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Chong Li
03-29-2004, 11:02 PM
I remember seeing the EEAS tour and during Steves solo, he played Eruption and tore it up.

Does anyone else remember that?

TMR
03-30-2004, 12:53 AM
Yes, I remember......Not only did Vai outshine Ed on that song.....as a matter of fact on every song. Steve looked like he was playing with one hand on the VH tunes until the EEAS songs were performed....LOL

pardo
03-31-2004, 09:26 AM
Originally posted by TMR
Yes, I remember......Not only did Vai outshine Ed on that song.....as a matter of fact on every song. Steve looked like he was playing with one hand on the VH tunes until the EEAS songs were performed....LOL

I hope this is a joke. I've heard boots from this tour and I can barely even listen to it. Hot For Teacher, Unchained, Panama etc all sound stiff and the solos sound robotic. Not to mention the fact that there's keyboards on these tunes - big, sugarry, loud keyboards. On tunes like Unchained - terrible.

I've said it befor, I'll say it again. Steve Vai: million dollar hands, 10 cent head.

degŁello
03-31-2004, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by TMR
Yes, I remember......Not only did Vai outshine Ed on that song.....as a matter of fact on every song. Steve looked like he was playing with one hand on the VH tunes until the EEAS songs were performed....LOL

What are you talking about?

I like aspects of Vai's playing, and love the EEAS record, but he sounded like pure shit playing the VH classics. Ugh.

I can't even listen to any boots of that band playing VH. It's crap.

tjvhou812
04-01-2004, 01:55 AM
i agree steve is fucking good..... but he is far from king edward

thefive
04-01-2004, 02:03 AM
Why do you think Steve played those VH songs so bad?

I have some EEAS concert videos and I think the VH stuff sounded good. The guitar. I dunno I havent broken my eeas video collection out in a long time.

thefive

Cathedral
04-01-2004, 02:21 AM
I liked his approach to the VH classics, but nobody knows a song better than the person who writes it, that is just a given.

Vai wasn't terrible on them though...he just added a different flavor that i thoroughly enjoyed when i saw that Tour.

But lets talk about Edwad ripping Vai off in a little diddy called "I Can't Stop Loving You"...It sounds an awful lot like "The Deeper the Love" by Whitesnake....check it out and tell me the melody is not similar.

pardo
04-01-2004, 09:49 AM
To me, early Ed sounds like the life of the party who's drunk and all the chicks wanna fuck.

Steve sounds like the genious with the 1000 IQ, but can't hold a conversation.

I don't think Steves quirkisms fit in to straight ahead kick ass rock. Ed was able to do it and it always sounded cool and natural.

Cathedral
04-01-2004, 10:46 AM
Steve Vai to me is the everyone's guitarist...He's the U-Haul of Rockers in that he plays and has played with everyone.

Besides the EEAS Tour, He shined last in Whitesnake in my opinion. That was another Tour that made an impression on me.

David Van Via
04-19-2004, 07:49 AM
Steve may have been an amazing guitarist but Eddie might be THE GUITARIST. It is interesting to here Steve play Van Halen songs but he doesn't play the as well as Eddie.

Big Troubles
04-19-2004, 08:27 AM
I have a detroit boot of eeas with Vai and DLR, and Vai played very well, but there were definite keyboards added for rhythm. Edward is Edward. Vai is Vai. You can't compare the two in the same category.
I'd say Edward can be compared to Eric Johnson, Clapton and Young.
Vai is comparable to Malmsteen. Two totaly different animals altogether. Plus with Vai and the like it was always about speed. Edward and the like are about finess and technique.

GAR
04-21-2004, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by tjvhou812
i agree steve is fucking good..... but he is far from king edward

KING Edward~!!!

More like a Prince Valium than a "king".

Mr Grimsdale
04-21-2004, 03:44 PM
chortle

secrets
04-22-2004, 03:57 PM
I love both these guitarists. I've never heard Vai play VH tunes so couldn't comment. But his playing on EEAS is remarkable and not just the lead guitar, the rythm guitar also. His album Flexable also features stunning guitar playing and some nice songs. I have to say though, that after '86 Steve's tone was not as cool and he seemed to drench his guitar in effects ( Passion and Warfare?).

EEAS is my favourite performance by Vai, he doesn't play a bad note IMO and he was really pushing the boundries of what could be done on a guitar.

In '86 Vai was untouchable as far as rock guitar playing goes, same as Ed back in the late 70's and early 80's (not today though).

There was a great scene in the movie 'Crossroads' where Steve Vai played in a guitar duel against the hero who was battling to save his soul from the Devil. What would be cool would be the Steve Vai of '86 against the EVH of say '78. Now that would be some battle.

Seshmeister
04-22-2004, 08:23 PM
Damned if you do damned if you don't with some people.

Every Dave guitarist has had the same problem.

Loons The Great
05-29-2006, 11:46 AM
B.Young plays the bes' 'Ruption...yez yez...I ain't lyin'...

binnie
05-29-2006, 11:52 AM
Vai ain't Eddie.

Vai is technically brilliant, no doubting.

But what people forget is how good a rhythm player Ed is. That's what gave CVH the snap and power.

No-one else can play those songs like him, it's not all about ability in solo's.

It's like when people do Metallica covers, they never sound right because very few people as a good rhythm players as Hetfield.

Loons The Great
05-29-2006, 11:56 AM
John Lennon had that ol' rhythm, too.:D

Dave's Bitch
05-29-2006, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by binnie

It's like when people do Metallica covers, they never sound right because very few people as a good rhythm players as Hetfield.


hetfield kinda sucks ass on guitar imo

binnie
05-29-2006, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
hetfield kinda sucks ass on guitar imo

Really?

you love thrash and don't think Hetfield is God?

