View Full Version : Mueller Report Has Been Concluded
Kristy
03-22-2019, 07:04 PM
...And no one really gives a shit.
Do you?
Nitro Express
03-22-2019, 07:25 PM
...And no one really gives a shit.
Do you?
I've been calling the Mueller investigation a nothing burger the whole time. So let's say Bernie or Biden wins the next election. Are they going to get investigated? Seems to be the trend in Washington these days. Legally harass your political competition. Especially if they are not part of the political establishment that's in bed with China.
So let's say Bernie or Biden wins the next election. Are they going to get investigated?
What the Hell could they possibly "investigate" about Bernie? We know who he is, because his message has been consistent since he got arrested at civil rights protests in the 1960s. Biden? Yeah, he's done a lot of dirty shit, but there's not really a lot to investigate there either, because Joe's dirty shit is all on the record.
Nickdfresh
03-22-2019, 09:25 PM
LMFAO. If you think the Mueller Report is a 'nothing burger', wait for the giant shit sandwich that the Southern District of NY indictments will be...
Muhuhawhawahwhahwhah....
Kristy
03-22-2019, 11:04 PM
I've been calling the Mueller investigation a nothing burger the whole time. So let's say Bernie or Biden wins the next election. Are they going to get investigated? Seems to be the trend in Washington these days. Legally harass your political competition. Especially if they are not part of the political establishment that's in bed with China.
No you haven't. What you do parrot what Fox News tells you to think. You rarely have any thoughts of your own. A two-year investigation is not a "nothing burger" and I can only surmise Mueller won't indict the F A T Orange man (which is why I don't give a shit about this report otherwise the Feds would have stormed the Oval Office this afternoon) but I do question there has been a lot of money laundering with a lot of senators of Russian blood money and a lot of that blood money was/is being filtered through the F A T Orange man and his family even to this day. Mueller was set to do one job and that was to prove collusion beyond a reasonable doubt, chances are good that he didn't so shitstains like Maddow can finally shut the fuck up about it now. However, that does not make the F A T Orange man innocent of other crimes and Mueller being the "witch hunter" he is will turn over all stones to state prosecutors and indictments on his family (if not the F A T Orange fuck himself) are coming.
Kristy
03-22-2019, 11:08 PM
So if were the F A T Orange man I would be worried - not about Mueller but the aftermath to follow. No agitprop grandstanding and childish Twitter rages are going to save him.
Michael Cohen is going to prison, because of crimes he committed on Cheeto's orders. That alone is proof that Cheeto has committed crimes. Not even all the other lawyers who have worked for Cheeto (and quit, probably because the cheap orange bastard didn't pay them) can dispute that.
Nitro Express
03-23-2019, 05:39 AM
No you haven't. What you do parrot what Fox News tells you to think. You rarely have any thoughts of your own. A two-year investigation is not a "nothing burger" and I can only surmise Mueller won't indict the F A T Orange man (which is why I don't give a shit about this report otherwise the Feds would have stormed the Oval Office this afternoon) but I do question there has been a lot of money laundering with a lot of senators of Russian blood money and a lot of that blood money was/is being filtered through the F A T Orange man and his family even to this day. Mueller was set to do one job and that was to prove collusion beyond a reasonable doubt, chances are good that he didn't so shitstains like Maddow can finally shut the fuck up about it now. However, that does not make the F A T Orange man innocent of other crimes and Mueller being the "witch hunter" he is will turn over all stones to state prosecutors and indictments on his family (if not the F A T Orange fuck himself) are coming.
I don't watch Fox. I can't stand Sean Hannity or that Judge Jeanie bitch. The Senate Intelligence Committee had all the access to information the Justice Department did and they ruled there was no Russian collusion. The whole investigation has been a waste of time and money.
Nitro Express
03-23-2019, 05:41 AM
LMFAO. If you think the Mueller Report is a 'nothing burger', wait for the giant shit sandwich that the Southern District of NY indictments will be...
Muhuhawhawahwhahwhah....
You can indict a ham sandwich. Keep hoping and dreaming.
Nitro Express
03-23-2019, 05:49 AM
What the Hell could they possibly "investigate" about Bernie? We know who he is, because his message has been consistent since he got arrested at civil rights protests in the 1960s. Biden? Yeah, he's done a lot of dirty shit, but there's not really a lot to investigate there either, because Joe's dirty shit is all on the record.
Oh the Justice Department could waste millions of dollars investigating them both for two years and have nothing to show for it. Bernie would be great to finger for Russian collusion because he actually went to the Soviet Union and praised their system of government. If he wins he won't qualify for a very high security clearance because of it. It's all political bullshit. Much like how the Republicans wasted their time going after Clinton for getting a blowjob in the oval office. OOhhh they socked it to Bill. they impeached him and he got disbarred for lying under oath. The Clintons still got rich and have avoided jail so far. Do you honestly think Trump is going to get thrown out of office or go to jail? It's all laughable. I can't wait to see what charges they will go after the next president with. We have already had enough interns and whores but I'm sure there will be more.
Nickdfresh
03-23-2019, 06:57 AM
You can indict a ham sandwich. Keep hoping and dreaming.
Oh the Justice Department could waste millions of dollars investigating them both for two years and have nothing to show for it...
Do you have any idea how many people in Trump's circle have already been indicted? The very least Trump faces after leaving office is a number of federal and state revenue suits over his laundering his inheritance...
Stop being such a bleating sheep...
Seshmeister
03-23-2019, 09:52 AM
Oh the Justice Department could waste millions of dollars investigating them both for two years and have nothing to show for it.
Bullshit the cost of the investigation is $25 million and it's already brought in $48 million in fines.
I'm surprised someone like you who is so about the bottom line didn't know that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaBGt85iT6Q
Kristy
03-23-2019, 01:22 PM
Until that F A T Orange fuck is in jail none of this means anything.
Kristy
03-23-2019, 01:30 PM
You can indict a ham sandwich. Keep hoping and dreaming.
Fox News parrot says what?
twonabomber
03-23-2019, 04:49 PM
Not picking sides, but I love the outrage. I always do.
And yeah, this was on Fox
Matthews' primetime colleague, Rachel Maddow, was visibly emotional throughout her show.
Maddow kicked off by telling her viewers she was reporting live from Tennessee because she felt she needed to interrupt her vacation to address the breaking news. She appeared to be holding back tears.
"A couple of hours ago, or maybe even less than that, I was standing knee-deep in a trout stream in Tennessee," Maddow told her viewers. "But now it's Mueller time! And so I'm in a studio in the great state of Tennessee. The trout are basically just as safe as they were when I was flailing away at them ineffectually this afternoon."
Visibly emotional...holding back tears...lol. Go back outside!
Meanwhile, several personalities on CNN were forced to admit that the announcement of the Mueller report was a positive development for the president.
That one could have been spun either way I guess. Reminds me of the audible sigh heard on NBC on Election Night when they announced Trump was going to win.
Kristy
03-23-2019, 09:15 PM
*ugh* Maddow.
Kristy
03-23-2019, 09:17 PM
Two dipshits into one
https://youtu.be/xi5YYZ9eocU
Rachel used to be one of the smartest news anchors on TV. Then she drank the Hillbot kool-aid and never recovered.
Kristy
03-23-2019, 09:52 PM
And she is a Bernie supporter. What else does one need to know?
She's about as much of a "Bernie supporter" as you are. There are no Bernie supporters currently working for Scumcast/MSDLC. From what I hear, Bernie is the only 2020 candidate who has NOT been invited on Rachel's show within 48 hours of announcing candidacy. She even talked to the bastard who destroyed the Sonics & burns coffee beans for a living.
silverfish
03-24-2019, 03:20 PM
Do you have any idea how many people in Trump's circle have already been indicted?
Last updated March 13, 2019:
Everyone Who’s Been Charged in Investigations Related to the 2016 Election
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/08/21/us/mueller-trump-charges.html
Total of nine with direct connections - some overlap as "Several others have been
charged in investigations that stemmed from Mr. Mueller’s inquiry or other law
enforcement investigations into schemes involving some of the same people."
No text or titles but graphic is:
17143
Kristy
03-24-2019, 04:33 PM
The laundering of Russian blood money to which the F A T Orange man owes a lot of money to. Russians do tend collect. Hardly "collusion" as it relates to treasonous behavior. The F A T Orange man is anything but innocent and he will go to prison just not for this waste of time Mueller horseshit
twonabomber
03-24-2019, 04:39 PM
Can we move on now?
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/24/politics/mueller-report-release/index.html
Mueller did not find Trump or his campaign conspired with Russia, also did not exonerate him on obstruction
The corporate media focus of this whole thing was always on the ridiculous Hillbot myth that Putin somehow "rigged" the election on Cheetos behalf. And anybody who was expecting Mueller to confirm that horseshit deserves to be disappointed.
