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Warham
09-01-2004, 07:43 AM
What a greeting!

This is like winning an Oscar! ...As if I would know! Speaking of acting, one of my movies was called "True Lies." It's what the Democrats should have called their convention.

My fellow Americans, this is an amazing moment for me. To think that a once scrawny boy from Austria could grow up to become Governor of California and stand in Madison Square Garden to speak on behalf of the President of the United States that is an immigrant's dream. It is the American dream.

I was born in Europe ...and I've traveled all over the world. I can tell you that there is no place, no country, more compassionate more generous more accepting and more welcoming than the United States of America.

As long as I live, I will never forget that day 21 years ago when I raised my hand and took the oath of citizenship.

Do you know how proud I was? I was so proud that I walked around with an American flag around my shoulders all day long.

Tonight, I want to talk about why I'm even more proud to be an American - why I'm proud to be a Republican and why I believe this country is in good hands.

When I was a boy, the Soviets occupied part of Austria. I saw their tanks in the streets. I saw communism with my own eyes. I remember the fear we had when we had to cross into the Soviet sector. Growing up, we were told, "Don't look the soldiers in the eye. Look straight ahead." It was a common belief that Soviet soldiers could take a man out of his own car and ship him off to the Soviet Union as slave labor.

My family didn't have a car - but one day we were in my uncle's car. It was near dark as we came to a Soviet checkpoint. I was a little boy, I wasn't an action hero back then, and I remember how scared I was that the soldiers would pull my father or my uncle out of the car and I'd never see him again. My family and so many others lived in fear of the Soviet boot. Today, the world no longer fears the Soviet Union and it is because of the United States of America!

As a kid I saw the socialist country that Austria became after the Soviets left. I love Austria and I love the Austrian people - but I always knew America was the place for me. In school, when the teacher would talk about America, I would daydream about coming here. I would sit for hours watching American movies transfixed by my heroes like John Wayne. Everything about America seemed so big to me so open, so possible.

I finally arrived here in 1968. I had empty pockets, but I was full of dreams. The presidential campaign was in full swing. I remember watching the Nixon and Humphrey presidential race on TV. A friend who spoke German and English, translated for me. I heard Humphrey saying things that sounded like socialism, which is what I had just left. But then I heard Nixon speak. He was talking about free enterprise, getting government off your back, lowering taxes and strengthening the military. Listening to Nixon speak sounded more like a breath of fresh air.

I said to my friend, "What party is he?" My friend said, "He's a Republican." I said, "Then I am a Republican!" And I've been a Republican ever since! And trust me, in my wife's family, that's no small achievement! I'm proud to belong to the party of Abraham Lincoln, the party of Teddy Roosevelt, the party of Ronald Reagan and the party of George W. Bush.

To my fellow immigrants listening tonight, I want you to know how welcome you are in this party. We Republicans admire your ambition. We encourage your dreams. We believe in your future. One thing I learned about America is that if you work hard and play by the rules, this country is truly open to you. You can achieve anything.

Everything I have my career my success my family I owe to America. In this country, it doesn't make any difference where you were born. It doesn't make any difference who your parents were. It doesn't make any difference if, like me, you couldn't even speak English until you were in your twenties.

America gave me opportunities and my immigrant dreams came true. I want other people to get the same chances I did, the same opportunities. And I believe they can. That's why I believe in this country, that's why I believe in this party and that's why I believe in this President.

Now, many of you out there tonight are "Republican" like me in your hearts and in your beliefs. Maybe you're from Guatemala. Maybe you're from the Philippines. Maybe Europe or the Ivory Coast. Maybe you live in Ohio, Pennsylvania or New Mexico. And maybe just maybe you don't agree with this party on every single issue. I say to you tonight I believe that's not only okay, that's what's great about this country. Here we can respectfully disagree and still be patriotic still be American and still be good Republicans.

My fellow immigrants, my fellow Americans, how do you know if you are a Republican? I'll tell you how.

