, that it came from 4Chan should tell you everything right there. Dumbass.
First of all I'm not a Trump supporter and second I don't own one of those dumb ass Make America Great Again hats. I posted the video as a joke. My hell you people take everything seriously. Makes you fun to troll actually.
Nitro Express
06-28-2018, 01:24 PM
Honestly. Bernie Sanders is a nut job and if you think electing people who think we should have wide open borders and no border patrol need to have their heads checked.
Hell, if I lived in Vermont (or Wyoming, for that matter) I might buy a car like that, because there would actually be roads I could drive it on. It would be wasted around here, when you're lucky if you can get up to 60 MPH on I-5 even in the middle of the night anymore. Too damn much traffic.
But that's me. That's not Bernie. Just don't see him as the fast car type of guy. Unless it's a Tesla Roadster maybe.
Honestly. Bernie Sanders is a nut job and if you think electing people who think we should have wide open borders and no border patrol need to have their heads checked.
First, Bernie has never said anything remotely close to that. Second, ICE is NOT the Border Patrol, and has no affiliation with the Border Patrol whatsoever. The Border Patrol does their job. They were doing their job before all of this post 9/11 manufactured paranoid horseshit. They caught an actual goddamned terrorist trying to sneak into the country via the ferry from Victoria BC to Port Angeles WA. Just good old fashioned law enforcement. No Gestapo tactics needed And that's exactly what ICE is.
ZahZoo
06-28-2018, 03:55 PM
They're winning seats, you obstructive WallMart Cheerio-sucking assfart. Problem is if these Bernie brat fucktards get in the way, they'll fuck everything up just like they did last time.
Nope... one of the top Democratic Congressmen in line to replace Pelosi got taken out by a 28 year old nobody, Bernie brat. In a primary that he should have easily won. That's assfart losing, Dumbass™...
Kristy
06-28-2018, 07:21 PM
Nope... one of the top Democratic Congressmen in line to replace Pelosi got taken out by a 28 year old nobody, Bernie brat. In a primary that he should have easily won. That's assfart losing, Dumbass™...
Who the fuck is talking about Pelosi? This is what I love about your assfart losing dumbass Trumptards you live in your own reality.
Well see in November, assfart.
Nickdfresh
06-28-2018, 08:41 PM
The Democratic party needs to find a platform... obstructionism isn't winning them anything.
This is just a silly comment. The GOP has based everything on obstructionism...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX9jcoRCuHY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaeDZmYuOC8
Guess who's not taking shit from any reich wing propagandists....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmfZEJGVPT0
ZahZoo
07-05-2018, 09:55 AM
This is just a silly comment. The GOP has based everything on obstructionism...
Can't argue that... I'd say traffic runs heavy in both directions on the road to governing...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_SCTAnjsxA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x450px99BJQ
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoons/WuerkM/2018/WuerkM20180726_low.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wF1tQivvEI
Kristy
07-26-2018, 02:10 PM
Ghey.
slave FORD thinks Young Jerks is actual news when they are the Fox News for fucktards. Do us a favor you Bernie brat shitheads and stay out of the election.
Do us a favor you Bernie brat shitheads and stay out of the election.
...and have 8 years of a F A T Orange Imbecile?? No thanks!
Every DINO on the ballot in 2018 is going to lose, just like they did in 2010, 2014, and 2016. Another shitty DINO nominee in 2020 will lose to the pathetic Cheeto. Or to Pence, should ImOrangement happen.
The Clinton DLC tools gave us NAFTA, FAUX Noize, Sinclair Broadcasting, Scumcast, Clear Channel, the revival of Wall Street banking casinos with the repeal of Glass Steagal, and blind acceptance of the Likud PNAC global war doctrine.
They have nothing valid to offer the American people, and the voters are finally realizing this reality. Just a damn shame they didn't figure it out before the 2016 primary was stolen, which resulted in Hitler's dumber Orange cousin being "elected" by the 18th century slavery relic electoral college.
Kristy
07-26-2018, 02:41 PM
Trump is YOUR FAULT. Take some god damn responsibility in your miserable lives, you Berine shits
Nitro Express
07-26-2018, 03:38 PM
...and have 8 years of a F A T Orange Imbecile?? No thanks!
