THE Ohio State University Chatter

[POJO_Risin]

Alright...#9 ranked (to high if you ask me) OSU chose Justin Zwick over Troy Smith as the starter...but said they'd start the season sharing the position...

Now Zwick was the #1 rated passer the year he was recruited...which...by the way...was Smith's first year as well...Smith ranked 5 nationally...and was the QB that not only handed the ball of to Clarett in high school...but also gave them a 1/2 punch with a great arm...and good receivers...

Many think Smith is the better of the two...just wasn't as nationally renowned because Clarett played on the same team...

Clarett's high school coach said Maurice looked awfully good because of that QB back there...there isn't anyone more talented...

we shall see...

it's going to be a building year for my Bucks...but it's good to have QB issues...they are both winners...and are better pure throwers than Krenzel...

the question is...are they winners?

[Va Beach VH Fan]

** Crickets Chirping **

LOL, I can't talk any shit.... PSU is going to be lousy again this year....

[POJO_Risin]

Alright...I got a call in today Va...looks like I might have a line on tix...they aren't going to be free as I was hoping...but alumni price...whatever that means...

I'll let you know...probably know by tomorrow...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Cool...

[rustoffa]

Sooner or later.....they'll be #1 again......
:D

[redblkwht]

I got oct 23rd game at OSU..i may have a pair extra
lemme know asap bro's.im booking my flight soon..

as long as Mich goes down im good ;)

[High Life Man]

Don't make us kick your ass again.

Chumps.

;)

[POJO_Risin]

Oy...Wisconsin...

they try so hard to be legit...

Once or twice every five years isn't so bad though High Life...

[POJO_Risin]

OSU played a little haphazard today...Zwick didn't look that good...

Lydell Ross looked fantastic...and so did Antonio Pittman...

looks like we have a running game again...

We'll see...

[ALinChainz]

Originally posted by redblkwht
I got oct 23rd game at OSU..i may have a pair extra
lemme know asap bro's.im booking my flight soon..

as long as Mich goes down im good ;)

Not today my Roth bros ...

:D

Not that I was worried. But a nice tune up for next week.

[POJO_Risin]

What was the freshman doing in there bro? I though that kid from California was a stud?

[ALinChainz]

Out of nowhere, the shoulder ... right at game time.

I about shit really.

[POJO_Risin]

Well...the kid looked good...

shoulder? How serious?

Zwick threw 2 pics for OSU...but Smith looked damn good...cannon for an arm..only threw 3 passes...but a deep one to Santonio Holmes...y'all better get two corners to cover him...

[POJO_Risin]

I thought Oklahoma looked okay today...but nothing special...Bowling Green is good....but they put to many points on the board...against that D...

should be an interesting year...overall...

[ALinChainz]

I think he will be ready for Notre Dame next week.

He still held kicks.

[POJO_Risin]

An interesting decision overall if you ask me...there has to be more to it than what they are saying...a sore arm...the first week of the year?

C'mon...this is big 10 football...grow a jock...

I say let the rook start...first one since fucking Rick Leach...to start for Michigan as a rookie...

Maybe he'll be a player for the Blue Jays someday?

[POJO_Risin]

Hmmm...the new Buckeyes?

Zwick...10 for 17 in the first half...for 258 yards...

Santonio Holmes...7 catches for 199 yards...

WOW...both have to be on pace to break some old ass OSU records...

[POJO_Risin]

Ohio State could be in some trouble next week coming down here to NCState...

could be in a lot of trouble...even IF they beat Marshall...and that's a big if...

After the parking lot shooting...you aren't allowed to enter the parking lot unless you have a ticket...

so I ask this...say you live in Ohio...and have to pick up your tickets at the box office?

LMFAO...these fucking rednecks are morons...

[POJO_Risin]

So the OSU/Marshall game is 21-21...OSU with the ball...

and I'm fucking sitting here with the goddamned Virgina/UNC game...

with Virginia WINNING BY FUCKING 30...

ACC Football...fucking joke...

56-24 Virginia...

[POJO_Risin]

Okay...OSU is tied up...with the ball on the 20...8 1/2 minutes to go...

Santonio Holmes has been unstoppable...but had the fumble that tied the game...

catch-22...

we need a big one right here...

interesting that OSU went soley to this passing offense...

a new era...

[POJO_Risin]

Jesus H. Christ...Zwick with a pick...

Marshall with the ball...1st and 10 from their own 40...damn it...

but hey...I get to see the end of North Carolina Virgina...the faggots...

[POJO_Risin]

Jesus...it looks like Overtime....against fucking Marshall...oy...

[POJO_Risin]

OSU may be able to sneak out of here with a win before the end of the game...

driving 17 seconds left...1 TO...and tie game...

[POJO_Risin]

Alright...it looks like a Nugent attempt from 50 yards...with six seconds left...

[POJO_Risin]

Or not...an OSU penalty...drops OSU back five yards...jesus christ...

so a heave into the endzone then...

[POJO_Risin]

Holy mother of fuck...

Nugent made the 55 yarder...

All-American Kickers...

they are...

fantastic...

just ask Florida State...;)

[redblkwht]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
Hmmm...the new Buckeyes?

Zwick...10 for 17 in the first half...for 258 yards...

Santonio Holmes...7 catches for 199 yards...

WOW...both have to be on pace to break some old ass OSU records... This is the shit im all about, a young team jelling..
i dont expect a huge year, but soon enough!

[POJO_Risin]

Well...remember this Eyes...

Tressel's coaching style breeds close games...

I'm a might concerned about the defense...

but when you have a kicker like Nugent...

fuck...you are going to win some games with special teams...

[High Life Man]

I partied with Nugent's dad a couple of years ago. He was cool.

[redblkwht]

Originally posted by High Life Man
I partied with Nugent's dad a couple of years ago. He was cool. we exchanged bowls, he smoked more than his son!
LMAO, J/K..

[High Life Man]

Originally posted by redblkwht
we exchanged bowls, he smoked more than his son!
LMAO, J/K..


HA!

Booze only. I don't smoke weed.

Good guy. He put up with our razzing.

[redblkwht]

High Life, I WAS kidding..when you coming to chi town again?
BTW Bears/GB this weekend, hopefully its a good enough game
to watch..lol

[POJO_Risin]

Get that damn pro shit out of this thread damn it...

OSU with a tough one this week...at NC State...

of course...those bastards have been taking interviews all week about how they are going to win...

nothing like some shit to post in the locker room...

bunch of redneck morons...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

NCSU's a 3 point favorite...

Gimme OSU and the points...

[POJO_Risin]

Well...

Zwick's first game on the road...

and State is pumped...

Jay Davis has all of 30 minutes under his belt for NCState...

but they had a week off to prepare...

of course...OSU wasn't in session...so they had 2 a days...;)...

should be a great game...

tickets going for nearly $300 a pop now...

[POJO_Risin]

I've watched most of this game through fast forward on my VCR...and it looks like a relatively decent defensive battle....won by the sharks...

and that's OSU's defense...they flock to the ball...don't break...and wait for their moment to jump on you...and Davis has folded like the bitch he is...

looks like a lot of loud mouth "State" fans here in Raleigh we'll get a fucking MOUTHFUL...from a real STATE fan...THE...OHIO STATE...

ACC football...it's shit-tastic...

morons...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Pretty sloppy game, but NCST really made some bonehead mistakes...

And OSU capitalized on most of them....

[POJO_Risin]

Well...on the road...that's what you have to do...

win ugly...

and that's what they did...

OSU has an inexperienced QB...and virtually no rushing attack...so I don't suspect they'll win this year...

but next?...different story...

I like the way they play....and it works...

good coaching...good game plan...a bit of team speed on defense...and they find a way...

seems to be the trademark of Tressel...

[POJO_Risin]

And fucking Nugent baby...

top 3 rounder perhaps?...

[redblkwht]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
And fucking Nugent baby...

top 3 rounder perhaps?...
I say hell yeah, he will be a pro for sure.
I laugh every time i see that coach with those lame assed sunglasses
joe peschi wanna be, what a putz!
glad they won, michigan escaped another upset.:mad:

[POJO_Risin]

Fucking Michigan...what a conjob they are this year...lmfao...picked to win the big 10 my ass...

