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franksters
09-03-2004, 03:23 PM
I am so tired of the muslims ... everywhere they are there is trouble..

when there in minority they claim freedom of right but when they are a majority ,,everybody as to obey by there rules..

they make me sick, everytime there is something goin on in the world they are involve in it and saddly for the wrong reason..

the list of example is soooo long!

I think we should do like france and banned all religious sign in public places such as schools and govenment building library and so forth.

And if they don't like it they can always go back where they came from

unlike other religons they want to make the world muslim, I mean c'mon, look how they live ,how they treat there women..

imagine if they would take over the world...I just can't think of that...

don't ever forget that these people hate you if you are not the same as them, beware of the hypocrites,don't think that there are some good ones because sooner or later they will slap there wife and god knows what they are goin to do next..

ciao

FORD
09-03-2004, 03:42 PM
"beware of the hypocrites...."

Kinda funny coming from someone in QUEBEC

Because in Quebec, you're likely to be in one of two categories:

1) Either you are a native English speaker in a French province.

or

2) You're a native French speaker in a country that's predominately English speaking.

Either way, you would be a minority, and one would think, have some empathy for how a Judeo-Christian power structure has marginalized the Muslims.

You want to blame someone for terrorism? How about those who created the terrorists?

The CIA and Mossad are not comprised of Muslims.

ELVIS
09-03-2004, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Either way, you would be a minority, and one would think, have some empathy for how a Judeo-Christian power structure has marginalized the Muslims.

You want to blame someone for terrorism? How about those who created the terrorists?

The CIA and Mossad are not comprised of Muslims.

Terrorist sympathizer..

LoungeMachine
09-03-2004, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by franksters
I am so tired of the muslims ... everywhere they are there is trouble..

when there in minority they claim freedom of right but when they are a majority ,,everybody as to obey by there rules..

they make me sick, everytime there is something goin on in the world they are involve in it and saddly for the wrong reason..

the list of example is soooo long!

I think we should do like france and banned all religious sign in public places such as schools and govenment building library and so forth.

And if they don't like it they can always go back where they came from

unlike other religons they want to make the world muslim, I mean c'mon, look how they live ,how they treat there women..

imagine if they would take over the world...I just can't think of that...

don't ever forget that these people hate you if you are not the same as them, beware of the hypocrites,don't think that there are some good ones because sooner or later they will slap there wife and god knows what they are goin to do next..

ciao

Okay, here goes......

PLEASE READ THIS POST AGAIN, HOWEVER REPLACE THE WORD MUSLIM WITH THE WORD CHRISTIAN

Funny how that fits so well, eh?

Hey pot, kettle here........YOU'RE BLACK!

Every religion has kooks [see our own Elvis]

Every religion has "God" on their side

Every religion is responsible for genocide at some point in history

JCOOK
09-03-2004, 03:50 PM
Religion of peace my fucking ass!

franksters
09-03-2004, 03:52 PM
I think they marginalised them self alone,and your right about the mossad and the cia but they will not shop your head of if you don't beleive in the same religion and they will not raise you to be a martyr either so you can go bomb yourself in a public place.

and face it they don't wanna know nothing about you, how about the removal of the clitoris at age 10? what a nice way of life, how about living with no music and waking up at 5 am everyday to go pray for america to fall down ...

isn't that lovely?

ELVIS
09-03-2004, 04:01 PM
PLEASE READ THIS POST AGAIN, HOWEVER REPLACE THE WORD MUSLIM WITH THE WORD CHRISTIAN

Ok Loungefreak...

I am so tired of the christians ... everywhere they are there is trouble..

Not true...

when there in minority they claim freedom of right but when they are a majority ,,everybody as to obey by there rules..

Not true...

they make me sick, everytime there is something goin on in the world they are involve in it and saddly for the wrong reason..

Not true...

the list of example is soooo long!

I don't see any list...

I think we should do like france and banned all religious sign in public places such as schools and govenment building library and so forth.

Liberals are trying to accomplish this...

And if they don't like it they can always go back where they came from

Where would that be ??

unlike other religons they want to make the world christian, I mean c'mon, look how they live ,how they treat there women..

Christians live by the teachings of Christ. Christians treat their women with honer and respect...

imagine if they would take over the world...I just can't think of that...

You'll see when Jesus comes back...

don't ever forget that these people hate you if you are not the same as them, beware of the hypocrites,don't think that there are some good ones because sooner or later they will slap there wife and god knows what they are goin to do next..

I don't know of any christians who hate anyone. In fact, the opposite is true...




:elvis:

badhorsie
09-03-2004, 04:02 PM
If you live in United States or Canada you could say you live in a christian dominant land and how long ago was it when women finally got specific rights and were allowed to have certain roles in job fields?

Muslims are the only ones try to covert people? Is that why i get Jesus freaks standing outside malls/churches/concerts/move theaters telling me that my beliefs are wrong because I'm not on the same page as them?

Do you not recall any of the wars created in God's name from ANY religion?

Listen to Lounge he's making some sense.


All belief systems are flawed and cause both positive and negative aspects to our society.

*hail zeus the true god*

LoungeMachine
09-03-2004, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS

I don't know of any christians who hate anyone. In fact, the opposite is true...




:elvis: [/B]


Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaah

No, seriously. Get real.

Christianity is full of HATE, GUILT, PERSECUTION, OBEDIENCE, INTOLERANCE, AND HYPOCRICY.

But I respect your right to be led like a Lamb to slaughter.

Me, I prefer to think for myself.

badhorsie
09-03-2004, 04:19 PM
The christians that express hate(or general negative acts) are described by other christians as " not a TRUE christian".

franksters
09-03-2004, 04:23 PM
I just don't see anything good coming out of the muslims world.

if you want me to give you a list:

911
us ambassad bomb in africa
children school in russia
killing of a reporter
kidnapping of 2 french reporter
a jewish school burn in montreal
kamikaze every week in israel
spain train bombing
bosnia herzegovine
africa about ten country
phillipines bombing weekly
irak
serbia
afganistan
france hijab

of course you can replace the word muslim by any word,and I am not proud of the mistake we have made like slavery, or racism..

but I think that in 2004 this sort of thing is unnacceptable and would not be tolerated by anyone.

so if you like the muslim so much why don't you become one so you could explode in a shopping center.

Lsten i am just sick and tired to see all this shit everytime i turn on the tv.

badhorsie
09-03-2004, 04:30 PM
Perhaps you should read about all the negative aspects that have arised from Jewish,Christian,etc etc faiths.

You'd be in for quite a surprise.

Satan
09-03-2004, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by franksters
your right about the mossad and the cia but they will not shop your head of if you don't beleive in the same religion and they will not raise you to be a martyr either so you can go bomb yourself in a public place.



I wouldn't be too sure of that. Some of the guys who chopped off Nick Berg's head were over 6' tall, with a muscular build that comes from working out in a gym, not wandering around a desert. It was what was known as a "black op" in the intelligence business, designed for the pure psychological impact of outrage which it inspired. Not that people shouldn't be outraged at such grisly violence, but they're buying into the lies constructed around it.

As for the suicide bombers, it's very likely that these people are NOT operating of their own free will, and that they are programmed by Mossad, which has shared mind control techniques with the CIA for decades.

I believe that a test case (http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/news/081904_nw_bankrobbery.html) for suicide bombers has already been tried in this country, but the programming somehow failed, and the poor guy regained full consciousness in time to plead for his life with authorities, but not to prevent his own death. Which raises the possibility that the detanator was remote controlled, and that those who planted the bomb on the poor bastard are the ones who detonated it. And there's no reason the same thing couldn't be happening all over the Middle East, triggered by Mossad and/or Likud operatives who benefit from continued violent tensions with the Palestinians.

The mentality that controls the current governments of the USA and Israel puts their own power above all else, including the security of their own citizens, let alone the people of other countries.

And as anyone who has been around a junkie can tell you, when you're an addict, NOTHING comes before that drug. Not your significant other. Not your family. Not your job. NOTHING.

Power is a drug for the PNAC/BCE/Mossad/CIA beast. And absolute power corrupts absolutely.

franksters
09-03-2004, 04:33 PM
You are absolutly right about that but lately.....not much on the subject...

and the jews they don't care what you do ..if they can cash in on it

they own america anyway.

franksters
09-03-2004, 04:39 PM
satan i agree with what your sayin but would you like to live in a muslim controlled country?

Satan
09-03-2004, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by franksters
satan i agree with what your sayin but would you like to live in a muslim controlled country?

I live in Hell. You might say it's a "Satanist controlled country", for down here, I am both religion AND state. :)

secrets
09-03-2004, 05:42 PM
My own advice would be to read books, preferably ones that contain some historical facts, as opposed to burning them.

Get over your racist and stereotypical views of minority groups you morons.

Islam and muslims are not the problem. Islam and indeed most world religions are positive since they preach peace and love of fellow man.

It is individuals, some Muslim as in the case of Bin Laden and his fanatical followers, that are responsible for hatred and violence in this world.

You can't change this world, but you can change youself.

LoungeMachine
09-03-2004, 06:08 PM
Amen

BigBadBrian
09-03-2004, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine


Me, I prefer to think for myself.

You just don't do it very well. :gulp:

ELVIS
09-03-2004, 07:09 PM
uhh huhu hu hu huh uh huhu

:D

WolfStar999
09-07-2004, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by secrets
My own advice would be to read books, preferably ones that contain some historical facts, as opposed to burning them.

Get over your racist and stereotypical views of minority groups you morons.

Islam and muslims are not the problem. Islam and indeed most world religions are positive since they preach peace and love of fellow man.

It is individuals, some Muslim as in the case of Bin Laden and his fanatical followers, that are responsible for hatred and violence in this world.

You can't change this world, but you can change youself.


I'll raise a toast to that!

And btw, Frankster...removal of the clitoris (also known as FGM, Female Genital Mutilation) is not practiced or condoned by the Muslim faith. That's an African tribal ritual, which is thankfully going the way of the Dodo and Crystal Pepsi. Bad enough that you're being acting like an ethnocentrist and a religious bigot, but being witness to someone's stupidity really makes me livid. Get your facts straight, you idiotic jack-off, before I dick-slap you upside the head!

jhale667
09-07-2004, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by secrets
Get over your racist and stereotypical views of minority groups you morons.



Exactly. That kind of thinking is what clouds and corrupts ALL religions.

Ally_Kat
09-07-2004, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by franksters
I just don't see anything good coming out of the muslims world.

if you want me to give you a list:

911
us ambassad bomb in africa
children school in russia
killing of a reporter
kidnapping of 2 french reporter
a jewish school burn in montreal
kamikaze every week in israel
spain train bombing
bosnia herzegovine
africa about ten country
phillipines bombing weekly
irak
serbia
afganistan
france hijab

of course you can replace the word muslim by any word,and I am not proud of the mistake we have made like slavery, or racism..

but I think that in 2004 this sort of thing is unnacceptable and would not be tolerated by anyone.

so if you like the muslim so much why don't you become one so you could explode in a shopping center.

Lsten i am just sick and tired to see all this shit everytime i turn on the tv.

Dude, extremists. Their actions are not condoned by their faith. Trust me, I have many friends of the Islamic faith. It's the extremists of their faith and they aren't the only ones who have it. You have Christian extremists who go and bomb abortion clinics. You can't blame everyone within the faith or of a culture because there's a group that goes to the extreme.

Ally_Kat
09-07-2004, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by franksters
I think we should do like france and banned all religious sign in public places such as schools and govenment building library and so forth.


See, we have this thing called freedom of religion. I believe it would be unConstitutional to say that people can't wear religious signs when they are outside of their home. And if that law ever went into effect, that would be when I would get the most gaudy crucifix and would wear it 24/7.

Jesus Christ
09-07-2004, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by Ally_Kat
See, we have this thing called freedom of religion. I believe it would be unConstitutional to say that people can't wear religious signs when they are outside of their home. And if that law ever went into effect, that would be when I would get the most gaudy crucifix and would wear it 24/7.

Please don't do that! Even I, the Messiah get tired of being reminded of the worst day of My life :(

jhale667
09-07-2004, 05:31 PM
Wasn't that a Bill Hicks riff? "Man, if Jesus ever DOES come back don't you think the LAST THING HE EVER F*ING WANTS TO SEE IS ANOTHER CRUCIFIX?!?!?!?" ---LOL

Jesus Christ
09-07-2004, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by jhale667
Wasn't that a Bill Hicks riff? "Man, if Jesus ever DOES come back don't you think the LAST THING HE EVER F*ING WANTS TO SEE IS ANOTHER CRUCIFIX?!?!?!?" ---LOL

Well, it is true, actually. I have no problem with any of My children who use it as a reminder of what I did for them 2000 years ago. But verily, nobody needeth to remind Me, if ye knoweth what I mean.

frenchie
09-07-2004, 06:05 PM
muslims and terrorits are two differents things!!!!!!
france is a country of peace!!!!!

franksters
02-09-2006, 07:49 PM
I said it first...

FORD
02-09-2006, 08:00 PM
How many Allah damned Muslim bashing threads do we need?

Why doesn't somebody do something different for a change, like maybe...

"Choke on a Big Mac, you Hindu bastards"

or

"Buddha was reincarnated as Barbara Bush"

or

"Fucking America hating door knocking Jehova's Witness motherfuckers"

Just a few examples of other religions some of you could bash mindlessly........

franksters
02-09-2006, 08:20 PM
How many more bush and cheney thread do we need?

This is an old thread of mine, and the 2 years that have past just prooved me that I wasn't all wrong, give these people an inch and they'll take a whole yard...

now back to bush and cheney!

4moreyears
02-09-2006, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by secrets
My own advice would be to read books, preferably ones that contain some historical facts, as opposed to burning them.

Get over your racist and stereotypical views of minority groups you morons.

Islam and muslims are not the problem. Islam and indeed most world religions are positive since they preach peace and love of fellow man.

It is individuals, some Muslim as in the case of Bin Laden and his fanatical followers, that are responsible for hatred and violence in this world.

You can't change this world, but you can change youself.

I would agree. Although I do not know many people of Islam, most people are peaceful. The people burning American flags are a small extreme whacko faction. Sound like anyone we know Ford???

franksters
02-09-2006, 08:32 PM
small faction my ass...GUYS btw this is only the beginning...

