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ELVIS
07-23-2004, 06:24 PM
Jul. 23, 2004



Linda Ronstadt's political message sent close to a hundred concert-goers home early Thursday evening. (http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/9224649.htm?ERIGHTS=8452337687407047353contracosta times::anymouse69@go.com&KRD_RM=4moroorkqlrkmkkkkkkkkkklpk|Any|Y)

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What had been a mellow evening at Wente Vineyards, with the crowd even serenading her with "Happy Birthday" at one point, turned into a rush for the exits by some fans angry by her encore tribute to filmmaker Michael Moore.

"She just had to do it," one fan steamed as he headed for the parking lot. "It was good until the end," another yelled to TV crews waiting outside the concert.

"She's getting out of line; it's ridiculous," said Cindy Williams of Livermore, as she left during the last song of the evening.

Ronstadt's encore dedication of the song "Desperado" to Moore, the controversial maker of "Fahrenheit 9/11" who she described Thursday as "a great American patriot," got her booted from a Las Vegas casino Saturday and drew cheers, some boos, and a few "traitor" yells from the Livermore crowd.

Until that last song, the concert had been an evening of good music and happy fans.

There was no shortage of conflicting opinions among the baby-boomer crowd, a sprinkling of them dressed in patriotic colors, but it was no referendum on the war in Iraq, no pro- or anti-Bush lovefest, or even a meeting of the Michael Moore fan club.

Concert-goers, who paid from $99 to $249 each for tickets, were well aware of the controversy, but said they just wanted to enjoy the songs.

"I love her music, but I hate her politics, and I hope she just sings," said Tina Uzelac of Livermore, who arrived wearing a flag sweater. "These tickets are pretty high-priced, and we're not paying to go to a political rally."

On Saturday, Ronstadt was booed by some audience members at the Aladdin hotel-casino, then booted from the hotel by management after dedicating her "Desperado" encore to Moore and his film,, which excoriates President Bush over the war in Iraq.

Ronstadt won over the Livermore crowd after her first jazzy number, backed by the Baltimore Symphony Orchestra.

"Normally we end the show with 'Desperado,' but tonight we'll end with 'Viva Las Vegas,'" the singer said, drawing laughs, a long, warm cheer and a few grunts from the crowd of 1,750.

"There are too many Republicans in Vegas," Mike Donnelly of Clayton said before the show. "I think the response (to her remarks) has been ridiculous and ludicrous."

Corey and Susan Tate of Livermore came to the concert with a gift for Ronstadt -- an American flag, with a note on its paper wrapper: "To Linda, a patriot. Bless you."

"I've been listening to Linda since 1967. She has been a standard-bearer for liberal causes, and I'm glad she spoke up ... People like her represent America; it's not just people with conservative views," Corey Tate said.

The controversy created a sellout, said Wente president Carolyn Wente.

About 20 people angered by Ronstadt's comments dropped plans to attend, but their traded-in tickets were snatched up and the show was sold out Wednesday.

"It was just a handful (turning in tickets) when you consider there are 1,700 folks coming," Wente said before the show.

Wente said she did not ask Ronstadt to refrain from any political comments.

"We don't take any position on any of our artists' political thoughts or perceptions," she said.

With her comments Saturday, Ronstadt became the latest liberal musician to use the stage for political views, and another to suffer conservative backlash.

• In March 2003, Dixie Chicks lead singer Natalie Maines' comments against Bush and the Iraq war triggered a boycott by a group of more than 200 radio stations.

• At a recent John Kerry fund-raiser, actress Whoopi Goldberg made several crude puns on Bush's name, and complaints led to her firing as a spokeswoman for Florida-based Slim-Fast.



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Pink Spider
07-23-2004, 06:47 PM
Bad publicity is still more publicity than she's gotten in 20 years. Good career move. :)

ELVIS
07-23-2004, 06:52 PM
Yeah.. her manager is probably telling her to milk it for all it's worth...

Bad move I think. She's not dealing with a teenage audience...

diamondD
07-23-2004, 09:03 PM
Yeah, but when't the last time you've heard her name 2x in one week? She's only able to draw a couple of thousand apparantly and now she'll draw out the loonies that think Michael Moore is a hero. They won't be there to applaud her music, just her opinion.

Big Train
07-23-2004, 10:34 PM
There are many ways to cash out your career and for her this might be the best fit. Her manager probably thought "THis is great. We can get cred with the alt kids who think Loretta Lynn and Johnny Cash are hip". The only difference is that they had credibility prior to becoming popular again.

monkeythe
07-24-2004, 12:35 AM
1,750 people paying $99 - $250 per ticket. Did they confuse the attendance numbers with a Van Hagar reunion show?

FORD
07-24-2004, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by diamondD
Yeah, but when't the last time you've heard her name 2x in one week? She's only able to draw a couple of thousand apparantly and now she'll draw out the loonies that think Michael Moore is a hero. They won't be there to applaud her music, just her opinion.

Yeah maybe, but on the other hand, right wingers are buying tickets so they can sit there in a flag sweater (sweater in the middle of JULY????) and stage a big demonstration the minute Linda exercizes her right to free speech.

It's more or less the equivalent of buying tickets to a Van Hagar concert just so you can yell out "Sammy Sucks Ass" when they play "When It's Cheese". Sure it might feel good to yell at the Chedmaster - but you just wasted a lot of money to do so.

ELVIS
07-24-2004, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Yeah maybe, but on the other hand, right wingers are buying tickets so they can sit there in a flag sweater (sweater in the middle of JULY????) and stage a big demonstration the minute Linda exercizes her right to free speech.



Just make the bullshit up as you go along, eh FORD ???


:rolleyes:

FORD
07-24-2004, 03:25 PM
Make up the bullshit?

You ever read the "Free Republic" website? This kind of shit is exactly what they do. Send out a few of their operatives to "liberal" events where they can make some big scene and then create stories in the right wing media about "outrage at those damn commie libruls". They fucking BRAG about the shit. Even invented their own word for it ("Freeping")

They are no different than Nazi brownshirts, or this busload of goons that Tom DeLay bussed into Miami for the 2000 Coup. (Look for similar staged events in Boston next week)

Phil theStalker
07-24-2004, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Yeah maybe, but on the other hand, right wingers are buying tickets so they can sit there in a flag sweater (sweater in the middle of JULY????) and stage a big demonstration the minute Linda exercizes her right to free speech.

It's more or less the equivalent of buying tickets to a Van Hagar concert just so you can yell out "Sammy Sucks Ass" when they play "When It's Cheese". Sure it might feel good to yell at the Chedmaster - but you just wasted a lot of money to do so.
..dat's sexactly wot's happuned..



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ELVIS
07-24-2004, 04:40 PM
A Linda Ronstadt concert can hardly be classified as a "liberal event".

Get a life

FORD
07-24-2004, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
A Linda Ronstadt concert can hardly be classified as a "liberal event".

Get a life

If she's speaking against the BCE and in favor of Michael Moore, even for 5 minutes, then the Freepazoids consider that every bit as political as a Kerry campaign speech.

JCOOK
07-26-2004, 02:17 PM
She used to be such a hot piece of azz