If you believe that government should be accountable to the people, not the people to the government...then you are a Republican! If you believe a person should be treated as an individual, not as a member of an interest group... then you are a Republican! If you believe your family knows how to spend your money better than the government does... then you are a Republican! If you believe our educational system should be held accountable for the progress of our children ... then you are a Republican! If you believe this country, not the United Nations, is the best hope of democracy in the world ... then you are a Republican! And, ladies and gentlemen ...if you believe we must be fierce and relentless and terminate terrorism ... then you are a Republican!

There is another way you can tell you're a Republican. You have faith in free enterprise, faith in the resourcefulness of the American people ... and faith in the U.S. economy. To those critics who are so pessimistic about our economy, I say: "Don't be economic girlie men!"

The U.S. economy remains the envy of the world. We have the highest economic growth of any of the world's major industrialized nations. Don't you remember the pessimism of 20 years ago when the critics said Japan and Germany were overtaking the U.S.? Ridiculous!

Now they say India and China are overtaking us. Don't you believe it! We may hit a few bumps - but America always moves ahead! That's what Americans do!

We move prosperity ahead. We move freedom ahead. We move people ahead. Under President Bush and Vice President Cheney, America's economy is moving ahead in spite of a recession they inherited and in spite of the attack on our homeland.

Now, the other party says there are two Americas. Don't believe that either. I've visited our troops in Iraq, Kuwait, Bosnia, Germany and all over the world. I've visited our troops in California, where they train before they go overseas. And I've visited our military hospitals. And I can tell you this: Our young men and women in uniform do not believe there are two Americas!

They believe we are one America and they are fighting for it! We are one America - and President Bush is defending it with all his heart and soul!

That's what I admire most about the President. He's a man of perseverance.

He's a man of inner strength. He is a leader who doesn't flinch, doesn't waiver, does not back down. My fellow Americans, make no mistake about it terrorism is more insidious than communism, because it yearns to destroy not just the individual, but the entire international order. The President didn't go into Iraq because the polls told him it was popular. As a matter of fact, the polls said just the opposite. But leadership isn't about polls. It's about making decisions you think are right and then standing behind those decisions. That's why America is safer with George W. Bush as President.

He knows you don't reason with terrorists. You defeat them. He knows you can't reason with people blinded by hate. They hate the power of the individual. They hate the progress of women. They hate the religious freedom of others. They hate the liberating breeze of democracy. But ladies and gentlemen, their hate is no match for America's decency.

We're the America that sends out Peace Corps volunteers to teach village children. We're the America that sends out missionaries and doctors to raise up the poor and the sick. We're the America that gives more than any other country, to fight aids in Africa and the developing world. And we're the America that fights not for imperialism but for human rights and democracy.

You know, when the Germans brought down the Berlin Wall, America's determination helped wield the sledgehammers. When that lone, young Chinese man stood in front of those tanks in Tiananmen Square, America's hopes stood with him. And when Nelson Mandela smiled in election victory after all those years in prison, America celebrated, too.

We are still the lamp lighting the world especially for those who struggle. No matter in what labor camp, they slave no matter in what injustice they're trapped - they hear our call ... they see our light ... and they feel the pull of our freedom. They come here as I did because they believe. They believe in us.

They come because their hearts say to them, as mine did, "If only I can get to America." Someone once wrote - "There are those who say that freedom is nothing but a dream." They are right. It's the American dream.

No matter the nationality, no matter the religion, no matter the ethnic background, America brings out the best in people. And as Governor of the great state of California - I see the best in Americans every day ... our police, our firefighters our nurses, doctors and teachers, our parents.

And what about the extraordinary men and women who have volunteered to fight for the United States of America! I have such great respect for them and their heroic families.

Let me tell you about the sacrifice and commitment I've seen firsthand. In one of the military hospitals I visited, I met a young guy who was in bad shape. He'd lost a leg had a hole in his stomach ... his shoulder had been shot through.