AFGHANISTAN:
Taliban fighting back, but continues losing ground as new government slowly extends control. But independent minded tribes, warlords and drug gangs still stand in the way of peace, prosperity and true national unity.

ALGERIA :
Islamic rebels fading away, but a general uprising looms because of dissatisfaction with the old revolutionaries that refuse to honor election results or share power.

BALKANS :

The Greater Albania Movement is driven by part time Albanian nationalists, full time gangsters and a growing number of Islamic radicals. Bosnia continues to attract Islamic terrorists.

CENTRAL ASIA :

Dictators brew rebellion by suppressing democrats and Islamic radicals.

INDIA-PAKISTAN:

Kashmir is but one of many rebellions that beset the region. But India and Pakistan have nukes, making escalation a potential catastrophe. Recent peace talks have lowered the possibility of war, but both sides continue an arms race.

INDONESIA

Separatism, pirates, Islamic terrorists and government corruption create a volatile situation that is slowly calming down.

IRAN

Minority of Islamic conservatives have veto power over the majority of reformers. The supply of peaceful solutions is drying up. After that comes another revolution. Meanwhile, the Islamic conservatives are determined to build nuclear weapons.

IRAQ

Sunni Arab minority makes peace with the majority Kurds and Shia Arabs. But Sunni Arab Islamic radicals still back terrorism attacks against government and Shia Arabs (who are considered heretics).

ISRAEL

Jewish and Palestinian radicals continue to confront peacemakers. The Palestinian people got tired of terrorism and are trying to work out a peace deal with Israel.

PHILIPPINES

Islamic minority in the south wants it's own country, and expulsion of non-Moslems. Communist rebels in the north fight for social justice and a dictatorship.

RUSSIA

Rebuilding and reforming the Soviet era armed forces and fighting gangsters and Islamic radicals in Chechnya.

THAILAND

Moslems in the south have a different religion than most Thais, and are different ethnically as well (they are Malays). Islamic radicalism has arrived, along with an armed effort to create a separate Islamic state among the few million people in the area.

WAR ON TERROR

International terrorism has created a international backlash and a war unlike any other.

FORD
02-09-2006, 08:48 PM
Did you ever consider that there are other forces at work here and you are being manipulated to hate Muslims?

Think about it..... look at a sophisticated military operation such as 9-11-01.

This was a professionally timed hit, which depended upon INSIDE KNOWLEDGE of the United States government (most especially the fact that "drills" were scheduled for the same day.)

Yet people are led to believe that such an amazingly executed operation was coordinated by 19 kids with a 12th century mentality???

How the hell can anyone's logical mind make that leap??

This is the EXACT FUCKING SAME PROPAGANDA HITLER USED AGAINST THE JEWS.

Do we really need to go back there again? Do we need 50 million more fucking corpses before the lesson is learned, from those who blindly ignore history???

franksters
02-09-2006, 09:00 PM
So what's your proposal?

I tought that possibly the jews made 9/11 possible in some way so the big US of A would do what they did, that is also a possibility, but that is not the point of this issue, for me the whole concept of life is to be free, if you don't want that, than go right ahead and move to a place where you are not allowed and stay there...

Between you and me, you damn know that they won't stop cause it's been going on for thousands of years, but this week-end, in montreal
there will be a muslim gathering in front of some diplomatic embassy,

I DON'T WANT THIS SHIT HERE!
If they don't like it here they can leave.

See that's how it's reaching us baby steps, give it another 10 years, you'll see what happens...

ashstralia
02-09-2006, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Yet people are led to believe that such an amazingly executed operation was coordinated by 19
kids with a 12th century mentality???

no, it was coordinated by a rich crazy man with family ties to your govt.

LoungeMachine
02-09-2006, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by franksters
How many more bush and cheney thread do we need?



Depends on how long the Impeachment Hearings drag out.

:cool:

LoungeMachine
02-09-2006, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by ashstralia
no, it was coordinated by a rich crazy man with family ties to your govt.

He had a lot of help within our own government, ash.

Just watch.

:cool:

LoungeMachine
02-09-2006, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by franksters
So what's your proposal?

...


Annex Canada for starters.

:cool:

FORD
02-09-2006, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by ashstralia
no, it was coordinated by a rich crazy man with family ties to your govt.

He had business ties as well as family ties. With no evidence that he ever stopped doing business with them. And he would have to still be doing business with them if we are to believe that his 19 boy scouts just happenned to pick the same day that Uncle Dick was running a "simulation".

FORD
02-09-2006, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Annex Canada for starters.

:cool:

That was done with their last election. They just won't know it until "Al Qaeda" blows up Toronto and their "Liberal" party turns on them like the DLC senators turned on us.

ashstralia
02-09-2006, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
He had a lot of help within our own government, ash.

Just watch.

:cool:

i just can't get my head around these conspiracy theories....

i spose it's easily possible that intel can fall into the wrong hands.

anyhow, the muslim extremists want you and me dead, so i say let's hit 'em first.

franksters
02-09-2006, 09:20 PM
So what's your plan Ford? annex Canada and then what? take over the world!!!

ashstralia
02-09-2006, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by FORD
He had business ties as well as family ties. With no evidence that he ever stopped doing business with them. And he would have to still be doing business with them if we are to believe that his 19 boy scouts just happenned to pick the same day that Uncle Dick was running a "simulation".

i don't dispute that the day was the perfect opportunity, ford.
he would've known that possibly years in advance.

i'm just postulating that what you credit to an evil inside job,
was probably just an intel ball-drop.

someone leaked something, probably for big $$$, which gave osama
a firm date to set in motion a well thought out, but ultimately simple, plan
of attack.

Nitro Express
02-09-2006, 09:30 PM
It's simple Ford, non of the other religions want to kill us. Mormons really irritate the hell out of me but I haven't seen any cutting off heads or blowing things up in the name of Joseph Smith.

franksters
02-09-2006, 09:30 PM
You know what, in the end who did the actions?
Who is claiming for these actions?

This is just the beginning guys.

franksters
02-09-2006, 09:38 PM
I say there should be lot's of fuckin cartoon like this one.

FORD
02-09-2006, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by Nitro Express
It's simple Ford, non of the other religions want to kill us. Mormons really irritate the hell out of me but I haven't seen any cutting off heads or blowing things up in the name of Joseph Smith.

Where is your evidence that Muslims want to kill me??

The 6 ft tall white skinned ski mask wearing assholes who spoke Arabic about as well as I do in the "beheading" videos certainly isn't evidence.

A composite sketch that some fucking PNAC'er gave a name to (Hopalong Zarqawi) isn't evidence.

And despite the common acceptance of the story, the BCE never offerred one single goddamned piece of evidence that Osama Bin Laden and his alleged associates attacked this country.

All we have to go on is the word of the Bush Criminal Empire.

And their word is worthless. Somebody lies to me once, I might forgive them. They lie to me twice - not a fucking chance. Chimp has lied continuously for the last five fucking years.

Proof. Someone show me some, goddammit! :mad:

franksters
02-09-2006, 10:06 PM
Ford I know you want to be nice and politically correct, but I think you are being too soft coated right now.

what will you need to see that this debate is going nowhere....

Allah is the boss: you either join them or you can only fight them...

because if you don't they will eventually take control...sometimes when I ear comments like this I think they already did!

Nickdfresh
02-09-2006, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
Terrorist sympathizer..

Dumbass, backward hick...

Nickdfresh
02-09-2006, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by franksters
Ford I know you want to be nice and politically correct, but I think you are being too soft coated right now.

what will you need to see that this debate is going nowhere....

Allah is the boss: you either join them or you can only fight them...

because if you don't they will eventually take control...sometimes when I ear comments like this I think they already did!

All I know is that if you think of it as a monolithic "them," you're probably fucking retarded....

Just substitute the word Jew for Muslim next time, and see how it sounds...

Nitro Express
02-09-2006, 10:20 PM
Ford. I guess the govt. fabricated the moon landings too just so some fat cats could make some huge $$$$$$$$$$.

Wake up dude, you are too focused on Bush and blind to reality.

blonddgirl777
02-09-2006, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by franksters
I say there should be lot's of fuckin cartoon like this one.

Cartoons...
And REAL bombs on those fuck'n turbans!
R.O.T.F.L.M.F.A.O.!!!

Nitro Express
02-09-2006, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
Cartoons...
And REAL bombs on those fuck'n turbans!


Rock the casba! Can we start calling them ragheads now or is that still pollitically incorrect?

blonddgirl777
02-09-2006, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by Nitro Express
Rock the casba! Can we start calling them ragheads now or is that still pollitically incorrect?

P.C. my ass!
P.C. is for pussys that don't want to "disturb"... it's like "Prozac"...

RAGheads?
I wouldn't eaven wash my toilet with such smelly cloths! :(

blonddgirl777
02-09-2006, 10:31 PM
P.C...

I've been called a hore, dum blonde, and all kinds of sexist stuff on that board...

I'll be damn if I can't speak my mind and make "jokes" here!

Nickdfresh
02-09-2006, 10:31 PM
How many North American Muslims have conducted terror attacks BTW? I bet the NA Christians far outnumber them in the death toll of terror, crime, and addictions...

But, let's just put green crescents on their clothing, and then march them into ghettos, soon to be followed by gas chambers...:rolleyes:

FORD
02-09-2006, 10:32 PM
How about I retitle all these Muslim bashing threads?

I could call this one "Jews". And then another could be "******izing America". And then how about "Cartoons that really piss off French Canadians".

Think the responses would be the same?

blonddgirl777
02-09-2006, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
...But, let's just put green crescents on their clothing, and then march them into ghettos, soon to be followed by gas chambers...:rolleyes:

No, let's just sit there and wait until THEY do it to US all!
That way, history will tell that we where the "good ones" who lost...

blonddgirl777
02-09-2006, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by FORD
..."Cartoons that really piss off French Canadians"....

Bring' em on!
WE, here have a sens of humor and the ones who don't... wont want to protest agressively or kill you for it...

Nickdfresh
02-09-2006, 10:41 PM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
No, let's just sit there and wait until THEY do it to US all!
That way, history will tell that we where the "good ones" who lost...

Substitute a little of the terminology, and this could easily be post-WWI NAZI propaganda, EVA...

I think some "Christians" have done some pretty putrid stuff that goes beyond rage rioting...

And since when to Franco-phone Canadians get a free pass

I recall hearing about a lot of anti-English riots, and even terrorist bombings, in the early 1970's...

I mean, what would French-Canadians say if the signs in Canada had to be all English from now on, instead of that annoying bilingual stuff?

FORD
02-09-2006, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh


I mean, what would French-Canadians say if the signs in Canada had to be all English form now on, instead of that annoying bilingual stuff?

Only if they get rid of that fucking metric system along with it!

blonddgirl777
02-09-2006, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Substitute a little of the terminology, and this could easily be post-WWI NAZI propaganda, EVA...

I think some "Christians" have done some pretty putrid stuff that goes beyond rage rioting...

And since when to Franco-phone Canadians get a free pass

I recall hearing about a lot of anti-English riots, and even terrorist bombings, in the early 1970's...

I mean, what would French-Canadians say if the signs in Canada had to be all English form now on, instead of that annoying bilingual stuff?

Revise your history book...
You are comparing apples and oranges!

And call me what you want... EVA, Nazzi... I don't care!
Bottom line is, I make you mad, you get mad and CALL ME NAMES...

blonddgirl777
02-09-2006, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Only if they get rid of that fucking metric system along with it!

Metric system?... talk to the rest of the world as well!

blonddgirl777
02-09-2006, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
...I mean, what would French-Canadians say if the signs in Canada had to be all English from now on, instead of that annoying bilingual stuff?

So...
The Muslims are O.K. but what goes on here... outside your country is annoying?

How does OUR bilinguism (our culture) annoys YOU?
(Besides my spelling mistakes)...

Nickdfresh
02-09-2006, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
So...
The Muslims are O.K. but what goes on here... outside your country is annoying?

I find it annoying when people, the majority being hardworking and lawful, are colored with a brush in a wide swath...

Read Edward SAID's "Orientalism," and you'll know where I'm coming from...


How does OUR bilinguism (our culture) annoys YOU?
(Besides my spelling mistakes)...

It doesn't really. I actually like French culture to some extent, and I don't mind it when I have French writing on my Tim Hortons Coffee can at all. My point is that many Francophone Canadians would themselves take to the streets if bilingualism were rolled back...

Nickdfresh
02-09-2006, 10:59 PM
Emory U. (http://www.english.emory.edu/Bahri/Orientalism.html)

Edward Said's evaluation and critique of the set of beliefs known as Orientalism forms an important background for postcolonial studies. His work highlights the inaccuracies of a wide variety of assumptions as it questions various paradigms of thought which are accepted on individual, academic, and political levels.

The Terms

The Orient signifies a system of representations framed by political forces that brought the Orient into Western learning, Western consciousness, and Western empire. The Orient exists for the West, and is constructed by and in relation to the West. It is a mirror image of what is inferior and alien ("Other") to the West.

Orientalism is "a manner of regularized (or Orientalized) writing, vision, and study, dominated by imperatives, perspectives, and ideological biases ostensibly suited to the Orient." It is the image of the 'Orient' expressed as an entire system of thought and scholarship.

The Oriental is the person represented by such thinking. The man is depicted as feminine, weak, yet strangely dangerous because poses a threat to white, Western women. The woman is both eager to be dominated and strikingly exotic. The Oriental is a single image, a sweeping generalization, a stereotype that crosses countless cultural and national boundaries.

Latent Orientalism is the unconscious, untouchable certainty about what the Orient is. Its basic content is static and unanimous. The Orient is seen as separate, eccentric, backward, silently different, sensual, and passive. It has a tendency towards despotism and away from progress. It displays feminine penetrability and supine malleability. Its progress and value are judged in terms of, and in comparison to, the West, so it is always the Other, the conquerable, and the inferior.

