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Big Train
07-19-2004, 08:30 PM
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Singer Linda Ronstadt's tribute to leftist filmmaker Michael Moore at the Aladdin in Las Vegas was booed by concertgoers in attendance, hundreds of whom walked out.

According to a report in the Las Vegas Sun, some of the angry fans reportedly defaced posters of her in the lobby of the hotel, writing comments and tossing drinks on her pictures.


Saturday's tribute to Moore prompted Aladdin President Bill Timmins, who attended the concert, to ban Ronstadt from the property. Staff checked her out of her room and escorted her to her tour bus.

Near the end of the show, Ronstadt, 58, dedicated the Eagles hit "Desperado" to Moore, whose Bush-bashing "Fahrenheit 9/11" is currently playing in theaters. According to the paper, the room erupted into equal parts boos and cheers.

She told the audience Moore "is someone who cares about this country deeply and is trying to help."

Timmins told Sun gossip columnist Timothy McDarrah: "We live in a city where people come from all over the world to be entertained. We hired Ms. Ronstadt as an entertainer, not as a political activist.

"Whether you are politically on the left or on the right is not the point. She went up in front of the stage and just let it out. This was not the correct forum for that."

Continued Timmins: "Our first and only priority is the enjoyment of our customers. I made the decision to ask Miss Ronstadt to leave the hotel. A situation like that can easily turn ugly and I didn't want anything more to come out of it. There were a lot of angry people there after she started talking.

"If she wants to talk about her views to a newspaper or in a magazine article, she is free to do so. But in a stage in front of four and a half thousand people is not the place for it."

Aladdin spokeswoman Tyri Squyres said Ronstadt didn't make a scene when being ejected from the hotel.

"She wasn't happy, but she was cooperative," Squyres said.

According to a report in the Las Vegas Review-Journal, Ronstadt also made disparaging remarks about Las Vegas and Aladdin during the show.

distortion9
07-19-2004, 08:35 PM
Fuck the fat fuck!

FORD
07-19-2004, 08:44 PM
And fuck the fascist fucks who fucked her freedom of speech

John Ashcroft
07-19-2004, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by FORD
And fuck the fascist fucks who fucked her freedom of speech

Dude, you do realize how fucking ridiculous that charge is, don't you? A private company has no obligation to respect an "artists" political (or any other) speech. They determine who they'll pay, and for what service. This is entirely different than having a government suppress political speech (ala campaing finance "reform").

If the Bush admin were truly suppressing leftist speech, a movie like Moore's would never see the light of day. It's this fact alone that makes me think you're statement about freedom of speech is pretty damn stupid.

On a side note, how's Ahhhhhnold doing with the leftist thought police? Seems he used his First Ammendment right just recently, and the damn PC crowd on the left is ready to crucify him. Are you equally concerned with his rights?

ELVIS
07-19-2004, 08:58 PM
She was hired to sing, asswipe!

BigBadBrian
07-19-2004, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by FORD
And fuck the fascist fucks who fucked her freedom of speech


FORD, you're promoted to first class idiot with that statement. Her rights weren't denied. It was a business decision. Get over it...ya fat fuck. :gulp:

FORD
07-19-2004, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by John Ashcroft

If the Bush admin were truly suppressing leftist speech, a movie like Moore's would never see the light of day.

It almost didn't, remember? The BCE pressured Eisner to pull the plug on Disney's distributuion. Then when that didn't stop it, the Carlyle Group bought one of the largest theater chains in the country (Loews). Unfortunately for the BCE , that deal didn't go through in time to keep the chain from booking the movie.

On a side note, how's Ahhhhhnold doing with the leftist thought police? Seems he used his First Ammendment right just recently, and the damn PC crowd on the left is ready to crucify him. Are you equally concerned with his rights?

It's a ridiculously irresponsible thing for a governor to be saying. And that's all the comment I need to make on that one.

freak
07-19-2004, 11:22 PM
Of course, the obligatory "Her freedom of speech was violated" comments surfaced immediately.

To those individuals responsible for said comments, remove your heads from your asses.