OSU is far from it as well...

[redblkwht]

ALOT of the writers are picking Purdue bro, i heard that on espn
radio..lol

[POJO_Risin]

They may be right...

cuz I know it aint gonna be Wisconsin...

[redblkwht]

Fuck them cheesheads man, they will go down again.
Zwick needs to settle down a bit, thats all i see.

[POJO_Risin]

NC State dominated both sides of the ball...

OSU won that game because of strategy and field position...typical Tressell...

Zwick is solid...but if they can't run the ball...they aren't going to be a factor in the national scene...although I still think they can win the Big 11...

[High Life Man]

Since it has been awhile since I stopped in here, I guess it was my tingling Spidey senses that told me to stop back.

And what do I find? Two poseurs ripping on the Badgers. ;) Well fuck you two!

Won't be in Chicago for awhile bro.

And yes, there has been a rash of suicides since Sunday.

[POJO_Risin]

LMFAO High Life...good to see you as always...

Oughta be an interesting year...certainly an open race this year...

Hope all is well at DDLR.com....

Spidey sense...lmfao...

[POJO_Risin]

Hey High Life...do me a favor and ask DDKY how Couch is doing?

[High Life Man]

HA!

Couch sucks. Funny how DDKY disappeared about the same time Couch did...

So Oct. 9 should be a great Saturday for us...have you seen our D yet?

[POJO_Risin]

I actually haven't...

what do you mean DDKY disappeared?

Is everything cool with him?

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Originally posted by High Life Man
have you seen our D yet?

You mean the one that almost lost to the lowly Penn State ???

[POJO_Risin]

LMFAO...

the smack talk commences...

Maybe PSU is a hidden juggernaut?

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Like I said bro, they'll be back...

You know they will...

[POJO_Risin]

This is starting to sound like classic VH reunion talk...

"they'll be back...you know they will..."

[twonabomber]

Originally posted by High Life Man

Couch sucks. Funny how DDKY disappeared about the same time Couch did...



you know, now that you mention it...you're right. wonder if he built a shrine around that bobblehead yet.

[POJO_Risin]

LMFAO...wait a second...

DDKY isn't around anymore?

Shit man...quality guy there...hope that isn't true...

Back to OSU...lmfao...

[twonabomber]

i think the DDKY thing is work related, nothing major.

[POJO_Risin]

That's cool...hope all is well...

Other than the Couch deal...;)

[Honeyhunter]

It is time….Hurricanes my blow the penis of our country around…they may blow my trailer off of its blocks….but when they cross the GA state line they become tropical depressions…and that is bad news for the Miami Thugaines….anyone know how to get a flash light out of a 300 lb woman’s hind end…?

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by Honeyhunter
It is time….Hurricanes my blow the penis of our country around…they may blow my trailer off of its blocks….but when they cross the GA state line they become tropical depressions…and that is bad news for the Miami Thugaines….anyone know how to get a flash light out of a 300 lb woman’s hind end…?

You goin' down to Bobby Odd stadium tomorrow?
Lord help the little swingin' bees!

[POJO_Risin]

LMFAO...somehow this thread has taken a turn...

[Honeyhunter]

I hope to make it down there and get me and my ole lady some chilidogs….but who knows there way too many skinnies around that place…..i feel safer in my trailer…ohhhh so today at 330 in Atlanta one of my ole buddies is going to be on judge Joe Brown….he keyed some dudes car that poking his mother….back to football…UT the voll's suck dog shi&…I hate them inbreed peter puffers…..i wish that crappy looking hound dog would tear into Fullmers ball sack…I hate that slob….but if you put a wig on him I may poke it…

[rustoffa]

So the Varsity first eh? Fuckin' ay!

Just stay away from the tunnels bro....don't go to the wendys after the game either.

A wig on Fulmer? And you might poke it?

GOODGOOGLYMOOGLY!!!!

[POJO_Risin]

And even more and more into a strange direction...

[POJO_Risin]

Jesus H. Christ...

Ohio State is going to lose to fucking Northwestern...

fucking hell...

You see Va...THAT'S rebuilding...lmfao...

[POJO_Risin]

Fucking Northwestern...you have got to be kidding me...

[POJO_Risin]

MOTHERFUCKERS...OSU WITH AN INTERCEPTION...

THEN THAT FUCKER ZWICK SACKED FOR A 13 YARD LOSS...

3rd and Goal from the fucking 20...

OSU down 7 to the worst team in the Big 10...fuck...

[POJO_Risin]

And fucking Zwick is picked...

goddamned moron...goddamned moron...

Ah well...looks like PSU-OSU will be interesting again this year...

because they both suck...

can't honestly believe OSU was ranked 7th...anyways...

[POJO_Risin]

Ohio State ties the game...

might I remind you...Northwestern sucks...

which doesn't bode well for OSU whatever happens...

fucking Northwestern...christ...

[POJO_Risin]

OSU...Overtime with NorthfuckingWestern...

Ode to the Gary Barnett days...

Hmmm...I wonder if his players there raped everyone there as well....

Overtime with NorthfuckingWestern...

I hope the fuckers lose...lmfao...

Northwestern...

DO YOU THINK THERE ARE NORTHWESTERN FANS IN THE WORLD?

[POJO_Risin]

Christ...Nugent MISSED A 40 YARDER...NOOOOOOO!!!!!

Northwestern's going to fucking win...goddamnit all anyhow...

[POJO_Risin]

Yep...on the OSU 4 yard line...it's only a matter of time...

fuckin' Northwestern juggernaut...lmfao...

[ALinChainz]

Ouch.

Northwestern.

:D

Go ... Blue?

[Rebel]

It was a good game, not much of an OSU fan, but NW did play hard.

[POJO_Risin]

Fuck Michigan...lmfao...bastards...;)

[ALinChainz]

LOL

Always a good day for me when OSU, Notre Dame, and Michigan St. lose.

And Michigan wins.

[POJO_Risin]

I hope we lose them all...

but one...;)

will make that victory all the sweeter...;)

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
Jesus H. Christ...

Ohio State is going to lose to fucking Northwestern...

fucking hell...

You see Va...THAT'S rebuilding...lmfao...

[[ snicker ]]

[[ snicker ]]

[[ snicker ]]

[POJO_Risin]

Looks like the Penn State/OSU game will be better than I thought it would be...

OSU's D let up a shiteload of big plays on 3rd down...

killed them...and the offense has to get it together before the 4th quarter...

[High Life Man]

Get ready for another one next weekend!

See you there!

;)

[POJO_Risin]

LMFAO...

they were looking ahead to Wisconsin...yeah...that must be it...lmfao...

[redblkwht]

Let the wisconsin OSU trash talk begin..
I dont see Wisc as a big 10 winner for sure, ill say it again, it
will be perdue..lmao woulda ever thunk that? LMAO

[POJO_Risin]

Look...Purdue looked good yesterday...
but High Life will be the first to tell you...

Weird things happen to the fucking Big 10...

WHO KNOWS who will win...

Don't count out OSU, Michigan or Wisconsin...

and look out for Minnesota...

[High Life Man]

Don't forget who has the #1 defense in the country right now either!

Purdue squeaked by Illinois a couple weeks back. They are beatable.

[POJO_Risin]

Oh...I know Purdue is beatable...

and um...no offense...but #1 defenses in the country are ALWAYS related to who you play...

I think Wisconsin IS underrated...but...there defense is no way the #1 defense in the country...the stats are inflated because they've played a bunch of hacks...

[redblkwht]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
Oh...I know Purdue is beatable...

and um...no offense...but #1 defenses in the country are ALWAYS related to who you play...

I think Wisconsin IS underrated...but...there defense is no way the #1 defense in the country...the stats are inflated because they've played a bunch of hacks... Justified post, he's right & look
beatable this week at the shoe..lol-
father-in laws going..id kill to see this game live!