Manifest Orientalism is what is spoken and acted upon. It includes information and changes in knowledge about the Orient as well as policy decisions founded in Orientalist thinking. It is the expression in words and actions of Latent Orientalism.
Earlier Orientalism
The first 'Orientalists' were 19th century scholars who translated the writings of 'the Orient' into English, based on the assumption that a truly effective colonial conquest required knowledge of the conquered peoples. This idea of knowledge as power is present throughout Said's critique. By knowing the Orient, the West came to own it. The Orient became the studied, the seen, the observed, the object; Orientalist scholars were the students, the seers, the observers, the subject. The Orient was passive; the West was active.

http://www.english.emory.edu/Bahri/Orientalism.jpeg
French harem fantasy with a black eunuch servant. The link between popularized orientalism and libidinization is obvious. "Les petits voyages de Paris-Plaisirs."--Paris Plaisir, Feb. 1930. (Image and text from Jan Nederveen Pieterse's White on Black: Images of Africa and Blacks in Western Popular Culture. New Haven: Yale UP, 1992)

One of the most significant constructions of Orientalist scholars is that of the Orient itself. What is considered the Orient is a vast region, one that spreads across a myriad of cultures and countries. It includes most of Asia as well as the Middle East. The depiction of this single 'Orient' which can be studied as a cohesive whole is one of the most powerful accomplishments of Orientalist scholars. It essentializes an image of a prototypical Oriental--a biological inferior that is culturally backward, peculiar, and unchanging--to be depicted in dominating and sexual terms. The discourse and visual imagery of Orientalism is laced with notions of power and superiority, formulated initially to facilitate a colonizing mission on the part of the West and perpetuated through a wide variety of discourses and policies. The language is critical to the construction. The feminine and weak Orient awaits the dominance of the West; it is a defenseless and unintelligent whole that exists for, and in terms of, its Western counterpart. The importance of such a construction is that it creates a single subject matter where none existed, a compilation of previously unspoken notions of the Other. Since the notion of the Orient is created by the Orientalist, it exists solely for him or her. Its identity is defined by the scholar who gives it life.
Contemporary Orientalism
Said argues that Orientalism can be found in current Western depictions of "Arab" cultures. The depictions of "the Arab" as irrational, menacing, untrustworthy, anti-Western, dishonest, and--perhaps most importantly--prototypical, are ideas into which Orientalist scholarship has evolved. These notions are trusted as foundations for both ideologies and policies developed by the Occident. Said writes: "The hold these instruments have on the mind is increased by the institutions built around them. For every Orientalist, quite literally, there is a support system of staggering power, considering the ephemerality of the myths that Orientalism propagates. The system now culminates into the very institutions of the state. To write about the Arab Oriental world, therefore, is to write with the authority of a nation, and not with the affirmation of a strident ideology but with the unquestioning certainty of absolute truth backed by absolute force." He continues, "One would find this kind of procedure less objectionable as political propaganda--which is what it is, of course--were it not accompanied by sermons on the objectivity, the fairness, the impartiality of a real historian, the implication always being that Muslims and Arabs cannot be objective but that Orientalists. . .writing about Muslims are, by definition, by training, by the mere fact of their Westernness. This is the culmination of Orientalism as a dogma that not only degrades its subject matter but also blinds its practitioners."

Said's Project

Said Thinking

Said calls into question the underlying assumptions that form the foundation of Orientalist thinking. A rejection of Orientalism entails a rejection of biological generalizations, cultural constructions, and racial and religious prejudices. It is a rejection of greed as a primary motivating factor in intellectual pursuit. It is an erasure of the line between 'the West' and 'the Other.' Said argues for the use of "narrative" rather than "vision" in interpreting the geographical landscape known as the Orient, meaning that a historian and a scholar would turn not to a panoramic view of half of the globe, but rather to a focused and complex type of history that allows space for the dynamic variety of human experience. Rejection of Orientalist thinking does not entail a denial of the differences between 'the West' and 'the Orient,' but rather an evaluation of such differences in a more critical and objective fashion. 'The Orient' cannot be studied in a non-Orientalist manner; rather, the scholar is obliged to study more focused and smaller culturally consistent regions. The person who has until now been known as 'the Oriental' must be given a voice. Scholarship from afar and second-hand representation must take a back seat to narrative and self-representation on the part of the 'Oriental.'

Links for more info:

http://sun3.lib.uci.edu/~scctr/Wellek/said/index.html

http://nias.ku.dk/Nytt/Thematic/Orientalism/tableoutline.html

http://www.mag.keio.ac.jp/~akko/said.html

blonddgirl777
02-09-2006, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
... My point is that many Francophone Canadians would themselves take to the streets if bilingualism were rolled back...

For sure!
What (live) country doesn't ever protest?

But Muslims don't just "protest"... they terrorise AROUND THE WORLD!
We don't...

Nickdfresh
02-09-2006, 11:07 PM
A few Muslims have terrorized around the world, and they do so because they've a failed ideology that has not really taken more than two gov'ts, one of which was invaded and deposed by the US/NATO (Afghanistan)...

LoungeMachine
02-09-2006, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Dumbass, backward hick...


:lol:

LoungeMachine
02-09-2006, 11:39 PM
Originally posted by Nitro Express


focused on Bush and blind to reality.



Jesus, that's fucking priceless :rolleyes:

LoungeMachine
02-09-2006, 11:44 PM
We invade, torture, kidnap, and pay our own private contractors to rip us off of Billions, ignoring thousands of years of history, destroy the infrastructure, set up elections, build 14 permanent military bases as well as the world's largest, most expensive Embasseys.........

and we still haven't won the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people?

Jeez, what's a chimp supposed to do?

Nitro Express
02-10-2006, 01:00 AM
The French have typically been accussed of being whimps but here we have a French Canadian blonde ready to fight for her rights and isn't going to get rolled by any agressor. Does this mean Napolean rides again and this time he's a she?

Nitro Express
02-10-2006, 01:18 AM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Jesus, that's fucking priceless :rolleyes:

The Bush Administration is a blip. A small pimple on the ass of a bigger, way bigger problem. Bush's second term will end here soon and another president and administration will take his place. My question is who are you guys going to blame if Hillary wins? Islamic radicles will still be blowing things up and killing people.

Sept 11 was caused by some Islamic terrorists who took over airpliners and flew them into some buildings. What is so damn complicated about that? You give some guys some flight training, have some muscle to take the plane over and keep the passengers at bay, you read the flight schedual and hijack flights in the appropriate areas and flight times. What's so fucking complicated about it?

Sure George W. Bush has powerful political ties and his family is influencial. Not to mention he's a skull and boner from Yale with all the ties that come from it. Is George W. Bush a puppet to Dick Chenney? Yup. The Vice President is really running things and it's so obviouse. He's been a disaster of a president during some hard trying times. But the reality is influencial people have made $$$$$$ in other wars. That's life. You are so blinded by the faults of the president that you blow him up to be some brilliant, James Bond villian who has secret weapons and manipulates the world when in reality, he's just a lousey president who has backers who have taken advantage of the situation. Nothing new there.

Then next president will bring in their own corruption. You can't trust politicians and that is why we have a system of checks and balances. The country has survived Civil War and depressions. We've been in worse and got through it. I think we will survive George W. Bush. He will be gone soon but the radicle Islamic problem won't.

blonddgirl777
02-10-2006, 01:28 AM
Originally posted by Nitro Express
The French have typically been accussed of being whimps but here we have a French Canadian blonde ready to fight for her rights and isn't going to get rolled by any agressor. Does this mean Napolean rides again and this time he's a she?

What a compliment! (Really) :)

Yes... Napoleon was quite a "fighter" but unfortunately, he DID let us (the French colonised) down,
right when we needed him the most! :mad:

King's orders!

Nitro Express
02-10-2006, 01:42 AM
Well he did sell the Louisianna Territory to us cheap and we added a nice slice of land to the US. Napolean was desperate to raise cash to finance his war. I guess Canada wasn't worth much. He probably would have sold you to the British but he didn't want to finance his enemies. LOL!

Nitro Express
02-10-2006, 01:44 AM
We should give the Northwest territories back to Great Britian. Ford lives there and they deserve him. LOL!

FORD
02-10-2006, 02:07 AM
Originally posted by Nitro Express
We should give the Northwest territories back to Great Britian. Ford lives there and they deserve him. LOL!

And why don't we give Wyoming back to the Cheyenne and the Arapaho while we're at it. Most people there would probably do so willingly if it meant keeping the Cheneys out forever.

Nitro Express
02-10-2006, 05:34 AM
Yup the Cheneys have a home right here in Jackson Hole. Not that I'm proud of that. He's trying to use his influence to get fedral land oked to expand our airport.

I like Wyoming. We have no state income tax and tax our oil exports. Our state runs a budget surplus and I can do a bunch of things that are illegal in most states. It's almost as good as Nevada. LOL!

jero
02-10-2006, 05:47 AM
terrible people!

FORD
02-10-2006, 11:40 AM
Who, the Cheneys?

scamper
02-10-2006, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
I find it annoying when people, the majority being hardworking and lawful, are colored with a brush in a wide swath...


Sounds like you when you talk shit about Christians

diamondD
02-10-2006, 01:25 PM
Ouch...

Angel
02-10-2006, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by Nitro Express
We should give the Northwest territories back to Great Britian. Ford lives there and they deserve him. LOL!

Ford lives in Canada now? The Northwest Territories are in the Canadian North...

Angel
02-10-2006, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by franksters
how about the removal of the clitoris at age 10?

Nowhere in the Qu'ran is this mentioned, it's an old tribal practice, and in fact Mohammed preached AGAINST this very act.

Perhaps you need to study more theology before making statements such as these, like many, your ignorance of the facts start to show.

FORD
02-10-2006, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by Angel
Ford lives in Canada now? The Northwest Territories are in the Canadian North...

A little cold for my taste. I live in a climate where it's rarely under 40°F anymore.

Nickdfresh
02-10-2006, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by scamper
Sounds like you when you talk shit about Christians

Have a specific example? Or are you just talking shit?

franksters
02-10-2006, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by Angel
Nowhere in the Qu'ran is this mentioned, it's an old tribal practice, and in fact Mohammed preached AGAINST this very act.

Perhaps you need to study more theology before making statements such as these, like many, your ignorance of the facts start to show.

Are you sayin it is not being done as we speak?

it is extreme but it's also perform in canada as well...

franksters
02-10-2006, 08:06 PM
About 85 to 110 million women are alive now with no clit...

http://www.stopexcision.net/excision.html

blonddgirl777
02-10-2006, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by franksters
About 85 to 110 million women are alive now with no clit...

http://www.stopexcision.net/excision.html

Now THAT IS Fucked Up just right!!!! :mad:

These men are really missing out...
So... :eatit: = :o :rolleyes: :( :mad:

I really have to avoid this specific subject...

Nitro Express
02-11-2006, 01:11 AM
Washington State and Oregon used to be part of the old British Northwest Territories before they became part of the United States. Since I was talking about the Louisianna Purchase I was using geographical terminology from the period when the United States ended at the continental divide and everything west of that was Mexico or the British Northwest Territories.

FORD
02-11-2006, 01:15 AM
Originally posted by franksters
Are you sayin it is not being done as we speak?

it is extreme but it's also perform in canada as well...

I guess that would explain Celine Dion..... :(

Nitro Express
02-11-2006, 01:23 AM
I say you all bake a big cake and take it to Syria telling them we are sorry. Don't bring a knife to cut the cake with because they have plenty of really sharp ones. They cut a persons head off quite well. Oh you hear a few screams but damn that knife goes right through!

Yeah, heck, lets say we are sorry, bring the troops home, carry on as we did before because if we say we are sorry, they will leave us alone.

Oh they aren't happy about Israel. Fuck Israel, lets stop supporting them and just let the Muslim states take it back. The Jews here that throw a fit and start rioting, lets lock them up or kill them. It's the fucking Jews that got us into the mess in the first place. Too bad Hitler didn't get all of them! Right?

Yeah, lets be friends with the Muslims. Hell, why not join their cause! Ha! Ha! Ha!

FORD
02-11-2006, 01:33 AM
Originally posted by Nitro Express
Washington State and Oregon used to be part of the old British Northwest Territories before they became part of the United States. Since I was talking about the Louisianna Purchase I was using geographical terminology from the period when the United States ended at the continental divide and everything west of that was Mexico or the British Northwest Territories.

I don't think "Northwest Territories" was ever an official name for this region. Oregon Territory was the name for the entire region, which made up the current states of Washington, Oregon, and Idaho, as well as the Canadian province of British Columbia and a piece of Montana, as seen in this map from 1846....

http://www.washington.historylink.org/db_images/OregonTerritoryMap1846.jpg

Nickdfresh
02-11-2006, 01:54 AM
Originally posted by franksters
About 85 to 110 million women are alive now with no clit...

http://www.stopexcision.net/excision.html

Actually, that's Arabic culture, not Islam...

ashstralia
02-11-2006, 05:35 AM
Originally posted by FORD
Where is your evidence that Muslims want to kill me??

move to a muslim country.
they'll hand you a loaded ak
and say, 'welcome to the resistance, our well-fed american brother'

FORD
02-11-2006, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by ashstralia
move to a muslim country.
they'll hand you a loaded ak
and say, 'welcome to the resistance, our well-fed american brother'

But if they hated me, wouldn't that be a stupid thing to do?

Nitro Express
02-11-2006, 02:26 PM
Ho damn! wouldn't Oregon love to have that chunk of land now. Hey Ford, when you annex it for your liberal paradise will you rename it Oregon or Ford's Northwest Territories?

FORD
02-11-2006, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by Nitro Express
Ho damn! wouldn't Oregon love to have that chunk of land now. Hey Ford, when you annex it for your liberal paradise will you rename it Oregon or Ford's Northwest Territories?