Every DINO on the ballot in 2018 is going to lose, just like they did in 2010, 2014, and 2016. Another shitty DINO nominee in 2020 will lose to the pathetic Cheeto. Or to Pence, should ImOrangement happen.
The Clinton DLC tools gave us NAFTA, FAUX Noize, Sinclair Broadcasting, Scumcast, Clear Channel, the revival of Wall Street banking casinos with the repeal of Glass Steagal, and blind acceptance of the Likud PNAC global war doctrine.
They have nothing valid to offer the American people, and the voters are finally realizing this reality. Just a damn shame they didn't figure it out before the 2016 primary was stolen, which resulted in Hitler's dumber Orange cousin being "elected" by the 18th century slavery relic electoral college.
The Bush family and the Clinton family are one of the same. Trump would have gotten thrown under the bus but the Republican Party doesn't have superdelegates. Bill Clinton was letting Buschco land their cocaine in Mena, Arkansas and probably became president because he cooperated. I don't think HW Bush liked being president too much so he broke his tax promises and intentionally lost to his puppet Bill. All I can say about Cheeto is the Bush family and their minions hate the guy. Bush/Clinton=two cheeks on the same ass. They control both parties.
Trump would have gotten thrown under the bus but the Republican Party doesn't have superdelegates.
Actually, the Republicans have their own way of rigging the primary, and it's exactly how Trump became the nominee.
They don't have superdelegates, but they have "winner take all" rules in many of the red states. Meaning that whoever wins the primary or caucus takes ALL the delegates to the national convention, regardless of what percentage of the vote that candidate actually received. The Republican primary started out with a 17 candidate clown car, so while Cheeto won many of those early states, he only had an average of 30% of the vote. Even as many of the other candidates dropped off, he was often splitting the count three ways with Cruz & Kasich. Didn't get an actual majority of the vote (50% or better) until the NY primary, which was about half way through the cycle.
Unlike the "Democratic" :rolleyes: superdelegates, the Republican establishment probably never actually intended for Cheeto to be their nominee. But it was still their designed method of rigging the primaries which made it possible for him to win the nomination, without actually getting that many votes from Republican primary voters.
Nickdfresh
07-26-2018, 04:37 PM
The Democratic party needs to find a platform... obstructionism isn't winning them anything.
Except an almost perma-majority starting in 2018 with Republicans alienating the millennials with their "obstructionism", thinly-veiled racism, and clearly being out of touch with the actual working and middle classes that actually are educated and are taking over what are parts of the old South....
There are only so many Trumps that can pretend to care about the white working classes while habitually and knowingly lying to them, then adopting policies completely antithetical to their interests like fucking their health care and cutting back on entitlements for the poor whites that voted for him, and get away with it...
Nickdfresh
07-26-2018, 04:43 PM
They're winning seats, you obstructive WallMart Cheerio-sucking assfart. Problem is if these Bernie brat fucktards get in the way, they'll fuck everything up just like they did last time.
LOL Believe it or not I don't totally disagree with you. But you can't blame the "Berniebrats" for Hillary's completely stupid use of a private email server, Russian intelligence hacking and systematic fake news, the fact that 3/4ths of Republicans are stupid inbreds that are happy to vote against their working class interests at the behest of ultra-rich "donors" (read bribers) like the (c)Koch(ck) brothers, and Comey's November surprise letter. Yes, in some ways I agree that I don't want the Democrats to become too far to the left, but at the same time, the supposed "socialists" AREN'T! Even if they think they are. Bernie's politics isn't far from the center or even center-right parties of most Western European democracies...
Kristy
07-26-2018, 05:04 PM
I don't care. These Bernie brats are nothing more than self-centered cry babies. If they don't get their way well then, it's fuck you and everybody who doesn't agree with us. Look at slave FORD just another clueless Bernie brat who cries foul than do anything to help the system - and it is a system that even their master belongs to. What gets me is that these Bernie shitheads know the Rethuglicons know of their childish tactics and thus exploited them. So yeah, they are to blame so fuck them and their fucking repetitive crying and bullshit propaganda they pass along as news. Cenk Dick Yanker is a propagandist just like Alex Jone$ and look how slave FORD flies into his storm of utter bullshit totally blind. It gets really, really old.
