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Sgt Schultz
07-22-2004, 10:35 AM
The Fox-Hater’s Upside-Down World

by L. Brent Bozell III
July 21, 2004

Is there anything funnier to watch than the Left suddenly discovering the virtues of journalistic objectivity? Liberals arrogantly have ruled the news media roost for decades, regularly demeaning conservative ideas and leaders in their ongoing quest for progress and enlightenment.

But now that Fox News Channel is on the scene, dominating the cable news scene and showing America that TV news can be something different than the suffocating consensus of the liberal establishment, the left is in a panic. Objectivity is needed! Democracy itself is in danger!

When Fox News debuted in 1996, liberals couldn’t contain their laughter at what they considered a sophomoric challenge to the dominant media. Then, Fox became a pest, the proverbial gnat that wouldn’t go away. Ultimately – almost overnight – Fox overtook its cable competitors and became king of the hill. Fox became a menace on the media landscape that should have been aborted before birth, a blatantly biased and bullying blight on America.

That’s the sour theme behind “Outfoxed,” a new Michael Mooresque documentary funded and circulated by the radical lefties at MoveOn.org and the so-called Center for American Progress. A summary of its thesis comes very near the film’s end when John Nichols of The Nation proclaims that Fox must be stopped because it “limits” and “narrows political discourse.”

Welcome to the Fox-hater’s upside-down world: decades of liberal TV news unanimity represented diversity, and a conservative alternative is the arrival of a narrowed spectrum of opinion? The advent of a network that doesn’t treat conservatism like an infectious disease is a danger to democracy?

Fox’s popularity is a result of a public that feels the other networks have been playing with dirty tricks and double standards in political journalism for decades, and see the “fair and balanced” product delivered by Brit Hume and Co. as real news instead. The leftist theorists interviewed in this film hate that “fair and balanced” motto, not just because they believe Fox doesn’t live up to the pledge, but because they don’t believe in it. They think conservative dissent is a clear and present danger to the socialist "paradise" they want to inflict on society.

The film’s subtitle is “Rupert Murdoch’s War on Journalism.” Here we go again. Liberals said the same thing about philanthropist and newspaper publisher Dick Scaife, who somehow waged “war on journalism” by trying to fund journalistic investigations of the Clinton scandals. Where were they when Ted Turner was at the helm of CNN portraying the Soviet Union in comically glowing terms? What about Pinch Sulzberger’s Masters-bashing antics at the New York Times? That list goes on and on, seemingly unnoticed, but when one perceived conservative takes the reins of a media outlet, the horror!

It doesn’t help matters that Robert Greenwald, the creator of “Outfoxed,” is a very sloppy amateur at the science of media analysis. Actually, it’s worse than that. This film is so dishonest that it leads one to conclude that liberals attacking Fox just can’t get the job done honestly. Fox must be picked apart as if everything it does has never been done a million times over by the liberal competition.

For example, Greenwald uncovers memos from Fox vice president John Moody telling Fox reporters how they should approach the events of the day – as if Peter Jennings or other network brass haven’t been doing the very same thing for decades. Former ABC reporters Bob Zelnick and Peter Collins could make a nice film about that.

Greenwald also thinks it’s outrageous that Fox anchors use the formulation “some people say” to ask liberals about their critics. That complaint might have merit – if Greenwald would also consider that this device is used by every other single news network as a way of questioning politicians.

A classic example of the film’s inanity is an incredibly silly attack on Bill O’Reilly because he said he almost never said “shut up” to guests. Greenwald goes about disproving this trite little point, but after finding an example or two, he ruins it all by gratuitously adding clips where O’Reilly used the words “shut up” in commentaries, or in questions where he wasn’t telling a guest to shut up, but asking the guest if someone else should shut up. Now he’s not making a point. He’s un-making it.

And do we really need to point out that O’Reilly isn’t a reporter, and therefore has nothing to do with the news product of Fox?

The liberal media elite’s double standard in journalism extends to this shoddy film, which they’ve promoted as another noteworthy brick in the wall of anti-Bush anger. If conservatives ever tried to make a documentary about the liberal media this amateurish, it would either never be mentioned, or it would be pounded until it was flat as a pancake, and deservedly so.

FORD
07-22-2004, 11:30 AM
Brent Bozo is an employee of Pat Robertson, so anything he says on the subject of "media bias" needs to be taken with a 10 pound bag of salt.

Fucking freak dyes his beard too. Probably Drudge's secret lover.

BTW traitorous unamerican shitbag Richard Mellonhead Scaife didn't "fund investigations of Clinton scandals", he funded the scandals themselves. Not to mention Paula Jones' $50,000 nose job.