Neither. It will be known as The Republic of Cascadia (http://zapatopi.net/cascadia/)

franksters
02-11-2006, 04:39 PM
50 Things al Qaeda Hates about America



Freedom of speech
Unhindered scientific inquiry
Recent advances in airline security
Your lewd women
Illegal detentions of Muslims by John Ashcroft's Justice Department
Worshipping false idols not punishable by death
Most citizens uninformed about Allah's mercy and justice
The 82nd Airborne Division
McRibs actually contain small amount of real pork
Cities full of clean-shaven pretty boys
The seduction of youth by Demi Moore
Louis Farrakhan's geeky little bowties make us look bad
Trampy "Sex in the City" girls won't stick around for a seventh season
On pilot school admission essay question, spelling counts
Can no one make Al Franken shut up?
Snooty Holiday Inn clerks can always tell when you ordered porn
The Arabic dub of "Jakob the Liar" just didn't do it justice
No international shipping for "Coed Naked Volleyball" t-shirts
That "camel jockey" thing turns out to be an insult
A lap dance is still 20 bucks, even when the song is short
Unable to find decent falafel anywhere in Oklahoma
"The Matrix Reloaded" just leaves you hanging
Lambskin condoms not actually for lambs
All those Wilfred Brimley ads on Fox News Channel
Infidels who say "irregardless" when it's just "regardless," damnit
There will be no forgiveness for the "Bobby dreamed it all" season of Dallas
Reliable and affordable breast reduction surgery
Still can't get the original Star Wars on DVD
Miami chicks don't dig unibrows
American convenience stores don't carry anything for burqa rash
Your Brad Pitt makes us feel all funny inside
You ever seen how many dials and doodads there are in a 737 cockpit?
So-called "Sea Monkeys" really just brine shrimp
Widely-held belief that Siegfried & Roy are gay
Having to constantly explain to people that "Sha Na Na" isn't an Arab band
Sneers for not always following the U-after-Q rule
Loud rock'n'roll music intrudes on peaceful ululating
Racism towards Arabs becomes obvious when caught giggling at the Holocaust Museum
We thought a "B-52 strike" meant no more awful singing from Fred Schneider
Not one Arab on "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy"
Suspicious looks when loading a van full of manure and diesel oil
American harlots never buy that "big beard" myth
You people been real touchy the last couple years
Have you seen the price of gas in New York?
Brother Achmed found Florida ballot most confusing
Couldn't get "The Producers" tickets in time to see Broderick & Lane
That Ten Commandments judge in Alabama is some kind of religious nut
Smartass web pundits with their useless lists
Denise Richards hasn't returned any of our calls
You bastards fight back

ashstralia
02-13-2006, 04:39 AM
Originally posted by FORD
But if they hated me, wouldn't that be a stupid thing to do?

my bad. i forgot the sarcasm emoticon.

my point was that your head would be off faster than you could say
ala snackbar.

Angel
02-13-2006, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by franksters
Are you sayin it is not being done as we speak?

it is extreme but it's also perform in canada as well...

Yes, it is being done, but it is not an ISLAMIC law, it is based on various tribal laws.

It has FUCK ALL to do with Islam.

Mr Grimsdale
02-13-2006, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by FORD
"Choke on a Big Mac, you Hindu bastards"

...sounds like the sort of thread we should start in the dump

franksters
02-13-2006, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by Angel
Yes, it is being done, but it is not an ISLAMIC law, it is based on various tribal laws.

It has FUCK ALL to do with Islam.

Angel give me a fuckin break... Which tribe practice this???

According to you what is the pourcentage of muslim versus non-muslim who practice this thing...

Please answer, educate me.

franksters
08-10-2006, 08:36 PM
I never got an answer!!!

THe subject is still Hot!!!!

In two yrs i'll bring back again, and i'm sure it will still be a trendy debate!

Seshmeister
08-10-2006, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by Angel
Nowhere in the Qu'ran is this mentioned, it's an old tribal practice, and in fact Mohammed preached AGAINST this very act.


Of course. When he was fucking his 10 year old 'wife' he always made sure she came first...

distortion9
08-10-2006, 10:22 PM
Peaceful Muslims....always hearing about these "peaceful Muslims". Where are they, better yet, where's all the outrage against the non-peaceful Muslims that are perverting Islam?

Instead ya get this...

“The American Muslim community supports efforts to ensure the safety and security of the traveling public,” said CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad. “We once again urge law enforcement authorities and elected officials to caution against stereotyping entire religious or ethnic groups based on the alleged actions of individuals.”

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?! Did he just say that? LMAO....fuckin good one sir.

Calm the F down Nihad....you don't want to upset your non-peaceful brothers. :rolleyes: Way to take a stand.:rolleyes: Thank's for the overwhelming support.:rolleyes:

Seshmeister
08-10-2006, 10:26 PM
1.3 billion Muslims v a thousand nuts.

Get in in proportion.

Soul Reaper
08-11-2006, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by franksters
I am so tired of the muslims ... everywhere they are there is trouble..

no it's not the Islam religion.....it's fundamentalism....that's the problem...there are plenty of good Muslims in the world....

Islam has the most religious members in the world....if they were all trouble then we'd probably be dead by now....only a couple of them are nutters....

anyway, if you think Islam is the only religion with nutters, you must be pretty stupid because you get it in every religion.....

fundamentalism exists in Islam, Christianity, Sikhism, Hinduism etc.

Soul Reaper
08-11-2006, 09:54 AM
here is an explanation of jihad from an Islam website....

http://www.understanding-islam.com/related/text.asp?type=rarticle&raid=160&sscatid=303

"The Quran began to urge us Muslims to fight for our Justice against those who oppress us. This would involve fighting and bloodshed. The root word of Jihad (JHD) implies more than Holy War. It signifies a physical, moral spiritual and intellectual effort. There are plenty of words in Arabic denoting armed struggle, such as (harb) which means war, (sira'a) which means combat, (ma'araka). which the Qur'an could have used if war was the intended meaning of this struggle. Instead Jihad a richer word which has a range of connotations. The Jihad is not even one of the five pillars of Islam. Jihad is a moral, spiritual struggle to achieve excellence.

Jihad is not also valid without a state. Here are some Scholars on the subject:

"And the third category of collective duties is one in which [the authority of] the State is a [necessary] condition; for example, jihaad and the implementation of the law of punishments in Islam. (fiqhussunnah, assayyidussaabiq; vol.3, page 30)

Writes Ghamidi about the reason for this opinion of Muslim scholars:

The reason for this [condition] is that without political sovereignty jihaad becomes fasaad [disorder, chaos, anarchy, etc]. How is it possible that a group which does not even have the right to award punishment to a criminal should be given the right to wage war? (meezaan, qaanuune da`wat; Urdu; page 35)

An explanation of this reason can be found in Islaahi's da`wate diin or us kaa tariiqe kaar (Urdu; Chapter 14, pages 241 and 242):

The first reason [for this condition] is that God Almighty does not like the dissolution and disintegration of even an evil system until a strong probability exists that those who are out to disintegrate the system will provide people with an alternative and a righteous system. Anarchy and disorder are unnatural conditions. In fact, they are so contrary to human nature that even an unjust system is preferable to them....this confidence [that a group will be able to harmonise a disintegrated system and integrate it into a united whole] can be reposed in such a group only as has actually formed a political government and has such control and discipline within the confines of its authority that the group can be termed as aljamaa`ah [the State, or the government]. Until a group attains this position, it may strive [by religiously allowable means] to become aljamaa`ah -- and that endeavour would be its jihaad for that time -- but it does not have the right to wage an `armed' jihaad.

The second reason is that the import of the power which a group engaged in war gets over the life and property of human beings is so great that sanction to wield this power cannot be given to a group the control of whose leader over his followers is based merely on his spiritual and religious influence on them [rather than being based on legal authority]. When the control of a leader is based merely on his spiritual and religious influence, there is not sufficient guarantee that the leader will be able to stop his followers from fassad fil'ard [creating a situation of disorder, chaos, anarchy on the earth]. Therefore, a religious leader does not have the right to allow his followers to take out their swords [that is to wage an armed struggle] merely on the basis of his spiritual influence over them, for once the sword is unsheathed there is great danger that it will not care for right and wrong and that those who drew it will end up doing all [the wrong which] they had sought to end. Such radical groups as desire revolution and the object of whom is nothing more than disruption of the existing system and deposition of the ruling party to seize power for themselves play such games -- and they can, for in their eyes disruption of a system is no calamity, nor is cruelty of any kind an evil. Everything is right to them [ as long as it serves their purpose]. However, the leaders of a just and righteous party must see whether they are in a position to provide people with a system better than the one they seek to change and whether they will be able to stop their followers from doing such wrong as they themselves had sought to root out. If they are not in that position, then they do not have the right to play games with the life and property of people on the basis of their confidence in mere chances and to create greater disorder than the one they had sought to end."

franksters
08-11-2006, 10:13 AM
All I say Is to ''LIVE AND LET LIVE''

I don't Go in their ''CUNT-RY'' and try to change their ways, all I say is that if they want to live like true musulman, they shoudn't move here in the first place...

THEY HAVE MANY CUNT_RIES to choose from... go there and stay there...

Like you say it's only a couple nutters, but meanwhile this ''couple''
are starting to take too much space on this planet.

now they are starting to affect MY freedom because of their stupidity, and don't kid yourself : the ''GOOD muslim'' celebrate in silence...

Soul Reaper
08-11-2006, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by franksters
All I say Is to ''LIVE AND LET LIVE''

I don't Go in their ''CUNT-RY'' and try to change their ways, all I say is that if they want to live like true musulman, they shoudn't move here in the first place...

THEY HAVE MANY CUNT_RIES to choose from... go there and stay there...

Like you say it's only a couple nutters, but meanwhile this ''couple''
are starting to take too much space on this planet.

now they are starting to affect MY freedom because of their stupidity, and don't kid yourself : the ''GOOD muslim'' celebrate in silence...

they get into the UK because we don't have any immigrant laws....

if you want to stop muslims coming into the country then stronger immigrant laws need to be enforced....

franksters
08-11-2006, 10:24 AM
OK they can come in, but if they do they need to adapt...

Just like if me and my wife travel to the middle east we will adapt..or else she might get killed actually both of us!

don't forget ''the ''good muslim'' celebrate in silence..

Angel
08-14-2006, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by franksters
Are you sayin it is not being done as we speak?

it is extreme but it's also perform in canada as well...

It's done alright, but it has nothing to do with Islam.

Angel
08-14-2006, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
So...
The Muslims are O.K. but what goes on here... outside your country is annoying?

How does OUR bilinguism (our culture) annoys YOU?
(Besides my spelling mistakes)...

Bilingualism... REALLY? Show me a fucking English sign in Quebec, and I'll call the "language police" myself. If this is a truly bilingual nation, then fucking put signs up that this 9th generation Canadian can fucking read!

blonddgirl777
08-14-2006, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by Angel
Bilingualism... REALLY? Show me a fucking English sign in Quebec, and I'll call the "language police" myself. If this is a truly bilingual nation, then fucking put signs up that this 9th generation Canadian can fucking read!

Really Angel,

Stay where you are... THERE you don't need to speak anythingelse than English, you don't have to deal with small terrorists threats on an EVERYDAY basis and you can breath you fresh unpolluted air... all that, without a fear... like I said in the other thread... FOR NOW.

blonddgirl777
08-14-2006, 03:36 PM
Worring about English signs in Québec...
How 1960's! :rolleyes:

There are new (much more important) problems to solve here now... wake up!

Satan
08-14-2006, 04:03 PM
If a citizen of Hell may interject in this inter-Canadian debate.....

It seems reasonable that, if the English speaking provinces of Canada have accomodated their French speaking citizens with bilingual signs, then Quebec should do the same for the benefit of their English speaking fellow Canadians.

Is the bilingual policy voluntary in Canada, or are the two official languages mandated by law? If that's the case, I don't know how Quebec could get away with NOT having anything written in English.

franksters
08-14-2006, 04:30 PM
Satan,

The law in quebec is extremely clear on that subject...

Any business or sign as to be written in French and English, the english sign as to be at least 50 % of the french one in size...

The only way to not follow this law is if your business is a trademark ( like starbuck for exemple) than you don't need to translate it.

Altough we in quebec have a law to re-enforce the fact that you need to display french and english translation, there is no such thing in the rest of canada... the language police is only here in quebec...

one of the reason quebec made a law like this is simply because everything was in english... the problem was that most people here are french.

the law also goes beyond signage, it reaches into the workplace, for example your boss as to be able to provide you with french software, french benefit package, french training manual and so fourth...if you want it in french.

hospitals, schools, govn. building, everything is in french first, and you can get all those in english as well, but not in the rest of canada...

hope that helps.

blonddgirl777
08-14-2006, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by franksters
... the problem was that most people here are french....

And THAT is only a problem for the ignorant unilinguists like the Anglo-Canadians out west...

Nitro Express
08-15-2006, 04:23 AM
You will all be speaking arabic and praying to Allah soon enough!

blonddgirl777
08-15-2006, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by Soul Reaper
... if you want to stop muslims coming into the country then stronger immigrant laws need to be enforced....

You got THAT right!

People are JUST starting to wake-up here... now that it's too late and that we are already surrounded by this "minority"...

Ellyllions
08-15-2006, 08:35 AM
David Koresh
Jim Jones
Jimmy Swaggart
Pat Robertson
any Catholic priest who likes altar boys

Just a few people who have done bad things in the name of "Christianity".

Why is it that we want so badly to be able to rapidly determine who is bad and who is good? Why do we want it so readily apparent that we're willing to pass guilt by association even though we spent our teenage years fighting against that very thing?

blonddgirl777
08-15-2006, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by Ellyllions
David Koresh
Jim Jones
Jimmy Swaggart
Pat Robertson
any Catholic priest who likes altar boys...

Those are flaws of society that happen to be in every country, they are being put away as we catch them...

But the Muslims are massively invading eastern Canadian cities and so far, eaven if only some of them dare acting upon their beleifs, none of them has proven to think differently on that matter...

They DO, admitt to hating us and come here only to grab on our generosity and our "free" (very well garnished) social services etc... Statistics say that the majority of them eather; work but manage to not pay their taxes or simply are on never-ending wellfare...

We happened to wellcome many immigrants from ALL parts of the world since the early 60's and everyone was getting along just fine but now, there has NEVER been so much tension in Québec and Ontario but since that massive immigration of Muslims; schools and public places are becoming untolerable!

It's a plague!

Ellyllions
08-15-2006, 10:09 AM
You're absolutely right.

My point was that all religions have those flaws.

True Islam is a peaceful religion.

blonddgirl777
08-15-2006, 10:27 AM
I don't like fanatics... any of them, no matter WHAT religion.

I think it's "too convenient" to blame God for every behavior... just walk away from your fundamental responsabilities and wash your hands by blaming it all on God!

Cowards!

Seshmeister
08-15-2006, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by Ellyllions
You're absolutely right.

My point was that all religions have those flaws.

True Islam is a peaceful religion.