I could tell there was no way he could ever return to combat. But when I asked him, "When do you think you'll get out of the hospital?" He said, "Sir, in three weeks." And do you know what he said to me then? He said he was going to get a new leg ... and get some therapy ... and then he was going back to Iraq to serve alongside his buddies! He grinned at me and said, "Arnold ... I'll be back!"

Ladies and gentlemen, America is back! Back from the attack on our homeland - back from the attack on our economy, back from the attack on our way of life. We're back because of the perseverance, character and leadership of the 43rd President of the United States, George W. Bush.

My fellow Americans ...I want you to know that I believe with all my heart that America remains "the great idea" that inspires the world. It's a privilege to be born here. It's an honor to become a citizen here. It's a gift to raise your family here to vote here and to live here.

Our president, George W. Bush, has worked hard to protect and preserve the American dream for all of us. That's why I say ... send him back to Washington for four more years!

Thank you, America - and God bless you all!

FORD
09-01-2004, 08:54 AM
Originally posted by Warham
Listening to Nixon speak sounded more like a breath of fresh air.

I said to my friend, "What party is he?" My friend said, "He's a Republican." I said, "Then I am a Republican!"

So Herr Gropenator is a crook?

Sgt Schultz
09-01-2004, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by FORD
So Herr Gropenator is a crook?

Right, the only thing Nixon did was orchestrate a 3rd rate burglary.

Elected for 2 terms, China, ending the Vietnam War...no biggie.........

Wayne L.
09-01-2004, 10:08 AM
Arnold Schwarznegger gave a great speech at the RNC while the so called controversy in the media about mentioning Richard Nixon who turned him on to becoming a Republican is LUDICRIOUS.

EmpyreLounge44
09-01-2004, 12:06 PM
needs to be re-written taking into account his accent for me to read it

BigBadBrian
09-01-2004, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by Warham
If you believe this country, not the United Nations, is the best hope of democracy in the world ... then you are a Republican!

Maybe I AM a Republican and not an Independent. :confused: :D :gulp:

BigBadBrian
09-01-2004, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by Warham


I met a young guy who was in bad shape. He'd lost a leg had a hole in his stomach ... his shoulder had been shot through.

I could tell there was no way he could ever return to combat. But when I asked him, "When do you think you'll get out of the hospital?" He said, "Sir, in three weeks." And do you know what he said to me then? He said he was going to get a new leg ... and get some therapy ... and then he was going back to Iraq to serve alongside his buddies! He grinned at me and said, "Arnold ... I'll be back!"



Hey Senator Paper Cut...are you taking notes? :D :D :D

Warham
09-01-2004, 01:33 PM
I thought it was a stirring speech.

I cheered many a time.

:D

Phil theStalker
09-01-2004, 01:38 PM
Warham, you're still on my ignore list till midnight tonight:D


Philly

Warham
09-01-2004, 01:39 PM
If you are ignoring me until tonight, then how come you are replying now?

Phil theStalker
09-01-2004, 01:42 PM
See, you wrote something else I can't see.

BBB is still on ignore, too.

Didn't I put him on ignore a day after you?

Y'all take care:D

BigBadBrian
09-01-2004, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by Phil theStalker
See, you wrote something else I can't see.

BBB is still on ignore, too.

Didn't I put him on ignore a day after you?

Y'all take care:D

How did you see my post then Phil? :)

Phil theStalker
09-01-2004, 01:46 PM
What are you talking about, BBB?

I can't see it.

hahaha

:D


P

Ally_Kat
09-01-2004, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
How did you see my post then Phil? :)

This person is on your Ignore List. To view this post click [here]

He either has no one on ignore or he does and he still can't help clicking [here] ;)

But anyway, the bit of telling someone they are on ignore is so old and stolen from the Joe Rogan board. *yawn*

Phil theStalker
09-01-2004, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by Ally_Kat
This person is on your Ignore List. To view this post click [here]

He either has no one on ignore or he does and he still can't help clicking [here] ;)

But anyway, the bit of telling someone they are on ignore is so old and stolen from the Joe Rogan board. *yawn*
I didn't click "here," little FBI sprout.

