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Fabulous Shadow
08-24-2004, 11:33 PM
Beer in Aluminum Bottles on the Way
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PITTSBURGH - How much would you pay for a bottle of beer that stays cold nearly an hour longer? Pittsburgh Brewing Co., maker of Iron City Beer, is asking an additional $1 per case.

The brewery has partnered with Alcoa Inc., the world's largest aluminum maker, to produce aluminum bottles that keep beer colder for as much as 50 minutes longer than a glass bottle, Alcoa officials said.

About 20,000 cases of the new aluminum bottle beer are en route to as many as 28 states and should be on shelves this week, Alcoa and Pittsburgh Brewing said Tuesday.

The bottles have three times the aluminum of a typical beer can. That gives them superior insulation, Alcoa spokesman Kevin Lowery said.

It's not the first time Alcoa has teamed up with the local brewery to put out a new product. In 1962, the two put the first pull-tab beer cans on shelves, freeing beer drinkers of the need to carry openers with them.

"We think it's much better than a can and as good or better than glass," said Joe Piccirilli, vice chairman for Pittsburgh Brewing. "There's no doubt in my mind that this has the same potential as the pull tab we did with Alcoa."

Iron City wants to expand sales. But the aluminum bottle may be more important to Alcoa. The aluminum giant wants to win back a share of the market it lost to beer bottles - both glass and plastic, which are now common at sporting events nationwide.

About 40 percent of all beer consumed comes out of cans, 43 percent from bottles and 8 percent from the tap, according to the Beer Institute, which tracks industry trends. Bottles, however, have gained ground over the past decade.

Plastic bottles make up only 0.5 percent of all beer sales, according to the Beer Institute. But having aluminum bottles at sporting events would introduce the product to thousands, who might buy a case for home.

Pittsburgh Brewing said it won't drop glass bottles or cans from production.

Some people say they can taste the difference between beer in cans and bottles.

Lew Bryson, an author of two books on breweries, said those complaints are psychological, since the aluminum is coated. But, he said, there may be a lingering taste when the seal of an aluminum can is broken.

The aluminum bottle could eliminate that, he said.

One microbrewery based in Missoula, Mont., has been using aluminum bottles. Heineken released a limited edition aluminum bottle last year.

Aluminum bottles also have proven successful for a few breweries in Japan, but Iron City is the first company in North America to ship the bottles nationally, company officials said.

Alcoa and brewery officials say the biggest selling point of the bottle may be its appearance.

Bryson agreed, and said plastic bottles have also been problematic at some bottling plants because they are lighter than glass and can become jumbled.

But he said the advantages may not outweigh the price.

"It seems a bit like an answer in search of a question," he said.

Pittsburgh Brewing said aluminum bottles cost more than twice than glass - about a nickel more per beer - but Alcoa and the brewery said the cost will come down if other beer companies follow suit.

Pittsburgh Brewing, which sells about 6 million cases of beer annually, has opened a six-figure marketing campaign to try to make the idea stick.

"I think in the next 12 to 18 months, more people are going to get into this like we are," said Piccirilli. "We're not kicking the tires."

guwapo_rocker
08-25-2004, 12:01 AM
I think they should try and make some decent beer first

and worry about the bottles later!!

lms2
08-25-2004, 12:07 AM
LMAO

You don't like beer? Not even an ice cold Michelob Ultra on a hot summers day?

I don't like beer from a can-it is not psychological, you really "can" taste the difference. I also don't like hot beer.

Either way, the six pack I drink every year probably isn't going to matter much.

guwapo_rocker
08-25-2004, 12:17 AM
Don't like American beer.

Sorry guys and gals but it sucks!!

lms2
08-25-2004, 12:38 AM
So is Canadian beer better? Or do you not like beer at all?

guwapo_rocker
08-25-2004, 12:45 AM
Canadian beer is very good! Yes I quite enjoy beer.

lms2
08-25-2004, 12:46 AM
But do you drink it from a can?

guwapo_rocker
08-25-2004, 12:54 AM
Originally posted by lms2
But do you drink it from a can?

Is that an American custom? Sometimes when we drink too

much it ends up in the can, but geez that's kinda odd.....:D

lms2
08-25-2004, 12:56 AM
ROTFLMAO so if you drink WAY too much, where does it end up?

guwapo_rocker
08-25-2004, 12:59 AM
Originally posted by lms2
ROTFLMAO so if you drink WAY too much, where does it end up?

I try not to do that, but on someone else is a pretty good bet.:D

lms2
08-25-2004, 01:03 AM
eewww, thats just gross. So when guwapo_rocker says "piss on you", watch out. Is this a Canadian thing, or a personal one?

guwapo_rocker
08-25-2004, 01:10 AM
Originally posted by lms2
eewww, thats just gross. So when guwapo_rocker says "piss on you", watch out. Is this a Canadian thing, or a personal one?

I'm not talking about pee:D Drink any amount of beer and you

will have to pee, drink to much and you will....

lms2
08-25-2004, 01:22 AM
Oh, okay. Well eewww anyway.

Cathedral
08-25-2004, 04:31 AM
Originally posted by guwapo_rocker
I'm not talking about pee:D Drink any amount of beer and you

will have to pee, drink to much and you will....

Give ourselves a swirly? lmmfao.

My drinks come from a Crown Royal bottle and a 2 litre of Coke.

I think beer is all nasty tasting and much too filling.

twonabomber
08-26-2004, 07:45 PM
what do you expect? it's Pittsburgh. everything is fucked up there.