But if you don't get involved in religious superstition then warped Islamic fanatics are worse than warped Christian fanatics though.

The Christians just ring your doorbell and try and sell you Watch Tower or talk shit on TV programs you would never watch. They sometimes get some stupid law passed but you can just ignore it and it's annoying but not that big a deal. Even Christian terrorists like in Nothern Ireland never did suicide bombs so you had a better chance of catching or preventing them, especially on planes.

Angel
08-15-2006, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by FordIt seems reasonable that, if the English speaking provinces of Canada have accomodated their French speaking citizens with bilingual signs, then Quebec should do the same for the benefit of their English speaking fellow Canadians.

Is the bilingual policy voluntary in Canada, or are the two official languages mandated by law? If that's the case, I don't know how Quebec could get away with NOT having anything written in English.

The problem is that this country fucked up from day one. Bilingualism SHOULD have been made mandatory.

You have idiots out here in the West who don't know that there are anglo's in Quebec, and you have those in Quebec who don't realize how many Francophone communities there are in the west. I can take you to numerous towns in the Western Provinces where it is very difficult to find Anglos.

Shit, some of my cousins here in Saskatchewan don't speak a fucking word of English.

I was making a point about how stupid it is to paint all with a single brush, Franksters & blondgirl have just helped me to make my point.

You wouldn't believe the fights I get into with the Anglo's out here.

I'm 9th generation Canadian... the Brits weren't even here when my ancestors arrived in this great land.

I personally believe that ALL signs in the entire country should be bilingual, and that it should be mandatory that both French and English be taught in ALL SCHOOLS.

Seshmeister
08-15-2006, 02:25 PM
You should ditch French and all speak English. Whats the point of carrying on with a dying language.

English is the language of the future, eventually everyone will speak it.

Star Trek proves that.

Angel
08-15-2006, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
We happened to wellcome many immigrants from ALL parts of the world since the early 60's and everyone was getting along just fine but now, there has NEVER been so much tension in Québec and Ontario but since that massive immigration of Muslims; schools and public places are becoming untolerable!

Really? You obviously aren't aware of the tension and problems caused by the Vietnamese refugees out west.

We must have different Muslims out here. The ones I know all work hard for their money. Granted, welfare is provincial, and in Alberta it is practically impossible for ANYONE to collect a welfare cheque. If there is a problem with anyone collecting welfare on a permanent basis, it is the laws of the province that allows it.

Schools intolerable? When my son was in ELEMENTARY school, he was held up at GUNPOINT for his lunch by, guess what... a Vietnamese.

I have a very dear friend who is from Afghanistan and she is eternally grateful for our soldiers. Her relatives who are still in Afghanistan are much safer with us there.

She sheds a tear and and says a prayer for each and every Canadian soldier that is killed helping her people. Does she hate us? Hell no! Does she hate the terrorists and what they are doing to her religion? Oh yeah. She told me just yesterday that she would like to PERSONALLY chop their fucking heads off, because they are NOT representative of her religion.

I hate to say it, but we need another Timothy McVie to remind everyone that not only those who CLAIM to be muslims can be terrorists. Remember Oklahoma City? That was done in the name of Christianity.

blonddgirl777
08-15-2006, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by Angel
... We must have different Muslims out here....

You definitely do...

blonddgirl777
08-15-2006, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by Angel
... welfare is provincial, and in Alberta it is practically impossible for ANYONE to collect a welfare cheque. If there is a problem with anyone collecting welfare on a permanent basis, it is the laws of the province that allows it...

There you go!

As you could read above (or the the other "Plane blow up..." thread), I was talking mainly about MTL and T.O...
the biggest Muslim aglomerations outside the Mid East.

franksters
08-15-2006, 05:18 PM
So Angel How come THese good muslim are not crushing the 2 or 3 bad ones according to you?

Where there are no march of the good muslim against Jihad, al qaida, hezbollah,ect...

Why they don't show themselves, (the good ones)... We don't here them and we don't see them protesting against these (2 or 3 isolated terrorist)...

tell me why there is always problems with these arab cunt-ry? when it's not afganistan, it's irak, now lebanon, soon iran and syria, egypt will follow... please explain..

and it's not only happening in the middle east, have you been to France lately, how about kosovo, or sudan???

aren't you sick of it?

Ellyllions
08-15-2006, 07:04 PM
Are we seeing a prejudice get stronger?

I've been wondering when this would happen. It's happened over and over throughout history between races and religions following wars. I was having one of those talks with my dad a year or two ago. I asked him how long it would be before the prejudice would start showing...

Where we're from you watch the National News and then wonder how long it will take to get to your home town. Gas price fluctuations, inflation, etc...and some civil movement is no different.

Seshmeister
08-15-2006, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by Ellyllions
Are we seeing a prejudice get stronger?

I've been wondering when this would happen. It's happened over and over throughout history between races and religions following wars. I was having one of those talks with my dad a year or two ago. I asked him how long it would be before the prejudice would start showing...


You need to get it into context though.

In 2002 in Gujarat in India a train of Hindu's was set fire to allegedly by Muslims killing about 58 people. Hindu mobs killed nearly 3000 Muslims in retaliation and repeatedly raped hundreds of muslim women and girls often in front of their families.

In 2005 the same amount of people were killed by Muslim suicide bombers on London Underground trains and a few mosques got a bit of graffiti.

Cheers!

:gulp:

Seshmeister
08-15-2006, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by Angel
Hell no! Does she hate the terrorists and what they are doing to her religion? Oh yeah. She told me just yesterday that she would like to PERSONALLY chop their fucking heads off, because they are NOT representative of her religion.



You don't see the irony in that statement?:)

The_KiD
08-15-2006, 07:34 PM
All Muslims are not Terrorists..

However, most Terrorists are Muslims...

KiD

Satan
08-15-2006, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by The_KiD
All Muslims are not Terrorists..

However, most Terrorists are Muslims...

KiD

Absolute Dragonshit.

The two current leaders of state sponsored terrorism on this planet are the Likud Party of Israel, who claim to be Jewish, and the PNAC Neocon Shitbag Traitors currently occupying the United States of America, who claim to be Jewish (PNAC) and Christian (Chimp & Cheney)

franksters
08-15-2006, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by Satan
Absolute Dragonshit.

The two current leaders of state sponsored terrorism on this planet are the Likud Party of Israel, who claim to be Jewish, and the PNAC Neocon Shitbag Traitors currently occupying the United States of America, who claim to be Jewish (PNAC) and Christian (Chimp & Cheney)

Yes, I guess they are terrorist too, but you know what they will let you do what you want with your life, even if you choose a self destructing path(booze, drugs, clubs, sex, gambling ect...)

they will even help you achieve it, they will provide you whatever you need for that, I'm sorry but the choice is obvious... for me anyway.

Satan maybe you should move in a country like iran where freedom of speach can get you killed, or algeria where your wife coudn't not walk in the streets alone (without a man, family or husband).

or maybe you are more exotic how about having a nice tea on a terrace filled with men and beard in pakistan?

all these people need is some beer, rock and roll music, strippers and a national sport!

they have nothing to do, so they blow themselves up! I would do the same if I didn't have access to sex,drugs, and rock and roll for more than 15 years!!! of course you want the virgins!!!

jcook11
08-15-2006, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by FORD
"beware of the hypocrites...."

Kinda funny coming from someone in QUEBEC

Because in Quebec, you're likely to be in one of two categories:

1) Either you are a native English speaker in a French province.

or

2) You're a native French speaker in a country that's predominately English speaking.

Either way, you would be a minority, and one would think, have some empathy for how a Judeo-Christian power structure has marginalized the Muslims.

You want to blame someone for terrorism? How about those who created the terrorists?

The CIA and Mossad are not comprised of Muslims.

Hamas, the PLO, Hezbolla, AL Quaida the Al Martyrs' brigade etc. are full of them

jcook11
08-15-2006, 10:35 PM
Originally posted by Satan
Absolute Dragonshit.

The two current leaders of state sponsored terrorism on this planet are the Likud Party of Israel, who claim to be Jewish, and the PNAC Neocon Shitbag Traitors currently occupying the United States of America, who claim to be Jewish (PNAC) and Christian (Chimp & Cheney)

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

Satan
08-15-2006, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by franksters
Yes, I guess they are terrorist too, but you know what they will let you do what you want with your life, even if you choose a self destructing path(booze, drugs, clubs, sex, gambling ect...)

they will even help you achieve it, they will provide you whatever you need for that, I'm sorry but the choice is obvious... for me anyway.

Satan maybe you should move in a country like iran where freedom of speach can get you killed, or algeria where your wife coudn't not walk in the streets alone (without a man, family or husband).

or maybe you are more exotic how about having a nice tea on a terrace filled with men and beard in pakistan?

all these people need is some beer, rock and roll music, strippers and a national sport!

they have nothing to do, so they blow themselves up! I would do the same if I didn't have access to sex,drugs, and rock and roll for more than 15 years!!! of course you want the virgins!!!

Then isn't the correct course of action exposing them to Western culture, rather than bombing the shit out of them.

My demons do their part. I have a legion of them working full time in the Middle East working to "infidelize" these people. We're making great progress in Iran, but it's all going to be shot to Heaven if Israel and/or the BCE start a war with Iran. They will go even further into their own time warp when that happens.

jcook11
08-15-2006, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by Satan
Then isn't the correct course of action exposing them to Western culture, rather than bombing the shit out of them.

My demons do their part. I have a legion of them working full time in the Middle East working to "infidelize" these people. We're making great progress in Iran, but it's all going to be shot to Heaven if Israel and/or the BCE start a war with Iran. They will go even further into their own time warp when that happens.

Way to go there prince of darkness more BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.....You try and make it seem that before Bush and the Likkud party took over the world was a fucking Shangrila.....The current state of events didn't happen overnite THESE EVIL MUSLIM AND ARABS HAVE BEEN FUNDING AND PLANNING AND PREPPING FOR THIS SHIT FOR A LONG TIME!

blonddgirl777
08-16-2006, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by FORD
"beware of the hypocrites...."

Kinda funny coming from someone in QUEBEC

Because in Quebec, you're likely to be in one of two categories:

1) Either you are a native English speaker in a French province.

or

2) You're a native French speaker in a country that's predominately English speaking.

Either way, you would be a minority, and one would think, have some empathy for how a Judeo-Christian power structure has marginalized the Muslims.

You want to blame someone for terrorism? How about those who created the terrorists?

The CIA and Mossad are not comprised of Muslims.


FORD, you are talking out of your ass...

I am not complaining about terrorists more than anybodyelse here... I am talking everyday life in Quebec.

I dare you to move here from your NYC location for a while so you can experience the exact same shit as we are...

Listen to our LOCAL news, walk our streets, send your children to our schools, try to find a "safe" neighborhood in the city you grew up in etc... No terrorist attempts on an everyday basis, just complaining Muslims that want MORE and MORE of what we've worked for... remember, WE are a socialist province here, not YOU (Capitalist American) .

You, in your NYC location are well baricaded from these EVERYDAY JOES (not saying; terrorists) who are invading us slowly just to TAKE what they don't diserve...


NO ONE on this board sees his/her city (and surroundings) invaded in such a way... it is obvious to read.

And if you are, a socialist country (or part of a country) that looses billions on their behalf, their needs and every demands... then SPEAK UP! Eaven if you are the kind who likes to bend over and get fucked up the ass everyday...

Everybodyelse... We are certainly not on the same "level" here...

blonddgirl777
08-16-2006, 09:53 AM
The latest on our LOCAL news:

The city of Laval (a bridge away from MTL) has cut off completely the pre-natal classes for its residents. The reason? (Of course)... lack of $$$ in the gvnmt funds. Those classes where requiring; 1 room and 1 teacher/nurse per 40-50 people. Now, they have to pay from their own pockets for private classes.

At the very same time,

The city of Laval has to pay for PRIVATE swimming classes for ONE Muslim girl that won't take te same class a severybody in her school... Because she can't have any boys (or other girls) seing her in a swimsuit, she will be entitled to PRIVATE LESSONS that will require; 1 entire pool (that they will have to baricade just for her) and 1 qualified teacher (that will have to work after hours and get paid over time). All that for ONE Muslim. And will her parents have to pay for those private lessons... Of course not!

Well... look at that! How "some people" are lucky here.... and guess who they are and since when? They are the new arrivals of Muslim immigrants (NO ONE ELSE)!

So,

We don't have that kind of $$$ here, our 50% income taxes and 15% sales taxes are not enough yet to support everybody's fundamental needs... Why do we have to tolerate those takers and THEIR every particular demands? Because Quebecers like to wellcome the ones that beg and give them the shirts off their backs...

Now,

Anybodyelse here, has an economically appaling situation like that to shear with us?
(I don't think so)...

blonddgirl777
08-16-2006, 10:53 AM
And Ho!
Ford, Angel, Seishmeister and everyonelse whol likes to bring up the French/English situation in Québec...

F.Y.I.;

Beleive it or not, both Frogs and Squares, from this province and the one of Ontario tend agree on those topics
(ex. written above)...
We are in the same both as far as that problem goes.
So please, in a "Muslim" thread... don't mix apples and oranges!

ULTRAMAN VH
08-16-2006, 11:05 AM
Ahh!!! I see the welfare system is abused in Canada also. Classic Liberalism. Give everything away at the expense of the middle class. Unfortunatley our current Neo Con run Administration is no better than the Libs.

blonddgirl777
08-16-2006, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by ULTRAMAN VH
Ahh!!! I see the welfare system is abused in Canada also....

Mostly in this province, for 3 major reasons;

We give the fattest cheques, we don't control weather or not someone could phisically and mentally go to work (protection of rights and liberty) and we accept the largest amount of uneducated poor immigrants (such as Muslims).

Studies* prove that the majority of Muslims get wellfare right of the boat (they forge names and adresses to get more than 1 cheque) and the few ones that work, manage to not pay their taxes (one way is to hide and send money to their country).

And, how convenient; if you refuse to learn ENGLISH or French (for years)... how will you get hired anywhere?

From oversea, they get to know about all the flaws in our system...

*And if you'd live here, you wouldn't need studies to see with your own 2 eyes what we see everyday... wandering the streets!