The old biddy was hired to sing and entertain, not stand there and spout off her political views. Paying customers tend to be un-amused by that sort of thing.

Do you walk around the office all day and, rather than work, expouse your political views?

No, you do not.

Why?

Because they'd fire your ass for not doing your job.

Same thing happened here.

Ok, you may shove your heads back up your collective asses again.

freak
07-19-2004, 11:38 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
She was hired to sing, asswipe!

Don't deny him his Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.

Ford, you are right.

The Republican hate machine has claimed another victim and none too soon.

Linda Rondstadt's reputation as a socio-political analyst meant she had to be taken down. Think Karl Marx with tits. Very dangerous.

It wasn't so much her message as it was her presentation that scared conservatives.

The credibility communicated by cottage cheese thighs crammed in rhinestone studded pants is a dangerous kind that incites the weak-minded to band together "for the good of the proletariat".

She simply had to be stopped for the good of mankind.

Lincoln
07-20-2004, 12:41 AM
First of all Linda was not stopped from preforming she finished her show, so the bullshit "the fucks that fucked her freedom of speech" is just absurd!

Secondly, I wonder, did Linda dedicate "Your'e no Good" to herself?

kid vegas rules
07-20-2004, 01:20 AM
Get that fucking cunt out of MY TOWN!!She's been offcially BLACKBALLED FROM VEGAS!!!That fucking bitch,talking that shit!!Her and that Fucking,LYING Piece of no talent Moore have the same waist line for Christ sake!!!FUCK HER,WHAT LITTLE CAREER SHE HAD LEFT ,IT'S OVER!!!Don't let the Vegas sign hit your flat,bigass on the WAY OUT BITCH!!!

KID VEGAS.......................FUCK HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ally_Kat
07-20-2004, 01:24 AM
Originally posted by kid vegas rules
Get that fucking cunt out of MY TOWN!!She's been offcially BLACKBALLED FROM VEGAS!!!That fucking bitch,talking that shit!!Her and that Fucking,LYING Piece of no talent Moore have the same waist line for Christ sake!!!FUCK HER,WHAT LITTLE CAREER SHE HAD LEFT ,IT'S OVER!!!Don't let the Vegas sign hit your flat,bigass on the WAY OUT BITCH!!!

KID VEGAS.......................FUCK HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I knew it was only a matter of time before he showed up.

How's florida this evening?

Brettt
07-20-2004, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by kid vegas rules
Get that fucking cunt out of MY TOWN!!

KID VEGAS is a dirty little bitch!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/285000/images/_286042_testicular150.jpg

Brettt
07-20-2004, 01:37 AM
KID VEGAS LICKS DOG BALLS!

http://filabrazileiro.narod.ru/brids/handling/testicles.jpg

tobinentinc
07-20-2004, 01:38 AM
When any artist gives thier political views during a concert it's annoying and often agravating, because I paid to hear music, not someones political views period. She had no business doing so. As for arnold, the liberals can't say a damn thing about the excellent job he's doing by saving California's ass after the liberal economy screwed it royally. People compare the president to Hitler and not a word is spoken, but when arnold quotes a line from an SNL skit, people, and the Liberal media jump all over it. It that whole situation is not example of how leftest the media is, then you are an idiot.

kid vegas rules
07-20-2004, 01:38 AM
Couldn't tell you how Florida is actually,let me check the weather channel.

Hey wait a second?Are you 20 years old?LOL

Don't respond to me anymore o.k.,let the adults talk.Run along now!!


KID VEGAS...........................God Bless!!

kid vegas rules
07-20-2004, 01:42 AM
Tobinentinc

17,Outstanding post!!Saved me the ink!!!When you turn 18,fly out here...............I'll pay for your first lapdance!!"Candy" at "Treasures" is waiting my young Alex P. Keaton!!!Just good stuff!!

KID VEGAS..................God Bless!!

Ally_Kat
07-20-2004, 02:06 AM
Originally posted by kid vegas rules
Couldn't tell you how Florida is actually,let me check the weather channel.