The 2016 election WAS stolen, but it was stolen, first in the primary by Hillary Clinton & Debbie Scatterbrained Lush, and then in the general by Kristopher K. Kobach's racist voter suppression database, which was used in every state with a governor on the Koch payroll.
Cheeto definitely has done deals with Russia which border on treason, and he's already guilty of at least everything that Cohen is already going to prison for, so this shit isn't over by any means. Though I truly believe they should stop thinking ImOrangement and start thinking 25th Amendment, as that Orange Imbecile is clearly out of his mind.
Sgt Schultz
03-24-2019, 06:32 PM
It's over, losers.
https://i.imgflip.com/1q4qpz.jpg (https://imgflip.com/i/1q4qpz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeYrvkeT974
Kristy
03-24-2019, 06:42 PM
The corporate media focus of this whole thing was always on the ridiculous Hillbot myth that Putin somehow "rigged" the election on Cheetos behalf. And anybody who was expecting Mueller to confirm that horseshit deserves to be disappointed.
The 2016 election WAS stolen, but it was stolen, first in the primary by Hillary Clinton & Debbie Scatterbrained Lush, and then in the general by Kristopher K. Kobach's racist voter suppression database, which was used in every state with a governor on the Koch payroll.
Cheeto definitely has done deals with Russia which border on treason, and he's already guilty of at least everything that Cohen is already going to prison for, so this shit isn't over by any means. Though I truly believe they should stop thinking ImOrangement and start thinking 25th Amendment, as that Orange Imbecile is clearly out of his mind.
All of this is bullshit. Bernie whining.
The F A T Orange fuck is guilty. He was always too stupid and too clueless for collusion but this dumb motherfucker owes a lot of "crooked" people a lot of money. I could give a shit less about Mueller but his tax returns...that's blood in the water.
Nickdfresh
03-24-2019, 09:18 PM
It's over, losers.
https://i.imgflip.com/2p070r.jpg (https://imgflip.com/i/1q4qpz)
Until 2020, fucktard. When he faces multiple counts for fraud and money laundering...
Sgt Schultz
03-25-2019, 09:15 AM
Until 2020, fucktard. When he faces multiple counts for fraud and money laundering...
https://media.makeameme.org/created/still-winning-oztwpi.jpg
jacksmar
03-25-2019, 09:33 AM
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/files/2016/02/al-sharpton-racist.jpg
Said the Canadian
...
jacksmar
03-25-2019, 09:44 AM
So playing in the everybody's leftist wet dream, if you moved to Canada and tried to circumvent the United States presidential election, would you be on Putin's side or Russia's side, or Iran's side?
Didn't BHOle, the holy saint of abortion and gay marriage, interfere in Israel's election? Was he on Russia's side or Irans side?
Didn't Russia try to interfere with the election in Afghanistan or Pakistan one of those stans with the purple fingers and all that? Was Russia on Canada's side?
Man, with all these questions left unanswered were likely to see a bunch of dead mooslims having to take the fall.
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private parts
03-25-2019, 10:26 AM
Until 2020, fucktard. When he faces multiple counts for fraud and money laundering...
Your LLC "Lib Loser Club" just grew by the millions the weekend! But you all just keep on bitching, lying, and whining. The Donald is coming for you.
https://images.dailykos.com/images/657512/story_image/TMW2019-03-27color.png
private parts
03-25-2019, 11:49 AM
Well which is it? Got to be one or the other.
Kristy
03-25-2019, 12:26 PM
LOL the Conservtards and Bernie brats havng it out.
Yeah, please kill each other off, thin the heard of your stupidity and allow for the rest of us to live in peace.
Sgt Schultz
03-25-2019, 01:17 PM
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private parts
03-25-2019, 01:43 PM
LOL the Conservtards and Bernie brats havng it out.
Yeah, please kill each other off, thin the heard of your stupidity and allow for the rest of us to live in peace.
Those people are the Walking Dead of the political world. You cannot kill what is not alive.
Kristy
03-25-2019, 02:34 PM
So you're telling me you cannot kill yourself?
https://i.imgur.com/17MXC1l.png
private parts
03-25-2019, 03:08 PM
Yep. Isn't that fucking AWESOME! WINNING!!
Nitro Express
03-25-2019, 03:22 PM
Bullshit the cost of the investigation is $25 million and it's already brought in $48 million in fines.
I'm surprised someone like you who is so about the bottom line didn't know that.
More like $30 million and two years wasted chasing ghosts when something productive like building infrastructure could have been done.
Nitro Express
03-25-2019, 03:23 PM
Do you have any idea how many people in Trump's circle have already been indicted? The very least Trump faces after leaving office is a number of federal and state revenue suits over his laundering his inheritance...
Stop being such a bleating sheep...
Haha! Keep up the optimism.
Nitro Express
03-25-2019, 03:26 PM
Until that F A T Orange fuck is in jail none of this means anything.
US Presidents don't go to jail. Bill Clinton lied under oath. He lost his law license but him and his wife started a foundation and once his wife got into office they had influence to sell. The Clintons have come out like bandits which they are. Maybe they should be investigated since that seems to be what everyone is into these days.
Nitro Express
03-25-2019, 03:32 PM
Not picking sides, but I love the outrage. I always do.
And yeah, this was on Fox
Visibly emotional...holding back tears...lol. Go back outside!
That one could have been spun either way I guess. Reminds me of the audible sigh heard on NBC on Election Night when they announced Trump was going to win.
The supposedly intelligent Rhodes Scholar actually thought Trump was going to the klink. She teared up. Kind of funny but I think Chris Mathews being grumpy because Trump wasn't being charged with anything was even more funny. It will be interesting to see where these two end up in five to ten years. Is MSNBC even going to be around? I'm sure there will be some kind of left wing echo chamber they can milk.
Nitro Express
03-25-2019, 03:36 PM
https://youtu.be/tFxzohbXLSo
Can we move on now?
Mueller did not find Trump or his campaign conspired with Russia, also did not exonerate him on obstruction
https://youtu.be/tFxzohbXLSo
Pelosi isn't going to waste time on impeachment either. So yeah. Let's fix the US's crumbling infrastructure. We could have started on that two years ago but some people wanted to play Ghostbusters and chase ghosts.
Nitro Express
03-25-2019, 03:39 PM
Yep. Isn't that fucking AWESOME! WINNING!!
Call up Charlie Sheen and let's go party! WINNING!
Nitro Express
03-25-2019, 03:43 PM
Rachel used to be one of the smartest news anchors on TV. Then she drank the Hillbot kool-aid and never recovered.
Just because you go to Oxford on a Rhodes Scholarship doesn't mean you aren't a sell out. She pulls pretty good in the ratings and can afford to live pretty good in NYC these days. Quite a step up from Air America I would say. Rachel thought Hillary was an easy win and she was kissing up. It's a business Ford and Rachel is a business woman. It's all about the $$$$$$$. She plays her niche and really has done quite well with it.
Nitro Express
03-25-2019, 03:45 PM
I kind of like Rachel actually. She moved in and kicked that annoying and pompous Keith Olberman to the curb. The dude ended up on some podcast foaming at the mouth hating Trump hoping that would catapult him back to relevancy. It was funny to watch.
private parts
03-25-2019, 04:18 PM
I kind of like Rachel actually. She moved in and kicked that annoying and pompous Keith Olberman to the curb. The dude ended up on some podcast foaming at the mouth hating Trump hoping that would catapult him back to relevancy. It was funny to watch.
Dude! Bite your tongue. She actually said that the Russians were running our government. That is bat-shit crazy right there.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/23/1829051/-Mic-drop-Tonight-Rachael-Maddow-suggests-that-Putin-is-behind-Trump-Shutdown-of-US-Government?
twonabomber
03-25-2019, 04:52 PM
I kind of like Rachel actually. She moved in and kicked that annoying and pompous Keith Olberman to the curb. The dude ended up on some podcast foaming at the mouth hating Trump hoping that would catapult him back to relevancy. It was funny to watch.
That's what theses ungrateful lib commentators don't realize. Without Trump, they'd be out of a job! Trump is good for business!
Kristy
03-25-2019, 05:17 PM
That's what theses ungrateful lib commentators don't realize. Without Trump, they'd be out of a job! Trump is good for business!
Without America you'd be out of Cleveland.
Do you actually try to follow your own absurd logic?
Kristy
03-25-2019, 05:19 PM
Dude! Bite your tongue. She actually said that the Russians were running our government. That is bat-shit crazy right there.