[POJO_Risin]

Well...OSU's brand of football worked well 2 years ago...because their D was top 2 in the country...(based on shutting down Miami--an offensive juggernaut...not necesarily the stats)...and they had the offensive parts...mainly Clarett, Jenkins and Krenzel that could run that field possession offense...

Now...they have no fucking rushing game to speak of...they have a cannon-armed qb...and speed receivers...a young offensive line...and what...8 new players on Defense?

OSU didn't make many mistakes the past 2 years...now they will...because of youth...and a different makeup...

I will be curious to see if Tressel shapes this team in his possession O...or open the fucker up as the season progresses...

I'm guessing the former...

of course...without a running game...it could be a long season...

[POJO_Risin]

Wisconsin does have a good D...

but...

I don't know that shutting down OSU's offense is the question...

if OSU plays the field possession game...and is effective...as they are 75% of the time...

the game will be close...and OSU will win...

if they make mistakes...Wisconsin will win...

the key is the D...they have to hold up the Wisconsin O...IE...allow OSU to get the ball in good field possession...

if Wisconsin spends a good part of the day near midfield...it could be ugly...

[redblkwht]

If its close at halftime, OSU will win..
id like to see them open it up, they looked pretty
effective that way.

[ALinChainz]

Wisconsin leads the nation in defense don't they?

Ouch.

:D

[POJO_Risin]

Ohio State can make anyone's defense look like the nation's best...

utterly pathetic...

Penn State is better...

Wisconsin isn't that good...Good teams would slaughter OSU...

[POJO_Risin]

And freakin' Purdue looked like ass today...

did they even win?

[ALinChainz]

They did but is wasn't big.

20-13

Orton threw his first picks of the year, which was Purdue's first turnovers of the year.

Their WR Stubblefield became the all time leader in receptions in the Big 10.

[redblkwht]

Originally posted by redblkwht
If its close at halftime, OSU will win..
id like to see them open it up, they looked pretty
effective that way. hek i ate my words today..ouch.

[High Life Man]

Hi everyone.

What a great day yesterday was indeed.

OSU should have been held to 6, but a victory is still a victory. UW's defense is tops.

Next week we bitch slap Perdont and run toward a Big 10 title and some oranges.

Respect baby, respect! ;)

[redblkwht]

OK here comes the hawks, i hope we stomp them bigmouths..
never met such a bunch of shitheads when OSU won the 2002
champoinship, claiming they tied with them, what a crock.(big 10)
I hope we kick their teeth in.:D

[POJO_Risin]

Well...someone got their teeth kicked in...

Do my eyes deceive me?

33-0 Iowa...

outstanding....

Won't be long now till the callers come knockin' on the door...wanting Tressel's head...

[POJO_Risin]

Christ...Penn State might be BETTER than Ohio State...and that's not saying much...

[BrownSound1]

Don't mind me...I'm just looking at all of the weeping and gnashing of teeth. At least John Cooper used to wait until a bowl game before his teams would fall apart.

Trust me guys, I feel your pain. I know exactly how it feels to be a fan of a team that was once prominent and dominate, only to see them slowly fade to shit.

[redblkwht]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
Christ...Penn State might be BETTER than Ohio State...and that's not saying much...
you can say that again, friggin sucks ABC changed games in the 3rd
qtr, pissed me off.
2004 is over for now, save all the love for the last game..;)

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Oh yeah, Tressel needs to go, no doubt....

He obviously can't communicate with his players anymore....

Sound familiar ???? ;)

Or is that only applicable with Penn State loses ???

Just sayin', it's all cylical nowadays fellas, for nearly everyone...

[POJO_Risin]

Um...Va...please...

OSU went 26-2 previous to this year...

now 3-3 in what was an obvious rebuilding year...

if you back up through all of this...you'll see I said I couldn't believe they were ranked in the top 25...

I didn't expect a 33-0 loss on one hand...but on another...after losing to Wisconsin last week...and essentially knocking them out of the Big 10...I'm not surprised they laid an egg this week...

a fucking big one...

Reality? 15 new starters...actually...I think more...and nearly everyone on the OLine...

cynical? No...reality...yes...

I'm not looking for a new coach for OSU...

Now...as for PSU...yeah...they need a new coach...five years running (minus maybe 1 9 or 10-3 season in the past 5...or 6) of playing like ass...not just under par for Penn State...but under par for nearly anyone...

AND THEIR COACH IS WHAT...85?

[Va Beach VH Fan]

I said cyclical, not cynical...

I'll give you this much, you certainly are looking at this discussion with rose-colored glasses...

If you don't think it's cyclical, look at the records of both PSU and OSU since 1995...

PSU
95 - 9-3
96 - 11-2
97 - 9-3
98 - 10-3
99 - 10-3
00 - 5-7
01 - 5-6
02 - 9-4
03 - 3-9

OSU
95 - 11-2
96 - 11-1
97 - 10-3
98 - 11-1
99 - 6-6
00 - 8-4
01 - 7-5
02 - 14-0
03 - 11-2

So as you can see, ALL teams go through these phases.....

[POJO_Risin]

Okay...let's see if YOU CAN SEE IT...MR. CYCLICAL!

So now you are saying that PSU is cyclical? Um...3 of the past 4 years with a losing season? What fucking cycle are you watching? It's called Penn State being good for 30 years and the coach getting old...his staff getting old and retiring...and he's still there...

OSU's cycle...and PSU's cycle are two different stories...OSU has a cycle...PSU has a cycle...and PSU's is clearly showing that JoePa is done...

Show PSU's record over the past 30 years...see how many losing seasons they have?

[High Life Man]

Believe bitches. Believe!

;)

[POJO_Risin]

OSU sucks...PSU sucks...

but I will tell you this...Wisconsin isn't that good...

thank your lucky stars it's a down year in the big 10...

but their Defense IS better than I thought...but Purdue handed them that game yesterday...

[High Life Man]

Defense wins games and titles.

Jump on the bandwagon now Poj! It's not too late. :D

[POJO_Risin]

Oh...you don't have to tell me about Defenses...OSU did it two years ago with that same philosophy...

I hate Wisconsin bro...

not as much as Michigan...but if they were the only team there...I'd pick up knitting...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
Okay...let's see if YOU CAN SEE IT...MR. CYCLICAL!

So now you are saying that PSU is cyclical? Um...3 of the past 4 years with a losing season? What fucking cycle are you watching? It's called Penn State being good for 30 years and the coach getting old...his staff getting old and retiring...and he's still there...

OSU's cycle...and PSU's cycle are two different stories...OSU has a cycle...PSU has a cycle...and PSU's is clearly showing that JoePa is done...

Show PSU's record over the past 30 years...see how many losing seasons they have?

Other than the stats I showed before, one other season....

But I still don't understand, why does that make the coach's age the reason behind their downfall ??

Why isn't it having two below average QB's ??

Why isn't it having a pourous defense ??

I'll agree with you that their recruiting has not been what it once was, but I would state that it's the improvement of teams in the East that are contributing to that just as much as it's PSU's losing seasons, teams such as Virginia, VA Tech, West Virginia, and even the MAC schools...

[ALinChainz]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
Oh...you don't have to tell me about Defenses...OSU did it two years ago with that same philosophy...

I hate Wisconsin bro...

not as much as Michigan...but if they were the only team there...I'd pick up knitting...

Sweaters or blankets?

:D

[High Life Man]

Originally posted by ALinChainz
Sweaters or blankets?

:D


Cock socks.

Erasmus James is out next week. Sucks. It's Northwerstern, but we can't overlook them.

GO BADGERS!

[redblkwht]

Indiana's next, the question now is can they beat them??
if they lose, tressel may be in for a fire sale media style..
i wish i could see them newspapers there now..woah.

[Rebel]

OSU is just having a down year, doesn't matter much either way, Big 10 doesn't play real football anyway.


Hoddy Toddy!!!!

[POJO_Risin]

Oh...here we go with the Big 10 crap...lmfao...

well...OSU sucks this year...so I concur...

Now to Va...;)

[POJO_Risin]

Alright...