Hey wait a second?Are you 20 years old?LOL

Don't respond to me anymore o.k.,let the adults talk.Run along now!!


KID VEGAS...........................God Bless!!

awh, I'm sorry. Are you pissed because my sexy 20-year-old ass calls another man Daddy?

Big Train
07-20-2004, 02:07 AM
Thats right Ally...even though you should keep our bedroom secrets private.

thefive
07-20-2004, 02:09 AM
I am happy that this happened. Shows that a lot of people dislike Michael Moore. Shows you that the liberals are the ones that are the reason that the movie made millions. I dislike Michael Moore so much.

Ally_Kat
07-20-2004, 02:09 AM
Originally posted by Big Train
Thats right Ally...even though you should keep our bedroom secrets private.

I'm sorry baby. I've been a bad girl. Do I need a spanking? :angel:

Big Train
07-20-2004, 02:11 AM
I will not say in front of our audience. But come here, and bring the oil...

kid vegas rules
07-20-2004, 02:13 AM
Trouble is if I spank you 2 things happen,you fall in love,then I go to jail!!!

Now get to bed o.k.!!School in the morning!Lights out!!


KID VEGAS...........................God Bless!!

Ally_Kat
07-20-2004, 02:28 AM
Originally posted by kid vegas rules
Trouble is if I spank you 2 things happen,you fall in love,then I go to jail!!!

Now get to bed o.k.!!School in the morning!Lights out!!


KID VEGAS...........................God Bless!!

Why? What goes on in Vegas stays in Vegas. Oh wait...it helps if you are in Vegas. Don't ya just hate technicalities? :D

Oh, and baby doll, (not you BT ;) ) I could run circles around you, but it would be mean to pick on the mentally challenged.

kid vegas rules
07-20-2004, 02:33 AM
Call me back when you grow some hair on your cat.alright little girl!!

Good night Alice,remember to drink a warm glass of milk before bedtime!!


KID VEGAS.........................God Bless!!

Christ67
07-20-2004, 02:35 AM
Didn't Dave cover this in his book?? You can choose to be an artist or an entertainer, If you pay to see an artist you get their "art" (political work and all) You pay to see an entertainer ..... Holy shit you get entertained. If you thought she was an entertainer you never heard of the 70's. Regardless, what the fuck does this have to do with Dave????? Correct again Nothing.

Ally_Kat
07-20-2004, 02:36 AM
Originally posted by kid vegas rules
Call me back when you grow some hair on your cat.alright little girl!!

Good night Alice,remember to drink a warm glass of milk before bedtime!!


KID VEGAS.........................God Bless!!

Sweetheart, I wouldn't call you to clean my dog's shit.

Ask around. You ain't dealing with any run of the mill 20 year old.

Ally_Kat
07-20-2004, 02:38 AM
Originally posted by Christ67
Didn't Dave cover this in his book?? You can choose to be an artist or an entertainer, If you pay to see an artist you get their "art" (political work and all) You pay to see an entertainer ..... Holy shit you get entertained. If you thought she was an entertainer you never heard of the 70's. Regardless, what the fuck does this have to do with Dave????? Correct again Nothing.

You must be lost. This isn't Main. In case you didn't read hte description on your way in --

The Front Line
The ongoing discussion on the War Against Terrorism. The soldiers of the DLR Army strike back. In honor of the victims of September 11, 2001. We will never forget. Moderated by: Dr. Love, ELVIS, FORD


This is the part of the board where we can talk politics.

Wayne L.
07-20-2004, 05:49 AM
70's pop/rock queen Linda Ronstadt was just LOOKING for publicity more than anything else with her comments about liberal left loony filmmaker Michael Moore & her anti-Bush rhetoric because she's yesterday's news despite some great pop/rock classics!!! BTW, Michael Moore will be yesterday's news before too long especially after Fahrenheit 9/11 because he's a publicity pimp of the lowest common denominator.

BigBadBrian
07-20-2004, 07:47 AM
Originally posted by freak
Don't deny him his Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.