The F A T Orange man said Obama planted a microphone on him and that he won a PGA Master's Tournament. So who is "batshit crazy" again?
Idiot. You couldn't even make it in Failed Musician School
Seshmeister
03-25-2019, 06:26 PM
Wow I was out at the weekend and only glanced at this stuff and by the reactions thought that Muellers Report had come out or something.
Turns out everyone is getting in a fizz about the press release his guy Barr has released to begin the damage control. If the report truly exonerated Trump they would have released its summary.
Instead what you got wasn't even 4 sentences from the report, you got 4 parts of sentences. The best he could find.
It's like releasing 'Sammy Hagar is amazing' from a sentence Sammy Hagar is amazing in that the twat has spun out a career with so little talent.
The burden of proof on Trump has been set at beyond reasonable doubt not even that he didn't probably do it. Wait and see if you get to see the whole report and what it says if you do...
More like $30 million and two years wasted chasing ghosts when something productive like building infrastructure could have been done.
Cheeto doesn't have a credible infrastructure plan. Just another privatization/corporate welfare scam. We can get real infrastructure in 2020 with a President who knows what infrastructure means, (https://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-infrastructure/) and a Senate who doesn't think Grover Norquist the UNfriendly Monster is the second coming of Christ (or Ayn Rand, more accurately)
jacksmar
03-26-2019, 01:09 AM
https://beautifulcoolwallpapers.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/the-best-top-desktop-horse-wallpapers-35.jpg
That's correct my great-grandson. As the story goes, when the smoke cleared, a horse showed up at the house of Eric Swalwell alive and well.
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Nickdfresh
03-26-2019, 06:50 AM
More like $30 million and two years wasted chasing ghosts when something productive like building infrastructure could have been done.
Okay so we only made $18M?
Nickdfresh
03-26-2019, 06:52 AM
Haha! Keep up the optimism.
Wanna bet?
Nickdfresh
03-26-2019, 06:54 AM
That's what theses ungrateful lib commentators don't realize. Without Trump, they'd be out of a job! Trump is good for business!
Except for his, which pretty much fail...
Nickdfresh
03-26-2019, 07:03 AM
https://beautifulcoolwallpapers.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/the-best-top-desktop-horse-wallpapers-35.jpg
That's correct my great-grandson. As the story goes, when the smoke cleared, a horse showed up at the house of Eric Swalwell alive and well.
...
Your great grandson is a horse? So both his brain and dick are larger than yours?
Sgt Schultz
03-26-2019, 10:57 AM
Your great grandson is a horse? So both his brain and dick are larger than yours?
Nick is obsessed with penis and butthole.
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/f8/f8a057a6a62ae9e21e29e2b96c8d2f1712560637100b240ad0 1f00201abf5de1.jpg
Nitro Express
03-26-2019, 12:06 PM
Cheeto doesn't have a credible infrastructure plan. Just another privatization/corporate welfare scam. We can get real infrastructure in 2020 with a President who knows what infrastructure means, (https://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-infrastructure/) and a Senate who doesn't think Grover Norquist the UNfriendly Monster is the second coming of Christ (or Ayn Rand, more accurately)
?????? We currently have a president who made a living by building buildings and developing real estate. I would say he understands more about infrastructure than most professional politicians do.
Putting his name on failed casinos which launder Russian mob money really has nothing to do with infrastructure.
https://i.imgur.com/xEiKW2N.png
Nitro Express
03-26-2019, 12:14 PM
That's what theses ungrateful lib commentators don't realize. Without Trump, they'd be out of a job! Trump is good for business!
I actually heard Rush Limbaugh say he didn't hate Obama. Obama in office was great for business. It's all about niche marketing. In the case of Rush and Rachel it's choose your echo chamber. It's a business. I mean you can listen to Rush or Rachel and get a biased perspective of what's going on. It's about as real as a reality show or sitcom. Or you can get in your car and road trip the country and talk to people and see the reality which never matches what the talking heads or radio personalities are saying. It's showbiz. Anything dealing with politics is pretty much bullshit. It's all about selling an illusion. Mostly about telling a isolated group of people what they want to hear. Blaming the problems you didn't fix on someone else and saying a lot about nothing. As long as the people in your district keep voting you in and you avoid jail for your crimes that's all politicians really care about.
Nitro Express
03-26-2019, 12:21 PM
Putting his name on failed casinos which launder Russian mob money really has nothing to do with infrastructure.
Haha Yeah but building golf courses and taking over ice skating rinks that the city of New York couldn't get done right and getting it right does. Look the guy has been investigated for two years not only by the Justice Department but by the Senate Judiciary Committee. They didn't find any collusion. All I've heard on television is how the guy was going to get impeached or thrown in jail. Nonstop for two years plus. Time to find something else to do news stories on.
Nitro Express
03-26-2019, 12:23 PM
https://youtu.be/5HMdZqf62H4
Ok. How about a new twist. Mueller was running a counter coup. It all was a set up. Haha! Maybe we will see Mueller and Trump golfing together now. Haha!
Nitro Express
03-26-2019, 12:31 PM
Oh the report will be released after it's been redacted. It's how the government works folks. Government investigations are worth less than cow dung. At least cow dung can be used for fertilizer. It's been fun watching everyone chase ghosts for two years while more cement falls from the bridges and rebar gets more rusty.
Nitro Express
03-26-2019, 12:34 PM
Dude! Bite your tongue. She actually said that the Russians were running our government. That is bat-shit crazy right there.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/23/1829051/-Mic-drop-Tonight-Rachael-Maddow-suggests-that-Putin-is-behind-Trump-Shutdown-of-US-Government?
Haha! She's crazy like a fox. She's pulling a pretty big paycheck. She probably was crying because the gravy train was ending and she has to find something else to hype.
Nitro Express
03-26-2019, 12:36 PM
I hope the Donald Trump and George Conway show keeps going. That's been pretty entertaining. KellyAnn is spending all her time over at the White House and George sounds like he needs his dick drained.
private parts
03-26-2019, 02:37 PM
You couldn't even make it in Failed Musician School
I graduated with high honors HO!
William Barr Reads “Moby-Dick,” Finds No Evidence of Whales
By Andy Borowitz
11:15 A.M.
WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/william-barr-reads-moby-dick-finds-no-evidence-of-whales?utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Borowitz_032619&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bd672883f92a41245dd6fd1&user_id=27161810&esrc=&utm_term=TNY_Borowitz))—Attorney General William Barr has just read the classic American novel “Moby-Dick,” by Herman Melville, and found that the book contains “no evidence whatsoever of whales,” Barr stated on Tuesday.
The Attorney General issued his statement on the absence of whales in the Melville classic in a two-paragraph book report released to the news media.
“Those who read ‘Moby-Dick’ looking for whales will be sorely disappointed,” Barr wrote. “There are no whales here.”
To illustrate his point, Barr quoted the book’s first sentence: “Call me Ishmael.”
“As you can clearly see, that sentence does not have a whale in it,” Barr wrote.
The Attorney General indicated that he hoped his report would put an end to “reckless speculation” about the existence of whales in “Moby-Dick.” “It’s time to move on,” he wrote.
Barr disclosed that, after waiting years to read “Moby-Dick,” he was able to finish reading it in approximately fifteen minutes.
Andy Borowitz is a Times best-selling author and a comedian who has written for The New Yorker since 1998. He writes The Borowitz Report, a satirical column on the news.
So apparently the House voted unanimously to release the entire Mueller Report. Even His Royal Supreme Orangeness says to release it (not that he's read it himself, of course). But the release of the report has been blocked in the Senate by one Bitch McTurtle.
What is Yurtle afraid of? Is there something in there that makes him look as guilty as Cheeto??
https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.uM4d4GdXTXB8YgmJawjE3wHaFw&pid=Api&P=0&w=300&h=300
Seshmeister
03-26-2019, 08:53 PM
It's a blatant tactic.
Release their version of what the report says which will become what the report is in the minds of the casual public.
Then delay it as long as possible so if and when it ever is released it's old news.
There is this really weird new shit going on whereby news facts only last a couple of days after that who cares?
Here are some undisputed facts not opinions without even knowing what is in the Mueller report.
1) Trump would have been indicted for the hush money paid to Daniels if he wasn't president.
2) A hostile government attacked the election on Trumps behalf
3) Trump knew about it, encouraged it on TV, he welcomed it and lied about it and then tried to cover it up with more lies.
4) Trump lied about not having dealings with Russia when his $300 million tower there was still on the table during the election campaign - the biggest deal he would have ever made.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-Xw0_2eMJg
Nickdfresh
03-26-2019, 09:46 PM
Nick is obsessed with penis and butthole.