Wayne L.
07-22-2004, 12:26 PM
The ultra liberal left are out of their minds politically with their SENSELESS & ugly political rhetoric against President Bush continuously instead of it being on the issues which is why John Kerry will lose by 4 0r 5 points against Bush in November, while the Left are mentally UNSTABLE criticizing FNC constantly which is fair & balanced along with being more populist than conservative or liberal, Al Franken's book showcases a FORMER funny comedian on SNL on the brink of a mental breakdown which explains his talk radio show on Air America besides if the liberal left want a news channel of their own put up the money!!!

Sgt Schultz
07-22-2004, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Brent Bozo is an employee of Pat Robertson, so anything he says on the subject of "media bias" needs to be taken with a 10 pound bag of salt.

Fucking freak dyes his beard too. Probably Drudge's secret lover.

BTW traitorous unamerican shitbag Richard Mellonhead Scaife didn't "fund investigations of Clinton scandals", he funded the scandals themselves. Not to mention Paula Jones' $50,000 nose job.

That's right, just launch an attack on the writer & source but make no comment on the substance of the piece as usual.

FORD
07-22-2004, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by Wayne L.
The ultra loony Wayne is out of his mind politically with their SENSELESS & ugly political rhetoric supporting pResident Bush continuously instead of it being on the issues which is why John Kerry will win by 4 0r 5 points against Bush in November, while the Right are mentally UNSTABLE watching FNC constantly which is about as fair & balanced as a traffic cop in a small hick town desperate for "revenue enhancement" along with being more fascist than conservative or liberal, Anndrew Coulter's book showcases a lunatic transsexual comedian on the brink of a mental breakdown which explains his hate radio show on Clear Channel besides if the liberal left want a news channel of their own put up the money, like George Bush Jr did when he financed Clear Channel through the sale of the Texas Rangers.

FORD
07-22-2004, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by Sgt Schultz
That's right, just launch an attack on the writer & source but make no comment on the substance of the piece as usual.

There is no substance, just distorted rhetoric, which is all those lying liars at the "Christian" Broadcasting Network know how to do.

Big Train
07-22-2004, 10:34 PM
Here I am conflicted. Nine times out of ten, Bozell is the WORST candidate to have speak up about anything.

That said, the man has a point here. The only reason liberals are in a tizzy is because Fox News is in a position of dominance. The bully pulpit is not as powerful as it once was. If liberals were so concerned, why not go nuts with CNN? They are only in it for a buck, cause they are a corporation right (trying to follow liberal logic, hang on to your hats)? It is convenient to be in bed with liberals (as if none of this weren't already true). Why settle with being "Outfoxed" or whatever clever title those college girls came up with.

Bottom line, moveon.bitch has no leg to stand on in this issue. Fox doesn't need to be "stopped". As a conservative, should I be picketing in the streets because of NPR's lunancy or CNN for that matter? No, I as a logical conservative, just choose to vote with my remote and get my news in a way I see fit. You can call it whatever you want, I call it a good news program. As a matter of fact, I thrown down an open challenge to all news orginazations. Put on a good show, I'll watch. It's that simple.

diamondD
07-22-2004, 11:01 PM
No shit, that's what kills me. It's popular for a reason. There's no hidden conspiracy theory here.

I'd rather watch Bill O'Reilly call someone out for avoiding the hard questions than see Larry King throw softballs any time. I don't particularly care for O'Reilly all the time, but he's got a great approach. That's why he's #1 and has liberals quaking. I love it when he talks about the left's conspiracy theories and exposes Michael Moore.

tobinentinc
07-22-2004, 11:42 PM
Fox News is yes, conservatively slanted, but in comparison to the other stations, its about as fair and balanced as you can get.

Cathedral
07-23-2004, 05:23 AM
Fox News Rules.........nuff said.

freak
07-23-2004, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by FORD
Not to mention Paula Jones' $50,000 nose job.

Yep. Thw ol' Republican hate machine is destroying America one trailer-park-princess proboscis at a time.

It's a crime, dude.

:rolleyes:

jacksmar
07-23-2004, 09:56 AM
I agree Big Train. They have to try to knock the big guy off the compost pile. If “network news” wasn’t anything more than a long, droning editorial about how anything conceived in or from the counter culture was not only politically correct but correct, I might change the channel. “Network news” is not news, it is just another editorial for the politically correct flavor-of-the-moment.

What’s really annoying about “network news” is when they actually become part of the story. The U.S. military bent over backwards to embed reporters and suddenly they were the story. What nobody got was the fact that there were 500 or more military units in different places so the big picture was lost on network news. The “news lens” was a little wider but they could not overcome the typical bent that would be applied when the “news” aired.

It really isn’t much different now. The news organizations want to parade the U.S. military dead to affect U.S. opinion. They don’t care about the U.S. military dead unless it can they can become a tool to affect U.S. opinion to suite the “network news” agenda.
I would dismantle the “network news” organizations in a heartbeat, but what do you get in return? The kids coming through “institutions of higher learning” have been indoctrinated to the politically correct left since kindergarten.