Ford, you are right.

The Republican hate machine has claimed another victim and none too soon.

Linda Rondstadt's reputation as a socio-political analyst meant she had to be taken down. Think Karl Marx with tits. Very dangerous.

It wasn't so much her message as it was her presentation that scared conservatives.

The credibility communicated by cottage cheese thighs crammed in rhinestone studded pants is a dangerous kind that incites the weak-minded to band together "for the good of the proletariat".

She simply had to be stopped for the good of mankind.





:D :D :D :D :D

Ally_Kat
07-20-2004, 02:17 PM
The real deal

Linda Ronstadt's current tour – 'a history lesson of music' – reflects her dedication to authenticity, and quality

By George Varga
July 15, 2004

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20040715/images/2004-07-15ronstadt.jpg
Linda Ronstadt says audience reaction to her nightly, on-stage tribute to filmaker Michael Moore is "very interesting and very intense."


Other singers may have a greater passion for music than Linda Ronstadt. But few have a greater passion for more types of music, or the willingness to perform them, even at the risk of falling on her face.

"I've done that a couple of times," acknowledged Ronstadt with a knowing chuckle. "But my motto in life is: You don't have to be original, you have to be authentic.

"So all the music (styles) I've sung professionally I sang in my living room in Tuscon by the time I was 10, either after being tempted by my brother and sister (Mike and Suzi, both musicians), or things I heard on the radio," continued the veteran vocal star, who performs a sold-out concert here Sunday at Humphrey's Concerts by the Bay with the Baltimore Symphony.

"And the stuff that I admired I couldn't help but try. The stuff I had the hardest time with required serious training, like classical music. It's really hard to fake classical! But I heard it so much as a kid, and loved it so much, that I would have taken it as a career path if I hadn't moved to Los Angeles and also liked folk music as much."

Ronstadt, who would go on to sell 50 million albums and win 10 Grammy Awards as a solo artist, left Arizona for L.A. in 1964 as a member of the folk music trio the Stone Poneys. Only 18, her musical horizons were about to be expanded by the budding folk-rock revolution.

"I heard the Byrds, who were folk guys who went into pop, and I'd probably have been an opera singer otherwise," recalled Ronstadt, whose luminous voice and stylistic diversity has made her one of the most acclaimed pop singers of the past 40 years.

"Whatever I sang, I was burning to sing. It communicated something I felt an urgent need to communicate, and not to anybody specifically, just in a room, by myself. Then comes the resonance of the culture around you. For me, the culture often resonated to the things I liked the least."

Those "things" were the infectious pop-rock songs that accounted for some of her biggest hits, including 1975's "You're No Good," "When Will I Be Loved" and "Heatwave," 1977's "It's So Easy," and her upbeat 1978 versions of Warren Zevon's "Poor Poor Pitiful Me" and the Rolling Stones' "Tumbling Dice."

"I think the biggest risk I took was trying to sing rock 'n' roll, because it comes to me least authentically. Unfortunately, it came to dominate me and I had to throw it off," Ronstadt said, speaking from the San Francisco condo she and her two adopted children live in when they're not at home in Tuscon.

"So it was safer to come back to Mexican music and the music I sang as a child. My favorite thing to do is ballads, and you can't do that all night (because) people come with their cultural prejudices. Plus, they remember taking acid to something you did in 1975, and that's what they want to hear."

What Ronstadt wanted to hear, and perform, is anything and everything that struck her fancy.

She's done precisely that for the past four decades, singing avant-jazz on Carla Bley's 1971 opus "Escalator Over the Hill," minimalistic tone poems with Philip Glass on 1986's "Liquid Days," and African-tinged pop the same year on Paul Simon's landmark "Graceland" album.

She performed the Puccini opera "La Boheme," starred in a Broadway production of "The Pirates of Penzance," and made three albums of impeccably orchestrated jazz standards with famed arranger Nelson Riddle. And she's collaborated with everyone from country-rock pioneer Gram Parsons, Dolly Parton and Latin music maverick Ruben Blades to the Chieftains, ex-Kinks guitarist Dave Davies and Tex-Mex conjunto accordionist Flaco Jimenez.