Now you know that my statements are much more than Paterno being older than dirt my brother...but certainly every problem they have can be attributed to him BEING PASSED HIS PRIME FOR SURE...

I concur with your recruiting piece...but I follow up with this...

Penn State should never get their asses kicked in recruiting by Virginia, Va Tech and West Virginia...and you could make a case for Pitt as well...

but Don Nehlan (not sure if that's the correct name for sure) was at WVU in Penn State's heyday...and he could recruit like a motherfucker...but not nearly as well as Penn State...

you see...I think you are missing the grand point here...

You are fighting me tooth and nail about JoePa being passed his prime...you may be the only one in the country...and I'm not really sure why...

You see...here's the difference between the vaunted Penn State...and the current Penn State...

1. In the past, JoePa really left the offensive and defensive chores to his coordinators...but oversaw it all...and would call plays when he had too...and he had guys there that were his guys...guys that grew up with him...played with or for him...and believed in what he believed...

how has that changed? New coaches...different philosophies...and JoePa's inability at this point to control that...or mesh that into his schemes...if he has them anymore...now he's truly an overseer...rarely calling plays...so I submit he's lost control of that team period...which is probably the way he wants it to be honest...

2. RECRUITING!!! The only reason why Penn State is getting beat in recruiting (and if I had said to you 10 years ago that the Virginias all were beating them in recruiting...YOU WOULD HAVE WANTED HIM FIRED) is BECAUSE of Paterno. Paterno used to be able to sell himself...which was the biggest sell...come play for me...national titles...winning seasons...I'll be here forever...Rose Bowls...on and on...

and it worked...and well...

Now...what's his sell? He's damn old...they aren't good...Penn State's name STILL carries weight...but not Paterno...their offense isn't good...their defense IS...but is on the field so damn much...that it's nullified...YOU COULD BE THE GREATEST RECRUITER ON THE PLANET...as I'm sure PSU looks for in coordinators...but if you go to that imfamous living room meeting...with a kid who's locked between Penn State, Pitt and Virginia...where do you go...to play for JoePa...who may or may not be there very long...Groh...a form NFL head...who has an immense offense...and a winner...plays in the new ACC against FSU and Florida...and isn't PERCIEVED to be past his prime...

Pitt wasn't a good example...I don't know why anyone goes there...

My point is this...I just can't see Paterno winning many of those battles...and that is obvious...

You can say what you want about the qb's (recruiting, schemes)...

You can say what you want about the defense (recruiting, schemes)...

but in Paterno's prime...THEY NEVER HAD THESE ISSUES...or worked around them...

they have no passing game...no running game (PENN STATE WITH NO RUNNING GAME!!!)...their line looks like ass...their defense...I think is good...but is on the field to much to be that good...and like our Steelers...get nailed for big plays...

So what we are saying is their offense and defense blows...

and...DID YOU SAY THEY ARE GETTING OUTRECRUITED BY MAC TEAMS...

my brother...please listen to yourself...I will tell you this...if Tressell ever starts getting outrecruited by FUCKING MAC TEAMS...I'll call for his resignation the next day...

Never...ever...should Penn state continually lose players to MAC SCHOOLS...if that is the case...you've just proved my point...

so they have issue

[POJO_Risin]

Personally...I like Troy Smith better than Justin Zwick...Smith isn't the deep guy that Zwick is...but has a good arm...but doesn't make as many mistakes...

I also think Pittman should be the starter from this point on...

Ross is done...he isn't any good...and Hall...just use him as the kick returner...

Give Pittman a shot to win this job...his junior year...he had 2300 yards for OSU...and 35 TD's...pretty standard stuff for good OSU backs...but his cousin is even better...

Tyrell Sutton...also from Akron...had 2300 yards his soph year...and 2500 yards his junior year...

top 2 schools...OSU and Michigan...doesn't know if he wants to compete against his cousin at OSU...

He just broke the Ohio School Boy record this year...and isn't done yet...he'll end up with over 8,000 YARDS RUSHING FOR HIS CAREER!!!!

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

I take that back...he's going to end up with over 9 thousand yards apparently...he's already knocking on that doorstep...

and he's already commited...fucker...

TO NORTHWESTERN?

Chripes...he was pissed that Michigan and OSU didn't offer him something early...and Northwestern did what they always do...offered him up something early...last year...and he committed...

He wasn't even on OSU's radar...interesting...they must like Pittman...

[Jano]

Adrian Peterson and White are leading OU to the championship's tittle! and the heisman trophy!
GO SOONERS!!!!!

[POJO_Risin]

Um...okay...whatever...

[High Life Man]

Does it smell like Oranges or Roses in here? Mmmm....


;)

[redblkwht]

Originally posted by Jano
Adrian Peterson and White are leading OU to the championship's tittle! and the heisman trophy!
GO SOONERS!!!!! Wrong thread dude..start a scooner
thread somewhere else-BTW they aint going no where this yr either.
take that to the bank, them & Nebraska can lick my nads..
they are the same white trash, trailor park toast making monkeys
playing on a dirt mound after the game..there is no life in either
area besides football, rediculous & what you win not enough to
talk the smack..BTW name a real dominant NFL player from that
school that plays now? Crouch.. LMMFAO.
Get off the island, youve been voted off.
BUH BYE!
this is big 10 or OSU thread period.

[Jano]

Originally posted by redblkwht
Wrong thread dude..start a scooner
thread somewhere else-BTW they aint going no where this yr either.
take that to the bank, them & Nebraska can lick my nads..
they are the same white trash, trailor park toast making monkeys
playing on a dirt mound after the game..there is no life in either
area besides football, rediculous & what you win not enough to
talk the smack..BTW name a real dominant NFL player from that
school that plays now? Crouch.. LMMFAO.
Get off the island, youve been voted off.
BUH BYE!
this is big 10 or OSU thread period.
IT smell like anger in here,if you 're a true college fan give a little be of respect to Nebraska and OU because between thoses two,let me see, so many national championship tittle, heisman trophy and players in NFL.So don't be ridiculous and shut the fuck up!:D

[POJO_Risin]

Look...Jano...a couple of things...and I'm speaking of myself here...

you entered the fray in AN OHIO STATE THREAD...obviously throwing a little disrespect to OSU and to the Big 10...

so how about dropping the college football hypocricy a bit...and getting a reality check...

Nebraska is done...and gone...

Oklahoma is a Stoops product...we'll see what happens IF he leaves...because between Stoops and the cheater...OU was shit...

they are good...sure...but we'll see where they end up. I'll put the Big 10's national titles up against the Big 12's any day of the week...and no...I wouldn't count Texas'...since they got ALL of their in the SWC...the Big 8's rival...

[POJO_Risin]

Did Ohio State beat Penn State today?

[POJO_Risin]

I was just curious...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Gee, let me check...

Uh, yeah... 21-10

Not that I watched any of it, it wasn't on here....

I would've had to watch NC State and Wake Forest....

So yeah, you guessed it, I took a nap instead.... ;)

[POJO_Risin]

lmfao Va...I hear you...

I hear it was a real offensive juggernaut...with OSU scoring on a punt return...and interception return...then playing keep away in the second half...

[POJO_Risin]

Hey bro...happy birthday...by the way...I wouldn't put it past you old geezer's taking a nap...;)

[redblkwht]

Originally posted by Jano
IT smell like anger in here,if you 're a true college fan give a little be of respect to Nebraska and OU because between thoses two,let me see, so many national championship tittle, heisman trophy and players in NFL.So don't be ridiculous and shut the fuck up!:D Make your OWN Thread then, Janis..
put the pillow back in your mouth.........:D

[redblkwht]

Next thing you know, Bob Barker will be at my door..
Cause i called him Janice. LMAO

[ALinChainz]

A nice little win for OSU.

Warms the heart.

:D

[POJO_Risin]

Ugh...Michigan Al...you know there are only two things that matter to Michigan fans and Ohio State fans...

we're both already out of one...no National title for either...

so it's down to the end of the November...

now...granted...Ohio State is going to have to probably score 30 points with their defense...because their offense is the shittiest in the country...or at least close to it...

but they're going to find a way...