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/f8/f8a057a6a62ae9e21e29e2b96c8d2f1712560637100b240ad0 1f00201abf5de1.jpg
And your mom...
Autistic picture tard...
Nickdfresh
03-26-2019, 09:49 PM
I actually heard Rush Limbaugh say he didn't hate Obama.....
Why in fuck would you bother to listen to that deaf, pedo douche? I mean fuck, are there no flies fucking in Wyoming this time of year?
Kristy
03-26-2019, 10:33 PM
The GOP wants to finally gut healthcare. I'm all for it knowing a lot of F A T Rethuglicons are soon going to die.
ZahZoo
03-27-2019, 06:46 AM
So apparently the House voted unanimously to release the entire Mueller Report. Even His Royal Supreme Orangeness says to release it (not that he's read it himself, of course). But the release of the report has been blocked in the Senate by one Bitch McTurtle.
What is Yurtle afraid of? Is there something in there that makes him look as guilty as Cheeto??
https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.uM4d4GdXTXB8YgmJawjE3wHaFw&pid=Api&P=0&w=300&h=300
The only thing blocking the full release of the Mueller report is a number of laws and regulations that govern the Dept of Justice... The vote to release it in the House is meaningless... POTUS can't authorize the release through any sort of executive powers... The Senate isn't blocking anything...
The basis of law on this matter are quite clear and the implications of violating those laws or attempting to selectively avoid them with some nonsense political whim regarding this report won't happen... For one, the Congress of the US won't pass legislation to over-ride the current laws preventing full disclosure... If challenged in the Judicial system... there's far too much precedent to uphold the current laws restricting the release of certain portions of the report...
It's sad that there's so little understanding of the basic tenants of law... not just here on this site... but apparently in DC where the laws were made...
Maybe Cheeto's afraid that his MAGAtt fanboys might find out he got cucked by Michael Bolton?
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-26-at-3.17.12-PM.png
You might remember that Cohen mentioned Calamari (aka Matty the Squid) a few times in his testimony before Congress, so apparently this tool knows all kinds of shit about the Orange Imbecile.
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/view-of-former-model-melania-knauss-and-her-boyfriend-real-estate-picture-id700336854?s=612x612
Yeah, that's right you miserable Orange fuck. I banged this wife too. Smile for the cameras, Donnie!
Sgt Schultz
03-27-2019, 10:51 AM
Yeah, that's right you miserable Orange fuck. I banged this wife too. Smile for the cameras, Donnie!
https://i.redd.it/xdn5gbo7tf5z.png
private parts
03-27-2019, 11:36 AM
It's a blatant tactic.
Release their version of what the report says which will become what the report is in the minds of the casual public.
Then delay it as long as possible so if and when it ever is released it's old news.
There is this really weird new shit going on whereby news facts only last a couple of days after that who cares?
Here are some undisputed facts not opinions without even knowing what is in the Mueller report.
1) Trump would have been indicted for the hush money paid to Daniels if he wasn't president.
2) A hostile government attacked the election on Trumps behalf
3) Trump knew about it, encouraged it on TV, he welcomed it and lied about it and then tried to cover it up with more lies.
4) Trump lied about not having dealings with Russia when his $300 million tower there was still on the table during the election campaign - the biggest deal he would have ever made.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-Xw0_2eMJg
Those aren't facts. Those are made up media B.S that you believe.
Not against the law to pay off a porn star to keep her dick sucker shut.
Russians have never cared who was president. They have attacked our democracy constantly. Along with China, the N. Koreans, and Iran. All who have hacked and spied on us for years.
Trump sarcastically asked the Russians to find Hillary's emails since no one in our intelligence agencies could find the missing 30,000. Good Lord- can't believe you don't see the sarcasm there.
Not sure about no. 4. But I don't give a shit either.
https://www.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/73/2019/03/26/223226_600.jpg
Nitro Express
03-27-2019, 08:04 PM
Let's move on folks. Let's talk about how Trump is a sock puppet for Israel and why Jared Kushner is really the man running the White House while his lame father in law is just a front. Let's talk about how the massad is keeping Trump in office because Israel is getting everything they want from him.
So they are colluding with corrupt Russian bastards after all. Just not the ones in Moscow this time.
Sgt Schultz
03-28-2019, 01:07 PM
So they are colluding with corrupt Russian bastards after all. Just not the ones in Moscow this time.
https://pics.me.me/m-pretty-sure-youre-s-retarded-but-hang-on-let-me-26974756.png
Nickdfresh
03-28-2019, 08:18 PM
So playing in the everybody's leftist wet dream, if you moved to Canada and tried to circumvent the United States presidential election, would you be on Putin's side or Russia's side, or Iran's side?
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Well since Trump handed Syria to both, who the fuck knows the difference?
Nickdfresh
03-28-2019, 08:20 PM
https://i.redd.it/xdn5gbo7tf5z.png
It's funny when adult autistic fuckstumps that can barely string together five words and only link memes like a 13 year old girl on Facebook call out "retards". And make sure you stay more than 600' away from schools, pedo...
Nickdfresh
03-28-2019, 08:21 PM
Nick is obsessed with penis and butthole.
https://www.brandchannel.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/subway-jared-fogle-sub-860.jpg
Hey, anyone need a free babysitter?
Meme spamming fucktard says what?
Sure, kid diddler...
Nickdfresh
03-31-2019, 12:14 PM
Let's move on folks. Let's talk about how Trump is a sock puppet for Israel and why Jared Kushner is really the man running the White House while his lame father in law is just a front. Let's talk about how the massad is keeping Trump in office because Israel is getting everything they want from him.
The guy who cries "nothing burger" and posts with repeated ignorance of facts and "never watches Fox News" despite repeating their talking points verbatim says what? With all due respect, fuck off...
Here's what you said about a "nothing burger" investigation (http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?72369-quot-Benghazi-Panel-quot-Reveals-CIA-Asset-Then-Tries-To-Cover-It-Up!) in 2015:
Oh come on. You know Hillbilly let it all happen on purpose because she was running weapons from Libya to the rebels in Syria because she wanted to oust Asaad so her buddies in Qatar could run their gas pipeline through. Then this would give Putin competition to the lucrative European gas market and Putin loses his naval port on the Med as well. You know it's true. I read it on the internet. The US ambassador threatened to expose what was going on so no protection for you. No money for security? Please.
You're such a fucking dimwitted cliche hypowit, it's not even funny anymore....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4JplJIFxkk
https://i.imgur.com/P8DZhal.png
Sgt Schultz
04-14-2019, 04:38 PM
[QUOTE=Nickdfresh;1939221]Meme spamming fucktard says what?
https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/flat1000x1000075f.u4.jpg
Nickdfresh
04-14-2019, 04:54 PM
https://i.imgur.com/zSVMn2D.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/65cVZ4U.png
Seshmeister
04-18-2019, 12:26 PM
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/04/william-barr-robert-mueller-report-address.html
William Barr Has Failed America
His press conference was appalling even by the Trump administration’s standard.
By MARK JOSEPH STERN
https://compote.slate.com/images/c0d1ecb9-306d-4a78-a24f-c9abbf100cbd.jpeg?width=780&height=520&rect=3283x2189&offset=0x0
Observers of the Justice Department will spend the rest of our lives talking about Attorney General William Barr’s jaw-dropping and horrifically inappropriate address on Thursday morning, which attempted to spin special counsel Robert Mueller’s report in Donald Trump’s favor—before the public has seen it. In just a few minutes, Barr managed to throw Mueller under the bus, mount a Fox News–style defense of Trump, and further obscure his dubious decision to absolve the president of obstruction of justice. It is hard to convey just how appalling Barr’s performance was, and it will take a while to assess the extent of the damage Barr just inflicted on the Department of Justice and the office of the attorney general. But let me take a first crack: This was Pravda-style propaganda, pure and simple, a grotesque display of spineless fealty to the president, and a confirmation that Barr views the Mueller investigation as fundamentally illegitimate.
The first half of Barr’s address was essentially a reiteration of his earlier summary of Mueller’s report, which the attorney general helpfully summed up in Trump’s two favorite words: no collusion. Mueller, Barr explained, found that the Russian government did unlawfully attempt to influence the 2016 election; both Russian military officials and the Internet Research Agency, a troll farm affiliated with the Russian government, meddled in the race. But the special counsel “found no evidence that any Americans—including anyone associated with the Trump campaign—conspired or coordinated with the Russian government or the IRA in carrying out this illegal scheme.”