"My career has befuddled other people, and it's befuddled me," admitted Ronstadt, 58, who finds her fans are polarized by her nightly on-stage salute to "Fahrenheit 9/11" filmmaker Michael Moore.

"I've been dedicating a song to him – I think he's a great patriot – and it splits the audience down the middle, and they duke it out," she said.

"This is an election year, and I think we're in desperate trouble and it's time for people to speak up and not pipe down. It's a real conflict for me when I go to a concert and find out somebody in the audience is a Republican or fundamental Christian. It can cloud my enjoyment. I'd rather not know."

Ronstadt calls her current tour with the Baltimore Symphony Orchestra "a history lesson of music," although the emphasis is more on sophisticated entertainment than dry education.

"I'm doing the entire 20th-century American songbook," she explained. "It's a lot to put on an audience, and it's been interesting. In some places they favor the standards I sing; in others they go nuts at the end when I do my hits. Some react more to the Billy Strayhorn song I do ('Lush Life'), and some don't know what to think of it at all.

"But I don't give them what they want at the expense of singing a song I hate, or a song I've outgrown. I won't sing 'You're No Good.' I thought it was a well-structured song (when I recorded it), even though my vocals were completely suck-worthy."

Ronstadt's tour offers a retrospective of her career, although it skips her mariachi music forays and her shimmering duets with Emmylou Harris. It also excludes any examples of her more esoteric collaborations with the likes of Frank Zappa, Kate & Anna McGarrigle, bluegrass mainstays the Seldom Scene and the three Davids (Bromberg, Lindley and Sanborn).

"When I did the Mexican stuff (on tour) I got a completely different audience and they were the most satisfying. They really knew the music, and knew when to respond and when to be quiet," Ronstadt said.

"I never listen to my albums. I can only look at the next thing coming up, music without me included. Because music is just music to me, whether it's going through my mouth or someone else's, or through their instrument."



The best of Ronstadt

Linda Ronstadt has recorded many albums featuring many styles of music. These are some of her most notable:

Solo

"Silk Purse" (1970)

"Heart Like a Wheel" (1974)

"Simple Dreams" (1977)

"Canciones De Mi Padre

(My Father's Songs)" (1987)

"Feels Like Home" (1995)

With others

Carla Bley, "Escalator Over the Hill" (1971)

Maria Muldaur, "Sweet Harmony" (1976)

Philip Glass, "Songs From Liquid Days" (1986)

Randy Newman, "Randy Newman's Faust" (1993)

Emmylou Harris, Linda Ronstadt,

Dolly Parton, "Trio II" (1999)

– GEORGE VARGA




The diva speaks
Linda Ronstadt on:

Singing at home: "It's gotten to point where I don't sing at home. When I do, my son says: 'You sound like a sick parrot!' "

Touring: "I love to rehearse, and I'd rather go to the (pre-concert) sound-check than the show. I'm thrilled people like to hear it, especially if it makes somebody cry, but I really wish I could stay home. I love my children, and I miss my dogs and cat."

Using on-stage TelePrompTers: "I don't have much trouble remembering the standards, because the lyrics are so structured. What I have a really hard time with are rock songs, because every song is the same: 'Ooh, baby, I love you.' In the old days I'd make up a phrase that rhymed, but didn't make sense. But I don't want to do that now."

The state of the nation: "I saw a movie recently about a camel and these people in Mongolia, and I relate to them better than people here in this country. It looks like (Germany's) Weimar Republic to me here."

Her solo albums: "I never listen to anything I do after I finish (recording) it. If I do, it can ruin my week. I think: 'Ugh, that sucks!' "

Interpreting songs: "I try to learn it as exactly as I can to what the writer originally did. Warren Zevon and Jimmy Webb are so eccentric and quirky, and I try to learn to sing it exactly in their accent, their phrasing. But as soon as you change the key, everything goes out the window."

Singing standards: "What I love about standards is that they are complex and sophisticated, and you can tell your story with them at any age."