Michigan can only pull them out of their ass for so long...Carr isn't that good of a coach to continue that shit all year...

[ALinChainz]

I can't believe that it has to be every week with Michigan, but what on the job training those freshamn are getting.

Losing Braylon will be major.

[POJO_Risin]

But they have an offense...it just takes awhile for them to realize they need it...

Bro...the Big 10 sucks this year...and Michigan doesn't play Wisconsin...

this is a good year to play the way they are playing...

[ALinChainz]

Oh hell yeah.

Although I would really want us to play them and win, I'm not all that heart broken. They are better than I thought.

I thought they would go the way of Purdue. Tough early but fade in the latter stage. But they haven't.

The Big 10 is definitely down this season.

Just gearing up for next season, after OSU of course. :D

[POJO_Risin]

Well...I can't believe how fucking torrentially bad Tressel's offense is this year...

no fucking running game to speak of...

TWO quarterbacks that haven't really done anything...Troy Smith goes 6 for 8...but I don't think he threw a damn pass in the second half...

they didn't have to...but christ...what the fuck is that?

[ALinChainz]

The Clarett deal really screwed the running game.

I am a little surprised at their record this year though.

I like Tressell though, for the most part, as much as I can, for a Buckeye.

[POJO_Risin]

It's funny...I think Michigan fans liked John Cooper more than OSU fans did...I never liked the guy...funny how a guy who wins 10 games a year can still piss you off...

Tressel's a good coach...the college I went to was about 30 minutes from Youngstown State...and he was a fucking legend in the area...and in Ohio...

of course his ties are to OSU...as an assistant to Earle Bruce...and his father was a longtime Ohio Coach...

Tressel once said at Youngstown State, "This college is a little slice of paradise, and I love it here. I would never leave unless they asked me, or a certain athletic director up North gave me a call..."

they did...

He runs a great program...always believes in the ball control...field position game...

he had to love Krenzel in that program...a born leader...with the perfect tools to lead a running attack...and a ball control/field position offense...

I think Justin Zwick has pro written all over him...but I think he'll have to transfer...Troy Smith, as I've said from the start, is the better fit at Ohio State...

Now they need to start getting Pittman the necesary reps to get him the ball next year...unless they have a hidden gem committed already...

[redblkwht]

Originally posted by ALinChainz
The Clarett deal really screwed the running game.

I think so too, Ross isnt worthy of being in the
Backfield, just an upgraded fullback speed, he'll never be a pro.
So why keep playing him?

[POJO_Risin]

They didn't...he was suspended last week...maybe this week too...

a program like Ohio State's shouldn't be that dependant...especially at the running back position...

Clarett...even if he played last year...they shoulda known they'd have needed another top-notch back...

Tressel just didn't get the job done recruiting a top-notch back to take his place...

realize this...they are young on that OLine as well...I think they lost nearly the entire line last year...

[redblkwht]

I read theres 14 new starters this year, correct?
If so it may take a year or two to gel as a unit.
I believe in Tresell, he knows what hes doing, i think
the fans are spoiled & are panicking too soon, they should
lay off the guy.

[POJO_Risin]

He's not taking that much heat...

He needs to nail down a big recruiting class though...and nail down a fantastic back...

Pittman is supposed to be big time...but I think Tressel is being careful to put the team in the hands of another freshman...at least early in the year...

I think he's working out for the future right now...Troy has looked okay the last two games...and he has a big time arm...so the true battle will be ended when OSU plays Michigan...I think we'll see who's going to be starting for this team during that game...

[POJO_Risin]

This sounds inane I know...but I do think OSU can still run the table...they won't be in a big game at the end...and that's okay...but if they can run the table with this shit ass team...or even go through with only one more loss...and a bowl win (and of course...a big win against Michigan), I think they'll be fine for next year...

it's good to see after the upset...and the ass handing at Iowa...that they haven't chalked it in yet...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
the college I went to was about 30 minutes from Youngstown State...

You must've been haulin' ass...

86 miles in 30 minutes.... ;)

[POJO_Risin]

I graduated from Slippery Rock you dumb bastard...

[POJO_Risin]

I can't believe you mapquested that trip from the Boro...lmfao...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

LOL, my bad.... ;)

Could've sworn you went to the Boro....

You probably just drank there a lot....

[Jano]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
Look...Jano...a couple of things...and I'm speaking of myself here...

you entered the fray in AN OHIO STATE THREAD...obviously throwing a little disrespect to OSU and to the Big 10...

so how about dropping the college football hypocricy a bit...and getting a reality check...

Nebraska is done...and gone...

Oklahoma is a Stoops product...we'll see what happens IF he leaves...because between Stoops and the cheater...OU was shit...

they are good...sure...but we'll see where they end up. I'll put the Big 10's national titles up against the Big 12's any day of the week...and no...I wouldn't count Texas'...since they got ALL of their in the SWC...the Big 8's rival...

Please POJO be real!

[POJO_Risin]

Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
LOL, my bad.... ;)

Could've sworn you went to the Boro....

You probably just drank there a lot....


That my friend...I did...;)

[POJO_Risin]

Originally posted by Jano
Please POJO be real!

"Shit...I have no comeback..um...hmmm...er...."

"Please POJO be real!"

utter brilliance...

[ALinChainz]

Don't the Buckeyes play Mich St. this week?

LOL ... hate them equally ... too bad one has to win.

0-0 tie?

Go Blue!

:D

[redblkwht]

Originally posted by ALinChainz
Don't the Buckeyes play Mich St. this week?

LOL ... hate them equally ... too bad one has to win.

0-0 tie?

Go Blue!

:D Three weeks..your love is coming bro.
the smack talk will commence that week, trust me.:D

[ALinChainz]

Oh I know ... kind of expecting it ... :)

[Jano]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
"Shit...I have no comeback..um...hmmm...er...."

"Please POJO be real!"

utter brilliance...
Hello POJO,i'm sorry to talk about the big 12 in your thread but i was happy to speak about college football with someone.Too bad that i've got my ass kicked for it,but you know i can't find anybody in France to speak with about the subject!It's college game day today and it's a great day so peace to the big 10's lovers!
Bye guys,and keep the good work!

[POJO_Risin]

lmfao...fair enough...

we can talk some smack...not a problem...let's start another thread though...a more all encompassing thread...shall we?

[Jano]

I like this OSU thread,i learned a lot about the big 10 and it's pretty good!

[POJO_Risin]

Well...to be honest...I'm not a conference fan...just an Ohio State fan...

and I don't like ANY other teams...lmfao..to be honest...

[Jano]

What's happening to them this year, they were pretty good few years ago?

[POJO_Risin]

A ton of young players...no offense...they'll be back next year...

their recruiting class is already stellar...and getting better...

[Jano]

You'll be happier next year ,those" transition's year" can hurt a football team very bad,but college football need OSU back to the top!

[POJO_Risin]

Alright...the Buckeyes won again today...getting them to 6-3...but Purdue and Michigan loom...they win out...and a good season...but they could lose out...Purdue is struggling...but could look to this game as a rubber band to turn it around...and I still think the Michigan game is up in the air...Michigan may be going for the title...and OSU would like nothing better than to knock them out...

They better fucking figure out this offense though...

[redblkwht]

I agree bro, perdue is beatable too..
Beating Michigan again in thye shoe will
make their season on end a better note.
Heard a couple new guys came on strong in the end &
the Rook QB rocks! glad they finally benched Zwick
i see him leaving asap.(transfer)

[POJO_Risin]

Well...like I said many...many times...

Many people felt that Zwick had the best arm...and that Smith was the better quarterback...in a Krenzel kind of mode...

we'll see...

Ginn Jr. and Holmes are the real deal...but OSU needs a fucking running game...and some damn lineman...

their recruiting class for next year already looks stellar...and if they can nab 2 or 3 more top 50 guys...it will be the best in the country...

They are getting shunned by RB's so far...but the top five on their list are all good ones...and it includes a Clarett clone...who is the #1 RB in the country...

he's a west coast guy however...but HE expressed an interest in OSU...