ELVIS
08-16-2006, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by Satan
The two current leaders of state sponsored terrorism on this planet are the Likud Party of Israel, who claim to be Jewish, and the PNAC Neocon Shitbag Traitors currently occupying the United States of America, who claim to be Jewish (PNAC) and Christian (Chimp & Cheney)


You're a fucking idiot...:rolleyes:

blonddgirl777
08-16-2006, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by ULTRAMAN VH
...Unfortunatley our current Neo Con run Administration is no better than the Libs.

Beleive it or not, there is WORST than the libs...
It's a provincial party called; "Parti Québécois"!

jero
08-16-2006, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by secrets

Islam and muslims are not the problem. Islam and indeed most world religions are positive since they preach peace and love of fellow man.


yeah right! islam is the problem!!
Everywhere! I'm sick of those assholes

jero
08-16-2006, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
Mostly in this province, for 3 major reasons;

We give the fattest cheques, we don't control weather or not someone could phisically and mentally go to work (protection of rights and liberty) and we accept the largest amount of uneducated poor immigrants (such as Muslims).

Studies* prove that the majority of Muslims get wellfare right of the boat (they forge names and adresses to get more than 1 cheque) and the few ones that work, manage to not pay their taxes (one way is to hide and send money to their country).

And, how convenient; if you refuse to learn ENGLISH or French (for years)... how will you get hired anywhere?

From oversea, they get to know about all the flaws in our system...

*And if you'd live here, you wouldn't need studies to see with your own 2 eyes what we see everyday... wandering the streets!

So true! Just as in Europe. We've got problems with those morons everyday. A civil war will soon start

Angel
08-16-2006, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by Seshmeister
You don't see the irony in that statement?:)

Of course I do, and so does she. She was speaking out in anger.

Angel
08-16-2006, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by franksters
So Angel How come THese good muslim are not crushing the 2 or 3 bad ones according to you?

Where there are no march of the good muslim against Jihad, al qaida, hezbollah,ect...

Why they don't show themselves, (the good ones)... We don't here them and we don't see them protesting against these (2 or 3 isolated terrorist)...

tell me why there is always problems with these arab cunt-ry? when it's not afganistan, it's irak, now lebanon, soon iran and syria, egypt will follow... please explain..

and it's not only happening in the middle east, have you been to France lately, how about kosovo, or sudan???

aren't you sick of it?

I've seen and heard them. Why haven't you? Because your prejudism only allows you to hear what you want to hear.

Yes, the problems are in Arab countries. You would have to study about the Arab customs, as opposed to Islamic. Your confusing tribal ideology with Islamic.

ULTRAMAN VH
08-16-2006, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
Mostly in this province, for 3 major reasons;

We give the fattest cheques, we don't control weather or not someone could phisically and mentally go to work (protection of rights and liberty) and we accept the largest amount of uneducated poor immigrants (such as Muslims).

Studies* prove that the majority of Muslims get wellfare right of the boat (they forge names and adresses to get more than 1 cheque) and the few ones that work, manage to not pay their taxes (one way is to hide and send money to their country).

And, how convenient; if you refuse to learn ENGLISH or French (for years)... how will you get hired anywhere?

From oversea, they get to know about all the flaws in our system...

*And if you'd live here, you wouldn't need studies to see with your own 2 eyes what we see everyday... wandering the streets!

We have the same problems with illegal aliens here in the states. The current Administration preaches national security and our borders are wide open. If a pregnant illegal alien slips over the border and has the baby, that baby becomes a citizen of the U.S. Our government is basically bending over backwards for illegal aliens and the taxpayers are picking up the tab. Meanwhile the Mexican Govt. is doing nothing to improve their economy and take care of their own.

blonddgirl777
08-16-2006, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by Angel
Of course I do, and so does she. She was speaking out in anger.

"SHE" has better not be "ME"...

And if so, who in hell do you think you are to judge on my emotions?
I'm just fed up like all other Québécois (both ENGLISH and French)... :rolleyes:
That's all!

Although, I think (that's my humble opinion) YOU are speaking out of ignorance,
when it comes to OUR very specific situation here!

blonddgirl777
08-16-2006, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by Angel
Of course I do, and so does she. She was speaking out in anger.

Now that I read that sarcastic statement again... I realized that "SHE" cannot be "ME" because I NEVER said
(or wrote) anything to Angel or anyonelse (on that subject) PERSONALLY...

What I have to say, I say out loud, in public, with as many people to hear me as possible...
On radio and T.V. open lines, I state my full name etc...

I am proud of my opinion!

blonddgirl777
08-16-2006, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by ULTRAMAN VH
... If a pregnant illegal alien slips over the border and has the baby, that baby becomes a citizen of the U.S....

In Canada, they don't eaven need to "slip"... we open the gates for them.
We put our jackets on the ground, so they can walk on it all the way to a hospital where WE will pay for the delivery (and everythingelse after)...

blonddgirl777
08-16-2006, 06:00 PM
Did you know:

Canada is the only country (or maybe one of the very few) in the world where someone can arrive WITHOUT ANY papers or I.D. at all, and still be accepted without questions?

Once they are in, they have all their families moved here, and get a free ride... for the resat of their lives!

That's how it works!

blonddgirl777
08-16-2006, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
The latest on our LOCAL news:

The city of Laval (a bridge away from MTL) has cut off completely the pre-natal classes for its residents. The reason? (Of course)... lack of $$$ in the gvnmt funds. Those classes where requiring; 1 room and 1 teacher/nurse per 40-50 people. Now, they have to pay from their own pockets for private classes.

At the very same time,

The city of Laval has to pay for PRIVATE swimming classes for ONE Muslim girl that won't take te same class a severybody in her school... Because she can't have any boys (or other girls) seing her in a swimsuit, she will be entitled to PRIVATE LESSONS that will require; 1 entire pool (that they will have to baricade just for her) and 1 qualified teacher (that will have to work after hours and get paid over time). All that for ONE Muslim. And will her parents have to pay for those private lessons... Of course not!

Well... look at that! How "some people" are lucky here.... and guess who they are and since when? They are the new arrivals of Muslim immigrants (NO ONE ELSE)!

So,

We don't have that kind of $$$ here, our 50% income taxes and 15% sales taxes are not enough yet to support everybody's fundamental needs... Why do we have to tolerate those takers and THEIR every particular demands? Because Quebecers like to wellcome the ones that beg and give them the shirts off their backs...

Now,

Anybodyelse here, has an economically appaling situation like that to shear with us?
(I don't think so)...

Hey Angel,

Too bad I didn't hear you comment on that one...
Are YOU (out west) paying for this kinda shit, as we speak?

blonddgirl777
08-16-2006, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by Angel
... your prejudism only allows you to hear what you want to hear...

Same for you with Quebecers... except that YOU don't eaven live here!
We, on the other hand live right next to Muslims...

dawiseone
08-16-2006, 09:39 PM
You people amuse me. First of all a muslim woman or girl can not swim with other boys , She can swim with other women or girls they just have to segragate their enviroment. Is is so bad that she has higher morals than most westerners? As a muslim and an arab american (by the way who dosen't speak arabic.) I would also like to say that all you hear on the news about muslims, is negative things. Because thats all our bias fucking news broadcast contain. They dont talk about all the out crys of the millions of muslims and muslim clerics condeming the actions of suicide bombers and terrorist like alqueida. I strongly belive in islam but i dont practice it. It is extreemly hard for a muslim to pray five times a day not eat pork dont drink dont have premarital sex when it's the norm of every westerner in the country. I love my country very much I'm half Saudi and half mutt. My american side of the family has been here since the inception of this country. And all I ever hear about muslims is negative because it's all they ever broadcast. If you learned more about what it teaches , and not what is practiced buy fanatics and local media you would understand what the hell is going on. Or should we talk about all the fanatical christinas on the fuckin tv talkin about shit like trinity, and Rapture wich are not even in the bible . The words aren't even found in the bible dictionary. Make a vow of faith ................. and pay on it every month and you are saved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's a crying shame what the christian religion has become. I know ....I was raised a baptist and reverted to Islam in my 21st year of life. You call groups like hezbollah and PLO terrorists.. When they are freedom fighters. Its a crying fucking shame that they have to resort to blowing themselfs up to try and kill as many people as they can, because they dont have the tanks, the machine gns, the long range guide rockets ,and well trained armys to fight with....if you look closley they'er throwing fucking rocks at tanks and helocopters. What else can they do. The news dosent tell you about the thousands and thousands of iraqis and palastenians that are slaughterd buy our government on a daily basis. Women and children not men!. Those bombs and tanks and planes all have made in usa written on them. The entire Israli army consists of M1-A1 abrams ,Bradley fighting tanks, Armored personell carriers, F-14 tombcats and F -1 11s fighter jets our helicopters and even our ammo. They kill Lebaneese Egyptians , Syrrians , every single day and we hear nothing about it on our news or our news papers. Now the demand that Iran and Syrria stop providing arms and aid to Hezbollah, While the American government gives the Isreali's the same damn thing. And noone say's shit about it. And you wonder why the arab's in the middle east hate our government so much. Go fuckin figure . I dont condone or approve of what they do. But god knows it's all they have left to do, It's all they can do. Can't you see they are so desperate that they have resorted to blowing themselfs up because it's the only form of mass destruction they have. God help us all. If you had no weapons ... and saw your brothers and sisters murderd on a daily basis..... How long would it take for to do the same? Maybe not long at all. Maybe some day people will see how decietfull our government really is and do something about it. I guess untill then everything will remain the same. It's just really getting old.

franksters
08-16-2006, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by dawiseone
You people amuse me. First of all a muslim woman or girl can not swim with other boys , She can swim with other women or girls they just have to segragate their enviroment. Is is so bad that she has higher morals than most westerners?
if she lives here she lives like us or build your own school or even better: go to a muslim cunt-ry(plenty to choose from) where everybody as more morals and are better than us.

[/i]As a muslim and an arab american (by the way who dosen't speak arabic.) I would also like to say that all you hear on the news about muslims, is negative things. Because thats all our bias fucking news broadcast contain. They dont talk about all the out crys of the millions of muslims and muslim clerics condeming the actions of suicide bombers and terrorist like alqueida. [/QUOTE]

Take the streets, organise a manifestation like you guys do against the u.s and israel, BURN THE HEZBOLLAH FLAG! you see how fast they will talk about it...

[/i] I love my country very much I'm half Saudi and half mutt.[/QUOTE]
go back then... what r u doing here??? taking advantage of the system, cause there are none in your cunt-ry...

[/i]And all I ever hear about muslims is negative because it's all they ever broadcast..[/QUOTE]

name me a few good thing, let's see if you can...

[/i]Or should we talk about all the fanatical christinas on the fuckin tv talkin about shit like trinity, and Rapture wich are not even in the bible .[/QUOTE]

they're goal is not to convert the whole planet.


[/i]You call groups like hezbollah and PLO terrorists...[/QUOTE]

If you would speak arabic you would know that hezbollah means ,''party of god'' don't you find it a little extreme that a mollah is the head of the political party...

I find it extremely scary...

[/i]Its a crying fucking shame that they have to resort to blowing themselfs up to try and kill as many people as they can, because they dont have the tanks, the machine gns, the long range guide rockets ,and well trained armys to fight with.......[/QUOTE]

because they are ignorant they didn't get it yet: religion slows you down... moneywise... no money, no power... no power no respect...

power with hand made grenade doesn't really have a long range of success. I suggest they should try to become like china who understands the economic challange...

i [/i]But god knows it's all they have left to do, It's all they can do. [/QUOTE]
no they could educate themselves and become united and economically, scientifically, medically strong, but they are still living in the 1500 and that's how they choose to be.

Keep crying a river, you are already drowning in it anyway...

blonddgirl777
08-16-2006, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by dawiseone
... Is is so bad that she has higher morals than most westerners?

Sorry but at that age, I remember a lot of little Western girls not wanting to be in a swimsuit in front of guys...
for various reasons that where just as valid as her religious morals...

But they where told to comlply and adjust to the school system that had no time and money for everyone's
every specific demands and needs.
That's life, and it's called; "living in society"... and it gets harder as we grow up!
All the other immigrants (and we DO have a lot of them) understood that, no matter how prude or puritain their backgrounds where.

If you think we don't have morals, think again.
Muslim men are the ones that will give a Western women the most gisgusting looks!

blonddgirl777
08-16-2006, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by dawiseone
... First of all a muslim woman or girl can not swim with other boys...

To bad I can't find a religious excuse to get everything I want (like private lessons paid by the govmnt)!
But then again, I'm NOT a leach...

franksters
08-16-2006, 10:58 PM
Angel,


Originally posted by Angel
I've seen and heard them. Why haven't you? Because your prejudism only allows you to hear what you want to hear.

Yes, the problems are in Arab countries. You would have to study about the Arab customs, as opposed to Islamic. Your confusing tribal ideology with Islamic.

No I haven't heard them, were they whispering...

I wanna see them burn milicia flag, go down in the streets, just like they do when they spits on the american flag and the israel ones...

why don't they denounce those racist mollah that tells them they need to fight until the blood runs down the street, when they attend the mosque?

And please stop telling me that I have prejudice against them.

You think you so smart, just because you have that 1 friend who's a good muslim, shut the fuck up! Are you the virgin Mary; you like everyone on earth, you agree with everybody,let's love everyone.... WAKE UP ANGEL, go out of redneckmonton for a change...

Where have you been lately besides the grocery and roth army, not everyone likes you, even on your street there are people that don't like you, and what's wrong with that?

I don't like these fuckers, for the simple reason that they are GLOBALLY ruining it for us...

If we would be muslim and married together I would fuckin bitch slap you, and fuck my other wife... because of your stupid comments.

blonddgirl777
08-16-2006, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by franksters
... I wanna see them burn milicia flag, go down in the streets, just like they do when they spits on the american flag and the israel ones...

why don't they denounce those racist mollah that tells them they need to fight until the blood runs down the street, when they attend the mosque?...

You know we will never see that happening!

All we see or hear is them massivly complaining that our govmnt never does enough for them and that we, Westerners should go out on the streets to protest WITH them!
Yes... WITH and FOR them!

What the fuck are they thinking?