When you have someone on ignore a frame with their name shows up showing a post in that spot, but in the frame it says (to me): "You have this person on your ignore list."

And it goes on to say, "If you want to view this thread click [here].

I don't click on that, sprout.


You're a little drunk this early in the afternoon, ain't ya sprout:)



Oh yeah that's right.

The Ratgun board wuz da fir1st booad eva on da Intwatnet.

And evathing is stolen from theer.

Are you nutz Ally or just drunk:D


Ahhhh,

Oh yes,

It's Ally_Kat's PERIOD time !


Never mind:D



=PtS=
:spank:

Big Train
09-01-2004, 02:13 PM
I love Arnold. He is a great republican and probably the best out there now. Immigrants rights people can't say shit to him and liberals can't say shit to him. He has been on the other side of their arguments before, he knows firsthand what will happen with socialism and communism.

Ally_Kat
09-01-2004, 02:15 PM
oh, I'm an FBI sprout now! Well, then I guess your advisories for me don't count seeing how I'll be in on the deal according to your post in the other thread.

And Phil, you know that period joke can't work for two whole straight weeks. No one bleeds for two whole straight weeks. Pick a part of the month when you want to run that joke and cycle it.

Phil theStalker
09-01-2004, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by Ally_Kat
oh, I'm an FBI sprout now! Well, then I guess your advisories for me don't count seeing how I'll be in on the deal according to your post in the other thread.

And Phil, you know that period joke can't work for two whole straight weeks. No one bleeds for two whole straight weeks. Pick a part of the month when you want to run that joke and cycle it.
I wrote a post in another thread?

Huh


Ally_Kat are you stalking me?




=PtS=
:spank:

Phil theStalker
09-01-2004, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by Ally_Kat
And Phil, you know that period joke can't work for two whole straight weeks. No one bleeds for two whole straight weeks. Pick a part of the month when you want to run that joke and cycle it.

Eeeeew !

Do you have to talk like that, sprout?


Is this the Roth Army Health class?

Brush your vulva twice a day.

And after every sex act, sprout:D



=PtS=
:spank:

Ally_Kat
09-01-2004, 02:32 PM
I'll talk any way I want. What's wrong? You're the one concerned about the blood dripping out of my cunt.

Warham
09-01-2004, 02:53 PM
Phil likes Joe Rogan? That says it all right there.

DLR'sCock
09-01-2004, 06:44 PM
What fucking hypocrisy....geeeezzzuusss

When fucking Ahnnnuulllddddd speaks for the Repukes it's kool, when actor Ron Silver speaks for the repukes it's kool...and this is at the fucking GOP Convention....


I don't want to hear you bitches whine one more time about any musician or celbrity or actor that speaks their mind about any candidate...of course you only bitch when they endorse a Democrat or criticize a REPUKE...


I have no problem with anyone speaking their mind for whatever side of an issue they wish to address....but the hypocrisy from you guys...and most GOP supporters is so funny...

Big Train
09-01-2004, 07:09 PM
I said I liked Arnold, an ELECTED member of the GOP. Who said anything about Ron Silver?

jhale667
09-01-2004, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by Big Train
I love Arnold. He is a great republican and probably the best out there now. Immigrants rights people can't say shit to him and liberals can't say shit to him. He has been on the other side of their arguments before, he knows firsthand what will happen with socialism and communism.

I like Arnold. Moderate Republicans ain't so bad. I was laughing at Maria Shriver sitting there the whole time like "I don't agree with a word he says, but that's my baby!" I've got a question for you, Big Train, speaking of immigrant rights: What do you think about the bill they're tying to pass here (CA) to give illegal imigrants driver's licenses? I'm against it...and I'm supposed to be a 'liberal' according to you....just curious

Figs
09-01-2004, 08:47 PM
Arnold is a facist son-of-a-Nazi!!!! Blahhhhhh!!!!!

Phil theStalker
09-01-2004, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by Ally_Kat
I'll talk any way I want. What's wrong? You're the one concerned about the blood dripping out of my cunt.