[redblkwht]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin


They are getting shunned by RB's so far...but the top five on their list are all good ones...and it includes a Clarett clone...who is the #1 RB in the country...

he's a west coast guy however...but HE expressed an interest in OSU... Lets hope they land him too, seems to be coming around
again..they will be great soon, I just want to see a dynasty type
team ala Woody Hayes days!

[POJO_Risin]

I don't see that as a reality these days rbw...but if Tressel can keep getting the top Ohio recruits...it could happen...he keeps stealing away some players from Fla....and is now looking to the West Coast...so who knows...if he keeps getting the skill positions...OSU will be up there every year...

they have another stud qb coming in as well...

[redblkwht]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
they have another stud qb coming in as well...
I heard that too, nothing but positive news for my father in law..
man hes so excited for this program bro.

LMAO, life IS good..

[High Life Man]

Bye bye sweatervest!

Tuesday, November 9, 2004
Clarett claims cash, cars among benefits

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
By Tom Friend and Ryan Hockensmith
ESPN The Magazine

Ending six months of silence, former Ohio State running back Maurice Clarett has told ESPN The Magazine in this week's edition that he "took the fall" for the school during a 2003 NCAA investigation and that he's talking now because he wants to "clear his name" with National Football League owners and general managers.


Clarett says that while he was at Ohio State in 2002 and 2003 head coach Jim Tressel, as well as certain members of his staff and boosters, provided him with improper benefits. He says he covered up Tressel's improprieties during the NCAA investigation and afterward, Ohio State "blackballed'' him from the football program.

According to Clarett, Tressel arranged loaner cars for him and Tressel's brother, Dick, found him lucrative landscaping jobs that he did not even have to show up for. He says members of Tressel's staff also introduced him to boosters who'd slip him thousands of dollars, and the better he played, the more cash he'd receive. He says boosters eventually began inviting him into their homes or would meet him out in the community

"When you'd leave, [the booster] sets you straight," Clarett told The Magazine. "They say, 'You got any money in your pocket?' They make sure your money's straight."

Clarett also says he likely would have been ineligible for Ohio State's national title season of 2002 if the football staff had not "aligned'' him with an academic advisor whose goal was simply to keep him eligible. He says the academic advisor enrolled him in Independent Study courses and also put him with hand-picked teachers who would pass him whether he attended their classes or not. He says his advisor also introduced him to a tutor who prepared outlines and told him what to write for assignments.

Another former Ohio State player, linebacker Marco Cooper (2000-01; Spring 2002), corroborated many of Clarett's comments. Cooper, who was suspended from the team following two arrests for drug possession, says he also had bogus landscaping jobs, that a booster helped furnish his apartment, and that he was able to borrow cars from local Columbus dealerships in exchange for signed OSU memorabilia.

Another former Buckeyes player, current Maryland running back Sammy Maldonado, says he was placed in so many courses that did not put him on the road to graduation that only 17 of a possible 40 credits earned would transfer to his new school.

Ohio State officials have declined to comment on many of the allegations. School President Karen Holbrook, Jim Tressel and Dick Tressel refused to respond through spokespersons, while Athletic Director Andy Geiger said he would not answer questions until after the magazine story appeared, if then.

"We went through a yearlong investigation of our academic programs, everything that [Clarett] has to allege,'' Geiger said. "He vowed to me that he would do something to try to get us and this may be what he's trying to do. So he's on his own.

"We dealt with this guy [Clarett] for 18 months. I just hope you've checked into the background and history of who you're dealing with.''

Clarett's former academic advisor and tutor also declined comment. The NCAA, which investigated Clarett for potential academic and financial irregularities in the summer of 2003, said it is against its policy to discuss the Clarett case.

Clarett, 21, who gained 1,237 yards and scored 18 touchdowns in 2002, his only collegiate season, says he was asked during the 2003 NCAA investigation whether he received a loaner car from Tressel, and, to protect the coach, he says, he answered no. He says when he was asked about other indiscretions, he answered, "I don't know" or "I don't remember," which was a violation of NCAA Rule 10.1, requiring forthright answers.

"What would have become of Ohio State if I said everything?'' Clarett told The Magazine. "Half the team would have been suspended, and it would have been worse for everybody. I was like, 'Why don't I just take it?'"

The school suspended him for the entire 2003 season, and when Clarett asked to be reinstated for 2004, he says the athletic department systematically "blackballed him" by taking away the teachers and tutors.

Clarett then tried applying for the 2004 NFL Draft, and was first ruled eligible and then ineligible, because he wasn't the requisite three years removed from high school. He says he was "depressed" by the court's ultimate decision to ban him, but is now working out in anticipation of the 2005 draft in April. He says he is hoping this winter to play in this winter's East-West Shrine game and the Senior Bowl, all-star invitationals that would be his first football games in two years.

Several pro executives say, as of now, the running back could go as low as the fourth or fifth round. Clarett contends he will change any negative perceptions at the NFL combine in February.

"I'm thinking, 'NFL GMs know college players take money,' " Clarett says. "It was nothing like I stole something. Nothing like I'm running from the law or I'm dragging a girl down the stairs. No domestic violence. No nothing. [But] I got to clear myself up now, because it's affecting the minds of the GMs."

[POJO_Risin]

LMFAO...yeah...he's cleared things up alright...

he has no cred...and this will equal to nothing...

it cracks me up High Life...when people CHOOSE to listen to Clarett...

PS...OSU may blow chunks this year...and they do...

but it's good to see your Badgers playing CLUTCH...

lmfao...

the dream is over...

now you NEED OSU TO WIN...hahahahahahahaha...

Go Barry...Go Alvarez...Go Badgers!...Florida Citrus...HERE WE COME!

[redblkwht]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
LMFAO...yeah...he's cleared things up alright...

he has no cred...and this will equal to nothing...
Clarret just hung his ass for ANY high draft pick to the NFL..
6th round tops, espn radio reported. i bet hes a walk on somewhere.
please not Chicago!! I'll pass-
just cant shut the diahhrea out of his mouth from flowing.
Ncaa reported on going into OSU monday morning.(tomorrow)
nothing will surface i bet, just watch.


What a perfect fitting & Quote..High Life, you may now bow to us now
for a win..lmao
rather Wisc than Mich anyway..the fokkers.

[POJO_Risin]

Fuck them both...they both suck...

as for the NCAA...interesting who THEY listen too now...lmfao...

Well...if Tressell did it...fuck him...

I don't buy it though...

[High Life Man]

See you in Orlando.

Fuck. FUCK.

[POJO_Risin]

lmfao...

Bro...that's what you get for leaving it up to the Buckeyes...Michigan will beat them by...hmmm...21...

of course...

you never know in that game...

[ALinChainz]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
lmfao...

Bro...that's what you get for leaving it up to the Buckeyes...Michigan will beat them by...hmmm...21...

of course...

you never know in that game...

Oh I don't know ...

Sounds like you have the idea ...

:D

[redblkwht]

I dont believe any of the story either..
think about it, how can a coach have a hook up car
dealer that soon? what his 1st year there? NO WAY.
Tressell didnt market himself to the columbus public that quickly.
Clarrets out his mind thinking this shit up.


Maurice is doing everything he can, kick whine, & squirm
to bring someone else down with him.
what a complete piece of shit.
i hope the NFL does blackball him, hes more than a
punk to me now.

[ALinChainz]

Supposively another player has come forward about jobs and money while there. Think he's playing in the Arena League.

Another nobody.

[redblkwht]

Originally posted by ALinChainz
Oh I don't know ...

Sounds like you have the idea ...

:D
Gimme a break, NW had you on your knees last week in the 1st half
trust me bro, OSU is coming to play, hard too..last game as well
what better splash for next years squad?
your in for the bombs bro, break the dam's POJO..

ITS ON!:D

[ALinChainz]

lol ... oh ... S ... PEW ....


It is on.


Northwestern had us working on plays for the film room, looking forward to the game with the Buckeyes. When the time came, the defense shut them down, and the offense came alive.

Just looking at common opponents ... and Michigan wanting to capitalize after Wisconsin loses ...