They should definitely move out to the Rockies where everyone there is "supposed" to be sooooo tolerant and nice and... blah, blah, blah...

franksters
08-16-2006, 11:08 PM
And btw Angel, you are getting old, when I read your post now, they make you sound just like katydid, so when exactly are you gonna save the world from all this hatred, prejudice and racism...

I think you should consult Dr.phil, or maybe get off of him, live on the edge a little, bit be adventurous, switch to Helen!

blonddgirl777
08-16-2006, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by franksters
... you like everyone on earth, you agree with everybody,let's love everyone....

ANYONE who claims to be able to do that is either a liar or on Prozac!
Or... has no one else to deal with but his/her own reflection in the mirror...

Nitro Express
08-17-2006, 12:30 AM
We've tried to work with the Muslims and be politically correct but if they continue their bullshit the politeness will go out the window quick. A society can only take so much bullshit before it's going to turn on the group causing it. You would think the moderate Muslims would join us hunting down the assholes doing the terrorism but this does not seem to be the case. Especially in the UK where those terrorists were busted and all their Muslim buddies stood up for them saying they were framed.

Before soon, Europe and North America will be just like Bosnia or Israel where dirty fighting will be the norm thanks to Muslim bullshit.

Nitro Express
08-17-2006, 12:44 AM
If the Muslims want tottal war we will give it to them. If they are dumb enough to use nuclear or chemical weapons we will only respond with more. If they want the Muslim population centers and Mecca to not be destroyed they better clean their act up.

Oh we could have a cold war with the Muslims but they are already fighting dirty using terrorism against civilian targets. That is what makes this war on terror dirty business. Sure civilians will get killed in the cross fire but it's the Islamic assholes who fight like cowards who make that happen. Yeah, real honorable hiding behind school kids, religiouse meeting houses, and family dwellings while you fight dirty. Real honorable sneaking onto airplains and blowing them up. I can think of no other enemy the US has fought that is worse. Not even the Germans or the Japanese fought as dirty or cowardly.

Nitro Express
08-17-2006, 12:52 AM
There is no frontline in this war. It's a worldwide war of infitration fueled by hate. A friend of my dad was killed in Indonesia because he was Christian. He was a retired teacher teaching English. One day some Muslims killed him. The same goes on in parts of the Phillipines and Africa. Muslims are commiting genocide in Sudan and Chad.

Islam now has Infiltrated Europe and parts of North America. They bide their time and organize themselves. When the time is right, they make their move.

It's not armies anymore. It's a religiouse parasite that invades the host and eats it within. Look at what Hezbolla has done to Lebbanon. They certainly could do the same in Europe, Canada, or the US. They are financed with big oil money and drug money. They could build a machine shop and make the weapons here if they wanted to. They have the people and the money. Enter a country and look legitimate. Launder the money in fake businesses or barter drugs for weapons. Be patient and bide your time. They are not in a hurry.

Nitro Express
08-17-2006, 12:58 AM
I think the Muslims are feeling us out right now. Sept. 11 and the other attempts were to see how we would react and to see how competant we are. They are watching and taking notes.

The Washington DC snipers were Muslim. They were trained outside the US.

They are seeing what's effective and if it gives them the reaction they want. They buy more time with cease fires and betting on the American short-term memory. They know they can't knock us out today or tommorrow. They think they can down the road by invading us slowly but surely.

Nitro Express
08-17-2006, 01:04 AM
The day will come that thousands of heavily armed Muslims will take over population centers in Europe and North America. The Muslims will have machine guns and RPGS, the local police will be overwealmed. The military and National Guard will have a hard time responding to multiple takovers; especially, when equipment and personell are overseas fighting Muslims overseas.

Air power will be useless because they will be using citizens as cover. They will take anyone as hostages including womean and children. To them you wife and child are pieces of shit because they aren't Muslim.

This is what they are doing. Time to run them out why we can. Time to put the Patriot Act to good use.

blonddgirl777
08-17-2006, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by Nitro Express
... You would think the moderate Muslims would join us hunting down the assholes doing the terrorism but this does not seem to be the case...

No way, they will not fight against their terrorists friends (not now, not ever)... they put them on a pedestal!

Besides those 1 or 2 isolated cases (where do you go with 1 or 2 anyway), they are all massively praying for the same cause.

blonddgirl777
08-17-2006, 08:16 AM
Originally posted by Nitro Express
... Yeah, real honorable hiding behind school kids, religiouse meeting houses, and family dwellings while you fight dirty. Real honorable sneaking onto airplains and blowing them up....

What about those people (they could be men or women) that hide under the burkas?
In our Western civilization, it used to be that you entered a placed (ex.: a bank) fully covered or masked and people would be scared not knowing what gun you're concealing underneath or what are your real intentions...

Now, we see that everywhere and wonder; "Is this person going to blow himself up?" Since when can you hide yourself (and anything else you want) at all times?

Again... how convenient!
They can use their religion to conceal, cover their faces from cameras, the police and the whole population...
Another great "excuse"!

Yes... COWARDS!

blonddgirl777
08-17-2006, 08:26 AM
Originally posted by Nitro Express
... I can think of no other enemy the US has fought that is worse. Not even the Germans or the Japanese fought as dirty or cowardly.

Coencidence!

I cannot think of (nor have I seen) no other immigrants that we have;
Jews
Italians
Haitiens (and everyone from the Antilles)
Portugese
Greeks
Mexicans (and everyone from mid. and south America)
CUBANS
Chinese
Vietnamese
Africans
The few Europeans
And all the ones I am forgetting...

None other than the Muslims have came here to destroy our cities, leach on our system, protest against us, and all together with this never ending mission to ELIMINATE us...

Their fundamentals are too much against ours for us to be able to shear that same space with them!

franksters
08-17-2006, 08:30 AM
Thank you Nitro , Reading your post gives me hope that some of us are awake, they are infiltrating our nation (government, military, schools, police, secret services)

I know that when the time comes to turn their back on us they will be everywhere, and we will get soooo fucked...

blonddgirl777
08-17-2006, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by Nitro Express
...It's a religiouse parasite that invades the host and eats it within.... They are not in a hurry.

That's exactly what is going on here...
First, they invade the ones that pitty them, wellcome them and feed them (very hypocritically), soon they start making their rules (in a country where they can do whatever they want in the name of freedom) and then... the arguments, the protests and then... what we all know!

Is anyone stupid enough to beleive that they come here to be part of our culture (like all the ones listed above who are civilized enough to properly shear the space)?
Hell! THEY don't eaven claim that!

Try to go "there" and abide by your own rules?
Good luck! (or; Good lynch!)

blonddgirl777
08-17-2006, 08:41 AM
Originally posted by Nitro Express
I think the Muslims are feeling us out right now...

Well... they've already figured us out (Canadians)!

blonddgirl777
08-17-2006, 08:42 AM
Originally posted by Nitro Express
... They think they can down the road by invading us slowly but surely.

Our city is already invaded!

blonddgirl777
08-17-2006, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by Nitro Express
... To them you wife and child are pieces of shit because they aren't Muslim....

For these men, a Western woman IS a hore...

Because we speak up, laugh out loud, get educated, support ourselves, and because we don't wear our sheets over our heads at all time!
They hate us, our independence...

Meanwhile, they are the first ones (the only ones), when comes spring and summer to drool in a very despising way staring constantly at us with KNIVES in their eyes... All that, in front of their wives and kids!

I've been "looked at" by all kinds of immigrants all my life (yes men do, stare...) but never in such a hateful way!

Scary, disgusting pigs!

blonddgirl777
08-17-2006, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by franksters
...Reading your post gives me hope that some of us are awake...

But WHAT will be done about that?
Since we still wellcome boats full of them everydays?

The_KiD
08-17-2006, 09:46 AM
We (US & Canada) really need to put a "No Vacancy" sign up at our borders and police the shit out of it. Let these "peaceful people" find safe harbor somewhere else..

KiD

blonddgirl777
08-17-2006, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by The_KiD
We (US & Canada) really need to put a "No Vacancy" sign up at our borders and police the shit out of it. Let these "peaceful people" find safe harbor somewhere else..

KiD

For sure!

But when I walk our streets and I look around... I feel like it's already "too late".
They are the ones with multiple kids that they can't eaven support... the more kids they have,
the bigger the (wellfare) cheque!

Trust me, it's spreadding out pretty fast here...

BigBadBrian
08-17-2006, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
For these men, a Western woman IS a hore...

Because we speak up, laugh out loud, get educated, support ourselves, and because we don't wear our sheets over our heads at all time!
They hate us, our independence...

Meanwhile, they are the first ones (the only ones), when comes spring and summer to drool in a very despising way staring constantly at us with KNIVES in their eyes... All that, in front of their wives and kids!

I've been "looked at" by all kinds of immigrants all my life (yes men do, stare...) but never in such a hateful way!

Scary, disgusting pigs!

BG777, I think you've only begun to scratch the surface with your opinions. I agree with you.

I've been to several Arab countries. I've seen their culture up close and personal. They simply do not like or approve of the Western way of life.

Some here would say that it is BS that traditional muslims hate us for our freedoms. While that notion is not bullshit, Western influence in the region has also played a part.

This thread is interesting.

:cool:

ULTRAMAN VH
08-17-2006, 12:46 PM
Lets not forget the huge prison populations that are being indoctrinated into the Muslim faith. What better way to get your point across than to use uneducated career criminals as muscle to begin your world domination in the name of Islam.

blonddgirl777
08-17-2006, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
... I've been to several Arab countries. I've seen their culture up close and personal. They simply do not like or approve of the Western way of life....

I personally, don't give a rat's ass what they do or beleive in, in their own countries...
As long as they stay there and don't come ove here to prove (in many ways) that they hate us TO DEATH!

Everyone should mind their own business and live & let live...
EVERYONE!

The whole world would be a better place...

franksters
08-17-2006, 04:25 PM
What's the point...

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franksters
08-17-2006, 04:40 PM
Lookin for love!

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Angel
08-17-2006, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
Everyone should mind their own business and live & let live...
EVERYONE!

The whole world would be a better place...

That's exactly my thoughts. It's the way i try to live my life, and by the way, stop thinking I'm down on Quebec. You missed my point entirely. Where the fuck do you think my ancestors come from? NEW FRANCE!!!!

And don't think everytime I speak on this board, I'm talking about you... my previous comment was about my friend saying she would like to chop the terrorists heads off herself.

Angel
08-17-2006, 07:25 PM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
Hey Angel,

Too bad I didn't hear you comment on that one...
Are YOU (out west) paying for this kinda shit, as we speak?

Actually, we have been for years. For the Hindu & Sikh girls that can't be seen in swimsuits.

Angel
08-17-2006, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by franksters
And btw Angel, you are getting old, when I read your post now, they make you sound just like katydid, so when exactly are you gonna save the world from all this hatred, prejudice and racism...

I think you should consult Dr.phil, or maybe get off of him, live on the edge a little, bit be adventurous, switch to Helen!

Please, don't be so fucking stupid. I make no claims to save the world, or anybody else. I just make sure that I go to sleep at night with a clear consceince. Live on the edge a little? Sweetheart, I just left a 24 year abusive marriage, with nothing but the clothes on my back, and moved to an entire new province to start a new life. Believe me, I don't need any more adventure.

Angel
08-17-2006, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
Meanwhile, they are the first ones (the only ones), when comes spring and summer to drool in a very despising way staring constantly at us with KNIVES in their eyes... All that, in front of their wives and kids!

In my experience, Hindu's and Sikh's (East Indians) are the worst when it comes to that!

Seshmeister
08-17-2006, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by Angel
In my experience, Hindu's and Sikh's (East Indians) are the worst when it comes to that!

Really?

My experience is the complete opposite. I've found Hindu's and Sikhs much less indoctrinated and much more likely to be more, well normal.:)

By normal I guess I mean having friends and relationships outwith their religous superstitions.

The dangers of generalisation I guess...

I feel bad for them as well because they get sullied with the Muslim extremist tag too. At least if you are muslim then you have to appreciate that because some people from your superstition are murdering people you may get some flak. Due to ignorance the Hindu's and the Sikhs get the same shit without even that.

Cheers!

:gulp:

Satan
08-17-2006, 09:14 PM
Geezus, this board is turning into fucking Stormfront.

blonddgirl777
08-17-2006, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by Angel
... Where the fuck do you think my ancestors come from? NEW FRANCE!!!!...

Yet, you ARE still down on Québec!
I guess your ancestors mean nothing to you?
(Not that it has too...)


Memory check:

Read your post #:35 in the "Plot to blow up planes' foiled"...
You wrote yourself, that you are SICK of us and that we are the problem in YOUR country!

Are you loosing it?

blonddgirl777
08-17-2006, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by Angel
Actually, we have been for years. For the Hindu & Sikh girls that can't be seen in swimsuits.

BUUUULL SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!:o

blonddgirl777
08-17-2006, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by Seshmeister
...My experience is the complete opposite. I've found Hindu's and Sikhs much less indoctrinated and much more likely to be more, well normal.:)...

There is a huge comunity of Siks in a near subburb (with huge temples) and they also gather up in ghettos
inside the city...
They have "the looks" too but not as despising as Muslims!

At least, the Sikhs build things and have nothing to bitch about, in public... all the time...

blonddgirl777
08-17-2006, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by Satan
Geezus, this board is turning into fucking Stormfront.

Whatelse do you expect from a board talking about "MUSLIMS"?
Nothing will ever be peacefull about them (unless WE just shut up and take iy up the ass)...

jcook11
08-17-2006, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by Satan
Geezus, this board is turning into fucking Stormfront.

It's spelled JESUS...What are you some kind of filthy muslim?

blonddgirl777
08-18-2006, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by Angel
...And don't think everytime I speak on this board, I'm talking about you... my previous comment was about my friend saying she would like to chop the terrorists heads off herself.

So, is your "friend" reading this board?
How did SHE get the sarcasm in those previous posts (that where supposidly directed to her)?

And call yourself a friend of hers? :confused:

Satan
08-18-2006, 01:41 AM
Originally posted by jcook11
It's spelled JESUS...What are you some kind of filthy muslim?

No, Einstein.... I'm the fucking DEVIL!

blonddgirl777
08-18-2006, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by Satan
No, Einstein.... I'm the fucking DEVIL!

HOOOOO.... that's an easy and "below the belt one, but I'll say it anyway;

"SAME SHIT"! :D

L.O.L.O.L.