..flappo, is this yoor sister?:)



=PtS=
:spank:

tobinentinc
09-01-2004, 10:44 PM
I thought Arnold gave a great speech. It was very impressive. Just goes to show you, that if you work hard, you can make something in you life. You don't need the government to help you. Gov. Schwarzenegger is doing a great job in California, and did a great job on his speech.

freak
09-01-2004, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by Ally_Kat
I'll talk any way I want. What's wrong? You're the one concerned about the blood dripping out of my cunt.


Originally posted by Big Train
I love Arnold. He is a great republican and probably the best out there now. Immigrants rights people can't say shit to him and liberals can't say shit to him. He has been on the other side of their arguments before, he knows firsthand what will happen with socialism and communism.

LMFAO!
Only on this message board.

Big Train
09-02-2004, 03:04 AM
Posted by Jhale:

I like Arnold. Moderate Republicans ain't so bad. I was laughing at Maria Shriver sitting there the whole time like "I don't agree with a word he says, but that's my baby!" I've got a question for you, Big Train, speaking of immigrant rights: What do you think about the bill they're tying to pass here (CA) to give illegal imigrants driver's licenses? I'm against it...and I'm supposed to be a 'liberal' according to you....just curious


It's an issue so out of whack it defies logic. My wife is latina, her parents were immigrants who were granted amnesity under Reagan. Her father is now a successful middle class businessman.

The problem with the immigrant situation (and I am a believer in their true rights), is that it is out of control and nobody is willing to admit it, for fear of being called a racist. The school systems, public works, traffic and all sorts of other things are just overwhelmed by it. The latino politicans are trying to throw out these bones like driver licenses that are just pointless and designed to make the immigrants beholden to them.

Why give them a drivers license if they are illegal? What logical purpose does it serve? It's a waste of time and money.

If they were serious about helping immigrants, they would close the border up tight (which is helpful for us as well, obviously) and would allow immigrants to apply to come here at a certain clip every year and get on a track to get their citizenship. That's what the deal says on paper, but it isn't the way it works. They should be allowed all legit services a citizen has, pay taxes and all that during this transistion. It should also be illegal to come here and have a baby, then the next day apply for a visa for you and family, as it would be a "hardship" on the US citizen baby to be away from his family (a popular move in the Asian Population).

This would allow them to move into american society quicker and without the fear of being found out, having to live a secret life. Until the politicians get that straight, we are all just blowing smoke.

The other half of the immigrant equation is to truly put pressure on Mexico to get their house in order, which would stem the tide to begin with. A lot of immigrants come here cause they have no choice, leaving families behind and wiring money from each paycheck home. That's no way to live, with your wife and kids far away. Pressuring Mexico and working with their economic and education system would be a great help. A long winded response, but it is something I am passionate about.

Big Train
09-02-2004, 03:06 AM
Freak,

Why shouldn't I like Arnold? Cause he is isn't trendy, holding a stupid "no to the draft" sign walking down a street in NY?

freak
09-02-2004, 07:35 AM
Originally posted by Big Train
Freak,

Why shouldn't I like Arnold? Cause he is isn't trendy, holding a stupid "no to the draft" sign walking down a street in NY?

Wasn't intimating that you shouldn't.

I was laughing at the fact that in the space of a few posts, this thread had veered back and forth between ovulation and politics.

Personally, I think anyone who stumbles off a boat speking no English to bust ass, learn the American way (Actually "get" what America is all about), become an actor and then governor of one of our largest states deserves a hell of a lot of respect.

:D

Seshmeister
09-02-2004, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by tobinentinc
Just goes to show you, that if you work hard and TAKE A TON OF DICK STRINKING STEROIDS SO YOU CAN CHEAT then you can make something in you life. You don't need the government to help you. Gov. Schwarzenegger is doing a great job in California, and did a great job on his speech.

:)

Cheers!

:gulp:

DeadOrAlive
09-02-2004, 10:03 AM
Arnolds speech was damn good.