We do not yet know if Barr used this oddly narrow language to conceal attempts by the Trump campaign to collude with Russian agents, or to disseminate stolen material; to obscure possible coordination with Russian nationals not formally connected to the Russian government; or to obfuscate an extremely cramped definition of conspiracy and collusion. The report itself should help us understand just how candid or dishonest, this segment of Barr’s address was. And hopefully, Barr did not redact portions of the report that might clear up any sleights of hand the attorney general may have performed to gloss over legally troubling conduct by the president and his associates.
What we do know is that the president’s national security adviser, Michael Flynn, spoke with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak the same day that President Barack Obama issued retaliatory measures in response to Russia’s interference in the 2016 election. And that Mueller later prosecuted Flynn for lying to FBI agents about his contacts with Russian officials. And that Flynn pleaded guilty to this felony charge and cooperated with the probe. And then Trump asked then–FBI Director James Comey to end the investigation into Flynn.
We also know that Trump’s former lawyer, Michael Cohen, pleaded guilty to campaign finance violations committed in an effort to cover up Trump’s extramarital affair—a crime allegedly committed at the president’s direction, and one that was prosecuted by the Southern District of New York after the special counsel’s office provided it with information about Cohen. And we know that Cohen pleaded guilty to lying to Congress about the Trump Organization’s attempts to build a new property in Moscow during the presidential campaign. Cohen, in fact, admitted to this crime as part of a plea deal with Mueller.
This information is important to keep in mind when considering the second half of Barr’s address, pertaining to obstruction of justice. Barr once again reiterated that he does not believe in Mueller’s legal theory of obstruction. He didn’t elaborate, but his views here are well-known: Barr believes obstruction of an investigation cannot be committed unless there is an underlying crime (which is wrong) and that the president cannot commit obstruction by exercising his executive powers, even if done with a corrupt motive (which is dubious). But leave that aside for now. What’s truly astonishing is that after briefly attempting to exculpate Trump of obstruction, Barr launched into a vigorous and gratuitous defense of the president’s highly unusual and suspect behavior throughout the probe:
In assessing the President’s actions discussed in the report, it is important to bear in mind the context. President Trump faced an unprecedented situation. As he entered into office, and sought to perform his responsibilities as President, federal agents and prosecutors were scrutinizing his conduct before and after taking office, and the conduct of some of his associates. At the same time, there was relentless speculation in the news media about the President’s personal culpability. Yet, as he said from the beginning, there was in fact no collusion. And as the Special Counsel’s report acknowledges, there is substantial evidence to show that the President was frustrated and angered by a sincere belief that the investigation was undermining his presidency, propelled by his political opponents, and fueled by illegal leaks. Nonetheless, the White House fully cooperated with the Special Counsel’s investigation, providing unfettered access to campaign and White House documents, directing senior aides to testify freely, and asserting no privilege claims. And at the same time, the President took no act that in fact deprived the Special Counsel of the documents and witnesses necessary to complete his investigation. Apart from whether the acts were obstructive, this evidence of non-corrupt motives weighs heavily against any allegation that the President had a corrupt intent to obstruct the investigation
Barr’s message here is simple: Trump is the real victim. The victim of the media and leaks. The victim of excess scrutiny and oversight. The victim of what Barr appears to believe was an overly intrusive investigation conducted by overzealous “federal agents and prosecutors.” All of Trump’s lying, his interference, his efforts to publicly discredit the probe, his public assault on Mueller—all of it is excusable, Barr implied, because the probe found “no collusion.” Indeed, Barr writes off Trump’s campaign against the investigation as a perfectly understandable effort to maintain his innocence. His acts were not obstructionary; they were noble.
That’s not legal analysis, since righteous anger is not an actual defense against obstruction. It’s political spin. It’s propaganda. It’s running interference for the president who appointed Barr to do precisely this—to exonerate him in public before Americans can read Mueller’s report. It was a galling performance for an audience of one, the president. And Trump must be pleased. In fact, the moment the presser ended, the president posted a Game of Thrones–themed tweet telling the “haters and the radical left Democrats” that it was “Game Over.” Barr’s performance and Trump’s tweet seemed almost coordinated. It is an extraordinary embarrassment for DOJ.
The attorney general did what Trump hired him to do. In the process, he has disgraced his office in ways we are only beginning to understand. Barr joined the DOJ too late to quash the investigation. But he is doing his best to shield the Trump from its findings. Thursday morning will be remembered as one of the most shameful chapters in the history of the Department of Justice.
Seshmeister
04-18-2019, 12:34 PM
Barr once again reiterated that he does not believe in Mueller’s legal theory of obstruction. He didn’t elaborate, but his views here are well-known: Barr believes obstruction of an investigation cannot be committed unless there is an underlying crime (which is wrong)
It's crazy this is being banded about by Barr and Guliani - fucking Martha Stewart must be wondering how she ended up in prison.
It's basic law - if the cops investigate you but you obstruct and destroy the evidence of your crime so that they can't prosecute you, they will prosecute you for the obstruction.
https://psmag.com/social-justice/barry-bonds-martha-stewart-and-donald-trump-obstructing-what
If you want a "searchable" copy of today's "Mueller Lite" report, click here. (https://www.dropbox.com/s/mh9cis2eqbbk50s/Mueller%20report.docx?dl=0)
It's well over 400 pages so I haven't even tried to read into it yet, but might as well grab a copy before Cheeto has it purged from the internet.
Now if somebody would only leak the un-redacted version.......
Barr was the same guy who helped Poppy Bush & his friends get away with the treasonous Iran/Contra scam, so he's used to plotting right wing coverups. And the guy with the beard who stood behind Barr at his press conference this morning was the former leader of Sarah Palin's "Truth Squad", which kept the details of her "Troopergate" scandal away from her 2008 campaign with Grandpa McCain. And as Thom Hartmann mentioned on the radio, Rosenstein looked like he was being held hostage during that press conference. Wonder what sort of blackmail material they have on him?
Nitro Express
04-18-2019, 01:32 PM
Barr was the same guy who helped Poppy Bush & his friends get away with the treasonous Iran/Contra scam, so he's used to plotting right wing coverups. And the guy with the beard who stood behind Barr at his press conference this morning was the former leader of Sarah Palin's "Truth Squad", which kept the details of her "Troopergate" scandal away from her 2008 campaign with Grandpa McCain. And as Thom Hartmann mentioned on the radio, Rosenstein looked like he was being held hostage during that press conference. Wonder what sort of blackmail material they have on him?
Ha! Ha! With Bolton in the White House and Trump getting his nuts sucked by Bibi the military industrial complex might just want to stick with Trump. We aren’t going to pull out of the Middle East and more war is on the horizon. Also none of these government investigations really accomplish anything. Nobody substantial ever goes to jail and nothing in the government changes.
Nitro Express
04-18-2019, 01:34 PM
As long as those in power continue to keep this country divided they can keep doing what they want.
Nitro Express
04-18-2019, 01:37 PM
If you want a "searchable" copy of today's "Mueller Lite" report, click here. (https://www.dropbox.com/s/mh9cis2eqbbk50s/Mueller%20report.docx?dl=0)
It's well over 400 pages so I haven't even tried to read into it yet, but might as well grab a copy before Cheeto has it purged from the internet.
Now if somebody would only leak the un-redacted version.......
So let’s say you have the full report. What are you going to accomplish by doing so? Are you some kind of Jedi master or something?
Nitro Express
04-18-2019, 01:41 PM
The guy who cries "nothing burger" and posts with repeated ignorance of facts and "never watches Fox News" despite repeating their talking points verbatim says what? With all due respect, fuck off...
Here's what you said about a "nothing burger" investigation (http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?72369-quot-Benghazi-Panel-quot-Reveals-CIA-Asset-Then-Tries-To-Cover-It-Up!) in 2015:
You're such a fucking dimwitted cliche hypowit, it's not even funny anymore....
Awww someone is upset nothing ever happened from the report.
private parts
04-18-2019, 02:05 PM
The President can fire ANYONE at ANYTIME for ANY REASON dipshits. Just ask Comey. bawahahahah!!
HAPPY NO OBSTRUCTION DAY BITCHES!
Cheeto & Barr are liars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gVg3ttSQzg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPIH7_isWis
Seshmeister
04-18-2019, 04:23 PM
The President can fire ANYONE at ANYTIME for ANY REASON dipshits. Just ask Comey. bawahahahah!!
HAPPY NO OBSTRUCTION DAY BITCHES!
This is the weird American tribal politics thing.
Your team didn't just score a touchdown, more like if your crooked landlord was screwing your neighbors. That's not a win for you.
private parts
04-18-2019, 04:52 PM
I guess Mueller must be ALMOST part of my tribe since he found NO COLLUSION and just couldn't make up his mind on obstruction. You do realize he would have nailed Trump if he found anything.