Hetfield and Mustaine are awesome players!

Kilkmaru
06-01-2006, 01:34 AM
Yea hetfield is fucking awesome as is mustaine

Redballjets88
06-01-2006, 01:38 AM
Originally posted by tjvhou812
i agree steve is fucking good..... but he is far from king edward

evh is a one trick pony im sorry to say, vai is way more technically talented, eddie is just more influential

sadaist
06-01-2006, 01:56 AM
For thrash, Mustaine is my favorite with Hetfield in 2nd. But comparing Vai to Eddie? No way. I can't compare anyone to Eddie. For me, he is above all others as far as technique, style, and overall fun attitude.

binnie
06-01-2006, 03:37 AM
Originally posted by Redballjets88
evh is a one trick pony im sorry to say, vai is way more technically talented, eddie is just more influential

There is more to playing than technique

Soul

Feel

Rhythm

Vai ain't too good on the first two. Great hands, not a lot of soul

Eddie is unique, and no-one plays with more energy than him when he was at his best

Dave's Bitch
06-01-2006, 06:36 AM
Originally posted by binnie


Hetfield and Mustaine are awesome players!


no sorry but you cant use Hetfield in the same sentence as Mustaine,unless that sentence is Mustaine owns Hetfield on guitar.

i've seen alot better rhythm players than hetfield.Mustaine plays lead and sings,thats impressive.Mustaine is also a better thrash singer

ashstralia
06-01-2006, 07:24 AM
hmmm...

steve will always be an underrated rhythm player.
like jimi, the histrionics tend to overshadow the fact
that the dude can FUCKING PLAY THE GUITAR.

the soul/feel argument holds no water with me either.

'for the love of god'
'tender surrender'
'viv woman'
'call it sleep'
and fuck yeah, 'damn good'.

seems to me a lot of the vai haterz have no idea
about guitar pluckin'.

thanx for teh bump, loons!

*edit* yep, i agree steve's tone generally sucks.

binnie
06-01-2006, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
no sorry but you cant use Hetfield in the same sentence as Mustaine,unless that sentence is Mustaine owns Hetfield on guitar.

i've seen alot better rhythm players than hetfield.Mustaine plays lead and sings,thats impressive.Mustaine is also a better thrash singer

Think we'll have to agree to disagree.

No doubt Mustaine is a better overall player, I was just talking about rhythm.

Redballjets88
06-01-2006, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by ashstralia
hmmm...

steve will always be an underrated rhythm player.
like jimi, the histrionics tend to overshadow the fact
that the dude can FUCKING PLAY THE GUITAR.

the soul/feel argument holds no water with me either.

'for the love of god'
'tender surrender'
'viv woman'
'call it sleep'
and fuck yeah, 'damn good'.

seems to me a lot of the vai haterz have no idea
about guitar pluckin'.

thanx for teh bump, loons!

*edit* yep, i agree steve's tone generally sucks.



right on the mark. and Vai also has the "Fun attitude" look at tour footage of him, and listen to Flex-able if you do you will realize this guy is funny as hell from some of those songs

sadaist
06-01-2006, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
no sorry but you cant use Hetfield in the same sentence as Mustaine,unless that sentence is Mustaine owns Hetfield on guitar.

i've seen alot better rhythm players than hetfield.Mustaine plays lead and sings,thats impressive.Mustaine is also a better thrash singer



Mustaine is the man. But the thing about James was his attitude, presence, and "fatness" of some of his riffs. LEPER MESSIAH!!

Met Dave Ellefson a few months back. I make custom poker chips and traded him some for some picks. He gave me a couple Megadeth picks and a couple from his new band F5. Most cool dude.

binnie
06-01-2006, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by sadaist
Mustaine is the man. But the thing about James was his attitude, presence, and "fatness" of some of his riffs. LEPER MESSIAH!!

Met Dave Ellefson a few months back. I make custom poker chips and traded him some for some picks. He gave me a couple Megadeth picks and a couple from his new band F5. Most cool dude.

Cool!

binnie
06-01-2006, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by ashstralia
hmmm...

steve will always be an underrated rhythm player.
like jimi, the histrionics tend to overshadow the fact
that the dude can FUCKING PLAY THE GUITAR.

the soul/feel argument holds no water with me either.

'for the love of god'
'tender surrender'
'viv woman'
'call it sleep'
and fuck yeah, 'damn good'.

seems to me a lot of the vai haterz have no idea
about guitar pluckin'.

thanx for teh bump, loons!

*edit* yep, i agree steve's tone generally sucks.


Ok, for me Vai is an amazing player, I don't think anyone could deny that.

However, you just can't inject what he does into songs that easily, like DLR says, Vai is hard work.

He is so unconvential that he has to do his own instrumental pieces, which are cool.

But all the live stuff I've heard of him doing VH, just ain't anything like Eddie.

But once again he is a great player.

Seshmeister
06-01-2006, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by sadaist
I make custom poker chips

Totally off topic but's just occured to me.

What's to stop you making a bunch of counterfeit blackjack chips and then using them in a big Vegas casino?

Someone must have thought of this idea before...

WARF
06-01-2006, 01:15 PM
Blasphemy!!!

DavidLeeNatra
06-02-2006, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by WARF
Blasphemy!!!

I got a boot (vid) where he does a solo and plays a very small part of the original eruption and seems to make some fun out of it...like "hey, ed, no big 'ting to play your shit"...doesn't look that good...