– GEORGE VARGA

ELVIS
07-20-2004, 03:50 PM
Diva ???

ELVIS
07-20-2004, 03:54 PM
RONSTADT BIGOT: 'It's a real conflict for me when I go to a concert and find out somebody in the audience is a Republican or fundamental Christian. It can cloud my enjoyment. I'd rather not know.'...

Lincoln
07-20-2004, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
RONSTADT BIGOT: 'It's a real conflict for me when I go to a concert and find out somebody in the audience is a Republican or fundamental Christian. It can cloud my enjoyment. I'd rather not know.'...

Shouldn't be a problem in the future, she is not going to have an audience.

FORD
07-20-2004, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by Ally_Kat
"But I don't give them what they want at the expense of singing a song I hate, or a song I've outgrown. I won't sing 'You're No Good.' I thought it was a well-structured song (when I recorded it), even though my vocals were completely suck-worthy."


Obviously she knows that a much better version of the song exists.....

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002KK5.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

FORD
07-20-2004, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
RONSTADT BIGOT: 'It's a real conflict for me when I go to a concert and find out somebody in the audience is a Republican or fundamental Christian. It can cloud my enjoyment. I'd rather not know.'...

So she's a bigot for not wanting to know right wingers are in her audience, but the right wingers aren't bigoted for booing her for speaking her mind?

Remove that beam from thy eye, hypocrite!

John Ashcroft
07-20-2004, 05:50 PM
I'm not making the connection Ford...

She's uncomfortable by their very existance.

Fans booing her for opinion on Michael Moore is not bigoted in the least. Are they not allowed to disagree? Are they not allowed to vocalize their displeasure with her speech at a concert they payed to attend?

Again, some of her fans were upset with her actions while she's upset by their mere existance.

There's a huge difference.

BigBadBrian
07-20-2004, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by FORD
So she's a bigot for not wanting to know right wingers are in her audience, but the right wingers aren't bigoted for booing her for speaking her mind?



Now you got it. She's a whore. :gulp:

Ally_Kat
07-20-2004, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by FORD
So she's a bigot for not wanting to know right wingers are in her audience, but the right wingers aren't bigoted for booing her for speaking her mind?

Remove that beam from thy eye, hypocrite!

what if we changed a couple of words?

'It's a real conflict for me when I go to a concert and find out somebody in the audience is black or hispanic. It can cloud my enjoyment. I'd rather not know.'...

FORD
07-20-2004, 07:05 PM
Somehow I doubt very much that Linda Ronstadt, half Mexican herself, would be prejudiced against Hispanics. For that matter, even a white person growing up in Tucson Arizona would be familiar enough with Mexican culture.

You can't compare race, which, like gender or sexual orientation, is inborn, to political affiliation which is a choice. Nobody is "born"a right winger. Or a left winger for that matter.

Big Train
07-20-2004, 07:25 PM
Yes you can. Read a discrimation law or two. You can't decide to not hire someone on the basis of appearance ethnicity, race, sex, religion or creed OR political affiliation. On what principles do you think that law rests?

ELVIS
07-20-2004, 07:59 PM
The bottom line is that entertainers are paid to entertain, period.

ELVIS
07-20-2004, 08:04 PM
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Ronstadt Explains: 'I'm not telling them how to vote. I'm saying, get information about the issues'...

John Ashcroft
07-20-2004, 08:41 PM
Do you all feel better informed now?

Thanks darling. Now back to singing...

freak
07-20-2004, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
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Ronstadt Explains: 'I'm not telling them how to vote. I'm saying, get information about the issues'...

And I'm saying "Your photographer really earned his money on your photoshoot."

I also say that going down on Jerry Brown in the seventies really screwed your mind up. Go back to the oldies circuit, sing your songs, keep your silly-assed views to yourself and be thankful that some who actually remember you still live and are ambulatory.