ZahZoo
07-27-2018, 08:23 AM
Except an almost perma-majority starting in 2018 with Republicans alienating the millennials with their "obstructionism", thinly-veiled racism, and clearly being out of touch with the actual working and middle classes that actually are educated and are taking over what are parts of the old South....
There are only so many Trumps that can pretend to care about the white working classes while habitually and knowingly lying to them, then adopting policies completely antithetical to their interests like fucking their health care and cutting back on entitlements for the poor whites that voted for him, and get away with it...
Someone please explain to me why society has become so fucking obsessed with catering to "millennials" or Generation Y..?
Each generation of 20 somethings to mid-30's enters adulthood with grand ideas and their own identity shaped by the events of their childhood. Each must adapt to the world they were raised in, work their way into the adult mainstream and wait their turn to run things until the previous generation fades away. That seems to be the normal cycle of human life... Why all the fuss over this batch..?
Back on topic... I don't see where either major political party can take real credit for the economic health of the nation. Not saying they don't "influence" the economy... but they sure as hell don't drive it. Thankfully so if you look at how poorly managed our Federal government is mismanaged!! By influence I mean certain policy changes either free up economic growth or in more cases drive a positive perception to where businesses feel safe to make capital investments that spur economic growth.
I think the current growth spurt could have happened a few years sooner in Obama's second term had the policy messages and some minor regulatory reform been enacted sooner. Sentiment within the markets drives spending decisions... all that triggers that in a lot of cases is perceptions coming out of DC. The overall financial world was in good shape and primed to drive growth 3-4 years ago... but the message from the previous administration fed more sentiment of uncertainty and less optimism. The uncertainty hasn't gone away... but the optimism has sure as hell driven economic growth that we haven't seen in a long time! That's starting to improve life for the actual working and middle classes...
jacksmar
07-27-2018, 09:17 AM
Someone please explain to me why society has become so fucking obsessed with catering to "millennials" or Generation Y..?
Each generation of 20 somethings to mid-30's enters adulthood with grand ideas and their own identity shaped by the events of their childhood. Each must adapt to the world they were raised in, work their way into the adult mainstream and wait their turn to run things until the previous generation fades away. That seems to be the normal cycle of human life... Why all the fuss over this batch..?
Back on topic... I don't see where either major political party can take real credit for the economic health of the nation. Not saying they don't "influence" the economy... but they sure as hell don't drive it. Thankfully so if you look at how poorly managed our Federal government is mismanaged!! By influence I mean certain policy changes either free up economic growth or in more cases drive a positive perception to where businesses feel safe to make capital investments that spur economic growth.
I think the current growth spurt could have happened a few years sooner in Obama's second term had the policy messages and some minor regulatory reform been enacted sooner. Sentiment within the markets drives spending decisions... all that triggers that in a lot of cases is perceptions coming out of DC. The overall financial world was in good shape and primed to drive growth 3-4 years ago... but the message from the previous administration fed more sentiment of uncertainty and less optimism. The uncertainty hasn't gone away... but the optimism has sure as hell driven economic growth that we haven't seen in a long time! That's starting to improve life for the actual working and middle classes...
This is such a good point. Let's start with the premise: Don't play in the street.
7-8 years ago there was Occupy Wall Street playing in the street. Current idiots like BLM and antifa la la playing in the street. 60's radicals playing in the street in Watts, Cleveland, Buffalo, Philly, Chicago, Kansas City, Newark, Louisville, Baltimore.
What did it get these idiots? Attention. Result? Zero.
What has social media given these millennials and Y'ers? Attention. Result? Zero.
Did it make them any more intelligent? No. Take the new hero of the left Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The blithe ignorance of this absolutely clueless millennial shows why socialism is the social preference of Y'ers and millennials. What have they made or in another term manufactured? Nothing. It's their bond or connection and why socialism appeals to these indolent non-producers.
These idiots don't get that many of us were idealistic assholes and were twice as smartassed, know it all youth.
Fortunately the realities of life and the world sink in pretty quick or used to. This batch of idiots have been so insulated they may not get it. And Z, you're talking about economic health in a sensible and reasoned way from experience. This new hero of the left is fresh out of a university where she majored in economics & international relations and was at the top of her class.
When the realities of life and the world sink in for the millennials my guess is the last thing they're going to want is their college debt forgiven. They're going want their money back...