(Spikes Football)
I guess Mueller must be ALMOST part of my tribe since he found NO COLLUSION and just couldn't make up his mind on obstruction. You do realize he would have nailed Trump if he found anything.
(Spikes Football)
No, what it actually means is that Mueller believes the "conventional wisdom" in Washington DC, that you cannot indict a sitting President, even when he's an Orange Imbecile & a criminal fraud. It's highly questionable whether that's actually the law or not, but it's what Mueller went with, and he certainly has enough experience in this area to know what he's doing.
That is why Mueller said in his report that such conclusions should be left up to Congress. Not to this phony bloated fuck of a criminal "Attorney General". What Mueller was suggesting was going forward with the Impeachment process.
Of course Mueller can't compel Jellyfish Pelosi to actually go through with it. And of course, if she did, there's still no guarantee that the Senate would remove his bloated Orange ass (unless enough Republican senators were convinced they had to throw Cheeto under the bus to save their own re-elections in 2020)
So it's not an exoneration by any means. Regardless of how Barr, his magic Sharpies, and right wing media are trying to spin it.
Or to continue with the sports analogies, it's not even a Safety, let alone a Touchdown.
Seshmeister
04-18-2019, 07:05 PM
I guess Mueller must be ALMOST part of my tribe since he found NO COLLUSION and just couldn't make up his mind on obstruction. You do realize he would have nailed Trump if he found anything.
(Spikes Football)
You aren't paying attention closely.
What is collusion other than a word that Trump came up with?
Collusion isn't a crime.
He didn't 'nail' trump because he thought that his role was to gather evidence for the attorney general or congress to decide on. In the meantime Trump appointed an Attorney General who had been arguing in public that presidents should be above the law.
Is that really what you want? Even if insanely you want to live in a banana republic what happens when the other side get in?
Seshmeister
04-18-2019, 07:12 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4cdiBhWkAc1RNL.jpg:large
Seshmeister
04-18-2019, 08:25 PM
In summary the Mueller report says everything that the Trump family has been accused of by reputable journalists about Russia interfering on their behalf in the election is true as is all the lying about it afterwards and attempts to cover it up that led to Flynn and Manafort going to jail. It then says that because he is president it can't make a recommendation to prosecute as that would have to be a decision by Congress until he is no longer president.
The tone of it is really really different from the way Barr spun it - it comes across like the author(s) are appalled by the actions of the administration.
Nitro Express
04-18-2019, 09:58 PM
So the US Senate Judiciary Committee that had the same access to information the Justice Department had ruled President Trump was innocent and the Department of Justice rules President Trump innocent but the experts here at the David Lee Roth Army School of Law say President Trump is guilty.
Sound the alarm folks. Get on the hotline and send up the bat signal. Somebody needs to save America!
Nitro Express
04-18-2019, 10:04 PM
No, what it actually means is that Mueller believes the "conventional wisdom" in Washington DC, that you cannot indict a sitting President, even when he's an Orange Imbecile & a criminal fraud. It's highly questionable whether that's actually the law or not, but it's what Mueller went with, and he certainly has enough experience in this area to know what he's doing.
That is why Mueller said in his report that such conclusions should be left up to Congress. Not to this phony bloated fuck of a criminal "Attorney General". What Mueller was suggesting was going forward with the Impeachment process.
Of course Mueller can't compel Jellyfish Pelosi to actually go through with it. And of course, if she did, there's still no guarantee that the Senate would remove his bloated Orange ass (unless enough Republican senators were convinced they had to throw Cheeto under the bus to save their own re-elections in 2020)
So it's not an exoneration by any means. Regardless of how Barr, his magic Sharpies, and right wing media are trying to spin it.
Or to continue with the sports analogies, it's not even a Safety, let alone a Touchdown.
Impeachment is a waste of time and the Dems aren't going to gain anything in the election going that route. Best to put it all behind and focus on winning 2020. Pelosi has been house speaker twice. She's been around the block a few times. The young hot heads in the Democrat party would be wise to take some advice from people who have been there and have played the game. A unified party is stronger than one that is arguing amongst itself.
Seshmeister
04-18-2019, 10:09 PM
So the US Senate Judiciary Committee that had the same access to information the Justice Department had ruled President Trump was innocent and the Department of Justice rules President Trump innocent but the experts here at the David Lee Roth Army School of Law say President Trump is guilty.
Sound the alarm folks. Get on the hotline and send up the bat signal. Somebody needs to save America!
Are you being deliberately silly with the use of the word 'innocent'?
There is a huge difference between being 'innocent' and 'we can't convict him without a partisan Republican senate agreeing to it'.
Somewhere down the line I think one or more of his kids/son in law will end up in jail not for the Russia election thing but for money laundering.
Just a reminder of who this piece of shit so-called "Attorney General" is, and how he covered up for another treasonous felon who called himself "President"...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFuTu4bhDI8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO1QeWOrWXc
Nickdfresh
04-19-2019, 06:57 AM
Awww someone is upset nothing ever happened from the report.
I guess we'll have to wait for the 14 other spinoff investigations, won't we Benghazi Express? In anycase, how many convictions did your conspiracy shits produce?
ZahZoo
04-19-2019, 08:45 AM
I believe there's a fundamental element at the core of this in where things sit at the moment...
The Russians were clearly engaged in disrupting the 2016 election. That's on them and no one is disputing the Russian's role and attempts. Mueller's team found not only was there no conspiracy or collusion by Trump and the Trump campaign team, but no other American citizen as well. That's notable... No evidence an American engaged in a conspiracy/crime with the Russians. This was the core of the investigation.
How can one obstruct justice in the absence of evidence of a crime having been committed by any American?
Justice was dished out to the Russians indicted. No one obstructed that. Justice was dished out to those who lied to the FBI and those who had other crimes discovered unrelated to the 2016 election and Trump. No one obstructed any of that...
private parts
04-19-2019, 10:46 AM
Somewhere down the line I think one or more of his kids/son in law will end up in jail not for the Russia election thing but for money laundering.
Better call NYT and CNN with your scoop. I'm sure they'll run with it.
private parts
04-19-2019, 10:50 AM
So the US Senate Judiciary Committee that had the same access to information the Justice Department had ruled President Trump was innocent and the Department of Justice rules President Trump innocent but the experts here at the David Lee Roth Army School of Law say President Trump is guilty.
Sound the alarm folks. Get on the hotline and send up the bat signal. Somebody needs to save America!
Looks like Schiff, Nadler and the rest of them went to DLRA School of Law too.
Seshmeister
04-19-2019, 11:26 AM
The Russians were clearly engaged in disrupting the 2016 election. That's on them and no one is disputing the Russian's role and attempts. Mueller's team found not only was there no conspiracy or collusion by Trump and the Trump campaign team, but no other American citizen as well. That's notable... No evidence an American engaged in a conspiracy/crime with the Russians. This was the core of the investigation.
Like a lot of people you are confusing the 'Barr version' with what the report says -
Attorney General William Barr's summary of special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election didn't find sufficient evidence to charge anyone involved in President Donald Trump's 2016 campaign with conspiracy to influence the election.
Barr's letter to Congress said Mueller, who has been investigating Russian interference since May of 2017, identified two separate Russian-sponsored attempts to interfere in the election.
The letter said that neither the "Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in these efforts, despite multiple offers from the Russian-affiliated officials to assist the Trump campaign."
Mueller's probe into Russian election interference and possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia indicted three Russian companies and 34 people, including eight Americans affiliated with the Trump campaign or administration.
There are now more than 101 known points of contact between the Trump campaign and Russian-government linked people or entities, including 23 meetings or calls.
Sixteen Trump campaign officials are known to have had direct contact with a Russian government official or a Russian-linked operative, and at least an additional nine campaign officials were aware of these contacts.
Trump campaign officials had meetings, calls, and digital correspondence with high-level Russian government officials, billionaires linked to Putin, an accused Russian spy, and hackers enlisted by Russian intelligence to meddle in the 2016 elections.
Here is a timeline of the Trump campaign's known contacts with Russia, compiled with the help of resources from the Moscow Project and the Washington Post.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-campaign-russia-government-contact-timeline-2018-7?r=US&IR=T
https://i.imgur.com/B31sbv6.png
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlh8Coth8to
private parts
04-19-2019, 04:09 PM
Like a lot of people you are confusing the 'Barr version' with what the report says -
Attorney General William Barr's summary of special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election didn't find sufficient evidence to charge anyone involved in President Donald Trump's 2016 campaign with conspiracy to influence the election.
Barr's letter to Congress said Mueller, who has been investigating Russian interference since May of 2017, identified two separate Russian-sponsored attempts to interfere in the election.
The letter said that neither the "Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in these efforts, despite multiple offers from the Russian-affiliated officials to assist the Trump campaign."
