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Seshmeister
08-27-2018, 09:52 AM
https://spectator.us/2018/07/has-mom-been-tested-for-stds-the-manaforts-home-life-and-why-it-matters/


‘Has mom been tested for STDs?’
The Manaforts’ home life and why it matters


Hacked text messages containing several damaging stories about the former campaign manager can now be viewed by anyone with an Internet connection.
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The peculiar unhappiness of Paul Manafort’s family life is described in excruciating detail in 285,000 text messages from an iPhone belonging to one of his daughters. The messages were posted by hackers on the darkweb last year and provided several damaging stories about Manafort. He goes on trial today, charged with evading tax on tens of millions of dollars from his work as a political consultant in Ukraine. Now, the texts have been published in their entirety on the ordinary internet, where they can easily be searched and read. Previously, Manafort had confirmed the authenticity of some of the messages to Politico. They appear to reveal the private face of the man who was Donald Trump’s campaign manager. It is not a flattering picture.

One daughter purportedly tells another that their father regularly made their mother have sex with a “room full of men”. (It appears that the texts are reproduced with the same spelling and punctuation as originally written.)

“dad tapes it all”

“Poor mom”

“Dad is a sex addict”

Yet more bizarrely, it seems both parents shared these painful secrets with their (grown-up) daughters in an attempt to save their marriage.

It is not merely prurient to reproduce these intensely private exchanges. Paul Manafort was no grey functionary fleetingly hired by Trump to run his campaign, as the White House tried to persuade people when he was charged. It always seems wrong to say of Trump that he has “friends,” but Manafort moved in the same social circles, where it appears that group sex, public sex, or just weird sex was not unusual. This may matter because President Trump now faces allegations that a foreign power, Russia, is blackmailing him with sex tapes.

There are different versions of how and when Manafort and Trump first met, but it is a matter of record that Manafort went into business with Trump’s adviser Roger Stone in 1980. Stone, Trump, and Trump’s lawyer Roy Cohn were then fixtures on the bacchanalian Manhattan party scene. Trump spoke about a visit to the notorious nightclub Studio 54. “I would watch well-known supermodels getting screwed on a bench in the middle of the room. There were seven of them and each one was getting screwed by a different guy.” Stone would later be fired from a job working on Bob Dole’s presidential campaign after he – Stone – advertised in a magazine called Local Swing Fever for “exceptional, muscular single men” to have sex with his wife. This foreshadowed Manafort’s own troubles and the stories, none proven, of Trump presiding over strange orgies at Mar-a-Lago or in a Moscow hotel room.

Manafort’s daughters are quoted as saying that the “orgies” their mother was forced to endure took place “in bursts, but in all different countries, she said”.

“which is why she wanted to stop traveling”

“bc it was always part of their visit”

This would undermine Trump’s statement, made after Christopher Steele’s dossier was published, that neither he nor anyone who worked for him would ever be dumb enough to engage in compromising behaviour abroad. He said that he always told his staff: “Be very careful, because in your hotel rooms and no matter where you go you’re going to probably have cameras.”

“Where did he go wrong,” one of the daughters is said to ask about her “fucked up” father.

“mom thinks the power went to his head”

“with Ukraine”

“Right…that it has turned him into a moral-less ethic-less person”

“he is just power crazed…controling. obsessive.”

“He has no moral or legal compass”

The next part of the sisters’ discussion is the basis for one of the damaging stories about Manafort already published using material from the texts.

“You know he has killed people in Ukraine? Knowingly”

“What?! No”

“Don’t fool yourself. That money we have is blood money”

They are apparently talking about the claim that Manafort was standing next to the Ukrainian president, Viktor Yanukovych, egging him on when the order was given to fire on unarmed demonstrators. There is gossip to this effect in Kiev, but no proof. “I don’t advise raising it with him,” one of the daughters’ texts says. “He lies like a rug and gets realllll pissed off. But it’s true. He thinks I don’t remember.”

Manafort is not on trial for this. Instead, he is accused of hiding millions of dollars from the US taxman, the fruits of his very lucrative work in Ukraine. The alleged facts – which he denies – have given rise to a number of terrifying sounding charges: fraud, tax evasion, money laundering, and – a phrase no doubt artfully and deliberately chosen by Robert Mueller – “conspiracy against the United States”.

The judge in the case, T.S. Ellis III, has told Mueller’s prosecutors: “You don’t really care about Mr Manafort’s bank fraud.” All they cared about, the judge went on, was what information Manafort had that might lead to President Trump’s impeachment. President Trump has pointed out – correctly – that all of Manafort’s alleged crimes came before he joined the campaign in 2016.