Nickdfresh
07-27-2018, 10:32 AM
Someone please explain to me why society has become so fucking obsessed with catering to "millennials" or Generation Y..?
Pretty much every study shows they're very much different than their predecessors in terms of how they view the world in regard to economics and race. They're not going to as easily fall for the politics of divisiveness the sort Trump and other Repubs have rolled out...
Each generation of 20 somethings to mid-30's enters adulthood with grand ideas and their own identity shaped by the events of their childhood. Each must adapt to the world they were raised in, work their way into the adult mainstream and wait their turn to run things until the previous generation fades away. That seems to be the normal cycle of human life... Why all the fuss over this batch..?
Back on topic... I don't see where either major political party can take real credit for the economic health of the nation. Not saying they don't "influence" the economy... but they sure as hell don't drive it. Thankfully so if you look at how poorly managed our Federal government is mismanaged!! By influence I mean certain policy changes either free up economic growth or in more cases drive a positive perception to where businesses feel safe to make capital investments that spur economic growth.
I think the current growth spurt could have happened a few years sooner in Obama's second term had the policy messages and some minor regulatory reform been enacted sooner. Sentiment within the markets drives spending decisions... all that triggers that in a lot of cases is perceptions coming out of DC. The overall financial world was in good shape and primed to drive growth 3-4 years ago... but the message from the previous administration fed more sentiment of uncertainty and less optimism. The uncertainty hasn't gone away... but the optimism has sure as hell driven economic growth that we haven't seen in a long time! That's starting to improve life for the actual working and middle classes...
The Obama Admin created the current "economic spurt" unless you've selectively forgotten the near-depression of 2007-09? Obama in no small part was taking leadership even before he was sworn in and led the recovery. What regulations, specifically? The ones where we piss all over the environment or pander to the 20,000 coal miners left which will result in greater environmental costs down the road? Or where looming tariffs are causing the Chinese and others to stock up on soybeans, but will severally impact US agriculture to the point that the pResident is already talking about welfare for farmers to the tune of $12 billion...
Nickdfresh
07-27-2018, 10:34 AM
This is such a good point. Let's start with the premise: Don't play in the street.
7-8 years ago there was Occupy Wall Street playing in the street. Current idiots like BLM and antifa la la playing in the street. 60's radicals playing in the street in Watts, Cleveland, Buffalo, Philly, Chicago, Kansas City, Newark, Louisville, Baltimore.
What did it get these idiots? Attention. Result? Zero.
They're in Buffalo? Where?
Who gives a fuck about them except for you and your lunatic fringe sites you regurgitate? What will destroy the GOP are the increasingly liberal suburban voters shifting South...
Kristy
07-27-2018, 02:47 PM
Someone please explain to me why society has become so fucking obsessed with catering to "millennials" or Generation Y..?
Simply because they are the most dumbfucked and retarded generation America has ever seen in its history. They are also greedy, don't want to work, feel entitled to everything yet are rich and bored out of their god damn minds. Problem is, neither major corporate-controlled political party knows quite how to exploit them for their own gain yet.
Nickdfresh
07-27-2018, 02:49 PM
Simply because they are the most dumbfucked and retarded generation America has ever seen in its history. They are also greedy, don't want to work, feel entitled to everything yet are rich and bored out of their god damn minds. Problem is, neither major corporate-controlled political party knows quite how to exploit them for their own gain yet.
Talkin 'bout your generation! YOUR generation!!
Kristy
07-27-2018, 02:51 PM
I'm 30 god damn six. I just missed that Millennial horseshit by one of your mother's cunt hairs.
jacksmar
07-27-2018, 08:07 PM
They're in Buffalo? Where?
Who gives a fuck about them except for you and your lunatic fringe sites you regurgitate? What will destroy the GOP are the increasingly liberal suburban voters shifting South...
Weren't really quick enough to follow the conversation, were you Nick? I was referring to the riots in Buffalo back in the 60s and that got them absolutely zero.
Ever hear birds of a feather stay together? The millennial's are headed your way. So sayeth the link and the fringe from TIME mag.
https://www.buffalorising.com/2017/06/the-25-cities-where-millennials-are-moving/
Buffalo is ranking high in the category of “cities attracting millennials”, according to a recent article in TIME.