Mueller's probe into Russian election interference and possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia indicted three Russian companies and 34 people, including eight Americans affiliated with the Trump campaign or administration.
There are now more than 101 known points of contact between the Trump campaign and Russian-government linked people or entities, including 23 meetings or calls.
Sixteen Trump campaign officials are known to have had direct contact with a Russian government official or a Russian-linked operative, and at least an additional nine campaign officials were aware of these contacts.
Trump campaign officials had meetings, calls, and digital correspondence with high-level Russian government officials, billionaires linked to Putin, an accused Russian spy, and hackers enlisted by Russian intelligence to meddle in the 2016 elections.
Here is a timeline of the Trump campaign's known contacts with Russia, compiled with the help of resources from the Moscow Project and the Washington Post.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-campaign-russia-government-contact-timeline-2018-7?r=US&IR=T
From your WaPo link:
The report concluded that even though Russia sought to advance its interests by interfering in the 2016 election — which the Trump campaign believed they would benefit from — "the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."
What are you not understanding? Is it against the law to speak to a Russian now?
Seshmeister
04-19-2019, 09:16 PM
https://youtu.be/8EZFBB-MntE
5 hours later Russia hacked the DNC.
Seshmeister
04-19-2019, 09:36 PM
The devil is in the detail in this and a bunch of it is redacted still but for example -
Take Manafort’s meetings with Konstantin Kilimnik, a Russian political consultant with a history of connections to the GRU intelligence agency. The FBI believed had links to the Kremlin, a view shared by Manafort’s right-hand man Gates. “Gates suspected that Kilimnik was a ‘spy,’ a view that he shared with Manafort,” Mueller writes.
Yet despite Gates’s suspicions, Manafort repeatedly met with Kilimnik, worked with him to develop a pro-Russian Ukraine policy that Trump could implement if elected, and regularly shared polling data with him:
From the report
On August 2, 2016, Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort met in New York City with his long-time business associate Konstantin Kilimnik, who the FBI assesses to have ties to Russian intelligence. Kilimnik requested the meeting to deliver in person a peace plan for Ukraine that Manafort acknowledged to the Special Counsel’s Office was a “backdoor” way for Russia to control part of eastern Ukraine; both men believed the plan would require candidate Trump’s assent to succeed (were he to be elected President).
They also discussed the status of the Trump Campaign and Manafort’s strategy for winning Democratic votes in Midwestern states. Months before that meeting, Manafort had caused internal polling data to be shared with Kilimnik, and the sharing continued for some period of time after their August meeting.
Seshmeister
04-19-2019, 09:44 PM
Mob boss president - his lawyers don't take notes???
In one Oval Office meeting, Trump challenged his note-taking practices; according to the report, Trump was angry that McGahn had told federal investigators he directed McGahn to have Mueller removed.
McGahn recounted Trump telling him: “Lawyers don’t take notes. I never had a lawyer who took notes.”
According to the Mueller report, McGahn said “real lawyers” keep notes, then explained that creating a record was “not a bad thing.”
The president responded, “I’ve had a lot of great lawyers, like Roy Cohn. He did not take notes.”
The Post reported Friday that “the fact that some of those notes became primary source material for Mueller to paint a vivid portrait of Trump’s deception and malfeasance angered the president.”
Nitro Express
04-20-2019, 03:03 AM
Well Trump got his get out of jail card from the US Senate and the Justice Department. The country is still split. It’s still partisan politics. Trump is now the Republican Party. Unlike 2016 where he had to battle the Republicans it seems to be a unified party going into the election.
I’m sure Nancy Pelosi wants to see the Democrats win big in 2020 but she knows wasting time impeaching Trump won’t result in votes. She wants to get some stuff done that benefits the Democrat base. How Washington works is you negotiate. The problem is the new more radical Democrats want to go for impeachment which of course the Senate won’t confirm.
I have a wired feeling we might see Hillary run again. She’s crazy enough to do it. She will still have a big following too. The road to 2020 could be a real circus.
Nitro Express
04-20-2019, 03:20 AM
I guess we'll have to wait for the 14 other spinoff investigations, won't we Benghazi Express? In anycase, how many convictions did your conspiracy shits produce?
Yeah. Go ahead and waste time on those. See where it ends up on Election Day in 2020. The Republicans wasted all sorts of time and resources going after Bill Clinton and at election time it bit them on the ass because the voters were angry they pissed up a rope going after Clinton instead of getting anything done that actually benefitted the average voter.
If you want to beat Trump in 2020 you are going to need the Democrat Party unified and you are going to have to have a candidate that appeals to the more moderate voters and not just the extremists. I would focus on beating Trump at the ballot box instead of wasting time on more investigations.
Nickdfresh
04-20-2019, 07:09 AM
Yeah. Go ahead and waste time on those. See where it ends up on Election Day in 2020. The Republicans wasted all sorts of time and resources going after Bill Clinton and at election time it bit them on the ass because the voters were angry they pissed up a rope going after Clinton instead of getting anything done that actually benefitted the average voter.
If you want to beat Trump in 2020 you are going to need the Democrat Party unified and you are going to have to have a candidate that appeals to the more moderate voters and not just the extremists. I would focus on beating Trump at the ballot box instead of wasting time on more investigations.
They're not "wasting time". If you pay attention the way you've always seemed to pay attention to your conspiracy shit, you'd know that it has been stated numerous times by Trump semi-supporters/friends that his real legal threat is from the Southern District of NY. Aggressive prosecutors not constrained to a very limited, narrow mandate Mueller was. They're also quite adept at investigation of white collar crime...
ZahZoo
04-20-2019, 10:52 AM
Like a lot of people you are confusing the 'Barr version' with what the report says -
Attorney General William Barr's summary of special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election didn't find sufficient evidence to charge anyone involved in President Donald Trump's 2016 campaign with conspiracy to influence the election.
Barr's letter to Congress said Mueller, who has been investigating Russian interference since May of 2017, identified two separate Russian-sponsored attempts to interfere in the election.
The letter said that neither the "Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in these efforts, despite multiple offers from the Russian-affiliated officials to assist the Trump campaign."
Mueller's probe into Russian election interference and possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia indicted three Russian companies and 34 people, including eight Americans affiliated with the Trump campaign or administration.
There are now more than 101 known points of contact between the Trump campaign and Russian-government linked people or entities, including 23 meetings or calls.
Sixteen Trump campaign officials are known to have had direct contact with a Russian government official or a Russian-linked operative, and at least an additional nine campaign officials were aware of these contacts.
Trump campaign officials had meetings, calls, and digital correspondence with high-level Russian government officials, billionaires linked to Putin, an accused Russian spy, and hackers enlisted by Russian intelligence to meddle in the 2016 elections.
Here is a timeline of the Trump campaign's known contacts with Russia, compiled with the help of resources from the Moscow Project and the Washington Post.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-campaign-russia-government-contact-timeline-2018-7?r=US&IR=T
I do have to put most of the basis for my understanding of all this based on the actual published reports from the investigation conducted by the DOJ and the indictments handed down within the actual court system. Can't claim that information is fully based on "the truth"... but it is fully based on reality... of which, most media reports are questionable at best.
In several of your points though, about Russian linked people meeting/corresponding with Trump campaign people... a key factor is who initiated the contact and what transpired between the parties. In every case I've read about so far... it was the Russians reaching out to the Trump folks and in each case the Russians offering something but the recipients rejected or did not engage further in what was offered.
This supports my opinion that the Russians were actively working many angles and were guilty of what they've been charged with. But the Trump folks didn't engage on any of these offers and therefore could not be charged with any conspiracy of working with the Russians.
I liken this to the crap I endure living in the Bible Belt™... any given month, I get Jehovah's Witnesses, Baptists, Pentecostals, etc. showing up at my front door wanting to talk God, religion and such... inviting us to their revivals, worship services and events. We have a polite conversation, I thank them for stopping by and send them on their way. Does that make me guilty of colluding with the Evangelicals..?
Failing New York Times printed the "F bomb"??
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Nickdfresh
04-20-2019, 09:16 PM
New poll has Trump at a 37% approval rating (down 3 points) as parts of the Mueller Report paint him as a flaccid, impotent old fool whose subordinates ignore his orders so they do not implicate themselves in crimes - ultimately saving Trump from obstruction charges...