ODShowtime
07-23-2004, 03:35 PM
Fox News IS biased. Has anyone ever actually listened to those morons they have on in the morning? Jesus they're like Bush's personal cheerleaders.

And how come every fucking day at 5PM on the dot they have a "NEWS ALERT!!!!!!!"?

Sure for ratings and attention grabbing, but also to go with the Bush strategy of keeping everyone in the country scared shitless. There is not a real breaking news story every day at 5 o'clock sharp. Bullshit.

People, Fox "News" is propoganda.

FORD
07-23-2004, 06:41 PM
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Big Train
07-23-2004, 10:36 PM
OD tell me CNN, MSNBC and ABC>CBS>NBC are NOT biased.

It's the angle of the slant that bother liberals. End of story.

freak
07-23-2004, 10:50 PM
*The* thing that boils lthe liberal media's bottoms is that the other side is beating them in the ratings,

wraytw
07-23-2004, 11:43 PM
Did I just see FORD complain about "distorted rhetoric?" HAHA!

Wayne L.
07-25-2004, 09:17 AM
The major news networks like CBS, NBC & ABC as well as CNN & MSNBC are envious of FNC because it has the majority of the cable television viewers these days while it's more populist than conservative or liberal. This new anti-FNC documentary Outfoxed is just a by a disturbed guy on the left with too much time on his hands besides there has to another guy on the right with footage of CNN during the Clinton administration to answer this luducrious documentary. I don't care whether you're to the left or to the right politically but you have to be blind or gay or an idiot if you don't think the Fox News Channel has the hottest & sexiest newsbabes & my personal favorites are Kiran Chetry, Laurie Dhue, Page Hopkins & Martha McCallum.

diamondD
07-25-2004, 11:46 AM
MMMMM...Kiran Chetry...

John Ashcroft
07-25-2004, 09:52 PM
So, it seem our liberal friends have "conveniently" forgotten that Rupert Murdoch donated more to the Algore campaing than the Bush one in 2000...

Yep, he's a right-wing ideologue for sure!

ODShowtime
07-26-2004, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by Big Train
OD tell me CNN, MSNBC and ABC>CBS>NBC are NOT biased.

It's the angle of the slant that bother liberals. End of story.

Maybe I'm just so used to liberal bias that it doesn't bother me. But damn is it obvious that Fox takes their cues directly from the White House. There are numerous times that one of their anchors (not guests) said things about Bush antagonists that just screamed of bias. It sticks out like a sore thumb because it's usually complete bullshit.

But... Kiran Chechny or however you spell that vapid scenery chewer's name... is really hot. That's why it's funny when you hear her report her opinion on stuff. The problem is that the busheep take that shit seriously!

When this documentary was announced I was so excited that I wasn't the only one who saw this. Too bad it sounds like the director fucked up. Too many holes in his logic and quotes taken out of context. It could have been useful...

That's why F911 is so monumental, because that shit really did happen.

Big Train
07-26-2004, 04:36 PM
Posted by OD:

That's why it's funny when you hear her report her opinion on stuff. The problem is that the busheep take that shit seriously!

I still don't understand why everyone is in a tizzy about it. We take it seriously because we agree with it. It's not like anyone "Doesn't notice it". It is so extremely arrogant when liberals say stupid shit like that, like only they have the X-ray glasses and we are all sheep. I see it and agree with it. If I turn on CNN, I see it and disagree with it. At this time in history, there are more of me than not, hence Fox's popularity.

Both "Outfoxed" and "F911" are flaming pieces of election year garbage. It's not like you can't find the exact same "Evidence" about any other news channel. I would make a documentary on CNN or the network news, but no sensible conservative would finance me. They know how much money we would lose talking about those black holes of charisma...

FORD
07-26-2004, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by Big Train

Both "Outfoxed" and "F911" are flaming pieces of election year garbage. It's not like you can't find the exact same "Evidence" about any other news channel. I would make a documentary on CNN or the network news, but no sensible conservative would finance me. They know how much money we would lose talking about those black holes of charisma...

If that traitorous American hating piece of shit coward Dickhead Mellon Scaife wasted millions on creating Clinton scandals and paying for trailer trash whores' plastic surgery, he would probably finance such a project . Except that CNN has also been pro-BCE (though slightly to the left of FAUX) and bears very little resemblance to the network created by Ted Turner in the late 80's. Then again, AO-Hell (located right down the street from the CIA) never was accused of being a "liberal" corporation.

Big Train
07-27-2004, 03:55 AM
Ford, do me a favor and shut the fuck up about the BCE.

I asked you to spell it out for me who they were (Looking at you Lucky Wilbury...) and you have not. I asked you which news outlets to watch that weren't biased, you didn't respond. You can't come up with a straight answer for anything, so why are you continuing to talk about this bullshit BCE?