This is true but Trump’s opponents, including some in the “intelligence community”, say there is a connection between the 2016 race and what happened in Ukraine. Manafort’s millions came from oligarchs in Ukraine loyal to the Kremlin. If he were money laundering and cheating on his taxes, Russian intelligence and ultimately Vladimir Putin would have known. They would have had a powerful hold over him: information that could send him to jail.

This is why some intelligence sources believe that Manafort was deliberately put into the Trump campaign by the Kremlin (taking an unpaid post). It is no coincidence, the sources say, that in a later indictment drawn up by Mueller Manafort is jointly charged with his former translator and business partner in Ukraine, Konstantin Kilimnik. Kilimnik was once an officer in Russia’s military intelligence service, known as the GRU. Trump’s former business partner, Felix Sater, told a Congressional committee: “No such thing as a former Russian spy.”

There is witting cooperation; and unwitting. Even if the Kremlin did seek to manipulate Paul Manafort, it would be a further leap to say he knowingly entered into a conspiracy. It is to get at the truth of this that Mueller’s team has put so much pressure on Manafort. Before he has been convicted, he sits in a Federal jail in Virginia, accused of witness tampering. Still, Manafort has not flipped. He denies any wrongdoing. Perhaps in the end a jury will agree. Maybe he is holding out for a presidential pardon.

The texts may be testimony to the banal truth that everyone saves their worst behaviour for those closest to them. As Hegel once said of Napoleon: “No man is a hero to his valet” – or to his daughters after forcing their mother into deviant sex games. If Manafort had never run Trump’s campaign, perhaps his daughter’s iPhone would never have been hacked. Perhaps the FBI would not have tried to take his fortune away. He must wish he had never met Donald Trump.

Nitro Express
08-27-2018, 08:22 PM
Haha! Why in the hell would we care about Manafort? The guy didn't even work for the Trump campaign that long and the dirt they have on him is his dirt and has nothing to do with the president. More tabloid fluff and oh everything on the inter webs is true.

Seshmeister
08-27-2018, 09:32 PM
It has everything to do with the President.

For a start an incredibly dodgy guy who is in deep fucking trouble with some very powerful Russians who he owes millions to offers to work for Trump for nothing as his campaign manager and gets the gig.

Kristy
08-27-2018, 10:42 PM
Haha! Why in the hell would we care about Manafort? The guy didn't even work for the Trump campaign that long and the dirt they have on him is his dirt and has nothing to do with the president. More tabloid fluff and oh everything on the inter webs is true.

Please don't worry, you fucking contard, the F A T Orange Blunder will make sure that China keeps on making those Nazi flags you love to fly from the back of your shitty pickup truck

Kristy
08-27-2018, 10:44 PM
For a start an incredibly dodgy guy who is in deep fucking trouble with some very powerful Russians who he owes millions to offers to work for Trump for nothing as his campaign manager and gets the gig.

What's so great about this is when this traitorous piece of shit ends up in prison he will be dead in less than 48hrs by Russian mob inmates.

Terry
08-30-2018, 05:48 AM
It has everything to do with the President.

For a start an incredibly dodgy guy who is in deep fucking trouble with some very powerful Russians who he owes millions to offers to work for Trump for nothing as his campaign manager and gets the gig.

Should Trump pardon Manafort - like, say, soon - then I might think Manafort actually has some tangible evidence about Trump, the Russians and collusion (in terms of Manafort being able to prove, or at least credibly say, that Trump knew about the Russian efforts during the 2016 election). Thus far, Manafort has been a sideshow.

Kristy
08-30-2018, 10:24 AM
From some shitty law site:

"Since a Presidential pardon can be of a general nature, providing immunity from any and all crimes for which the person pardoned may have committed in violation of Federal Laws, an acceptance of such pardon is not an admission of guilt to a specific crime. Therefore it could not be used or considered to be an admission of guilt for the specific charges brought by a prosecution by a State."

Manafart is still facing State charges upon which the F A T Orange Blunder has no pardoning power. That corrupt F A T piece of shit is going to prison (Manafart, too). Unless the American tax payer (upon which many of you are not) are willing to pay for his solitary confinement Manafart will most likely be beaten to death within in weeks if not days. I am looking forward to that day.

Nickdfresh
08-30-2018, 09:53 PM
There are also several states' attorney generals conducting their own various investigations of Trump and co...