BigBadBrian
07-20-2004, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by FORD

You can't compare race, which, like gender or sexual orientation, is inborn,

Sexual orientation is not inborn. Homosexuality is brought on by a deviant culture. :gulp:

freak
07-20-2004, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Sexual orientation is not inborn. Homosexuality is brought on by a deviant culture. :gulp:

I disagree.

No man wakes up one day and, out of the blue, thinks to himself, "I ought to dress in pastels and shove something up my ass"

There has to be a crossed wire or two in the noggin for this to happen.

Ally_Kat
07-20-2004, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by freak
I disagree.

No man wakes up one day and, out of the blue, thinks to himself, "I ought to dress in pastels and shove something up my ass"

There has to be a crossed wire or two in the noggin for this to happen.

Homosexuality was/still is a fab that began when I was in high school. And it's growing even more now. It's cool to be gay apparently when you are a teen. The kids in high school then throw it around and claim that their needs are not being addressed.

I had many friends who claimed that they would only be sexually active with members of their own gender. A couple of them are getting married now. The girls claim that they like penis' more than a women titties and the guys claim they never slept with another dude and they were just joking around.

FORD
07-21-2004, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by Big Train
Yes you can. Read a discrimation law or two. You can't decide to not hire someone on the basis of appearance ethnicity, race, sex, religion or creed OR political affiliation. On what principles do you think that law rests?

Do you wear a "I Love the BCE" shirt to a job interview? Do you write "Republicans ROOL!!" on your resume? How the fuck is anyone going to know your political affiliation when applying for a job?

FORD
07-21-2004, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Sexual orientation is not inborn. Homosexuality is brought on by a deviant culture. :gulp:

Deviant culture? You mean like the neocons?

Sgt Schultz
07-21-2004, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by FORD


You can't compare race, which, like gender or sexual orientation, is inborn, to political affiliation which is a choice. Nobody is "born"a right winger. Or a left winger for that matter.

I agree. Sure, there are a few kids in college experimenting with all sorts of things - substances, sexuality etc - but gender and sexual orientation is something a person is born with. There aren't more people who are homosexual now than there ever were in the past. They are just "out" more now. The increasing acceptance of homosexuality is not an indication of a "deviant culture".

Big Train
07-21-2004, 10:17 AM
Ford, once again, you missed the point. The PRINCIPLES the laws are based upon state that discrimination can be for any of those things.

Prejudice is what it is. What you base it on , is up to you. So I feel it is a fair comparison. Even if it is not obvious, if you come to find it out and base a decision on it, it is prejudice. She would "Rather not know they are there". I think Ally's comparison is fair.

DLR'sCock
07-21-2004, 05:27 PM
Good for her for saying whatever...

And yeah the owners of the casino don't have to rehire her if they don't care for her political leanings...as long as the contracts are honored...

BIGBADZERO
07-25-2004, 01:46 AM
I think it's funny how the media tries to make you believe that everyone hates Bush but everytime some one attacks him, like fat ass moore, that person gets attacked.

tobinentinc
07-25-2004, 01:52 AM
Originally posted by BIGBADZERO
I think it's funny how the media tries to make you believe that everyone hates Bush but everytime some one attacks him, like fat ass moore, that person gets attacked.

One glaring example of the liberal media at work here.

FORD
07-25-2004, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by BIGBADZERO
I think it's funny how the media tries to make you believe that everyone hates Bush but everytime some one attacks him, like fat ass moore, that person gets attacked.

That's because there's a right wing website called "Free Republic" which is sending teams of delusional fascist brownshirts out to any event which they know will be critical of the BCE and or their PNAC policies.

That's how fascism works. If FAUX News had existed in 1936, they would have convinced you that Adolf Hitler was the most popular chancellor of Germany in history.

freak
07-25-2004, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by FORD
That's because there's a right wing website called "Free Republic" which is sending teams of delusional fascist brownshirts out to any event which they know will be critical of the BCE and or their PNAC policies.

That's how fascism works. If FAUX News had existed in 1936, they would have convinced you that Adolf Hitler was the most popular chancellor of Germany in history.

At the core of every liberal's belief system is a conspiracy theory.

Why y'all so paranoid???