Angel
08-18-2006, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
Yet, you ARE still down on Québec!
I guess your ancestors mean nothing to you?
(Not that it has too...)


Memory check:

Read your post #:35 in the "Plot to blow up planes' foiled"...
You wrote yourself, that you are SICK of us and that we are the problem in YOUR country!

Are you loosing it?

Read whatever post number it is following that where I said I made that post to prove a point.

Shit girl, your panties are really tied in a knot these days, aren't they?

Angel
08-18-2006, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by Seshmeister
Really?

My experience is the complete opposite. I've found Hindu's and Sikhs much less indoctrinated and much more likely to be more, well normal.:)

By normal I guess I mean having friends and relationships outwith their religous superstitions.

The dangers of generalisation I guess...

I feel bad for them as well because they get sullied with the Muslim extremist tag too. At least if you are muslim then you have to appreciate that because some people from your superstition are murdering people you may get some flak. Due to ignorance the Hindu's and the Sikhs get the same shit without even that.

Cheers!

:gulp:

Actually Sesh, I'm specifically referring to a couple of dirty old men that used to hang around this one mall in Edmonton checking out the young girls... I do agree with everything else you've said, however.

Angel
08-18-2006, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
So, is your "friend" reading this board?
How did SHE get the sarcasm in those previous posts (that where supposidly directed to her)?

And call yourself a friend of hers? :confused:

What the fuck are you talking about? Read the fucking posts, there was no sarcasm, I was relating a conversation... and Sesh asked if I saw the irony in her statement. Like I said Blonde, it's not all about you.

Angel
08-18-2006, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
BUUUULL SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!:o

Oh, so you were living in Victoria when the shit came down regarding the East Indian girls and the gym classes, were you?

Go visit a mosque, you are seriously in need of education. Prejudism is 99% ignorance.

blonddgirl777
08-18-2006, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by Angel
... you are seriously in need of education. Prejudism is 99% ignorance.

Look who's takling! L.O.L.

"Prarie girl"...
Get out of the boonies and smell the city (if you can)!

blonddgirl777
08-18-2006, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by Angel
...Shit girl, your panties are really tied in a knot these days, aren't they?

At least, MY panties don't get all WET, at the sight of MUSLIMS!

FORD
08-18-2006, 01:19 PM
And this thread is 99% racist horseshit. Satan was right. When the fuck did the White Power fucks move in here?

Angel
08-18-2006, 01:24 PM
You know Ford, I was speaking to a fellow up here from California the other day regarding racism. (Yes, he's black)

The racism is here as well he told me. He actually prefers the States because it's in your face. He says up here, they do it behind your back.

I don't care where or how it's done, it just sickens me to no end. I will NEVER judge a person based on their race, and if you ever catch me doing it, like I said, please shoot me... I couldn't handle being that kind of a person.

Angel
08-18-2006, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by ULTRAMAN VH
Lets not forget the huge prison populations that are being indoctrinated into the Muslim faith. What better way to get your point across than to use uneducated career criminals as muscle to begin your world domination in the name of Islam.

How many criminals have gotten early parole because they "found the lord" and were born again? And then turned around and committed heinous crimes all over again.

Angel
08-18-2006, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
At least, MY panties don't get all WET, at the sight of MUSLIMS!

Actually, it's chicks that turn my crank the most.....

I don't give a fuck what their religious affiliations are.

ULTRAMAN VH
08-18-2006, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by Angel
How many criminals have gotten early parole because they "found the lord" and were born again? And then turned around and committed heinous crimes all over again.

I am not defending Christians, nor is this thread about Christians. It is about Muslims. If you want to start a thread about Christians, go right ahead.

ULTRAMAN VH
08-18-2006, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by FORD
And this thread is 99% racist horseshit. Satan was right. When the fuck did the White Power fucks move in here?

Racist?????? Hey Mr. Libby, have you looked at your pay stub lately. I guess you like the fact that a large portion of your hard earned money is being used to support illegal aliens and a broken, abused welfare system. OH!!! but how foolish of me. I forgot that liberals like to give everything away and heaven forbid, promote hard work and paying taxes like legal American middle class citizens do.

LoungeMachine
08-18-2006, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by ULTRAMAN VH
Racist?????? Hey Mr. Libby, have you looked at your pay stub lately. I guess you like the fact that a large portion of your hard earned money is being used to support illegal aliens and a broken, abused welfare system.



Well, dumbass.........

Your administration has been in CONTROL of congress and the White House for 6 years now......

Tell us, Skippy..........WHAT HAVE THEY DONE IN THIS TIME????



:rolleyes:

The_KiD
08-18-2006, 08:50 PM
I hate everyone equally.. The Sympathy for these people amazes me..

KiD

ULTRAMAN VH
08-18-2006, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Well, dumbass.........

Your administration has been in CONTROL of congress and the White House for 6 years now......

Tell us, Skippy..........WHAT HAVE THEY DONE IN THIS TIME????



:rolleyes:
My administration????? Not likely, Lounge Clitoris. There is nothing conservative about the current administration. I am sure your liberal ass is aware that the neo cons have out spent your boy, Mr. Honesty and Integrity himself Bill Clinton.

Seshmeister
08-18-2006, 09:37 PM
Lounge Clitoris?

LOL!

Is that an insult or just because you don't get him or know where he's coming from?:D

Seshmeister
08-18-2006, 09:37 PM
Can I be SeshVulva?

I think that has a certain ring...:)

ULTRAMAN VH
08-18-2006, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by Seshmeister
Can I be SeshVulva?

I think that has a certain ring...:)

I agree, it does have a ring and that is not an insult.

ULTRAMAN VH
08-18-2006, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by Seshmeister
Lounge Clitoris?

LOL!

Is that an insult or just because you don't get him or know where he's coming from?:D

Oh, I know where he is coming from, its left field. But Lounge Queen has taken a strong disliking toward me. He can't debate without cussing me out.

Seshmeister
08-18-2006, 10:03 PM
If you are going to do it I think Lounge Queen has a better sound to it.

It kind of rolls off the tongue better...:)

ELVIS
08-18-2006, 10:12 PM
A "Lounge Queen" rolls off your tongue better than what ??

Does the SM know about your escapades with "Lounge Queens" ??


;)

LoungeMachine
08-18-2006, 10:50 PM
This thread has taken a scary ass turn......


LMMFAO



:gulp:

LoungeMachine
08-18-2006, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by Seshmeister
Lounge Clitoris?

LOL!

Is that an insult or just because you don't get him or know where he's coming from?:D


Bet you a pint he's never seen one in real life.....


nor would know what to do with the thing if he did.

:D

blonddgirl777
08-19-2006, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by FORD
... When the fuck did the White Power fucks move in here?

Do you always resolve to childish "name calling" when people don't shear your opinion?

Booo... Hooo...! :cry:

BigBadBrian
08-19-2006, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by Angel
You know Ford, I was speaking to a fellow up here from California the other day regarding racism. (Yes, he's black)



Is that your token black friend you always speak of?

LoungeMachine
08-19-2006, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
Do you always resolve to childish "name calling" when people don't shear your opinion?




LMMFAO !!!!!


That's one hell of a Freudian slip right there......

shear your opinion


LMMFAO

Beware Busheep !!!

We're gonna shear your opnions :D :D :D

blonddgirl777
08-20-2006, 01:24 AM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
LMMFAO !!!!!


That's one hell of a Freudian slip right there......

shear your opinion


LMMFAO

Beware Busheep !!!

We're gonna shear your opnions :D :D :D


Hooooo!!!!!!!
This is sooooo funny... B.G. made a spelling mistake!
(What a sens of humor... we have a "Thesaurus" in the house) :rolleyes:

Go right ahead... "shear" my opinion... and L.Y.F.A.O... if it amuses you!

And B.T.W., talk about judging and generalizing... because someone is sick of what Muslims do here, it means they have to be a Bush's Repubican?

Hooooo.... Freud again... "Bush", "rePUBICan"...
How funny, it made my day! :o

blonddgirl777
08-20-2006, 02:01 AM
So is that it?

If you are against Muslim's massive immigration and lack of respect for your country's laws and regulations...
You automatically have to be a Christian and/or a Republican?

Talk about tunnel vision and shortness of mind!

And I am the one who's been accused of generalizing here...

LoungeMachine
08-20-2006, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
Hooooo!!!!!!!
This is sooooo funny... B.G. made a spelling mistake!
(What a sens of humor... we have a "Thesaurus" in the house) :rolleyes:

Go right ahead... "shear" my opinion... and L.Y.F.A.O... if it amuses you!

And B.T.W., talk about judging and generalizing... because someone is sick of what Muslims do here, it means they have to be a Bush's Repubican?

Hooooo.... Freud again... "Bush", "rePUBICan"...
How funny, it made my day! :o


:rolleyes:


Midol.

It works wonders.



It.
Was.
Funny.


Get over it/yourself :rolleyes:

blonddgirl777
08-20-2006, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
:rolleyes:


Midol.

It works wonders.




Really? (I guess YOU know)...

Thanks for the tip! ;)

blonddgirl777
08-20-2006, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine

It.
Was.
Funny....

Hey, as long as you got a good laugh... Good for you!


So accusing me of being a "Busheep" was one of your funny jokes too?

blonddgirl777
08-20-2006, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
... Get over it/yourself :rolleyes:

Ho... don't worry about me... it takes A LOT MORE than that... :o

LoungeMachine
08-20-2006, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
Hey, as long as you got a good laugh... Good for you!


So accusing me of being a "Busheep" was one of your funny jokes too?




Please quote exactly WHERE I accused you of being a "Busheep"


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


I'll be right here waiting


Jesus fucking Christ:rolleyes:

LoungeMachine
08-20-2006, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
Do you always resolve to childish "name calling" when people don't shear your opinion?

Booo... Hooo...! :cry:


Let me explain the humor in this slip to our thick Canadian friend.......



We are in a DLR / CVH site........

The common joke/language/slang in here is that those who foillow the Hagar-led VH are "sheep"



We are currently posting in the FRONTLINE forum, where certain blind followers of the pResident are referred to as Sheep.......


You made a typo using the term SHEAR, as in cutting off the wool of a sheep.

It was a funny slip.


Fucking Canadians.:rolleyes:

blonddgirl777
08-20-2006, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Please quote exactly WHERE I accused you of being a "Busheep"


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


I'll be right here waiting


Jesus fucking Christ:rolleyes:


Post#: 230... 5th. line.

I don't need glasses and I DO read "Busheep"...

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Yourself!

blonddgirl777
08-20-2006, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
... Fucking Canadians.:rolleyes:

Please, do not accuse ALL Canadians of not getting that "Sheep Pen" Army thing... I don't visit the frontline very often and truely... I am the one who never really got that one.

As you know very well, English is my second language (and B.T.W., I think I'm not being so bad at it...) :cool:

So, I did, make a spelling mistake "Shrear" instead of "Share" (or more of an entire word mistake) and sorry if it still happens to me after nearly 30 years of bilinguism...
And because I always want to improve, I accept and appreciate to be "corrected" on those types of mistakes on a daily basis... It's called "process of learning" and it can take a lifetime.

Although I did, translate very well "Busheep" as "Bush Follower" because in French too, a sheep is known as being led blindly etc...
And because I never was a Republican (eaven less a Bush one), in my 8 years stay in the states and now that I vote Liberal, I didn't appreciate your "Busheep" accusation...

That's all!

blonddgirl777
08-20-2006, 12:10 PM
:rolleyes:

LoungeMachine
08-20-2006, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
Post#: 230... 5th. line.

I don't need glasses and I DO read "Busheep"...

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Yourself!


Jeus Christ, no wonder you didnt just post the quote....

BECAUSE I WAS TALKING TO BUSHEEP....NOT ADDRESSING YOU.


Did I address you?

Did I say, hey dumbblonde, you're a Busheep?


Can you understand that I was laughing at your mistake, and then using it to call out Busheep?

eh? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

blonddgirl777
08-20-2006, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
... Can you understand that I was laughing at your mistake, and then using it to call out Busheep?

eh? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

O.K., O.K... CALM DOWN!!!! :rolleyes:

NOW I DO, UNDERSTAND! :o


Beleive me, I really don't know what to expect from anyone anymore, now that I've been called; "racist", "K.K.K. Bitch", "ignorant" and all sorts of shit that I'm not (on this board)...

blonddgirl777
08-20-2006, 12:32 PM
F.Y.I.:
Sarcasm, jokes of all kinds and "reading between the lines" are aspects that are really not that obvious to grasp on, when speaking a language you don't get to use all day long...

Angel
08-20-2006, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Fucking Canadians.:rolleyes:

Hey, Watch yourself! We're not all alike, you know.... ya clit! ;)

ELVIS
08-20-2006, 06:38 PM
You all say out and about just alike...

Angel
08-20-2006, 06:46 PM
Yeah, okay Elvis. Just like a New Yorker sounds like a Texan. :rolleyes:

Nickdfresh
08-20-2006, 07:34 PM
I'd like to hear the solution to the "Muslim" problem according to Braungirl777 and fracisters.

ULTRAMAN VH
08-20-2006, 07:48 PM
Um, no Nick we would rather hear your leftist solution. After all, the lefties want the power back but are not offering any solutions. I do respect your opinion, although I was rather surprised at your out of character behavior with Cat and others on this sight. You always seemed to be a cool cucumber. Whats up dude. And by the way, great avatar.

Nickdfresh
08-20-2006, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by ULTRAMAN VH
Um, no Nick we would rather hear your leftist solution. After all, the lefties want the power back but are not offering any solutions.

Why would I offer a solution to another country's (perceived) problems? That's what you Neo Cons believe, that you know better than everybody else.

What is the "problem" with American Muslims according to you? Any "problems" with them that need a "solution?"


I do respect your opinion, although I was rather surprised at your out of character behavior with Cat and others on this sight. You always seemed to be a cool cucumber. Whats up dude. And by the way, great avatar.

Oh, well now we're just bring up some out side shit that has nothing to do with is?

Yeah well, maybe I'll call you a "terrorist sympathizer" and "babykiller," (as he has in the past, even though I've never killed anyone, nor do I particularly like ANY terrorists) and see how you like it.

Cat's a big boy...oh fuck it! What are you his spokesperson now?