You know it's GO BLUE bro ... but I understand the attitude though ...

It's the best part of college sports. :)

[redblkwht]

an off note..any star wars fans?
check out the trilor..WOAH.

http://www.hollywood.com/movies/detail/movie/467879

[redblkwht]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1923175

85 cars..im wondering whats next. hopefully thats it..
over..

[redblkwht]

and counting..2 days till game-time! tell me its not on espn
please! abc or fox will be good!!!!!!!!!!(working)

[ALinChainz]

I would almost certainly think ABC.

Brett Musberger, Gary Danielson ...

Hoping the freshman come up big in this game.

GO BLUE!

[redblkwht]

Originally posted by ALinChainz
I would almost certainly think ABC.

Brett Musberger, Gary Danielson ...

Hoping the freshman come up big in this game.

GO BLUE! how bout alot of freshman mistakes will due
me just fine on the blue side..:D :)
GO BUCKS!!!

[High Life Man]

UNDERCOVER FAN: OSU punks rip into U-M rivals

Buckeye band the Dead Schembechlers makes fun of coaching legend, his team
November 19, 2004









The Undercover Fan

The University of Michigan plays the Ohio State University on Saturday for the 101st time in what many consider to be the country's best college football rivalry. But it's not much of a rivalry.


Michigan has never won. That's right, they've lost 100 straight games.


And for all those who believe that U-M won just last year, 35-21 in Ann Arbor, well, said the frontman for Columbus punk rock band the Dead Schembechlers: "They are dupes, suckers who've been tricked by the 'Wolverine liberal media.' "


In fact, the man who calls himself Bo Biafra believes many of the nation's problems can be traced to the prissy campus in Ann Arbor.


"Did you know that the massive changes in our country's weather patterns can be traced back to the time when Apollo 15 was in the air?" Biafra said. "Did you know who made up the crew? That's right, three alumni from the University of Michigan!"


Biafra thinks all evil arises from the leafy little lefty enclave on the outskirts of metro Detroit. He thinks U-M girls are questionable, U-M boys are morons, and former coaching legend Bo Schembechler is the ultimate traitor.


So he formed a punk band, borrowing heavily from the Ramones and the Dead Kennedys, to alert the world of the danger to the north, and to mock Schembechler, still the face of Michigan football in Columbus.


Biafra and fellow members Bo Thunders, Bo Vicious and Bo Scabies dress in white short-sleeve shirts and thin black ties and black pants and black baseball caps with OSU logos in homage to their hero, former OSU coach Woody Hayes. They wrote songs titled, "I Hate Michigan," "Bo for 24" "M Means Moron" and "Michigan Stadium is a Pile of #*&@."


Tonight, for the first time, they are headlining the annual Hate Michigan Rally at a rock club in Columbus. To prepare for the rally, Biafra said he spent the week in Washington, D.C., lobbying Secretary of State nominee Condoleezza Rice.


"Now that wimpy Colin Powell is out, we figured we could convince Rice to launch a thermonuclear attack on Ann Arbor," he said. "It may hurt President Bush's standing in Michigan, but hey, the election is over."


Biafra earns a living in music, but not with the Schembechlers. He wouldn't say how. Depending on his mood, he is in his mid-30s, or maybe late 30s. He grew up in an Ohio State family in Columbus and may have actually attended the university. Or maybe not. He remembers people from his childhood with U-M leanings.


"But I don't remember much about them," he said. "They disappeared under mysterious circumstances."


He describes the Dead Schembechlers' musical style as Wolverine hate core, laced with lyrics dedicated to the demise of the team and whose roots can be found in psychotic punk rock.


In a week when current U-M coach Lloyd Carr bemoaned the dark side of the rivalry, Biafra and company are turning it up, with a wink.


"They have a sense of humor," said Chris Painter, arts editor of the Other Paper, an alternative weekly in Columbus. "They are actually good musicians."


Biafra said he was moved to form the group after legendary coach Hayes appeared in his dreams.


"He arose from a golden light, whispered in my ear, and told me to do it," Biafra said. "He also told me to rent the movie 'Midway.' "


Hayes was a military history buff.


Biafra figured the band was payback to Schembechler, who played for Hayes at Miami of Ohio in the early 1950s and later coached under Hayes at Ohio State. In Buckeyeland, no one has forgotten how he left for hated Michigan.


The real Bo, by the way, could not be reached to comment on the band named after him, though he has often joked himself about some of the exuberant fans in Ohio's capital city.


Biafra expects millions tonight at his gig and wouldn't be surprised to find Wolverine spies, sent down on mind-control drugs to gather information for headquarters back in Ann Arbor, in search of ways to quash the rebellion.


"They want total world domination," Biafra said. "They are so jealous of life in Columbus. They are like citizens under the old Soviet Union."


Biafra predicts another Ohio State victory Saturday.


"We will march on a road of Wolverine bones, and that when the final gun sounds, the Dead Schembechlers will gnaw coach Carr's skull, 76-0."


When the game is over, and the delirious horde of scarlet and silver prepare to burn the streets, Biafra and his mates plan to head up to Akron for a post-victory vacation.


"It's the international hotspot of the world," he said. "Best nightlife anywhere."


From the lobby of Motel 6, the Dead Schembechlers will holler into the night, arguing with any spies who dare suggest Michigan actually leads the series, 57-37-6.

[POJO_Risin]

LMFAO...the Dead Schembechlers...classic stuff...

woke up at 6 AM today...with only 1 thing on my mind...OSU/Michigan...damn...hard to believe I've been through 33 of these games...

Here's to ya' Al...game on...

as a matter of fact...I'm going to change the name of the thread in ode to the day's festivities...

[POJO_Risin]

Well...OSU is up 7-0...I just don't see that defense stopping Michigan at all...

Hart will probably have 200 yards rushing today...

of course...it's NOT FUCKING ON HERE...

I can't go to a damn bar...watching the kids...

this is torture...

[ALinChainz]

3rd and 12.

Rushing only 3 lineman.

DAMN NEAR sacked his ass.

The HAIL MARY PRAYER.

Shazor half ass falls.

TD.

Not fucking happy.

[ALinChainz]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
LMFAO...the Dead Schembechlers...classic stuff...

woke up at 6 AM today...with only 1 thing on my mind...OSU/Michigan...damn...hard to believe I've been through 33 of these games...

Here's to ya' Al...game on...

as a matter of fact...I'm going to change the name of the thread in ode to the day's festivities...

Game on.

Same for me this morning. Hauled gnads to the store and back in time. The family is on the "please don't talk to me unless I talk to you first" rule. :D

lol ... I'll admit ... I laughed at "WolverQueens".

[ALinChainz]

TD Avant, 5 yards out.

Tie game.

[POJO_Risin]

OSU's defense just can't compete with the line...the receivers...or the back...this year...

if we win...it's a miracle...

if we lose...it's expected...

I really fucking can't believe this game isn't on here...I'm in utter disbelief...

[ALinChainz]

That is fucked bro.

With the way they push this thing, you'd figure it'd be everywhere.

Michigan driving.

Ball at the 1.

[POJO_Risin]

14-7...

I can't fucking believe it...

IT'S THE NATIONAL FUCKING GAME...

Unfuckingbelievable...

I could see if there was another game...

but UVA vs. GEORGIA FUCKING TECH?

No way...no fucking way....

[POJO_Risin]

Spurrier coming back to the SEC...wait...did he take the South Carolina job?...

[ALinChainz]

All indications are that he will.

Holtz will step down, retire.

14-14 now , 99 yard drive. QB sneak.

Michigan forced to punt.

OSU gonna keep this thing close.

[POJO_Risin]

Holtz announced today he is retiring...

Spurrier announcement on Monday or Tuesday...

[ALinChainz]

OSU at UM's 2

First and Goal.

Taking the lead here, Michigan is going to blow this game.

I can't believe this QB is tearing us up.

[POJO_Risin]

I'm guessing OSU is opening up the offense a bit more than normal...maybe Tressel will open up his eyes...

how does Smith look at QB?...

and that freshman Ginn Jr....I remember when they were recruiting him...they almost stopped because they figured he'd leave early...or try and go the Clarett route...and leave after a year or two...has he scored yet?