Nickdfresh
04-20-2019, 09:28 PM
From 'total exoneration' to 'total bullsh**': Trump lingers on damning report
By Kevin Liptak and Kaitlan Collins, CNN
Updated 8:48 AM ET, Sat April 20, 2019
WASHINGTON, DC - APRIL 02: White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders talks to journalists outside the West Wing of the White House April 02, 2019 in Washington, DC. Following a televised interview with FOX News, Sanders fielded questions about immigration, the Mueller report and other topics. (Photo by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)
Sanders to Mueller: False comments were a slip of tongue
Trump on Mueller appointment: I'm f***ed
Washington (CNN)By the time President Donald Trump had passed through the prime rib buffet at Mar-a-Lago on Thursday to sit for dinner with family and a top aide, the damning picture Robert Mueller's report painted of his presidency had become clear.
Instead of the "total exoneration" Trump had proclaimed earlier, the report portrayed the President as deceitful and paranoid, encouraging his aides to withhold the truth and cross ethical lines in an attempt to thwart a probe into Russia's interference in US elections -- his "Achilles heel," according to one forthcoming adviser.
Perhaps more angering to a leader who detests weakness -- but doesn't necessarily mind an amoral reputation -- were the number of underlings shown ignoring his commands, privately scoffing at the "crazy sh**" he was requesting and working around him to avoid self-implication.
Now, those close to him say Trump is newly furious at the people -- most of whom no longer work for him -- whose extensive interviews with the special counsel's office created the epic depiction of an unscrupulous and chaotic White House. And he's seeking assurances from those who remain that his orders are being treated like those of a president, and not like suggestions from an intemperate but misguided supervisor.
Undermining, but protective: How Trump's staff's insolence may have saved him
Undermining, but protective: How Trump's staff's insolence may have saved him
"Because I never agreed to testify, it was not necessary for me to respond to statements made in the 'Report' about me, some of which are total bullshit & only given to make the other person look good (or me to look bad)," Trump tweeted on Friday morning as he waited out a rainstorm in Florida before proceeding to his golf course for a round with conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh.
Some current and former officials who accurately predicted that details in the Mueller report would be embarrassing for the White House are now questioning the legal strategy to fully cooperate with the Mueller investigation.
One official who sat down with the special counsel noted that they did so at the behest of the former White House legal team, John Dowd and Ty Cobb, who provided a wealth of documents and encouraged senior officials to be interviewed. It was because of these interviews with people closest to the President that Mueller and his team were able to get a cinematic look at the deceit and trickery taking place in the West Wing.
While these people are critical, the full cooperation was a strategy to make it hard for Mueller to push for an interview given all the information he was given. It was a strategy that worked, even if there is some political embarrassment.
The President was aware ahead of its public release what was contained in the Mueller report. Attorney General Bill Barr told reporters Thursday that both the White House counsel and Trump's personal legal team were given an opportunity to read the redacted version in the previous days.
Mounting anger
Undermining, but protective: How Trump's staff's insolence may have saved him
But Trump grew angry as he watched cable news coverage because, sources familiar with the matter said, a theme was emerging that vexed him: a portrait of a dishonest president who is regularly managed, restrained or ignored by his staff.
It was a sharp turn away from his earlier statements, which welcomed the report's findings on collusion and falsely claimed total exoneration. Hours before his Mar-a-Lago dinner, Trump insisted to a crowd on the tarmac in Florida the dark days of Mueller's special counsel investigation had ended.
"Game over, folks," he said over the sounds of a busy airport. "Now, it's back to work."
It's hard to tell, however, what Trump intends to head back to. Mueller's probe and Trump's constant focus on it have been the backdrop for all but a few months of the presidency, often diminishing whatever policy efforts have been orchestrated by officials or Republican lawmakers. The report depicts a President who for two years has been largely consumed by the Russia investigation, intent on short-circuiting it but repeatedly stymied in his efforts by aides.
A senior administration official told CNN's Jake Tapper that dynamic was "nothing surprising."
"That the President makes absurd demands of his staff and administration officials -- who are alarmed by them and reluctant to follow them -- is not only unsurprising but has become the norm," the official said.
Nevertheless, in the past Trump has resisted the idea that he is being controlled by those around him or that they are responsible for his successes. Sources familiar with how the West Wing operates said attempts to subvert the President's demands have not ceased now that the Mueller investigation is over. There have been instances in recent weeks where aides have slow walked or ignored Trump's directives, hoping he will forget he gave them.
What is clear is many of those who avoided carrying out Trump's demands related to Mueller's probe -- often, it seemed, in a bid to protect themselves from criminal wrongdoing -- are no longer employed by the White House. Instead, the aides who now surround the President appear less willing to write him off and more likely to encourage him to follow his gut.
Among those who have moved on: the White House counsel who refused Trump's demand to fire Mueller, the chief of staff and senior adviser who anxiously tried to retrieve a resignation letter from the attorney general, the staff secretary who declined Trump's order to gauge the loyalty of a Justice Department official, the attorney general who refused to un-recuse himself and the communications chief who seemed most expert in Trump's whims.
Even Steve Bannon, once viewed as the ultimate advocate for following Trump's instincts, is depicted in the report as a constraining force. In one instance, when the President tried to claim Mueller had a conflict of interest because of a membership dispute at a Trump golf club, Bannon wrote it off as "ridiculous and petty." Trump and Bannon parted ways in the summer of 2017 and have not reconciled since.
Instead, the most prominent aides who do remain are depicted in the report as the most dishonest. Press secretary Sarah Sanders, who was out the office when the report was released, is shown repeatedly misleading the press, a fact she attempted to downplay in morning television interviews on Friday.
"(Trump) has never asked me to break the law," she said on CBS. "When the President wants to do something and make a decision, he does it. He's not somebody who sit around and ponders. I think you guys have seen that day in and day out. One minute you're running stories saying the staff can't control him and the next minute everyone's saying thank God the staff could control him. You don't get to have it both ways."
Increasingly untethered
Among those who Trump dined with in Florida on Thursday was Mick Mulvaney, the chief of staff who still fills the role in an acting capacity but who, according to officials, has done less than either of his two predecessors to restrain Trump in his hardline instincts.
Indeed, since Mulvaney's tenure began at the start of the year, Trump has overseen the longest government shutdown in US history, a dramatic shakeup at the Department of Homeland Security, a sharp turn toward harsher policies on the border, a decision to ask a court to scrap the entire Affordable Care Act and a confusing dictate on North Korea sanctions that still has advisers scratching their heads.
People familiar with Mulvaney's style say those outcomes aren't necessarily his doing, but rather the result of a President newly empowered to follow his impulses without the restrictions placed on him by previous aides. Sources say the President has also come to rely on his chief of staff less than he did during the reign of Reince Priebus or John Kelly, when he would often call his top aide nearly a dozen times a day. Mulvaney has told colleagues there are days he barely hears from the President.
In his report, Mueller describes both of Mulvaney's predecessors -- Priebus and Kelly -- as working in at least some capacity to contain the damage of Trump's behavior. Priebus is shown making an urgent (and vaguely comic) effort to recover a resignation letter from then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions that Trump had kept, believing it would amount to a "shock collar" on the Justice Department because it was not dated and aides feared Trump could employ it at his leisure.
Kelly told Mueller that when Trump wanted to meet with friends who encouraged his impulses, such as former campaign aide Corey Lewandowski, he tried to push them to the private residence "to create distance from the West Wing."
Trump soured on Priebus and Kelly long before he summarily terminated each of their tenures. So, too, had Trump grown wary of former White House counsel Don McGahn, who sat for more than 30 hours of testimony with Mueller's team. Trump grew irate again at his former aide late Thursday and into Friday.
In the report, Trump is described as having several tense encounters with McGahn during his White House tenure, including episodes when McGahn was prepared to resign rather than carry out Trump's demands.
McGahn described Trump asking him to do "crazy sh**," according to Priebus. Trump, meanwhile, deemed McGahn a "lying bastard" whose habit of taking contemporaneous notes raised suspicion. In an anecdote relayed in the report, Trump and McGahn went back-and-forth over the note-taking, which Trump insisted good lawyers -- such as his onetime counsel Roy Cohn -- never did.
Trump hadn't backed off that view by Friday morning, when he made clear on Twitter his frustrations at the report.
"Watch out for people that take so-called 'notes,' when the notes never existed until needed," the President wrote.
CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/20/politics/donald-trump-mueller-report-anger/index.html)
Seshmeister
04-21-2019, 08:59 PM
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McGahn described Trump asking him to do "crazy sh**," according to Priebus. Trump, meanwhile, deemed McGahn a "lying bastard" whose habit of taking contemporaneous notes raised suspicion. In an anecdote relayed in the report, Trump and McGahn went back-and-forth over the note-taking, which Trump insisted good lawyers -- such as his onetime counsel Roy Cohn -- never did.
Roy Cohn, not only a real nasty piece of shit but literally a mob lawyer. He also worked for Tony Salerno, Carmine Galante, and John Gotti.
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