Nick, while I really appreciate the insults, please try to know little more about the subject for discussion within the thread prior to posting.
http://media.cnbc.com/i/CNBC/Sections/News_And_Analysis/_News/_SLIDESHOWS/MostDestructiveRiots/SS_Americas_Most_Destructive_Riots_Detroit_1967.jp g
Probably not anywhere near your affluent suburb...
Seshmeister
07-27-2018, 08:37 PM
I'm 30 god damn six. I just missed that Millennial horseshit by one of your mother's cunt hairs.
Using the golden half plus 7 rule that means you are now the perfect girlfriend for a 58 year old.
Just googled for you and Lance Burton is not married!!!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lance_Burton
Kristy
07-27-2018, 09:34 PM
Ever hear birds of a feather stay together? The millennial's are headed your way. So sayeth the link and the fringe from TIME mag.
Buffalo is ranking high in the category of “cities attracting millennials”, according to a recent article in TIME.
Nick, while I really appreciate the insults, please try to know little more about the subject for discussion within the thread prior to posting.
So, Millennials are moving to cities where nobody wants to work. One thing I'll say about Millennials is they are not like your MTV Madonna masturbation of corporate sell outs for the Rethuglicon war machine of grand American imperialism. Your generation votes Trump, loves fascism, revises history and is getting as F A T as fuck. In fact, your F A T as fuck generation is going to be one fuck of a health care problem and since no Millennials really work whose going to pay for all this shit? I can wait for the day the Chinese move in and kick every one of you F A T fucks to the curb. I'd say "eat a dick" right here but it appears your MTV generation has had more than its share.
Then again...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/26/millennials-will-fattest-generation-record/
jacksmar
07-27-2018, 10:04 PM
So, Millennials are moving to cities where nobody wants to work. One thing I'll say about Millennials is they are not like your MTV Madonna masturbation of corporate sell outs for the Rethuglicon war machine of grand American imperialism. Your generation votes Trump, loves fascism, revises history and is getting as F A T as fuck. In fact, your F A T as fuck generation is going to be one fuck of a health care problem and since no Millennials really work whose going to pay for all this shit? I can wait for the day the Chinese move in and kick every one of you F A T fucks to the curb. I'd say "eat a dick" right here but it appears your MTV generation has had more than its share.
Then again...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/26/millennials-will-fattest-generation-record/
Kristy, you get so many things right and others wrong. I'm on your side with FAT aging populace. They wonder how they got that way and always have some excuse not to workout or exercise. I don't get it. For example, there are 6 gyms within a 9 mile radius. They all have trainers and such but you can go in there after the 9-5 day is over and walk up to any equipment you would like to use. Getting old doesn't mean let yourself get FAT and lazy.
I don't care much for fascism but anyone that voted for BHOle got some. My healthcare was just fine. Still is. The BHOle assholes forced BHOleCare on everyone. BHOle assholes nationalized the home mortgage industry, nationalized two of the three American car companies, and the EPA became a brown shirt, unregulated independent government entity that pointed a shotgun at an old man. The EPA under BHOle knew of a possible blow out in a Colorado mine and covered up the evidence. And BHOles EPA shut down 8 coal mines and knew about the water problem in Flint and did nothing.
Maybe my definition of fascism is different than yours...
Nickdfresh
07-28-2018, 10:52 AM
Weren't really quick enough to follow the conversation, were you Nick? I was referring to the riots in Buffalo back in the 60s and that got them absolutely zero.
Ever hear birds of a feather stay together? The millennial's are headed your way. So sayeth the link and the fringe from TIME mag.
https://www.buffalorising.com/2017/06/the-25-cities-where-millennials-are-moving/
Buffalo is ranking high in the category of “cities attracting millennials”, according to a recent article in TIME.
Nick, while I really appreciate the insults, please try to know little more about the subject for discussion within the thread prior to posting.
http://media.cnbc.com/i/CNBC/Sections/News_And_Analysis/_News/_SLIDESHOWS/MostDestructiveRiots/SS_Americas_Most_Destructive_Riots_Detroit_1967.jp g
Probably not anywhere near your affluent suburb...
I'm not "quick to follow the conversation"? You rambling, autistic fucknut! "Back in the civil war, Florida really sucked!" "During the stone age, Indians rioted near the Niagara River!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc9mlLPjcbk
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