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FORD
07-26-2004, 09:55 PM
Rock Royalty to Join Voices Against Bush With Fall Concerts

By Geoff Boucher
Times Staff Writer

July 25, 2004

Bruce Springsteen, Neil Young, R.E.M., Pearl Jam and a deep roster of other rock stars will unite for politically minded concerts this fall that will give voice to dissatisfaction with the Bush administration.

The all-star rock shows, which are expected to begin in October and target campaign swing states, are in the planning stage but were confirmed by half a dozen music industry sources who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Insiders disagree on the unifying rhythm of the celebrity coalition. Some say it is the promise of the John F. Kerry candidacy, but at least one emphasizes the fear of President Bush's reelection. "There is a range of feeling about Kerry," the source said, "but a uniform belief that Bush must go."

The tour turns up the volume of the rock scene's role in politics, but it is not the only example of an apparent surge of commentary among artists. Rockers seem virtually unanimous in their anti-Bush stance, just as country music has seen a wave of passionate patriotism and support for the president, exemplified by the songs of Toby Keith.

MTV has been showing a video by the British dance-pop outfit Faithless that features a teen shipped off to Iraq only to return home wounded and disillusioned. Representing a different generation, Tom Waits and John Fogerty have recorded songs about Iraq. For Waits, it's the first political song of his four-decade career; for Fogerty, it's a return to his Vietnam-era songs such as "Who'll Stop the Rain."

Elsewhere, rapper Sean "P. Diddy" Combs is steering a new voter registration drive, and the usually bratty punk-pop band Green Day has said its next album will be a political concept piece. Steve Earle has a new album laced with songs about Iraq and Bush and even a mocking valentine to national security advisor Condoleezza Rice. Blues player Keb Mo has an upcoming album of peace songs, including John Lennon's "Imagine" and Buffalo Springfield's "For What It's Worth."

Introducing political commentary into music is sometimes a risky prospect — even if it's just a passing reference.

Last weekend, Linda Ronstadt was booed in Las Vegas for praising a Bush nemesis, filmmaker Michael Moore, while Ozzy Osbourne relented to critics and removed concert imagery that showed Bush and Hitler together on an overhead screen.

The countercultural mind-set and recklessness once at the core of rock music now seem relegated to the distant past, Elton John told Interview magazine. He said that protest had often given way to strict careerism in this corporate age.

"There's an atmosphere of fear in America right now, and that is deadly," John said. "Everyone is too career-conscious. They're all too scared…. Things have changed."

Tom Morello, guitarist with Rage Against the Machine and once a staffer to the late California Democratic Sen. Alan Cranston, is a veteran of politics-meets-rock. "I'm not surprised you're seeing this music being made, and I'm not surprised it's connecting with an audience," he said. "It's not just people who write songs — carpenters, teachers, everyone is ready for a regime change."

Morello was cited by some sources as a probable participant in the concert series, but he declined to confirm plans for the shows.

No album or song is likely to capture as much media attention as the concerts involving Springsteen in swing states, which are expected to take place in arenas.

Organizers have been tight-lipped since discussions of the idea caught the ears of some of the stars in April. At the end of last week, the formal announcement was scheduled for Aug. 4 in New York.

Other artists expected to join the lineup include Earle, the Dave Matthews Band, the Dixie Chicks, Bright Eyes, Ani DiFranco, Death Cab for Cutie and International Noise Conspiracy. There also are reports that Bob Dylan and James Taylor may be part of the bill.

The shows reportedly will benefit several organizations, chief among them MoveOn.org, the advocacy group that champions a liberal agenda through Web-based grass-roots efforts.

All-star concerts to raise money for philanthropic or political causes have become a tradition. The template goes back to 1971 with George Harrison's Concert for Bangladesh and the no-nukes shows of 1980 that featured Springsteen and such artists as Taylor, Jackson Browne and Carly Simon.

Organizers have tried to keep the fall shows under wraps to spotlight the official announcement. Springsteen's manager, Jon Landau, declined to discuss the shows, and Young's manager, Elliot Roberts, did not return calls. When Bertis Downs, who manages R.E.M., was asked about the band's fundraising plans, he replied, "I can't talk about that."

R.E.M became one of the first bands to criticize the war in Iraq when it posted a song on its website in March 2003, the month of the invasion.

Others now joining the critical chorus include the Beastie Boys, a Perfect Circle and Jay Farrar, the alternative-country rocker who said Saturday that he resisted political messages in the past because the topic didn't fit his sensibilities.

But now, he said, he would feel derelict if he didn't speak up. "And there will be a lot more artists doing the same thing if Bush gets reelected."

link (http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-concert25jul25,1,7369160,print.story?coll=la-home-headlines)

John Ashcroft
07-26-2004, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Insiders disagree on the unifying rhythm of the celebrity coalition. Some say it is the promise of the John F. Kerry candidacy, but at least one emphasizes the fear of President Bush's reelection. "There is a range of feeling about Kerry," the source said, "but a uniform belief that Bush must go."

And that about sums it up. And I guarantee that it's alot more than "at least one"... (otherwise it wouldn't be mentioned)

No one is energized by Kerry, not even these has-been clowns (but who knows, maybe they can dig up a guy like Sammy Hagar for a reunion tour to get the old "spark" back...) And like I've mentioned countless times before, running on hate is a losing proposition. America doesn't change horses mid-stream unless the opposing candidate has a vision that resonates with a majority of Americans. Does Kerry have such a vision? Even the rabid anti-Bush crowd can't admit that he does.

Yep, get ready for another Dubya term. And this one will be by a hell of alot more than 500 votes, I promise ya. And then what will you guys do? Riot? Cry? Whine? (well that's for sure...)

How about just move?

Big Train
07-26-2004, 10:45 PM
It's a shame Van Hagar is on tour, Shammy could have joined onto this "Tour to be Relevant One More Time". It is so sad to watch. I used to have respect for some of these acts. Just shut the fuck up and vote already...I don't need Neil Young or his lapdogs Pearl Jam "rockin' in the free world" to tell me what to think. This is a shame sheep tour period. They must have saw the soundscan for "Rock against Bush Vol 1" and said "hey, I can do that" (Not to mention, I wonder where the proceeds of that CD REALLY went...Ford, any leads?).

These old hippie farts need to realize how retarted they look and how empty they are in the head. And I quote:

Insiders disagree on the unifying rhythm of the celebrity coalition. Some say it is the promise of the John F. Kerry candidacy, but at least one emphasizes the fear of President Bush's reelection. "There is a range of feeling about Kerry," the source said, "but a uniform belief that Bush must go."

So the ONLY idea these political geniuses could come up with is "Bush needs to get out". So J. Kerry is just standing there, let's plug him in. He has no idea what the fuck he is talking about, but neither do we and look at us.

Fuck them all..

ELVIS
07-26-2004, 10:56 PM
"Politically minded concerts" is an oxymoron...:rolleyes:

Wayne L.
07-27-2004, 07:57 AM
If the whining second rate frontman Michael Stipe of REM is against President Bush then you know he will win a second term easily.

John Ashcroft
07-27-2004, 08:37 AM
Hey, check this out guys. It's an online voting tally (and of course not entirely accurate), but it tracks your IP so you can't vote multiple times (at least from the same PC, Ford, I know, I know...).

Anyway, shows Dubya ahead by quite a bit (at least electorally)

here it is (http://www.softvote.com/daily_chart.php)

Warham
07-27-2004, 08:44 AM
I don't have any respect for Bon Jovi, but can I just say that he's a cunt?