[POJO_Risin]

Troy Smith was #1 out of Ohio 2 years ago...

but Zwick was the #1 in the country coming out...

most people in Ohio though Smith was better...but was overshadowed by 1 Maurice Clarett...who was Smith's starting tailback...

[ALinChainz]

He is playing well.

Leading rusher, 6-8 throwing it.

Michigan stuffed them twice ... pass comploete, but not in the end zone ...

Going for it on 4th.

[ALinChainz]

Timeout on the field.

[POJO_Risin]

I can't fucking believe this game isn't on...fuckers...

[POJO_Risin]

Tressel said he had 2 goals when he came...

1. Beat Michigan...

2. Win National Titles...

I'm not surprised if he goes for it...

[POJO_Risin]

If they don't get it...then they play Tressel's ball control offense...if their D can shut them down...

[ALinChainz]

Incomplete pass, goaline stand.

But the OSU defense .. forces the punt, punting from our endzone.

Fucking Michigan.

OSU at UM's 32, first down.

[ALinChainz]

OSU only had 10 men on the field for the punt.

[POJO_Risin]

That's Tressel's game...pin them deep...keep the ball on the right side of the field...problem is...at some point...they'll need to score...

[POJO_Risin]

Who is playing tailback for OSU?...Pittman, Joe, Hall or Ross?

[POJO_Risin]

Okay...not another goal line stand...tell me not another goal line stand...fucking inept running backs...HAVE FUCKING TROY SMITH KEEP IT GODDAMN IT!1!

[POJO_Risin]

Not fucking twice...jesus h. christ...

if they get only 3 here...that's the game...Michigan will win...

unfuckingbelievable...

[POJO_Risin]

Gotta give the Queens some props their Al...2 goalline stands in 5 minutes...pretty fucking tough to do...

[ALinChainz]

It has been both Ross and Joe, but Smith is running all over the place.

They just blew a first and goal again, but this time they let Nugent kick the FG.

17-14.

And he damn near missed the chip shot, fucking barely.

[ALinChainz]

Smith 10 carries, 53 yds, TD
Joe 10 carries, 37 yds
Ross 2 carries, 2 yds

[POJO_Risin]

OSU needed at least 7 at the break to win this game...

he must be unleashing Smith today...funny the fucker can't get in the end zone though...

[POJO_Risin]

close to the half yet?

[POJO_Risin]

This is my national title game...I don't give a rat's ass about a meaningless bowl game this year...

[ALinChainz]

Final 31 seconds .. Smith 281 yards total Offesne ... at Michigan 45

[POJO_Risin]

Christ...who the fuck is this moron on ABC...talking about Rings and Roses...and Michigan going to Columbus to play at the "Buckeye?"

Um...the "Buckeye?"

WTF...

THE HORSESHOE YOU FUCKING RETARD...

[ALinChainz]

All 3 timeouts ... not using them ... and almost had this last pass picked off.

[POJO_Risin]

Christ...is going to get 300 yards rushing...or 100 yards receiving?

is it mostly rushing yardage?

[POJO_Risin]

WTF is Lydell Ross passing the ball for?

WTF IS GOING ON?

[POJO_Risin]

Virginia fucking Georgia Tech...I just can't fathom that...how does that game get put on ANY TV SCREEN?

[POJO_Risin]

Okay...this has to be wrong AL...why is Lydell Ross playing quarterback?

or is Sportsline stattracker all fucked up...

[ALinChainz]

Michigan's 24 ... 2nd and 10 ...

[POJO_Risin]

Okay...now they have Lydell Ross...a tailback...throwing his third pass...to Ginn for 26 yards?

Am I missing something?

Is Smith hurt?

[ALinChainz]

2 more incompletes ... FG attempt

[ALinChainz]

20-14 ... half.

Fucking Michigan.

Fucking Carr ... "good thing it's not just a 30 minute game".

Sucks balls.

:)

[POJO_Risin]

Christ...

I wouldn't worry to much if I were you...

OSU doesn't have the horses this year...

We'll see how good Tressel is...and how good Carr is...

[POJO_Risin]

Of course we know Carr sucks...the question is does Tressel suck more...

[ALinChainz]

Ginn 80+ yard punt return.

27-14.

Having to use Jackson and Edwards on punt coverage, and they both sucked dick right there.

[POJO_Risin]

Ginn is a game breaker...no way he's there for 4 years...

hmmm...27-14...OSU has to much take it easy in them for this to be a blowout win...

[POJO_Risin]

Man...it didn't even look like Ginn was in top gear...and only a Freshman...

[ALinChainz]

big 3rd down here for Michigan.

They have abandoned Michael Hart it looks like, no reason why either.

Throwing too much. Henne not coming through.

They are bottling up Braylon, but we keep running him short.

[ALinChainz]

Punting ...

I feel a nap coming on.

[POJO_Risin]

I can't figure out the Hart deal...people can run against the Buckeyes...I really figured he'd hammer the Bucks today...

[ALinChainz]

12 TD to Santoino Holmes.

34-14, 1:40 left in the 3rd.

Definitely nap time.

We've been a second half team all year. But now Hart pretty much disappearing now, have to pass.

Could still go to the Roses if Iowa beats Wisconsin.

Fucking Michigan.

[POJO_Risin]

And what a bitter sweet way to goto the Rose Bowl that would be...lmfao...

Damn I hope Iowa wins...

[Kristy]

Wooster? Did anyone say Wooster?

[ALinChainz]

OSU's defense.

Since our second score, dominant.

UM's ball at the 8 ... but going to be too little too late.

Can't stop Smith or Ginn.

Cancel that, Youboty picked off the pass.

Game over to me, OSU is going to pound it now.

I knew it would hinge on the freshman.

Hart came through but no carries, Henne blew it after good start.

OSU avgeraging 300 yds offense per game, over 400 today so far.

[ALinChainz]

On a brighter note, they just showed some hot Buckeye babes all juiced and loving it in the stands.

Gonna be some pipe being laid in Columbus tonight sports fans.

[ALinChainz]

Well, Edwards a 38 yd TD catch.

OSU drops kickoff but recovers.

Now getting conservative. 10 minutes left. Couple QB scrambles. OSU punt.

Fucking Michigan.

Need a score here too.

Make it intersting.

[ALinChainz]

71 yard punt.

Fucking Buckeyes.

[ALinChainz]

Michigan goes for it 4 down and 1.

Edwards tries to turn it up too soon and drops the fucker.

OSU ball.

[ALinChainz]

Michigan over on downs, 4 minutes left.

OSU going to win.

Fucking Michigan.

Pains me to say it, props to the Buckeyes at home.

[POJO_Risin]

I say props to Tressel...

you can say what you want to the guy...but he understands OSU football...

beat Michigan...

win a bowl game...

anything extra makes you Woody Hayes...and he does the extra...this is a down year for the Bucks...

they are stacked next year...

[POJO_Risin]

Now onto a better bowl than I ever thought...maybe even a new years dance party...just not a BCS...so be it...

[POJO_Risin]

Well...losing 3 out of 4 to the Bucks...can't look good on Carr's docket...

one more loss to the Buckeyes...and Michigan will be looking to upgrade...funny how a loss to one team can shape a coaches future...

[POJO_Risin]

Oh...and High Life...you're welcome...

[POJO_Risin]

And Wisconsin down 7-0 early....

lmfao...

can a kid have all his dreams come true?...

lmfao...

watch Michigan back into the rose bowl...

[POJO_Risin]

And Bama beating Auburn...

good...

[POJO_Risin]

alright Gents...I'm out...good luck High Life...looks like you'll need it...;)

[redblkwht]

HELL YEAH WE WON!!

Wisconsin lost..LMAO, ya had the shot high lifer..lol~

[POJO_Risin]

So Michigan gets into the fucking Rose Bowl...backing in...

well...like I have always said...getting to the Rose Bowl goes through Columbus...lmfao...not Cheese country...

better luck next time high life...